Honey Packing
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- Опубліковано 21 тра 2020
- A behind the scenes look and demonstration of our automated honey packing equipment and operation at Blue Ridge Honey Co.
Labelers, www.universal1.com/
Honey packing equipment, apexfilling.com/
Filters. www.rosedaleproducts.com/
Hi sir here in kuwait the flower honey is crystallizing very quickly , is there any solution for that . sir thank you
The best way to keep bottled honey from crystallizing is to bottle it hot. 140°f would work. You have a high percentage of dextrose in your honey, which is the sugar in honey that is prone to crystalizing. Dextrose will partially convert to fructose with heat or time or a combination of both. Fructose is not prone to crystalizing. Bottling hot will also insure that any crystals present in the honey ( I call them seed crystals ) will be completely melted at that time. Even small amounts of crystals present when bottling will cause the rest of the honey to crystalize if there is a high percentage of dextrose in your honey so it helps to make sure they are melted. Many packers in our country do this to keep crystallization from occurring but of course heating honey this warm will have a negative affect on the enzymes present and the overall quality of the honey.
Wow that’s quite the upgrade
Are you kidding, this vid will go ‘beekeeper’ viral
Thanks Ian. Your spring challenges have been interesting to watch.
Yes, this made me smile when I got the notification!
I just wish it was longer... Lol
Wow!
This is inspiring sir. I am a small scale honey business owner and am looking forward to expanding my business like this in the nearest future. I hope quality assurance measures are being put in place to ensure the honey is still in its natural state.
Kudos sir, just loving what am seeing here
Never thought beekeeping would be more expensive than owning a boat. I stand corrected. That's a beauty of a setup. Excellent work.
Thanks. The money in this room would have bought a nice boat. Hmm.
I will watch anything you put out Bob. Always something to learn.
Don’t sell yourself short people love this stuff including me!
Thanks.
Thanks Bob, that's a very nice setup.
You make such great videos and I'd like to thank you for taking the time to share your knowledge with your fellow beekeepers. Much appreciated
Thank you.
Impressive setup!! I'm going to visit you when this crazy world straightens out... Thanks, I enjoy your videos.
Thanks.
That sure is impressive!! I hope you have a good maintenance person. Lots and lots of things that could go wrong and lots of piece to maintain. Your operation is top notch. Thanks again for the insight.
That would be Dave. He's been called the fireman. He spends half his time putting out fires around here.
The Company I use to work at used a Label Machine some what like this, the round tables at each end bought back fond memories. Love you channel, stay safe and Bless You.
Thanks.
Well engineered, well planed, well done.
Great video! Amazing to see the automated bottling system vs. the manual system in last year's video. I'm a new BK in California, with just one 3 medium super hive started in March 2020. The silver lining in the virus crisis was that I had time to finally get into beekeeping. Have no aspirations to get to your level, but the information you provide is excellent. Thanks!
Thanks for your comment.
Great setup Bob clean, efficient and definitely very interesting.
Thank you.
Very impressive and clean both from an engineering and sanitary standpoint. Great video.
Thanks.
Thank you for sharing this, I found it interesting on how you heat the honey,
Much bigger than my small 5t/yr operation.
Very nice Bob!! Thanks for shearing
AWESOME! I grinned when I saw this notification!
Thank you for giving us machine lovers and honey house dreamers something to enjoy.
I'm glad you found it interesting.
Awesome setup. Thanks, for sharing. Lots of details.
Thanks
You are a good man Bob.
My God continue to bless you, and yours. Bee well.
That is a seriously impressive setup!! Sounds like brother in law came thru big time for you on them tanks! 👍
It's nice to have relatives like him.
Never thought I would enjoy a processing facility but, I was wrong. It was very interesting and informative. I enjoy your videos. Keep up the good work.
Thanks.
