Relabelling and Restoring Cartridge Games
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- Опубліковано 26 вер 2024
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In this episode I take a look at two cartridges that are in bad shape and restore them to better condition with new labels and cleaning their contacts.
I could watch this gentleman do a 10 minute tutorial on how to fold the tip of the toilette paper roll and I would still be fascinated.
now im picturing 8-bit sitting around a roll of toilet paper covered in retrobright
Hehe
LOOOL!
_TOILETTE_
stolz_ar 🤭😂🤣😵
"These are my cartridges. I can do what I want with them."
Spoken like a true Texan.
GrantBrenner well when he dies or gives it away the games will be on the market ,and people will find it's no longer original and that's one more of a limited quantity of originals gone , worthless .....
JB Brickman but it was a work of 8 bit guy. Millions of dollars worth :)
Maybe not millions but you are correct there. The 8 bit guy is famous and that increases the value of the cart.
Who did who in the what now?
JB Brickman Can't we just restore games to make them look better, yes it kind of bugs me that he made it identical with nothing showing that its a fake label but its just to make it look better. Yes you could argue that since its fake it has no value but its still the same data.
For future reference on the Avery labels. You grabbed the Inkjet version, you need the laserjet version since you used a laser printer, otherwise they get screwed up like they did in the video.
Yea, you wouldn't think it would matter, but it does, they are different... also, set the printer to "label" mode when printing, it adjusts the way it prints to a thicker surface...
The inkjet versions have a special coating to keep the ink from being absorbed in the paper. Toner doesn't fuse to it very well. Not pointing out the obvious, but mentioned it just in case somebody wanted to know the specific difference between inkjet and laser paper.
Yep, as can be seen at 4:06 in the video the package is of InkJet variety labels. If a "type" designator is on a product, it is often for a good reason (though sometimes just for marketing)
Chris Downey Calm down hitler
@@xscorpx what is wrong with you?
I watch fine art restoration videos too, and he’s addressed that “don’t touch them, let them look ‘old’!” mentality as well. His thoughts (and mine) are that by removing the ravages of time and making the piece look like the artist - or maker - originally intended is the best way to honor the piece. A well restored item can last another 100 years, and so on, which helps preserve history. Plus items that look well cared for are usually going to KEEP being well cared for.
baumgartner fine art restoration?
Baumgartner crew!
There is merit to leaving things as they look. For example: with archeological finds. It is best if they are left as they were found and replicas are made on how they might have looked.
However, with art, and useable items, it is another story. Keeping them functional is better than letting them rot...
that's.. not even true, they never "remove the ravages of time", they actually use completely reversible inks and patches which can be removed at a later date, and if a art piece is restored it's always made 100% what work has been done and can be completely reversed, making game labels and trying to pass them off as legit is the complete opposite, this is like if an art restorer painted over a damaged work of art and didn't tell anyone about it
@@emilycampbell6375 he literally made a video and posted it online telling everyone about the work he did.
"I can't draw Hulk Hogan."
DAMMIT, I am disappointed.
8 bit guy when anything's tough you turn to alcohol
dont we all?.... glug glug :(
@Compliment Thief Lol. Comments on youtube mean alot to you?
@Compliment Thief that's pretty sad😂😭
Even tho I'm the same...
when life is tough,
"They're mine."
All that needs to be said.
yeah lol
old game collectors are seriously some of the most anal people on earth.
like I would be thankful knowing the previous owner put time into making it look nice so when I bought it it looked nice. these scum bag collectors are MAD that this guy restored his own stuff... rofl
So long as people aren't doing this and then selling them claiming they're original, I don't see the problem.
If people are buying old games to play them, then they won't care if the labels are original or re-manufactured. If someone buys a game to speculate and make huge profits, then they get all they deserve because it's people like that who put the prices of old games out of the reach of those that buy the games to play.
It's an interesting ethical discussion though. This is a fact: those traces of use are now gone forever. He did a wonderful job, but he erased a tiny bit of history in the process. Those cartridges were authentic, although ugly. Now they're pretty, but they're inauthentic. It's all about what you value the most. Reducing the argument to a question of ownership kind of ruins the discussion. Of course the owner can do what he want. But this was a discussion about restoration versus conservation.
Mats: If it were something rare, hard to come by, etc, I might have an issue with it. These are not rare games by any stretch, and anyone can buy multiple copies on eBay for very little money, in much better condition than these. If he were re-labeling Earthbound or something, that's a different story.
Some people also have issues with altering old gaming consoles to repair or restore them, or get them to work with more modern TVs, or have better video output.
I personally like to keep consoles as original as possible, but repairs and restorations (if done well), I have no issues with. Even a video mod to make it work with a modern TV, I'm more or less OK with, again, if it's done cleanly. Hardware is more interesting if you can use it, after all.
Everything has a finite lifespan. All of these old consoles and games and computers we like to collect is going to break down and stop working one day, and no one makes parts for most of it anymore. Some examples should be preserved in museums and the like, but I feel like we should do what we can to keep the rest in action as long as possible, even if it leaves things in a not entirely original condition.
Looks great!
I see one difference. The Pitfall logo on the new label doesn't have a trademark symbol at the right.
