Go back 2-4 frames to determine if it should hit or not. Remember, dlift has at least 20ms of delay from his pc and another 55ms to the riot servers. Thats a whole 2 frames of this vid at 30fps or 4 frames at 60fps.
@@SpiceCh Then nobody would buy them. The point is that they are not as strong for dueling (as kraken for example) but give you agency earlier in the game since you can push and move faster.
@@agastya2803 and for that reason, they should be less efficient or more expensive than other items. Shiv gets you: Burst damage for trades Freedom to roam for both adc and support Agency on trading/dueling while the enemy is still trying to last-hit Uninteractive poke damage through minion waves Team fight damage Meanwhile kraken slayer's only advantage is single-target dps, but it comes at both a higher initial investment as well as worse wave clear and team fight poke. If you buy waveclear, your item ought to be weaker than the alternative because what you're losing in gold efficiency is gained back in less time spent last-hitting.
Shiv-Kraken start is like dropping Tilted Towers and getting a green pump and minis from floor loot. Kraken-IE-Zeal item is like landing in Greasy Grove and then rotating into Tilted once you've farmed mats and have 100 shield.
Shiv + Kraken is the normal jinx build now and has been since IE got buffed. Pretty sure people just go runaans for the novelty of getting triple rockets
IDGAF what any1 says I will never not buy runnas when playing jinx, i just love the clearing and as an emerald player myself there's no other way i can get to 10 cs/min without it. runnas until I die
What would be things you take 11:08 into account for scenarios that fleet would be > than lethal tempo? Also idk anything about competitive, but I think the shiv kraken option is much better for solo Q. Being stronger earlier in soloq when so many games are decided by the 1st/2nd dragon fight seems really important.
Ah, yes. The optimal build on ADCs. Rush the DPS options which give both waveclear and single-target DPS. Surely, our role isn't regressing to Season 8.11...
@@stann4730 Zeri and Jinx want to push waves for safety, like when it was Sivir + Jinx perma-farming against each other for IE Teamfights. Ironically, the game has regressed to that point again, because the power balance isn't 50% BOT, 50% Team. It is now 30% JNG/SUP, 20% MID and 10% ADC/TOP.
There needs to be a disclaimer of when to go the build with shiv too many times in low elo am I seeing people fall way behind and go shiv which gives an early spike but doesn't matter because it doesn't scale then when it comes time to teamfight jinx is down dps compared go kraken ie pushing them even farther behind
That first Baron looks like something happening in my games. No way you stop the baron there. Literally attack for 1-2sek more Virgo smites you get it and die. Now you enemy’s get baron and you still lose the fight. Things like that trigger me so hard I can‘t😅
Doublelift unironically saying you should delay LDR until you have boots + 3 other completed items really explains why adcs have been crying and whining about being unable to deal damage to tanks stacking armor. It's almost as if adc players are allergic to buying pen lol Really, if you've got reasons to be worried about a tank and you don't have a top laner buying black cleaver or playing Garen or J4, going LDR third or even second can absolutely be a worthwhile purchase.
I really don't understand the shiv rush. Testing lvl 9 jinx with shiv vs kraken. Shiv is 270-280 dps standing still auto'ing. Kraken is 400. Now i get those numbers are accurate due to movement in fights. But still, you're losing so much dmg.
Breh that Mummy stun at 6:30 SHOULD NOT have hit, magnets over here LMAO
It is what it is Riot moment 🤡
Go back 2-4 frames to determine if it should hit or not. Remember, dlift has at least 20ms of delay from his pc and another 55ms to the riot servers. Thats a whole 2 frames of this vid at 30fps or 4 frames at 60fps.
My friend when he dies to an amumu : someone kill that toilet paper wrapped lonely mummy 😂
Not better than naut hook
2:09 what a great play by the enemy team lol
it felt illegal that it worked really well too! very well played indeed
Always runnan on jinx , not because it's logical but because it's just too fun to play with
Facts
Does anyone know the reasoning to why DL and Guma like taking Fleet Footwork at around 8:50?
dude doublelift jinx is always a treat! I dont know why other pros cant seem to play it like him atm
As he misclicks 3 or 4 times into the minion wave and gets autod from it
when you get shiv and a noonquiver and zerkers all of a sudden every wave is pushed and it feelsgoodman
Doublelift: Looks like a Baron angle to me
Narrator: It wasn't
The PTSD on Viktor got DL going ghost immediately 🤣
NGL i smashed that like button out of fear for my life!!!
They already nerfing statik shiv rush
Because it's too strong. I personally like the move of making wave clear items more expensive/less efficient than other items.
