In Dragon Age Origins (or maybe 2?) I decided to kill a werewolf to put her out of her misery, and then found out later that I could have cured her lycanthropy. It didn't prevent me from progressing, but the emotional impact made the character feel like a failure.
I made a mistake as well. I was confident that making alistair marry anora would allow me to recruit loghain... But I did not know I needed to harden alistair, I wasn't even aware of this mechanic, so I recruited loghain, alistair refused to marry and became a drunk
When I saw Infamous in the thumbnail, I thought one of you made the mistake I made and set off the bomb after a hero playthrough. Now I can't walk down the street without getting hit in the face with a bottle 😂
Rosie, it's alright. It gives you some renegade points and money if you scan them all. If you get the two quest givers to cooperate, then you'll have a cameo from them in 2 and iirc maybe 3. If you don't scan them all then you might see one of the npcs in 2, but it literally has very little impact on the games either way.
Final Fantasy 9!! There's that bit on disc 3 where you have to split your party to get something for Kuja and I sent all the magic users to a place where you shouldn't be sending your magic users as there's an anti magic field... If only I were paying attention. That was the day I learned to have many saves for the same playthrough.
The worst thing is that the island itself allows you to use magic, so you don’t fully realize your mistake until you are in the actual dungeon. There was a bit of panic and confusion when i tried to heal, and then it dawned on me. Glad I’m not the only one who put magic users on my team immediately after the game tells you not to
The cheats have sort of ruined the modern version. Speed up, fill gauge etc… I can’t help just pressing the cheat buttons. It’s not as fun. It should of been locked off until you completed it once.
Looks Infectious for the fill gages, 9999 damage, and no encounters I agree with you, but speed up really doesn’t do anything to cheat imo. It just makes everything take less time. The only things I feel that could be cheated with those are the chocobo hot/cold, the festival of the hunt, and if you are trying for Excalibur II, but if you want the challenge you don’t have to use it for those
Powerleveling in Oblivion. I leveled up to level 50 in a way that I maxed out my stats, but then I didn't have good scores in my fighting abilities, so the enemies were very difficult to kill. So then I enchanted my armor to become completely invisible. But I still had difficulty fighting anything that could heal itself.
Until dawn , I didn't understand if Sam ran she would burn everyone Alive. Ended up killing basically everyone I saved right at end cause I didn't understand
@@itendsinmegadeth I was like ' oh yeah everyone will run with me as I go ' next thing I now Sam just burned Chris Ashley Emily and Mike alive and I just :O
@@looksinfectious9642 oh my god they're the worst , most I was okay with but the one I struggle with is Sam as the end where Hannah is right by you and I'm here holding my breath for dear life to not move
I had something similar with FF 15. My first mistake was that I didn’t activate the chocobos. So, I had to walk everywhere when I lost the car. Then, I couldn’t defeat a single enemy after the timeskip before the final boss.
Fun fact; there are actually 21 keepers to scan but in the legendary edition you only need to scan 20. It's funny because in the original I would always spend ages looking for the last one 😂
The first time I played Dragon Age 2 I completely missed recruiting Fenris because the quest in which you do recruit him is set up to be something completely different that I didn't want to do. So I beat the game and only found out afterwards that , turns out said quest doesn't have you smuggling lyrium, and in fact was about fighting slavers who want to recapture Fenris. I was pretty embarrassed to find out I had accidently abandoned a party member to be hunted by slavers because I didn't even know he existed at the time.
In Final Fantasy X. Up until Bevelle I had fully completed all of the Cloister of Trials. They were fun puzzles to solve. At the end of the Bevelle cloister I knew what I had to do but for some reason the game wasn't giving me the prompt to push the pedestal. I moved around for many many minutes trying to get it, but it wouldn't give me the option to push it. I don't know if the game bugged out on me, if I needed to reload and try again, or what. I figured, I'm sure all it will give me is something like a megalixer or another item that my over leveling will make obsolete; so I continued on. Then I reach the end game, and I find out in order to get the final Aeon you need to fully complete all of the cloisters. It's okay, you can go back to them... except one.. the only one I skipped completing because the game wouldn't let me.. And that immediately halted my playthrough of FFX.
Probably didn't have 2 spheres. You place 1 in the pedestal, and hold another. Then place the one your holding to activate path to secret treasure. You probably already know this. But just in case someone else doesn't.
Yeah, the destruction sphere treasures is such a mean thing to new players. Learning about that really soured my experience of the game, knowing I now have to go to end game stats and items to get something I could have got 50 hours ago for no extra effort.
I got FFX as a package deal with the ps2, you got a cheat disk in the package. Xploder I think it was called. There was a fight that scaled with level, Kumari vs another Ronso warrior. It took me about 5 hours because each attack took of 1 hp. Took a lot of patience.
I didn't scan the keepers in one of my playthroughs. Now I'm not saying it's connected, but that was also the playthrough where I lost all my team in the suicide mission in mass effect 2...
Scanning the Keepers give you some exp and credits.. Nothing more nothing less.. It has absolutely no ramifications for either Mass Effect 2 or 3.. Not even for ME1 for that matter. After you scanned the final Keeper you immediately get your exp and credits and the quest is marked as finished.