How aren't you getting a lot of likes as a verified youtuber
Its witchcraft
@@neosrc He had Discord. Fucking loser. I hate him so much
I notice on the wrestle mania the nintendo logo was different
@@chair6419 what's wrong about that?
@@chair6419 wut
People that complain about your restoration videos fail to distinguish the differences between restoration, preservation, and conservation. You are doing genuine restoration, which is about appearance and function. Preservation and conservation are more about keeping original materials intact even to the point of losing functionality. You ain't no museum! I think your analogy to classic car restoration is particularly apt. I love your learning process!
You're right, I view it as restoration too. I do wonder if people who complain about video game restoration also complain about art and antique restoration. I suspect not.
While I believe that a seller of a restored item has the moral duty to state that it is restored at the point of sale, I don't see why they should have to do more than that, especially if it's to the detriment of the look of the restoration. Do restored antiques have to have statements like "restored veneer" embossed into them? They do not.
If people go around telling people what they should do with THEIR own property, they need to re-evaluate the priorities in their lives. I wouldn't waste time or energy even acknowledging people that complain.
what i would probably do is write on the bottom of the label something that indicate that the label is not genuine, otherwise you could trick someone into thinking that those are original labels
But that doesn't apply to a coin from 2000 years ago
Mike - totally agree. As a mechanic who has restored many “classic” cars over the years, it often doesn’t make sense to keep original designs that were known to be faulty. Some guys do - they want an all-original, numbers matching, just as it was when it rolled off the assembly line type car. That’s fine, but I’m not one of those guys, and I make that very clear to the people who offer me resto-jobs. I’ve only done 2 of those and I didn’t enjoy them nearly as much as the “regular” resto-jobs. In the end, it’s whatever makes YOU, as the owner, happy.
As somebody familiar with the ethics of conserving and restoring historical artifacts, I can say that from a historians point of view, you are doing nothing wrong. The most important thing in restoration is documentation, which you do meticulously in these video's. So all the information about the objects earlier state is preserved which is the main goal.
especially since these aren't unique artifacts, they were made in huge quantities with large numbers surviving today, and I'm sure there are pristine examples on display at electronics, computer or video game museums.
Agreed. I took a whole class in museum curatorial practices. Museum restoration and conservation work often involves scrubbing off all the old dirt and touching up the paint and/or taking something apart and putting it back together again - of course, done with extreme care and documenting every step of the process. The idea is to make the object in question more closely resemble its original state (including returning machines to working order) and make them last longer as well.
If you were to re-sell these carts, you should state that the labels are reproductions.
I would agree, in fact if I were doing this project I would probably include in the copyright text "Original cartridge with reproduction art."
Another ramification here is intellectual property. In some cases, the exact things David did are considered IP theft. Is it in this case?
Making reproduction carts is also technically IP theft, but I don't know of anyone who has been punished for that.
If any court would consider what David did to be IP theft, then the law is totally screwed up... He isn't running a business printing other people's labels for a profit, he is restoring an original that was bought and paid for.
Wow! I'm really impressed with how those turned out! Well done!
Me too!
I am jealous of Patreon guys.
Fizzn, the HDHR appreciator It's only $1 a month. Cheap support for a good channel.
Yeah the quality was good as new.
Indeed. And the old car comparison was spot on!
If its in good condition, leave it be. If its damaged, go ahead and restore it.
" Ultimately, what it boils down to is that THESE are my cartridges. I can do whatever I want to with them. I can roll them over with a steam-roller if I want. "
The ultimate roast to both sides of the chicken
Tell Pat the NES Punk & Ian that. They'll tear you a new ass regardless.
@@eupher2 @eupher2 How? they are both beta wastes of time. Then again so is this guy with his pc ruining gun waving ways.
@@thefurloughed945 he’s right though. They are his carts, he can do what he wants with them.
Pat and Ian just have their heads up their asses that if it’s not 100% original then it’s worth less according to them.
Why did you put the emphasis on "THESE"? Certainly he was emphasizing "MY"?
@@eupher2 Pat and Ian are trolls and terrible people. The ONLY way what David is doing here would be a problem, is if he was reselling them and trying to deceive people into thinking they are the original labels in good shape. Since he's not doing that, and these are his cartridges that he is keeping...he can do what he wants with them.
for future reference, you don't have to use tape!, there's 3m adhesive lamination sheets that you can cut to any size.
[[][]|;l|[][]] plus the packing tape will probably yellow over time.
The self stick lamination sheets have issues with "silvering". As it is the packing tape might develop that as well over time.
There are also laminating sheets that don't have adhesive but you need heat, glue or other contact material to attach them.
sellotape will definitely yellow, as it's not its intended purpose, probably much faster than laminating sheet. Just take a look at those old record sleeves with tape on the edges, I remember that back in the days, while they were still current, and not vintage, they were all yellowish even then...
bleckers only uv light will make it yellow
putting it into a cold corner where theres no uv light will not make it yellow :)
learn science
8:21
CAUTION
- DO NOT STORE IN EXTREME TEMPERATURES.
- DO NOT IMMERSE IN WATER.
