How to Grow Garlic in the South
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- Опубліковано 7 гру 2021
- We've been growing elephant garlic for years, but have never tried growing hardneck or softneck garlic here in the south. Most folks say it doesn't get cold enough down here to grow traditional garlic, but we're willing to give it a try!
We've ordered 4 different softneck varieties from Filaree Farm (filareefarm.com) and have had them sitting in the fridge for two months. Join as we plant these and tell you about some of the strategies we'll be using to improve our chances of success.
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I love planting garlic. Where are your little feet with adding garlic? Travis, let them get down to the ground and save your back. 🤗 have a good day.
They were in school when I was shooting this one, or else I would had them helping.
@@LazyDogFarm I know that's right. They r closer to that level...I always say. 😄
I live in the piney woods of Texas so pine straw is my mulch of choice and it works really well for my garlic, even in fabric grow bags! 👍🏻I don’t use it everywhere but it even makes fantastic ground cover for my garden walkways (over cardboard to keep the weeds out)! I figure the forest loves it, why wouldn’t my garden? It’s been great for my asparagus patch too!
I got my toboggan in the mail today!!! Also, I got those 22 Mexican Red Silver garlic!!! Withing 1/2 hour, they were in the ground!!! Will keep you posted!!! Than you Trav for your knowledge, help and generosity!!! Look forward to every "Lazy Dog Farm" when they pop up!!! Keep them coming.
Glad you got the garlic and shirt. Thanks for your order!
You can mulch half of each row. That will give you better data to judge the benefits of mulching the garlic.
Not a bad idea!
I live in Phoenix Az , 9b. I grew hard neck last growing season. I did put in the fridge for 9 weeks the planted 4 inches deep. I ordered late so they were out of soft neck. But It was a great harvest. My smaller ones were in the firmer soil. My larger ones were growing in lose soil. This year I ordered early spring and they were delivered in august so I have plenty of time for vernalization. even though I didn’t really have to put soft neck in the fridge if my house was cool enough. Mine is not. I have to keep daytime temps at 82 or pay a ton in electric so I have in the fridge. I have watched a vitriolic where have of the soft neck garlic was put in fridge fire 8 weeks in zone 8b and half in a cool, dark area in the house. The harvest results were that the ones not refrigerated were a larger then then ones refrigerated. They were all the same type of garlic. I am happy to say that my garlic is storing better than I had hopped. So I will be planting my largest hard necked garlic bulbs as well.
Ya know, last few years I've had issues with garlic here in south jersey, we are zone 7a in my area, south jersey is that area below Trenton it's about the southern half of New Jersey. basically if your in new jersey and they say South Jersey rather then New jersey, your in South jersey.
Now with garlic here, they say plant it the end of sept beginning of oct, but the last 5 years or so, it's so warm that by dec they are a foot tall and in full growth, doesn't sound like a problem, but, in spring when it does warm up, staying above 60, rather then bouncing between on the low end 20 something (at night mostly) and between 40 and 65 most of the winter. it doesn't loose the leaves, but it tends to regrow and replace them. Then you end up with smaller bulbs then you started with. The weather has definitely changed since i was a kid, (I'm 59) it just doesn't get cold here anymore. we might like last year, one month, feb was winter like, but still not that cold, just nasty little snows and freezing temps. It will get into the 20's, but only maybe a day or two at a time, and i didn't look but the entire winter couldn't have more then 20 days like that, prolly not even 20, and those days are spread out all winter long. So... i planted the 2nd week of nov, so , so far no visible growth, lol, now this could mean they aren't gonna grow, or, was a good idea and they'll grow in spring. Guess we'll see, i have a feeling they won't grow, prolly rot in the ground, but ,, oh well im tired of sorry looking garlic. good luck with yours, i'd go real easy on the water tho, they like moist not wet, well drained soil.
Thanks for sharing your experiences. Hope you're able to determine the best planting time through your experimentation.
Awesome video Travis. Interesting to see how it's done in different parts of the country. I'm in zone 6 and plant hard neck garlic. I always plant the biggest cloves. Good luck with the garlic.
Thanks for joining us Carmen!
I would use them pineneedles you have behind you to mulch. They work great.
Yes they do!
