Same here lol, I used to play it on Xbox at the start of each season for a bit but never put much time into it. Picked it back up on pc about a week ago and there's so much for me still to learn lol. I feel like especially on pc the entry level skill requirement is so high and it's pretty unforgiving cuz of the BR format.
I played it consistently for like 2 or 3 years straight. Overwatch 2 came out in October 2022 and I haven't played Apex much. I played the other night and I felt like it was like learning how to ride a bike again. I had to learn positioning, movement, and I'm still not used to broken moon
Before I watch this video my favorite loadout ao far this season is the Nemesis + Wingman. Weird since I've never been to great with the Wing hut for some reason this season it feels different to me.
i did a lot of pairing this season and to tell truth i think this list i make is a must pk / wingman sentinel/nemesis r301/sentinel longbow/r99 flatline/pk flatline/voltsmg sentinel/flatline so basically this weapon probably should be in your priority if you see them nemesis >beats all of the AR tbh flatline r301 pk> reliable r99 voltsmg car smg sentinel> is insane when charged wingman all care package weapon
I completely agree with most of this list; the only thing I would disagree with is where the Prowler and the Volt are. I would swap them (I may be biased on controller, though). But the Prowler absolutely shreds, has better DPS, and is arguably at least as good or better at taking on multiple enemies. Plus, there are usually far better things to get out of the crafter considering almost all the SMG's are top-tier and that means getting a Volt isn't really worth it.
G-7 about is what got me through the gold lobbies, Plat lobbies are sweaty but I still find myself using any of the light ammo subs or light machine guns as well CAR included👍
Thanks for the new video man, I really enjoyed. I think they also fixed the free charge on the Sentinel with gold armor. It still costs one shield cell.
Damn the charge is above the sentinel, me personally, if you can hit your shots, the sentinel is the second best sniper, to that of a kraber, nothing beats the kraber as a sniper, but that's me, glad it's an a tier
I suppose this tier list is for experienced players who can track really well, cause I almost never miss a shot with p2020 and it has almost instant reload. When I use smg's I just throw a bunch of bullets in the bin with just one click. I guess I should learn to track better haha
I can agree almost completely with your ratings but the devo with that turbo charger is a or better but getting the two together is almost impossible lately so it's just not a practical pick up
The p2020 feels kind of slept on. I've had 10-15 kill games with just that gun. Hammerpoints are okay, but I typically don't use them, mainly cause I never find them. The p2020 is an incredible secondary that honestly I'm surprised hasn't had more attention recently
Kind of funny, after the first couple days, I swear the Rampage has fallen off in terms of use rate (at least in pubs). It’s like everyone forgot how good it is. Maybe because the G7 is on the ground too. Personally I’m not complaining at all lol. R99 is my go to this season though. It’s SO good right now
How to make the P2020 good. Make it automatic. Keep its fire rate the same. Handful of players can't work a trigger finger and track a strafing enemy back and forth
Never using the repeater, triple take, or p2020. I’ll gladly sit there and accept the death before ever picking up those garbage weapons. I’m taking a 301 over a flatline any day. Ease of use and it’s fire rate is fun to peak and hit 100 plus then pop a smoke
I feel like the R301 and Flatline have dropped off to B+ tier for me. Where you need to be at appropriate ranges. Hipfire nerf was big because those weapons can't contest R99s and PKs anymore up close. Also I never like the Havoc, it's basically an SMG without any of the good SMG perks so why not run a nemesis or an actual SMg!
I think in my opinion that ever gun is really good just people don’t like or suck with certain weapons to make people say they’re a bad gun but good vid 👍
I gotta fully disagree with the alternator, one full mag of the alto does 435. Almost twice as much as the CAR, altho yes going longer into the game people tend to use the 301 or flatline but oh boy does the alternator not get its shine.
I agree with everything except for the mastiff. It is easy to use and has the most consistent damage output. I am a little bit biased since it is my favorite gun and I can see it still being worse than the other shottys. Great vid though! :)
A cool dmg idea: it has a base mag of 27 and goes up to 36 but does 4 dmg and 7 headshot and has the fastest fire rate in the game it unloads a full purple mag in 2.25 seconds
Personally I don't think anyone should be ranking new weapons just yet but okay.. I mean.. the reason why I think that is because it sets a certain mindset to think that 'because the nemesis is so strong, I need to pick it up every game in other to get that edge over my opponents' but then the big and expected nerf comes along and you hear people like 'I don't like this gun anymore since they nerfed it, it's dog water trash and not what it used to be and for that reason I think new legends and weapons should be rated after the balance changes happens but that's just my personal opinion. And personally, I'm quite fine with how the nemesis feels both damage wise and handling..
