Temp Twister and Thermowell - FermZilla Accessories
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- Опубліковано 5 жов 2024
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Looking for a thermowell or glycol coil for your FermZilla, Fermentasaurus, or KegMenter. This will do the job and enable you to accurately monitor and control temperature of most fermenters and bright beer tanks.
This is a very helpful video. After watching it, I successfully installed your thermowell onto the plastic lid of my fermenter (which was made by a different manufacturer). I didn't have that fancy drill bit so I used a 1/2-inch spade bit.
I have to say that I'm stunned that you drilled into the lid while holding it in your hand. That's insane. So is drilling into solid metal without wearing safety glasses. You must not have lawyers in Australia.
Nice work on these products, Kee. Would also love to "see it in action", I think it would add a lot to the demo.
Thanks for that Josh. We will definitely do this soon. We are waiting for a few more new products to get finished and then we will do a video in conjunction with the fermenter so you can see it in action.
these "keg wars" may be creating a rift in the aussie online brewing community, but the innovation of plastic pressure fermenters over the last couple of years has been crazy.
I love your products! They make my life easier here in North America.
Cheers! Thanks for that lovely comment.
Very nice Kee! Glad to see the cooler is not proprietary and can be used in a multitude of vessels. How about a jacket for the fermzilla? Are there plans for one? Or is the “raincoat” style cover all you will recommend? Thanks for continuing to come up with great new products! Cheers! (And Bob’s your uncle!! Lol) 👍🍻
Hey Brian - Yes the jackets can be seen here:
www.kegland.com.au/jacket-for-27l-fermzilla.html
The 55L jacket is just a bit delayed and should be here in about 6 weeks then released in America in not too much longer.
When adding temp twister and thermowell, can we still do pressure fermentation?
Another really useful and informative video :)
You always say to put suggestions in the comments so I thought I'd actually see if you would read this one 😉 I have two twisters that I use in conjunction with 30L all rounders and a icemaster G20.1, I decant my brews into 19L corny kegs and use a Ferminator I got from eBay to cool down the kegs. The only problem is the dispensing, unless I bought the plug and pour system for the ferminator (which costs a fortune) I have to open the system and dispense my beer this of course is really not very efficient. After trying to come up with alternative ideas I thought about the temp twister, would it be possible to create a smaller twister and a adapted lid that would fit on the corny keg? I could then put a neoprene cover over the keg and cool it using the G20.1, all I would need after that is a nukatap 😁 I don't currently have the room for a kegorator, it would also be a big investment I'd have to get past the wife! What do you and the people here think about this as a idea? I suspect going off the prices of Kegland equipment that it would be a affordable option for homebrewers. If this is not a practical solution then I'd love to know why you think that.
Looking forward to your reply.
Everything looks perfect but I have some doubts before drilling the top cover.
What type of joints, connections and connectors are needed to maintain isobaric capacity and how much pressure does it allow?
Are high-strength teflon joints recommended? TY
is the vessel still pressure rated if you add the temp twister and thermowell?
I would also like to know
I asked kegland support if it would hold under 25psi, and they said yes, if following the tutorial.
Thank you. Very helpful. Thermowell installed in my fermzilla. Now lets see if its gastight. 😁
Hi ! Thanks for the quality content ! Question : does those add-on eliminates the pressure tight aspect of the FermZilla ?
Not at all. Both of these options are suitable to over 3Bar.
Not at all. The unit will still hold pressure. The duotight fittings can withstand more than 150psi. So it really comes down to the pressure holding capacity of the fermenter itself. The fittings seal up really easily.
So you can’t use the temp twister and the thermowell together? Would be nice to see these lids come pre drilled from the factory, nice products 👍
We have been considering doing this so I would not be surprised if this is something we offer in the future.
Did you get clarification on whether you can fit Temp Twister and Thermowell together?
I'd be keen to see how you might setup the Temp Twister to work with your ICEMASTER G40.1 to control fermentation temperature.
