+Jack Plays Yes. I've been looking for reviews for weeks, it seems like most people just plugged it in and tried it on 1 or 2 games for 10 minutes. Hopefully more reviews by people that have actually used the damn thing start showing up.
If folks are still new to this vid, I also just wanted to point out that I'm STILL on the original AA Batteries... This thing must operate on voodoo magic. I'm using it quite a lot too. I haven't kept a full tally but JUST in Fallout 4 I'm already at 36 hrs of play time and all of that is on the Steam Controller.
+nathan cooley I put right pad to be mouse-joystick with fast accuracy and an outer ring to be like a joystick for continuous movement and I made double tap on right pad for pipboy or double tap hold for flashlight. Gyro aim on left trigger full pull. Everything else is basic controller. You can find it in community profiles for F4, it's got my name in the title.
Depends on what you want out of it. I'd say Steam Controller because it has more potential BUT it also has more of a learning curve and can be a little finicky with non-steam games.
Digging in the profile is I think, a good idea. Also using it as a steam controller instead of expecting to emulate a XBox controller give some pretty interesting result I think. My last try is to use only the pad for the control .. not the stick. like the first prototype of steam controller and combining this with an alternate control. Which mean the left pad act as a motion/stick when touching and as a Dpad when clicking.. And the right pad act as a camera/mouse when touching and as XYAB when clicking. So it's possible to play about every game while keeping the thumbs on the pads. Doing this also free one stick and four button to map something else. and there are still the paddle in the back remaining too. We can go crazy like touching the pad to control a camera/mouse, clicking in the middle start the gyro and click up/down/left right as ABXY and we can still add an other function for the outside ring. It mean we can control 6 button and two axis with only one pad... And the pad is large enough to get the expected function every time. I do feel like it may be a total revolution and it definitively worth spending little time learning it.
+Eric Jacques (Leucome) There's definitely more to it than meets the eye. When you dig in under the hood it's pretty crazy how much we can tweak. Still a few things missing to make it perfect (taps and holds) but it's nearly there.
your reviews on the steam control has made me want to get one, very good review thanks for taking time to actually learn to use it rather than the damn ‘unboxing vids’ where some fool knows nothing and then says "its not the thing i use" like that is remotely helpful. you are a gentleman and a scholar
+Steven Prince Thanks. Yeah, I noticed a lot of rushed vids that weren't very informative so I took a few weeks to get used to it first before reviewing it.
An actual steam controller review it's a miracle! Not an unboxing ( box review) or unboxing/steam controller review (let's not use it, just look at it and call it a review plus talk about the stupid box) Thank you for doing an actual review. Hope to pick up a steam controller soon. think it will be a good fit for me.
Thanks for digging the vid. I'd point out too that pretty much all of my complaints on the software (taps, holds, separate action sets) have been patched in since its original release.
+ExistentialEgg I wish more channels were like this. Giving actual information instead of reading press releases and filling time with terrible jokes and cringeworthy dialogue. Bravo sir
I feel that this review made it very easy for someone to really get a feel for the controller themselves through your exploration. Very well done and thank you
After a few games completed you can configure any game in less than 5 mins, then as you play the game you tune it to perfection. Everybody goes: Excited > Frustrated > A-fucking-mazed
Especialy when you play games that controll simmilayr you can just easily transfer config from one game to another and maybe do two tweaks and be ready to play.
I was so heartbroken when Steam discontinued it. I am glad I have both Controller and Steam Link. I honestly believe this is the best overall controller to my liking. I wish someone would pick it up and evolve it, refine it features. Also, the software is massively impressive and I do love it, it is possible to play a lot of keyboard and mouse exclusive games on this controller. The haptic feedback and gyro is amazing. This these will certainly be a hell of a legacy for those that utilized it full potential.
This is the best video I've seen on the Steam Controller. Great job man! Almost every video I've seen is people just rushing to get their views seen before even truly knowing what this little monster can do.
I was tempted to try and rush to get an impressions video up but figured it would be much more helpful to wait a bit and put out a comprehensive review even if it doesn't get as many views.
I know this is alot late but I really loved your review it really helped me fully understand that this was the controller that I have been looking for a semi alternative for a controller and a wheel. Thanks soo much...
+Jonathan Nusbaum Never too late for compliments. Thanks. It's nice to know people appreciate my efforts. As an aside, my grumbles about the software have been patched in so it's even more impressive now.
FYI on the mode shifting, you can shift the stick and ABXY buttons, and even the gyro as well. Great review though, I definitely appreciate you taking time to get used to it and learn it's quirks, rather than jumping on a quick first impression and never following up like so many I've seen. Battlefront runs great with it, BTW :) Easiest way I got it running was adding Origin.exe as a non-Steam game, then launching Battlefront from there. Just turn off the Origin overlay, and maybe have Origin exit when you exit the game to keep things from getting too frustrating. It does alright with Gamepad with High Precision Camera/Aim, though I felt the hand-off between the two added some "resistance" to the mouse. Not MGS5 or Skryim's complete lack of mouse input bad, but it definitely felt a bit more sluggish and needed higher sensitivity. But using it in Keyboard and Mouse mode felt great, and you can even set it up to mimic the gamepad layout if that's more comfortable to you.
+8-Bit Cerberus Hmm.. I could have SWORN that mode shifting wouldn't work for ABXY. I wonder if that was a recent'ish firmware update or maybe I just got hung up and confused because I know you can't do Taps and Holds yet and that's really what bothers me the most. Yeah, I definitely plan to play Battlefront with it, probably in mouse precision mode. Interesting to add Origin into Steam. Any particular benefit or reason doing it that way instead of adding Battlefront.exe into steam?
ExistentialEgg The only benefit is if the executable needs Origin to authorize it for whatever reason. The beta did not need to be loaded through Origin, but no telling what's going to happen with the release. I know games like Battlefield 4 generally don't work so well just adding their executable to Steam, and adding Origin then launching BF4 from there seems to cure any ails. Hoping a recent update hasn't removed the mode shifting on ABXY o.O We finally got them to add it to the triggers (still hoping for the bumpers and grips eventually, too) so they best not be taking it away from somewhere else... Ok, whew! Just checked and still is available in the latest beta client. Now if I can just get them to fix and bring back the "Stick Mouse" input type. That one would be ideal for aRPGs and MOBAs if they can get it working properly. It would basically "stick" the mouse cursor at center screen, and you could move it around, then it would snap back to center screen when you let go. Set the sensitivity low so it can't travel too far, and you've got a great joystick based movement for those types of games. Map the mouse click to the outer ring, or just hold down whatever you map to left mouse. Keepin' the dream alive.
It's totally worth it. It's improved quite a bit since this vid too. They've added in action sets for more advanced configurations and lots of other tweaks that I usually cover in my other vids. Actually just put up a vid playing Dead Island with gyro controls and it's so much fun.
ExistentialEgg I'm glad that Prime has free 2-day shipping, so I can get it even sooner. All my usual games should play well on this, and a few games I haven't played in a while might be able to be revitalized with the controller.
+Daggerborn I went from pre-order fanboy, to reluctant early subscriber, to well-seasoned fanboy. It made a pretty awful first impression but the more I use it the less I ever want to use dual analogs again. I'd say currently the only real weakness of it would be using the left pad as dpad. I haven't gotten used to that yet.
ExistentialEgg, when it comes to info on the Steam controller - you provide the best videos, the most detailed analysis, the most informative tips, and the best profiles - you da man! Steam should really pay you a salary for sales/marketing. If it weren't for your videos, I would have never purchased one, no b.s.
+Derek Moore (SMOKE) Thanks a lot! I try to be very informative with my Steam Controller vids and it's something I enjoy fiddling with so win win for me. :P I've actually been accused a few times of being a paid plant for Valve. Heh, no no no, I just like the controller so I guess it shows but I also make sure to go over the things that bother me about it too. It's very good but not perfect.
+ExistentialEgg That's why your Steam controller videos are as good as they are - because we can tell that you're just a regular dude with no bias, who goes out of his way to produce high quality in depth full reviews, tips, guides, and more. You're a great help to those of us in need of the truth about it. On top of that you're a one stop shop for setups and configuration, experimentation. And your presentation is professional quality. Just wanted to say thank you sir for being an invaluable resource. I link your videos on forums that cover the topic of controller issues in PC games. You single handedly saved games like Star Wars Battlefront and SQUAD for people like me who have a PC, no consoles, but got our gaming experience over the years on consoles and therefore learned to use a controller as an extension of our bodies and seek out a controller experience in the PC games that snub proper controller support. Again, thank you.
This is true. And it's one of my favorite parts. I personally love finding the obscure crap I own that doesn't have a community profile yet, then spending a few hours just honing in a configuration that feels right to me.
Very interesting review! I'm liking the combination of speed and precision it gives for things like FPS's (although I'd probably still prefer mouse & keyboard, being old and stuck in my ways :)). Sorry if you answered this already and I missed it, but does it allow sharing of custom profiles? Seems like it would be a good way to get people up to speed (particularly those that don't want to mess with the settings) if they had access to a well set up profile for the particular game they're playing.
+GearBlocks Profiles are tied to the game in Big Picture Mode. There doesn't seem to be an easy way to link to or share them individually (yet). So for now, I need to go into BPM / Configure Controller / Browse Community and then you can see what other players have made for that game. Where it's going to be a problem is for something like GearBlocks that isn't in Steam right now. I can add it as a non-steam game but I don't think anyone else could view that profile because it's not integrated into the steam ecosphere. Though I bet GearBlocks could work out VERY well with the Steam Controller. :)
***** Loving it so far, but on Portal 2 the analogue stick isn't moving anything at all, I had to rebind the analogue stick to act as a D-pad so i can only walk in 4 directions and diagonal.
+Andrew Thanks, this was back when it launched. It's gotten a lot of updates too. I have a whole playlist of vids up in the description if you want to know more about it.