@@SpiceCh Then nobody would buy them. The point is that they are not as strong for dueling (as kraken for example) but give you agency earlier in the game since you can push and move faster.
We have a week or so left to abuse it
@@agastya2803 and for that reason, they should be less efficient or more expensive than other items.
Shiv gets you:
Burst damage for trades
Freedom to roam for both adc and support
Agency on trading/dueling while the enemy is still trying to last-hit
Uninteractive poke damage through minion waves
Team fight damage
Meanwhile kraken slayer's only advantage is single-target dps, but it comes at both a higher initial investment as well as worse wave clear and team fight poke.
If you buy waveclear, your item ought to be weaker than the alternative because what you're losing in gold efficiency is gained back in less time spent last-hitting.
Can someone explain what he said at the beginning in fortnite terms?
no.
Double noon build is like a chug jug and the normal build is like a medkit
@@jacksoneustice Epic Win #1 Victory Royale, thanks.
Shiv-Kraken start is like dropping Tilted Towers and getting a green pump and minis from floor loot. Kraken-IE-Zeal item is like landing in Greasy Grove and then rotating into Tilted once you've farmed mats and have 100 shield.
Is this still usable after stattik cost increase?
Taking Tempo and buying Rapidfire is my favorite jinx build. If you use Q and stack tempo you can literally auto anyone who is on your screen lmao
Kaisa build similar to this is lethal tempo, statikk, kraken, shadowflame, lich bane + situatuonal item. Try this and you wont regret it
why u dont play vayne anymore?
Shiv + Kraken is the normal jinx build now and has been since IE got buffed. Pretty sure people just go runaans for the novelty of getting triple rockets
IDGAF what any1 says I will never not buy runnas when playing jinx, i just love the clearing and as an emerald player myself there's no other way i can get to 10 cs/min without it. runnas until I die
Respect
What would be things you take 11:08 into account for scenarios that fleet would be > than lethal tempo?
Also idk anything about competitive, but I think the shiv kraken option is much better for solo Q. Being stronger earlier in soloq when so many games are decided by the 1st/2nd dragon fight seems really important.
i like how he paint the builds
Ah, yes. The optimal build on ADCs. Rush the DPS options which give both waveclear and single-target DPS. Surely, our role isn't regressing to Season 8.11...
There's a reason why Shiv is getting a price increase.
The waveclear really isn’t the point, the item is just way too cheap for the stats it gives
Are you good in the head
@@stann4730 Zeri and Jinx want to push waves for safety, like when it was Sivir + Jinx perma-farming against each other for IE Teamfights.
Ironically, the game has regressed to that point again, because the power balance isn't 50% BOT, 50% Team. It is now 30% JNG/SUP, 20% MID and 10% ADC/TOP.
i like the noonquiver better
Maw in this vid: Im fine :')
Every game I see my adc build shiv first, I know we are going to lose… BUILD DAMAGE
There needs to be a disclaimer of when to go the build with shiv too many times in low elo am I seeing people fall way behind and go shiv which gives an early spike but doesn't matter because it doesn't scale then when it comes time to teamfight jinx is down dps compared go kraken ie pushing them even farther behind
I swear on game one those fights would have been giga easy if he went ldr 2nd like he would have blended the jax voli so hard
nice
That first Baron looks like something happening in my games. No way you stop the baron there. Literally attack for 1-2sek more Virgo smites you get it and die. Now you enemy’s get baron and you still lose the fight. Things like that trigger me so hard I can‘t😅
damn
swear to god runaan's is so shit. Just feels like a gold sink where you don't get stronger through any part of building it
Doublelift unironically saying you should delay LDR until you have boots + 3 other completed items really explains why adcs have been crying and whining about being unable to deal damage to tanks stacking armor.
It's almost as if adc players are allergic to buying pen lol
Really, if you've got reasons to be worried about a tank and you don't have a top laner buying black cleaver or playing Garen or J4, going LDR third or even second can absolutely be a worthwhile purchase.
Armor pen is dmg amplifier, buying ldr second is like buying ie first - super int
U belong to emerald
@@realfake2258 buying IE before LDR when facing armor is moronic, and yet people do it all the time as if Randuin's doesn't exist.
@@606EP4NK u belong in elementary school when you can't even write properly and contribute nothing but insults to a conversation, child.
Try Jinx with collector and runaans... dont finish berserk, just buy boots, rush collector and runaans... trust me... shits crazy
I really don't understand the shiv rush. Testing lvl 9 jinx with shiv vs kraken. Shiv is 270-280 dps standing still auto'ing. Kraken is 400. Now i get those numbers are accurate due to movement in fights. But still, you're losing so much dmg.
Price differential.
first
Ne seri bre
nice