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@antondaniels Pleas put me on a show 1 on 1 with you I hade a terrific idea that will help people strugling to be free from there job and be happy it's really simple.
Logic the type of dude women don't like so he overcompensates pandering to women with nonsensical talking points, he sounds desperate for women to like him
ANTON IS 100% RIGHT!!!! Any man a woman put in the friendzone is a man she should marry. if he is good enough to be a buddy to you, he is good enough to be a father and a husband. Women come across good men all the time and pass em by then cry LATER when OLDER that they cannot find a good man.
These males on here are straight suckas a man isn't a good man because he has kids with more than one woman?? FOH Brown nosing on the internet for these hoes SMH!
Exactly they pick and choose the men they're sexually attracted to and want have crazy sex and babies that they wanted by them knowing they didn't want a commitment got everything they wanted from who they wanted and now expect a good man to come in and fix them they will lie and gaslight to make that man feel bad for them because he has to feel bad in order to take it on...she didn't want or expect anything from the men who got her pregnant but they want the good men to pick up all the slack like it's their kids
he said black men should not leave their baby mama no matter what, and said if you did leave then you need to go back and fix the relationship, and get back together. This dude has two baby mama's himself, maybe he should practice what he preaches first.
Thank you, I see every single day these women call a hard working dude a bum because of his work fit or because he’s working a 9-5 but these same women will get butt naked for a dude sitting in the neighborhood all day with no job and sleeping on somebody’s couch 😂😂😂
@@Loner_Mike98 facts, one my female friends, pointed this dude out to me and told me he was a loser, because he had no job and sold drugs. I went back home and came back a few months later to visit family, come to find out she is pregnant by the same guy she called a loser. Yes, he kicked her to the curb as soon as she got pregnant. You can't make this stuff up, lol
That’s the issue, a man doesn’t show “swag” one time and all of sudden he ain’t good enough, our women are 50 shades of stupid, any other community of women would be like “alright he was kind of weird but he showed great qualities of being a good provider, husband, and father, let give it another go”, black women on the other hand “nah this ain’t it I’m outta here, I didn’t FEEL no big dick energy”.
thats why the black community will never grow and stay at da bottom black women are the gatekeepers other community of women know and are taught the value of getting a quality man black women do it backwards instead of him being option number 1 a quality man will be her last resort
They say they want the dealers and scammers over the 9 to 5 guy. They say they want a hood guy because it is fun. They pretty much run head first into their demise. Also, you can't tell them anything. Some of them had parents that saw a Pookie coming a mile away. They got advised not to mess with him. Did they listen?
Exactly I've seen it time and time again they'll go against everyone their families their fathers and mothers sisters brothers to justify and deal with a thug they'll cheat with them at work etc especially bw
Props to Marva for keeping it real, acknowledging her mistakes, taking accountability and then moving on with her life. She made a change and it resulted in her finding a husband. The problem is single mothers today want what Marva has, but dont wanna put in the work that Marva did. It isn't a guarantee but at least it increases your chances and for Marva, it worked out.
You cant ask women about mens character cuz they will always lie to make it seem like theres just no good men left but the truth is, theyre as imperfect as the men they continue to pass on🤷🏿♂️
LOL big ups to the lady Marva she took the wind out of these women and simps sails with her as a woman being accountable for her own actions and now she seems to be happy, no one want a simple solution they can't grift off that.
That logic dude is a clown. He got annoyed by that one woman answering honestly because it went against what he was going to say to save them. Then he tries to distract by asking the men how many good women they passed up on. The subject was on why do women keep picking poorly. He only asked that question to try to distract the men off of the topic and the home girl knew that. That's why she wanted to badly to hear what they would say because she knew the longer they stay off topic the better the chance of them not going back to the topic.
Good men, the nice ones, the gentleman is a last resort. We're the janitors. We're baggage claim. Everything women put themselves through, knowingly and intently, they expect good men to take on, fix, & be responsible for. We're clean-up. That is why life's game is supposed to be fun, exciting, danger-filled, risky b/c they feel Mr. Goodbar will be there later to clean up after Ms. Butterfinger lets nearly every good thing fumble & slipped through their fingers. Dr. Umar, I would have destroyed him on his illogic socially, politically, whatever. That's clownish his thinking. Ladies, these are your choices you're living with in your lives.