+ExistentialEgg I've been taking a look at quite a few of them, as well as some other videos from your channel. I knew it was customizable, but I had no idea it was *so* customizable! I'm definitely going to pick one up when I go out tomorrow :)
Awesome... Don't be so negative on yourself mate. The people that are going to watch the whole video are the people like myself and yourself who really wants to learn and are patient enough to sit through it. The others won't sit around anyway. I call them McDonalds Mentality. "If it's not ready in 5 min, I'm moving on"
Great video Egg, I really enjoyed this review. It seems like every other video is just an unboxing and them trying it out without playing anything. I'll probably stick to a 360 controller for my PC Gaming controller needs, but this a cool little controller nonetheless.
ExistentialEgg Your review made me realize that I didn't need a review to know if I'd like it. Knowing about the ability to customize it that you seem to be the only one to go in depth for made me decide to get one. Pity they're out of stock on amazon.com hahaha.
+Joshua K. Pearson You can customize a LOT on it and they keep adding more. It's not perfect and doesn't rival Xpadder yet but it's easily the best PC controller (imho) because it doesn't require a separate program like Xpadder, it comes with the software built in.
You make it sound like adding none-Steam games, like Battlefront, to steam, is a pain in the rectum, but it really isn't that hard. Is there more to it than normally, when setting up a none-steam game for the controller? And did you get Battlefront to work btw? I also wanna add, that your review was great, you're not rambling at all, like you say. You really got me convinced on buying that cute little joystick.
+ExistentialEgg Isn't that basically because they haven't configured it the right way? Or is it more personal habits, you think? I'll check them out, as well as the rest of your stuff :)
+MÅNEMANN MÅNEMANN something seems to block steam overlay in origin games for some folks, even when origin overlay is disabled. Steam overlay is required for the controller to function.
+ExistentialEgg That sucks. Let's hope for a fix for that soon. I noticed that there're a lot of updates for the controller in the Steam updates. Are there a lot of bucks like that?
So at 7:20 where you demonstrate Lemma and the ability to hold the edges of the right pad to turn continuously. Does it bother you that you can't turn left as fast as it can turn right?
After having used one for a while, i was about to sell it, but this video has spurred me on to delve deeper into the settings. I bought it looking for an alternative to the Kb&M as my fingers can't take no mo! Thanks.
+mightlife It took a bit of time to adjust. It's... different. I'm not sure it would be best for all kinds of games but I'm warming up to it quite nicely.
@rambletan is it possible to get the right touchpad to work like a joystick? Where moving your finger back to the center will not move. I play a lot of third person games and want to be able to have it continuously move once I swipe far enough from the center.
+Impoxdragon The gyro is very impressive. In newer vids I use it to assist aim and to steer speederbikes in Battlefont. It adds a LOT to the experience.
+GoldFishBoy1337 ATR2100 Condenser mic + Behringer Xenyx 302USB Mixer. With the mixer preamp I can boost up the levels so I don't need to edit the audio at all. I just record it all and edit the video in Adobe Premiere. I did a mic comparison here: ua-cam.com/video/CUy7BH-phsY/v-deo.html
Has anybody had an issue with their controller where setting the vertical inversion on the mouse joystick does nothing? Horizontal still works as expected.
I felt the same way when I first started using the steam controller... "Oh damn, I suck at games again" like the first time I played a game using a twin stick setup. After playing around with it for a few hours though, tweaking profiles and thing... gotta say I really like the pad.
Gotta confess... Only had the pad for around 48 hours or so now. Put in the order full price a while back, had to wait ages for it to ship and arrive... The day I got it the pads and steam link went on sale lol :/ Not a bad thing though as I've ordered a few more. Its a really nice middle ground controller... not quite a mouse and keyboard, not quite as familiar feeling as a standard control pad BUT its so tweakable that even games that were never intended for couch and pad use work really well. The evening I got the thing, I sat tweaking a profile to play Vanilla wow with no UI add ons... It works... amazingly well :D As you say in the video... tweaking the pad is what really makes it. Not everybody likes tweaking settings but if you take time with the pad it really is a cracking experience :)
Great review. I noticed that more and more videos are beginning to understand this strange nature of the controller, which is so unique that must be used for quite a bit of time to be understood. First impressions/unboxing's are going to completely miss the point of this gamepad. To be fair, Valve has not done justice to some of the more advanced features of the gamepad, namely the gyro, which not all early users are aware of, plus there're driver features that grows costantly and adds features/fix issues so much that all reviews should be updated every now and then to be up to date... but well, from all I've seen so far the controller has a HUGE potential, the only real problems are the really steep learning curve and the necessity to rely on other people's profiles to avoid spending A LOT of time settings things up. The community have a big role on the success of this gamepad.
+ExistentialEgg I feel like that is the biggest problem of it. While I don't own a steam controller, If I were to make a review of a xbox controller after having only m/k experience, I would rate it terrible as it boasts little compared to the dynamic duo.
It would be so much better if people reviewing games with this controller would review games that do not have controller support. That's the whole purpose of this controller. That is the #1 reason anyone would use it over an Xbox One controller...
That doesn't apply to me so much. The vast majority of my library has controller support. I have other videos though with dayz, Squad,etc. Hell, in my last one I used it as a fishing rod.
+Deebo Guwop I agree totally cause any game that has controller support I'm going to use a standard Xbox one controller. I'm not going to use a steam controller. But I am going to use a steam controller on none controller PC games I want to play.
WITLESSMASS Yep. Exactly. Being able to play non-controller games is the only reason I'd use this over the Xbox One controller. (I have the elite so it definitely would be the only reason)
***** I have the elite too, it's awesome! I'm doing research on the steam controller right now to see what none controller games I can play with it. If I can't find anything I'm interested in playing, I'll skip the steam controller for now, because there is no need for it in regards to playing PC games that can already be played with a controller.
+Deebo Guwop I completely disagree and now that I'm used to it I'll use steam controller on every game because it is so much more accurate and has more options.
Gyro must be great to use with racing games. Bind the back panels to accelerate, left touch-pad click to brake, right touch-pad click to perform an action (Such as using a power up in Sonic All Stars Racing Transformed, for example), bind L1 to left drift and R1 to right drift.
+Blank ᅚ Yeah, I also find myself using the gryo a lot for FPS tweak aiming (bound to full left trigger pull). It's VERY accurate and you can mess with all the settings of it. I noticed in the most recent patch they also added in Roll Left / Right bindings too. So you could have yaw rotation for steering, then roll rotation for shifting or power ups or whatever. Pretty cool and awesome that they keep improving the mapping software.
It's great. Nothing is wearing out even though it gets near daily use. Software has improved GREATLY, still not perfect though. There are separate Action Sets now so in something like Arma I can have one set of controls for Infantry, hit Select, and then it switches to a completely different Flying set of controls. Really all I'm still waiting on are Taps and Holds for button assignments which they've stated in a June update are coming soon. All in all I'm tremendously impressed with the controller. I have a full playlist of Steam Controller vids on my channel if you are interested. I try to cover updates and go over any interesting features I come across.
totally agree with everything you just said, software need topush this thing so right, take some use and yes you will be spending hour in the configuration to set it done, and may have to repeat it for other game, but you get use to that too. i was working on a fallout 4 config for left handed i went nuts.
Hello there. I'm currently on Xbox Elite Controller and I'm curious how it compares to this one. What I'm especially looking forward to are gyro sensors and extreme customisation.. Do you have any experience with the controller I have? Also, can I customize controller settings in non-steam games?
I don't have the Elite. In fact, I don't even have an Xbox one. I have PS4 and 360 and then upgraded to Steam Controller. I personally feel like SC gives you the most bang for your buck with all the customization. If you watch more recent vids you can see that I've been covering all the updates it's gotten on the software side and it's pretty amazing what we can do now. You CAN customize for non-steam games but the caveat is that you need to add them into steam as non-steam shortcuts so the Steam Overlay functions (that's where the magic juice is for steam controller). Without the Steam Overlay it'll operate in "lizard" mode which means games will see it as a mouse and keyboard.
Wow, that was a fast answer :D. Now I'm wondering about those NS games. Can you, for example, export your settings and send it to me? I already know, that you can just upload them in steam games.
Also, that's the question that I should ask at the beggining? Is it worth switching to this controller when I'm not planning to play FPS games on it at all?
Yeah, profiles can be shared outside of steam. I've uploaded a few here: www.steamcontrollerdb.com/ And yeah, to me it's the best choice for PC gaming in general. I've used it as a gyro steering wheel in simulation games, great for FPS, excellent for building games designed only for mouse and keyboard, etc. ONLY games where I personally don't find it to be better are games designed to be analog stick twin stick shooters.
+ExistentialEgg yes. sadly Valve as done lousy job marketing the features or giving people any type of tutorials. same happened to gamer muscle. Bad first impression and now he has been killing many mouse players in CSGO Lol. Anyway I saw you had EURO truck 2. Would like to see a couple more games tested, including that one.
+Martin Fracker Yeah, that was recent addition. They didn't have that mode when I first got the controller in Oct. I've been impressed with their firmware support on it, they keep improving it.
I have never played on a normal controller, would this be worth buying? I like mouse and keyboard, but sometimes I want to lean back with a controller, and I have never liked the design of the standard console ones.
+Gavin Tang It would probably be perfect for you. The biggest hurdle most of us have with it is that we are immediately comparing and using it like a standard dual analog stick console controller. You just have to be patient with it because there are a LOT of settings tweaks you can make before you find the sweet spot that works for you.
So you would recommend this controller for those who would spend hours creating a control scheme for a game. The only problem that is keeping from buying is this price. I am not sure if you said this in the video but do you think it is worth the price?
+digitalMCP I think it is absolutely worth the price. It's cheaper than current gen controllers and can do MUCH more. And I don't think YOU need to spend hours creating schemes, more than likely one you want will be created but for folks like me, I get to fiddle and make schemes and then share them with everyone (profiles get uploaded to a Community page).
+ExistentialEgg I honestly didn't expect such a quick response. Well I won't get one one right now anyways because my computer is being glitchy. But as soon as I get it fixed it is on my to buy list. This review pushed me over the edge. Yours is the only I found that actually goes over what sort of settings you can put on it.