I ruined Bioshock by running out of ammo during the part where you have to shoot the teleporting flamey guys. I just remember sprinting after them with my wrench, only to watch them teleport away. T_T
Scanning the Keepers give you some exp and credits.. Nothing more nothing less.. It has absolutely no ramifications for either Mass Effect 2 or 3.. Not even for ME1 for that matter. After you scanned the final Keeper you immediately get your exp and credits and the quest is marked as finished.
@@recht_voor_zijn_raap5506 You are correct it has no ramifications, but there is a reference to it in ME2: you'll get a letter from Chorbin (assuming you didn't kill him) about his research and how he thinks it's important but can't get funding for further research. That's it afaik, though there might (read: probably isn't, but I am not 100% sure as I write this) be a supremely tiny galactic readiness effect in 3.
Junction is important in FF8, but there's another trick that makes the final boss easy: don't gain levels. FF8 keys enemy power to your level, even the final boss, so the lower your level the weaker the boss. Use junction to boost your stats and you can wipe the floor with the boss.
OK, Rob, Nate, Ash, please don't tell this to Rosie but I personally have completed the Mass Effect trilogy more than I'd like to admit and I have done almost all the possible stipulations of the decisions you can make ... I don't want to spoil anything ... but I will only say this. I just can't believe Rosie would play so fast and loose with _the fate of the universe._
Like Rob, playing FF8 as a kid, I didn't understand the junction mechanics and just played relying on GFs and didn't get them all. So I really struggled with Adele and especially Ultimecia's castle. Somehow beat all the bosses and got to Ultimecia with 2 GFs alive and one character with their best weapon. Current remaster save file, do understand the system. Obsessively drew magic to 100 and never use it and need to get rid of the lower tier magic to make space.
Saw title. Immediately thought, I remember my friend made it to the last boss in FF8 and could never beat it due to bad leveling decisions. and then poor poor Rob started talking.
@@CB-lw7ty Totally get that! The upgrades get expensive, especially Grandmaster Gear; you basically have to have a build in mind from jump or you're gonna end up grinding like crazy to make money. Of course, there's always Gwent 🤣
Nathan!!!! I had 399 shard too, and it was painful to find the last one. It was exactly the same one and was so hard because the shard would not show on the map unless you were a bit closer (height, not just horizontally).
@@looksinfectious9642 And 8 paragon points, iirc. I just played ME1 and I don't remember the exact number, but I know I got a decent amount of Paragon points from that sidequest and the related one.
Early on playing Darkest Dungeon, I came across some sort of alter. I wasn’t paying attention to the text, but it said something about lighting a torch. So I lit a torch and accidentally summoned a Shambler, which is incredibly powerful. Had a complete party wipe, and lost all of my best characters. At that stage it was quicker to start the whole game over.
In Fallout 4, I decided to side with the Brotherhood. When given the instructions on how to build the machine that would take me to The Institute, I gave it to the Brotherhood, thinking it would be the best option if the Institute decided to attack wherever the machine was made. They didn’t, thus setting me up for attacking the Railroad, ultimately having to kill everyone in the North Boston Church. I felt no pride that day, and learned the important lesson to have multiple saves on The Molecular Level mission.
Horizon Zero Dawn - Not in the main game, but during the Frozen Wilds DLC, I accidentally sold my permanent fast travel item, without realising, and I never found the vendor I sold it to! 😫
Final Fantasy 13 trophy to have one of every weapon/item. I became too confident in my checklist. The items are really expensive and after 20+ hours farming difficult adamantoises, I decided to sell some of the expensive items to make the grind easier. To my horror the trophy didn't unlock when I "completed" getting all items and I had no idea which one I missed. I felt sick for while after that.
For FFVIII I also didn't understand the junction system until I couldn't beat Disc 3. Then I went to the manual and relearned junctioning. I ended up loving it. It was so brilliant
In FF8 I used the leveling glitch to power level three charaters. I then loaded them out with all of the guardian spirits to boost all of their stats. I then went to wash the final boss, not knowing it would randomly select your team for you. The last battle took hours as I had to wait for the right party members to be selected before I could out cheese the final boss.
Trying to be a father figure and support Ciri in Witcher 3. I didn't know doing that means you get a bad ending so I didn't know I'd ruined it until the end cut scene.
Most I’ve ruined a game in recent memory was Vampyr. I got the second worst ending due to two wrong choices late game. I let one district fall into chaos and made one choice that caused my waifu to kill herself in the ending. Really ruined my enjoyment right at the end.
Lol I deleted that last week after I spared a scal priest and he murdered an entire district, the game even said live with your choices, no I don't think I will thank you.
Rosie you’re not alone, I didn’t scan all the Keepers either. I also missed a conversation that stopped me from getting info on all alien races and lost out on a trophy.
Rosie just handed the Reapers the win in ME3 ... For me, Dark Souls Blight Town. Twice engaged in convo's with NPC selling stuff and twice got attacked, nicked the NPC's while defending myself. Assume my options to buy from them are gone forever given he chased me to the Campfire and resumed attacking me after I had rested. Had to drop him... So sad, too far in to redo.