I prefer the country man who can fix just about any damn thing, knows how to grow his own food, not afraid to kick ass when need be. The janitor, the lawn care, the garbage man, the mechanic, that is whoI look for. All these ppl like Anton, Umar, never got their hands dirty too busy bringing down women but can't do shyt for themselves. These are the types of MALES that have other MEN come to their houses to fix shyt, WEAK ASS MALES! All this shyt about how much money blah blah, I know MEN who make less than 60k and only have their basic living expenses to deal with. Not everyone is constantly chasing paper for you can't take that to the grave. Life is too damn short. These YT simps just arguing to argue for clicks and too many simps believing that crap is reality. I have more tools and fix more stuff than any of these males on that panel. I know how to work on cars, fix plumbing, electrical grow my own food, cook from scratch. But these males on that panel prefer that female that they can go to a restaurant than complain about how much he spent on her.
Become meaner. Less is more remember their not important because, women mostly chase validation and money over family. SMH good men should just settle down right. No thanks
When a woman makes a mistake, recognizes her mistake, corrects her behavior, I DO NOT hold it against her. Its the ones that blame others that irritate me.
?'? Mistake? You know the definition of insanity right? So why I should correct her for something she knew was wrong from the start? BS. Her choice, her life. Men need to skip the one who think they are entitled to our grace and go for the one who refuse to perpetuate BS and save themselves for a good man. If you got no standard it's okay don't act like it's normal for a woman to do fucked up shit
The problem is they're trying to compare apples to oranges. The things that a woman would possibly want in a husband leadership, financial stability, protection, and family a man can provide and probably provide better later in life. The things a man is looking for in a wife youth, beauty, fit, feminine, friendly, nurturing, and ability to produce children are on a timetable with women due to biology. Therefore as time passes for women their options will decrease simply based on the criteria of the things the majority of men would want in a wife. It is what it is.
Women want the cookie-cut image of what they've been told is a "good choice" man. If, in ANY way, shape or form he doesn't meet all specs & aesthetics & is what every OTHER woman approves of, she will find reason to end the relationship or manipulate the man until he leaves.
C'mon man, you got women out here 10, 20 at a time knowingly banging the same dude getting pregnant, carrying that bad boy seed to term and then complaining about it, all the while curving us decent men that literally want the best for her and himself. I've been through it, watched mine curve me and only to go on with a thug dude, give him a kid to go along with his 5 other kids from 5 other women, now she won't leave me alone, always trying to get me to come over and simp for her.............. *NOT GONNA HAPPEN!!!*
Any woman that would bring another man's child to a man is showing contempt for both the man she is attempting to court and her baby father. If you really love your future husband, dont bring him another man's kids!
@@TheFadewolf lmao is that a real inquiry? How can I judge someone for what they did in the past? How can a company expect you to have a resume? Why do people do background checks?
@@blacksocrates1 so you really expect women to came with no kids women you never or been with before you guys really want a Virgin childless woman that just doesn't exist anymore most women have kids now a days get over it
Bro, before I got married I was surprised to see pretty much every ex I ever had either tried to get back with me or at least admitted to someone that they messed up leaving me. At least they took accountability 🤷🏿♂️ And shout out to Marva!!!!
Look, in my opinion, it's hard to believe that a woman who has reached 30 years of age has not had at least two good men who have come into their lives that would have been good for them. The problem is that the women lack discernment and always think something better will come along. We know the story, they get older, become pregnant, sometimes multiple times by the usual suspects, gain weight, and "better" never comes along, especially now because of their circumstances. As a man, I have been with a few pretty decent women in my time. However, I agree that the question doesn't apply to men as it does women. I can't miss out on anyone I never asked to marry me.
not true at the end. Men may be the one to ask for marriage but it's really woman who ask for marriage first, before a man verbally and literally asks her "will you marry me". She will insinuate it through how she speaks and acts towards you. Woman of course will not be the ones to literally ask u to marry them while getting down on one knee but u will know that's what she's aiming for with how she treats you, specifically for the ones who had good intentions for you.... then yes u did pass her up even if u didn't propose, because she did. If u know u know
@GrantGM007 No facts from u though. The majority of men would propose to the same woman I mentioned above, but to say there aren't men who can't pass up on a good woman is foolishness. It's not necessarily common, but it does happen. There are many men who are foolish enough to do this because they haven't matured. I guarantee u don't even believe in the Bible.