Something will literally always be getting changed in the future. If you wait for a change, you'll just be waiting for another change. This video is really just a snapshot of the current meta. It updates what has happened over the past few months in terms of Apex's meta evolving. Not per se what the future is going to hold.
Huh, sorry to disappoint but not everyone has the time to try and manage to know every weapon in every season, I would not like to wait for an update and get untrue information.
I can’t for the life of me hit shots with the longbow it has a weird shoot pattern like I feel it’s never centered with the sight you have to like flick it and I’m just terrible with it
These lists are fun to get opinions on but at the end of the day it’s all about what works for the player. If you consistently cook with the alternator then run it even it’s not the most powerful smg. For example, I discovered two seasons ago That I’m particularly good with the havoc and have never gone back no matter how many people simp for the 301. When you run weapons that are not meta you learn little things that get overlooked by the main player base because your play style differs from others. For example, when I run havoc I almost always get fully equipped off the first poi we drop because the other teammates are fighting for light and heavy attachments..
Just a note to all newer players watching this video, Tim is a controller player, that's why weapons like the wingman is rated so high and kraber or charge rifle etc are rated lower.
Doesn't get much higher than A+ for the Kraber. The points I outlined don't really matter based on input. Never thought of the charge rifle either as an input based weapon. I guess I've never really thought of any weapon being better based on the input, lol.
I assume this tier list is more for pubs and/or roller rather than strictly ranked where you expect your opponents to be about as accurate as yourself. Sentinel is much better than longbow in rank simply because it almost always forces out shield battery with one shot, charge rifle would be A also because it wrecks shield economy. The bique is eh,but honestly it’s a better alternator. Spitfire just isn’t usable above a certain rank, like people will legit come out to take duels with an SMG or AR if they hear you using a spit because they know they’ll win most of the time. The R-99 and CAR are broken, doing 130+ from 80~100m seems a bit ridiculous.
Hop into the community discord if you are looking to find others to play with! What do you think of the Nemesis, is it a "fun" gun? discord.gg/hmbMYF5
So idk if it is a glitch but the sentinel with a gold shield uses a shield cell now.
Finding hammer point attachment is easier if you're an assault class legend.
There won’t be a season where the p2020 isn’t the worst weapon in the game.
Yeah... haha
Improve it by 1 damage and decrease mozambique range by 30 and damage to 35.
It was great back in the day when hammerpoints was good.
Watch they put it in the care package and make it insane lmao
Put it in the care package with hammerpoints AND disruptor rounds. As soon as shields are stripped hammerpoints kick in.
Honestly I love tier lists like this. I'm coming back to Apex after well over a year and it literally feels like a completely different game 😅
Same here lol, I used to play it on Xbox at the start of each season for a bit but never put much time into it. Picked it back up on pc about a week ago and there's so much for me still to learn lol. I feel like especially on pc the entry level skill requirement is so high and it's pretty unforgiving cuz of the BR format.
I played it consistently for like 2 or 3 years straight. Overwatch 2 came out in October 2022 and I haven't played Apex much. I played the other night and I felt like it was like learning how to ride a bike again. I had to learn positioning, movement, and I'm still not used to broken moon
Same , trying to figure out if I wana play bang or caustic
especially with everyone on controller... after i argued with the whole community about mnk not being op.
Same lol last time I played was Halloween and I was surprised rev didn’t get that solo ult everyone was talking about yet
Another thing to note about the G-7 double tap,it makes it much more viable in close range if you find yourself in that situation
Before I watch this video my favorite loadout ao far this season is the Nemesis + Wingman. Weird since I've never been to great with the Wing hut for some reason this season it feels different to me.
An Akimbo hop up for pistols would be fun. Also the select fire hop up should come back to the prowler, Hemlock, and nemesis ( after a nerf ofc)
Auto Hemlok would be interesting!