Back in the XBox 360 days, there was a glitch in Mass Effect that actually prevented you from scanning all the Keepers and completing that quest, which always irked me because I WANTED to scan them all and clear the quest out of my quest log.
i was rewatching this and just noticed at the end when nathan asked rosie how much platinum trophies she got.. i then realized that this was the start of nath's plan on what to do to rosie during his leaving stream
My wife beat Kingdom Hearts 1 on the PS2 using only the Kingdom Key on accident. She had never played an RPG so she didn't know you could change equipment...
I really love these features but sometimes I don't dare watch them for fear of spoilers. there used to be a list at the beginning of the video so one knew which games were going to be discussed. It would be great if that came back or maybe put in the chapters at the bottom of the timeline, so one can jump to the safe parts.
Rob and Nath talking about the Junction system, blood gems and the mutagen system... Just @ me next time guys, I'm definitely that person. I had to brute force my way through all 3 games thanks to that 😅
That Mass Effect decision is pretty minor - if you continue scanning the keepers you get an email from that Salarian in Mass Effect 2 thanking you for the data. That's it.
Mine was not realizing you could Kindle a bonfire for more Estus charges in Dark Souls 1. I also missed Oswald as I came down the ladder. On my next playthrough, I went down the Great Hollow & rested at the bonfire next to Ash Lake before getting the Lordvessel.
Joining the Company of Champions in Darks Souls 2, which basically makes the whole game harder. I didn't realise that or I would have left it right away.
It happened to me too last year, Rosie. I was determined to finish Final Fantasy VIII over Christmas, and I did follow the Junction system very well, but still my HP was not high enough to face Ultimecia. Next time, I'm going to follow a guide. I think my biggest mistake was in Star Ocean Till the End of Time. I had this key item early in the game, that I don't really remember that well, and it was only useful at the beginning of the game. So once I decided that the game wasn't using it anymore, I tossed it. Then, low and behold, near the end of the game, I needed it again, and I couldn't go back to get it.
FFVIII is a rare example of a Final Fantasy that can get easier to beat at lower levels. Once you understand the Junction system and know how to obtain powerful spells, it's possible to have huge HP at a very low level. Since enemies level up along with your party, it's far easier to win with a party that's low-levelled but well-junctioned.
I've never played Mass Effect 1. I really need to get the Legendary Edition. I stopped at the tower in Infamous because I couldn't climb beyond a certain point.
I had to add another playthrough of infamous because on my first time through I took one evil power up half way through and ruined my only good powers trophy.
I had the exact same thing happen to me on Infamous 1, I had 399 shards for over a year and finally booted up the game again and went all over the whole map to find it, took forever but I finally got the plat.
Scanning the Keepers is an entirely optional side quest. Not doing it doesn’t matter. There’s only an off-hand reference in 2. You just get an email from the researcher. You can avoid the Renegade points with the right dialogue. Lore-wise, scanning them ends up being a good thing.
Yooo! Rob I did the exact same thing as a young boy. Got all the way to Ultimecia and could not beat her. Ended up having to start the game ALL OVER! lol.
It’s actually comforting to hear that other people who love games don’t always understand every mechanic by the end of the game. I often feel overwhelmed by a game’s mechanics at the start, and if I don’t understand ALL of it by a few hours in, I feel like it’s not a good fit and I’m not “getting it” I might just stop playing. That’s how bloodborne was for me.
Running through to the final boss in Ni No Kuni without levelling! I got wiped out. Luckily I was able to retreat to previous rooms and boost my levels but it was a poor decision that nearly cost me my game....and sanity 🙃
I had the same thing with FF8. I dont think the game explains it well enough. It wasn't until I read a reddit post that I realized I was playing the game wrong the whole way
No, Nathan, I don't understand mutagens either. It came after 130 hours at the end of my playthrough. I had already struggled to understand every other system in the Witcher, I just couldn't find reason to do another damn one.
Common mistakes I've made. Elder Scrolls Oblivion: Leveling up a bunch of times at once. Assassins Creed 1: Forgetting about using heavy attack against knights. Kingdom Come Deliverance: Overloading the character with too much armor. Lots of RPGs: Spend too much time grinding my character into a badass, so the game becomes too easy on the hardest difficulty.
@@nebuloushammer8773 Well, even if there is one, it could've as well not been there. There's no reason to fight normally, when counter attacking over and over is way more effective.
Same thing happened to me with FF VIII since I played it when I was 12 . Luckily I had really enjoyed playing Triple Triad and collected all the GF cards and character cards which you can convert into powerful healing items and the like using the Card function . I managed to finally beat the game years later when I was 18 or so (and after reading guides on junctioning). It's still my favorite game to this day.
My Mass Effect 2 run was ruined by 2 things. 1. I picked Zaeed for the other team during the Suicide Mission (consequently, Kasumi got shot in the face). I had to restart the entire thing because I didn't save until after passing through the Omega 4 Relay. 2. I didn't take Kelly Chambers to dinner, which locked out a bonus in Mass Effect 3, as well as her cameo - which I only learned in ME3 after using the save where I had to restart the entire game because of Zaeed.