I've been growing the exact same garlic for almost 20 years now. Hardneck, here in Idaho where we have frozen ground for a few months. They get huge. If you assume 7 cloves per bulb, what you end up doing is re-planting one seventh of your crop, and it's self-sustaining. I hope these work out for you!
That's the plan -- to have a self-sustaining seed stock like we do with the elephant garlic.
@@LazyDogFarm I got in like 500 cloves of elephant by the skin of my teeth at the tail end of my Chinese flu ..made 2 50ft runs with the tiller almost killed me
We planted soft neck garlic for the first time last year. They were planted in November and harvested in late May. Very little maintenance. Kept them fertilized and weeded. Zone 8b. Coastal Alabama.
Good to hear it worked for you!
I am in Baton Rouge and planted mine late November. Almost to may and they are starting to yellow and sag a bit. When should I pull them ?
Oh Travis I have to say I love all of your content, but the music in this video has me jammin in my kitchen! Great choices on the🎶🎵🎶👩🌾
Glad we got you moving!
i don't see why the soft neck won't grow for you. best of luck with it.great info.
Thanks John!
Travis I can't tell you how many times I been told you can't grow this or that. More than once I proved them wrong 🤣. Grow on young man. God bless
I like the way you think!
When I lived down south would take the garlic and stick it in the fridge for 4 to 5 weeks and then plan it out. That way it would trick it banking it went through winter! And as for the mulching which I know you don’t like to do, but consider using compost as your mulch. It does work very well
That plot already has about 4-5" of compost on it. I guess I could add more, but I was thinking the straw might keep things cooler.
That's what I do. I don't put straw on it but put a couple 3 decent handfuls of compost and this year alfalfa pellets. So far they are looking good. I am in the same growing zone 8
I’m a northerner so my experience is different. I use unfinished compost as mulch. I make my own compost with yard and kitchen waste. When I harvest it there are still chunks of things that haven’t broken down like peanut shells and small twigs and even dry leaves. Your compost looks finished with nothing that’s still recognizable. I also use leaves as mulch. Evergreens don’t grow great here (I have noticed a lot of disease on pine trees when I drive around) so I don’t have pine needles readily available.
I believe I'd vote for the wheat straw mulch if your intent is to keep your soil a touch cooler just a little longer. Just got a bag each of NatureSafe 8-5-5 and 13-0-0 but bought it from New Country Organics rather than Seven Springs. They shipped from their facility in Lubbock, Texas here to Colorado and I saved about 40 bucks in freight.
I just got more too! The rep brought me a few bags of 8-5-5 and some of the 10-2-8 to try. The 10-2-8 looks more like a chicken feed crumble than the pellets with the 8-5-5 and 13-0-0.
I did the fridge trick and had successful garlic in my raised bed last year. Didn’t use mulch - cloves were decent but not huge. I’m about 2 hours south of you (in north florida) . Planted early November and harvested in late spring when apx 1/3 of the leaves were browning.
Great to hear you were successful. Thanks for sharing!
I’m experimenting with hard neck garlic in central NC. I’m new to the area and learning what I can grow.
Best way to learn is to experiment!
I am in southern California zone 9 and I have been growing soft neck garlic successfully without having to put them in the fridge first. My initial garlic was store bought but now I save a few from my crop each year to replant. The resulting bulbs are 2 or more inches large. They're larger than those you would find in the store. I'm sure you will be successful, I have never had problems growing them
Thanks for sharing that Alice. I might do some testing next year to compare cloves kept in the fridge versus ones that aren't.
I planting in sept. So are we planting late. My double row is already a 1ft tall and it is mulch so good luck
This will be fun to follow.
I think so too!
Thanks for sharing 🙏 😎 🏖 🏝
My pleasure!!
Great looking garlic cloves there!
It's going to be great!
Peace on your doorstep!
Thanks Amilynn!
That has to be tough to do. I usually start my garlic at Halloween and pick after Memorial Day depending on variety.
I would have planted it sooner had I received it sooner. We may experiment with the refrigeration times in the future, but wanted to give them a full two months in the fridge since it was our first try.
I grew 4 different varieties last year in Zone 8A east tx. They did well but we did have the snowpocolapse.
Ahh yes, forgot about all the snow last year. That probably helped significantly.
I planted some garlic early this year in spring, and It came out with only one large clove.... I guess it makes sense to store it in the cold, never knew that!
That's a sign that it didn't get cold enough for it -- no "stratification."
