Edging on Perfection: PlayDifferently's Model 1.4 // Deep Dive and Tricks

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  • @Davemech
    @Davemech  4 місяці тому +2

    Courses, presets, samples and more at davemech.live/shop

  • @OoraMusic
    @OoraMusic 3 місяці тому +5

    Great to see more and more live performers working with this amazing mixer

  • @FlynnTaggart23
    @FlynnTaggart23 4 місяці тому +8

    My 1.4 is the last bit of kit I would part with. I really like evolving sounds, the peak means nothing without the build up. The 1.4 really helps me translate that.

  • @Riggleboy
    @Riggleboy 4 місяці тому +3

    Bought the MODEL1 and loved it. Then added the 1.4 as well about 6 months later. 10 channels is perfect. Using the MODEL1 for Ableton samples via Push and hardware synths. MODEL1.4 for drums using both Ableton and a DMRM1. Both returns 1 and 2 on each mixer outs to my eurorack which is used for effects.

    • @nagchumpalot
      @nagchumpalot 4 місяці тому +2

      So what your saying is we need a producers Model 16! Thats what I would love..

  • @kiqidj
    @kiqidj 12 днів тому +1

    Nice one, Dave!

  • @Judasz696
    @Judasz696 4 місяці тому +1

    Whats rly important on this mixer that it can handle even eurorack signal levels and doesnt add any perceived noise to the signal. It has high headroom and even when you clip and discord its more pleasant then on other dj mixers. Good performance control. Very good for drum machines and synths. I would rly love master input for master fx .

  • @blackboxorchestra
    @blackboxorchestra 3 місяці тому +3

    Awesome video - I caught a peek of the Otto Boum in the background… Curious where you put that in the effect/output chain. The Boum + Model 1 Drive per Channel, Filter, and EQ put in me in a hole for months re listening to gear clipped out. I haven’t used Boum on an effect send, but thought maybe Cue B might be an interesting way to use it more as an effect than on Master Outs

    • @Davemech
      @Davemech  3 місяці тому +1

      Thank you 🙏 currently I have Boum into IMC on the main out. Might seem overkill but that together with the drive on the model gives a very raw yet loud and glued mix. Boum is used in parallel mode as in, wet mixed gently with the dry signal. To me that’s where boum really shines the most. And I can make things as crunchy as I like during a live performance.
      Cheers

  • @boogway
    @boogway 4 місяці тому +3

    Had the full sized model 1. Sounds amazing and love the filters, but wanted a real EQ, more inputs, and the cables were a bit of a pain for a synth setup. Switched to an SSL Big 6 which felt like a step backwards. Switched from that to two blue boxes for tons of inputs and flexibility in the smallest footprint and never looked back

    • @Davemech
      @Davemech  4 місяці тому +3

      Had bluebox but not my cup of tea. I need hands on controls for a mixer :). Both big six and model 1.4 are perfect for what I use them for. Big six is my main studio mixer. The connectivity to daw is unparalleled so far.
      But of course whatever floats one’s boat is all good :)

    • @eyesintheskies
      @eyesintheskies 17 днів тому

      My blue box is an RME with iPad & total fx/mix bit bulkier but happy with it.
      The black box intrigues me though 🤔

    • @boogway
      @boogway 17 днів тому

      @@eyesintheskies that's bulkier and much more expensive if you have 12 channels in your RME (unless you're running optical out into it from a cheaper unit). bluebox is much more performative and hands on than any DAW mixer, similar to an analog console. blackbox is really cool too though and outshines nearly every sampler and looper despite being 5 years old at this point

    • @eyesintheskies
      @eyesintheskies 17 днів тому

      @@boogway woah not dissing it!
      Im just working with ios only, so it works out well for me, but yeh bulkier its my main interface though . Hoping to expand with adat at some point then fully integrate my mixer .
      But for portable live setup i can imagine the blueboxes are a pretty nifty setup.
      Whatever works best for your needs & taste right 👍
      Was tempted by the big six but it doesn't integrate with ipad as smoothly thought it was cheaper (already had ipad) but by the time ive added a decent adat exp. bought the same. 🤦

    • @boogway
      @boogway 17 днів тому

      @@eyesintheskies Yea I respect that. Would be cooler if the big six had adat. It’s a shame the bluebox only does stereo master over USB so I also have a babyface pro fs for my main setup and use a teenage engineering tx-6 if I need more channels or I’m on the go. Tx-6 is surprisingly cool and useful even though it gets a lot of shit online

  • @willemvanwanrooij
    @willemvanwanrooij 2 місяці тому

    Ik heb er een gekocht Dave! Dit filmpje was voor mij de druppel. Toptutorial, topding! Dank!