Simular thing happened to me in ff8 too. I got up to Sorceress Adel and couldn't get past her. I restarted the game and I finally understood the junction system once I got to disc 2- Attack on Balamb Garden 🙃
Don't feel bad Rob. Exact same game, Exact same problem, nearly the same age. Only difference is I only used the guardian forces throughout. Then that same guy in the final boss starts instakilling them. I'd only figured out the junction system in the final area, way too late
I'm with Rob; I didn't understand the Juncture system in Final Fantasy VIII, and while trying to collect Ifrit, I couldn't beat him. No matter what I did or tried, I just couldn't beat him. I gave up after; as I wasn't really happy with that game.
Same with me. Those final boss roulletes are killing me time after time. Remember that one time I almost beat it but failed at final form. But yeah, easier if you get all the GF and learn the junctioning systems.
Regarding the Infamous entry on this list, I had something similar happen to me in Assassin's Creed. To get all the achievements you have to find 100 feathers in the world. I found 99 feathers and the last one eluded me for so long that I gave up. Had I found that feather, I would have earned the last two or three achievements which the feathers are required in order to obtain. So frustrating!
Mass Effect 2. Not game-ruining per se, but it pushed me to replay solid 10h of game. I recruited Legion as soon as possible. Which led to... losses. To put it one way.
I don't remember which weapon it was, but in FFIX I was permanently missing one of Zidane's skills (and thus the corresponding Dyne skill) on my first playthrough because I sold off the only(?) weapon that taught it before getting enough AP to learn the skill.
I STILL have 399 shards on Infamous 1. And I don't have an excuse as good as Nate's LOL. IIRC there was like a general radius that the shard could be found in and you don't actually see that radius until you're within its range. The map will tell you how many you find in different areas of the city but it won't tell you directly where they are, or where to find the radius. I never found that goddamn shard! I was THIS close to looking through a guide and systematically checking every shard's location. Then I realised I'd have to do that for 400 different places and...nah. Great game, Infamous. But that shard can eat it.
Awww, scanning the keepers made her feel guilty 😂. It does nothing but give you more information about who they are and where they might've come from. And it gets mentioned again in one of the later games.
The blast shards kept me from a platinum in Infamous too, I've never had the heart to look for that last one. In Infamous 2 I have some online stuff to do which is hard on a 10 year old game, and I have to kill enemies in powered down areas which is hard when I've powered them all up, so I'll have to start again 🤦♂️
Rob's face when Rosie says "Yeah, it actually is 42." 🤣
I love that out of all the ME1 things that might have ruined a game, Rosie chose not scanning the Keepers 😂
In Dragon Age Origins (or maybe 2?) I decided to kill a werewolf to put her out of her misery, and then found out later that I could have cured her lycanthropy. It didn't prevent me from progressing, but the emotional impact made the character feel like a failure.
Origins. Yeah. Who could have known? By reading guides and spoilers? That ruins the experience.
I have a guide for dragon age origins but it didn't mention that you could cure that werewolf of her condition, So this is news to me.
You can’t cure her, I tried in my second play through, if you refuse to put her out of her misery, she simply attacks you and you have to kill her.
I made a mistake as well. I was confident that making alistair marry anora would allow me to recruit loghain... But I did not know I needed to harden alistair, I wasn't even aware of this mechanic, so I recruited loghain, alistair refused to marry and became a drunk
When I saw Infamous in the thumbnail, I thought one of you made the mistake I made and set off the bomb after a hero playthrough. Now I can't walk down the street without getting hit in the face with a bottle 😂
Exactly my thoughts 😂
Love Ash's knowing smile while Rosie is talking about the Keepers 😂😂
Rosie, it's alright. It gives you some renegade points and money if you scan them all. If you get the two quest givers to cooperate, then you'll have a cameo from them in 2 and iirc maybe 3.
If you don't scan them all then you might see one of the npcs in 2, but it literally has very little impact on the games either way.
Final Fantasy 9!!
There's that bit on disc 3 where you have to split your party to get something for Kuja and I sent all the magic users to a place where you shouldn't be sending your magic users as there's an anti magic field... If only I were paying attention.
That was the day I learned to have many saves for the same playthrough.
Did the same thing. Somehow managed to survive, but used a ton of potions and phoenix downs.
The worst thing is that the island itself allows you to use magic, so you don’t fully realize your mistake until you are in the actual dungeon. There was a bit of panic and confusion when i tried to heal, and then it dawned on me. Glad I’m not the only one who put magic users on my team immediately after the game tells you not to
Hah I also did that ahahaha and barely managed to suffer my way through both sections
The cheats have sort of ruined the modern version.
Speed up, fill gauge etc…
I can’t help just pressing the cheat buttons. It’s not as fun. It should of been locked off until you completed it once.
Looks Infectious for the fill gages, 9999 damage, and no encounters I agree with you, but speed up really doesn’t do anything to cheat imo. It just makes everything take less time. The only things I feel that could be cheated with those are the chocobo hot/cold, the festival of the hunt, and if you are trying for Excalibur II, but if you want the challenge you don’t have to use it for those
InFamous was a great series. I wish they’d resurrect it.
Agreed..
For me it was best PS3 exclusives easily.
That and also HOME was the reasons why I wanted a ps3,hopefully they do a remaster 😭😭
if only, at this rate i'll be replaying second son again
Yes! First one needs a remaster! 😍
All 3 are killer games.
It's "illegal" Rosie but it's not a paragon vs renegade situation lmao. And no, you haven't ruined it.