Havok needs select fire back
Dual wield RE45 once it comes back to the ground loot? 👀👀
Dual wield wingman sounds crazy
@@jordanengel1937 I miss my Laserbeams but Objectively theres no reason to use it over turbocharger.
the gold armor also require 1 cell to charge sentinel after a path last season I believe
Nice list, I pick up an r99 every single time, and usually pair it with a nemesis or g7, and sometimes a flatline
I love the rampage when playing as Fuse. Can keep it thermited up with barely any detrement to your inventory!
i did a lot of pairing this season and to tell truth i think this list i make is a must
pk / wingman
sentinel/nemesis
r301/sentinel
longbow/r99
flatline/pk
flatline/voltsmg
sentinel/flatline
so basically this weapon probably should be in your priority if you see them
nemesis >beats all of the AR tbh
flatline
r301
pk> reliable
r99
voltsmg
car smg
sentinel> is insane when charged
wingman
all care package weapon
r301/eva literally shreds. try it once
@@Scythe149 drop the eva for pk any day....didnt say eva wont shred but pk is better
@@lov.2.g yeah agreed, but pk is kinda rare compared to eva (even i drop the eva after getting a pk)
@@Scythe149 exactly...thats why i dont mention eva
@@lov.2.g understandable
RE-45 has disruptor rounds built in not hammer points, no?
re45 doesn’t do extra health damage it does shield
No it’s health damage your thinking of old hammer point rounds
@@KungFuFatty nah he’s right. The RE45 has disruptor rounds not hammer point. It deals extra shield damage
love the tier list bro completely agree with you keep the good work up g
If I pick up rampage, my accuracy automatically reduced for 90%
I have been looking for a fair one of these ur a true W for this
good list, but for re-45 it's the other way around. It uses disrupter rounds not hammerpoints so damage is gonna be higher on shields not flesh.
I completely agree with most of this list; the only thing I would disagree with is where the Prowler and the Volt are. I would swap them (I may be biased on controller, though). But the Prowler absolutely shreds, has better DPS, and is arguably at least as good or better at taking on multiple enemies. Plus, there are usually far better things to get out of the crafter considering almost all the SMG's are top-tier and that means getting a Volt isn't really worth it.
Thanks for sharing. Although the Volt SMG had about 5% more DPS than the prowler. Both are great though.
@@TimProVision oh my bad bro, I thought the Prowler was higher, sorry.
but the ttk for the prowler is incredible. i hip fire everything
My fav top 5 combos so far are
R99 + Wingman
Volt + R99
R301 + Wingman/PK
Nemesis + G7
Flatline + Wingman/Eva 8/PK/Mastiff
G-7 about is what got me through the gold lobbies, Plat lobbies are sweaty but I still find myself using any of the light ammo subs or light machine guns as well CAR included👍
Nice work bro keep up the great work god bless you
Thanks for the new video man, I really enjoyed. I think they also fixed the free charge on the Sentinel with gold armor. It still costs one shield cell.
Yes they did
The developers said that they wanted the nemesis to be the new meta, and they would be nerfing it soon.
Damn the charge is above the sentinel, me personally, if you can hit your shots, the sentinel is the second best sniper, to that of a kraber, nothing beats the kraber as a sniper, but that's me, glad it's an a tier
idk why but i love running r-99 and flatline
The Mozambique is a weird little monster fully kitted. Good vid
I suppose this tier list is for experienced players who can track really well, cause I almost never miss a shot with p2020 and it has almost instant reload. When I use smg's I just throw a bunch of bullets in the bin with just one click. I guess I should learn to track better haha
Right now I’m in love with the flatline and alternator
Big W APPRECIATE THE VIDEO 😊
Thank you for the info you give out to everyone bro. Love you videos.
your accuracy in this game is scary
ive literally tried everything to get better at this game but its not just working any tips
for me i love running double energy either volt or nemesis and triple take
I love the sentinel sniper, I sometimes even use it as a shotgun at close range 😂😁, I've made some sick shots with it for sure it is very fun
yh it kind of feels better then the mastiff as a shotgun
I almost always put just a regular red dot on my Sentinel cuz of that very reason, let's me use it at any range I want lol
@@iTzLagz1995 agreed, i sometimes even just leave it without scope, depending on how the match is going
@Henry I. Rodriguez I never put anything higher then a 1x on it. If I find a digital threat it's going on it 100% of the time though lol
It's funny the titanfall version of the car is a gun you don't really aim with.... due to the fact the hip fire was basically a laser beam!
I can agree almost completely with your ratings but the devo with that turbo charger is a or better but getting the two together is almost impossible lately so it's just not a practical pick up
Hammer points are difficult to find. I actually haven't had them a single time since the beginning of the season.
