AP vs AD KAI'SA, Which is better?

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  • Опубліковано 21 гру 2024

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  • @andyhuynh2625
    @andyhuynh2625 9 місяців тому +180

    The reason why I like the Exodia build is because there's a lot of games where Kaisa can't auto attack because there's Corki rockets, ASol covering the whole map with his E and R, Gangplank barrels blocking you off, etc. So much shit prevents you from auto attacking.
    You can actually do damage and 1v9 the game, while ADC Kaisa can't do that.

    • @DarkJak90000
      @DarkJak90000 9 місяців тому +6

      this^^ legit only time i would go AD kaisa is if we’re 4 ap

    • @DarkJak90000
      @DarkJak90000 9 місяців тому +17

      @@Necrostrikethis is not true, your passive deals 50+% max health dmg as magic dmg, the build actually shreds tanks aswell esp if u have cc on ur team

    • @Brian-wp9er
      @Brian-wp9er 9 місяців тому +3

      Except it won’t matter how hard you’re carrying because if you lose, your team will blame you for not being an “actual” adc

    • @ArmaKiri
      @ArmaKiri 9 місяців тому +4

      @@Brian-wp9ermute them and play

    • @Justxrice
      @Justxrice 9 місяців тому

      Classic aram 4fun ap kaisai

  • @Eidxjxndnd
    @Eidxjxndnd 9 місяців тому +23

    LMAO when the 3rd or 4th item comes and it goes from depression and anger to him literally woohooing 😂😂😂😭 i cant hahaha

  • @gregorydiaz4259
    @gregorydiaz4259 9 місяців тому +20

    As soon as you practice and get used to the AP poke build, it pays off really hard. As you can see, Doublelift changed his opinion throughout the game as he was learning himself the playstyle, what he can and what he can't do. He became exodia.

    • @Greenllamabean
      @Greenllamabean 9 місяців тому +1

      its a shit builld that shoulld stay in aram

    • @gregorydiaz4259
      @gregorydiaz4259 9 місяців тому +1

      @@Greenllamabean nop it isn't, I play it everyday and is really good.

    • @rebiianas
      @rebiianas 9 місяців тому

      your brain is shiit and it should stay in aram and bronze@@Greenllamabean

    • @cuteandsingle
      @cuteandsingle 9 місяців тому

      He doesn't like it because you're useless until like 4 items. Obv its good afterwards

    • @gregorydiaz4259
      @gregorydiaz4259 9 місяців тому

      @@cuteandsingle it’s good as soon as you hit 2 items+amp 😅

  • @zyxxhig
    @zyxxhig 9 місяців тому +8

    Give the editor a raise for the DL head wiffs

  • @stfucookieman957
    @stfucookieman957 9 місяців тому +54

    holy shit double lift actually playing the game!?

  • @maxwarp
    @maxwarp 9 місяців тому +9

    6:36 lol

  • @pier-lucfortin8065
    @pier-lucfortin8065 6 місяців тому

    ''Mom i want Doublelift in our team!''
    ''Honey, we already have a D0ubl3l1ft at home.''
    The D0ublel1ft at home : 5:51

  • @Pitchoo973
    @Pitchoo973 9 місяців тому +1

    what is that pulse from kaisa ? it's her skin ?

    • @limittestresearchinstituti5801
      @limittestresearchinstituti5801 9 місяців тому

      Its showing where he plasma passive was jsut applied that you can R to. looks sooo weird on this skin

    • @kylon1235
      @kylon1235 8 місяців тому +1

      Cryptbloom heal

  • @legendarybanana37
    @legendarybanana37 9 місяців тому +2

    Best adc gameplay I think I’ve seen

  • @Flossylearner1
    @Flossylearner1 8 місяців тому

    Here’s a different way of looking at it. What would you rather vs? Me personally ap kaisa because if she doesn’t poke with w consistently until your low then a it’s just not as scary and in solo q your teammates are fighting and dying constantly so having time to poke is almost never a thing. Especially when the players are really good on the pick. I’m only about diamond in na so around diamond ad kaisa was more scary.