Powerleveling in Oblivion. I leveled up to level 50 in a way that I maxed out my stats, but then I didn't have good scores in my fighting abilities, so the enemies were very difficult to kill. So then I enchanted my armor to become completely invisible. But I still had difficulty fighting anything that could heal itself.
Until dawn , I didn't understand if Sam ran she would burn everyone Alive. Ended up killing basically everyone I saved right at end cause I didn't understand
I did this exact thing lol
As soon as you need to hold the controller still I get an inch somewhere. Every time.
@@itendsinmegadeth I was like ' oh yeah everyone will run with me as I go ' next thing I now Sam just burned Chris Ashley Emily and Mike alive and I just :O
@@looksinfectious9642 oh my god they're the worst , most I was okay with but the one I struggle with is Sam as the end where Hannah is right by you and I'm here holding my breath for dear life to not move
@@Izzyd0esgaming It was the one in the house scene that I had a problem with.
I didn’t realise I shook so much.
I had something similar with FF 15. My first mistake was that I didn’t activate the chocobos. So, I had to walk everywhere when I lost the car. Then, I couldn’t defeat a single enemy after the timeskip before the final boss.
Fun fact; there are actually 21 keepers to scan but in the legendary edition you only need to scan 20. It's funny because in the original I would always spend ages looking for the last one 😂
I did the exact same thing as Ash...and realized a week later that i missed an entire video game 😅
The first time I played Dragon Age 2 I completely missed recruiting Fenris because the quest in which you do recruit him is set up to be something completely different that I didn't want to do. So I beat the game and only found out afterwards that , turns out said quest doesn't have you smuggling lyrium, and in fact was about fighting slavers who want to recapture Fenris. I was pretty embarrassed to find out I had accidently abandoned a party member to be hunted by slavers because I didn't even know he existed at the time.
In Final Fantasy X. Up until Bevelle I had fully completed all of the Cloister of Trials. They were fun puzzles to solve. At the end of the Bevelle cloister I knew what I had to do but for some reason the game wasn't giving me the prompt to push the pedestal. I moved around for many many minutes trying to get it, but it wouldn't give me the option to push it. I don't know if the game bugged out on me, if I needed to reload and try again, or what. I figured, I'm sure all it will give me is something like a megalixer or another item that my over leveling will make obsolete; so I continued on.
Then I reach the end game, and I find out in order to get the final Aeon you need to fully complete all of the cloisters. It's okay, you can go back to them... except one.. the only one I skipped completing because the game wouldn't let me.. And that immediately halted my playthrough of FFX.
Probably didn't have 2 spheres. You place 1 in the pedestal, and hold another. Then place the one your holding to activate path to secret treasure. You probably already know this. But just in case someone else doesn't.
Yeah, the destruction sphere treasures is such a mean thing to new players. Learning about that really soured my experience of the game, knowing I now have to go to end game stats and items to get something I could have got 50 hours ago for no extra effort.
I got FFX as a package deal with the ps2, you got a cheat disk in the package. Xploder I think it was called.
There was a fight that scaled with level, Kumari vs another Ronso warrior.
It took me about 5 hours because each attack took of 1 hp. Took a lot of patience.
Yeah that's harsh, you can level up Bahumut enough to beat sin but it takes ages
I didn't scan the keepers in one of my playthroughs. Now I'm not saying it's connected, but that was also the playthrough where I lost all my team in the suicide mission in mass effect 2...
Scanning the Keepers give you some exp and credits.. Nothing more nothing less..
It has absolutely no ramifications for either Mass Effect 2 or 3.. Not even for ME1 for that matter.
After you scanned the final Keeper you immediately get your exp and credits and the quest is marked as finished.
Rob goes first.
*says 60 hours in*
Me: Final Fantasy 8
Rob: Final Fantasy 8
I've never even played 8 and I knew the answer
I ruined Bioshock by running out of ammo during the part where you have to shoot the teleporting flamey guys. I just remember sprinting after them with my wrench, only to watch them teleport away. T_T
Why do I feel like Ash wanted chaos in the end? Haha
Because Ash always wants chaos.
I feel Rob's FF8 pain.
Also adding my own mistake, shooting a monk in Tomb Raider 2
Your game is fine Rosie, honestly I don't think Mass Effect even remembers that it has that mission.
Scanning the Keepers give you some exp and credits.. Nothing more nothing less..
It has absolutely no ramifications for either Mass Effect 2 or 3.. Not even for ME1 for that matter.
After you scanned the final Keeper you immediately get your exp and credits and the quest is marked as finished.
@@recht_voor_zijn_raap5506 You are correct it has no ramifications, but there is a reference to it in ME2: you'll get a letter from Chorbin (assuming you didn't kill him) about his research and how he thinks it's important but can't get funding for further research. That's it afaik, though there might (read: probably isn't, but I am not 100% sure as I write this) be a supremely tiny galactic readiness effect in 3.
Junction is important in FF8, but there's another trick that makes the final boss easy: don't gain levels. FF8 keys enemy power to your level, even the final boss, so the lower your level the weaker the boss. Use junction to boost your stats and you can wipe the floor with the boss.
