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Low Cost Raid Cards..... They Suck?
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- Опубліковано 17 тра 2020
- Low-cost raid cards are all over the internet but many buy them for the wrong reasons
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I would think these would be handy for those running a server with an integrated RAID chipset that is no longer supported in say Windows Server 2022. Adding one of these via PCIe 8x could potentially extend the life of your server while running the latest and greatest server OS.
I'm still trying to get this pci card for the sake of reusing the leftover hard drives in our home to be connected to our old i7 870 pc.
Thanks for the feedback, I plan to use the HDD's connected to this card mainly storage.
I used one of these for an old XP system to get 100MB read speeds for faster boots than the internal IDE drives do. Also flash the bios to an Non Raid bios for better compatibility. XP boots in under 10 seconds with updates and all
You read my mind XD I was just looking up some raid cards to bypass the crappy one on the motherboard that won't let me overclock!
I find that those cards fail in the most interesting ways. One that failed started out fine. I built a RAID 0 array and things were fine until the card stopped being able to write to more than one drive at a time. In that situation the drives in the array would disappear until the next reboot where they would be back again until I started to write to the array again. The disks were fine but the controller just started freaking out. Another controller started out fine but then I had to reboot my server and the computer reported "Non-system disk or disk error" - as if it wanted to boot from a drive on that controller. I moved the drives to another controller and the system booted up fine. These controllers start out fine but then something happens and they go flaky for some reason.
Common reasons are overheating of the controller. Apparently cheaper manufacturing causes defects and speeds are also all over the place. USB 3.0 controllers are also similar, heavy use kills them prematurely I found out.
Im planning on doing something in the direction of a budget nas but i only have 1 1x and 1 16x generation 1 pci-e slots. Most of the stuff i might want to use is 1x 3rd generarion.
1x 3rd generation is close to the theoretical bandwith of a 16x gen 1 slot
But if I plug a 1x 3rd gen card in a 16x 1st gen slot its gonna run at 1x 1st gen speed.
Thats annoying
Sorry for bad english and sorry for ranting
People dont buy it for speed , they buy it because either their motherboards don't have sata or either they want extra hdds
The card extends life of my PIII 440BX - supports >32GB SATA SSD/HDD. But first the card needs bios to be re-flashed into basic SATA BIOS!
They are also good for DVD drives
yes, plug 4 dvd drives with 4 discs and you can watch your movies at 4x speed
I used one of these on a old pc that has a dead raid controller.
Real (used) server-class SAS RAID controller with two internal SAS ports ~20€
2 Fan-out 1SAS-->4SATA cables ~25€
2x 5" to 8x 2" hotswap tray for disks (IB-2281SAS-12G) ~100€
For 150€ you can get 8x2.5" SSD RAID base! Real RAID.. not some motherboard soft-raid ..
Just add drives as you need.
Real hardware RAID controllers can do online expansion or even RAID level conversion.
Better yet if you get one with battery-backed write cache ..
I use an lsi megaraid 5905 on a server board pc with e3 1220 v6 as a nas with 4 sata disks all running at 6gb, its a pci 2.0 x4 but its ok, it allows me to connect up to 10 tb disks but i only got 4tb ones in raid 5
Used raid cards are amazing. Got a megastorage raid card a few months back. Running a raid 6, 8 drive - 2 parity 100TB of space of usable space. Took 17 hours for full initialization. The speeds are pretty good for me. I am thinking I might have done something wrong as I am capped at 500MB/s transfer but I am happy with those speeds. I am only running gigabit speeds in the home so I will never ever get close to the max speeds the raid setup is capable of doing.
I used to get one of these cheap cards every year as they would just die, I got tired of it and I got an LSI 9211-8i, let's see how it goes 🤞
Is good x retro computer only w ide port? IDE 133MB/s and PCI v2.2 533MB/s, can use a SSD?
Good vid. Subscribed.
will this also work on pcie x1??
so for a retro pc what would be faster, a standard ide hard drive or one of these pci cards and an ssd?
well on your retro gig, a similar raid card, and some ssd's will give you some intresting performance.
Actually the pci ones doesnt even fit in the pci express slot, pcix only or old pci
How to use that
Can i boot from these in an older machine with IDE only?
I've never managed to do that, I tried several times with no luck. the HDD on the raid card is not recognized in HDD boot order in the bios
It depends on the card. The seller should say whether it's a bootable controller.
@@tunkunrunkSame here :( I'm wondering if its because they are raid controllers, rather than standard SATA controller ?? :) If anyone knows weather this is the case please let me know as I have a windows 98 pc that need something faster that IDE 33 :)
Once the driver is loaded (windows finds it online) you can boot from any drive on the card. Set priority in BIOS. I used thus card to replace old faulty SATA on an old motherboard. Works great
@@dobroplayer7 thx a lot for information! Have a nice day! :)
wow is that expensice, theyre only about $5 new where I live
Software Raid The Best Price Choice For Me😅
Anyone here having corrupted files or hdd shutdown or overall not reliable or killing hdd by using theses cheap pcie cards? I had a few issues and i fear using them now...
Hello,
I'm looking for a little help/guidance from you, If you don't mind me asking please?
We're working on an AI based speech recognition project, the application platform we're using is the Open source Mozilla DeepSpeech.
For this, we first need to train our system with audio files and their texts.
So the data set we have is .wav audio files and .csv files, these files are in millions and each file size varies from 10kb to 500kb in size.
The hardware specs we have right now are.
Intel Core i7 6850K
128GB Ram
AsRock X99 motherboard extreme 3.0
2xRTX 3090
Samsung 970 Evo plus nvme installed on motherboard directly on the m2 sata slot
We are bottlenecking on I/O speeds at the moment, the max we're getting is somewhere around 400MB/s on nvme and we even tried a hardware/software (both) RAID0 as well with 2x128gb samsung 840 SSDs and got same read/write speeds.
Can you help in this regard?
SATA protocol sucks, use damn SAS
Port
i search low end pc so i feel better about mine ahahaha i hope i have graphics card
So it sucks, but doesn't blow.
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