The Best Loadout in The Finals - Full Ranked Commentary

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  • @xPookinator
    @xPookinator 6 місяців тому +7

    Love the commentary style videos! Also I’m diamond 1 but haven’t played ranked in a couple weeks just waiting for S2.

  • @ParzivalNakamura
    @ParzivalNakamura 6 місяців тому +7

    I’m D1 Heavy main, and I am really hoping Embark does the right thing and just reworks the light and medium to compete with the current state of the heavy. Heavy is fun to play, which makes it good for casuals, and buffing/reworking light and medium will benefit ranked and competitive play. Too many games get into the habit of just nerf after nerf and Embark has done well so far. The biggest things for each class are:
    Heavy - More aggressive nuke physics
    Medium - Defib/Recon/Heal tweaks to maintain its utility but avoid triple heal spam and defib
    Light - New equipment, a 35 HP stim over the course of .75-1 second (Like COD), that also enables health regeneration. With a modest cooldown.

  • @mrdirtydaniel
    @mrdirtydaniel 6 місяців тому +4

    Wildly underrated video, and not really about the loadout as much as it is about decision making and positioning. Sent to the whole squad. Subbed. Keep it up!

    • @Appoh
      @Appoh  6 місяців тому

      really glad to see the support on these, I didn't expect such positive feedback on the thought process for cashouts but it seems like it's a big topic people are enjoying so I'll 100% keep this in mind for future videos

  • @AcrylicJumbo
    @AcrylicJumbo 6 місяців тому +4

    Great commentary, loved the gameplay ! looking foward to see more of those

  • @parkerfrisby9717
    @parkerfrisby9717 6 місяців тому +2

    I actually really enjoyed watching your gameplay and the commentary was very informative for newer players. I can tell you definitely know your shit aboit this game and you’re not narrow minded like some other UA-camrs. Keep it up!!

    • @Appoh
      @Appoh  6 місяців тому +1

      awwe that's very appreciated ! I will try to get a light game out there. I feel like light is the hardest to grasp for newer players because they have such a different playstyle

    • @parkerfrisby9717
      @parkerfrisby9717 6 місяців тому

      @@Appoh Yup I agree with you. That would definitely help out a lot of people. I’ll be looking forward to it!

  • @willshikabob
    @willshikabob 6 місяців тому +12

    I wish light was better against heavies, the matchup is always very one sided. With how much utility heavy has, I’d love to see the glitch grenade work through walls and on impact. I think having the stun gun effect different classes for different amounts of time could help too (lights get stunned for a shorter duration, mediums normal, heavies more). The breach charge having 1 charge where the c4 has 2 has also always been weird to me as well.

    • @BRAYdoesCOD
      @BRAYdoesCOD 6 місяців тому +1

      I feel like the glitch would be broken then for pulling people off the cash out steal

    • @JIPANChannel
      @JIPANChannel 6 місяців тому +3

      I am light user, and was easy fight againts heavy. With sword of course ❤

    • @akakezzy6152
      @akakezzy6152 6 місяців тому +1

      @@BRAYdoesCODglitch doesn’t stop them stealing does it?

    • @BRAYdoesCOD
      @BRAYdoesCOD 6 місяців тому

      @@akakezzy6152 I thought it did as I’ve been pulled off it a few times after a glitch grenade but it looks like I was probably hit with a stun too. Don’t think glitch pulls you iff

    • @akakezzy6152
      @akakezzy6152 6 місяців тому +1

      @@BRAYdoesCOD yeah as far as I’m aware it’s just the stun

  • @mrx8532
    @mrx8532 6 місяців тому +2

    So i completely agree on your opinion about the heavy . My rank is currently plat 1 and ..oh boy i have been maining light and sniping. It has been a struggle but i noticed if you have a team that communicates with you and you give info with your sights about where the enemy teams move and what they do , you dont get flamed by your mates. Important note is you need to hit your shots for sure . However whenever i played heavy with the currently loadout you presented , game becomes easy mode . Two c4 on a barrel , a bit of aim you can demolish enemy team combined with an rpg at the end . Its laughable how in one game i ended killing 15 enemies without even sweating. Light is so position centric , if you make a mistake prolly you are dead, instead if u make a mistake with heavy you have 2 shields to save you until your m8s cover you. Quick tip if you want to go sniping always use the grappling hook ,imo best gadget to get in or out fast , grab your team8's statue and escape from a very difficult position

    • @SmokinTonic
      @SmokinTonic 6 місяців тому

      ^damn near what i was gon say word for word lmao. im on light yelln why tf can a lewis bodyshot me in 6 but my sniper takes 4😂 swear i put on meta heavy n im winning games w/out even leaning forward

    • @alohame5582
      @alohame5582 6 місяців тому

      I am plat 2 and I totally agree. I play medium with the riot shield, but when I occasionally play heavy, my aim is pretty much on point. To kill with the shield, I need to play without mistakes for a few seconds, blocking incoming bullets. (Considering heavy has 3 pretty hard counters to me) But when I play heavy, I basically hold 1 button and win. Heavy is so easy even without nukes, which is crazy

  • @ospuze
    @ospuze 6 місяців тому +1

    Nice video. I'm excited for the future balance changes they make.