OK, Rob, Nate, Ash, please don't tell this to Rosie but I personally have completed the Mass Effect trilogy more than I'd like to admit and I have done almost all the possible stipulations of the decisions you can make ... I don't want to spoil anything ... but I will only say this. I just can't believe Rosie would play so fast and loose with _the fate of the universe._
Like Rob, playing FF8 as a kid, I didn't understand the junction mechanics and just played relying on GFs and didn't get them all. So I really struggled with Adele and especially Ultimecia's castle. Somehow beat all the bosses and got to Ultimecia with 2 GFs alive and one character with their best weapon. Current remaster save file, do understand the system. Obsessively drew magic to 100 and never use it and need to get rid of the lower tier magic to make space.
Saw title. Immediately thought, I remember my friend made it to the last boss in FF8 and could never beat it due to bad leveling decisions.
and then poor poor Rob started talking.
As a kid I got lost riding the shuttle at the beginning of disc 4. :-(
Rob actually talked about this in the past,as he said he just slipped through the GF tutorial and had everything added to the wrong stats.
The mutagen system in The Witcher 3? Absolutely; double damage on a sword build with a significant boost to signs. Love that system!
Bruuuuhh. Nothing damages me now lol.
I did a mage build and just burn everything to the ground lol
@@CB-lw7ty Totally get that! The upgrades get expensive, especially Grandmaster Gear; you basically have to have a build in mind from jump or you're gonna end up grinding like crazy to make money.
Of course, there's always Gwent 🤣
@@CB-lw7ty lmao omg fire is love and life lol but I cant even tell you what yarden DOES lol. I focused on fire and that shield sign.
@@victoriousf.i.g.3311 I have CLEANED everyone out in Gwent lmaooooo
Nathan!!!! I had 399 shard too, and it was painful to find the last one. It was exactly the same one and was so hard because the shard would not show on the map unless you were a bit closer (height, not just horizontally).
We need an Infamous remaster.
No
@@lostforever773 why no? it was really damn good
@@slinkerys not really
With better controls.
Why don't you just... Play infamous?
The original inFAMOUS is one of my all time favorites!
Scanning the keepers doesn't affect the end of the game.
It doesn’t does it.
You just get money.
@@looksinfectious9642 And 8 paragon points, iirc. I just played ME1 and I don't remember the exact number, but I know I got a decent amount of Paragon points from that sidequest and the related one.
You're a Spectre, Rosie, the law is optional for you.
A good video would be "mechanics I didn't understand, that once I did, make the hard part absurdly easy."
Early on playing Darkest Dungeon, I came across some sort of alter.
I wasn’t paying attention to the text, but it said something about lighting a torch.
So I lit a torch and accidentally summoned a Shambler, which is incredibly powerful.
Had a complete party wipe, and lost all of my best characters.
At that stage it was quicker to start the whole game over.
love how Nath asks about number of Platinums Rosie has while silently planning his betrayal and preparing to one up her. hahahahha
LOL I was thinking the same thing!
In Fallout 4, I decided to side with the Brotherhood. When given the instructions on how to build the machine that would take me to The Institute, I gave it to the Brotherhood, thinking it would be the best option if the Institute decided to attack wherever the machine was made. They didn’t, thus setting me up for attacking the Railroad, ultimately having to kill everyone in the North Boston Church. I felt no pride that day, and learned the important lesson to have multiple saves on The Molecular Level mission.
Horizon Zero Dawn - Not in the main game, but during the Frozen Wilds DLC, I accidentally sold my permanent fast travel item, without realising, and I never found the vendor I sold it to! 😫
Final Fantasy 13 trophy to have one of every weapon/item. I became too confident in my checklist. The items are really expensive and after 20+ hours farming difficult adamantoises, I decided to sell some of the expensive items to make the grind easier. To my horror the trophy didn't unlock when I "completed" getting all items and I had no idea which one I missed. I felt sick for while after that.
Same exact thing happened to me with FFVIII and around the same age too!
I liked the little touch of getting a personal email from "Cyberlife" when ya platinum it.
I liked how the female Android vanishes at the start menu.
She changes as well if you say you aren’t friends, it seems to really hurt her feelings.
I’m waiting for a Delsin guest appearance.
For FFVIII I also didn't understand the junction system until I couldn't beat Disc 3. Then I went to the manual and relearned junctioning. I ended up loving it. It was so brilliant
In FF8 I used the leveling glitch to power level three charaters. I then loaded them out with all of the guardian spirits to boost all of their stats. I then went to wash the final boss, not knowing it would randomly select your team for you. The last battle took hours as I had to wait for the right party members to be selected before I could out cheese the final boss.
Trying to be a father figure and support Ciri in Witcher 3. I didn't know doing that means you get a bad ending so I didn't know I'd ruined it until the end cut scene.
You get the bad endong by coddling Ciri, not by supporting her.
Most I’ve ruined a game in recent memory was Vampyr. I got the second worst ending due to two wrong choices late game. I let one district fall into chaos and made one choice that caused my waifu to kill herself in the ending. Really ruined my enjoyment right at the end.
Lol I deleted that last week after I spared a scal priest and he murdered an entire district, the game even said live with your choices, no I don't think I will thank you.
Rosie you’re not alone, I didn’t scan all the Keepers either. I also missed a conversation that stopped me from getting info on all alien races and lost out on a trophy.
