Thank lord he slows down at the end of each phrase...i'm studying the structure of this and his playing is perfect for this! Everybody else don't like to bring out the end of a phrase so much, but i think it's very natural for the classical era, because it's only a few years away from baroque where every phrase ended with a pompous cadence...that was the law!
Ivo Pogorelich is great, I mean his fingers are so curled and so expressive moreover unlike others he plays in such old nevertheless royal places which can make one go back to the time of composition.
When i first saw this pianist play i was dumbfounded by his stupendous (!) finger technique. But then i fell victim to all these silly critics slagging him off and i thought...maybe he ain't that good afterall then??? Now months later i'm relistening this and i know now for a fact that...IVO POGORELICH is a GREAT pianist!
For the XXth century, this guy is #1. Agreed that both Serkins are A+, also both Kempfs, also Gould, also van Gennip, Horowitz, and a few others I've omitted. Argerich and Letitisa too.
@chiehwenwang I love his passion and he plays the piano with full emotion! His rubato is great and yes, his technique is swift, him being able to move fluently across the keybaord. eople think that he treats every piece by any other composer rather than Liszt being just a showmanship. He's more than a showman. People also think that he plays Chopin pieces like Liszt's, that's not true. When I listen to him, I am able to feel what he's playing! I think he's all about emotion and technique!
@ThePianoguy89 I can't agree more. Lang Lang has a sensitive musical mind as well as a virtuoso's amazing technique. Few contemporary pianists in the world are on a par with him. :-)
major problem: Mozart calls for the theme and variations one through four to be performed at the same tempo, Andante Grazioso. the performer varies the tempo considerably here, especially between the theme and first variation.
The music is beautiful on its own, there is no need to exaggerate its beauty. Though, he's a skilled pianist, especially the third variation sounds so easy.
It's Pogorelich' trademark: relativity of time (which in the last years he brought to the extreme). In this case I agree with you... It annoyingly forces the listener to focus endlessly on a simple resolution.. I find it quite self-indulgent. (I am a big fan though)
@ThePianoguy89 Well said, but I guess one of Lang's tricks is that he plays a piece double the times the average professional pianist does, which allows him to focus on the music rather than the technique. :-)
De Ricamusica1: Excelente pianista, sin duda. Lástima que al inicio le imprime un suspenso que la pieza no tiene; es un Andante Grazioso, o sea Lento, pero con gracia; no tan pausado. Menos mal que en la 2a pte. el pianista retoma el exquisito jugueteo de notas, que se torna luego magistral con esos mordentes en octavas. Delicioso. Ni se diga del travieso diálogo expresivo que le sigue, en Lam, dulce y sinuosa, puerta de entrada para la 5a. Mi preferida, con esa trasposición de manos. ¡Wonderf!
@mellowords Since you're a piano student, may I ask if you can play music and make grimaces simultaneously? If you can't, that means you still have a mountain of practice to do. If you can, then you will certainly know that is a potential sign of artistic greatness. :-)
Yes this version is dramatized compared to some other versions I know. But he moved me, so I guess that counts ;). And the 3rd variation is so effortless, the playing is an art of its own.
Strictly from an traditionalist/academic perspective, obviously one can't argue with you on that point. Nevertheless, I find this performance highly satisfying and illuminating. It's quite moving and just plain beautiful. There are plenty of "correct" performances out there. For instance, I adore Mitsuko Uchida's Mozart. With Pogorelich you either hate him or love him. It's difficult to be indifferent towards him. That's a feat in of itself.
@paulomtts Lang Lang interprets pieces in his own unique way. I think he is incredible for his highly skilled technique and his agility. He is much more of a showman than an interpreter, but he gives a different edge to the piano. I am driven by the passion and the emotion that he gives when he is playing. I don't think there's a lot of pianists that can emote the way he does on a piano. Other pianists did too like Horowitz, Martha Argerich, Ivo Pogorelich, and Evgenny Kissin play emotively.
I don't know if Alicia DeLarrocha recorded this Sonata, but if she did, THAT would be the place to go. Also, Kissin is wonderful, but again, I don't know if he plays this one. And of course, there is Rubinstein - a great Mozart player. [Notice I didn't say 'interpreter'].
He is great! those who doesn't like his staccatos and changes of tempo, pleas, first take piano lessons and then we'll talk!! I think Mozart will be surely agreed with me!
@ yojopiano: you should listen more... you have to start slowly, because the second part is very fast.. althought, you won't keep the same rithm all along the piece.
regarding the left hand's 16th octave jumps (for lack of a better word) in the first variation , what is the significance alternating 1, 2, and 3 for the repeating notes? I'm learning this piece, and my fingering does say 1, 2, and 3, but I've been playing with my thumb. just curious..