  • @kwangyda6098
    @kwangyda6098 9 місяців тому +6

    not quite the exodia build, part of it is that u delay putting a second point in r as long as possible since you basically have as much range on r as u will ever need lvl 1

    • @limittestresearchinstituti5801
      @limittestresearchinstituti5801 9 місяців тому +2

      well thats smart but that has nothing to do with the build right

    • @marekcolapro
      @marekcolapro 9 місяців тому +9

      Also he should take futures market for quicker evolve and timewarp tonic for quicker W max

    • @limittestresearchinstituti5801
      @limittestresearchinstituti5801 9 місяців тому

      U dont max W cuz it doesnt change ad scaling or range, it only lowers CD but since you get upgrade early your CD is already 2 sec so u jsut max q then e@@marekcolapro

    • @teoyeowheng6747
      @teoyeowheng6747 9 місяців тому

      why should you delay putting a second point in r? wont it give you more range instead?

    • @kwangyda6098
      @kwangyda6098 9 місяців тому +2

      @@teoyeowheng6747 so extra points in R only give you extra range to jump in, but since you are playing around your w range, 1 point ult (after the buffs) is enough to get you in when you need to. Which means u can max other abilities after by a couple levels

  • @FinnRoozendaal
    @FinnRoozendaal 9 місяців тому

    Good concept even better games!

  • @NootsaraTomKomOfficial
    @NootsaraTomKomOfficial 7 місяців тому

    The Janna lock-in cracks me up...! LMAO HAHAHAH he's already level 2.

  • @paulkim6696
    @paulkim6696 9 місяців тому +9

    Really depends on the playstyle of the individual. People who like to go head first, weave in autos and play around with the invisibiltiy of E, while having constant DPS; the AP build will definitely feel more boring to play. However, if you don't mind the more pokey playstyle of the AP and you're able to hit them, you're rewarded with more burst, poke, and even tank shred. All playstyle dependant, but I do think the AP build is more consistent in terms of damage as along as you play it right.

    • @Genemesis
      @Genemesis 9 місяців тому +2

      Not just playstyle. It's also depends on your team comp and your enemy's. I like to rock the AP build when I have a Yasuo Yone top/mid AD combo or when the enemy has 0-1 real tank.

    • @paulkim6696
      @paulkim6696 9 місяців тому +1

      @@Genemesis True that, but from what I've seen you can force the AP build and it'll be more consistent then trying to play the typical AD build. Long range poke that bursts squishes and shreds tanks really has no counterplay unless the enemy team is super coordinated.

  • @Jacksonforeversprout
    @Jacksonforeversprout 9 місяців тому +4

    I think greaves + nashor + shadowflame is better than just pure AP. Having some attack speed and on-hit is good insurance in times when you can't hit W

  • @DoggyP00
    @DoggyP00 9 місяців тому

    Exodia was mostly for competitive in the first place. Yeah, in soloq when people are just running in like donkey's, a more brawly build would probably be better.

  • @Anorav
    @Anorav 9 місяців тому +2

    This guy is good he should go pro.

  • @spiritasteroid
    @spiritasteroid 9 місяців тому

    i made my own runes specialized for balancing burst damage and adaptation force and i go half ap half ad and thx to the runes all stats of kaisa attack speed and move speed and ad and ap increased dramatically now instead of getting 236 ad and 400 ap and 2 attackspeed and 395 move speed and no scaling i get 300 ad 512 ap 2.3 attack speed once start engaging goes to 2.5 and movement speed 512 + all dmg scales against champs heavy tank, but to go half ap half ad you need to trade w dmg for mechanics and skill

    • @mete2519
      @mete2519 8 місяців тому +1

      what runes?

  • @aeri8864
    @aeri8864 9 місяців тому

    can we talk about the Janna lock in????

  • @Iconic_Icon_
    @Iconic_Icon_ 9 місяців тому +2

    Whats the answer tho

    • @X5XAvenger
      @X5XAvenger 9 місяців тому

      Ap build is better rn

  • @sanadude1
    @sanadude1 9 місяців тому

    this vid is almost as long as the playoff one lmao

  • @epps8686
    @epps8686 9 місяців тому

    Any build should be considered situational. Even if it's a 90/10 split of the time.