    • @Davemech
      @Davemech  2 місяці тому

      Nice ! Have fun :)

  • @LATRONNIK
    @LATRONNIK 3 місяці тому +1

    i wish these mixers wouldve come with a soundcard onboard like the v10

  • @mindstuff417
    @mindstuff417 2 дні тому +1

    Nice review Dave. I've been using this mixer for 6 months now but wanted to watch your review to learn anything I didn't know already (which I did). I use my sends for stereo distortion units which really spices things up :).

  • @blacklodgegames
    @blacklodgegames Місяць тому

    I know it would change the internals a lot, but I wish this had a sound card like the xone 96.

    • @Davemech
      @Davemech  Місяць тому +1

      Would've been nice. But there's not even room for an internal PSU so myeah ;)

  • @bikesbeersbeats
    @bikesbeersbeats 4 місяці тому

    That zero crossing detection really confused me when the model 1 first came out. Both the retailer and I thought the mixer was faulty and we returned 3 mixers before someone read the manual and explained this is how its meant to be 🤣 it also speaks to the fact the mixer is made for pro use and meant to be driven loud. Not really an issue anymore as I know how to use it but it wasnt obvious. I also really love the size of the 1.4.
    One thing I did discover is the zero crossing detection only senses on one of the channel inputs, so if you arent using the correct input it wont click off/on.

  • @stevebenois5143
    @stevebenois5143 4 місяці тому +1

    A more detailed video of the full setup would also be nice... For what is the push used for instance? Do a more extended jam with..if you feel like doing so off course 🙂

    • @Davemech
      @Davemech  4 місяці тому +1

      Part of a recording of a live set where I use this setup will be released on YT on 2 weeks :) I use it in a new collaboration project with another live act.

  • @slavasoloma
    @slavasoloma 4 місяці тому +1

    Love mine as well ! Hope you are doing well after Superbooth!

    • @Davemech
      @Davemech  4 місяці тому

      Cheers mate ! Yeap doing well thank you :)

  • @AlexanderCook87
    @AlexanderCook87 4 місяці тому +5

    Would love if it had a sound card. Taking a mixer anywhere is an ordeal taking a soundcard as well is too much. Sounds great and i love the mixing style vs traditional band EQ mixing. The master filter alone is pretty awesome.

    • @Davemech
      @Davemech  4 місяці тому

      Yeah would have been nice but that would have changed quite a bit about what it is though. And the size.

    • @CEMeier
      @CEMeier 4 місяці тому +1

      I watched until the mentioning of all of the audio interface connections. At that point I just wanted to buy Dave a Xone 96

    • @Davemech
      @Davemech  4 місяці тому

      @@CEMeierlol I had a xone 96 on two occasions actually. (See my reviews on that). Very different mixer and it doesn’t actually provide more connections. The c and d channels are not very useful for my application. It’s also much larger than the 1.4 ;). The audio interface plus 1.4 is quite compact. The mixing experience is also very different of course which is the biggest reason I went for the 1.4 this time. Not to say zone 96 isn’t a great mixer. It’s an amazing piece of kit for sure.
      Basically, I could not do what I do now with a 96. ADAT on the interface gives me 8 in and 8 out extra on push 3. So you might want to keep watching 😄

    • @Ahlynsky
      @Ahlynsky 4 місяці тому

      word on the street is you can tap a signal before the sends if you have the stomach for it.

    • @CEMeier
      @CEMeier 4 місяці тому +1

      @@Davemech is that basically due to the sends not being available on the xone 96 audio interface/usb? I got rid of mine for that reason.
      I never understood why the returns were inputs on the audio interface but not the sends.
      --
      Great video. I loved how the master filter reduced the resonance at lower frequencies.

  • @simiimis2057
    @simiimis2057 4 місяці тому +2

    I am so confused, how did you get that awesome Perkons finish? I already thought you abandoned it... maybe you just didn't like the color right? 😅

    • @Davemech
      @Davemech  4 місяці тому +1

      Yeah custom order :) have been using perkons a lot ever since I got the blue one when it was released. Currently my main instrument in a collab setup that you can see in this video

    • @simiimis2057
      @simiimis2057 4 місяці тому +1

      Wow, didn't know they do that. I am so much looking forward to hearing that setup live 😊

  • @hosedog99
    @hosedog99 4 місяці тому +1

    I love everything about the Model 1.4 except the size. I am trying hard to keep my rig on one pedalboard. Do you know of any small, analog filters out there that would sound great on just the main stereo channel?

