Bought the MODEL1 and loved it. Then added the 1.4 as well about 6 months later. 10 channels is perfect. Using the MODEL1 for Ableton samples via Push and hardware synths. MODEL1.4 for drums using both Ableton and a DMRM1. Both returns 1 and 2 on each mixer outs to my eurorack which is used for effects.
My 1.4 is the last bit of kit I would part with. I really like evolving sounds, the peak means nothing without the build up. The 1.4 really helps me translate that.
Nice review Dave. I've been using this mixer for 6 months now but wanted to watch your review to learn anything I didn't know already (which I did). I use my sends for stereo distortion units which really spices things up :).
Been using the Model 1 mixer for a few years now, still the best i heard and used in a long time, i also used the db4 before, ( still a beast after all this years ) the model 1 offers of course 2 channels more and u can use the Cue b as an extra though basic send and return, because there are a few more connections on the back, so also the cue b can be routed thru the dsub cables into the audio interface and into ableton, there is also an extra master out. the only problem i have with the mixer is the face plate and the print on there, the letters fade really quick, so if u decide to buy one, maks sure u cover the face plate to prevent wear.
I have zero interest in buying or using a mixer like this, but I've just sat and watched you talk about it for half an hour... Which either means your video is awesome or it's time to go outside and look at some trees for me again... I'll go with the former, it's pretty cold outside. Also making me seriously regret selling my Pērkons.
Lovely review man! I have own the Model 1.4 in the past, using just media players and turntables and I enjoy it so much! Considering in buy it again. What is stopping me are the stupid fader curves. Not progressive at all! Any bad experiences there?
Had the full sized model 1. Sounds amazing and love the filters, but wanted a real EQ, more inputs, and the cables were a bit of a pain for a synth setup. Switched to an SSL Big 6 which felt like a step backwards. Switched from that to two blue boxes for tons of inputs and flexibility in the smallest footprint and never looked back
Had bluebox but not my cup of tea. I need hands on controls for a mixer :). Both big six and model 1.4 are perfect for what I use them for. Big six is my main studio mixer. The connectivity to daw is unparalleled so far. But of course whatever floats one’s boat is all good :)
@@eyesintheskies that's bulkier and much more expensive if you have 12 channels in your RME (unless you're running optical out into it from a cheaper unit). bluebox is much more performative and hands on than any DAW mixer, similar to an analog console. blackbox is really cool too though and outshines nearly every sampler and looper despite being 5 years old at this point
@@boogway woah not dissing it! Im just working with ios only, so it works out well for me, but yeh bulkier its my main interface though . Hoping to expand with adat at some point then fully integrate my mixer . But for portable live setup i can imagine the blueboxes are a pretty nifty setup. Whatever works best for your needs & taste right 👍 Was tempted by the big six but it doesn't integrate with ipad as smoothly thought it was cheaper (already had ipad) but by the time ive added a decent adat exp. bought the same. 🤦
@@eyesintheskies Yea I respect that. Would be cooler if the big six had adat. It’s a shame the bluebox only does stereo master over USB so I also have a babyface pro fs for my main setup and use a teenage engineering tx-6 if I need more channels or I’m on the go. Tx-6 is surprisingly cool and useful even though it gets a lot of shit online
Whats rly important on this mixer that it can handle even eurorack signal levels and doesnt add any perceived noise to the signal. It has high headroom and even when you clip and discord its more pleasant then on other dj mixers. Good performance control. Very good for drum machines and synths. I would rly love master input for master fx .