- DO NOT CLEAN WITH BENZENE, THINNER, ALCOHOL OR OTHER SUCH SOLVENTS.
Basically, everything David did :)
Great video as always!
There's a difference between immersing in water and giving it a quick rinse. It's not like David soaked these overnight in the sink.
And even if he did, the electronics were out.
You guys never put a keyboard in a dishwasher ? :P
i died.
Honestly, it's an NES cartridge. You can drop it to the bottom of the ocean, leave it there for a year or two, pull it out and it'll still work perfectly. :P
Also, don't feed your cartridges after midnight.
I don't know why people would complain about him restoring the cartridges. I mean, it's already in pretty bad shape, there's very little value in collecting them in this state even IF they were originals.
and you know, those paintings and sculptures that are 500+ years old all went through different levels of restoration, and it's still worth keeping.
If anything he's doing one of the best jobs out there restoring, if not the best. At least if one day, all other copies of those 2 games are destroyed, there's still these 2 that are closest to the original( which in my books, close to 100%)
better something left than nothing.
Its no different then restoring a old beat up film back to a watchable state.
@@joedaylight apparently to these ass hats having a movie be literally unwatchable is "better" then restoring it and it being watchable again which would in fact increase its value then being a pile of useless tape and plastic :P
@@joedaylight restoring a film isn't literally taking the original film reel and editing it and therefore destroying the original, they make a copy and make digital edits like grain removal, speed adjustment etc
He _can_ do what he wants with them. Except, he's not doing the best _or even near the best._ Thus, your analogy is worthless.
Even if it’s 50 yrs. old. Not really valuable
As you can see at 2:19, the screenshot on the Pitfall cartridge shows a score of 1848 points and time left 18:49. When I was a kid I wondered if this was a nod to the Hungarian revolution and war of independence of 1848-49, and what would that have to do with a guy running in the jungle.
I mean if we go along that line then it could also have been a reference of the German Empire of 1848 till 1849.
@@Waszabi900 Nyilván, de hétévesen ez nem olyan biztos.
@@Waszabi900 Please use English.
@@infinitecanadian Dude, they can talk in any language they want. Ever heard of Google Translate?
@@gavinthecrafter It's an English channel.
People talking about these game carts like they're artifacts from WWI lmao.
hahah I know right....only LANDFILLS worth of Atari 2600 carts they're so many like the notorious ET
IT BELONGS IN A MUSEUM
a good amount of WWI items are actually less valued by collectors than a lot of WWII Items.
Erik DeWitt you’re an extra-terrestrial to grammar.
What’s the glitch in a person that makes them so soulless that they can’t understand that people are enthusiastic about things?
My dude, you make some of the most interesting content on the UA-cam. Keep doing what you love.
5:11 "I just have a few things to say about that"
Me: o shoot he's pissed
I think the people bitching get their lessons from Pawn Stars. In reality, conservation is key to keeping older things fresh for newer generations to see how things used to be in all their glory.
You did a great job with these. Also, telling those who had a problem to watch the steamroller video is badass. 👍
pawn stars more like porn stars
FWIW, being a former numismatist myself, I can assure you that cleaning any coin with any collector value to any degree will destroy that value leaving it worth little more than face value.
Yes. The coin analogy wasn the best choice. The car analogy was close enough.
I used to trade big time with Roman coins and clean coins always fetched higher price. Of course you DONT take off the patina or any oxidisation layers, or use anythin that may damage the metal, but its no a no-brainer to get the dirt off.
There were times (10-15+ years ago) I could make thousands of € by buying large humps of beaten, dirty coins and restore them through careful cleaning (using microscope and such).
shows what you guys know, I clean my Bitcoins and make a KILLING!
Doesn't change the fact that some people do do it, though.
If you find a 150 years old coin and you want it to look as new, what is the problem in that? Maybe you want a coin that has an historical value (the printings on it) as well as a visual value (a nice shink look). Also, not everybody cares about monetary value, if you are a collector (that as the name suggests, collect stuff) maybe you don't want to sell your collection.
My opinion is, if it's damaged and you can fix it, you should fix it. You clearly put a lot of passion and care into these restorations and you do a great job. Things don't last forever and require maintenance to be preserved for the future. Great job, great videos.
My two cents on restoration: if the original owner or creator would have repaired damage or done maintenance on it, then restore away.
My third cent:
If you own something, feel free to repair it.
The forth cent: I'm black and homosexual transgender African American muslim
I never understood the whole "you shouldn't mess with it!" argument. I completely agree with you, it's mine I want it to look nice.
I bought an old singer sewing machine. Stripped off the old worn out japanning, filed down the casting, bondo, sanded it glass smooth and had an autobody shop paint it. They only charged me $20, and they just happened to be doing a candy-apple red job.
According to the collectors I "destroyed" it. It's mine and I want it to look nice. Yeah the machine is 120 years old. By the time someone who cares gets ahold of it again, it will be another 80 years old and I will be dead.
Also they should just stop sticking their noses into other peoples business unless it's something really bad like animal cruelty or abuse. Don't quote me maybe everyone should stop being a tw*t on the Internet in general
I am the same way. I like to see them looking nice and restored. I'll keep them as original as possible, but I want them looking as nice as possible.