Bob
That is an impressive setup you got there, very nicely put together
Aside from all the honey gear, I want to address the water flow system, that is an art my friend, I am of European back round and we use in-concrete water system etc, when I came here, my first house I built, I installed a water boiler here in MI with 8 zones, meaning I had individual zone pumps and the main line that was running between them with its own supporting pump that would kick on every time one of the individual zone pump came on, very cool system, my wife loved the in-floor bathroom heating system, towel warmer and other stuff that I used it for, even the driveway had its own zone, the only negative part of that was that in the summer time I still had to use the typical American heating system for AC option, so with that said, when you showed your way of warming the honey, you just sent me back in time, and if I ever get as big as you with regards to your operation, will definitely use that approach, and the instant water heater, that is a nice touch, mine was a Crown boiler and I had a takagi instant water heater, I still do in this other house that I built, I love the instant water heater, the down part about those, in the cold, it takes a minute to get your hot water to your sink, but when I built this house I put an outlet under all bathroom sinks so I can attach an integrated little circulating pump between the hot and cold that went back to the water heater, all I have to do is puss a little button and the water gets circulated enough to start the heater, in the next minute or so I turn on the water and I got instant warm water without waiting for it to warm up and waste water until that happens;
Anyways, you have something that not many even understand to appreciate my friend, great setup, always thought you are a slick guy, but this proved that you know for sure what you are doing, lol.
God bless and be safe.
Dan
Thanks for the informative comment.
thank you for this great video! I Had been thinking of using a pool-style heat pump to heat a reservoir in an insulated ibc tote. I think the on-demand heater costs less to buy and install. thank you again. all your talks are fascinating.
Thank you for sharing it was a great video with detailed insight on your honey processing.
Thanks.
WOW, that is awesome. Everything is put together so nice and neat. A lot of care went into that system. Truly amazing to me. I don't know why this wouldn't be watched very much. I think I'll watch it again. lol I'd like to see how you get the honey from the drums into the system. Thanks for another great video Bob.
Thank you. See our video. ua-cam.com/video/bnwnfoCLjrw/v-deo.html for how we get the honey to the tanks.
Very cool to see your setup. Thanks for sharing.
Hi Scott. Thanks.
I always love your videos.
Thank you.
Thank you Bob, I really appreciate the insight into your system..
You bet
What company build those tanks for honey
You have a great team signs of a hard working leader.
Thanks, I'll tell them you said that.
Very super clean operation!
Thank you
Great video, my friend! It was neat to see how the bottling process works.
Thanks.
Awesome setup. Consistent smooth process. Not terribly complicated just terribly expensive as food processing always is. Looks to be maintenance friendly with generally obtainable parts/pieces. Thanks for sharing.
Everything you said is correct. Thanks for the comment.
Thanks Bob! Somehow I missed this video when you posted it but I’m glad I found it now since I received my Sourwood and Tupelo honey in the mail 3 days ago, now I know how you bottled it. By the way it’s very good! Now I have 4 flavors stashed and enough to last me and my wife until next year!
I'm glad you liked them. Only four?
Bob, two of the four are from my bees. I produced clover and wildflower from my bees.
That was really neat....
Cool video. Good info.
You should look into the Swienty capping system. It sorts and automatically caps on a converyor belt system.
Oh no! I immediately had a mental flash of Lucy working in the candy factory, and getting behind the machine, stuffing pieces of candy every which where trying to keep up with the moving line! Can't do that with open topped honey jars!!🤪😁😁💞🥳🤷♀️🥳😘🤣🤣
The first time we started it up we were joking about that very thing.
beautiful jar
You have a lovely set up!😍😍😍💞😘🦄
Thank you.
Anyone notice Bob’s calm demeanour compared to Ian’s lol? Might be the Manitoba weather. Beautiful set up Bob. Thanks for posting. Cheers from Ontario.🐝
Thanks, you haven't seen me on a bad day. I wouldn't post that.
Yeah that's just slightly more advanced than the 9 frame crank extractor I use. 😂 Great video Bob!
Thanks.