@thecouchonfire It is to avoid the fatigue of your finger muscles and keep your every finger agile. By the way, please try to find something good in Lang Lang. You might find him to be a treasure in the end. :-)
@MagicMusicMe When you hear something "ridiculous," there are two possibilities emerging. One is that it is indeed "ridiculous"; the other is that it's apparently out of your league and you need to think hard to grasp it. :-) p.s. Please try to get to know Lang Lang more. You will find a true treasue in him.
@thecouchonfire Actually, the swings and expressions that have repulsed you indicate Lang Lang has mastered every detail of technique, so he has some strength left to plunge himself into the music proper and fully convey the musical ideas. Few pianists in the world can put through this kind of feat. If someday you ccould make some grimaces and play the notes well at the same time, it would mean you have succeeded at mastering the piano. :-)
Gould follows his own feeling to play that piece i admit that it's provocativ but at least he remains honest "we've to play Mozart as Chopin and Chopin as Mozart" S.Richter
Well HOW MANY different 'ways' can a piece be played? Is it INFINITE? And does it matter to you that Mozart had a SPECIFIC concept in mind when he COMPOSED his music?
Actually, the swings and expressions that have repulsed you indicate Lang Lang has mastered every detail of technique, so he has some strength left to plunge himself into the music proper and fully convey the musical ideas. Few pianists in the world can put through this kind of feat. If someday you ccould make some grimaces and play the notes well at the same time, it would mean you have succeeded at mastering the piano. :-)
I think his touch and control is amazing. He plays the piece very well. I wish he could do just a little less of the ritardandos at the end of phrases. They add a nice touch, but he uses a little too much.
As usually.. incredible touch, sound and control; but I find those ritardandos during the resolutions at the nd of the phrases of the mane theme a bit too narcisistic. I'm going to see him playing on june 24th in Germany!
ah, why does he play Mozart so slowly and sentimentally? where is breath, freedom and spontaneity, where does he take RISKS as displayed on early piano rolls of pianists from the 19th century such as Carl Reinecke. I completely agree with the comment of 'Fritz Maisenbacher' below.
I have always admired his playing...
He does justice to this classic...
I can't stop listening. His playing is special
Very beautiful...only by God's grace...a touch of heaven!
The best pianist EVER !
Pogorelic interprets so splendidly. He understands Mozart's sublime crestions.. effortless and ethereal. What a performance. Perfection.
This gives me so much inspiration! He's great!
Pogorelich was born to play the complete works of Scarlatti. Anything he does extra is a gift from God. (I'm still waiting for 141).
please upload the next part to. It is the best ones uploaded yet on the net with this sonata. Thank you. Peter.
THIS IS CROATIAN POWER. :D
Good job Ivo. Nadam se da će i dalje stizati ovakvi linkovi.
esecuzione di pogorelich chiara e pulita in ogni movimento
Thank lord he slows down at the end of each phrase...i'm studying the structure of this and his playing is perfect for this! Everybody else don't like to bring out the end of a phrase so much, but i think it's very natural for the classical era, because it's only a few years away from baroque where every phrase ended with a pompous cadence...that was the law!
Ivo je genije.
is amazing, the sound of the melody is more pure!!not words only listen
J'ai mis 25 ans pour le comprendre,et aujourd'hui j'aime beaucoup son jeu.
Il faut écouter son Scarlatti,-qui met tout le monde du clavier à genoux!
Que expressão de sentimentos ! :O
the best performance of the main theme i've seen here
Ivo Pogorelich is great, I mean his fingers are so curled and so expressive moreover unlike others he plays in such old nevertheless royal places which can make one go back to the time of composition.
Aaaahhh, the nostalgia...
I just love playing it, and I think it's the first time I hear it by someone else (other than my teacher) and it's just perfect... 5/5
He's one of the best! I wish I can meet him :)
When i first saw this pianist play i was dumbfounded by his stupendous (!) finger technique. But then i fell victim to all these silly critics slagging him off and i thought...maybe he ain't that good afterall then??? Now months later i'm relistening this and i know now for a fact that...IVO POGORELICH is a GREAT pianist!
For the XXth century, this guy is #1. Agreed that both Serkins are A+, also both Kempfs, also Gould, also van Gennip, Horowitz, and a few others I've omitted.
Argerich and Letitisa too.
Fantastico!!!
I learn this song right now... it changes temo quite alot..but it's so beautiful.. Var. 4 are the most beautiful..:)
A perfectionist.