  • @queenbowsette9541
    @queenbowsette9541 9 місяців тому +3

    Im in a similar spot, i prefer on-hit Kai'sa way more than her AP variant. I feel like AP takes too long to come online where as with on hit i can get on top of someone blow them up and move on to the next guy alot faster. It also ends games faster too.

    • @omegaminoseer4539
      @omegaminoseer4539 9 місяців тому

      I think that is the question you have to ask yourself. If AP Kai'Sa gets time to scale, the game actually become torture, since a player actually gets a three second interval to play the game before getting blown up. If you *can't* scale, then ADC is sometimes better, since you can have an earlier impact. It means little if you're outranged, though.

    • @sasukefaan
      @sasukefaan 9 місяців тому +2

      Yeah look how much more decisive his AD game was, if he was AP he woudl've just been getting dove and dying. Way better for Soloq on average. The AP game looked so loseable even tho he was getting so much value.

    • @gadgas6905
      @gadgas6905 9 місяців тому

      Getting dove by who? In rhe first game there were Darius and Wukong with senna R wasnt it harder in thw first game​@@sasukefaan

  • @Vanhaomena
    @Vanhaomena 9 місяців тому

    Before muramana completion and rabadons: pure uselessness
    After muramana and rabadons: EXODIA

  • @JonSnow-gt7gf
    @JonSnow-gt7gf 7 місяців тому

    I want to use hybrid kaisa :)

  • @ardabruh1340
    @ardabruh1340 9 місяців тому

    The reason kaisa players go Eclipse is because it gives you a fighting chance. Yes it does less damage late game but how many times do you get to go to that stage in the game? It feels good late game regardless so we're just mitigating our loss of brain cells early game with it lol

  • @KSG148
    @KSG148 9 місяців тому

    Should’ve shown dmg on that first game lol

  • @pongsapaksubpokatorn6138
    @pongsapaksubpokatorn6138 9 місяців тому

    I don't know why but this is so funny.

  • @deathpanda0605
    @deathpanda0605 9 місяців тому +1

    Did not know you could W during Kai's R

  • @samuelgass6261
    @samuelgass6261 9 місяців тому +2

    Godamn to be reduced to a meme lmaoooo 😂

  • @paulbiner5437
    @paulbiner5437 9 місяців тому

    what is doublelift upset about here? 2:35

    • @lazerfruit2121
      @lazerfruit2121 9 місяців тому

      he almost killed himself i think

    • @Ethereal69
      @Ethereal69 9 місяців тому

      missed r w combo

  • @quocanhhbui8271
    @quocanhhbui8271 9 місяців тому +80

    build ad or ap doesnt matter. Play like an adc

    • @amshash
      @amshash 9 місяців тому +2

      Gigachad

    • @lordofhatred4746
      @lordofhatred4746 9 місяців тому +36

      Ap kai'sa doesn't really play like an adc. Powerful regardless

    • @quocanhhbui8271
      @quocanhhbui8271 9 місяців тому

      @@lordofhatred4746 we're not talking about ssame kaisa

    • @gadgas6905
      @gadgas6905 9 місяців тому

      @@quocanhhbui8271 huh??

    • @RedBikelane
      @RedBikelane 9 місяців тому

      Dentge

  • @Timeforspas12
    @Timeforspas12 9 місяців тому

    Atk speed AP kai'sa feels so much better to play than this build. This "exodia" build It feels like a high elo only build. One mistake and you're out.

  • @christophermauro-barias7451
    @christophermauro-barias7451 9 місяців тому

    lol and ls knew ppl would go biscuits ong rofl

  • @chrisbarber6261
    @chrisbarber6261 9 місяців тому

    That’s my dad

  • @franklee538
    @franklee538 9 місяців тому

    AP is for if you like playing like a mage

    • @X5XAvenger
      @X5XAvenger 9 місяців тому

      No this build is just the best rn on Kaisa

  • @MicMacMadeIt
    @MicMacMadeIt 9 місяців тому

    That mao engage lvl 2 was so good…

  • @carterpickens4883
    @carterpickens4883 9 місяців тому

    Lifted

  • @Maddog_Mickey_Knoxx
    @Maddog_Mickey_Knoxx 9 місяців тому

    As is better and takes more skill imo ( to play well )

  • @gadgas6905
    @gadgas6905 9 місяців тому

    "This buils is dogshit" bro 5 mins earlier just 1v2 from 5 screen away

  • @Thegriff19
    @Thegriff19 9 місяців тому +2

    I like the part in the video where he tells us which is better... or showing us damage dealt at the end of the game..