+digitalMCP Thanks. Yeah, I try to go over it in detail. It has a lot more features that have been added too since release. I have a whole Steam Controller playlist if you are curious about it. Link is up in the description.
rechargeable batteries are the same as battery packs lol.. like just friggin keep them charged. grab like 10 batteries and shuffle them as you charge them.. worth it. this controller already boasts 80 hours or more per charge like omg. if you run out of battery power or need more because of your play.. idk what to tell you.. you should NOT have nay problems if you keep it charged
+TheCrazyBadGamer my problem with battery packs is that they die over time and aren't as easy to change out. Like in my PS4 controller. It only holds a charge for about 3 hrs but you can't easily swap out the battery, you have to disassemble the controller to even get to it. I'd always prefer AAs with the option to buy my own rechargeables.
+Wacky Waving Inflatable Arm-Flailing Tube Man Yep, and it's freaking awesome. Check out the Battlefront vids I put up. I'm using gyro assisted aiming and it makes it SUPER accurate.
Hi Dan would you be able to do a profile for Hunt Showdown the games become very popular and i love playing, players seem to think mouse and keyboard is far superior but i recon the controller could be better, ive tried configuring using your vids and i did have it usable but i just tested my latest incarnation and when i use the right touch pad as well as moving i swap weapons,
I agree with a somewhat painful learning curve. I tried to go back to an Xbox one controller and it felt totally bizarre and I can't customize the thing.
Do you think you would successfully be able to use this in Arma 3? Getting most of the button features like you would almost with a Xpadder? Did the mode shifting work out for applying to other buttons? Recommend for it, yes, no? Thinking about purchasing one but only really play Arma 3!
+SeiZe ReZo I haven't committed fully to trying it in Arma 3 yet. I've only tinkered a bit. I was hoping they'd add in taps and holds so I could try to port my Xpadder profile as closely as I could. Mode shifting works but only while holding the shifting button so I couldn't make a "vehicle" set of controls how I have in my Arma xpadder profile. You'd have to make some compromises because the mapping software isn't QUITE as robust as xpadder yet but yes, I think it would work fine.
Okay Sweet thanks for the tip! Also im working on getting my 360 controller that has a Xpadder profile into Arma 3. I have a profile already saved from someone else's mapped layout I copied and pasted. I just don't know how to get the layout to use it in the game itself! Its been frustrating because all that is there is the enable controller feature in the game itself. How do i get the xpadder layout into the game? any advice? links? videos? really appreciate it! thanks for your fast response! +1 follower for you.
+SeiZe ReZo If you are using xpadder for Arma you actually want to DISABLE controller support in the game. Xpadder is handling it and as far as the game is concerned you are still using a mouse and keyboard (those commands are mapped into xpadder). IMPORTANT: goto Arma 3 menu. Disable any detected Controllers in Arma 3: Configure / Controls / Controller / Disabled (both sets) I also have xpadder tutorials and an Arma 3 profile for xpadder on my channel. ua-cam.com/video/QogiBH7ITPE/v-deo.html
+ExistentialEgg When I have it disabled then my controller doesn't work at all. Do I have to have Xpadder running at the same time or how does it link it to that game?
+SeiZe ReZo Yes, xpadder needs to be running in the bg. And it may even require to be run as admin if it's still not working in Arma 3. You can make sure xpadder is working before launching the game by moving the right stick, it should move your mouse cursor even while on Desktop.
+Mordor Orc Depends on what you want out of it. My money would be on this but I also have a 360 and PS4 controller. The only downside to this is that it can be a bit fussy to play with non-steam games (see my Battlefront vids) but all in all I'm very impressed with it.
see i love using a mouse and keyboard. im a mouse and keyboard kind of guy really depending on the game. shooter yes. adventure?? not so much like assassins creed lol. or fighting games play a fighting game sucks not having a controller. but this steam controller brings the precision of a mouse and keyboard into a controller .. its great
+TheCrazyBadGamer Yeah, after using it for a long time it feels really weird and clunky to go back to a dual stick controller. Valve made a fanboy out of me. I'm converted. :P
+sirhc221 A little bit. I had started to port over my Xpadder profile but it's going to be difficult. You can't assign separate sets of controls like in Xpadder so I can't have one set for infantry, one set for vehicles, etc. I could get it working for infantry but it might be difficult to get it configured now for everything. I was hoping they add in more options for user configs like sets, taps and holds, and so forth.
+ExistentialEgg interesting, just didn't know since its a PC controller so to speak i thought it might be easier to use in games like Arma 3. Never been a fan of the keyboard lol i still use your setup for Arma 3 in xpadder on my 360 controller...so far nothing beats it
I don't own that one but if you check my Steam Controller Playlist I play LOTS of games with Steam Controller. ua-cam.com/play/PLMV7bfY2SzbWX4Hl4NMUU-Gj4vsjfiyNw.html
i watch a lot of them too hehe, but i still have to build a pc to play my games i cant play T_T like GTAV, DS3, Witcher3, i mostly play Elder Scrolls Online with my mouse and keyboard, tried my Steam Controller and was really hard to find a good setting, although Portal 2 was awesome with the Steam Controller. i cant wait to try out BF1 when i get it. ill have to watch those videos again when i get back into gaming again
It's... clunky at first. For me at least it made an AWFUL first impression. I had to really stick with it for awhile before I started getting used to settings. Once I got used to it though it's become the best and most accurate controller I've ever used, to the point that I'm a bit concerned I won't like using a DS4 again if I pick up a PS4.
+Derek Furst It's a pain if you want to configure a controller while looking at keybindings in game since it doesn't play nice with windowed mode. If I'm heavily tweaking I would want the steam controller config open in one window and the game open in another window and split those up on my desktop. Not a deal breaker but I'm not alone in wanting to edit the controller outside of BPM.
ExistentialEgg A standalone config tool would indeed be nice, but since many of us launch our games through big picture mode anyway, for many its a nill point, and like you said, for the rest, its still not a huge deal haha
+Derek Furst yeah I like it too, also if you have the Steam app 'Controller Companion' you don't even need a wireless keyboard for your couch and can fire up big picture with a controller still. But I imagine I'm gonna have to disable that app once my Steam Controller arrives this week.
arghhh fuck my life... i got one and i need to get used to it.. i think if i put it next to my teddy bear in bed it might show me some love in the upcoming cold and awkward days..
+akeemy2k Not a lot yet but it will work. I won't be able to make it as robust as my Xpadder Arma 3 profile (where I have separate set for driving/flying) but I think it will work well. I was trying to get DayZ to feel good with it first and then I was going to use that profile as a foundation for Arma 3.
Both track pads could be a dpad (push click off or on, meaning you could just tap with the haptic feedback if you want), you could also bind dpad functions to left analog stick.
Nice to know on the dpad, but what I was interested in is can the d-pad on the left side work emulate a mouse cursor/trackball like the right touch pad can either to have one function as a cursor and the other for mouse look or both track pads function as a mouse just to add to the speed/or precision by utilizing both thumbs at once for increased motor skills same idea as twin analog really just applied track pad cursor movement.
I see a lot of programming potential in the steam controller though I know that much. Using the motion control for lean or strafe left and right and run walk for example seams like it could work very well and the fact that it can be toggled is a bonus. It would be even better if the shift paddles could change the motion controls to a entirely different profile setup though.
Yes, you can bind in the mouse more than once. I usually have it bound to Right Pad and also on Gyro. You can also have the mouse go to any position on the screen with the push of a single button (you define the position). The software has come leaps and bounds since this video. If you watch more recent vids you can see how much it's developed.
Cool I just wanted to make sure the left d-pad can also work in the same way as the right track pad for mouse look or cursor movement. I use a "cult fanatics" dual trackball setup left/right hand ;) So you know I wanted to know if I could actually emulate the twin trackballs with this controller's two touch pads good to know the software supports it. In a lot of cases I'm sure I'd prefer the d-pad software setup implementation. How functional is it for light web browsing and desktop usage tasks can it function fine as a actual desktop mouse?
+ExistentialEgg But the Heptic vibration don"t work in game> It does in the testing> I understand that some geek has found a software fix but Steam will not do it>
+Woogoo336 Yes, but currently only while in Big Picture Mode. You can config it, then launch the game out of big picture and your modified profile will load up but to edit the config, Big Picture Mode is required.
Someone has got to explain me why everyone says that the touch pads are good for shooters. This is a PC controller, you use a mouse to aim, not a controller no matter what. Wtf. Gonna get mine in a couple of days, hope it works well with monster hunter and Project cars lol
Once you get comfortable and competent with the touch pads they can be as accurate as a mouse, especially when combined with gyro for fine aim adjustments.
Yeah but then again, if I just think about anyone playing cs with a steam controller I can't help but feel like there's no way of him matching an equally skilled player with a mouse. While it has mouse-like accuracy for many top-down view games like civilization or Cities Skylines, that improved accuracy and customizability is actually the reason I got it instead of the xbone elite controller, but when it comes to shooters on PC it can't match a mouse in my opinion. Just wanna say you still did a great job with the video , I'm just some randy disagreeing with that particular point. :D
I was about to buy this from Steam but the handling & shipping is almost £8 alone bringing the price up to £48, no chance I'm paying almost £50 for a controller.
+Niall Higgins did u know normal controllers today are 150 yea that makes me think that a steam controller is so far by my info is the lowered price of controllers in the world others are 50 rarely some 60 mostly 90 so think about the steam controller
+Jake brandon Yeah, first impressions can kill it though. I think a lot of people won't like how it feels immediately and won't give it a chance. Like I said in the video, even I was unsure of it at first. It took some time to get used to it.
+De'torne Forbes I don't think so and if it did it would probably only be recognized as a standard controller and you'd not have all the customization you can get through the steam mapping software.