We have a new model of ICEMASTER G40 that will be differently setup for fermentation control. So we will do a video on this soon. We also have a smaller G20 model that might be more suitable for domestic use too.
an O ring on the outer mating surface of a through bulkhead fitting is not the best way to seal this. Maybe you might consider a two neoprene washers. one top and one underneath as I have done. Seems to work a treat. I really like Fermzilla it is an excellent learning tool for me before I move to something more substantial. I love your work. Keep it up :) Cheers.
Thanks for that Robbie. Really appreciate it.
the one under isnt really doing anything as the threads on the bottom nut allow for leakage. you can teflon tape the threads, but this is a poor solution as sealing on the flat exterior mating surfaces is the only reliable way of doing it. the one washer on the outside is the main improvement as that little oring looks a bit too small imo too, the nice flat washer would give me much more peace of mind. appreciate the idea
Any chance of getting an updated version to this with the tri-lid and temp twister? I see on the forums a lot of people having issue with the bend and whether or not the nut is in the bottom or top, etc.
How to install a "Temp Twister" and a thermowell in a hop bong lid?
It's possible. We will have to make a video showing how to do this.
Have you thought about installing the temp twister inside the lid of a corny keg? I ferment my meads in corny kegs and think
it would be cool to daisy chain a few coils through my last outlet on the glycol chiller
We do not really recommend fermenting inside a corny keg as the corny kegs are not really designed for this application. It's best to choose a purpose built fermenter.
I'm having trouble getting this Thermowell accessory to seal tightly. Looking at your video at the 1:45 you can see the indents that your drill bit is pointing to. I had to remove those indents just to get the screw to touch the fitting let alone tighten it down. The screw (at least the one I received) was too large to fit down in either one of those smaller recesses.
Great product!!
I have an extra temp twister and was thinking about using it in a portable type of draft system...would it be safe to run beer through one of these? Cheers
Yes, absolutely. It's a food grade stainless coil so you can have beer run inside of it if you want.
@@KegLand much appreciated! Now I need to test if the coil length is enough to cool down the beer :)
@@lapintabrewing8801 let us know how you go. I would be interested in the results.
Nice. Do we know if these can be used together and when they will be available in the US?
Great at piece of equipment.
Is it possible to use a 1 bbl kegmenter with the Thermowell?
Where can I get it in México
Thanks
This map here shows the various distributors:
www.kegland.com.awww.kegland.com.au/distributor
Yes you can definitely use this with 1bbl kegmenter.
I need to install a temp twister in the 2 inch tri clover lid but not finding any information or instructions on how to. Apparently you need to bend the pipes 20deg. Could you please share a link where I can read up on it? Thanks for the awesome products!
The temp twister coil will come into the lid at a 20degree angle. No need to bend it as it will fit fine. You only need to bend the coil if you dont like the idea of it sitting straight up and down.
Any plans on getting both of these products to Canada (orders from distributors)? I love the FermZilla line, recently got the 55L version and it's such an innovative product. I would get a couple of all rounders for longer conditioning and a 27L version, but I can't find these accessories to connect the fermenters to my glycol chiller. Only option is to order either from the US or China, which makes for really expensive parts with shipping and duty taxes. Thanks!
Local distributors should be able to bring some in from Kegland China.
Hi, just did this modification on a corny keg lid and the kegmenter lid. Do I need to leave the parts disassembled and exposed to air to passivate the holes or is it ok to just wash the WD40, sanitize with star San and assemble? Right now I just assembled after washing/sanitizing and put CO2 to test for leaks with 20psi
Pretty keen on the thermowell.... but when is stock arriving guys? Been checking your website and keep seeing the 'due to arrive' date being pushed back again and again. Will it ever arrive?
Sorry about the long wait on this one. They should be in stock at the end of next week.
@@KegLand Great, hoping so!
@@KegLand US availability?
Should the in fo to bottom or top first?