Awesome video - I caught a peek of the Otto Boum in the background… Curious where you put that in the effect/output chain. The Boum + Model 1 Drive per Channel, Filter, and EQ put in me in a hole for months re listening to gear clipped out. I haven’t used Boum on an effect send, but thought maybe Cue B might be an interesting way to use it more as an effect than on Master Outs
Thank you 🙏 currently I have Boum into IMC on the main out. Might seem overkill but that together with the drive on the model gives a very raw yet loud and glued mix. Boum is used in parallel mode as in, wet mixed gently with the dry signal. To me that’s where boum really shines the most. And I can make things as crunchy as I like during a live performance. Cheers
Thanks for the nice review and use case presentation, Dave. Sort of off topic, but I would welcome some information about how you contend with latency in the Send/Return path with Push/Ableton as your effects unit (assuming Perkons is going to Ableton for the delay, for instance) during live performance versus recording your performance.
There's a bit of latency through ADAT but it's manageable. It's quite important to check what plugins are used inside push and how much latency they add but most Ableton stock plugins and max4live devices don't add any latency. What I did yo compensate the latency from perkons (or any external hardware) to push through the adat interface is add a track delay (or use align delay) on all tracks that are not external ins of 14ms. Makes it right as can be. For the send/return effects from model 1.4 to push and back I used audio tracks rather than using the return channels in push because that added more latency. Hope that helped 👍 cheers
That zero crossing detection really confused me when the model 1 first came out. Both the retailer and I thought the mixer was faulty and we returned 3 mixers before someone read the manual and explained this is how its meant to be 🤣 it also speaks to the fact the mixer is made for pro use and meant to be driven loud. Not really an issue anymore as I know how to use it but it wasnt obvious. I also really love the size of the 1.4. One thing I did discover is the zero crossing detection only senses on one of the channel inputs, so if you arent using the correct input it wont click off/on.
Hi Dave, great demo. I know its off topic but I was just wondering do you still use your DB4? Also in your professional opinion do you thin k it still advisable to own one even though A&H doesn't support it anymore? Are there any bugs or issue that you can share after all these years? Thank you in advance.
I do still have it but it’s not in use currently. But I’m definitely keeping it. It’s a unique mixer. The audio card side of the thing is basically unusable currently. However ploytech is releasing a little hardware kit to make to have the sound card compatible with latest OS versions. They have a kickstarter going ! Db4 doesn’t have any bugs in terms of normal operation. It works pretty much flawlessly.
@@charlymadea_official hey, that’s not going to work. Not enough ins/outs on the motu. I’m also using all the outputs on the push to make this work. You’d need a larger audio interface with the model 1
A more detailed video of the full setup would also be nice... For what is the push used for instance? Do a more extended jam with..if you feel like doing so off course 🙂
Part of a recording of a live set where I use this setup will be released on YT on 2 weeks :) I use it in a new collaboration project with another live act.
I love everything about the Model 1.4 except the size. I am trying hard to keep my rig on one pedalboard. Do you know of any small, analog filters out there that would sound great on just the main stereo channel?
Hey sir appreciate the video. Do you know if the mixer can connect with RME UCXII, which only seems to have 9 pin d-sub, through maybe a 25 to 9 pin adapter by any chance? Thanks 🙏
Yeah custom order :) have been using perkons a lot ever since I got the blue one when it was released. Currently my main instrument in a collab setup that you can see in this video
Yeah Model 1s are great mixers! but right now I´m getting very interested in the Rodec MX modular mixers I saw at Super booth.. It was very interesting not cheap but wicked good! Also what are your Focal Headphones that you're using?
The model 1 I got was a lone. Had a bit of a rough year and it wasn’t meant to be at that time. Fast forward I came up with the idea for this setup, and the model 1.4 was a perfect fit for it so I bought that.
I use a Rode NTG4+ going through a channel on the SSL big six with eq and compression applied and some further eqing in daw. It’s a pretty good mic, and with processing applied to suit your voice it works great 👍
I'm actually doing the opposite. Maybe you'll return one day, when you have enough of the spaghetti and want immediacy in your workflow (or you're the next Colin Benders)
@@Davemech wow, without hickups? I didn't get any stable clock out of it, the displays on Elektrons where always oscillating in like +-2 bpm - thanks for the answer - maybe I'll ask later more for the Push 3 (internal) setup, but I'll give Ableton some more time to polish it (not to say the word finish)
@@Davemech yeah, but on Elektrons or other hardware (like Multiclock) it's like +- 0.2 and not in the full digits - but good to know when it's not audible
Incomparable really. Totally different in every single aspect. The setup I show in this video is completely different from my other setup. This setup will mainly be used in a collaborative project I’m working on with a mate. For my solo project I went back to my Elektron + db4 setup.