+Moritz K I beg your pardon? In what capacity? I have MANY vids on Steam Controller which cover updates and tweaks to the software. This still stands as a comprehensive overview for when I published it. It's from 5 months ago. I've been considering making a sort of post-review update but I would never edit this particular vid. I would just make an entirely new video that offers new insights.
Not trying to insult you or anything. I saw your comment in which you basically said you didn't like your "uhhhhh"s, so I thought you might understand what I was getting at. I actually cannot say anything about the content of this video, since I did not watch all of it. My comment was more about the editing and the format of your video. Seems like you didn't write a script for this video. That's okay if you are someone who can pull it off, but - as you said - you stumble a lot. So you either need to write a script beforehand or edit out any "uuuuuhhh"s. As I said, I didn't watch your whole video. But I bet that the information in this video could be summed up in 50% of its duration. I also urge you to look into the analytics of the video. I predict that the average watchtime is about four minutes and most of the views don't actually come from subscribers. I do UA-cam consulting for money, so I won't go further than that. I didn't want to insult you or anything. Just trying to help people make better content and you seemed like you knew already what you could improve (based on your own comment on the video).
+Moritz K Considering you didn't actually watch the video I find any input rather useless. This was intended to be a very comprehensive video, hence the length. I go into more detail than most review vids (which is abundantly apparent by most comments and likes on this vid) If you actually watch the video, you'd find that it's HEAVILY edited and produced, my stuttering and slow speech is my thing, clearly you don't enjoy it, which is absolutely fine.
ExistentialEgg I didn't watch *all* of it, but I did watch enough to find the flaws. If you think my input is rather useless, that's up to you. The length has nothing to do with the comprehensiveness of it. You could still give the information in (my guess) 60% of the videos length. The likes also don't have much to say. The voting participation on this video is (at the time of writing) 1,5%, with a hundred votes probably coming from subscribers. This is such a small percentage that you can't actually use this as analytical information. I know it is edited, since I watched enough of it. I am saying you should improve your format! That means either scripting or editing! You seem like you want to build up your youtube channel and even make money from it (via Patreon). What you take from my comments is up to you. Yes, the stuttering and stumbling is your problem, but it becomes the viewers as soon as they watch your content. Imagine you taking a ride on the bus and the thing just goes 20mph. The driver says "I'm just slow. That's my problem". Yeah that would suck... (this might sound a bit harsh, but I am trying to make a point. Again, I am not trying to insult or annoy you.) Since this is an informative video, not one that is made for entertainment purposes, I think most people don't watch it wanting to enjoy it. I don't enjoy watching your video the same way I don't enjoy watching a video on "how to install windows". It just has a whole different point!
+Moritz K You are not insulting or annoying me. I would argue the fact that you even FOUND this video is speaking to the success of my approach. My stutters and pauses are my style, I would never edit all of that out. The last thing I want is to be like every other rehearsed and bland infovid. That's what you seem to not get. I understand what you are saying, my content is not deficient (as you would clearly see it) out of ignorance or lack of trying. My slow speaking and long pauses are what makes my channel mine, that's what you aren't understanding. I'm not looking to change, I have continuous growth, and my content is often regarded as being of a higher quality than most.
I got mine from Steam direct because I had a preorder way back before it released. Depends on your country but I know Steam, Amazon, and some game retailers sell it.
ExistentialEgg My country is in the Steam International Orders list but on steam controller store page it says "Coming Soon". So i was just wondering if other people were getting that.
+FF Butz I can finish videos exactly when I want to!! Except when I start rambling... which is always. But yeah, I can't recommend it enough. I love it and pretty much use it exclusively now.
The downfall to this thing seems to be that most games now support the 360 controller and the 360 controller is basically "plug and play" (although not nearly as accurate as a keyboard/mouse). Now, on titles that absolutely don't support the 360 controller, this thing seems like a good idea. But, since the vast majority of games I play work with the controller I don't think I will get one. Even if it is more accurate/mouse-like.
+Anthony Shabrack If you are content with a 360 then yeah, it won't be a big deal. However, now that I've gotten used to it more I feel like it has more potential than any other controller I've used before. It takes some time to get used to but in the end I feel like for most games if players went head to head the steam controller would come out on top, only trumped by very fast mouse players.
+ExistentialEgg Yes, I ment to mention that in competitive multi-player games I can see it being very beneficial against your typical mouse & keyboard player.
+oneOfour I like the DS4 but Steam Controller wins hands down for me because it has more features and more customization and ends up being far more precise.
+ExistentialEgg There are just too many things I don't like about the steam controller right now, the glossy surface, cheap look, the haptic, battery, no real drivers outside of steam, also the controller is way too loud for my taste. I've been also hyped about the controller at first and Valve did a pretty decent job for a first try but the Dualshock 4 is way superior controller, the best controller I ever played with. Perhaps in some years, when new revision is released I give a another try. But hey, it's only my opinion. ;)
+jjtonelli Plug in and play and it'll work fine for pretty much any game. All the tweaks are there for power users who want more control (like me as an Xpadder profile creator).
+ExistentialEgg idk man 4 hours of getting used to how it functions, and odd backwards shape as opposed to most controllers. and what about metal gear 5 not working properly with the mouse function, that doesn't really seem like plug and play to me and i dont wanna change little settings like that between games all the time.
+jjtonelli That's why there's "Mouse Like Joystick". And you don't change them between games all the time.. you set the profile once and then it switches automatically per game.
+ExistentialEgg well then i stand by my point that it is not plug and play if i have to create profiles for individual games even if its just one time. i understand that in many scenarios peripheral profiles are very useful and i've even used them in the past even going as far as having 4 macro keys for most of my games, but plug and play is 2 steps step 1 plug step 2 play. no step 1.5 troubleshoot controller activity for each game and create specific profile for best functionality.
+jjtonelli More than likely a power-user (like me) has already created a profile for the game. And most of the bigger games are currently getting dev approved profiles catered specifically to their games. But eh, whatever, you're clearly not receptive to the controller which is fine. I personally find it to be hands-down the best PC game controller I've ever used due to it's customizable nature.
I was a little unsure at first but the more I use it the more I like it. To the point that I now consider it easily to be the best and most accurate controller I've ever owned.
Thank goodness somebody made a review after they'd actually practised with the controller for a bit! Thanks, this was very helpful.
+OrochiCr almost every review I've seen comes down to "this isn't an xbox controller, I only want an xbox controller. 0/10"
+Jack Plays Yes. I've been looking for reviews for weeks, it seems like most people just plugged it in and tried it on 1 or 2 games for 10 minutes. Hopefully more reviews by people that have actually used the damn thing start showing up.
If folks are still new to this vid, I also just wanted to point out that I'm STILL on the original AA Batteries... This thing must operate on voodoo magic. I'm using it quite a lot too. I haven't kept a full tally but JUST in Fallout 4 I'm already at 36 hrs of play time and all of that is on the Steam Controller.
+ExistentialEgg What is your profile for Fallout 4 like? I was pretty unhappy with the Official Bethesda Steam Controller Profile.
+nathan cooley I put right pad to be mouse-joystick with fast accuracy and an outer ring to be like a joystick for continuous movement and I made double tap on right pad for pipboy or double tap hold for flashlight. Gyro aim on left trigger full pull. Everything else is basic controller. You can find it in community profiles for F4, it's got my name in the title.
+ExistentialEgg It's supposed to get and average of 80 hours battery life. It really blows the other controllers out of the water
+ExistentialEgg Hey mate, I am currently debating whether to buy the steam controller or a standard PS3 controller. What would your advice be?
Depends on what you want out of it. I'd say Steam Controller because it has more potential BUT it also has more of a learning curve and can be a little finicky with non-steam games.
"It felt so comfortable to squeeze it" :D
+Tanner Bond tee hee :P
+Tanner Bond
"I couldn't believe it!"
Finally, an in-depth review. This makes channels like IGN and LinusTechTips look complete amateur hour.
+Xaionik Thanks! I made it a point to take my time with it and put it through its paces.
Digging in the profile is I think, a good idea. Also using it as a steam controller instead of expecting to emulate a XBox controller give some pretty interesting result I think.
My last try is to use only the pad for the control .. not the stick. like the first prototype of steam controller and combining this with an alternate control. Which mean the left pad act as a motion/stick when touching and as a Dpad when clicking.. And the right pad act as a camera/mouse when touching and as XYAB when clicking. So it's possible to play about every game while keeping the thumbs on the pads. Doing this also free one stick and four button to map something else. and there are still the paddle in the back remaining too.
We can go crazy like touching the pad to control a camera/mouse, clicking in the middle start the gyro and click up/down/left right as ABXY and we can still add an other function for the outside ring. It mean we can control 6 button and two axis with only one pad... And the pad is large enough to get the expected function every time.
I do feel like it may be a total revolution and it definitively worth spending little time learning it.
+Eric Jacques (Leucome) There's definitely more to it than meets the eye. When you dig in under the hood it's pretty crazy how much we can tweak. Still a few things missing to make it perfect (taps and holds) but it's nearly there.
Yeah a hold/toggle function would be pretty useful. And it might come soon they seem to add new feature all the time.
your reviews on the steam control has made me want to get one, very good review thanks for taking time to actually learn to use it rather than the damn ‘unboxing vids’ where some fool knows nothing and then says "its not the thing i use" like that is remotely helpful.
you are a gentleman and a scholar
+Steven Prince Thanks. Yeah, I noticed a lot of rushed vids that weren't very informative so I took a few weeks to get used to it first before reviewing it.
An actual steam controller review it's a miracle! Not an unboxing ( box review) or unboxing/steam controller review (let's not use it, just look at it and call it a review plus talk about the stupid box) Thank you for doing an actual review. Hope to pick up a steam controller soon. think it will be a good fit for me.
Thanks for digging the vid. I'd point out too that pretty much all of my complaints on the software (taps, holds, separate action sets) have been patched in since its original release.
Good to know on the software side, looks like I picked a good time to get one.
This is how you make a video, zero flash, all substance. Subscribed.
Thanks!