Nice jacket, what is it?, sorry to go off topic! lol
Hi Kee. o you fill the thermowell with liquid or leave it dry? Great vids, cheers.
As the probe is completely surrounded by the liquid with only a small air gap not much is to be gained by filling the thermowell with liquid. The probe will be slightly less responsive but temperature changes in something like a fermenter are generally very gradual and slow anyway. For this reason it's best just to leave the well dry.
Does kegland sell the duotight part separately? I've cracked mine and the regular duotight 8mm does not allow the thermowell to pass through
www.kegland.com.au/products/duotight-8mm-5-16-female-x-bsp-male-thread-bulkhead-with-seated-o-ring-includes-locking-nut-suitable-for-60cm-thermowells
so wait, you can use a 4 inch tri clamp fitting on the top of the Fermzilla??
Sorry that's a bit confusing.The 4inch tri-clover clamp will not fit the FermZilla. The 4inch tri-clover lid will fit only things like the Kegmenter like this:
www.kegland.com.au/58l-kegmenter-304-stainless-uni-tank-pressurisable-fermenter.html
@@KegLand oh duh. Makes sense.
Hi Kee. Can one fit both the probe and the coil togeter? Or will the probe sit up against the coil?
I am sorry I dont fully understand the question? The probe needs to go down a separate thermowell hole so it's airtight and holds pressure.
@@KegLand thanks for the reply. What I mean is, will the probe be touching the cooling coil inside the fermenter once both are interested.
Hello, is it recommended to use silicone grease inside the termowell over the temperature probe?
You wouldn't need to but I guess you could.
Hi Kee, I've tried installing the temptwister a few times now and it keeps leaking from the duotight connection to the coil. The duotight doesn't seem to be making a proper seal. It is not leaking from the nut.
Any suggestions on how to make a proper seal? I've tried with new bulkheads and the issue persists
Thanks!
Is it possible that the o-ring in the duotight fitting is damaged? You should be able to remove the o-ring and inspect this. If the o-ring is in good condition it should seal.
@@KegLandthanks for the reply! I was finally able to get a good seal. I used blue monster plumbers tape around the threads & keg lube on the O ring. Thats
seemed to do the trick
Can we run water through it rather than glycol?
You sure can but you would not be able to cold crash.
Is it possible to add the thermal well to the fermZilla and still have it capable of fermenting under pressure?
TheBMurph43 should be no problem
Yes it is totally doable.
Can I replace the original plastic lid for this 4 inches stainless steel cap in my All Rounder 30L??
The 4inch Tri-clover Lids are different and not compatible.
@@KegLand is there any substitute in stainless stell for the original AllRounder 30L lid? Then I could do custom holes and attachments, for exemple, a dry hopping that is bigger than a bottle neck..
@@lpirola that is very coincidental. We are in the process of releasing a new FermZilla lid that has a 2inch tri-clover opening at the top. So you can use this for dry hopping. We also have a new try hopping device too that is also about to be released.
So I would probably hold your horses on this one and just wait a little bit as all this stuff will come out with the new FermZilla Gen 3
Can i use a temp twister for a 150L fermenter? I want to cold crush, and i have a glycol chiller at -2C to do this. Can this be done?
150L might be pushing it. It would also depend on other factors like ambient temps and potential for heat ingress and the amount of insulation used.
Will this fit in the FermZilla - 30L - All Rounder?
Yep it will. No worries at all.
The thermowell and coil look awesome, the drilling stainless with a step drill made me cringe.
No way. What's wrong with that. Do it all the time.
Just use lots of pressure and go slow. Make sure the material doesn't heat up and you can drill heaps of stainless with one bit.
Do we just use a pipe cutter to trim the coil for the 27L fermzilla? What is the best way to put the score marks on after trimming (pipe cutter?)
If the twister is installed can the thermowell also fit?
Yes absolutely.
How does this work with the hop bong lid? It's angled more, does the thermowell still fit properly?
Tight but doable
@@KegLand just how I like em