@@Martin199320 You MUST be a female... I never said anything about "the majority of men," I spoke about my own experience. Don't project some nonsense on me because you did all those things and STILL couldn't get the dude to propose to you. He didn't want you, ma'am. Accept it and move on.
I say this all the time! Women choose the wrong man all the time because they are naturally “nurturers”. Hear me out and I’m speaking from personal experiences. When I was broke and didn’t have my own place and car I had women coming in by the boat load!!! The moment I got my shit together and started making 6 figures plus the amount of women I dealt with was minuscule. Any time I would go out on a date with a woman because of my status it seemed to give a woman low self esteem. They would always say “I must be a hoe. You workout, you’re fit, you got a nice place and a nice car with no kids you must be a hoe”… but women want a man they can take care of. Once you show them you can stand on your own in every way it gives them doubt and low self esteem
Nobody is forcing women to be with anybody. Let’s just say for the sake of argument there aren’t many to choose from. Guess what. Be alone 🤷🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️ dont chose at all. It’s always someone else’s fault.
Was talking to my wife about this topic the other day because she has two friends that have horrible baby dadies and have been venting to her about it. She went on and on about how these men arent crap. So I asked her. "Did they know this before they layed with these men?" So She asked them. The first girl layed with a guy who didnt even have his GED and had diagnosed mental health issues she'd known about before she slept with him. (Theyd known each other for a decade before they got together.) The second girl has a career criminal whos been that way since he was 16. He just robbed a gas station not too long ago and is waiting for his court date to be locked up once again. And you already know hes not helping nor paying child support. Wild how that works out.
I hate this convo because its disingenuous! Its always discussed with assumption that ALL women are good by default! Maybe alot of women dont have access to good men becuase they don't qualify for them! Nobody ever says become better women so they can attract better men to choose from!
Am i the only one who finds it weird that woman expect men to be accountable for decisions that they make instead of accepting their choices that caused them to end up in certain situations?
Smdh you can’t blame men because women are attracted to a certain type, that also happens to be the type that are usually not good men. You literally have women say they don’t like 9-5 men. So they automatically overlook those men, who in the past would’ve been the men every woman wants as a husband
The lady that said she passed on a good man that had 4 kids and 3 baby mamas is wilding.. They don’t even know the basic prototype of a good man.. Not to say that man isn’t a quality human law abiding citizen but what are we talking about a good man…?? Really? 🤦🏽♂️
These women are a prime example of why men are attracted to younger women. 1) They refuse to look at their age in the mirror and admit that 70-80% of their dating life is behind them. Gone. It’s never coming back!! 2) They’re constantly changing the bar when it comes to the consequences for their choices and conduct. They don’t get to choose those consequences. 3) Their 20’s are gone. Along with their maximum value and leverage. (But you can’t tell them that!)
The lady Marva just showed you the grift that Umar is trying to pull, Mr. Johnson see the bag he could get, making sure black women never have to be accountable for their actions just keep blaming their poor decisions on men.
All the answers that you need is in the bible from relationship knowing what role you need play in the marriage depending on your gender and shows how we supposed to live a healthy way of life. The bible is the blue print of human life better then any book thats available
I was a playboy my whole life treated women like they meant nothing to me and they loved me for it for gave me for lying,cheating then I grew up became a honest man an ladys pulled away
Women are emotional they chase emotional people, it’s their comfort zone. Most men can’t calm em down because they were raised by a single mother making them emotional as well. Men are here to keep the emotions down so we don’t all drown. We definitely drowning tho.
Marva got married to a responsible guy bc she only had "one" child, likely has healthy boundaries with the baby daddy and respect to her husband to be, she was likely progressive and showed she going to be an asset and fitted into her husband's frame. He also probably meet her at least 1yr post break up from the baby daddy.
Quane, stop using this live as a stage to showcase your grief! I’ve never seen a panelist lobby for sympathy the way you do. Damn. That’s not the purpose of this forum. Sheesh! 🤦♂️
Logic just basically said average guys are bums . Army, police officers, people who make the world run. That sounded good on the internet to these heaux 😭 no logic at all
Logic’s response to Marva taking accountability was that she needs to be beat??? I know that nigga a time bomb waiting to go off, if he hasn’t beat some woman already.