+ExistentialEgg I wish more channels were like this. Giving actual information instead of reading press releases and filling time with terrible jokes and cringeworthy dialogue. Bravo sir
I can't promise that my other vids won't have terrible jokes or cringeworthy dialogue... we'll have to play it by ear. :P
I feel that this review made it very easy for someone to really get a feel for the controller themselves through your exploration. Very well done and thank you
+Zachary Q Thanks. I tried to best to make it informative and thorough.
After a few games completed you can configure any game in less than 5 mins, then as you play the game you tune it to perfection.
Everybody goes: Excited > Frustrated > A-fucking-mazed
Especialy when you play games that controll simmilayr you can just easily transfer config from one game to another and maybe do two tweaks and be ready to play.
I was so heartbroken when Steam discontinued it. I am glad I have both Controller and Steam Link. I honestly believe this is the best overall controller to my liking. I wish someone would pick it up and evolve it, refine it features.
Also, the software is massively impressive and I do love it, it is possible to play a lot of keyboard and mouse exclusive games on this controller. The haptic feedback and gyro is amazing. This these will certainly be a hell of a legacy for those that utilized it full potential.
This is the best video I've seen on the Steam Controller. Great job man! Almost every video I've seen is people just rushing to get their views seen before even truly knowing what this little monster can do.
I was tempted to try and rush to get an impressions video up but figured it would be much more helpful to wait a bit and put out a comprehensive review even if it doesn't get as many views.
Actually shows what the thing is really like unlike most videos- cant wait for mine! Thanks man.
I appreciate how you put timers that separate the sections of your video. Keep up the good work man.
+brianimates Thanks! :)
lol at 'trackball cult'.
Battlefront had native controller support in the beta, so the buttons shouldn't be an issue at least.
This is one of the best videos I've seen on this controller! Thanks for making it!!
Glad you found it useful.
I know this is alot late but I really loved your review it really helped me fully understand that this was the controller that I have been looking for a semi alternative for a controller and a wheel. Thanks soo much...
+Jonathan Nusbaum Never too late for compliments. Thanks. It's nice to know people appreciate my efforts. As an aside, my grumbles about the software have been patched in so it's even more impressive now.
finaly a great video! nice verdict! i've seen a FEAR video on steam controller quite unreal too, you should try socom source for insurgency with it
FYI on the mode shifting, you can shift the stick and ABXY buttons, and even the gyro as well. Great review though, I definitely appreciate you taking time to get used to it and learn it's quirks, rather than jumping on a quick first impression and never following up like so many I've seen.
Battlefront runs great with it, BTW :) Easiest way I got it running was adding Origin.exe as a non-Steam game, then launching Battlefront from there. Just turn off the Origin overlay, and maybe have Origin exit when you exit the game to keep things from getting too frustrating. It does alright with Gamepad with High Precision Camera/Aim, though I felt the hand-off between the two added some "resistance" to the mouse. Not MGS5 or Skryim's complete lack of mouse input bad, but it definitely felt a bit more sluggish and needed higher sensitivity. But using it in Keyboard and Mouse mode felt great, and you can even set it up to mimic the gamepad layout if that's more comfortable to you.
+8-Bit Cerberus Hmm.. I could have SWORN that mode shifting wouldn't work for ABXY. I wonder if that was a recent'ish firmware update or maybe I just got hung up and confused because I know you can't do Taps and Holds yet and that's really what bothers me the most.
Yeah, I definitely plan to play Battlefront with it, probably in mouse precision mode. Interesting to add Origin into Steam. Any particular benefit or reason doing it that way instead of adding Battlefront.exe into steam?
ExistentialEgg The only benefit is if the executable needs Origin to authorize it for whatever reason. The beta did not need to be loaded through Origin, but no telling what's going to happen with the release. I know games like Battlefield 4 generally don't work so well just adding their executable to Steam, and adding Origin then launching BF4 from there seems to cure any ails.
Hoping a recent update hasn't removed the mode shifting on ABXY o.O We finally got them to add it to the triggers (still hoping for the bumpers and grips eventually, too) so they best not be taking it away from somewhere else...
Ok, whew! Just checked and still is available in the latest beta client.
Now if I can just get them to fix and bring back the "Stick Mouse" input type. That one would be ideal for aRPGs and MOBAs if they can get it working properly. It would basically "stick" the mouse cursor at center screen, and you could move it around, then it would snap back to center screen when you let go. Set the sensitivity low so it can't travel too far, and you've got a great joystick based movement for those types of games. Map the mouse click to the outer ring, or just hold down whatever you map to left mouse. Keepin' the dream alive.
Awesome video. Can't wait to see what you do with this thing.
You finally pushed me over the edge on this and I ordered it on sale on Amazon along with an HDMI cable.
It's totally worth it. It's improved quite a bit since this vid too. They've added in action sets for more advanced configurations and lots of other tweaks that I usually cover in my other vids. Actually just put up a vid playing Dead Island with gyro controls and it's so much fun.
ExistentialEgg I'm glad that Prime has free 2-day shipping, so I can get it even sooner. All my usual games should play well on this, and a few games I haven't played in a while might be able to be revitalized with the controller.
I'm still a little hesitant, but am asking for one for my birthday based on your review. You earned a new subscriber! :)
+Daggerborn I went from pre-order fanboy, to reluctant early subscriber, to well-seasoned fanboy. It made a pretty awful first impression but the more I use it the less I ever want to use dual analogs again. I'd say currently the only real weakness of it would be using the left pad as dpad. I haven't gotten used to that yet.
ExistentialEgg, when it comes to info on the Steam controller - you provide the best videos, the most detailed analysis, the most informative tips, and the best profiles - you da man! Steam should really pay you a salary for sales/marketing. If it weren't for your videos, I would have never purchased one, no b.s.
+Derek Moore (SMOKE) Thanks a lot! I try to be very informative with my Steam Controller vids and it's something I enjoy fiddling with so win win for me. :P I've actually been accused a few times of being a paid plant for Valve. Heh, no no no, I just like the controller so I guess it shows but I also make sure to go over the things that bother me about it too. It's very good but not perfect.
+ExistentialEgg That's why your Steam controller videos are as good as they are - because we can tell that you're just a regular dude with no bias, who goes out of his way to produce high quality in depth full reviews, tips, guides, and more. You're a great help to those of us in need of the truth about it. On top of that you're a one stop shop for setups and configuration, experimentation. And your presentation is professional quality. Just wanted to say thank you sir for being an invaluable resource. I link your videos on forums that cover the topic of controller issues in PC games. You single handedly saved games like Star Wars Battlefront and SQUAD for people like me who have a PC, no consoles, but got our gaming experience over the years on consoles and therefore learned to use a controller as an extension of our bodies and seek out a controller experience in the PC games that snub proper controller support. Again, thank you.
+Derek Moore (SMOKE) *blushes*
Half of learning new games will be figuring out the best way to config your controller.
This is true. And it's one of my favorite parts. I personally love finding the obscure crap I own that doesn't have a community profile yet, then spending a few hours just honing in a configuration that feels right to me.
Very interesting review! I'm liking the combination of speed and precision it gives for things like FPS's (although I'd probably still prefer mouse & keyboard, being old and stuck in my ways :)). Sorry if you answered this already and I missed it, but does it allow sharing of custom profiles? Seems like it would be a good way to get people up to speed (particularly those that don't want to mess with the settings) if they had access to a well set up profile for the particular game they're playing.
+GearBlocks Profiles are tied to the game in Big Picture Mode. There doesn't seem to be an easy way to link to or share them individually (yet). So for now, I need to go into BPM / Configure Controller / Browse Community and then you can see what other players have made for that game. Where it's going to be a problem is for something like GearBlocks that isn't in Steam right now. I can add it as a non-steam game but I don't think anyone else could view that profile because it's not integrated into the steam ecosphere. Though I bet GearBlocks could work out VERY well with the Steam Controller. :)
Great vid, it's preparing me for the steam controler which I will be receiving on the tenth.
And you liking it?
***** Loving it so far, but on Portal 2 the analogue stick isn't moving anything at all, I had to rebind the analogue stick to act as a D-pad so i can only walk in 4 directions and diagonal.
This was an awesome review, and really helped me try to decide whether I want one. Great job! :)
+Andrew Thanks, this was back when it launched. It's gotten a lot of updates too. I have a whole playlist of vids up in the description if you want to know more about it.
+ExistentialEgg I've been taking a look at quite a few of them, as well as some other videos from your channel. I knew it was customizable, but I had no idea it was *so* customizable! I'm definitely going to pick one up when I go out tomorrow :)
Awesome... Don't be so negative on yourself mate. The people that are going to watch the whole video are the people like myself and yourself who really wants to learn and are patient enough to sit through it. The others won't sit around anyway. I call them McDonalds Mentality. "If it's not ready in 5 min, I'm moving on"
Great video, makes me want mine even more now.
Great video Egg, I really enjoyed this review. It seems like every other video is just an unboxing and them trying it out without playing anything. I'll probably stick to a 360 controller for my PC Gaming controller needs, but this a cool little controller nonetheless.
I really like gyro function in that! Cool feature! Btw, cool and helpful video, I'll buy that now. :) ;) +1 Sub.
Thanks. :)
Excellent review, and I'm only a few minutes in. Thank you.
Glad you enjoy it.
ExistentialEgg Your review made me realize that I didn't need a review to know if I'd like it. Knowing about the ability to customize it that you seem to be the only one to go in depth for made me decide to get one. Pity they're out of stock on amazon.com hahaha.
+Joshua K. Pearson You can customize a LOT on it and they keep adding more. It's not perfect and doesn't rival Xpadder yet but it's easily the best PC controller (imho) because it doesn't require a separate program like Xpadder, it comes with the software built in.
You make it sound like adding none-Steam games, like Battlefront, to steam, is a pain in the rectum, but it really isn't that hard. Is there more to it than normally, when setting up a none-steam game for the controller? And did you get Battlefront to work btw?
I also wanna add, that your review was great, you're not rambling at all, like you say. You really got me convinced on buying that cute little joystick.