DJ Dave Mech, would you agree that this unit is at least inspired partially on the Xone DB4? Mixing with filters, also accomplishable in Xone 92 but the DB4 expands on that by filters per channel besides the 2 usual bottom rotarys. Speaking of which i would loooveee a DB4 mk2, with aux send return (1 or 2 pairs of stereo), + jack + rca outputs would make it a DJ/Live/Studio highly adaptable mixer of all trades.
Don’t think so. But who knows :). I think it stems more from missing synthesizers using their filters. And the parametric eq in the middle is quite usual on many mixers though they made this much more focused. Yeah a db4 mkii would be an instant buy for me. But I’m very doubtful it will ever happen honestly….
Have you used the dsub on the back as I’m interested in buying one but how would you hook the mixer up if you wanted to track Ableton and hardware with it recording all back into your DAW it’s a bit confusing or do you just run it standalone
You need an audio interface for that. Then you can run dsub to that audio interface. I'm using the motu ultralite in this case. So dsub splitter cable to 8 mono jacks I to audio interface and then through USB to the computer ( in my case through ADAT to push 3)
@@Davemech I have an Apollo which has 8 inputs I got the daub cable so is it best to output to the inputs on the Apollo of to send inputs into it from my daw I can’t work out the best way to then track it back inside my daw with my octatrack and digitakt
@@Davemech oh, yes I forgot about the Push's audio outputs - I'll probaly feed the Cue B to Push 3 input for sampling, if I'll get into this similar setup (still waiting for the funds growing 😅)
@@Davemech I use the MOTU MK5 with my SSL SIX but I´m seriously considering getting the Big Six I was wondering how do the Big Six convertors sound compared to the MK5? I just want to know they are on par with the Ultralite they don't have to be better.
Would love if it had a sound card. Taking a mixer anywhere is an ordeal taking a soundcard as well is too much. Sounds great and i love the mixing style vs traditional band EQ mixing. The master filter alone is pretty awesome.
@@CEMeierlol I had a xone 96 on two occasions actually. (See my reviews on that). Very different mixer and it doesn’t actually provide more connections. The c and d channels are not very useful for my application. It’s also much larger than the 1.4 ;). The audio interface plus 1.4 is quite compact. The mixing experience is also very different of course which is the biggest reason I went for the 1.4 this time. Not to say zone 96 isn’t a great mixer. It’s an amazing piece of kit for sure. Basically, I could not do what I do now with a 96. ADAT on the interface gives me 8 in and 8 out extra on push 3. So you might want to keep watching 😄
@@Davemech is that basically due to the sends not being available on the xone 96 audio interface/usb? I got rid of mine for that reason. I never understood why the returns were inputs on the audio interface but not the sends. -- Great video. I loved how the master filter reduced the resonance at lower frequencies.
@@Davemechhow are you getting the sound from push/ableton back into the mixer? I have model 1.4 but use ableton master fx and when I do that I cannot get the master fx back out into the model 1.4. Do I need to go from the input of motu back into a channel on model 1.4?
@@closerauI’m using the direct main out from push and headphone output to the return channels in this case as ADAT only supports 8 in 8 out from and to push.
Yeah. Mate of mine used to have one and we used it during jam sessions 10 years ago. Very flimsy build quality though and a lot of stuff broke on it (notably the fx touch pad thing). Nice functionality but would not dare to use it in a live rig for that reason unfortunately
I used a zero 4, a bit more reliable than the 8 as didn't have the touchscreen but build quality was questionable. Though it was way ahead of its time. I liked the easy switch of fx/midi for every channel plus you could choose between different eq's or filters also. That and a soundcard built in.