It’s exciting to see your garlic go in the ground. Up here I plant around the third week of October and harvest around mid July. I grow garlic from the Porcelain group, Rocambole group and the True Purple stripe group.
Klaus
They're up an growing well now. Plants about 10" tall.
Travis , hope you have a great production on the garlic.
I hope so too!
I think you'll be alright. I've been growing soft necks for years, but we do have a good bit more cold hours than you. It might be tough for you, or you might not want to fool with it, but I plant close to a fence row and drape a little shade cloth up there when I'm getting close to harvest. Cuts some of our warmer afternoon sun and keeps them just a bit cooler. Good luck!
Good idea on the shade cloth!
I'm in middle Tennessee I used pine needles to mulch mine that I raise last winter
I could do that. There's definitely no shortage of pine straw around here.
Hi Travis. I think your water lines mite be experiencing some frost heaving. Trying a hardneck variety called music here in mid Tennessee.
Mulching with oak leaf and grass clippings. John S.
Could be, although it's strange that it was only those three rows and wasn't happening in any of the other plots.
Could be more moisture in those locations.
Good luck with the four varieties of garlic! Can’t wait to see how they perform! Best wishes from Kate in Olympia, WA
Thanks Kate! Seems like all these garlic varieties originated from your neck of the woods.
garden is looking great
Thanks Bradley!
Hope your garlic is a success 👍We've got a pound each of hardneck and softneck in the ground ourselves. Travis, do I remember y'all blanching and freezing field peas? Which video do I need to look for to see that?
I don't recall the exact video we did that, but we'll be blanching and freezing our English peas on the next video. It's the same exact process, so hopefully that will help.
Whew! That's a lot of planning and work - I hope it pays off. I grew hardneck garlic at my old home and got some reasonable-sized bulb - Nothing to write home about, though.
If it works, it will be well worth it. If it doesn't work, at least we know.
Good luck with the garlic!!!! ✌
Thanks Mark B!
I live in zone 8 NC. I dont fridgerate mine. But i do plant them in high raised beds with very loose compost. they stay higher and dryer-and hopefully colder. Turns out pretty good. Not huge but decent. The soft neck gives good size heads with small cloves. The hard neck i get smaller heads. but they have less cloves of a much larger size. So i go for smaller heads with bigger cloves. I have thought about covering my raised beds in the winter with ice- when its cold and would take a few days to melt. I may fridge em if yours work out. What i do get is a bucket of garlic with awesome flavor!
Sounds like what you're doing is working!
I planted 1066 garlic cloves last month up here in Northern PA.
Four different varieties but mostly my old faithful hard neck German White.
Some places do better with soft neck planted in fall and some plant in early spring.
IF I can offer 2 huge tips... Make sure they get sufficient water in the early growth stages and Mulch, mulch mulch.
Straw, Hay, wood chips, compost... something, anything to keep them moist between watering.
Best of luck and will be interested to see how it works for you.
Thanks for the tips Dusty. The drip tape should allow us to keep them sufficiently watered, but I think adding the straw will help too.
@@LazyDogFarm The second benefit of the mulch is to suppress weeds. Garlic does not like weeds.
Enjoy !
I was afraid i planted them too late last week im relief now 😁
I hope I'm not too late. We shall see.
Oh yeah!!!been waiting for you to plant the garlic. I hope it works out!!!!fingers crossed. Have you did the sweet potato taste test yet???
Have not done an official sweet potato test, but we've been eating lots of them and they're all good!
Easy way to grow garlic start u a permanent bed harvest as u need it let multiply will come back year after year
I've seen that done too. Looks like it works well.
You mentioned "Wheat straw" to mulch with. I used it under my winter squash earlier this season here in East TN. 1st frost naturally ended the squash but, I have a really green, really thick stand of Winter Wheat now... LOL... Built in cover crop. For some reason, the winter wheat in this region has issues with mildew or some other moisture laden parasite so, its harvested seed and stalk and baled. Looking forward to getting my new Toboggan. Haven't had a nice one in years. Keep up the great content!!!
Thanks for the order Jeffrey! Our wheat straw will sprout too, but it's nothing significant.
Try hardneck after this success. 43 f fridge rest for months would help!
Might just do that!
@@LazyDogFarm I have no doubt you will make it, in the name of Jesus!
