Real Lawyer Reacts: Is Lori Vallow Daybell Asking For Special Treatment? + One Juror Speaks Out
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- Опубліковано 26 лют 2024
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Wow Lori looked awfully happy for her court appearance as she walked in!
She's a nut case. Her brain is completely disconnected from reality.
I think she still believes all of Chad's false teachings. If that is the case, she is happy because she believes what they did was what God wanted them to do . . . she is thinking about her "heavenly reward" . . . and thinking how everyone else is stupid because they don't know what she and Chad know.
I know, she's crazy
She always looks like a kid a Christmas. 🙄
Yes! Lori loves herself very very much. BLEH! I hope she enjoys her tiny room until the day she leaves this earth.
Her makeup, the way she smiles, and behaves is wild. She seems to enjoy her notoriety. 👎🏾
Lori’s facial expressions the whole time she was in the video looked like a teenager on her first date. At the end when she and the lawyer were talking, she kept checking to be sure the camera was still on her.
She is psycho. I can’t believe anyone fell for her act.
She is sickening the way she shows herself off.
Why do you care what she does or looks like. Has nothing to do with anything. Drama
@@marie3539 it shows she is crazy.
Narcissistic personality traits
I kinda want more books about juror's perspectives so we have knowledge of what jury duty is like because what is scary about jury duty is not fully knowing
He expressed in other interviews that it was really hard to keep up. They make the jury leave a LOT so there’s a lot they’re not told. They get online after the trials over and fill in gaps of missing information
Good point here. Knowing examples of the process would help when that summons comes in the mail out of thr blue.
It sounds to me like writing this book will be cathartic and healing for Juror 18. Good for him.
Thank you Peter for bringing us the juror interview on the Lori Vallow Trial. I respect Juror 18 for waiting to publish his book after Chad Daybell’s Trial and for donating the proceeds from his books sales to a worthy cause! 👍🏻
I don’t think there’s anything wrong with a juror writing a book. He didn’t choose to be on the jury, very different than the Becky Hill situation. He went through a duty he was forced into, was minimally compensated for all those weeks out of work, and has a very unique view of what happened. I say good for him for writing a book. He isn’t a servant of the public voted in like the clerk of court in Murdaugh, he’s a man who did his duty, lost a lot financially doing so, and can’t Forget the horrors he saw. And that he’s donating it all… he’s not even profiting.
Very very different than Fani writing that book before…..well, before this s show with a capitol S
But def similar. Your point is mad valid tho 👍
Crime photos do embed in your consciousness. I saw a number of them when I was 28. Forty years on I can still see them in my mind. I still get that feeling of shock, sadness and fear when I think of them. Being a juror is an onerous role and they deserve many accolades for taking on that responsibility .
Absolutely agree with you & the jurors on this case saw some really gruesome photos. Thanks for sharing & I do hope the photos you saw weren’t as bad as this one & doing your civic duty is really appreciated 🥰
I understand exactly what you mean. I was a juror on a criminal case, the crime was caught on camera - we watched a young man say his last words, take his last breaths with his family in the galley - including his mom and children. I still think about the victim and his family almost every day.
Him writing this book might be his way of purging all the feelings he has bottled up over what he saw and heard during that trial. It might be a very cathartic healing process for him since it doesn't seem profit is his motive behind writing it. I don't see how any one of them jurors walks away without being negatively affected by the evidence they had to see and hear. So good on him for finding a way to purge all that trauma and put the proceeds to good use.
Thank you, Peter. Seems to me that Juror 18 is writing this book to help process his emotions.
I agree. Prior to this interview I saw a very personal in depth interview he did on a podcast channel I watch and he’s not in this for the money. That is very clear
She was flirting with the camera! What a piece of work, you would think she would hide her face in shame!
With the camera, and all the men who might look at her behind it
She was performing for all the males in that room- real or virtual
Psychopaths don't feel shame.
When he said he went to Chad Daybell’s home and he ran into Kay and Larry, I believe he is talking about doing that right after Lori’s sentencing. The actual trial took place in downtown Boise, and the sentencing took place in Rexburg, where Chad’s house is. Boise and Rexburg are around a 300 miles apart, and about a 4 and 1/2 hour drive.