@@badfoot yeah indeed. It was way ahead of its time. Similar to done db4. Unfortunate not enough people knew what to do with it. Would have loved to see a zero 4/8 in current times with solid quality build :)
Depends on your setup ;) for my setup it has the perfect amount of channels as explained in the video. However i might add the model 1 for a 10 channel setup eventually for a project I'm working on with a mate. For now the 1.4 is perfect. Cheerio
@@Davemech This is perfect 90% of the time for me also tbh! The only other one is the 96? Whats your comment on that. Im hardware only btw. Sampler which i use a lot, a perkons, a few polys and a mono . Thanks for comments :)
@@williamwallace650896 is really nice as well. It's quite big though. That's another nice thing about the 1.4: it's really compact for a dj style mixer. But the 96 is also nice. It has a master insert which is great. And the return channels are full featured. I also have a couple of review videos about the 96 on my channel 👍 cheers !
Thank you for this review. I thought mine has to be serviced because I noticed a phasing issue on the master filter when boosting the resonance in the lows but I see yours behave the same way. I guess it's because the analog filter process the right and left channel in a slightly different way maybe... strange though 🥲
Hmm yeah but I haven’t found it to be an issue really. I happily boost the lows sometimes when I need the kick to be a bit more thumpy and it sounds great in my studio. Also in mono.
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Great to see more and more live performers working with this amazing mixer
Bought the MODEL1 and loved it. Then added the 1.4 as well about 6 months later. 10 channels is perfect. Using the MODEL1 for Ableton samples via Push and hardware synths. MODEL1.4 for drums using both Ableton and a DMRM1. Both returns 1 and 2 on each mixer outs to my eurorack which is used for effects.
So what your saying is we need a producers Model 16! Thats what I would love..
My 1.4 is the last bit of kit I would part with. I really like evolving sounds, the peak means nothing without the build up. The 1.4 really helps me translate that.
Using this one as an incentive to completely overhaul my studio so I’ve got the space for it!
yes, get rid of the 16 channels plus mixers and concentrate on a few instruments to master them!
Nice review Dave. I've been using this mixer for 6 months now but wanted to watch your review to learn anything I didn't know already (which I did). I use my sends for stereo distortion units which really spices things up :).
This is great! Much better than the overview I did of the MODEL1! Nice work!
Thank you!
Been using the Model 1 mixer for a few years now, still the best i heard and used in a long time, i also used the db4 before, ( still a beast after all this years ) the model 1 offers of course 2 channels more and u can use the Cue b as an extra though basic send and return, because there are a few more connections on the back, so also the cue b can be routed thru the dsub cables into the audio interface and into ableton, there is also an extra master out.
the only problem i have with the mixer is the face plate and the print on there, the letters fade really quick, so if u decide to buy one, maks sure u cover the face plate to prevent wear.
I have zero interest in buying or using a mixer like this, but I've just sat and watched you talk about it for half an hour...
Which either means your video is awesome or it's time to go outside and look at some trees for me again...
I'll go with the former, it's pretty cold outside.
Also making me seriously regret selling my Pērkons.
Late reply, thanks for the lovely comment ;) Hope by now you managed to go outside though
Lovely review man! I have own the Model 1.4 in the past, using just media players and turntables and I enjoy it so much! Considering in buy it again. What is stopping me are the stupid fader curves. Not progressive at all! Any bad experiences there?
It is nice to find another one Model1 user in the wild. 😎
Always :)
Had the full sized model 1. Sounds amazing and love the filters, but wanted a real EQ, more inputs, and the cables were a bit of a pain for a synth setup. Switched to an SSL Big 6 which felt like a step backwards. Switched from that to two blue boxes for tons of inputs and flexibility in the smallest footprint and never looked back
Had bluebox but not my cup of tea. I need hands on controls for a mixer :). Both big six and model 1.4 are perfect for what I use them for. Big six is my main studio mixer. The connectivity to daw is unparalleled so far.