Not having multiple saves on Silent Hill. Hello bad ending.
Rosie just handed the Reapers the win in ME3 ...
For me, Dark Souls Blight Town. Twice engaged in convo's with NPC selling stuff and twice got attacked, nicked the NPC's while defending myself. Assume my options to buy from them are gone forever given he chased me to the Campfire and resumed attacking me after I had rested. Had to drop him... So sad, too far in to redo.
From now on Rosie will be known as "Rosie did-not-scan-the-keepers Caddick :)
I got the exact same ending for Marcus as Ash in my playthrough of Detroit: Become Human
Given the finite number of endings available, that is not surprising or special in any way...
Rob said it: Nath was secretly planning to get loads of platinums.
01:18 "And I didn't understand it for sixty hours." 😆
Back in the XBox 360 days, there was a glitch in Mass Effect that actually prevented you from scanning all the Keepers and completing that quest, which always irked me because I WANTED to scan them all and clear the quest out of my quest log.
i was rewatching this and just noticed at the end when nathan asked rosie how much platinum trophies she got.. i then realized that this was the start of nath's plan on what to do to rosie during his leaving stream
My wife beat Kingdom Hearts 1 on the PS2 using only the Kingdom Key on accident. She had never played an RPG so she didn't know you could change equipment...
I really love these features but sometimes I don't dare watch them for fear of spoilers. there used to be a list at the beginning of the video so one knew which games were going to be discussed. It would be great if that came back or maybe put in the chapters at the bottom of the timeline, so one can jump to the safe parts.
I felt the pain immediately when Rob said Final Fantasy 8! I was young when I played it and got so far in the game with only the first 3 gfs lol
Rob and Nath talking about the Junction system, blood gems and the mutagen system...
Just @ me next time guys, I'm definitely that person. I had to brute force my way through all 3 games thanks to that 😅
That Mass Effect decision is pretty minor - if you continue scanning the keepers you get an email from that Salarian in Mass Effect 2 thanking you for the data. That's it.
Mine was not realizing you could Kindle a bonfire for more Estus charges in Dark Souls 1.
I also missed Oswald as I came down the ladder.
On my next playthrough, I went down the Great Hollow & rested at the bonfire next to Ash Lake before getting the Lordvessel.
Joining the Company of Champions in Darks Souls 2, which basically makes the whole game harder.
I didn't realise that or I would have left it right away.
It happened to me too last year, Rosie. I was determined to finish Final Fantasy VIII over Christmas, and I did follow the Junction system very well, but still my HP was not high enough to face Ultimecia. Next time, I'm going to follow a guide.
I think my biggest mistake was in Star Ocean Till the End of Time. I had this key item early in the game, that I don't really remember that well, and it was only useful at the beginning of the game. So once I decided that the game wasn't using it anymore, I tossed it. Then, low and behold, near the end of the game, I needed it again, and I couldn't go back to get it.
FFVIII is a rare example of a Final Fantasy that can get easier to beat at lower levels. Once you understand the Junction system and know how to obtain powerful spells, it's possible to have huge HP at a very low level. Since enemies level up along with your party, it's far easier to win with a party that's low-levelled but well-junctioned.
I’m aware of that. I wasn’t seeking to level up much, but it still happened.
Be prepared to spend a lot of time flying between heaven and hell to draw powerful spells
I've never played Mass Effect 1. I really need to get the Legendary Edition. I stopped at the tower in Infamous because I couldn't climb beyond a certain point.
I had to add another playthrough of infamous because on my first time through I took one evil power up half way through and ruined my only good powers trophy.
I had the exact same thing happen to me on Infamous 1, I had 399 shards for over a year and finally booted up the game again and went all over the whole map to find it, took forever but I finally got the plat.
Taking Ignus into the last battle in Planescape: Torment.
Scanning the Keepers is an entirely optional side quest. Not doing it doesn’t matter. There’s only an off-hand reference in 2. You just get an email from the researcher. You can avoid the Renegade points with the right dialogue. Lore-wise, scanning them ends up being a good thing.
Yooo! Rob I did the exact same thing as a young boy. Got all the way to Ultimecia and could not beat her. Ended up having to start the game ALL OVER! lol.
Rosie now has mass effect references! so proud!
Is Rosie real ? No one is that innocent and wholesome !
You might be cool, but you'll never be lounging around in a STARS jumper cool.
As cool as Rosie? Dream on…
It’s actually comforting to hear that other people who love games don’t always understand every mechanic by the end of the game. I often feel overwhelmed by a game’s mechanics at the start, and if I don’t understand ALL of it by a few hours in, I feel like it’s not a good fit and I’m not “getting it” I might just stop playing. That’s how bloodborne was for me.
I didn't scan the keepers either. You keep doing the paragon thing, Rosie! :P.
Running through to the final boss in Ni No Kuni without levelling! I got wiped out. Luckily I was able to retreat to previous rooms and boost my levels but it was a poor decision that nearly cost me my game....and sanity 🙃
I had the same experience as Rob, same same same... Still LOVE FFVIII
I could swear I heard Nathan speaking bout InFamous shard thing in the past not long ago
I had the same thing with FF8. I dont think the game explains it well enough. It wasn't until I read a reddit post that I realized I was playing the game wrong the whole way
I didn't even know you COULD scan the keepers. Never found that quest.