I get the its my property i can do what i want w it but theres a difference between relabeling a game w a missing cartridge and what you described, what you described is akin to polishing silver coins
As a coin collector, I will say in this community, cleaning a coin will destroy its value. But I agree with the car example. A driveable car is better than a rust bucket that is original.
I like how you were able to re-create the Pitfall logo by hand, looks great. If nothing else, this video does demonstrate some critical thinking and problem solving skills which I think more people need to be in touch with.
Did anyone else Google to see if Hulk Hogan has a belly button? I still couldn’t find definitive proof.
you can see the indent right under his pant line
belly = bell y
The belly button's under his pants.
Stan Kozniewski I HAVE PROOF
Go to this link and look at the picture
cheezburger.com/3945340416
He has a belly button in the pic
I think he ripped it off earlier in his career. You might find it for sale on ebay. Has anyone thought to look there?
I can understand the difference between painting a vintage car and replacing labels on game carts. But im a strong believer in "its mine, i can do what i want", and support you exercising that right too!
Had i done this, id of only done 1 thing different. Id of used steaming water to remove the stickers (like removing stamps to collect them!), allowed the label to dry and then put them into a plastic sleeve that i would keep with the game or its manual or in its box, if somehow that exists.
8:22 You broke all the rules in the label...
This was great. My only complaint was the seam made by the packing tape.
I was initially worried about this problem too when I finally made a few labels myself this afternoon however when I applied the glue to the paper and then put them on the cart and smoothed it out with my fingers and a micro fiber cloth the seam virtually disappeared. In general I love the end results however I do wish some parts of it were a little less wrinkled. Maybe when it's fully dry and the adhesive has had some time to cure it'll look just fine. 😀🎮💞😉
Tape edges will get ugly in just a few months. Spray coating used by charcoal artist is better.
Doesn't that leave a matte finish, though?
There's a choice of matte and gloss.
How would the spray affect the paper?
Jeff Peterson It's just a layer of non-wetting lacquer (essentially)
Roberto Martin yeah. Even just cheap contact would have been better and no seam
Hold the phone! Forget the video....why doesn't the Hulk have a belly button!?
Probably the same reason the genie in 'I Dream of Genie' didn't have one.
lol, cause he hikes up his pants like an old man.
Lies. These are in no way shape or form the logical reasons to explain this phenomenon!
mom pants were big then, even for dudes
Mandala Effect!! Some of us remember his belly button!!!
Love the opinion speech, most of the time UA-camrs just try to make as many people as possible happy. He just said "Fack off, this is mine, I'll do what I want with it." Very cocky, I respect that.
Really awesome vid!
ProtoMario commented on a video and only got 3 likes... Huh.
But proto it's great
Ikr
Just 3 coments above me... huh
I AM PROTO! YOUR SECURITY IS MY MOTTO!
Acrylic lacquer or varnish is way better than tape and doses't yellow with age. You can also spray the back of the label to stop glue ingress
Original photo have lights above Hulk head. I'm 100% sure original WrestleMania did something similar what you did.
Small tip to finding photos in Google. If you can't find a photo you want, check "linked photos" or whatever it called on the right side of photo. If you find it but in low resolution, use image search. I found a lot of photos and images using this method.
I buy and sell a fair amount of games and electronics on eBay. I generally restore everything before I sell it. Here's a few tips for games:
Clean the game contacts with a cotton swab and Brasso metal polish. The swab will turn black/green with oxidation. After that, wipe it off with a tissue.
Clean the cartridge housing with cotton balls (swabs for detail work) and rubbing alcohol.
Remove labels with Zippo lighter fluid. Douse the label and let it sit for about 2 minutes. It removes self-adhesive labels (and stamps for collecting) like nothing.
Reproduction labels can easily be bought online. They have the same plastic coating and look amazing. They are virtually indistinguishable from the originals. That said, one supplier I use includes minuscule text in an inconspicuous area that says "reproduction label".
I also recommend buying cheap, shovelware (think AVGN) NES games that you can keep on hand for when you need a new housing for a good game. If you buy a game like Zelda, Mario, etc that has a cracked housing, thus being dirt cheap, you can easily restore it and flip it.
I also replace game save batteries, but that's another tutorial.
How can there be comments from over 8 hours ago, if youtube tells me this video was uploaded 5 minutes ago?
Bombastisch I'm pretty sure Patreon supporters get to see the videos before everyone else. The "upload time" is actually the time the video was made public.
Patreon people see it first
Bombastisch patreon
Videos are open to those who contribute through Patreon beforehand so the video is unlisted on youtube until going public.
paywalltreon
Great video as usual. The labels are not the originals, but you reproduced them almost flawlessly. As long the game works and we can see the representation of the label. You are preserving history. It's like restoring a painting. Great job! Love all your videos.
Restore a SNES that's yellow
Pixels I got one! found it in my loft few days ago. the console isn't that bad but a couple of the cartridges are a mess.