@chiehwenwang I love his passion and he plays the piano with full emotion! His rubato is great and yes, his technique is swift, him being able to move fluently across the keybaord. eople think that he treats every piece by any other composer rather than Liszt being just a showmanship. He's more than a showman. People also think that he plays Chopin pieces like Liszt's, that's not true. When I listen to him, I am able to feel what he's playing! I think he's all about emotion and technique!
@ThePianoguy89 I can't agree more. Lang Lang has a sensitive musical mind as well as a virtuoso's amazing technique. Few contemporary pianists in the world are on a par with him. :-)
He is genius!!!
Ivo je najveći u istoriji,verovatno.
WONDERFUL!
@chiehwenwang Thank, I think people do not understand Lang Lang's piano gift! When he plays it is like the piano becomes a supernatural being!
major problem: Mozart calls for the theme and variations one through four to be performed at the same tempo, Andante Grazioso. the performer varies the tempo considerably here, especially between the theme and first variation.
I am astounded too
The music is beautiful on its own, there is no need to exaggerate its beauty. Though, he's a skilled pianist, especially the third variation sounds so easy.
It's Pogorelich' trademark: relativity of time (which in the last years he brought to the extreme). In this case I agree with you... It annoyingly forces the listener to focus endlessly on a simple resolution.. I find it quite self-indulgent. (I am a big fan though)
@ThePianoguy89 Well said, but I guess one of Lang's tricks is that he plays a piece double the times the average professional pianist does, which allows him to focus on the music rather than the technique. :-)
De Ricamusica1: Excelente pianista, sin duda. Lástima que al inicio le imprime un suspenso que la pieza no tiene; es un Andante Grazioso, o sea Lento, pero con gracia; no tan pausado. Menos mal que en la 2a pte. el pianista retoma el exquisito jugueteo de notas, que se torna luego magistral con esos mordentes en octavas. Delicioso. Ni se diga del travieso diálogo expresivo que le sigue, en Lam, dulce y sinuosa, puerta de entrada para la 5a. Mi preferida, con esa trasposición de manos. ¡Wonderf!
@mellowords Since you're a piano student, may I ask if you can play music and make grimaces simultaneously? If you can't, that means you still have a mountain of practice to do. If you can, then you will certainly know that is a potential sign of artistic greatness. :-)
Yes this version is dramatized compared to some other versions I know. But he moved me, so I guess that counts ;). And the 3rd variation is so effortless, the playing is an art of its own.
Strictly from an traditionalist/academic perspective, obviously one can't argue with you on that point. Nevertheless, I find this performance highly satisfying and illuminating. It's quite moving and just plain beautiful.
There are plenty of "correct" performances out there. For instance, I adore Mitsuko Uchida's Mozart. With Pogorelich you either hate him or love him. It's difficult to be indifferent towards him. That's a feat in of itself.
excelent, very cute work
@MagicMusicMe interest of the audience is the main aim of a musician
@polobuch BETTER KEEP THEM OPEN TO ENJOY HIS EXPRESSIVENESS AND MAGICAL HANDS.I LIKE THE CLASSICAL BACKGROUND ALSO!
@paulomtts Lang Lang interprets pieces in his own unique way. I think he is incredible for his highly skilled technique and his agility. He is much more of a showman than an interpreter, but he gives a different edge to the piano. I am driven by the passion and the emotion that he gives when he is playing. I don't think there's a lot of pianists that can emote the way he does on a piano. Other pianists did too like Horowitz, Martha Argerich, Ivo Pogorelich, and Evgenny Kissin play emotively.
I like it very much
nice played!
I think this is very good!
i would love to learn this song
Schiff is superb, right, have you ever heard Arrau's recording of the same piece?
I don't know if Alicia DeLarrocha recorded this Sonata, but if she did, THAT would be the place to go. Also, Kissin is wonderful, but again, I don't know if he plays this one. And of course, there is Rubinstein - a great Mozart player. [Notice I didn't say 'interpreter'].
Indeed, mozart was a child, but he was a very genious one ;)
He is great! those who doesn't like his staccatos and changes of tempo, pleas, first take piano lessons and then we'll talk!! I think Mozart will be surely agreed with me!
very nice
i thought about learning this piece but after hearing this i think i might not bother :P
@organman52: i onestly don't know how it would be right, but it sounds very good, very good feeling. pls explain why this isn't right
@ yojopiano: you should listen more... you have to start slowly, because the second part is very fast.. althought, you won't keep the same rithm all along the piece.
regarding the left hand's 16th octave jumps (for lack of a better word) in the first variation , what is the significance alternating 1, 2, and 3 for the repeating notes? I'm learning this piece, and my fingering does say 1, 2, and 3, but I've been playing with my thumb. just curious..
