it's so sad that when he's in prison he actually considers the possibility that the reason the team disappeared is because he could've done something to them and blocked the memory :((
The second half of season 1-through 5 were the best. I think they should've ended it after season 5 because season 5's finale would've perfectly ended the series. Season 6 and 7 had some good things about them, but they weren't nearly as good as the earlier seasons.
I'm actually writing an essay on Fitz! I am taking an introduction to Personality course and my character choice is the evolution of Fitz throughout the season and how his actions are driven by his motivations! The only thing is that I can't analyze past season 6 since he suffers a psychotic break
Fitz using the the wires to decapitate the guards was the first thing since the framework that really floored me. The guy that couldn't look at Jemma dissecting bodies in s1 just ruthlessly and calmly leaving bodies as messages
In "The Devil Complex", a little detail during the scene where Deke is worried about his grandparents. Fitz starts fixing his sleeve like "The Doctor" does in the framework and later on in this episode.
Honestly his break explains a lot of his interactions with Deke in seasons 5 and 6. I think once upon a time, before the Framework, Fitz would have found Deke only slightly annoying if not humorous.
I’d also like to add that Fitz’s brain injury made him see people(Jemma in 2x01). His condition always worsened/acted up when Jemma was absent(Beginning of Season 2, him yelling at the monolith, his entire thing in the beginning of Season 5)
I've got to say, the writers of Agents of SHIELD are very good at screwing with their characters' minds. Ward, Fitz and Talbot are all great examples. Each one went through a unique set of experiences that broke their minds and turned them into drastically different people. I'd say Ward is easily has the most depth of any MCU character. I can write essays on that guy.
It's more obvious looking back not because of Fitz but because of Jemma you can see her reactions like at 4:21 it shows how different he is and how she's worried about it.
The stress from work and lack of sleep was causing his mental state to weaken, plus his previous brain injury. The damage was permanent. Then He had the psycic split. He and the Doctor. Fitz was acting more like season 2 fitz, thanks to a semi relapse of sorts to his injury. The stuttering, the shaky breathing and panic, the not knowing things he should, Helps show the true difference between the two Fitzs.
6:38 you can feel the difference, it's done so well. "Yes, I do" vs "No, I don't. But I have to." Both of them true. He's evil in the Framework and needed to save lives in season 5.
I never noticed how he embraced his shadow self as the tough persona in space. That is blowing my mind, thank you. This video... its amazing. Please keep it up forever, and never take it down. Its so brilliant.
To be fair on them, as far as they knew, he had been separated from them for *months* if not *years* after waking from Cryo-sleep in order to prepare for Kaisellus(forgot the Kree dude's name)'s party. So they probably just assumed he was still recovering from the isolation of being separated from his friendsx and needing to addopt that more rutheless persona to get into the party to save them... Meanwhile the government didn't know him beyond his achievements, (and were being run by a remnant of HYDRA). So all they saw was a manic, paranoid possibly schizophrenic former shield scientist probably on his last legs of sanity after whatever he had been through.
The amount of people I saw say Fitz did NOTHING WRONG to Daisy when that episode came out was wild. Like, yeah, have sympathy for him but to say he was absolved of wrong doing was bullshit. Doesn't matter how "necessary" it was, he still fucking did it
Thing is the doctor fits somehow cares about shield and the crew he doesn't want any of them to die but traumatizing them to save the world is his better option
My father and I just watched this episode last night. And we agreed with what he did he did what was necessary not pretty. New Fits will do anything to keep his family alive even if it means they will hate him for it.
The devil complex was the first aos ep I ever saw. My friend and I were channel surfing and saw an ep was just starting, and having both heard good things but never having watched an episode we chucked it on. It was one hell of an intro to the show lmao. We were pretty confused, as you’d imagine, but it didn’t half make me go back and binge all 5 series! Fitz was my fav the whole way through, it’s rare to find such a brilliantly written, brilliantly acted, layered, complex character, his character arc through the show was incredible. Such a great video with all the details leading up to this ep
The Doctor has to be my favourite villain in Agents Of SHIELD. Fitz has some of the BEST character development in the whole of the mcu. He's my favourite character in Agents Of SHIELD. and followed CLOSELY by Coulson obviously. Edit: I love that rendition of the Hydra theme in the first clip.
Impressive! AoS always delivers when it comes to callbacks but they went all out on Fitz's breakdown. I never noticed the mention of hypoxia and how that might have triggered him without him realizing it at all. Great video!
This Vid is really well done. I had totally missed how IDC had reached back to use S2 movements to show how real life Fitz was digressing. The man has such a talent for subtext, not only in the way he emotes the script, but also in his whole body movements. He took a well written script and found so much more in it.
Honestly, Ward is probably at least part of what the Dr's swagger is based on. He is after all, influenced by the patterns he's seen throughout his real life, Ward being an influential part of that.