    • @Appoh
      @Appoh  6 місяців тому

      honestly thats how i feel, i want some balance changes too

  • @flori2814
    @flori2814 6 місяців тому +1

    gold 3 here i guess. i consider defib+healing beam and mesh/dome/rpgs/nukes in the same exact category of "fair enough when there's one, incredibly annoying and difficult to deal with on 2 or more". If you don't play light you basically cannot glitch them from range, which means you can't ever push them unless you manage an incredible flank. They have crazy priority when engaging a fight due to high damage solid range splash attacks that also open sightlines, AND shielding when you fire back. If you wanna try and counterplay this with say, cl40(my main) to do damage through mesh and make nuke tactics unsafe, it just enables their teammates even more since now you can't pick off the fcar player when they AREN'T behind the heavy. Not to mention explosives are solid vs mesh but not that strong vs dome due to the bounce (and cl40 having 4 shots before needing to reload)
    then add onto it high HP and high damage and you just have a bunch of teams in ranked that you can't fight provided your team comp and loadouts aren't using the same things. A light theoretically has great value here with a better ability to flank and ways to disable opponents, but it carries extreme risk. the most consistent counter is to just not be there and shoot at them from far away, which is just not very fun.

  • @cl1ckh3ds15
    @cl1ckh3ds15 6 місяців тому +1

    I love this type of video. Great work cant wait for more ❤

  • @SukixChaos
    @SukixChaos 6 місяців тому +2

    i run sword only and i wish there was a bit more to do against others. basically you have to plan your attacks very smartly and you have to play around them literally

  • @TheRealRhino
    @TheRealRhino 6 місяців тому +1

    I think if light was given a stim that starts health regen and maybe even a slight speed boost. Breach charge should have two charges and c4 should have one. Maybe a glitch grenade buff/ rework as well could help.
    Fcar needs a nerf as well. It often beats lights close range when I feel that it should not. I’d like to see more diversity with medium weapon meta

  • @AndyBoy-0607
    @AndyBoy-0607 6 місяців тому +2

    If you're looking for feedback from different ranges, I don't play ranked but I've been playing unranked about a week now and pretty much everyone plays light/medium and I'm usually the only one playing heavy. It's probably just skill issue but I think Heavy is hard to play

    • @AndyBoy-0607
      @AndyBoy-0607 6 місяців тому

      I was genuinely surprised when you said heavy was the most overpowered 😂

    • @Appoh
      @Appoh  6 місяців тому

      i think its a fun issue, heavy was voted least fun class to play on my channel, and quickplay is all about casually playing and enjoying yourself, heavy by far is the easiest but its not that fun for the majority of people so popularity and power dont really match up, if you look at high elo heavies are super common

    • @AndyBoy-0607
      @AndyBoy-0607 6 місяців тому

      that's interesting. i play heavy regularly just because its almost essential to a good team but it definitly is not always fun 😂

  • @AdmiralPenguinPete
    @AdmiralPenguinPete 6 місяців тому +1

    Personally I think the problem with Heavy is not that Meta Heavy isn't counter-able, but that counterplay once you make a mistake is way too punishing (Especially in comparison to other Punishment Utility like the Stun Gun). Instant Death vs Still Being able to Shoot Stunned feels makes using Heavy a no brainer. Also I don't want to undermine the other issues like the abundance of team utility.
    Side Note: Thanks for the Games yesterday

    • @Appoh
      @Appoh  6 місяців тому +1

      I think this is a good point i could have mentioned, the fact that its a rock paper scissors game where things have counterplay, the issue is when rock is so strong it just means paper needs to try way harder to achieve the same success rate. It has counters but those counters arent as strong in comparison

  • @RedmanProductions
    @RedmanProductions 6 місяців тому +1

    hey, that's me! (i was how) ggs man and keep up the great content

    • @Appoh
      @Appoh  6 місяців тому +1

      ty for the games

  • @goldenwolf9583
    @goldenwolf9583 6 місяців тому +3

    I love to play light and would say that I’m an above average light player but it’s super hard to play ranked (so I play mostly quick cash with the light) it would be awesome if they would get a buff. When I play ranked I play medium or heavy depending on what feels better on that day. It’s also hard to find mates for ranked that don’t have a problem with you playing the light class.

    • @Appoh
      @Appoh  6 місяців тому

      yeah i mean even as a top 150 player that is good at light, people still dont want me on light, even though i nine times out of ten carry them anyways

    • @SmokinTonic
      @SmokinTonic 6 місяців тому

      faster health regen needs to happen, fits the hit n run playstyle

  • @ellisfleming9972
    @ellisfleming9972 6 місяців тому +1

    Bro I’m in this game and you absolutely destroyed me. I’m not even close to your skill level so I was very upset lmao. Jflembot^

    • @Appoh
      @Appoh  6 місяців тому

      yeah the matchmaking can be goofy sometimes

  • @JP-xd1vs
    @JP-xd1vs 6 місяців тому

    I die to lights more than anything else. When I play light, I understand that it does take some effort to be good at it, but lately I’ve been running into lobbies with teams of double or even triple lights and those are the most frustrating games ever, even more so than double or triple heavy. As a medium main, I prefer fighting a lot of mediums and heavies than a lot of lights. The dash, stun, and invis is really strong if used by good players.