Yeah. I have vids specifically for Steam controller and battlefront. I got it working but others seem to have some troubles.
+ExistentialEgg Isn't that basically because they haven't configured it the right way? Or is it more personal habits, you think? I'll check them out, as well as the rest of your stuff :)
+MÅNEMANN MÅNEMANN something seems to block steam overlay in origin games for some folks, even when origin overlay is disabled. Steam overlay is required for the controller to function.
+ExistentialEgg That sucks. Let's hope for a fix for that soon. I noticed that there're a lot of updates for the controller in the Steam updates. Are there a lot of bucks like that?
So at 7:20 where you demonstrate Lemma and the ability to hold the edges of the right pad to turn continuously. Does it bother you that you can't turn left as fast as it can turn right?
Mine is the same on both sides. Depends on how far on edge I am.
After having used one for a while, i was about to sell it, but this video has spurred me on to delve deeper into the settings.
I bought it looking for an alternative to the Kb&M as my fingers can't take no mo!
Thanks.
+mightlife It took a bit of time to adjust. It's... different. I'm not sure it would be best for all kinds of games but I'm warming up to it quite nicely.
@rambletan is it possible to get the right touchpad to work like a joystick? Where moving your finger back to the center will not move. I play a lot of third person games and want to be able to have it continuously move once I swipe far enough from the center.
I didn't know that it had gyro and they way you showed it has sold me on the controller.
+Impoxdragon The gyro is very impressive. In newer vids I use it to assist aim and to steer speederbikes in Battlefont. It adds a LOT to the experience.
What type of mic do you use, and do you edit the audio at all (with Audacity for example)?
+GoldFishBoy1337 ATR2100 Condenser mic + Behringer Xenyx 302USB Mixer. With the mixer preamp I can boost up the levels so I don't need to edit the audio at all. I just record it all and edit the video in Adobe Premiere. I did a mic comparison here: ua-cam.com/video/CUy7BH-phsY/v-deo.html
Has anybody had an issue with their controller where setting the vertical inversion on the mouse joystick does nothing? Horizontal still works as expected.
I felt the same way when I first started using the steam controller... "Oh damn, I suck at games again" like the first time I played a game using a twin stick setup. After playing around with it for a few hours though, tweaking profiles and thing... gotta say I really like the pad.
Yeah, it took some time to get used to. NOW? I play literally every game with it. :D
Gotta confess... Only had the pad for around 48 hours or so now. Put in the order full price a while back, had to wait ages for it to ship and arrive... The day I got it the pads and steam link went on sale lol :/ Not a bad thing though as I've ordered a few more.
Its a really nice middle ground controller... not quite a mouse and keyboard, not quite as familiar feeling as a standard control pad BUT its so tweakable that even games that were never intended for couch and pad use work really well. The evening I got the thing, I sat tweaking a profile to play Vanilla wow with no UI add ons... It works... amazingly well :D
As you say in the video... tweaking the pad is what really makes it. Not everybody likes tweaking settings but if you take time with the pad it really is a cracking experience :)
Just as an FYI, the software has come a LONG ways since this review. A lot of my newer vids will show you all it's capable of.
Nice review!
Great review. I noticed that more and more videos are beginning to understand this strange nature of the controller, which is so unique that must be used for quite a bit of time to be understood. First impressions/unboxing's are going to completely miss the point of this gamepad. To be fair, Valve has not done justice to some of the more advanced features of the gamepad, namely the gyro, which not all early users are aware of, plus there're driver features that grows costantly and adds features/fix issues so much that all reviews should be updated every now and then to be up to date... but well, from all I've seen so far the controller has a HUGE potential, the only real problems are the really steep learning curve and the necessity to rely on other people's profiles to avoid spending A LOT of time settings things up. The community have a big role on the success of this gamepad.
Yeah, it's an awesome controller. It just makes a lousy first impression.
+ExistentialEgg I feel like that is the biggest problem of it. While I don't own a steam controller, If I were to make a review of a xbox controller after having only m/k experience, I would rate it terrible as it boasts little compared to the dynamic duo.
It would be so much better if people reviewing games with this controller would review games that do not have controller support. That's the whole purpose of this controller. That is the #1 reason anyone would use it over an Xbox One controller...
That doesn't apply to me so much. The vast majority of my library has controller support. I have other videos though with dayz, Squad,etc. Hell, in my last one I used it as a fishing rod.
+Deebo Guwop I agree totally cause any game that has controller support I'm going to use a standard Xbox one controller. I'm not going to use a steam controller. But I am going to use a steam controller on none controller PC games I want to play.
WITLESSMASS Yep. Exactly. Being able to play non-controller games is the only reason I'd use this over the Xbox One controller. (I have the elite so it definitely would be the only reason)
***** I have the elite too, it's awesome! I'm doing research on the steam controller right now to see what none controller games I can play with it. If I can't find anything I'm interested in playing, I'll skip the steam controller for now, because there is no need for it in regards to playing PC games that can already be played with a controller.
+Deebo Guwop I completely disagree and now that I'm used to it I'll use steam controller on every game because it is so much more accurate and has more options.
Gyro must be great to use with racing games. Bind the back panels to accelerate, left touch-pad click to brake, right touch-pad click to perform an action (Such as using a power up in Sonic All Stars Racing Transformed, for example), bind L1 to left drift and R1 to right drift.
+Blank ᅚ Yeah, I also find myself using the gryo a lot for FPS tweak aiming (bound to full left trigger pull). It's VERY accurate and you can mess with all the settings of it. I noticed in the most recent patch they also added in Roll Left / Right bindings too. So you could have yaw rotation for steering, then roll rotation for shifting or power ups or whatever. Pretty cool and awesome that they keep improving the mapping software.
I just think the track ball and D-pad should have switched positions with the analog stick and ABXY
Your throat gargled at 2:18
I have gigantic tonsils that sometimes get in the way... that, or I'm secretly a MerMan. :P
you sound like the guy from the steam controller advert xD
Heh. Maybe I'd sound more official if I wrote out a script instead of bumbling through all my "uhhh" and "umm"s.
ExistentialEgg
ha maybe
I watched it, nice review. You've had it a lot longer now, how's it goin?
It's great. Nothing is wearing out even though it gets near daily use. Software has improved GREATLY, still not perfect though. There are separate Action Sets now so in something like Arma I can have one set of controls for Infantry, hit Select, and then it switches to a completely different Flying set of controls. Really all I'm still waiting on are Taps and Holds for button assignments which they've stated in a June update are coming soon. All in all I'm tremendously impressed with the controller. I have a full playlist of Steam Controller vids on my channel if you are interested. I try to cover updates and go over any interesting features I come across.
totally agree with everything you just said, software need topush this thing so right, take some use and yes you will be spending hour in the configuration to set it done, and may have to repeat it for other game, but you get use to that too.
i was working on a fallout 4 config for left handed i went nuts.
good extra view on your hands. That's a nice ''touch''.
Hello there. I'm currently on Xbox Elite Controller and I'm curious how it compares to this one. What I'm especially looking forward to are gyro sensors and extreme customisation.. Do you have any experience with the controller I have? Also, can I customize controller settings in non-steam games?
I don't have the Elite. In fact, I don't even have an Xbox one. I have PS4 and 360 and then upgraded to Steam Controller. I personally feel like SC gives you the most bang for your buck with all the customization. If you watch more recent vids you can see that I've been covering all the updates it's gotten on the software side and it's pretty amazing what we can do now. You CAN customize for non-steam games but the caveat is that you need to add them into steam as non-steam shortcuts so the Steam Overlay functions (that's where the magic juice is for steam controller). Without the Steam Overlay it'll operate in "lizard" mode which means games will see it as a mouse and keyboard.
Wow, that was a fast answer :D. Now I'm wondering about those NS games. Can you, for example, export your settings and send it to me? I already know, that you can just upload them in steam games.
Also, that's the question that I should ask at the beggining? Is it worth switching to this controller when I'm not planning to play FPS games on it at all?
Yeah, profiles can be shared outside of steam. I've uploaded a few here: www.steamcontrollerdb.com/
And yeah, to me it's the best choice for PC gaming in general. I've used it as a gyro steering wheel in simulation games, great for FPS, excellent for building games designed only for mouse and keyboard, etc. ONLY games where I personally don't find it to be better are games designed to be analog stick twin stick shooters.
OK, thank you again for your help :)
Good vid, just ordered mine.
+D3RF3LL Sweet. Just be patient with it if your first reaction is meh or frustration. I didn't take to it right away but now I love it.
+ExistentialEgg yes. sadly Valve as done lousy job marketing the features or giving people any type of tutorials. same happened to gamer muscle. Bad first impression and now he has been killing many mouse players in CSGO Lol. Anyway I saw you had EURO truck 2. Would like to see a couple more games tested, including that one.
Great job!
thanks for the vid....i got it last night and tweak it....works well for me on fall out 4
+roy g Yeah, I'm loving it for Fallout4
Mouse joystick is also useful when you want the game to stop switching to keyboard hints everytime you touch the trackpad.
+Martin Fracker Yeah, that was recent addition. They didn't have that mode when I first got the controller in Oct. I've been impressed with their firmware support on it, they keep improving it.
I have never played on a normal controller, would this be worth buying? I like mouse and keyboard, but sometimes I want to lean back with a controller, and I have never liked the design of the standard console ones.
+Gavin Tang It would probably be perfect for you. The biggest hurdle most of us have with it is that we are immediately comparing and using it like a standard dual analog stick console controller. You just have to be patient with it because there are a LOT of settings tweaks you can make before you find the sweet spot that works for you.
So you would recommend this controller for those who would spend hours creating a control scheme for a game. The only problem that is keeping from buying is this price. I am not sure if you said this in the video but do you think it is worth the price?
+digitalMCP I think it is absolutely worth the price. It's cheaper than current gen controllers and can do MUCH more. And I don't think YOU need to spend hours creating schemes, more than likely one you want will be created but for folks like me, I get to fiddle and make schemes and then share them with everyone (profiles get uploaded to a Community page).