For fits the ends justified the means here and from what I've seen of it there was no other way daisy would not have gone along with removing the inhibitor no matter what. He saved all of those lives and in doing so they hate him for it.
Well, to be fair Jemma had literally just married Fitz two episodes ago at the time and has essentially been with him for over 10 years so she probably wouldn’t want to give up on him. Besides, as much as she says that the Doctor is Fitz, they are still two separate personalities in one head. Plus, it might be possible that Jemma repressed that memory as much as she could to try and save her marriage. And as much as Daisy wanted to keep her powers switched off, they would have ended up with her powers returning anyway. Who’s to say that the suppressor in her neck wouldn’t have eroded in time against her powers? Those things were only ever meant to be temporary for the control of future buyers and the duration of transportation to other planets. By the time they get there the devices could be updated. Better to remove the device under controlled conditions rather than leave it in and hope for the best.
I think you missed the point of that episode. Throughout the whole series, we see the whole team hesitate to be ruthless when its called for and the Dr. doesn't have that hesitation. He did what he had to in order to save the world. Both Jemma and Deke realized the same thing. Daisy was in momentary pain, the science was sound, they all knew she'd forgive Fitz eventually and its better than inaction.
it's so sad that when he's in prison he actually considers the possibility that the reason the team disappeared is because he could've done something to them and blocked the memory :((
You can honestly write essays on Fitz idk how people can sleep on AOS when it is legitimately one of the best written television shows ever made.
Phrophetsam I know right.
The second half of season 1-through 5 were the best. I think they should've ended it after season 5 because season 5's finale would've perfectly ended the series. Season 6 and 7 had some good things about them, but they weren't nearly as good as the earlier seasons.
@@Riskofrain527 season 6 and 7 gave closure to everyone’s story so it was a better finale to me
I'm actually writing an essay on Fitz! I am taking an introduction to Personality course and my character choice is the evolution of Fitz throughout the season and how his actions are driven by his motivations! The only thing is that I can't analyze past season 6 since he suffers a psychotic break
@@eloisedelvat5685 Whoa! Good luck with that!
Fitz using the the wires to decapitate the guards was the first thing since the framework that really floored me. The guy that couldn't look at Jemma dissecting bodies in s1 just ruthlessly and calmly leaving bodies as messages
In "The Devil Complex", a little detail during the scene where Deke is worried about his grandparents. Fitz starts fixing his sleeve like "The Doctor" does in the framework and later on in this episode.
Great catch I didn’t even notice that one. Love finding new ones.
I was watching that, he kind of like smooths his jacket out too like the Doctor in the same scene i think
Honestly his break explains a lot of his interactions with Deke in seasons 5 and 6. I think once upon a time, before the Framework, Fitz would have found Deke only slightly annoying if not humorous.
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHhhhhh I hate you for pointing this out!!
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Another thing to note is that after they came out of the framework, Fitz wasn’t squeamish around blood, guts etc.
I’d also like to add that Fitz’s brain injury made him see people(Jemma in 2x01). His condition always worsened/acted up when Jemma was absent(Beginning of Season 2, him yelling at the monolith, his entire thing in the beginning of Season 5)
I've got to say, the writers of Agents of SHIELD are very good at screwing with their characters' minds. Ward, Fitz and Talbot are all great examples. Each one went through a unique set of experiences that broke their minds and turned them into drastically different people. I'd say Ward is easily has the most depth of any MCU character. I can write essays on that guy.
I can't believed I missed that the way Fitz was panicking at seeing the doctor was his former behaviour returning as his condition worsened again.
1:10 that isn't really Fitz slowly breaking down that's just Fitz being from the UK
Lol
@@ShieldVids as a fellow ManU fan i agree lol
yeah it is. As a Scot therefore also Brit, I can confirm that is a pretty normal reaction fitz had
It's more obvious looking back not because of Fitz but because of Jemma you can see her reactions like at 4:21 it shows how different he is and how she's worried about it.
The stress from work and lack of sleep was causing his mental state to weaken, plus his previous brain injury. The damage was permanent. Then He had the psycic split. He and the Doctor. Fitz was acting more like season 2 fitz, thanks to a semi relapse of sorts to his injury. The stuttering, the shaky breathing and panic, the not knowing things he should, Helps show the true difference between the two Fitzs.
After re watching the show I saw some of these things but you really found everything!
6:38 you can feel the difference, it's done so well. "Yes, I do" vs "No, I don't. But I have to." Both of them true. He's evil in the Framework and needed to save lives in season 5.
I never noticed how he embraced his shadow self as the tough persona in space. That is blowing my mind, thank you. This video... its amazing. Please keep it up forever, and never take it down. Its so brilliant.