    • @Appoh
      @Appoh  6 місяців тому

      I have a video about how to counter lights, I'd suggest that video if you are looking for a way to make facing lights easier, we are seeing them more lately and they are definitely gonna take some time to figure out how to face and how to use

  • @---li1oo
    @---li1oo 6 місяців тому +1

    I play light on rank and casual too, but light is hard in rank, I’ve see very very few times that there are light in semifinal, and often times it’s just heavy and medium plus a one light that’s me, and my team is easily the one to be targeted

    • @Appoh
      @Appoh  6 місяців тому

      Im hoping i can get a full light commentary before s2 but i have a lot of editing and recording i need to do so bare with me

  • @mrdirtydaniel
    @mrdirtydaniel 6 місяців тому +2

    Imagine being so good you get to decide who gets thru 😂

    • @Appoh
      @Appoh  6 місяців тому +1

      i mean that's part of the macro of this game :p if you have the opportunity to control it, you do it

  • @Keke_Kanal
    @Keke_Kanal 6 місяців тому

    I Like your content ❤

  • @majesticm.c.a.5633
    @majesticm.c.a.5633 6 місяців тому +1

    I run heavy, but only thing I use in the META is the RPG, so if they do something to Heavy, I want the MGL32 Damage increased.

    • @Appoh
      @Appoh  6 місяців тому

      yeah i try to run stuff like the MGL, lewis, pyro mines etc just because even without all the op picks in the video heavy is still strong and it feels more rewarding to get kills without meta slaving

  • @AnkitSharma-vy6sp
    @AnkitSharma-vy6sp 6 місяців тому +2

    how does the scrim happen? is there an option of custom room in finals?

    • @Appoh
      @Appoh  6 місяців тому

      q snipes where we are all in a discord, wait for count down and q at the same time

  • @andrewschab1816
    @andrewschab1816 6 місяців тому +1

    I’m in plat and personally play double heavy medium and honestly nuking with double mesh shield there’s really nothing other people can do heavy is in a very weird spot

    • @Appoh
      @Appoh  6 місяців тому

      Very true

  • @BrianTruce
    @BrianTruce 6 місяців тому +1

    Dudes a BEAST😲

    • @Appoh
      @Appoh  6 місяців тому +1

      BRO I'm legit using the heavy GL after your video right now haha, thats crazy glad to see you here

    • @BrianTruce
      @BrianTruce 6 місяців тому +1

      hahaha thats so awesome, I'm honored@@Appoh

    • @alohame5582
      @alohame5582 6 місяців тому

      He's top 200, so you kinda expect it from him

  • @alohame5582
    @alohame5582 6 місяців тому +2

    Yes. Now we need to nerf nukes, so that it explodes instantly after placing C4 on it. Why even try to rank up as light, when it's much easier as heavy

    • @Appoh
      @Appoh  6 місяців тому

      that depends what you value more, fun or rank

  • @SukixChaos
    @SukixChaos 6 місяців тому +1

    i would prefer other classes buffed than everything nerfed until equal

    • @Appoh
      @Appoh  6 місяців тому

      agreed

  • @yay8474
    @yay8474 6 місяців тому +1

    Why does the heavy not die when he kamikazes the nuke?

    • @Appoh
      @Appoh  6 місяців тому +1

      the range on the c4s are kinda funky sometimes

  • @madelf4466
    @madelf4466 6 місяців тому +1

    You can't have a class that does the most damage and has the most health. It will be abused.

  • @Devante808
    @Devante808 6 місяців тому +1

    I had some light player tell me heavy’s are trash and that lights are meta😂😂😂 heavy all the way

  • @Youtub-IDK
    @Youtub-IDK 6 місяців тому +2

    hi

  • @DuckFilmsTV
    @DuckFilmsTV 6 місяців тому +1

    Shotgun SMH 😔

    • @Appoh
      @Appoh  6 місяців тому +1

      lewis gang rise up

    • @DuckFilmsTV
      @DuckFilmsTV 6 місяців тому

      @@Appoh 🙏🏻

  • @bartim0re487
    @bartim0re487 6 місяців тому +1

    Its not heavy need nerf (imo its perfect) its Light that has to be nerfed much more along with a little bit more nerf to medium as well. Heavy is not best in game definitely.
    To many idiots running light ruining the game. Sometimes entire games i join are full of L. Theres reason for it. Light are simply way OP (especially whole team). I server hop till i find max 3 lights split between 2 teams. I dont want stupid 'sniper fest' or 'catch an invisible coward' game. I want fun and even fights. You get that by mixed teams.

    • @madelf4466
      @madelf4466 6 місяців тому

      This is not the case in ranked

  • @Youtub-IDK
    @Youtub-IDK 6 місяців тому +3

    i play light non ranked