The men women don’t want are the men they need and these women except for Marva understands that. Women hate simp men but simp men are the better providers protectors and logical partners. Women are too caught up in expeditious experiences.
Responding to Logic's reverse question. Men have the luxury of missing out on a good women because if your ish is together as a man, there is an abundance of comparable women available to you. You can find similar to the one you lost. You may have had multiple on your roster.
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Pleas put me on a show 1 on 1 with you I hade a terrific idea that will help people strugling to be free from there job and be happy it's really simple.
Logic a fraud.... Blatant fraud
I would love to chat with you
Logic the type of dude women don't like so he overcompensates pandering to women with nonsensical talking points, he sounds desperate for women to like him
Logic is a simp!
Logic definitely been on some bs , now it's the men fault, I can't believe this dude “logic”
Dudes like Logic lowkey have contempt for men
Well you must not have seen episodes from years ago…. He’s no panderer but you need those other views for sake of debate
Big simpin
ANTON IS 100% RIGHT!!!! Any man a woman put in the friendzone is a man she should marry. if he is good enough to be a buddy to you, he is good enough to be a father and a husband. Women come across good men all the time and pass em by then cry LATER when OLDER that they cannot find a good man.
🎯🎯🎯🎯🎯🎯
What's the motto they say, Laugh Now, Cry Later
Logic got daddy issues go get some counceling nigga!!!
These males on here are straight suckas a man isn't a good man because he has kids with more than one woman?? FOH Brown nosing on the internet for these hoes SMH!
Man what😂😂 why would you want to be with someone who doesn’t find you sexually attractive? Please explain
Women are not picking the wrong men those are the men that they deserve.
Facts
They accept what they deserve
Chuuuuuuuuuch!!!!
Exactly they pick and choose the men they're sexually attracted to and want have crazy sex and babies that they wanted by them knowing they didn't want a commitment got everything they wanted from who they wanted and now expect a good man to come in and fix them they will lie and gaslight to make that man feel bad for them because he has to feel bad in order to take it on...she didn't want or expect anything from the men who got her pregnant but they want the good men to pick up all the slack like it's their kids
Good one.
Dr. Umar sounds foolish, we are not in control of what men black women DECIDE to mess with....Dr. Umar hit the Super Simp button way too hard
he said black men should not leave their baby mama no matter what, and said if you did leave then you need to go back and fix the relationship, and get back together. This dude has two baby mama's himself, maybe he should practice what he preaches first.
You can literally tell the exact moment he figured out how to spin the lie.
@@koolsmoothfanit's not Umar. Umar's not his name his name is DR UMAR SIMP FUBAR SIMPMAR JOHNSON THE THIRD. CAN'T STAND THAT PANDERING AZZ SIMP
Thank you, I see every single day these women call a hard working dude a bum because of his work fit or because he’s working a 9-5 but these same women will get butt naked for a dude sitting in the neighborhood all day with no job and sleeping on somebody’s couch 😂😂😂
@@Loner_Mike98 facts, one my female friends, pointed this dude out to me and told me he was a loser, because he had no job and sold drugs.
I went back home and came back a few months later to visit family, come to find out she is pregnant by the same guy she called a loser. Yes, he kicked her to the curb as soon as she got pregnant. You can't make this stuff up, lol
It boils down to sexual attraction... they want the men theyre sexually attracted to, to act like the men theyre not sexually attracted to..
Perfectly said
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@@vodoumyers
ITS SHIT LIKE THAT
SHIT LIKE THAT
SHIT LIKE THAT
SHIT LIKE THAT
@@tylersmith9403 Aye🔥
True
Fam ALL THESE WOMEN HAVE PASSED ON MARRIAGEABLE MEN!!! Theese women are LIARS lol smfh
Accept Ms Sanchez. Apparently, the best men around her all have baby mamas and kids 😅
Most women have. It's no surprise.
@@Laughing_Individualyeah ex girl coming back realizing she can’t find better man than you is comedy.
That’s the issue, a man doesn’t show “swag” one time and all of sudden he ain’t good enough, our women are 50 shades of stupid, any other community of women would be like “alright he was kind of weird but he showed great qualities of being a good provider, husband, and father, let give it another go”, black women on the other hand “nah this ain’t it I’m outta here, I didn’t FEEL no big dick energy”.