I remember that this juror did make 4 and a half hour drive over to Rexburg to watch Lori be sentenced in person. That would also make sense as to why he ran into Kay and Larry at the Daybell’s house. Kay and Larry were also in Rexburg to see Lori be sentenced.
Major respect for this juror! Excellent interview by the reporter; he came across sincere, VERY likeable, kind, honest and caring. Good for him re: the book and proceeds!
I had seen the Lori hearing before, and all I will say is she makes me ill. Thanks for sharing this, Peter. 🖖
She’s sickening. As if she’s in another pageant.
I wonder if the book is the juror’s way of expressing himself as he couldn’t deliberate. Must be brutal to be an alternate after going through all that.
I love that he keeps a picture of the kids for inspiration. I think that’s so human ❤
Oh my she looks so proud of whats happening. The way she walked in.
Like she is flirting with her lawyer and the camera and she's loving it.
She is so off her rocker . Has a screw loose. These are all terms my mo would use for people with mental illness. Idk if it’s an outdated terminology but it means the same as “ She is a crazy friggen lunatic “
TBH, l am surprised she waved attendance, she just loves smiling for the camera and her hair/make-up prep.
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*On a serious note, l don't have a problem with this gentleman writing a book, he experienced the horrors and tragedies of this case in a way we never will. He is well spoken and in all likelihood wrote an interesting perspective.
Maybe she wants to conserve her makeup/hair supplies for the actual trial.
Very well respected juror #18 Way 2 go. Excellent coping mechanism as thru donating proceeds to charity
So she did this very thing in her first trial, smiled for everyone, flirted with her attorney, asked to not be in hearings and then the next thing you knew, she wasn’t competent.. so we wait for the she isn’t competent…
Okay! Ill give it to this guy on donating the proceeds and how conscious he is of others time! He seemed to have his heart in it for the victims. Kudos to him and not Becky Hill 👏 🙌 😂😂
Most inmates never turn down court dates regardless of what happens. It's a day out of whatever confinement your in and a days worth of new different meals.
Lori wouldn't allow the insanity defense, and Idaho doesn't allow it. She also wouldn't let her lawyers put the responsibility on her husband or her brother.
I can't fathom being a person on the jury. Something so terrible like this would affect you the rest of your life.
I wouldn't want to be in the room when Tylee and J.Js remains were shown and I have to give them credit it's a dirty job and I'm glad someone is willing to put their mental health in jeopardy and theÿ aren't thanked like they should be , So Thank You
What a great guy! I can’t imagine having to endure seeing what those jurors did…and probably not going a day for the rest of his life without being haunted by it. How amazing for him to not only take on all of that but then to spend the time to write a book and donate all of the proceeds to a cause that will help to bring some good from such horrific and evil acts. I thank goodness there are people in the world such as juror number 18.. ❤
It has to take a mental toll on the people involved in these cases.
What’s wrong with writing a book? It will probably be quite cathartic for him.
Ask ms becky! It can easily undo a verdict by revealing something the author would not be aware of might be problematic. It might be a small technicality, yet it might result in having to redo a new trial. Lawyers will jump on things like this and dissect every sentence, every word he puts down on paper….and says on camera!
Jurors should keep quiet ffs! They have no idea when are they stepping into it!
This guy didn't even get on the jury he was an alternate when the trial was over he didn't even get picked to deliberate. so I don't think there's anything wrong with him writing a book or being involved with checking sites out and things because he didn't make the decision even though he would have said guilty on all charges. A little bit different than somebody who has deliberated and then comes out and gives interviews and tells you what goes on within the jury room. Anyway that's my opinion
Reminds of jurors from Lietecia Stauch case when the jury asked the judge if LS behavior is counted as evidence and should they pay attention to it.
What was the answer to that?
I can't wait to read this jurors book. So many have commented, wrote and distributed info about this trial, why not those who were a part of it?
