2023 APA Black Tier Final - 9-Ball Shootout

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  • Опубліковано 29 кві 2023
  • Final match of the 2023 APA 9-Ball Shootout Black Tier (Skill Levels 8-9) held in conjunction with the APA Poolplayer Championships in Las Vegas.
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  • @johnnyp6202
    @johnnyp6202 10 місяців тому +4

    It's lludicrous that 8s in 9 ball who are below 600 fargo are made to compete with Fargos over 700.

  • @dai_shann7958
    @dai_shann7958 Рік тому +5

    Anyone surprised a 746 fargo wins an amateur event?

    • @AdamMarr
      @AdamMarr Рік тому +2

      Yeah, its odd. APA has always had a very loose def of what a "pro" is. Would make sense for them to move to a fargo cap maybe. That said his robustness is not very high, but he has a record of beating established pros on occasion in some tourneys, so... 🤷‍♂

    • @supermanalexk
      @supermanalexk Рік тому +2

      APA's response is always "we don't use fargo ratings."

    • @dai_shann7958
      @dai_shann7958 Рік тому +3

      @@supermanalexk love that response. Meanwhile, this is a single's event and not a 'men's singles' event and this Gary dude is rated higher than all but like 5 women in the entire world.

  • @JimEngle-cd9fk
    @JimEngle-cd9fk 17 днів тому

    APA should have big payouts for amateurs . Our local APA league charges $10 per person per night

  • @stdavis22
    @stdavis22 Рік тому +8

    ive never seen pockets that wide on a diamond

    • @cristiannumber14
      @cristiannumber14 Рік тому +4

      They had them Made that way to meet APA pocket standards , our league operator told us about the pockets

    • @alextruax1038
      @alextruax1038 Рік тому +2

      They’re league cut 4 3/4

    • @vicluevano1222
      @vicluevano1222 Рік тому +2

      I noticed that too

    • @vicluevano1222
      @vicluevano1222 Рік тому +1

      @@cristiannumber14 I think it's dumb that's it's gotta be in league's favor they should learn to play with tighter pockets that's why diamonds are generally way more challenging than the valley's

    • @davidrodriguez7627
      @davidrodriguez7627 Рік тому +2

      It's amateur pool... amateur, not professional, amateur...

  • @jasonparker6138
    @jasonparker6138 Рік тому +2

    They've been saying they were gonna use Diamonds since 2006. Better late than never!

  • @shortydancer
    @shortydancer 10 місяців тому +1

    Man Gary Abood got old! I met him about 13 years ago. At APA nationals at the Riviera. I played a lot of poker back then and was busting him and other players. Later found out what a good pool player he was. He looked way younger.
    Wait a minute… *looks in the mirror*. Noooooooooo!

  • @justinmontemayor310
    @justinmontemayor310 Рік тому +5

    What’s the definition of an amateur? Gary has the Fargo rating of American Mosconi players lol

    • @dai_shann7958
      @dai_shann7958 Рік тому +3

      APA doesn't care about pro level shooters vs amateur shooters. Money is money

    • @shannondetro441
      @shannondetro441 Рік тому +2

      exactly. the apa verifies nothing.

  • @yoursvc
    @yoursvc Рік тому +1

    It's good to see Les Grossman finding a hobby outside of film production.

  • @jerry7172
    @jerry7172 Рік тому +6

    Why does the APA disqualify a member from the singles with a 585 Fargo rate because she holds a "pro card"? However a 757 can play in the tournament? This person also owns a bar that allows APA league to play out of her establishment.

    • @jasonparker6138
      @jasonparker6138 Рік тому +2

      It's a technicality and it's not very fair. Women have a professional organization that determines whether you're a pro, and men don't. So guys who play at low to mid-pro level are still technically amateurs by APA standards.

    • @jerry7172
      @jerry7172 Рік тому +2

      I agree with you. However to take her money and then cancel her from singles competition is questionable.... But the APA has " technicalities"

    • @jasonparker6138
      @jasonparker6138 Рік тому +1

      @@jerry7172 They should at least give her money back.

    • @jerry7172
      @jerry7172 Рік тому +1

      LOL APA is all about the money. I don't see that happening

    • @jaypisme2343
      @jaypisme2343 10 місяців тому

      @@jerry7172is that Monica Webb? Just wondering she has a pool room down the road.

  • @hcahca5169
    @hcahca5169 10 місяців тому

    Congratulations Gary

  • @AAAskeet
    @AAAskeet Рік тому +3

    Jason 639/Gary 746 fargos

    • @AAAskeet
      @AAAskeet Рік тому

      Should be 3-2 in Gary's favor

    • @cakins1986
      @cakins1986 Рік тому

      @@AAAskeet Should be to 2 to 1 or slightly higher actually. According to Mike Page, if you're exactly 100 Fargo points better than your opponent, you should expect to win twice as many games.