Fascinating
Excellent honey packaging facility. If filling chamber will be covered it will be perfect.
Hi Muhammad. There isn't a filling chamber or piston like some machines have. There are four different pumps that turn on and off with each fill. There are also cutoff valves at the filler heads that close at the same time the pump turns off.
Wow! Excellent insider view of a commercial honey packing facility. I think you probably spill more honey than I harvest in a year. 😆
We try not to spill any but it happens. Thanks.
Nice place to visit on the way to highlands! Nice setup
Thanks.
Very nice 😊
amazing!!
Thanks.
I build control panels for a living so this is very interesting to me
Glad you enjoyed it. I'm still learning about them.
Such a professional 🐝
Love it
Thanks, very interesting, we don't normally see that side of things.
Thanks.
I always stop through your shop on the way from Louisiana to North Georgia & NC. The windows are great. I always look thru them, but never got to see anyone working, so instead I just turn away and spend money instead.........lol
You may have been coming through on the weekends when the crew is off.
@@bobbinnie9872 That's usually the case. No matter to me though, I love your store. I grab up plenty of good stuff every time. My buddy in Florida bought up some 3 frame NUC boxes from you and wants more. He loves them.
Awesome info the model is in stock and they are overnighting it so I can get my honey bottled it is quite a process for 97 colonies “I know 100 hives is a full time job 🤦♂️“ thanks again your info and videos are priceless!!! Let me know if I can help you with anything I owe you! 👍🏻
Thanks, good luck.
Just found your channel while looking for honey processing. New subscriber. Thank you for this video. Wow! Impressive. Did you design the process? You've thought of everything. And, spotless. I have to ask. Who did the plumbing? Electrical? One of the best jobs Ive ever seen for electrical / plumbing. Nice to see a well done job.
This isn't my first honey house and I've been lucky to have good people help me with this one.
good one place is nice and clean
Excellent Bob your videos! I am a beekeeper from a small town in Argentina, and I wanted to ask you if you do something in the process to avoid the premature crystallization of the honey inside the jars. Thank you very much, and congratulations for yours instalations and equipments!
We are lucky here that our local honey does not crystalize fast so we avoid bottling it at extreme temperatures. If we have something that does crystalize quick we will bottle at 105 to 110f.
Love your work, I’m interested in purchasing empty bear bottles with lids in a 480g size can you help? Thanks
Hello sir
Please tell the viewers how filters big and small connected and how they work .
Excellent Video. Thank you for sharing . Question (s) : How do you wash ( sterilise) your glass jars ? How do you wash ( sterilize) your plastic containers?
We purchase jars pre-washed at the factory.
Are the jars weight checked? This is an excellent video. Thanks for tour.
Spot checked many times during the day. Thanks.
Where do you source the glass jars?
Amazing operation by the way
Thanks. Kelly Packaging. 770 598 1097
@@bobbinnie9872 thanks for the information keep the videos coming 👍🏻
Thank you for the information Bob - I am curious if you use the glass jars directly from the box or if you run them through a cleaning/wash cycle first?
We purchase them pre-washed from the factory and because honey is considered a "safe" food they don't have to be sterilized. Of course, washing never hurts and may make the jar sparkle more.
@@bobbinnie9872 Thank you for the response.
Do you have to lubricate the tracks? It didn’t appear so. I worked in food industry and our packaging was paper. So we had to lubricate the track or the bottoms of our containers would be compromised.
We never have and was told not to by the manufacturer. I guess it's the type of plastic involved.
Thank you for your generosity of sharing this information. Does your brother-in-law build these for others? I’d be very interested
I asked before I posted this video and he said he has too much work ahead to take more orders.
Bob Binnie at Blue Ridge Honey Company I can understand why. Thank you again for all the information you’re sharing
Hmmm... I wondered, would it be faster to fill the jars if one timed the pumps to fill a jar 1/4 of the way every time the jar goes past? You could have the jars go by at a constant rate rather than fill 4 at a time. Maybe?