Hidden True Crime did an interview with Tom very shortly after the trial and I believe in that interview he said he was thinking of writing a book
She loves herself in the limelight, so it’s surprising she’s giving up an opportunity to perform for the cameras.
I wish he would talk about Lori's demeanor during the trial and seeing the autopsy pictures of JJ and Tylee.
He gave a full interview to Lauren Matthias.
Yes on “Hidden True Crime” podcast
He literally did
Idaho does not allow for an insanity defense. And LV would not allow her attorneys to use anything near a mental health defense.
But Idaho does offer the firing squad! Too bad DP was off the table for her. Here’s hoping for Chad’s trial in April!
these stories are sometimes cathartic, they see things, hear things,they will carry the rest of their lives, painful, and it is in many cases how to make sense of and heal their own hearts. My ex.I was married to 21 years.was a firefighter paramedic, who saw and experienced things in his over twenty-five yr. career, that I always heard about,it is how they get rid of it so they can move on, sometimes a book is just that.
I agree. Just because we don't know a lot about a jurists' post reaction to a trial doesn't mean that this guy has some sketchy purpose. Lawyers say they want to speak to jurists after the trials to thank them or find out what their thought processes were, but rarely, l believe, care about the effect these trials have on the jurist.
I was slightly offended that this lawyer was giving the side eye to this man's decision to write about this case. That was my take on it anyway.
I think that to some degree, it’s harder to let it go because he was chosen as an alternate and did not get to go to deliberations. It would be harder for me personally not to be able to finish the process.
I saw this juror in another interview and he said all proceeds of the book were going to a charity.
Poor soul, this story lurks in a dark place. I think a juror has as much a right as anyone involved in a case to write a book. He was deeply impacted and this is how he's coping.
Compare this nice man to court clerk Becky. I don't think there's anything wrong with the way he's handling it ❤.
I felt the defence was hampered by Lori herself. Not allowing defence to go after Chad, tanked the defence. Also, seemed like establishing reason for appeal was the main defence.
Local here: The trial for Lori Vallow was held in Ada County (Boise area) which has a population of over 500,000 so I personally don’t think that’s per se a “small town”. They summoned 1,200 jurors to be sure they had enough impartial people. Please also note that Idaho does not allow an insanity defense. The trial for Chad Daybell is now 100% on track for an April 1 start date; no more delays. Final note for those interested: Idaho will be executing Thomas Creech on February 28 at 10 AM. I haven’t heard if it will be lethal injection or firing squad, but believe it will be lethal injection (State said a few months back they obtained the chemicals needed).
Creech was supposed to have lethal injection. After several tries it didn't work they stopped the execution.
Seeing the picture of JJ and Tylee above his computer 💔💔
I respect this juror. He's great. This case affected us so much I can't imagine what it must be like for the jurors. The only people who make me cringe in this case are Lori and Chad...
This isn’t the first of her jurors to speak-I believe Nate Eaton from East Idaho News interviewed two jurors shortly after the trial, and the defense tried to use part of one of the juror’s statements as grounds for an appeal.
Also, my understanding is that insanity is not a defense in Idaho, so that wasn’t an option for her. However, it was revealed at her sentencing that she was diagnosed with a delusional disorder.
I heard Idaho doesn’t allow insanity for a defense. They will send them to a hospital until said stable and go shears with trial. She’s definitely one that I think is delusional even though money, sex, and power played a big part. She has never been stable. Her past is one red flag. I don’t see how her friends and family ever thought she wasn’t crazy. 5 marriages?! I have an ex sister in law that I still love and in touch with 10 years after her 10 year marriage to my brother. She’s now on marriage #7. But we all know she’s bipolar - including her. Lori instead was treated like she was perfect. I find it hard to believe her mask didn’t slip regularly. Then she meets Chad who also was fine with murder of children. It’s insane.
I don't mind the volume differences since Peter pauses and discusses everything that is said. I don't need to hear the court as long as i can hear Peter 😊
Writing is therapeutic...