@thecouchonfire It is to avoid the fatigue of your finger muscles and keep your every finger agile. By the way, please try to find something good in Lang Lang. You might find him to be a treasure in the end. :-)
Hello! You fergot: that's hungry Mozart, that's A, that's march.
@araujo1 Wow, you can make swings and expressions when you play the piano? You must be an excellent pianist. :-)
@MagicMusicMe When you hear something "ridiculous," there are two possibilities emerging. One is that it is indeed "ridiculous"; the other is that it's apparently out of your league and you need to think hard to grasp it. :-) p.s. Please try to get to know Lang Lang more. You will find a true treasue in him.
danijela1973: Interesting comment that you need to be a pianist to be a critic. So, how many critics of Mozarts symphonies are conductors?
People, don't bother arguing with chiehwenwang about langlang, he is chinese.
The other variations? Is there a second part??
@thecouchonfire Actually, the swings and expressions that have repulsed you indicate Lang Lang has mastered every detail of technique, so he has some strength left to plunge himself into the music proper and fully convey the musical ideas. Few pianists in the world can put through this kind of feat. If someday you ccould make some grimaces and play the notes well at the same time, it would mean you have succeeded at mastering the piano. :-)
did you know how i can get the partiture of this sonata of mozart because i only found the part of allegretto and no this
Gould follows his own feeling to play that piece
i admit that it's provocativ but at least he remains honest
"we've to play Mozart as Chopin and Chopin as Mozart" S.Richter
is there any version online that you would suggest?
@paulomtts Now I know you are actually a gentleman. :-)
Well HOW MANY different 'ways' can a piece be played? Is it INFINITE? And does it matter to you that Mozart had a SPECIFIC concept in mind when he COMPOSED his music?
Anyone knows how to get piano score for this? I'm searching for it, but without luck... if there's anyone who knows, please, response...
wheres the last part =(( ?
Actually, the swings and expressions that have repulsed you indicate Lang Lang has mastered every detail of technique, so he has some strength left to plunge himself into the music proper and fully convey the musical ideas. Few pianists in the world can put through this kind of feat. If someday you ccould make some grimaces and play the notes well at the same time, it would mean you have succeeded at mastering the piano. :-)
y la segunda parte?
No żart chyba o.O gdzie jest koniec 5-tej i 6-sta wariacja?! o.O
What is wrong with all you people??!! I think he playes great!
Poetry.
anyone have the sheet music for the first movement?
@chiehwenwang
his expression isn't complete over-the-top bullshit like one would see in a lang lang performance
I think his touch and control is amazing. He plays the piece very well. I wish he could do just a little less of the ritardandos at the end of phrases. They add a nice touch, but he uses a little too much.
@chiehwenwang Im sorry I sounded like that. You're right.
@myjw100 I understand what you are saying, but, unfortunately, you were unable to understand what I was really saying, which is "So Sad" too.
As usually.. incredible touch, sound and control; but I find those ritardandos during the resolutions at the nd of the phrases of the mane theme a bit too narcisistic. I'm going to see him playing on june 24th in Germany!
His hands sometimes look like Landowskas "claws" :-D
As much as I admire Pogorelich, I have heard more exiting recordings of this.
he seems as he were shaking his arms. the steinway and sons is not enough
ah, why does he play Mozart so slowly and sentimentally? where is breath, freedom and spontaneity, where does he take RISKS as displayed on early piano rolls of pianists from the 19th century such as Carl Reinecke. I completely agree with the comment of 'Fritz Maisenbacher' below.
Cut da mullet!!
nice touch - ivo ist great !
..you wonna see/hear something nice and new ..
look for vid: "bach sarabande jazz guitar" ..
you ll like it..
:-)
@polobuch It's a journey.
Beautiful, but isn't it a bit slow?
there is a limit between slow and boring... I am ignorant but I think that in this case we are in the field of "boring"
Those who say that Mozart is an idiot have no idea what on Earth they're saying.
And piano playing too.
It's tru than Mozart's said, Andante Grazioso, but what movement plays like that.
When u get to the level of Pogorelic, then u can give him marks :)
I agree with your statement, but you can't force anything onto a certain pianist. In the end, it's their choice.
wtf the last variaton is missing!
@chiehwenwang
lol, that is completely not true
why is he moving his body so strangely? cant he sit still?
The theme is a bit too slow and the first variation is bit too fast?
dobre w chuj