No, Nathan, I don't understand mutagens either. It came after 130 hours at the end of my playthrough. I had already struggled to understand every other system in the Witcher, I just couldn't find reason to do another damn one.
Rob’s ‘unimpressed dad face’ to Rosie is something I can highly relate to
Common mistakes I've made.
Elder Scrolls Oblivion: Leveling up a bunch of times at once.
Assassins Creed 1: Forgetting about using heavy attack against knights.
Kingdom Come Deliverance: Overloading the character with too much armor.
Lots of RPGs: Spend too much time grinding my character into a badass, so the game becomes too easy on the hardest difficulty.
Heavy attack in Assassin's Creed 1? Didn't this game only have a counter attack? :)
@@Agreel I think there is one tutorial for heavy attack in the middle of the game. As I recall, you have to hold the attack button.
@@nebuloushammer8773 Well, even if there is one, it could've as well not been there. There's no reason to fight normally, when counter attacking over and over is way more effective.
Same thing happened to me with FF VIII since I played it when I was 12 . Luckily I had really enjoyed playing Triple Triad and collected all the GF cards and character cards which you can convert into powerful healing items and the like using the Card function . I managed to finally beat the game years later when I was 18 or so (and after reading guides on junctioning). It's still my favorite game to this day.
My Mass Effect 2 run was ruined by 2 things.
1. I picked Zaeed for the other team during the Suicide Mission (consequently, Kasumi got shot in the face). I had to restart the entire thing because I didn't save until after passing through the Omega 4 Relay.
2. I didn't take Kelly Chambers to dinner, which locked out a bonus in Mass Effect 3, as well as her cameo - which I only learned in ME3 after using the save where I had to restart the entire game because of Zaeed.
Simular thing happened to me in ff8 too. I got up to Sorceress Adel and couldn't get past her. I restarted the game and I finally understood the junction system once I got to disc 2- Attack on Balamb Garden 🙃
Don't feel bad Rob. Exact same game, Exact same problem, nearly the same age. Only difference is I only used the guardian forces throughout. Then that same guy in the final boss starts instakilling them. I'd only figured out the junction system in the final area, way too late
I'm with Rob; I didn't understand the Juncture system in Final Fantasy VIII, and while trying to collect Ifrit, I couldn't beat him. No matter what I did or tried, I just couldn't beat him. I gave up after; as I wasn't really happy with that game.
Maybe because it's the Junction system :-)
Same with me. Those final boss roulletes are killing me time after time. Remember that one time I almost beat it but failed at final form. But yeah, easier if you get all the GF and learn the junctioning systems.
I love the ep, especially the plat comparison tidbit in the end.
FFVIII was my first ever JRPG, so yeah I got to the end and had to restart from the beginning too. I got all the GFs the second time though!
Regarding the Infamous entry on this list, I had something similar happen to me in Assassin's Creed. To get all the achievements you have to find 100 feathers in the world. I found 99 feathers and the last one eluded me for so long that I gave up. Had I found that feather, I would have earned the last two or three achievements which the feathers are required in order to obtain. So frustrating!
Mass Effect 2. Not game-ruining per se, but it pushed me to replay solid 10h of game. I recruited Legion as soon as possible. Which led to... losses. To put it one way.
Same Rob... Same. Didn't beat it for another 15 years when I replayed on PSP.
I’m also experiencing Mass Effect for the first time, half way through 2, and I also stopped scanning the keepers when I realized it was bad…
I don't remember which weapon it was, but in FFIX I was permanently missing one of Zidane's skills (and thus the corresponding Dyne skill) on my first playthrough because I sold off the only(?) weapon that taught it before getting enough AP to learn the skill.
I STILL have 399 shards on Infamous 1. And I don't have an excuse as good as Nate's LOL. IIRC there was like a general radius that the shard could be found in and you don't actually see that radius until you're within its range. The map will tell you how many you find in different areas of the city but it won't tell you directly where they are, or where to find the radius. I never found that goddamn shard! I was THIS close to looking through a guide and systematically checking every shard's location. Then I realised I'd have to do that for 400 different places and...nah. Great game, Infamous. But that shard can eat it.
Awww, scanning the keepers made her feel guilty 😂. It does nothing but give you more information about who they are and where they might've come from. And it gets mentioned again in one of the later games.
Valkyrie Profile...sending Angrim to Valhalla with the best weapon and armor....
The blast shards kept me from a platinum in Infamous too, I've never had the heart to look for that last one.
In Infamous 2 I have some online stuff to do which is hard on a 10 year old game, and I have to kill enemies in powered down areas which is hard when I've powered them all up, so I'll have to start again 🤦♂️
Scanning the keepers affects me3, I don’t think it’s a drastic hit if you don’t do it though.
Completing the quest gives a very minor boost to your war readiness score, IIRC. Nothing that can't be covered by doing other quests.
Scanning the Keepers won't ruin Mass Effect, or the other two, Rosie. Trust me. I've played the trilogy multiple times lol
In hospital so re-watching some old vids. Is the end bit Nathan setting up his betrayal as Nathan snake?