Your average Brit & Whovian man im jealous now :D
Preston Garvey Impersonator yea it is a fully functional 20+ year old SNES PAL version because I'm in UK. I got 2 fully functioning controllers still with it and 6 fully working cartridges that arnt in the best of state except mortal kombat which was in a container keeping it completely pristine. the wire on the mains socket was pulled but we fixed that so everything is original, old, dirty, and fantastic. and I've already played all of them. works great. did have to buy a new av lead and scart adapter to connect it to the TV as I no longer have an old 80s or 90s TV.
Preston Garvey Impersonator I never realised how hard super Mario world is from the start
Pixels retrobright
That font for the Activision cartridge is plain ol' Futura, so that could've saved you some effort :D
David, remember when you repaired apple products, I believe you should start a restoration business and set prices on how much you would charge for restoring products.
Brandon Reese Like.
Manuel H. Shut up.
Speaking like a true capitalist. Perhaps call it 8-bit restorations.
I think he should just let us do the restoring, I mean these videos are pretty educational
Brandon Reese I believe that was his old hobby/business. I believe there may even be a video out there explaining why he isn't doing it anymore. I think it's really a matter of economics.
Word to the wise if you do need to sell them in the future, state those are reproduction labels....
gmcnewlook lul
Only asshats care about that shit. Who the fuck really cares? Normal people wouldn't give a fuck.
I'm not a collector, nor do I personally care about somewhat beat-up original labels vs. reproduction labels, but I can guarantee that somebody who is paying $50+ for these cartridges (with the "retro" boom due to UA-cam etc. even common games like Contra are now going for $50+ in most places) would very much care about whether ANYTHING on their relatively expensive cartridge was new/fake. Of course "normal" or casual gamers/non-collectors would be more likely to play these games on the Nintendo Virtual Console/download them vs. buying a physical cartridge anyway.
SmerrillS Reviews chances are they would give a fuck because these are collectibles and people that buy this stuff are most of the time collectors.
To use the same reasoning as in the video - I know a guy with a 6 decades old Jaguar MKV convertible. He had the choice to order a original headlight frame for a few thousands or reproduce a mirror copy from the other headlight in a professional 3d printshop that could print to steel and chrome. The price, including the work of the CAD guy who meassured the piece and drew it in 3D, was a little under $800 and nobody could see the difference other than that it was really shiny and brand new. The car in its current state is worth over half a million. I doubt that a potential buyer would notice it or care for it since all the rest is original.
spray on the paper, not on the cart... always let it dry a bit it's how it's supposed to use. I do that with many games at our store, it removes a bit of value on rare games but a torn label would be worth less anyway... a tip I can give you just put the label on a wider piece of paper and spray from a good foot distance so it isn't wet. let it dry about 10 seconds and then stick it!!
Indeed - the way he used spray adhesive is NOT the correct way to use it (RTFM) - as was evidenced by the solvent bleed through - You always spray and let sit for some time, and if you REALLY need it to stick, spray on both surfaces and let sit.
I want to thank you for your videos. They have changed me. I have never been much of a "fixer", but after watching about a dozen of your video, I thought, I CAN DO THIS. I started restoring some of my old video game artwork labels. I have opened and restored a couple of my old C-64, Vic-20's, & 1541's. I moved on to my old N-64 and GameCubes. I'm no longer afraid to open up and try to fix my older stuff. It's been my obsession this summer. As I type this there is a tub of older games in the sun getting retro-brighting in the OKC sun. Thank you again for helping change my into the "fixer" I always wanted to be.
You are not destroying anything dude, you simply gave them a new life... amazing work.
Never heard of someone advocating restoring/polishing a coin, which is a massive no no. Unless you just don't care, but it destroys almost all of its value.
But, ya, cars, games? Restore them! Unless it is some very rare game, but I think the Hulk isn't too rare....!
what is value? what rich collectible losers are willing to pay
collectors are hoarders, its a mental disability. A coin should be worth as much as marked on the fucking coin.
lol at how old 25cent coins worth thousands. What does it do? sits in a hoarders "collection" Thats the only way it can have "value". Unless the coin is from a crazy period in time, or needed to be studied for science, or something should it be worth more, but a "oh, this version is rare, its worth 10,000 and this one thats almost the same is only $1000... they but equally as useless but this one has an extra line on it thats not supposed to be there! OMFG!!!!!
Value people, and life, not collections.
A poor collector is a hoarder, a rich one is a COLLECTOR WEE!!!
Slime Bucket It's called having a hobby. Some people like collecting coins or vintage electronics for a hobby...other people I suppose like to cry, whine, and get triggered as a hobby. I'm assuming you are the latter.
I have a computer company, I have a $3000 computer triple monitor setup, I have a beautiful wife, I have a 6 year old kid, I have a 2015 ford Fusion, my wife has a 2014 Chrysler 200.
I sell all my friends computers. I am the comp tech for my group.
Last month I bought and sold 5 geforce 1070''s, a 1080, 6 1060s.
But if you want to believe I have nothing I give a crap about to make yourself feel better that all you do is go online and insult people go ahead.
I have everything in life I need, and more money isn't one of em.
You sound like you hate your life and go on the internet to insult others to make yourself feel better.