    • @AAAskeet
      @AAAskeet Рік тому +2

      @@cakins1986 I literally put it in the fargo race calculator on the app

    • @cakins1986
      @cakins1986 Рік тому +1

      @@AAAskeet I see that now, and you're right. It looks the 2:1 comes into play when someone is 109-131 Fargo points above their opponent. So this matchup (in the 63-108 point difference range) is just shy of it. I guess Mike was generalizing when he said 100 points=twice as many wins, as it's actually 109+.

  • @geoffwade8902
    @geoffwade8902 9 місяців тому

    What size table is that? Is that Bar Box?

  • @Boombatz11
    @Boombatz11 2 місяці тому

    18:13 thanks commentary man, is that how that works? 🤦🏾‍♂️

  • @georgepotter353
    @georgepotter353 Рік тому +10

    People that complain about using Diamond over Valley tables are the same people that would complain about the car rental company giving you a mercedes to drive vs a Chevy Caprice for the same price.

    • @toddrobertson1398
      @toddrobertson1398 Рік тому +3

      Especially since they aren’t traditional diamonds. They had the pockets cut to be more forgiving for the apa lol

    • @wliva76
      @wliva76 Рік тому

      Noboday would complain about that. Bad players plat on valley tables. If you shoot out of place with a valley. Then your not good at all

    • @Loganringleben
      @Loganringleben 10 місяців тому

      @@wliva76I play out of a county that has 0 diamond tables so am I bad?

    • @wliva76
      @wliva76 10 місяців тому

      @@Loganringleben yeah you probably are

    • @Loganringleben
      @Loganringleben 10 місяців тому

      @@wliva76 yeah no I’m only rated as a 7 in 8 ball I’m not that good

  • @AAAskeet
    @AAAskeet Рік тому

    36:30 he twisted his wrist inward to miss that shot."Chile dipper"

  • @keithscarlett2911
    @keithscarlett2911 Місяць тому

    What can keep a personal from playing in APA

  • @shannondetro441
    @shannondetro441 Рік тому +4

    Gary abood plays pool for a living. he is no amateur. lol, the apa verifies nothing

  • @joerobertson7887
    @joerobertson7887 Рік тому +3

    Pockets the size of manholes.

  • @hcahca5169
    @hcahca5169 10 місяців тому

    Gary was always a very good player, I know for a fact.

    • @gregmccarver-nz5dv
      @gregmccarver-nz5dv 6 місяців тому

      Same here. I saw him play a few times at Fast Freddy's in longview back in the day.

  • @hcahca5169
    @hcahca5169 10 місяців тому

    How old is Gary Abood?

  • @gregmccarver-nz5dv
    @gregmccarver-nz5dv 6 місяців тому

    Seen Gary get trampled by Joey Barns once or twice.

  • @jaydwyer3771
    @jaydwyer3771 10 місяців тому

    Which is better a gambler or a tournament player

  • @JKinLVN
    @JKinLVN 4 місяці тому

    Jason Aboo vs Ewa Laurence. I think Ewa wins this. Back in the day, Ewa for sure.

  • @holmesboyz9199
    @holmesboyz9199 7 місяців тому

    WWJD…,,,,what would Jason Do😅

  • @michaelconners2805
    @michaelconners2805 Рік тому

    How good is hubby Mitchel's game Eva ?

  • @mortsolomon4603
    @mortsolomon4603 6 місяців тому

    If these two are nines, I’m a 12

  • @toddrobertson1398
    @toddrobertson1398 Рік тому +2

    Pro pool needs dead money in tournaments to much to limit who can play in a tournament.

  • @TheAntMan101
    @TheAntMan101 Рік тому +2

    Ppl saying he’s a pro but he’s not doing anything I haven’t done or can’t do

  • @wdiddy1
    @wdiddy1 Рік тому +1

    niether of these guys are pros, don't think I saw a 1 break and run. Just cause a guy is better than you doesn't make him a pro.

    • @shannondetro441
      @shannondetro441 Рік тому +1

      Gary knows how to miss. he has been running racks over a decade

    • @loum5254
      @loum5254 10 місяців тому

      @@shannondetro441 more like 3-4 decades.

    • @scottisitoro3953
      @scottisitoro3953 10 місяців тому

      Hey goofball, the second you accept prize money, winner here gets 10K, YOU'RE PROFESSIONAL...WAKE UP, drink some black coffee and get a grip on the real world.

  • @nickjones1619
    @nickjones1619 5 місяців тому

    Apa sucks

  • @alpaul
    @alpaul 10 місяців тому

    APA\: promoting trash pool for 40+ years.