I don’t blame her for not wanting to attend. hearings dealing with paperwork, logistics etc. however it is an opportunity to get out of the prison for a little while. 💁🏻♀️
Lori seemed to go out of her way to flirt with her Arizona male defence attorney while ignoring the lady to her left. This woman has no shame. I also thought that said attorney had his arm on the back of Lori’s chair almost as though he was in protective mode. Weird.
I saw that too. The flirt was so extra!
Grateful for break in Rust coverage. It seems like there is nothing else available. THANK YOU
The audio from Ms. Daybell's hearing is extremely low. Thanks for all that you do!
She needs to sit there for each and every hearing. Doesn't deserve ANY breaks!!
I can totally understand a juror wanting to share their experiences. The first time I got to be a deliberating juror, I wanted to tell everyone about it. It changes you to take all of that info in and sometimes you just need to get it out...and my case was a 70,000 civil claim. God only knows how I'd feel after Daybell.
Nice one Peter thanks for covering
Thanks Peter please continue to follow Lori V
This juror has done a couple of other interviews. One with “Hidden True Crime “and one with “East Idaho News” with Nate Eaton… both much more detailed. I found them very interesting, I have/had no idea how things work. Very humble guy
Best ending to a video. I’ve seen here on UA-cam in a long time :-) love it. Thanks for another great video Peter.
I hate that he’s writing a book. But I love this guy. God bless all the jurors!
Please tell me what is wrong with writing a book; I don’t understand that position, especially around someone that I think would be honest and respectful while doing it.
@@CarolB-rv1jo To be honest, I am not exactly sure why the book bothers me. When Peter said at the end that all money will be donated, I felt much better.
@@user-ck4vz4jo6e. Yes, Peter didn’t seem to like the idea at first, either until the end. I’m sure some people would sensationalize things, but I have nothing but respect for Juror 18. Thank you for the response!
There is a juror from the first Menéndez trial that wrote a book. Almost 30 yrs later she is still advocating for them, has shown that she honestly believed them, cares about them and wanted to advocate for them. Sometimes is an honest gesture, now I see it different from court personnel, but the jury should be able to talk the way it works for them. Is a traumatic experience for them too seeing all the evidence and listening to the stories, if they honestly feel writing a book is good for them and do it without hurting the case or someone else, I say go ahead.
For the rewatch crew. Stick with the very low sound in the court hearing. Peter gives us the lowdown on what is happening and the audio on the juror interview is fine and very interesting. Thanks Peter.
i knew nothing about the chandler holderson case, i heard the opening statement and was like wtf he so did this, the prosecutor ripped his life apart
She just doesn't want to get up early to get ready. I have heard they have to get up hours before and sit and wait for 10 or 15 min. Hearing.
Thanks for this, as always...I love your pauses to insert your thoughts or explain the legal movement.
Literally the healthiest and happiest I’ve seen of Lori.
I don’t think I’d ever come forward. Risking someone mistaking my words for grounds for mistrial or overturn
@The lawyer you know. It has been stated a few times in news reports that Idaho is one of four states with no criminal insanity defence. Can you expand on that?
I can’t even imagine having to see and hear so many horrific details.
Thanks Peter! Goodnight everyone!
Peter in Idaho there is no “Insanity” plea. If you’re incompetent, then you go to a mental institution for treatment until you are competent to stand trial. Lori was in the mental hospital for 8-9 months, I can’t remember exactly, but that “Insanity plea” ISN’T applicable in Idaho. Apparently all the states are different. I only learnt this from watch Nate from EIN.
Nate also did I think at least 2 interviews of jurors almost immediately after the trial.
Thanks Peter
Love from Australia ❤
I watched a very long interview of this juror on Hidden True Crime. He is genuine and was deeply affected by this trial and plans on using the book proceeds to create a foundation.
I heard Vallow wouldn't allow an insanity defense. Can't remember where I heard it. I watched everything. Probably heard it on Crime Talk.
I don’t think Idaho has them. Either that or it’s so hard to qualify for one they’re virtually impossible.
@@chelseacdWell I think what was said was that she did not want her mental illness to be part of her defense.
13:01 @lawyeryouknow I found it interesting that when he talks about the defense team, one shoulder shrugs at the end of his comments. That micro expression indicates he isn’t confident in that response.