Slime Bucket You're the one who came onto a video about collecting and restoring vintage video game catridges, made by a guy whose hobby is collecting vintage electronics, and then made an inflammatory statement "Collectors are hoarders. It's a mental illness." You seem to be the one with a problem and are the one who insulted people. There's a saying older people used to tell me - "You made your bed, so go lie in it."
I love watching these restoring videos. the process is nice. :)
I'm so fascinated and intrigued with how you do restores and bring things to life. Your videos are making me want to pick up the hobby of restoring even more so than what I do now. Bringing these things back to life and you giving them a new and kind and caring home just makes my heart smile with so much joy. Thank you for your videos and thank you for rescuing all the older technology.
The 8 Bit Guy is the best! I love it when he shows us in detail his learning curve! Production quality is top notch! (watching this it is hard to believe that it came from UA-cam). Brilliant!
I know people want authenticity but these carts are getting really old and showing their wear and tear over the years. Eventually they are going to have to be restored to some extent. I dont see the big deal in replacing a label as long as it stays as true as possible to the original label. It might devalue them for resale but its not always about reselling. Like you said they are yours and you should enjoy them however you want to.
The issue I can think of is that you lose infomation about paper quality, print quality etc. when you completly replace the label. An old label can contain a lot of information other than its graphic design.
Problem 1 - Untrained amateurs following the advice laid out in this video may caused irreversible damage to their rare/valuable games.
Problem 2 - Failing to provide any warnings as to how this may impact the value of a game could lead to people unintentionally devaluing their collection in a way they later regret.
Problem 3 - Failing to include any warnings that indicate these are reproduction labels adds uncertainty and instability to the collector's market. Relabeled games, regardless of their owner's original intentions, always end up either destroyed or place back into the market due to theft, sales or the death of the original owner.
You might not have a problem with the concept of relabeling, but can you see how the information presented in this specific video is irresponsible, given that there is absolutely zero consideration given to why someone might NOT want to go ahead and do this to every game they own?
you shouldnt attempt this if you have no kind of skill in doing so. I am not so sure how hard it is to put a sticker on I never have any trouble. If you are a collector of games you already know about what devalues them. Not everyone wants to resale their collections. Also paper doesnt last forever at some point its gonna have to be done if these things survive the test of time . You could argue everytime John Riggs fixes a game he is devaluing it also cause its not original anymore in a lot of cases
Right, unless he's actually selling them as originals, nothing he's doing is wrong. It's for his own personal use, and as long as it remains his property, he is accountable to no one else. It's no one else's business.
Besides which, THIS is what's getting collectors' panties in a knot? This is nothing. I'm sorry to say, but collectors just need to get used to it. It's not going to be too much longer before we can make factory-quality labels at home, and once that happens, all the "rules" are out the window.
Get used to it.
Yes it's a tutorial, but that doesn't mean you can't apply ethics to it.
Who would not notice the seam of the overlapping clear sticky tape on close inspection?
He really didn't need to put that tape in my opinion, it looked fine and "real" without it.
I thought of this video when my son left a Switch cartridge in his pants pocket which was thoroughly washed, which removed the artwork. I was able to find an image online, print it, shrink it with our color copier, use packing tape to cover it, and then attach it to the cartridge. It's not perfect, but it amazed my 10-year-old, and we know which game it is when looking at it. Super Smash Brothers I believe.
What if you laminated the labels?
you laminate only the image side, then spray the adhesive on the cartridge and place the label on the cartridge.
YowLife Productions I feel like that would be too thick.
You could use self adhesive laminate, I think it's probably what would've been used originally. Commercial grade would be very thin.
He could use clear contact, the stuff people use to cover their school books. It's clear, hard wearing, and friendly to the paper beneath (unlike tape).
Cold Roll Laminating is alternative to thermal laminating film that require no heat to activate the adhesive. No warm-up time necessary. Similar to using standard adhesive tape to cover your document, cold lamination is perfect when the precision quality of a thermal heat laminator is not necessary. Or when the material you are using cannot withstand the heat of thermal lamination. Roll lamination film preserves and protects documents. Roll lamination film can be used to laminate posters, maps, signs and other documents.
This reminds me that I still have to Relabel my Pokemon Pearl (I brought it from some thrift shop and it has some liquid (probably coffee) that was spilled on it)!
here to state that a GBC game called Shantae sold on ebay not too long ago with a replaced label for about $900. i believe as long as you state that the label is replaced, buyers will be fine with it. there is no society of collectors that set any rules about labels or anything like that. just make it look good and state that it's replaced and buyers should not mind it. if anything, we SHOULD make that a word of mouth rule here on the internet. folks, replace your label if need be, it will NOT reduce the value of the original hardware.
I'm from México, and sometimes i print stickers with my favorite images or movie/band logos, after many tests in different printing stores (i don't know how to say it in english), i decided to print them in adhesive paper and add a finnish adding a technique called ulatraviolet varnish polish. In my country is very cheap and fast to make that stickers and the results are very professional, i bet these techniques are the best option to relabeling your old cartridges. Awesome UA-cam channel by the way.
Awesome hand done reproductions. Was it really time wasted if you enjoy the end result? I think not. Keep up the good work.
also, don't you need to apply the rubber cement to both items?