    • @Davemech
      @Davemech  3 місяці тому +1

      Analog heat :)

  • @mickolos
    @mickolos 4 місяці тому +1

    How does it compare to the DB4? And how can you live without it's features for your live performances?

    • @Davemech
      @Davemech  4 місяці тому +2

      Incomparable really. Totally different in every single aspect. The setup I show in this video is completely different from my other setup. This setup will mainly be used in a collaborative project I’m working on with a mate. For my solo project I went back to my Elektron + db4 setup.

  • @WTF-og4kj
    @WTF-og4kj 3 місяці тому +1

    Hi Dave, great demo. I know its off topic but I was just wondering do you still use your DB4? Also in your professional opinion do you thin k it still advisable to own one even though A&H doesn't support it anymore? Are there any bugs or issue that you can share after all these years? Thank you in advance.

    • @Davemech
      @Davemech  3 місяці тому

      I do still have it but it’s not in use currently. But I’m definitely keeping it. It’s a unique mixer.
      The audio card side of the thing is basically unusable currently. However ploytech is releasing a little hardware kit to make to have the sound card compatible with latest OS versions. They have a kickstarter going !
      Db4 doesn’t have any bugs in terms of normal operation. It works pretty much flawlessly.

  • @michaurban5664
    @michaurban5664 3 місяці тому +1

    Hi Dave,
    What mic have you used in this video? The voice is great.

    • @Davemech
      @Davemech  3 місяці тому

      I use a Rode NTG4+ going through a channel on the SSL big six with eq and compression applied and some further eqing in daw. It’s a pretty good mic, and with processing applied to suit your voice it works great 👍

  • @quantum_ocean
    @quantum_ocean 2 місяці тому +9

    I edged to this for 4 hours.

  • @dithernet_music
    @dithernet_music 2 місяці тому +1

    GAS!

  • @xaosm_os
    @xaosm_os 4 місяці тому

    DJ Dave Mech, would you agree that this unit is at least inspired partially on the Xone DB4? Mixing with filters, also accomplishable in Xone 92 but the DB4 expands on that by filters per channel besides the 2 usual bottom rotarys. Speaking of which i would loooveee a DB4 mk2, with aux send return (1 or 2 pairs of stereo), + jack + rca outputs would make it a DJ/Live/Studio highly adaptable mixer of all trades.

    • @Davemech
      @Davemech  4 місяці тому +1

      Don’t think so. But who knows :). I think it stems more from missing synthesizers using their filters. And the parametric eq in the middle is quite usual on many mixers though they made this much more focused.
      Yeah a db4 mkii would be an instant buy for me. But I’m very doubtful it will ever happen honestly….

  • @Funky1ism
    @Funky1ism 4 місяці тому

    Only thing what is stopping me, is those fader curves, hated them on the Xone 92, so untill they make this with linear curves its not for me.

  • @nodouno7214
    @nodouno7214 2 місяці тому

    extremadamente costosa para las prestaciones

  • @daftdj123
    @daftdj123 4 місяці тому

    Thank you for this review. I thought mine has to be serviced because I noticed a phasing issue on the master filter when boosting the resonance in the lows but I see yours behave the same way. I guess it's because the analog filter process the right and left channel in a slightly different way maybe... strange though 🥲

    • @Davemech
      @Davemech  4 місяці тому +1

      Hmm yeah but I haven’t found it to be an issue really. I happily boost the lows sometimes when I need the kick to be a bit more thumpy and it sounds great in my studio. Also in mono.

  • @peladoclaus
    @peladoclaus День тому +1

    This is dope. When are we getting some .ore performance vids??

  • @Manmademadman
    @Manmademadman 4 місяці тому +5

    This is great! Much better than the overview I did of the MODEL1! Nice work!

  • @nomasters
    @nomasters 4 місяці тому +4

    I have zero interest in buying or using a mixer like this, but I've just sat and watched you talk about it for half an hour...
    Which either means your video is awesome or it's time to go outside and look at some trees for me again...
    I'll go with the former, it's pretty cold outside.
    Also making me seriously regret selling my Pērkons.

    • @Davemech
      @Davemech  Місяць тому

      Late reply, thanks for the lovely comment ;) Hope by now you managed to go outside though

  • @alexg8957
    @alexg8957 4 місяці тому +2

    Lovely review man! I have own the Model 1.4 in the past, using just media players and turntables and I enjoy it so much! Considering in buy it again. What is stopping me are the stupid fader curves. Not progressive at all! Any bad experiences there?

  • @tendingtropic7778
    @tendingtropic7778 4 місяці тому +3

    finally! you've been promising this review for a long time, started out with a model 1 though. why now the 1.4?