It takes a moment for the drip. It could be messy if it goes too fast.
@@bobbinnie9872 I'm sure you're right. You know how easy it is to solve the worlds issues sitting one one's ass. 🤣 Thank you for the videos, Sir!👍
What material are your walls made out of and is there a certain paint that you use? I'm interested and it's construction just in general.
As well as the ceiling.
“Thousands” LOL HA HA HA HA
"Thousands" is a word we both understand.
Not sure if you'll get this message? Are the Rosedale filters the way to go prior to the fill master? the stainless steel cam locks and processing facility brings tears to my eyes absolutely beautiful!!!! can't wait to see it in person soon as covid is over.
Yes, in my opinion the Rosedale style filters are the best choice. You can order different mesh sizes for their filter bags. We use 400, 600 and 800 micron depending on the customers needs. Last year the Mann Lake filters would take the same filters, I don't know if that is still the case. Thanks.
Thank you! do you have a specific size or model ?
@@bradkendrick1127 Rosedale Model # 4-12-11/2P-1-500-SSN Poly. This was the number in 2012 when we purchased them. They have many sizes and types, and we have bigger ones for our main pump that fills our tanks but these are perfect for the Fill Masters.
Good luck
Very nice operation! Do you blend your multi source wildflower honey for a consistent color/taste or just bottle it as it comes?
We do make an effort to keep the color and flavor similar but it's not always exactly the same.
Good deal! I was just curious. Keep the videos coming! I’m eating it up!
@@bobbinnie9872 could pm me on how much all this cost?
tiwana bee farm in India is building very cost-efficient machines and very high quilty
i wish I could order one bottle of honey from you for my self use in India.
What level of filtering is required for Grade A Fancy? Consumers probably don't realize what they are gettting.
Honey labeled U.S. Grade A Fancy must be “free of defects that affect appearance and may not contain particles that affect clarity.” In other words, if you can see anything at all in your honey it can't qualify. That takes a fairly fine filter.
I want to buy this machine .
Do you filter again after 800 micron filter? I'm a small producer and I use the 2 piece 5 gal stainless steel filters that Dadant and Mann Lake sells but they're in the range of 700 down to 500 microns. Am I filtering too much?
We either filter again between the tanks and the bottling machines with either a 800, 600 or nothing at all depending on where the product is going. It really comes down to personal preferences. Personally I like nothing at all.
Hey Bob. We own a mini Lyson extraction line. Our bottleneck is the straining part. After our honey is pumped out of the sump, it travels across room into an 800 micron strainer cloth suspended above a holding tank. The strainer often backs up as it can not keep up with our pump. Does the filtration tanks with filter bags handle more volume before cloaking or backing up? I know Dadant and Mann lake have a filtration canister. Just looking for something different to handle more volume.
Yes, the Mann Lake and Dadant filters will make for a better flow because they work under pressure. The both come with small micron filters though. We order our filter canisters and filter bags from "Rosedale Products".
@@bobbinnie9872 That’s very helpful. So, just one pump pushing it in and out the filtration tank into the holding tank? Doesn’t necessarily need to be positioned above the holding tank. Correct?
Correct. @@jeffbrooks6491
What brand filter and model number do you use on your larger ones? I noticed Mann lake on ur smaller.
I'll try to look at it on Monday. Email me by Monday night if I forget.@@jeffbrooks6491
What type of hose that is connected to the tanks? The white hose.. where do you guys buy it from?
It's reinforced, flexible, food grade vinyl tubing purchased from McMaster-Carr. You can find them online.
Hello. Where can I buy the filling unit with 4 pumps? Best regards!
apexfilling.com/
How do you clean/ wash/ sterilize, the jars?