I think he felt bad saying that the defense attorneys didn’t do much for her case, not that he’s unsure of his comment.
Perhaps. It would have been something I would have explored a bit more had I been interviewing him. I recommend rewatching and just look at his facial expressions and body language. A little later in the interview, when he’s discussing Lori and Chad’s relationship, you will see his face scrunch up, like he smelled something foul. It’s very subtle. It indicates that the thought of those two disgusts him (I think we all share that feeling). I would have explored that a bit more, too.
The smartest juror of all.
Oops not hearing them in the courtroom. 😢
Like who cares if he is writing a damn book?! He didn’t even deliberate so kinda can’t even judge
This juror did a really great interview on Hidden True Crime. He stated there that he cannot publish his book until after Chad Daybell’s trial.
Yay, i caught a live!
Excellent video (as always) I so much appreciate you helping me to understand what’s going on. You are class all the way!
Just like you enjoy juror interviews Peter, we like books from jurors telling their perspective. At least he is waiting until after the trial of Chad to put out the book. There is a much longer interview of this juror on other channels. I could really feel this guy struggled thru the trial. Thanks for your thoughts.
I caught a live, it’s a good day 😊
I think he should’ve remained anonymous. He may have agreed to donate the proceeds for these two books he mentioned, but is he laying a foundation to create a following so he can write & sell other books in the future where he could make a profit? I don’t think you should gain fame/publicity from serving on the jury. That could be a slippery slope and interfere with jury integrity. 🤷🏻♀️🤷🏻♀️
Idaho doesn't allow an insanity defense.
I come from a country where we don't have juries. But it seems to me that it will be inevitable that the jury forms opinions by how the defendant acts and not only of what the evidence shows. Not saying our system is any better God knows our system has its faults.
I hope Melanie Polowski has to sit in the hot seat in the Arizona trial. I believe she knew beforehand what would happen to Charles. She also never reported the children missing, and she lived next door! She has small children, and to me that is scary.
She looks like she's at a kids birthday party. Acting so happy. She doesn't take responsibility for her actions
You say at the end, "Lori Vallow update, in other cases there's gonna be delays, it seems like we might have some delays in Daybells case..." So my question is, what "other cases" are you talking about that might have delays?
Bryan Kohberger/Idaho4
Boone? Or as stated above, Kohberger? Baldwin? Daybell was delaying but I personally don't think they will get another continuance.
I’m happy for him to speak out. I’m sure it’s probably helping him heal if that’s even possible. I’ll definitely read his book. I’m so interested in his thoughts from his “view.”
Hi Peter, Is it possible to lower you mic volume and then boost the court? Love your channel and content.
He seems like he has a good head on his shoulders. Good for him
Arizona here
There isn't an Insanity defense in that state.
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Rewatching: missed the live. No notification 🤷♀️
Same here. 😢
I don't see an issue with a juror writing a book, especially as he's donating the proceeds, as I see that far differently than a court clerk writing a book. Particularly a court clerk that is still working.
Your volume used to be good now I can’t hear it not sure what to do but thanks for the hard work you do for us
I agree that it is good that he is waiting till after Chad’s trial to publish the book to make sure that no potential juror could ever be compromised based on that publication. I really think that this particular juror really does care about the case, and was impacted by it. I don’t know if I missed it but I hope one day they are able to prosecute Chad for his wife’s murder! I’m so glad that they’re going up to her for her ex-husband’s murder, because that was an absolute travesty.
Wow look at that smile😮
A court clerk writing a book is completely different than a juror. That would would be a really tough trial.
Awesome love to read the book.
When you said at 19:34 that this guy seemed pretty impacted i can say this. I live in Rexburg I saw some of the initial reports saying the kids were missing I live close to where Lori lived and it very much shock me and many others I can't imagine seeing their bodies and also not feeling the same way he does.
I live in AZ and have been following Lori’s case since before COVID when the kids went missing. Looking forward to Chad Daybell’s trial that starts soon.
Amen Pete! Writing a book??? Just NO.
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