    • @Davemech
      @Davemech  4 місяці тому +3

      The model 1 I got was a lone. Had a bit of a rough year and it wasn’t meant to be at that time. Fast forward I came up with the idea for this setup, and the model 1.4 was a perfect fit for it so I bought that.

  • @isotoxin
    @isotoxin 3 місяці тому +3

    It is nice to find another one Model1 user in the wild. 😎

    • @kiqidj
      @kiqidj 12 днів тому +2

      Always :)

  • @VINYLCRATE
    @VINYLCRATE Місяць тому

    Dope mixer. Just wished my decals weren't coming off within a year.

  • @robvanerp5766
    @robvanerp5766 4 місяці тому +1

    Been using the Model 1 mixer for a few years now, still the best i heard and used in a long time, i also used the db4 before, ( still a beast after all this years ) the model 1 offers of course 2 channels more and u can use the Cue b as an extra though basic send and return, because there are a few more connections on the back, so also the cue b can be routed thru the dsub cables into the audio interface and into ableton, there is also an extra master out.
    the only problem i have with the mixer is the face plate and the print on there, the letters fade really quick, so if u decide to buy one, maks sure u cover the face plate to prevent wear.

  • @actitect
    @actitect 4 місяці тому +1

    Great vid, very insightful and practical.

  • @xsm5525
    @xsm5525 3 місяці тому

    is this mixer good for the genre 'hardgroove techno' ?

    • @Davemech
      @Davemech  3 місяці тому +2

      To me a mixer is not bound to a genre. It’s a tool that can help you mix in a way that you would like to hear. Best to try it out 👍

  • @byronamerson
    @byronamerson 2 місяці тому +1

    Thanks for the nice review and use case presentation, Dave. Sort of off topic, but I would welcome some information about how you contend with latency in the Send/Return path with Push/Ableton as your effects unit (assuming Perkons is going to Ableton for the delay, for instance) during live performance versus recording your performance.

    • @Davemech
      @Davemech  2 місяці тому +1

      There's a bit of latency through ADAT but it's manageable. It's quite important to check what plugins are used inside push and how much latency they add but most Ableton stock plugins and max4live devices don't add any latency. What I did yo compensate the latency from perkons (or any external hardware) to push through the adat interface is add a track delay (or use align delay) on all tracks that are not external ins of 14ms. Makes it right as can be. For the send/return effects from model 1.4 to push and back I used audio tracks rather than using the return channels in push because that added more latency. Hope that helped 👍 cheers

  • @arenreiser3643
    @arenreiser3643 4 місяці тому +1

    I just sold mine for a Modular Synth.... I miss it so much for the Sound Quality. I think the Headphones preamps must be soo good too.

    • @el_dani
      @el_dani 4 місяці тому

      I'm actually doing the opposite. Maybe you'll return one day, when you have enough of the spaghetti and want immediacy in your workflow (or you're the next Colin Benders)

  • @tendingtropic7778
    @tendingtropic7778 4 місяці тому +2

    what audio interface are you using? sounds like it has a lot of I/O

    • @Davemech
      @Davemech  4 місяці тому +2

      MOTU Ultralite mk5. Great bang for buck!

    • @el_dani
      @el_dani 4 місяці тому

      @@Davemech yeah, 4 stereo channels and 2 return channels, are like 12 audio outputs, that's more then the usual 8+2 🤔

    • @Davemech
      @Davemech  4 місяці тому

      @@el_dani it has 10 out and 8 in from the top of my head. I’m also using the main out and headphone out from push.

    • @el_dani
      @el_dani 4 місяці тому

      @@Davemech oh, yes I forgot about the Push's audio outputs - I'll probaly feed the Cue B to Push 3 input for sampling, if I'll get into this similar setup (still waiting for the funds growing 😅)

    • @nagchumpalot
      @nagchumpalot 3 місяці тому

      @@Davemech I use the MOTU MK5 with my SSL SIX but I´m seriously considering getting the Big Six I was wondering how do the Big Six convertors sound compared to the MK5? I just want to know they are on par with the Ultralite they don't have to be better.