But of course whatever floats one’s boat is all good :)
My blue box is an RME with iPad & total fx/mix bit bulkier but happy with it.
The black box intrigues me though 🤔
@@eyesintheskies that's bulkier and much more expensive if you have 12 channels in your RME (unless you're running optical out into it from a cheaper unit). bluebox is much more performative and hands on than any DAW mixer, similar to an analog console. blackbox is really cool too though and outshines nearly every sampler and looper despite being 5 years old at this point
@@boogway woah not dissing it!
Im just working with ios only, so it works out well for me, but yeh bulkier its my main interface though . Hoping to expand with adat at some point then fully integrate my mixer .
But for portable live setup i can imagine the blueboxes are a pretty nifty setup.
Whatever works best for your needs & taste right 👍
Was tempted by the big six but it doesn't integrate with ipad as smoothly thought it was cheaper (already had ipad) but by the time ive added a decent adat exp. bought the same. 🤦
@@eyesintheskies Yea I respect that. Would be cooler if the big six had adat. It’s a shame the bluebox only does stereo master over USB so I also have a babyface pro fs for my main setup and use a teenage engineering tx-6 if I need more channels or I’m on the go. Tx-6 is surprisingly cool and useful even though it gets a lot of shit online
Whats rly important on this mixer that it can handle even eurorack signal levels and doesnt add any perceived noise to the signal. It has high headroom and even when you clip and discord its more pleasant then on other dj mixers. Good performance control. Very good for drum machines and synths. I would rly love master input for master fx .
Why not just put master fx after the main out, what's the use of master insert?
@el_dani yeah ofc you can.
Ik heb er een gekocht Dave! Dit filmpje was voor mij de druppel. Toptutorial, topding! Dank!
Nice ! Have fun :)
Awesome video - I caught a peek of the Otto Boum in the background… Curious where you put that in the effect/output chain. The Boum + Model 1 Drive per Channel, Filter, and EQ put in me in a hole for months re listening to gear clipped out. I haven’t used Boum on an effect send, but thought maybe Cue B might be an interesting way to use it more as an effect than on Master Outs
Thank you 🙏 currently I have Boum into IMC on the main out. Might seem overkill but that together with the drive on the model gives a very raw yet loud and glued mix. Boum is used in parallel mode as in, wet mixed gently with the dry signal. To me that’s where boum really shines the most. And I can make things as crunchy as I like during a live performance.
Cheers
This is dope. When are we getting some .ore performance vids??
Great vid, very insightful and practical.
Nice one, Dave!
Hey ! Thanks :)
Thanks for the nice review and use case presentation, Dave. Sort of off topic, but I would welcome some information about how you contend with latency in the Send/Return path with Push/Ableton as your effects unit (assuming Perkons is going to Ableton for the delay, for instance) during live performance versus recording your performance.
There's a bit of latency through ADAT but it's manageable. It's quite important to check what plugins are used inside push and how much latency they add but most Ableton stock plugins and max4live devices don't add any latency. What I did yo compensate the latency from perkons (or any external hardware) to push through the adat interface is add a track delay (or use align delay) on all tracks that are not external ins of 14ms. Makes it right as can be. For the send/return effects from model 1.4 to push and back I used audio tracks rather than using the return channels in push because that added more latency. Hope that helped 👍 cheers
That zero crossing detection really confused me when the model 1 first came out. Both the retailer and I thought the mixer was faulty and we returned 3 mixers before someone read the manual and explained this is how its meant to be 🤣 it also speaks to the fact the mixer is made for pro use and meant to be driven loud. Not really an issue anymore as I know how to use it but it wasnt obvious. I also really love the size of the 1.4.