Sure hope it works for you there. Sounds like you got a good plan. I tend to plant my garlic about 4 or 5 Inches between bulbs.
Thanks for sharing that info. I read that some folks plant them that close. But I also read that they might not get as big when spaced close. I was a little nervous to test the spacing too much considering they might not produce at all.
Should make a for a good experiment having 2 of each type. I'm really interested to see when your harvest time will be. I harvest my hard neck garlic in mid June to the 1st week of July. With your season heating up much faster than mine, I'm thinking maybe...early to mid May??
I'm thinking some time between mid-April and early-May, just depending on how fast summer arrives.
For mulch have you tried the pine chips you can buy as bedding? From tractor supply for example may be an alternative for wheat straw
I haven't tried that. I have some wheat straw under the barn that we used on our Halloween hay ride. That's why I was thinking of using it.
Curios are you guys going to try some of your leftover garlic and if you do could you let us know which one you liked the most
I should have saved some to sample, but we bagged it all so we could ship it to those who placed orders.
Great garlic content!! Curious to see how that does in your neck of the woods. As far as mulch goes, you could get a load of that gin trash compost and use it as mulch or have a local tree service drop a load of wood chips. Both would work well and help build your soil.
Thanks Tim. I'm not aware of any wood chip sources around here. Most of the tree guys I know don't use chippers.
@@LazyDogFarm next time im gonna ask the right of way guys clearing the trees every 2 years to dump some wood chips they parked next to my house last time.
@@LazyDogFarm Another thought on compost. Ever considered creating a new plot (or using one of the existing ones) and growing alfalfa for the sole purpose of cutting it before flowering and using the hay for mulch?? Alfalfa is a great source of nitrogen as it breaks down, and you would have it on-site and readily available.
Oops...when I bought garlic earlier in October, I bought Georgia Crystal, not knowing it was a hardneck variety. Oh well...I put it in the 'fridge around the end of October and I won't plant it out until the end of this month. 1st time growing garlic and attempting it in a container. This will be fun lol...😁
We'll learn together! I had no idea what I was buying either. lol
Ambree you will be fine cause you refrigerated it. Once the leaves die back and you harvested be sure to make certain you dry your garlic out before popping back into the fridge for next year crop. If you don't dry them out first they could mold on you. Also when storing don't use a zip lock bag unless you poke some holes in it. I find a brown paper bag works best. Good luck 🤞
Great video Travis. I just started garlic last year and replanted my stock in November.
Do you live beside a racetrack???
Haha. No I don't, but the cars do fly down this road. I'm at the bottom of a hill so they have plenty of momentum by the time they get down by my house. lol
it's been a warm one so far her in north GA I'm a touch worried. though I'm sure my wild hard neck will do ok, it's become native here in GA. It don't get any bulbils but a full flower head like onions. looks to be some sort of porcelain verity. I Got another year before ill have enough to start eating them but man are they great. they handle weed pressure and require less food than any other garlic I've grown. I know they will grow as far south as pine mountain GA(Bout and hour south of Atlanta) as I've seen a UA-cam video from there showing them off. other than that I can't find any info about them. I collected my seed cloves from a single wild plant I found a couple years ago. They used to be quite common but have been getting harder to find, so I decided to go ahead and add them to my garden. once I have enough ill toss some back out
Sounds good. I'd like to try them once you get enough to share.
My tape does the same thing in soft compost when the temp changes alot.
Makes sense. I think the loose compost had a lot to do with it.
I've grown elephant garlic here in se nc for almost ten years destroyed a full acre last year ,market dried up. While garlic likes plenty of water it's not to fond of wet feet very interested to see how it does with the water supply at its feet.
We've been growing it on drip for years. All the compost we've added helps to keep things from getting too waterlogged. But I agree, they don't want it too wet.
It’s Garlic Time, fit you, been waiting for this vlog.
I think mulching is more to reduce weeds due to the Length of the Growing Season, just like Onions.
Mulching does help with the weeds.
Makes sense. I usually don't have a ton of weed issues in the garlic, but I am worried about the soil getting too warm too soon in spring.
@@LazyDogFarm we had a warm spring in Sydney Australia, the Garlic was okay, harvest fine now it won’t stop raining, each day a little which is good to save watering the Potatoes but it’s a real pain working in wet soil.