Our containers come pre washed from the factory and because honey is considered a "safe" food, meaning it won't spoil if packed correctly, we are not required to sterilize the containers. We get inspected on many levels and (state, USDA and third party food safety audit) and they are all happy with what we do. Their main concern is that the empty containers, as they come from the factory, are stored in a clean environment and are not exposed to any kind of contamination.
i have been bottling in my house which is around 70 to 75 degrees. so would it better to bottle in my building where i extract? its stay real warm in the summer in there. i have had my last year honey to crystalize quick. would that help it from crystalizing so quick?
See an article I wrote for "Bee Culture" magazine. The section on "Why Crystallization Occurs" may help. www.beeculture.com/processing-honey-a-closer-look/
Bob Binnie at Blue Ridge Honey Company so I read your article and it sounds like I should bottle where it is warmer. Right?
*Impressive*
Thanks
Bob Binnie at Blue Ridge Honey Company - sent you a couple pints of honey last week from big island Hawaii to your POBox 15 hope you like it. Have 10+ barrels of it if you are interested let me know . Best wishes Bob.
Hi how are you To what degree can honey be heated for packing .
It all depends on how much damage to the enzymes and quality you want to avoid. Some pack at 140°f and some at room temperature. We bottle at 95°f. For more information on this watch our video "The Effects that Processing has on Raw Honey" ua-cam.com/video/owul_Z6ywC4/v-deo.html
That's one serious honey business. I live near Walmart head quarters. I bet you don't like to sell to them they make you wait 3 mo before payment or do you sell to them? Interesting trick pouring sugar water on new added hive sister box. I paper them in.
We do sell to Walmart and so far they have treated us OK.
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At what point can you warm the honey for ease of use and still call it raw honey?
The problem is that even room temperature degrades honey, it just takes longer. It's as much a question of time as it is temperature. We set our bottling tanks at 95f and try not to keep it there very long.
Bob Binnie at Blue Ridge Honey Company thank you for the reply Bob. It’s an interesting subject. The article you wrote was very good👍
do a bear shaped bottle sell better than a regular cylindrical bottle?
Definetly
wow
What jar brand do you use?
Arkansas Glass, Leone, Gamber and others.
Dear Bob
I am from Cambodia (South-east Asia)
We facing the problem of gas in bottle after we bottled them. sometime it exploded during we open the bottle.
Do you have any solution to extract out the air from honey in simple way and cheap.
Warm Regard
Visal
It sounds like your honey has fermented which means there is too much moisture in you honey. See our video "Removing Moisture in Honey before Extracting" ua-cam.com/video/B2-w4P8BPsQ/v-deo.html
Hello sir
Please explain how you maintain heating room temperature. Please also explain how you maintain honey temperature prapostionally to hot water temperature, (mention honey and hot water temperature separate) with heating timing of both honey and water .
We've figured out that the tank of honey will generally be about 10 degrees f cooler than the thermostat setting with the sensor attached to the tank. The hot water heater is set 10 degrees warmer than this and the pump for each tank is cycled on and off by these thermostats to maintain the temperature of the honey at 95f. To see how we warm our honey see our video "How We Warm and Process Honey in Barrels and Totes" ua-cam.com/video/bnwnfoCLjrw/v-deo.html
@@bobbinnie9872
Thank you very much for guidance..
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Did you heat or pasteurize honey ?
We do use some heat but enough to pasteurize.
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Hello.
Where can I buy a honey pump?
Dadant or Mann Lake sells them.
Blue ridge Texas?
Blue Ridge Mountains in Northeast Georgia.
What is the price of the machine??
I I have about $135,000 in the entire setup. This includes the reservoir, feed table, 4 head pouring machine, incoming pump to reservoir, total conveyers, collection table, ink jet lot code machine, cap tightener, labeler and small odds and ends. The labeler and part of the conveyer was purchased used.
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I'd rather have u doing it the old way instead of using a computer system which requires u to keep uploading new programs!!
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Hii I'm a seller of honey sir I want to know sir I firstly I like the process actually I also want this type of process like honey filling please help
We purchase this equipment from. , apexfilling.com/
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