The fact that the government that is holding him prisoner are concerned if he's okay, but his closest friends and fiance ignore all the signs smh
And he didnt say anything about see 'The Doctor'.
To be fair on them, as far as they knew, he had been separated from them for *months* if not *years* after waking from Cryo-sleep in order to prepare for Kaisellus(forgot the Kree dude's name)'s party. So they probably just assumed he was still recovering from the isolation of being separated from his friendsx and needing to addopt that more rutheless persona to get into the party to save them... Meanwhile the government didn't know him beyond his achievements, (and were being run by a remnant of HYDRA). So all they saw was a manic, paranoid possibly schizophrenic former shield scientist probably on his last legs of sanity after whatever he had been through.
1:10 nah that’s just the average Brit watching the footie
Was trying to find this comment
As an American I can say alot of people are like that when watching sports
@@RedK5 My father being one of them. Scares the Hell out of me every time.
The amount of people I saw say Fitz did NOTHING WRONG to Daisy when that episode came out was wild. Like, yeah, have sympathy for him but to say he was absolved of wrong doing was bullshit. Doesn't matter how "necessary" it was, he still fucking did it
The point is not that he didn't do anything wrong. He even says that he doesn't deserve forgiveness.
The point is that it is necessary.
Thing is the doctor fits somehow cares about shield and the crew he doesn't want any of them to die but traumatizing them to save the world is his better option
Yep exactly
My father and I just watched this episode last night. And we agreed with what he did he did what was necessary not pretty. New Fits will do anything to keep his family alive even if it means they will hate him for it.
But why does Framework/Doctor Fitz care about shield and the crew? Is it because some part of him (Our Fitz, the good Fitz) cares about them?
The devil complex was the first aos ep I ever saw. My friend and I were channel surfing and saw an ep was just starting, and having both heard good things but never having watched an episode we chucked it on. It was one hell of an intro to the show lmao. We were pretty confused, as you’d imagine, but it didn’t half make me go back and binge all 5 series! Fitz was my fav the whole way through, it’s rare to find such a brilliantly written, brilliantly acted, layered, complex character, his character arc through the show was incredible. Such a great video with all the details leading up to this ep
The Doctor has to be my favourite villain in Agents Of SHIELD. Fitz has some of the BEST character development in the whole of the mcu. He's my favourite character in Agents Of SHIELD. and followed CLOSELY by Coulson obviously. Edit: I love that rendition of the Hydra theme in the first clip.
Impressive! AoS always delivers when it comes to callbacks but they went all out on Fitz's breakdown. I never noticed the mention of hypoxia and how that might have triggered him without him realizing it at all. Great video!
Well you can blame that
Wow this is a good mini character study :)
This Vid is really well done. I had totally missed how IDC had reached back to use S2 movements to show how real life Fitz was digressing. The man has such a talent for subtext, not only in the way he emotes the script, but also in his whole body movements. He took a well written script and found so much more in it.
2:42 fitz reminded me of ward in season 1
Honestly, Ward is probably at least part of what the Dr's swagger is based on. He is after all, influenced by the patterns he's seen throughout his real life, Ward being an influential part of that.
Ians acting phenomenal 👏
“the devil complex” ? more like “the bus kids break up the band”
What an episode name 😂
I love Fitz like everyone but I think we can agree that if any of us were to meet him he would be very dismissive and uninterested
He is my favorite 😢
he got that dawgter in him
what episode is at 4:05?
5x09 “Past Life”
ugh it’s very annoying that simmons and deke had guns held to them, and watched daisy scream, and in the end sided with fitz instead of the victim.😒
If you believe they “sided” then you don’t understand what being a shield agent means
For fits the ends justified the means here and from what I've seen of it there was no other way daisy would not have gone along with removing the inhibitor no matter what. He saved all of those lives and in doing so they hate him for it.
Well, to be fair Jemma had literally just married Fitz two episodes ago at the time and has essentially been with him for over 10 years so she probably wouldn’t want to give up on him. Besides, as much as she says that the Doctor is Fitz, they are still two separate personalities in one head.
Plus, it might be possible that Jemma repressed that memory as much as she could to try and save her marriage. And as much as Daisy wanted to keep her powers switched off, they would have ended up with her powers returning anyway. Who’s to say that the suppressor in her neck wouldn’t have eroded in time against her powers? Those things were only ever meant to be temporary for the control of future buyers and the duration of transportation to other planets. By the time they get there the devices could be updated. Better to remove the device under controlled conditions rather than leave it in and hope for the best.
I think you missed the point of that episode. Throughout the whole series, we see the whole team hesitate to be ruthless when its called for and the Dr. doesn't have that hesitation. He did what he had to in order to save the world. Both Jemma and Deke realized the same thing. Daisy was in momentary pain, the science was sound, they all knew she'd forgive Fitz eventually and its better than inaction.
Your comment seems to be about something else