😂😂 true though
thats why the black community will never grow and stay at da bottom black women are the gatekeepers other community of women know and are taught the value of getting a quality man black women do it backwards instead of him being option number 1 a quality man will be her last resort
😅😅😅 big dick energy
They say they want the dealers and scammers over the 9 to 5 guy. They say they want a hood guy because it is fun. They pretty much run head first into their demise. Also, you can't tell them anything. Some of them had parents that saw a Pookie coming a mile away. They got advised not to mess with him. Did they listen?
Exactly I've seen it time and time again they'll go against everyone their families their fathers and mothers sisters brothers to justify and deal with a thug they'll cheat with them at work etc especially bw
Yea Logic is coping for someone. I hope he gets her.
Logic is a little punk 😮
@@anthonysmith3349😂😂😂😂😂
Props to Marva for keeping it real, acknowledging her mistakes, taking accountability and then moving on with her life. She made a change and it resulted in her finding a husband. The problem is single mothers today want what Marva has, but dont wanna put in the work that Marva did. It isn't a guarantee but at least it increases your chances and for Marva, it worked out.
Shout-out to Marva, that's the kinda woman you want in ya life, she understands actions & consequences 👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿
She looks like a troll though. All ugly chicks behave. They don't really have a choice
I was thinking the same thing. God bless her
I dont know her but I am proud of her and her responses. The other women are playing games at the discussion
Shout out to Marva for holding herself accountable for her actions
EXACTLY 💯
Logic how you gone get mad when she took accountability? 🤨
Because he’s a simp
Super simp
I was gonna say. Logic sound like he got itch in his blood how he got mad at that.
Right!!!
They don't even know what to look for in a man. I realized this decades ago.
You cant ask women about mens character cuz they will always lie to make it seem like theres just no good men left but the truth is, theyre as imperfect as the men they continue to pass on🤷🏿♂️
Also, it amazes me how women ONLY know or be around the men who ain’t shit…
Hahahaha!!!! True.
Because they ain’t shit either, like attracts like
LOL big ups to the lady Marva she took the wind out of these women and simps sails with her as a woman being accountable for her own actions and now she seems to be happy, no one want a simple solution they can't grift off that.
For someone named Logic, he sure can be inept
He’s intellectually lazy. Men have zero leverage over women in this society.
Exactly 💯
A man makin 70k a year is a bum?? Wtf
WHAT ARE THE WOMEN MAKING?
@@stevesmith-ur6th not breakfast lunch or dinner
@@johnlawful2272😂😂😂😂😂
That logic dude is a clown. He got annoyed by that one woman answering honestly because it went against what he was going to say to save them. Then he tries to distract by asking the men how many good women they passed up on. The subject was on why do women keep picking poorly. He only asked that question to try to distract the men off of the topic and the home girl knew that. That's why she wanted to badly to hear what they would say because she knew the longer they stay off topic the better the chance of them not going back to the topic.
Logic you are a bleeding CLOWN
Good men, the nice ones, the gentleman is a last resort. We're the janitors. We're baggage claim. Everything women put themselves through, knowingly and intently, they expect good men to take on, fix, & be responsible for. We're clean-up. That is why life's game is supposed to be fun, exciting, danger-filled, risky b/c they feel Mr. Goodbar will be there later to clean up after Ms. Butterfinger lets nearly every good thing fumble & slipped through their fingers. Dr. Umar, I would have destroyed him on his illogic socially, politically, whatever. That's clownish his thinking. Ladies, these are your choices you're living with in your lives.
I prefer the country man who can fix just about any damn thing, knows how to grow his own food, not afraid to kick ass when need be. The janitor, the lawn care, the garbage man, the mechanic, that is whoI look for. All these ppl like Anton, Umar, never got their hands dirty too busy bringing down women but can't do shyt for themselves. These are the types of MALES that have other MEN come to their houses to fix shyt, WEAK ASS MALES! All this shyt about how much money blah blah, I know MEN who make less than 60k and only have their basic living expenses to deal with. Not everyone is constantly chasing paper for you can't take that to the grave. Life is too damn short. These YT simps just arguing to argue for clicks and too many simps believing that crap is reality. I have more tools and fix more stuff than any of these males on that panel. I know how to work on cars, fix plumbing, electrical grow my own food, cook from scratch. But these males on that panel prefer that female that they can go to a restaurant than complain about how much he spent on her.