One thing I did discover is the zero crossing detection only senses on one of the channel inputs, so if you arent using the correct input it wont click off/on.
Hi Dave, great demo. I know its off topic but I was just wondering do you still use your DB4? Also in your professional opinion do you thin k it still advisable to own one even though A&H doesn't support it anymore? Are there any bugs or issue that you can share after all these years? Thank you in advance.
I do still have it but it’s not in use currently. But I’m definitely keeping it. It’s a unique mixer.
The audio card side of the thing is basically unusable currently. However ploytech is releasing a little hardware kit to make to have the sound card compatible with latest OS versions. They have a kickstarter going !
Db4 doesn’t have any bugs in terms of normal operation. It works pretty much flawlessly.
Very nice, detailed video, mate.
Thank you very much.
Could you tell us which sound card you're using for the DSUB connection?
Cheers,
Charly
Hi Charly, thanks 🙏 I'm using the motu ultralite mk5
@@Davemech Thanks mate. Can u use this interface with the Model 1 and use the 6 Channels?
@@charlymadea_official hey, that’s not going to work. Not enough ins/outs on the motu. I’m also using all the outputs on the push to make this work. You’d need a larger audio interface with the model 1
@@Davemech Thanks a lot for your inputs Dave. You Rock xx
A more detailed video of the full setup would also be nice... For what is the push used for instance? Do a more extended jam with..if you feel like doing so off course 🙂
Part of a recording of a live set where I use this setup will be released on YT on 2 weeks :) I use it in a new collaboration project with another live act.
I edged to this for 4 hours.
I love everything about the Model 1.4 except the size. I am trying hard to keep my rig on one pedalboard. Do you know of any small, analog filters out there that would sound great on just the main stereo channel?
Analog heat :)
Hey sir appreciate the video. Do you know if the mixer can connect with RME UCXII, which only seems to have 9 pin d-sub, through maybe a 25 to 9 pin adapter by any chance? Thanks 🙏
Hey ! I suspect that it will not work as the pins represent audio channels afaik. But I'm not 100 % certain. Best to contact playdifferently support.
@@Davemech Got it. Thanks for the advice!
I am so confused, how did you get that awesome Perkons finish? I already thought you abandoned it... maybe you just didn't like the color right? 😅
Yeah custom order :) have been using perkons a lot ever since I got the blue one when it was released. Currently my main instrument in a collab setup that you can see in this video
Wow, didn't know they do that. I am so much looking forward to hearing that setup live 😊
i wish these mixers wouldve come with a soundcard onboard like the v10
Yeah Model 1s are great mixers! but right now I´m getting very interested in the Rodec MX modular mixers I saw at Super booth.. It was very interesting not cheap but wicked good! Also what are your Focal Headphones that you're using?
Love mine as well ! Hope you are doing well after Superbooth!
Cheers mate ! Yeap doing well thank you :)
finally! you've been promising this review for a long time, started out with a model 1 though. why now the 1.4?
The model 1 I got was a lone. Had a bit of a rough year and it wasn’t meant to be at that time. Fast forward I came up with the idea for this setup, and the model 1.4 was a perfect fit for it so I bought that.
Hi Dave,
What mic have you used in this video? The voice is great.
I use a Rode NTG4+ going through a channel on the SSL big six with eq and compression applied and some further eqing in daw. It’s a pretty good mic, and with processing applied to suit your voice it works great 👍
I just sold mine for a Modular Synth.... I miss it so much for the Sound Quality. I think the Headphones preamps must be soo good too.
I'm actually doing the opposite. Maybe you'll return one day, when you have enough of the spaghetti and want immediacy in your workflow (or you're the next Colin Benders)
Great insight in this very interesting workflow - only question: How do you sync this setup with your Push 3 and the external sequencers?
Midi out from push into digitone midi in. Midi thru from digitone to perkons midi in.