Nemesis, R301, And Flatline 🔥❤️🔥🔥❤️🔥
Triple take underrated
The p2020 feels kind of slept on. I've had 10-15 kill games with just that gun. Hammerpoints are okay, but I typically don't use them, mainly cause I never find them. The p2020 is an incredible secondary that honestly I'm surprised hasn't had more attention recently
I hope your joking
@@Capytalistbara_edits fr
Cap
I’m a level 20 and the spitfire I just used in a game and it helped me get my first win 100% reccomend
I like Rampage and Nemesis combination the most!
Kind of funny, after the first couple days, I swear the Rampage has fallen off in terms of use rate (at least in pubs).
It’s like everyone forgot how good it is. Maybe because the G7 is on the ground too. Personally I’m not complaining at all lol.
R99 is my go to this season though. It’s SO good right now
I’m so glad I’m not the only one who loves the G7 and can’t hit s*** with iron sights.
How to make the P2020 good.
Make it automatic. Keep its fire rate the same. Handful of players can't work a trigger finger and track a strafing enemy back and forth
no one talking about that transition at 5:34
Never using the repeater, triple take, or p2020. I’ll gladly sit there and accept the death before ever picking up those garbage weapons. I’m taking a 301 over a flatline any day. Ease of use and it’s fire rate is fun to peak and hit 100 plus then pop a smoke
I know its alot to ask, but if you have a purple bolt and hammers, the Bique turns into a beast, in my opinion.
*Gold shotgun bolt has left the chat*
W tier list :)
thank you!
The p2020 and Mozambique is underrated in my opinion
Did they buff the rampage or something? I’ve been shredding people heavy w it these past few days tf
Irons being what brings the g7 down is too accurate
Yeah. I feel like I suck with it if I don't have a sight lol
Volt and Peestol are my standard loadout.
3x is the best sight for long range but 2-4 works also
I feel like the R301 and Flatline have dropped off to B+ tier for me. Where you need to be at appropriate ranges. Hipfire nerf was big because those weapons can't contest R99s and PKs anymore up close.
Also I never like the Havoc, it's basically an SMG without any of the good SMG perks so why not run a nemesis or an actual SMg!
I love your videos they have helped me inprove in apex a lot
thanks I appreciate it!
The nemesis is pretty ridiculous right now, but the re45 is like a baby shiela. It just eats people. XD
14:52 “…with a singular trigger… *pull*”
Rampage nemisis flatline r99 wingman are my favorite guns in the game
I think in my opinion that ever gun is really good just people don’t like or suck with certain weapons to make people say they’re a bad gun but good vid 👍
Duel wielding p2020s. The obvious hop up that it needs to be a viable secondary.
Also the wingman is a crutch and I hate people that use it.
I gotta fully disagree with the alternator, one full mag of the alto does 435. Almost twice as much as the CAR, altho yes going longer into the game people tend to use the 301 or flatline but oh boy does the alternator not get its shine.
P20 definitely underrated but overall guns pretty balanced
I love it when you make these kind of videos!! 🍿
Kids be cracked with nemesis. Me on the other hand it's like I'm shooting a water gun at them with it 😂
The g7 iron sight is definitely buns
:)
huge W for the boys i will be picking the r-99 and the PK or the repeater and ill change the secondary to the hemmy or the re-45
I agree with everything except for the mastiff. It is easy to use and has the most consistent damage output. I am a little bit biased since it is my favorite gun and I can see it still being worse than the other shottys. Great vid though! :)
I honestly think mastiff is king especially as a secondary to finish someone off
@@BaldDaddyCool Agreed, it is super satisfying to use and if you are close range you can get very consistent 77-88 dmg hits.
The p2020 and Mozambique is underrated
:) Thanks for the list, braddah!
I like how you make a tier list video without a tierlist chart... amazing
cool
wtf a tier list without an actual list
Funny that the EVA-8 was a straight F tier strash gun like 0-5-1 year ago..
Good video but it's really distracting that you say:
"It does have" instead of "it has"
Or "it does do a lot of damage" vs "it does a lot of damage"
A cool dmg idea: it has a base mag of 27 and goes up to 36 but does 4 dmg and 7 headshot and has the fastest fire rate in the game it unloads a full purple mag in 2.25 seconds
That's broken💀
@@kevinvictorlas6070 but it only does 4 dmg
@@kevinvictorlas6070 I’ve done the math that’s only a little less time to kill as the r99 this season
Do u use steam deck?