  • @JohnDoe-yr5tg
    @JohnDoe-yr5tg Місяць тому

    Have you used the dsub on the back as I’m interested in buying one but how would you hook the mixer up if you wanted to track Ableton and hardware with it recording all back into your DAW it’s a bit confusing or do you just run it standalone

    • @Davemech
      @Davemech  Місяць тому

      You need an audio interface for that. Then you can run dsub to that audio interface. I'm using the motu ultralite in this case. So dsub splitter cable to 8 mono jacks I to audio interface and then through USB to the computer ( in my case through ADAT to push 3)

    • @JohnDoe-yr5tg
      @JohnDoe-yr5tg Місяць тому

      @@Davemech I have an Apollo which has 8 inputs I got the daub cable so is it best to output to the inputs on the Apollo of to send inputs into it from my daw I can’t work out the best way to then track it back inside my daw with my octatrack and digitakt

  • @el_dani
    @el_dani 4 місяці тому +1

    Great insight in this very interesting workflow - only question: How do you sync this setup with your Push 3 and the external sequencers?

    • @Davemech
      @Davemech  4 місяці тому

      Midi out from push into digitone midi in. Midi thru from digitone to perkons midi in.

    • @el_dani
      @el_dani 4 місяці тому

      @@Davemech wow, without hickups? I didn't get any stable clock out of it, the displays on Elektrons where always oscillating in like +-2 bpm - thanks for the answer - maybe I'll ask later more for the Push 3 (internal) setup, but I'll give Ableton some more time to polish it (not to say the word finish)

    • @Davemech
      @Davemech  4 місяці тому

      @@el_dani that’s just usual read out jitter. It’s not audible ;) you even get that when syncing between Elektrons

    • @el_dani
      @el_dani 4 місяці тому +1

      @@Davemech yeah, but on Elektrons or other hardware (like Multiclock) it's like +- 0.2 and not in the full digits - but good to know when it's not audible

  • @nagchumpalot
    @nagchumpalot 4 місяці тому

    Yeah Model 1s are great mixers! but right now I´m getting very interested in the Rodec MX modular mixers I saw at Super booth.. It was very interesting not cheap but wicked good! Also what are your Focal Headphones that you're using?

  • @eyesintheskies
    @eyesintheskies 23 дні тому

    Using this one as an incentive to completely overhaul my studio so I’ve got the space for it!

  • @williamwallace6508
    @williamwallace6508 2 місяці тому

    Isnt the model 1 much better for hardware setups? 4 channels is limiting

    • @Davemech
      @Davemech  2 місяці тому

      Depends on your setup ;) for my setup it has the perfect amount of channels as explained in the video. However i might add the model 1 for a 10 channel setup eventually for a project I'm working on with a mate. For now the 1.4 is perfect. Cheerio

    • @williamwallace6508
      @williamwallace6508 2 місяці тому

      @@Davemech
      This is perfect 90% of the time for me also tbh! The only other one is the 96? Whats your comment on that. Im hardware only btw. Sampler which i use a lot, a perkons, a few polys and a mono . Thanks for comments :)

    • @Davemech
      @Davemech  2 місяці тому

      ​@@williamwallace650896 is really nice as well. It's quite big though. That's another nice thing about the 1.4: it's really compact for a dj style mixer. But the 96 is also nice. It has a master insert which is great. And the return channels are full featured. I also have a couple of review videos about the 96 on my channel 👍 cheers !

  • @peterbakker9531
    @peterbakker9531 4 місяці тому +1

    Which audio interface do you use in this set up?

    • @Davemech
      @Davemech  4 місяці тому

      MOTU Ultralite mk5

    • @peterbakker9531
      @peterbakker9531 4 місяці тому

      @@Davemech how did you connect the dsub from model 1.4 to the MOTU??

    • @Davemech
      @Davemech  4 місяці тому +2

      @@peterbakker9531dsub to 8x balanced jack cable

    • @closerau
      @closerau 4 місяці тому

      @@Davemechhow are you getting the sound from push/ableton back into the mixer? I have model 1.4 but use ableton master fx and when I do that I cannot get the master fx back out into the model 1.4. Do I need to go from the input of motu back into a channel on model 1.4?

    • @Davemech
      @Davemech  4 місяці тому

      @@closerauI’m using the direct main out from push and headphone output to the return channels in this case as ADAT only supports 8 in 8 out from and to push.

  • @hollownation
    @hollownation 4 місяці тому

    Is that Perkons white did you get it custom?

    • @Davemech
      @Davemech  4 місяці тому +1

      Yeap it is. Custom indeed

    • @hollownation
      @hollownation 4 місяці тому +1

      @@Davemech I thought there was something wrong with my eyes 😂

    • @Davemech
      @Davemech  4 місяці тому

      @@hollownation😅

  • @Bibblebabbler
    @Bibblebabbler 3 місяці тому

    I swapped the model 1 for the xone 96 due to the built in sound card.
    Abelton works better for me with it.

    • @Davemech
      @Davemech  3 місяці тому

      Certainly works great as well 👍