@@Davemech wow, without hickups? I didn't get any stable clock out of it, the displays on Elektrons where always oscillating in like +-2 bpm - thanks for the answer - maybe I'll ask later more for the Push 3 (internal) setup, but I'll give Ableton some more time to polish it (not to say the word finish)
@@el_dani that’s just usual read out jitter. It’s not audible ;) you even get that when syncing between Elektrons
@@Davemech yeah, but on Elektrons or other hardware (like Multiclock) it's like +- 0.2 and not in the full digits - but good to know when it's not audible
How does it compare to the DB4? And how can you live without it's features for your live performances?
Incomparable really. Totally different in every single aspect. The setup I show in this video is completely different from my other setup. This setup will mainly be used in a collaborative project I’m working on with a mate. For my solo project I went back to my Elektron + db4 setup.
Thought on the djm v10 I find it's way to big
DJ Dave Mech, would you agree that this unit is at least inspired partially on the Xone DB4? Mixing with filters, also accomplishable in Xone 92 but the DB4 expands on that by filters per channel besides the 2 usual bottom rotarys. Speaking of which i would loooveee a DB4 mk2, with aux send return (1 or 2 pairs of stereo), + jack + rca outputs would make it a DJ/Live/Studio highly adaptable mixer of all trades.
Don’t think so. But who knows :). I think it stems more from missing synthesizers using their filters. And the parametric eq in the middle is quite usual on many mixers though they made this much more focused.
Yeah a db4 mkii would be an instant buy for me. But I’m very doubtful it will ever happen honestly….
Are u using the push 3 as a mastering chain at all?
Nope. I use OTO boum and doctron IMC. No inputs / outputs left to run the main out through a chain on push
U think it's worth getting the 6 channel
I like the way its small the 6 channel is same size as push 3
It depends a bit on what you want to do with it. So I can’t really answer that question I’m afraid :).
Have you used the dsub on the back as I’m interested in buying one but how would you hook the mixer up if you wanted to track Ableton and hardware with it recording all back into your DAW it’s a bit confusing or do you just run it standalone
You need an audio interface for that. Then you can run dsub to that audio interface. I'm using the motu ultralite in this case. So dsub splitter cable to 8 mono jacks I to audio interface and then through USB to the computer ( in my case through ADAT to push 3)
@@Davemech I have an Apollo which has 8 inputs I got the daub cable so is it best to output to the inputs on the Apollo of to send inputs into it from my daw I can’t work out the best way to then track it back inside my daw with my octatrack and digitakt
Only thing what is stopping me, is those fader curves, hated them on the Xone 92, so untill they make this with linear curves its not for me.
what audio interface are you using? sounds like it has a lot of I/O
MOTU Ultralite mk5. Great bang for buck!
@@Davemech yeah, 4 stereo channels and 2 return channels, are like 12 audio outputs, that's more then the usual 8+2 🤔
@@el_dani it has 10 out and 8 in from the top of my head. I’m also using the main out and headphone out from push.
@@Davemech oh, yes I forgot about the Push's audio outputs - I'll probaly feed the Cue B to Push 3 input for sampling, if I'll get into this similar setup (still waiting for the funds growing 😅)
@@Davemech I use the MOTU MK5 with my SSL SIX but I´m seriously considering getting the Big Six I was wondering how do the Big Six convertors sound compared to the MK5? I just want to know they are on par with the Ultralite they don't have to be better.
GAS!
Would love if it had a sound card. Taking a mixer anywhere is an ordeal taking a soundcard as well is too much. Sounds great and i love the mixing style vs traditional band EQ mixing. The master filter alone is pretty awesome.
Yeah would have been nice but that would have changed quite a bit about what it is though. And the size.
I watched until the mentioning of all of the audio interface connections. At that point I just wanted to buy Dave a Xone 96
@@CEMeierlol I had a xone 96 on two occasions actually. (See my reviews on that). Very different mixer and it doesn’t actually provide more connections. The c and d channels are not very useful for my application. It’s also much larger than the 1.4 ;). The audio interface plus 1.4 is quite compact. The mixing experience is also very different of course which is the biggest reason I went for the 1.4 this time. Not to say zone 96 isn’t a great mixer. It’s an amazing piece of kit for sure.