+ExistentialEgg I honestly didn't expect such a quick response. Well I won't get one one right now anyways because my computer is being glitchy. But as soon as I get it fixed it is on my to buy list. This review pushed me over the edge. Yours is the only I found that actually goes over what sort of settings you can put on it.
+digitalMCP Thanks. Yeah, I try to go over it in detail. It has a lot more features that have been added too since release. I have a whole Steam Controller playlist if you are curious about it. Link is up in the description.
Love that it has batteries
What if I can't add a game into steam?
Is the default mapping (in a game) like the xbox version (or completely different)
rechargeable batteries are the same as battery packs lol.. like just friggin keep them charged. grab like 10 batteries and shuffle them as you charge them.. worth it. this controller already boasts 80 hours or more per charge like omg. if you run out of battery power or need more because of your play.. idk what to tell you.. you should NOT have nay problems if you keep it charged
+TheCrazyBadGamer my problem with battery packs is that they die over time and aren't as easy to change out. Like in my PS4 controller. It only holds a charge for about 3 hrs but you can't easily swap out the battery, you have to disassemble the controller to even get to it. I'd always prefer AAs with the option to buy my own rechargeables.
wait, this controller has motion control? So I can use motion control in any game?
+Wacky Waving Inflatable Arm-Flailing Tube Man Yep, and it's freaking awesome. Check out the Battlefront vids I put up. I'm using gyro assisted aiming and it makes it SUPER accurate.
2:19 i thought i made that sound haha
Digestive system gurgles ftw!
Hi Dan would you be able to do a profile for Hunt Showdown the games become very popular and i love playing, players seem to think mouse and keyboard is far superior but i recon the controller could be better, ive tried configuring using your vids and i did have it usable but i just tested my latest incarnation and when i use the right touch pad as well as moving i swap weapons,
I agree with a somewhat painful learning curve. I tried to go back to an Xbox one controller and it felt totally bizarre and I can't customize the thing.
maybe if a 3rd party software like xpadder came out for this it would help overcome the limitations you mentioned?
Trackball rulz M570 FTW!!!
You!! You're one of those trackball weirdo cultists!? *backs away slowly
+ExistentialEgg Feel free to join us, we are precise that's why we have hope for the new World control-ler.. 0_-
Two years later..
Do you think you would successfully be able to use this in Arma 3? Getting most of the button features like you would almost with a Xpadder? Did the mode shifting work out for applying to other buttons? Recommend for it, yes, no? Thinking about purchasing one but only really play Arma 3!
+SeiZe ReZo I haven't committed fully to trying it in Arma 3 yet. I've only tinkered a bit. I was hoping they'd add in taps and holds so I could try to port my Xpadder profile as closely as I could. Mode shifting works but only while holding the shifting button so I couldn't make a "vehicle" set of controls how I have in my Arma xpadder profile. You'd have to make some compromises because the mapping software isn't QUITE as robust as xpadder yet but yes, I think it would work fine.
Okay Sweet thanks for the tip! Also im working on getting my 360 controller that has a Xpadder profile into Arma 3. I have a profile already saved from someone else's mapped layout I copied and pasted. I just don't know how to get the layout to use it in the game itself! Its been frustrating because all that is there is the enable controller feature in the game itself. How do i get the xpadder layout into the game? any advice? links? videos? really appreciate it! thanks for your fast response! +1 follower for you.
+SeiZe ReZo If you are using xpadder for Arma you actually want to DISABLE controller support in the game. Xpadder is handling it and as far as the game is concerned you are still using a mouse and keyboard (those commands are mapped into xpadder). IMPORTANT: goto Arma 3 menu. Disable any detected Controllers in Arma 3: Configure / Controls / Controller / Disabled (both sets)
I also have xpadder tutorials and an Arma 3 profile for xpadder on my channel. ua-cam.com/video/QogiBH7ITPE/v-deo.html
+ExistentialEgg When I have it disabled then my controller doesn't work at all. Do I have to have Xpadder running at the same time or how does it link it to that game?
+SeiZe ReZo Yes, xpadder needs to be running in the bg. And it may even require to be run as admin if it's still not working in Arma 3. You can make sure xpadder is working before launching the game by moving the right stick, it should move your mouse cursor even while on Desktop.
I think I'm going to give this things a good try and buy one
So if I was to buy a controller for my PC should I get this or Xbox controller? Any suggestions? Thank you.
+Mordor Orc Depends on what you want out of it. My money would be on this but I also have a 360 and PS4 controller. The only downside to this is that it can be a bit fussy to play with non-steam games (see my Battlefront vids) but all in all I'm very impressed with it.
see i love using a mouse and keyboard. im a mouse and keyboard kind of guy really depending on the game. shooter yes. adventure?? not so much like assassins creed lol. or fighting games play a fighting game sucks not having a controller. but this steam controller brings the precision of a mouse and keyboard into a controller .. its great
+TheCrazyBadGamer Yeah, after using it for a long time it feels really weird and clunky to go back to a dual stick controller. Valve made a fanboy out of me. I'm converted. :P
I know you've used this on DayZ but have you tried it out on Arma 3 yet?
+sirhc221 A little bit. I had started to port over my Xpadder profile but it's going to be difficult. You can't assign separate sets of controls like in Xpadder so I can't have one set for infantry, one set for vehicles, etc. I could get it working for infantry but it might be difficult to get it configured now for everything. I was hoping they add in more options for user configs like sets, taps and holds, and so forth.
+ExistentialEgg interesting, just didn't know since its a PC controller so to speak i thought it might be easier to use in games like Arma 3. Never been a fan of the keyboard lol i still use your setup for Arma 3 in xpadder on my 360 controller...so far nothing beats it
maybe an old video, but do you have a steam controller video for games like StarBound??
I don't own that one but if you check my Steam Controller Playlist I play LOTS of games with Steam Controller. ua-cam.com/play/PLMV7bfY2SzbWX4Hl4NMUU-Gj4vsjfiyNw.html
i watch a lot of them too hehe, but i still have to build a pc to play my games i cant play T_T like GTAV, DS3, Witcher3, i mostly play Elder Scrolls Online with my mouse and keyboard, tried my Steam Controller and was really hard to find a good setting, although Portal 2 was awesome with the Steam Controller. i cant wait to try out BF1 when i get it. ill have to watch those videos again when i get back into gaming again
It's... clunky at first. For me at least it made an AWFUL first impression. I had to really stick with it for awhile before I started getting used to settings. Once I got used to it though it's become the best and most accurate controller I've ever used, to the point that I'm a bit concerned I won't like using a DS4 again if I pick up a PS4.
Lmao grumble grumble old man. Thanks for this vid. 👍
Love your content XD
Big picture mode honestly is pretty great though.
+Derek Furst It's a pain if you want to configure a controller while looking at keybindings in game since it doesn't play nice with windowed mode. If I'm heavily tweaking I would want the steam controller config open in one window and the game open in another window and split those up on my desktop. Not a deal breaker but I'm not alone in wanting to edit the controller outside of BPM.
ExistentialEgg A standalone config tool would indeed be nice, but since many of us launch our games through big picture mode anyway, for many its a nill point, and like you said, for the rest, its still not a huge deal haha
+Derek Furst yeah I like it too, also if you have the Steam app 'Controller Companion' you don't even need a wireless keyboard for your couch and can fire up big picture with a controller still. But I imagine I'm gonna have to disable that app once my Steam Controller arrives this week.
arghhh fuck my life... i got one and i need to get used to it.. i think if i put it next to my teddy bear in bed it might show me some love in the upcoming cold and awkward days..
Have you try playing it with Arma 3.I need your input before buying it.
+akeemy2k Not a lot yet but it will work. I won't be able to make it as robust as my Xpadder Arma 3 profile (where I have separate set for driving/flying) but I think it will work well. I was trying to get DayZ to feel good with it first and then I was going to use that profile as a foundation for Arma 3.
+ExistentialEgg ok thank you.I will wait until you configure it for arma 3
Can the trackball mode work with the dpad as well?
Both track pads could be a dpad (push click off or on, meaning you could just tap with the haptic feedback if you want), you could also bind dpad functions to left analog stick.
Nice to know on the dpad, but what I was interested in is can the d-pad on the left side work emulate a mouse cursor/trackball like the right touch pad can either to have one function as a cursor and the other for mouse look or both track pads function as a mouse just to add to the speed/or precision by utilizing both thumbs at once for increased motor skills same idea as twin analog really just applied track pad cursor movement.
I see a lot of programming potential in the steam controller though I know that much. Using the motion control for lean or strafe left and right and run walk for example seams like it could work very well and the fact that it can be toggled is a bonus. It would be even better if the shift paddles could change the motion controls to a entirely different profile setup though.
Yes, you can bind in the mouse more than once. I usually have it bound to Right Pad and also on Gyro. You can also have the mouse go to any position on the screen with the push of a single button (you define the position). The software has come leaps and bounds since this video. If you watch more recent vids you can see how much it's developed.
Cool I just wanted to make sure the left d-pad can also work in the same way as the right track pad for mouse look or cursor movement. I use a "cult fanatics" dual trackball setup left/right hand ;) So you know I wanted to know if I could actually emulate the twin trackballs with this controller's two touch pads good to know the software supports it. In a lot of cases I'm sure I'd prefer the d-pad software setup implementation. How functional is it for light web browsing and desktop usage tasks can it function fine as a actual desktop mouse?
The vibration don"t work in game,s even setting hapic up high.Any trick to get it working?
+Mrjaguar0 No, I don't think it's supported right now as traditional vibration rumble in games. Maybe in an update down the line.
+ExistentialEgg But the Heptic vibration don"t work in game> It does in the testing> I understand that some geek has found a software fix but Steam will not do it>
You can access the config screen in steam in game, right?
+Woogoo336 Yes, but currently only while in Big Picture Mode. You can config it, then launch the game out of big picture and your modified profile will load up but to edit the config, Big Picture Mode is required.