In this case it wouldn't have mattered. Rubber cement works poorly on plastics and will certainly fail over time.
I've watched this video a few times before and finally had occasion to put the advice to use while recreating a ruined label for a reel-to reel tape. I found myself coming back for tips and ways to avoid pitfalls (no pun intended). Thank you!
I'm surprised there isn't an online repository of hi-res labels.
I found the labels after a couple of seconds of Googling in 1000 x 1000 or higher, I guess he just wanted to have fun and make them himself. Or maybe that's not high enough resolution, dunno
With the Activision pitfall cartridge why didn't you just scan it in and then use adobe photoshop to fix and restore the image?
Because he's an idiot. A happy idiot who likes to display his idiocy.
adilator listen man, I do this stuff too. We take pride in creating labels
Artyom Hunter end result Will be always pixelated degraded look and takes a huge amount of time to fix is all with PS.
Why use Adobe Photoshop when there are plenty of free image manipulation programs that have the exactly same tools as photoshop? For example Gimp is a good alternative.
just buy extra wide packing tape. that line down the middle! argh! still the videos are great and you have a nice practical approach to things
I wonder if spray on gloss varnish wouldn't work. A light spray should be all it takes and that would keep it from soaking in too much I'd think.
@@shivorath Spray on varnish, or lacquer, or Krylon would be a better idea, packing tape is like Scotch tape, it deteriorates over time.
I could watch this guy eat a big Mac and I would still be entertained
... You can use a wooden cuticle stick to get those stubborn labels off without hurting the plastic, just a tip ;-)
Or a plastic 'spudger' - tools designed to pull appart elecronics and car panels without marring them. A metal tool is definitely NOT the right tool.
8:04~ "Since I've removed the labels...", +Squints at cartridge shown on screen+....Oh really now? ;3
5:48 "These are my cartridges. I can do whatever I want to with them"
Bam Bam Bigelow has his arm & costume peeking out of Hogans right hip in his replacement photo he created. Years of playing what's the difference in the 2 photos made it glaringly stand out to me. overall it's an amazing replacement photo & now people know what game it is.
Scotty peelers are a game changer for label removal. cheers
I finally invested in a set of Scotty Peelers after reading about them. It took awhile to think about...because why waste money on something your fingernails can do? But, I am now convinced! A set of 3 plastic and 1 metal can be found for less than $10. If you peel lots of small (or even just a few large) labels, it's worth a few bucks!
Lol, exactly
This is great info. I wouldn't want to do it for my cartridges. But I'd definitely do it for floppies! I did notice a bit of overlap with the tape. But wider tape can definitely be easy to find if you ever wanted to redo them to make them perfectly seemless.
Also, when it comes to removing labels, I usually soak them in water, run them with my thumb then use isopropyl alcohol to get rid of the gummy residue. I do this alot on thrift store labels on CD and DVD cases.
Wow, this is was just such a fun video to watch. You've earned yourself another subscriber and notifications list member.
Maybe you should've simply scan the original pitfall label, it's pretty intact aside from the old look, and just create a layer over it to recreate the image with the best accuracy.
do the math... eee... more restorations, more restorations, more restorations!!!! :) greetings from Poland :)
Wow, this video helped me a ton!! I was able to fix my copy of Pokemon Leaf Green that I just picked up! Thanks!
I think ive said this in the past. I love the way you take the time to do things, test different thigs and how your present them for all of us out there that enjoy learning new ways.
Thank you for you nice video
For scraping, try using plastic, like credit card samples from junk mail. Great for gunk on laminate counters, too. No scratches.
These are common carts so no biggie, In the end as long as you do not try to sell it as if it is original label and in mint condition. The Glue on activision labels eventually ruined the labels. So I am all for replacing those labels.
yea, hopefully he don't make a whole $3 on a shitty game with a new label
Pitfall is really a good game you know
Pitfall is the best game what are you talking about
nice video and i love how you created new labels, but i did notice you used to the wrong Nintendo Logo on the Wrestlemania game.
Man, you are a damn GENIUS! I suffered all the time watching your process but the result was amazing. CONGRATS!
7:50 Adhesive will etch better into scratches than glossy plastic.
circuit board: gets under water
me: small panic attack
The lesson is: electronics are fine getting wet - so long as there is no POWER applied to the circuits. They are water resistant. Just let them set out and fully dry (I'd recommend hours or a day or more depening on how many nooks and crannies there are - eg if water got between the chips and the circuit board). Then reassemble. Or use a dehumidifier in a small room/big box if you need it.
I'm a complex man. Every time I see a new video from The 8-Bit Guy, I immediately push everything aside and watch it!
Oh and hey: Do you still got that free laptop program still? My sick grandma got in a car crash and needs a laptop for college. You can buy it, and send it to Mockingbird Lane, Nowhereville. :P (Reference to another video BTW)
Lighter fluid (just highly refined petrol) works really well at removing labels. It takes seconds and doesn't hurt the plastic. Works on those really stubborn labels, too!