I don't
Idk why but my favorite loadout is a 3030 and wing man I either hit or I’m smit
Personally I don't think anyone should be ranking new weapons just yet but okay..
I mean.. the reason why I think that is because it sets a certain mindset to think that 'because the nemesis is so strong, I need to pick it up every game in other to get that edge over my opponents' but then the big and expected nerf comes along and you hear people like 'I don't like this gun anymore since they nerfed it, it's dog water trash and not what it used to be and for that reason I think new legends and weapons should be rated after the balance changes happens but that's just my personal opinion.
And personally, I'm quite fine with how the nemesis feels both damage wise and handling..
Something will literally always be getting changed in the future. If you wait for a change, you'll just be waiting for another change. This video is really just a snapshot of the current meta. It updates what has happened over the past few months in terms of Apex's meta evolving. Not per se what the future is going to hold.
Huh, sorry to disappoint but not everyone has the time to try and manage to know every weapon in every season, I would not like to wait for an update and get untrue information.
@@arthurbaldrich well. I did say it was just my personal opinion you know :)
@@nickhutton9216 that’s why initiate my respond with a sorry* did not mean to offend you or anything.
@@arthurbaldrich ah.. okay. Its cool bro :) we're all apex playing adults here -hugs
Honestly, I'd take the Mozambique or the p2020 over the LStar or Spitfire almost all of the time...
Still prefer the CAR even after the buff to R9, maybe i'm just way used to the CAR's recoil
Yeah, tho the R99 has imo quite a bit more recoil which does make it slightly harder to use at medium range for me.
14:54 did he go through the wall?
He fell of the building
I can’t for the life of me hit shots with the longbow it has a weird shoot pattern like I feel it’s never centered with the sight you have to like flick it and I’m just terrible with it
Mozambique is not suck , it’s underrated
It’s good it just FEELS like shit to me. Always has.
It’s so awkward
The altanter is such a good gun to pick up off drop
Big W 😁
Thank you!!
@@TimProVision thanks for the tips ❤️❤️
I really miss pre nerf havoc and lstar they used to be soo much better
ngl but top 3 gotta be re-45 r-99 and nemesis, the re-45 is OPPP
Alternator is s tier most underrated gun ig
These lists are fun to get opinions on but at the end of the day it’s all about what works for the player. If you consistently cook with the alternator then run it even it’s not the most powerful smg. For example, I discovered two seasons ago That I’m particularly good with the havoc and have never gone back no matter how many people simp for the 301. When you run weapons that are not meta you learn little things that get overlooked by the main player base because your play style differs from others. For example, when I run havoc I almost always get fully equipped off the first poi we drop because the other teammates are fighting for light and heavy attachments..
The mastiff is way better than the eva though
Reason...?
*Yeets into lava* : *jump cut*
Just a note to all newer players watching this video, Tim is a controller player, that's why weapons like the wingman is rated so high and kraber or charge rifle etc are rated lower.
Doesn't get much higher than A+ for the Kraber. The points I outlined don't really matter based on input.
Never thought of the charge rifle either as an input based weapon. I guess I've never really thought of any weapon being better based on the input, lol.
Nemesis and RE45 combo 😳
9:14 what???? How am i just now finding this out
Man I've been playing since day 1
This is a relatively new "nerf" they did it maybe a season or two ago.
I assume this tier list is more for pubs and/or roller rather than strictly ranked where you expect your opponents to be about as accurate as yourself.
Sentinel is much better than longbow in rank simply because it almost always forces out shield battery with one shot, charge rifle would be A also because it wrecks shield economy.
The bique is eh,but honestly it’s a better alternator.
Spitfire just isn’t usable above a certain rank, like people will legit come out to take duels with an SMG or AR if they hear you using a spit because they know they’ll win most of the time.
The R-99 and CAR are broken, doing 130+ from 80~100m seems a bit ridiculous.
I don’t think the sentinel is free to charge with golds, I tried it the other day and it didn’t seem to work
Then I don’t know what you tried cause it definitely is free to charge with a gold armor
I would put Mozamblam in a godtier+ category
Good list but there's no way the longbow is better than the sentinel and charge rifle
“the first gun is gonna be..”
*ad plays*
I love to pair the R301 with the Mozambique
Thanks for sharing!
long bow the best sniper in my opinion
Big W 😀
Super thanks!!!