Truth
Man is a clown
Become meaner.
Less is more remember their not important because, women mostly chase validation and money over family. SMH good men should just settle down right. No thanks
Checkout at 4:23
When Marva says “listen to the man”
Eyes of rebellion
This is what we up against. And it was in unison 🤦🏽♂️
Women act like if they cant find a good man, the default action is to go get pregnant by a bad one. How bout just being single
When a woman makes a mistake, recognizes her mistake, corrects her behavior, I DO NOT hold it against her. Its the ones that blame others that irritate me.
Same here I'd rather not give myself more of a headache
?'? Mistake?
You know the definition of insanity right? So why I should correct her for something she knew was wrong from the start?
BS.
Her choice, her life. Men need to skip the one who think they are entitled to our grace and go for the one who refuse to perpetuate BS and save themselves for a good man.
If you got no standard it's okay don't act like it's normal for a woman to do fucked up shit
Logic is a super simp nowadays
He sees the bag or perks that's in it for being a simp, he is following Umar's example.
The problem is they're trying to compare apples to oranges. The things that a woman would possibly want in a husband leadership, financial stability, protection, and family a man can provide and probably provide better later in life. The things a man is looking for in a wife youth, beauty, fit, feminine, friendly, nurturing, and ability to produce children are on a timetable with women due to biology. Therefore as time passes for women their options will decrease simply based on the criteria of the things the majority of men would want in a wife. It is what it is.
Hassan is the most intelligent on the panel. When he said “___________ 🦗 _____” i felt that
I'm a 52-year-old black man with no kids, job, own place, car, and happily single.
There are no Mistakes...They pick what
They want.. Don't be Fooled.
Logic's Captain Save a Ho😂😂
Women love to avoid accountability boy. That shit is like a super-power for them.
You can’t force a woman to pick who will do good by them. They can only do that themselves.
My big brother was a loser. He had three or four women a week. I couldn't get none so I started acting like him. I had a good year.
“Man I’m done, f*ck this show”😂😂😂
Women want the cookie-cut image of what they've been told is a "good choice" man.
If, in ANY way, shape or form he doesn't meet all specs & aesthetics & is what every OTHER woman approves of, she will find reason to end the relationship or manipulate the man until he leaves.
C'mon man, you got women out here 10, 20 at a time knowingly banging the same dude getting pregnant, carrying that bad boy seed to term and then complaining about it, all the while curving us decent men that literally want the best for her and himself.
I've been through it, watched mine curve me and only to go on with a thug dude, give him a kid to go along with his 5 other kids from 5 other women, now she won't leave me alone, always trying to get me to come over and simp for her.............. *NOT GONNA HAPPEN!!!*
Any woman that would bring another man's child to a man is showing contempt for both the man she is attempting to court and her baby father. If you really love your future husband, dont bring him another man's kids!
Bra y'all need to get over that how can you be mad because she had a kid before she meet you tho
@theFadeWolf. Sadly you do have a point. Most women have a past before you meet them.
@@TheFadewolf lmao is that a real inquiry? How can I judge someone for what they did in the past? How can a company expect you to have a resume? Why do people do background checks?
@@larrycoleman9513 how do I know a person beside what they have done in the past?
@@blacksocrates1 so you really expect women to came with no kids women you never or been with before you guys really want a Virgin childless woman that just doesn't exist anymore most women have kids now a days get over it
Bro, before I got married I was surprised to see pretty much every ex I ever had either tried to get back with me or at least admitted to someone that they messed up leaving me. At least they took accountability 🤷🏿♂️ And shout out to Marva!!!!
They were just trying to ruin your marriage🤦🏽♂️
@@TajeniV no, that happened before I met my wife, but I was still surprised
If you are an attractive woman you have passed on thousands of “good men” that you thought you were better than…
Exactly 💯💯💯💯
@@christopherjameswright9614 Thank you! 💯
They all lying this is just entertainment.
Stop letting them impregnate you. Then there would be less issues when a good man comes along
These women should call their father to get approval to date these choices 🤣😂😂😂🤣
34 years old is borderline geriatric ...
Look, in my opinion, it's hard to believe that a woman who has reached 30 years of age has not had at least two good men who have come into their lives that would have been good for them. The problem is that the women lack discernment and always think something better will come along. We know the story, they get older, become pregnant, sometimes multiple times by the usual suspects, gain weight, and "better" never comes along, especially now because of their circumstances.