Dang, the hooting and hollering in this comment section is rather hilarious. No, he did not take a mint condition antique car and paint it for the hell of it... he painted an old rust bucket. It would be a different story if the games were actually exceptionally rare/valuable, but they aren't. These are just for people to play the games on original equipment, and now he is not seeking to buy one in better condition so it'll be available for someone else ;-)
(But I must note it should say REPRODUCTION LABEL. I understand it is just for him, and he already knows... but unless he gets burred with it someone else will own it in the future. We can't predict how it may change hands, but best to make sure it's presented as what it is.)
I completely agree with you, even though I'm definitely in the "don't replace labels" camp. As long as it actually says reproduction somewhere, I think it's great, and the owner can do anything they want. I might even be ok with adding some of those to my own collection.
FuckYouGooglePlus Yep, exactly what you said. It belongs to him. It is his. He owns it. End of discussion.
if he sells it, it would matter
I like the results, good job, a few tips for the next batch
3:30 Needs some gaussian blur
9:03 Just use White vinyl pencil eraser and clean the residue with a clean dry brush
11:27 tape will turn yellow over time, maybe some uv resistant clear coat...
I remember as a kid the c64 . we use to start loading a game and go out and play for 45 minutes and my friends mum would come out and scream: you're computer games ready boys . my friend: mum can you turn over tape and press play.45 mins later 90 mins of playing war in the bushes we got down on the 64 ..
great days .
Naptha is the organic solvent making up most of Goo Gone, Ronsol lighter fluid, and WD-40.
I think almost any non-polar solvent would work. You could probably use dichloromethane (CH2Cl2), trichloromethane (CHCl3), tetrachloromethane (CCl4) and so on.
I don't know which plastics are used for those cartridges. It might be ABS.
I know that polystyrene is problematic. For example, acetone liquifies it. Other plastics such as nylon and LCP (liquid crystal polymer) liquefy on contact with acids.
Freakin' Gorgeous Labels!! Well done!
the nintendo logo on the wrestle mania is slightly different
I would not recommend you using tape as a protection cover. I've tried that for other uses and it usually results in the tape getting really yellowish and dirty looking after a while. I don't know if it's the tape itself of the adhesive part of it, or it reacts somehow with the paper that you stick it on but yeah, it gets bad.
Had some work experience in a computer assembly factory.
We use plastic pencil erasers to clean the exposed contacts on any PCB.
Very low risk and does a good job cleaning any dirty contact pads
returning something to what it used to "look" like dosent change its history it only changes what it looks like and personally if i were you id feel a lot of pride in takeing something that has an incredible story and returning it to its glory days
I've made quite a few Activision labels via the Avery labels myself. Activision had terrible glue and suffers from acti-plaque, so the replacement labels make them look quite nice!
That's awesome how you restore things like that!
Great Work! And yes there is nothing at all wrong with what you are doing to keep your collection looking nice. That said as long as you weren't trying to con people into thinking these were mint originals and selling them at higher prices you are all good in this project.
Keep up the great work!
It really annoys me that you forgot to put the trademark logo next to the pitfall text :/
also the nintendo logo on wrestlemania. it's a black background not white.
It's an improvement
I disagree. I think relabeled carts should always have a tell for the eagle eyed to catch.
And it puzzles me why you'd draw it, when so many perfect images already exist online: www.google.ca/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwjEyrKml6XXAhUMymMKHdtiDD8QjRwIBw&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.gameblast.com.br%2F2017%2F04%2Fpitfall-35anos-legado.html&psig=AOvVaw0rqK6GHVBTiReSgQcnkXMs&ust=1509893837405295
Well, one can't tell him he's counterfeiting labels.
People just need to use common sense. Should you restore the label on something worth a few hundred or thousand dollars? Probably not.
But something like a random crusty Atari 2600 game or common as hell NES cartridge you're not reselling, who cares?
I prefer to completely restore like he does. However, I always check to see if it will hurt the value of things worth over one hundred dollars. I restored the walnut stock on a gun for my father one year. Even though I didn't hurt the gun and I made it look amazing, it hurt the value. Gun collectors want the original finish always. It never makes sense to me though. You are not changing anything on the gun at all. ALl you are doing is removing the old terrible varnishs used in the past and putting a much protecting polyurethane and it looks amazing when done right.
and if he sells it later I buy it and find this out I am scammed
you have too look at the future as well
@@wowgek7I hope he burns them.
@@jefftparker just put on the label that the label is fake problem solved for the most part.
anyhow I read your other comments as well.
I like comments like that because they show me the stupidity of the avarage keyboard warrior and remind me not to become like that.
@@wowgek7 Sounds like fun.
My interest is now peaked. I might have to try this. Thank you and great work!
I think watching the Pitfall cartridge remade was pretty awesome!
Seems most of my Activision Atari carts have faded labels, I need to try this.
I'm actually getting sick and tired of this I do believe if you need to restore your console or the pictures or anything like that do it.
If we don't restore these things then it's gonna go the way of films. We will end up losing 80%.
Yes I collect video games of all formats. Some of them I'm going to restore but not to be resold.
That's my two pennies worth.
Thank you. Common sense is not very... well... *common* in this comments section. Thanks for being part of the exception. And yes, I do realize that I'm a year late, but who cares?