I'm OK with that. I like big picture. Thanks for thr reply.
You sounded like Kermit in the intro of your video
+minecraftdude456 My Kermit voice pops up from time to time in my vids... not always intentionally. :P
+ExistentialEgg lol
+ExistentialEgg you should test emulators with the Steam controller.
Are shift modifiers on all the buttons yet?
~X~shadow193 what are shift modifiers?
Nvm I know what they are
Someone has got to explain me why everyone says that the touch pads are good for shooters. This is a PC controller, you use a mouse to aim, not a controller no matter what. Wtf.
Gonna get mine in a couple of days, hope it works well with monster hunter and Project cars lol
Once you get comfortable and competent with the touch pads they can be as accurate as a mouse, especially when combined with gyro for fine aim adjustments.
Yeah but then again, if I just think about anyone playing cs with a steam controller I can't help but feel like there's no way of him matching an equally skilled player with a mouse. While it has mouse-like accuracy for many top-down view games like civilization or Cities Skylines, that improved accuracy and customizability is actually the reason I got it instead of the xbone elite controller, but when it comes to shooters on PC it can't match a mouse in my opinion.
Just wanna say you still did a great job with the video , I'm just some randy disagreeing with that particular point. :D
yes this is team fortress 2 youtube gaming
0:18 Kermit?
+Baleoce Yeah... he pops in from time to time. I'm usually not even TRYING to sound like Kermit, it's just.. me. :P
I was about to buy this from Steam but the handling & shipping is almost £8 alone bringing the price up to £48, no chance I'm paying almost £50 for a controller.
+Niall Higgins did u know normal controllers today are 150 yea that makes me think that a steam controller is so far by my info is the lowered price of controllers in the world others are 50 rarely some 60 mostly 90 so think about the steam controller
+Niall Higgins if you have dark souls 3 or plan on buying it, you can get the controller for £31.
Having not watched the video, are you an old man?
+happsider why are you asking?
Acting like I didn't watch the video, asking questions you already answered.
great vid
+Jake brandon Thanks, tried to be as thorough as possible.
much better than many reviewers.
I think it will only get better with time especially
the gyro and touchpads
+Jake brandon Yeah, first impressions can kill it though. I think a lot of people won't like how it feels immediately and won't give it a chance. Like I said in the video, even I was unsure of it at first. It took some time to get used to it.
I'm sure it will be easier once there are more community and dev configurations for games
is it worth sell xbox pad sake steam controller ?
+MrEleman if you are willing to deal with the learning curve yeah.
Jake brandon Ok. works with android?
i don't think android has steam. so i would guess not but i would look it up
So, what's the game at 7th min?
Lemma. A pretty cool parkour game.
ExistentialEgg Cheers, thought you said 'limo', and I couldn't find it :p
Heh, sorry, just my slurring Murrican!!!
Does this work with the XB1?
+De'torne Forbes I don't think so and if it did it would probably only be recognized as a standard controller and you'd not have all the customization you can get through the steam mapping software.
+ExistentialEgg okay cool.
+De'torne Forbes The Xbox One only uses the Xbox One controller. Nothing else (except the Kinect or the Xbox One Pro controller, of course).
what about games like archage or neverwinter.
I don't have those but I've played pretty much everything with Steam Controller and it works great as long as you can run the game with Steam Overlay.
You seriously need to edit this video or remake it!
+Moritz K I beg your pardon? In what capacity? I have MANY vids on Steam Controller which cover updates and tweaks to the software. This still stands as a comprehensive overview for when I published it. It's from 5 months ago. I've been considering making a sort of post-review update but I would never edit this particular vid. I would just make an entirely new video that offers new insights.
Not trying to insult you or anything. I saw your comment in which you basically said you didn't like your "uhhhhh"s, so I thought you might understand what I was getting at.
I actually cannot say anything about the content of this video, since I did not watch all of it. My comment was more about the editing and the format of your video.
Seems like you didn't write a script for this video. That's okay if you are someone who can pull it off, but - as you said - you stumble a lot. So you either need to write a script beforehand or edit out any "uuuuuhhh"s. As I said, I didn't watch your whole video. But I bet that the information in this video could be summed up in 50% of its duration.
I also urge you to look into the analytics of the video. I predict that the average watchtime is about four minutes and most of the views don't actually come from subscribers.
I do UA-cam consulting for money, so I won't go further than that. I didn't want to insult you or anything. Just trying to help people make better content and you seemed like you knew already what you could improve (based on your own comment on the video).
+Moritz K Considering you didn't actually watch the video I find any input rather useless. This was intended to be a very comprehensive video, hence the length. I go into more detail than most review vids (which is abundantly apparent by most comments and likes on this vid) If you actually watch the video, you'd find that it's HEAVILY edited and produced, my stuttering and slow speech is my thing, clearly you don't enjoy it, which is absolutely fine.
ExistentialEgg I didn't watch *all* of it, but I did watch enough to find the flaws. If you think my input is rather useless, that's up to you.
The length has nothing to do with the comprehensiveness of it. You could still give the information in (my guess) 60% of the videos length.
The likes also don't have much to say. The voting participation on this video is (at the time of writing) 1,5%, with a hundred votes probably coming from subscribers. This is such a small percentage that you can't actually use this as analytical information.
I know it is edited, since I watched enough of it. I am saying you should improve your format! That means either scripting or editing! You seem like you want to build up your youtube channel and even make money from it (via Patreon). What you take from my comments is up to you.
Yes, the stuttering and stumbling is your problem, but it becomes the viewers as soon as they watch your content. Imagine you taking a ride on the bus and the thing just goes 20mph. The driver says "I'm just slow. That's my problem". Yeah that would suck... (this might sound a bit harsh, but I am trying to make a point. Again, I am not trying to insult or annoy you.)
Since this is an informative video, not one that is made for entertainment purposes, I think most people don't watch it wanting to enjoy it. I don't enjoy watching your video the same way I don't enjoy watching a video on "how to install windows". It just has a whole different point!
+Moritz K You are not insulting or annoying me. I would argue the fact that you even FOUND this video is speaking to the success of my approach. My stutters and pauses are my style, I would never edit all of that out. The last thing I want is to be like every other rehearsed and bland infovid. That's what you seem to not get. I understand what you are saying, my content is not deficient (as you would clearly see it) out of ignorance or lack of trying. My slow speaking and long pauses are what makes my channel mine, that's what you aren't understanding. I'm not looking to change, I have continuous growth, and my content is often regarded as being of a higher quality than most.
where are people buying it?
I got mine from Steam direct because I had a preorder way back before it released. Depends on your country but I know Steam, Amazon, and some game retailers sell it.
ExistentialEgg My country is in the Steam International Orders list but on steam controller store page it says "Coming Soon". So i was just wondering if other people were getting that.
support your local shops if you can
Robot Game none of my local shops have it.
TheShaddes11 well then order it i got mine today and i like it alot but it will take some getting used to
You really don't know how to end a video do you? lol
+Derek Furst You have NO idea. Be thankful I heavily edit my stuff. I could drone on for hours.
+FF Butz I can finish videos exactly when I want to!! Except when I start rambling... which is always. But yeah, I can't recommend it enough. I love it and pretty much use it exclusively now.
The downfall to this thing seems to be that most games now support the 360 controller and the 360 controller is basically "plug and play" (although not nearly as accurate as a keyboard/mouse). Now, on titles that absolutely don't support the 360 controller, this thing seems like a good idea. But, since the vast majority of games I play work with the controller I don't think I will get one. Even if it is more accurate/mouse-like.
+Anthony Shabrack If you are content with a 360 then yeah, it won't be a big deal. However, now that I've gotten used to it more I feel like it has more potential than any other controller I've used before. It takes some time to get used to but in the end I feel like for most games if players went head to head the steam controller would come out on top, only trumped by very fast mouse players.
+ExistentialEgg Yes, I ment to mention that in competitive multi-player games I can see it being very beneficial against your typical mouse & keyboard player.
PS4 controller still best PC controller out there.
+oneOfour I like the DS4 but Steam Controller wins hands down for me because it has more features and more customization and ends up being far more precise.
+ExistentialEgg There are just too many things I don't like about the steam controller right now, the glossy surface, cheap look, the haptic, battery, no real drivers outside of steam, also the controller is way too loud for my taste. I've been also hyped about the controller at first and Valve did a pretty decent job for a first try but the Dualshock 4 is way superior controller, the best controller I ever played with. Perhaps in some years, when new revision is released I give a another try. But hey, it's only my opinion. ;)
soo many damn tweaks and exceptions just for this thing to work properly..... ill just stick with my dualshock 4... nice try i guess steam
+jjtonelli Plug in and play and it'll work fine for pretty much any game. All the tweaks are there for power users who want more control (like me as an Xpadder profile creator).
+ExistentialEgg idk man 4 hours of getting used to how it functions, and odd backwards shape as opposed to most controllers. and what about metal gear 5 not working properly with the mouse function, that doesn't really seem like plug and play to me and i dont wanna change little settings like that between games all the time.
+jjtonelli That's why there's "Mouse Like Joystick". And you don't change them between games all the time.. you set the profile once and then it switches automatically per game.
+ExistentialEgg well then i stand by my point that it is not plug and play if i have to create profiles for individual games even if its just one time. i understand that in many scenarios peripheral profiles are very useful and i've even used them in the past even going as far as having 4 macro keys for most of my games, but plug and play is 2 steps step 1 plug step 2 play. no step 1.5 troubleshoot controller activity for each game and create specific profile for best functionality.
+jjtonelli More than likely a power-user (like me) has already created a profile for the game. And most of the bigger games are currently getting dev approved profiles catered specifically to their games. But eh, whatever, you're clearly not receptive to the controller which is fine. I personally find it to be hands-down the best PC game controller I've ever used due to it's customizable nature.
worst controller ever! I've bought it and i'm gonna return it quick
I was a little unsure at first but the more I use it the more I like it. To the point that I now consider it easily to be the best and most accurate controller I've ever owned.