As a man, I have been with a few pretty decent women in my time. However, I agree that the question doesn't apply to men as it does women. I can't miss out on anyone I never asked to marry me.
not true at the end. Men may be the one to ask for marriage but it's really woman who ask for marriage first, before a man verbally and literally asks her "will you marry me". She will insinuate it through how she speaks and acts towards you. Woman of course will not be the ones to literally ask u to marry them while getting down on one knee but u will know that's what she's aiming for with how she treats you, specifically for the ones who had good intentions for you.... then yes u did pass her up even if u didn't propose, because she did. If u know u know
@@Martin199320 Straight foolishness.
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No facts from u though. The majority of men would propose to the same woman I mentioned above, but to say there aren't men who can't pass up on a good woman is foolishness. It's not necessarily common, but it does happen. There are many men who are foolish enough to do this because they haven't matured. I guarantee u don't even believe in the Bible.
@@Martin199320 You MUST be a female... I never said anything about "the majority of men," I spoke about my own experience. Don't project some nonsense on me because you did all those things and STILL couldn't get the dude to propose to you. He didn't want you, ma'am. Accept it and move on.
Mister Logic sounds like a Gay dude
Logic is so effeminate and parasitic for Black Women affection...
No no no. Nobody is responsible for other people actions. Good or bad. Each individual is responsible for their life.
I say this all the time! Women choose the wrong man all the time because they are naturally “nurturers”. Hear me out and I’m speaking from personal experiences. When I was broke and didn’t have my own place and car I had women coming in by the boat load!!! The moment I got my shit together and started making 6 figures plus the amount of women I dealt with was minuscule. Any time I would go out on a date with a woman because of my status it seemed to give a woman low self esteem. They would always say “I must be a hoe. You workout, you’re fit, you got a nice place and a nice car with no kids you must be a hoe”… but women want a man they can take care of. Once you show them you can stand on your own in every way it gives them doubt and low self esteem
Nobody is forcing women to be with anybody. Let’s just say for the sake of argument there aren’t many to choose from. Guess what. Be alone 🤷🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️ dont chose at all. It’s always someone else’s fault.
They always pick terrible becuz they have zero foresight
MARVA WITH THE ACCOUNTABILITY FOR THE WIN!! Make BETTER decisions!
You can't be a great husband and not be a great father.
THANK YOU
Q really showed herself up in this segment
They Cloned Logic 😂😂😂
Birds of a feather flock together
Was talking to my wife about this topic the other day because she has two friends that have horrible baby dadies and have been venting to her about it.
She went on and on about how these men arent crap.
So I asked her. "Did they know this before they layed with these men?"
So She asked them.
The first girl layed with a guy who didnt even have his GED and had diagnosed mental health issues she'd known about before she slept with him. (Theyd known each other for a decade before they got together.)
The second girl has a career criminal whos been that way since he was 16. He just robbed a gas station not too long ago and is waiting for his court date to be locked up once again. And you already know hes not helping nor paying child support.
Wild how that works out.
This proves that woman want the same men. Most of the men they said they passed up on had kids 😂😂
I hate this convo because its disingenuous! Its always discussed with assumption that ALL women are good by default! Maybe alot of women dont have access to good men becuase they don't qualify for them! Nobody ever says become better women so they can attract better men to choose from!
Marva From Miami.. Salute To You🏆
All that marketing on social media and y'all can't find a suitable partner. Yeah okay 😂
Am i the only one who finds it weird that woman expect men to be accountable for decisions that they make instead of accepting their choices that caused them to end up in certain situations?
It's like a child. Somebody else has to be accountable for them
Its really a dumb question. The solid guy that they qualify for doesnt meet their standards. So of course their gonna say no.
Logic is trying to get into that Derrick Jaxn simping money. LMAO. He saw an opportunity after Derrick fell off.
I like Marya she look so heart warming
Smdh you can’t blame men because women are attracted to a certain type, that also happens to be the type that are usually not good men. You literally have women say they don’t like 9-5 men. So they automatically overlook those men, who in the past would’ve been the men every woman wants as a husband
Logic just recently took the Derrick Jaxson master class in simping
So her perfect match was murdered. Smh you can’t make this shit up.