The Elno Cycle.
It's actually to keep the garlic insulated over the winter. It also reduces weeds like you said which is good because garlic are a shallow plant.
It should work for you, I have a UA-cam friend in central Florida that did refrigerator trick... I need to try elephant garlic, but i usually just plant my hard Neck...Have you ever noticed Wild Garlic growing in your area? It looks like the wild onion, but the greens are Flat instead of round. They grow all over my yard here in Tn...
I'll see a few in the yard here and there, but not a ton of it.
I am by no means an expert, this is my first year trying garlic. I am in zone 10b/11a in South Florida. I planted two types of creole garlic (ajo rojo and Cuban purple) in my beds, I saved a couple heads and have had them in my refrigerator for the last 4 weeks. The others I did not vernalize, just planted straight out. I have read creole garlic does better in tropical climates, you may want to look into them for a future planting. I did mulch heavily. So far all look good. I also had some softneck silverskins that were accidentally put in the refrigerator and forgotten about. When I went to use them they were sprouting so I planted them in between some cabbage, bok choy and eggplant. They also look pretty good but not as good as the creoles. In a couple weeks I will plant the vernalize creoles and some elephant garlic. I have no idea if any of these will bulb. One question, was I supposed to vernalize the elephant garlic?
No need to Vernalize elephant garlic
The elephant garlic doesn't require vernalization because it's actually a leek. It will do just fine without really cold temps.
option.
Was wondering how the Alfa is doing do mix it into the solid or just broadcast it
We just broadcast it on top of the soil, but you could mix it into the soil. No real definite results yet as the onions are just now starting to grow. Might be a while before we can tell anything.
I planted my elephant garlic last month and it is up and growing. I also planted the corms I got from last years crop. they have not come up, yet, Keeping my fingers crossed, are they slower to come up?
I've never planted corms, so not sure.
How long between outta the fridge and the planting day? Please and thank you.
I went straight from the fridge to the ground.
From what i understand, the garlic will just make a big bulb instead of breaking into smaller cloves like we think of garlic being, if it doesnt get cold enough.
I assume you have solved that with the fridge. But maybe you just want bigger cloves? 😉😂
I'd like to have the stratification and the individual cloves, but we'll see what happens ...
is chilling the irigation water an ortion?
It would probably warm to the temp of the soil pretty quickly, so it wouldn't provide the sustained cold that it needs.
what nature safe do you use on your tomato plants thanks
Haven't used any on tomatoes yet. I just started using this stuff earlier this year, so next spring will be the first run with it on tomatoes. I plan using the 8-5-5 because it has extra calcium in it which helps with any blossom end rot issues.
@@LazyDogFarm thanks Travis I will give it a try
Travis, how many pounds or grams is a half gallon scoop of 13- 0-0? Thank you.
Not sure. Hard to overdo it with that stuff, so we usually apply on the liberal side of things.
Travis, if the skin comes off the garlic especially elephant, after having placed in freezer, will it still come up after planting? That happened to me.
I've never noticed any issues with planting peeled vs. unpeeled cloves.
I'm pretty sure they are supposed to go in the refrigerator, not the freezer.
They grow garlic in the Mediterranean, how do they do it, it doesn't get very cold there, does it?
Good point!
Is there a difference in elephant garlic sold for seed stock any different than elephant garlic sold for consumption? There's a huge price difference between the two.
Good question. I've heard that garlic in the grocery store is sprayed with something to keep it from sprouting. Not sure if that's true or not, but have heard that. Have also heard of folks buying organic garlic (which has supposedly not been sprayed) at the grocery store and having good results.
@@LazyDogFarm i found a bulb in the 59 cent stack from walmart that was already sprouted i bought to plant and it seems to be doing well. just thought maybe the seed stock was treated to help grow
@@LazyDogFarm I PLANTED ELEPHANT GARLIC I PURCHASED AT PUBLIX HERE IN WEST CENTRAL FLORIDA AND IT HAS SPROUTED FOR ME. IT LOOKS GOOD SO FAR SO I AM HOPING TO HAVE A SMALL HARVEST FROM MY CONTAINER.
Where are you located
south GA
On no! I planted my elephant garlic 8" apart. Am I doomed?
You'll be fine. We probably could have planted ours that close, but we went with 12" because that's the emitter spacing on the tape.
Thanks