    • @aGuyWatchingVids
      @aGuyWatchingVids 9 місяців тому

      AD 11/3/5 31minutes 30,003
      AP 14/2/9 34 minutes 47,216
      Weirdly the AD game shown took place before the AP

  • @X5XAvenger
    @X5XAvenger 9 місяців тому +1

    Nobody believed me with this build, as soon as LS makes a video everyone doing it..

    • @Eidxjxndnd
      @Eidxjxndnd 9 місяців тому +2

      Because ur silver 2 nobody

    • @Eidxjxndnd
      @Eidxjxndnd 9 місяців тому +2

      A fart in the wind

    • @Eidxjxndnd
      @Eidxjxndnd 9 місяців тому +1

      A loser with no following

    • @Eidxjxndnd
      @Eidxjxndnd 9 місяців тому +2

      Get a job bro

    • @soraaftp
      @soraaftp 9 місяців тому

      who r u?

  • @mathiasjacobsen8433
    @mathiasjacobsen8433 9 місяців тому

    I feel like you get the best of both worlds if you go Nashor's at some point in the build.

  • @Lazy_Chocolate_Main
    @Lazy_Chocolate_Main 9 місяців тому +1

    Try both, AP and AD :3

  • @aircatcher6891
    @aircatcher6891 9 місяців тому

    Manamune > ludens > cryptbloom play for poke gg

  • @tsbmongolia7266
    @tsbmongolia7266 9 місяців тому

    Yeah 100% AD kaisa hard one

  • @derekha170
    @derekha170 9 місяців тому +14

    I actually HATE the kill sound effect. Please god stop doing that 🙏

  • @SN-xv1tp
    @SN-xv1tp 7 місяців тому

    Play either or, just don’t play mages bot 💯💯

  • @kwezcoma
    @kwezcoma 9 місяців тому +1

    basically kaisa is broken

  • @Finnboy7thst
    @Finnboy7thst 9 місяців тому +2

    Phreak blocked me on twitter xD

    • @tykeboy16
      @tykeboy16 9 місяців тому +1

      Did you tell him he has no mana?

  • @salihbesir8418
    @salihbesir8418 9 місяців тому

    oh cmon oh cmon oh cmon
    get out of here get out of here get out of here
    im missing these im missing these im missing these

  • @CoozaFPS
    @CoozaFPS 9 місяців тому

    ap is better there is no counter

  • @user-BoRshc12v
    @user-BoRshc12v 8 місяців тому

    Комментарий.

  • @pikadj5511
    @pikadj5511 9 місяців тому

    ah the spam bots are here

  • @amrobahja8539
    @amrobahja8539 9 місяців тому

    Adc is shit this season
    Its just the most useless lane that ever existed ngl

  • @rjs9228
    @rjs9228 9 місяців тому

    Play how you like but exodia kaisa is more of TSM in 2016 where you don’t do anything proactive you just wait for someone to fuck up and then disappear them

  • @tidalwaffles
    @tidalwaffles 9 місяців тому

    Depends on your team lil bro

  • @bubu3814
    @bubu3814 9 місяців тому +5

    Can you not put out that beep sound after getting every kills, sounds very annoying.

  • @ardent3300
    @ardent3300 9 місяців тому

    Why are you not maxing W?

    • @limittestresearchinstituti5801
      @limittestresearchinstituti5801 9 місяців тому +1

      U dont max W cuz it doesnt change AD scaling or range, it only lowers cooldown but since you get early W upgrade anyway your cooldown is like 1 second so doesnt matter jsut better to max E 2nd

  • @applesonaplatewithpeas27
    @applesonaplatewithpeas27 9 місяців тому

    any raw meat eaters?

    • @qyurryusss
      @qyurryusss 9 місяців тому

      I ate your father's raw meat last night

  • @rylanbrown9097
    @rylanbrown9097 9 місяців тому

    first

  • @martinlarocque900
    @martinlarocque900 9 місяців тому

    league started to die when streamers started to hide the minimap.. way lets fun to watch