Men build communities, women nurture culture.🤷🏾♂️
After watching 3 different videos of this same exact panel.. I’m Convinced Logic Was Supposed To Be A Woman In This Life Time😂
The lady that said she passed on a good man that had 4 kids and 3 baby mamas is wilding.. They don’t even know the basic prototype of a good man.. Not to say that man isn’t a quality human law abiding citizen but what are we talking about a good man…?? Really? 🤦🏽♂️
These women are a prime example of why men are attracted to younger women.
1) They refuse to look at their age in the mirror and admit that 70-80% of their dating life is behind them. Gone. It’s never coming back!!
2) They’re constantly changing the bar when it comes to the consequences for their choices and conduct. They don’t get to choose those consequences.
3) Their 20’s are gone. Along with their maximum value and leverage. (But you can’t tell them that!)
I hope the ladies feel the same way about the women with multiple kids by multiple men
Those are the men they want. Black women specifically.
The lady Marva just showed you the grift that Umar is trying to pull, Mr. Johnson see the bag he could get, making sure black women never have to be accountable for their actions just keep blaming their poor decisions on men.
All the answers that you need is in the bible from relationship knowing what role you need play in the marriage depending on your gender and shows how we supposed to live a healthy way of life. The bible is the blue print of human life better then any book thats available
I was a playboy my whole life treated women like they meant nothing to me and they loved me for it for gave me for lying,cheating then I grew up became a honest man an ladys pulled away
Women are emotional they chase emotional people, it’s their comfort zone. Most men can’t calm em down because they were raised by a single mother making them emotional as well.
Men are here to keep the emotions down so we don’t all drown. We definitely drowning tho.
True!!
Logic has no logic🤷🏾♂️
Marva got married to a responsible guy bc she only had "one" child, likely has healthy boundaries with the baby daddy and respect to her husband to be, she was likely progressive and showed she going to be an asset and fitted into her husband's frame. He also probably meet her at least 1yr post break up from the baby daddy.
Logic really on some bait and switch simp type hype. Who is this dude???
It's really rather simple. Men should not be responsible for women's poor selection. Why? What does a man get when he respects a woman? FRIENDSHIP!
@AntonDaniels, this cant be the same logic i used to know. #Theyclonedlogic!
The solution is to find someone who is intentional and wants commitment and that comes from surrounding yourself around better people ✨
Great commentary to marva and mister
Its black women like Marva is why im happily married
Logic pulled a
Muscle wit all that reaching…
Quane, stop using this live as a stage to showcase your grief! I’ve never seen a panelist lobby for sympathy the way you do. Damn. That’s not the purpose of this forum. Sheesh! 🤦♂️
Logic must have fallen in love with a hood booger
Logic just basically said average guys are bums . Army, police officers, people who make the world run. That sounded good on the internet to these heaux 😭 no logic at all
Somebody get this generic Barry White lookinazz ninja off the panel! 😂😂😂
I think Logic lost it. Keep telling yourself there is no good men out here, keep it up women and see what happens!!!!
Guys, do not fall for the trick bag when women goes to the EXTREME to wiggle out of certain questions
Logic’s response to Marva taking accountability was that she needs to be beat??? I know that nigga a time bomb waiting to go off, if he hasn’t beat some woman already.
Anton is doing Gods work😌💯🙏🏾
Anton was disagreeing with logic and Steve
Logic straight trading on the red pill community
Can’t find a man to hold her down but can find a man to fold her legs up.
Marva…THANK U SISTER!! We need more like u! What a breath of fresh air! Logic wear g-strings made of licorice! SIMP!!
"Should MEN be held accountable for a WOMAN'S CHOICE OF MEN"?!?!??!! 🤯🤯 That's it. WHERE'S MY PASSPORT AT?!?!?
how are WE to blame because YOU pick the worst men? Is this the twilight zone?
Anton is absolutely correct
The men women don’t want are the men they need and these women except for Marva understands that. Women hate simp men but simp men are the better providers protectors and logical partners. Women are too caught up in expeditious experiences.
The problem is, it's not the woman who should be choosing men, but it's her father who is the one to choose for her.
Bingo !
That still would not always end well. You cant force love onto someone.
Responding to Logic's reverse question. Men have the luxury of missing out on a good women because if your ish is together as a man, there is an abundance of comparable women available to you. You can find similar to the one you lost. You may have had multiple on your roster.
This