Basically, I could not do what I do now with a 96. ADAT on the interface gives me 8 in and 8 out extra on push 3. So you might want to keep watching 😄
word on the street is you can tap a signal before the sends if you have the stomach for it.
@@Davemech is that basically due to the sends not being available on the xone 96 audio interface/usb? I got rid of mine for that reason.
I never understood why the returns were inputs on the audio interface but not the sends.
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Great video. I loved how the master filter reduced the resonance at lower frequencies.
Dope mixer. Just wished my decals weren't coming off within a year.
is this mixer good for the genre 'hardgroove techno' ?
To me a mixer is not bound to a genre. It’s a tool that can help you mix in a way that you would like to hear. Best to try it out 👍
Which audio interface do you use in this set up?
MOTU Ultralite mk5
@@Davemech how did you connect the dsub from model 1.4 to the MOTU??
@@peterbakker9531dsub to 8x balanced jack cable
@@Davemechhow are you getting the sound from push/ableton back into the mixer? I have model 1.4 but use ableton master fx and when I do that I cannot get the master fx back out into the model 1.4. Do I need to go from the input of motu back into a channel on model 1.4?
@@closerauI’m using the direct main out from push and headphone output to the return channels in this case as ADAT only supports 8 in 8 out from and to push.
Ever tried a korg zero mixer?
Yeah. Mate of mine used to have one and we used it during jam sessions 10 years ago.
Very flimsy build quality though and a lot of stuff broke on it (notably the fx touch pad thing). Nice functionality but would not dare to use it in a live rig for that reason unfortunately
I used a zero 4, a bit more reliable than the 8 as didn't have the touchscreen but build quality was questionable. Though it was way ahead of its time. I liked the easy switch of fx/midi for every channel plus you could choose between different eq's or filters also. That and a soundcard built in.
@@badfoot yeah indeed. It was way ahead of its time. Similar to done db4. Unfortunate not enough people knew what to do with it. Would have loved to see a zero 4/8 in current times with solid quality build :)
Is that Perkons white did you get it custom?
Yeap it is. Custom indeed
@@Davemech I thought there was something wrong with my eyes 😂
@@hollownation😅
Isnt the model 1 much better for hardware setups? 4 channels is limiting
Depends on your setup ;) for my setup it has the perfect amount of channels as explained in the video. However i might add the model 1 for a 10 channel setup eventually for a project I'm working on with a mate. For now the 1.4 is perfect. Cheerio
@@Davemech
This is perfect 90% of the time for me also tbh! The only other one is the 96? Whats your comment on that. Im hardware only btw. Sampler which i use a lot, a perkons, a few polys and a mono . Thanks for comments :)
@@williamwallace650896 is really nice as well. It's quite big though. That's another nice thing about the 1.4: it's really compact for a dj style mixer. But the 96 is also nice. It has a master insert which is great. And the return channels are full featured. I also have a couple of review videos about the 96 on my channel 👍 cheers !
I know it would change the internals a lot, but I wish this had a sound card like the xone 96.
Would've been nice. But there's not even room for an internal PSU so myeah ;)
extremadamente costosa para las prestaciones
Thank you for this review. I thought mine has to be serviced because I noticed a phasing issue on the master filter when boosting the resonance in the lows but I see yours behave the same way. I guess it's because the analog filter process the right and left channel in a slightly different way maybe... strange though 🥲
Hmm yeah but I haven’t found it to be an issue really. I happily boost the lows sometimes when I need the kick to be a bit more thumpy and it sounds great in my studio. Also in mono.
I swapped the model 1 for the xone 96 due to the built in sound card.
Abelton works better for me with it.
Certainly works great as well 👍