This has been my go to farm for a while. While only can't leech will brick me, I hate bricking maps. So Ive been running one multitude, one lineage, and one hordes with great results.
I'm probably going to ~permanenently keep a strategy like this as one of my atlas trees too, because although I don't particularly like selling non-t17 maps, I *really like* being able to quickly build an 8 mod map pool for my own use.
In that regard I prefer just running some T17 maps for that. Whenever I roll one with 150%+ more maps I keep it for later, then run them with singular focus and map scarabs to print 30-40 maps each. You could even skip boss and use the cheapest T17 map for that.
Did this all league long after watching your previous video and had a blast, just recently switched from it coz the demand on TFT for 8 mod maps kinda dropped, they do sell but it's not instant dms like it used to be during league start which is understandable.
pretty nice guide as usual, wonder if you plan to do some gambling video -> cards, keys, valdo boxes? Opened 50 valdo's boxes -> 2x nimis, bought 2x card of House of Mirror and lost them both as I should.
Divine were barely 100c in the evening market yesterday (12 hours ago), but rose to 130 this morning. I made a pretty penny on the exchange, but that is going to be nothing compared to the real traders. They made bank like crazy.
Have you played around with the influencing horde scarab with this? Thought about dropping 1 of the risks to throw it in. Did the same thing for crop rotation and the additional altars is very noticeable.
I've been doing something close to this to level from 99, what do you think of adding the maps drop with delirium scarab to resupply your own stock? Downside is I have a few very spicy T17s for later, which probably aren't worth seelling.
Cartography Scarab of RISK… Be very careful of those when running an Animate Guardian, I lost mine on the second T17 map I ever tried, dunno what I was thinking 😂.
Selling 8mod maps now really get lowered, if u have 1000+ maps the selling take ages sometimes, the market is fulled with Jungle Valley maps . Maybe Glacier a escape point for this , or you have active mappers and those use the trash maps
Have you tried specifically farming guardian maps with the influencing scarab of conversion? Guardian sets seem to have pretty high value compared to random t16, but I dunno if it's worth swapping out any of the other scarabs for it.
Something that I've always wondered is what is the impact on your other farming strats when farm your own 8mods. Like, they're "free" in the sense you don't have that 300 chaos line on each of your other strats. But they're not since you, of course, have to get the scarabs to farm them up. On top of that, if you're farming on a build that can do all mods but have another special build that can't run all mods, how do you quantify the ones you can't run except on your map farmer? That seems like a build by build distinction as depending on your luck and how many mods you can't run, you need to get at lest X number of maps out of the Y number you dropped that is less than the 10c for the map flat out. Or maybe more like 12c if you need a regex. Buuut, you of course then have Z number of maps to run to farm more maps. All this to say, I hate buying and selling maps and if there was a system that feeds itself, that would be so much better imo. Edit: Did a small test of like 20ish maps. Pretty much if you only look at maps that I as a Fulcrum Chief could run, I would lose money farming my maps. BUT, that's not counting things like T17s and random other stuff I got. So if you don't mind the time farming them (man Toxic Sewers with an explody build is fun) then it's a wash. But you'd make some money probably with things like Ritual or just random drops.
nof you forgot to mention: how much dps you do, and how high your ehp is? cuz running 8mod maps with all those scarabs is not easy. see, im running t16 8 modded with wisp and titanium scarabs 100% delirious, but i do 150m dps and my ehp is close to 300k, so im basically immortal, and i 1hit everything. having farming strats is 1 thing, but more impotant is to tell, what it takes to run them effectively
You posted an 8-mod map farming strategy about a month ago. Can you directly compare what you're doing now vs before? What's your personal favorite way to sell maps? I have a lot of 8-mod maps and I can way over sustain any particular layout I like, but I find them pretty annoying to try to sell on e.g. TFT. Other sellers tend to have BIG bulk and I might have my entire map tab full of 8 mods, but I can't compete with someone that has 1k+ of each popular layout vs the 72 that fit in my tab.
Prices, scarabs, eldritch altars, and character build have all changed. As for competing with someone who has thousands, big bulk sellers can be slow to reply, so not everyone is going to buy from them. The most important aspect of selling maps is to just keep trying until they're gone. Simple as.
@@PathofEvening cool so fundamentally a similar strategy and this is more an update on a favorite that you keep coming back to as opposed to any significant pivots in any of the high level ideas IIUC
Ive been doing this with red altars, im not blocking any mechanics...using those points where i can for map drop % increase and modifiers. Also been varying scarabs...only have completed 20 maps but i got 20 t17s. Good rng i guess as I got 3 maps that dropped 2 and 3 none.
Oh ive been doing the pack juicing since multitudes dropped a lot this late in the league. I mix 2 multi/hordes/ 2multi/plenty etc...3 multi just cycling them.
I like scarabs of risk but because of the map mod amplifier stuff from the tree, getting just 1 annoying mod just completely ruins it for me. E.g im a bleed glad and chance to avoid bleed slows everything down so much for me. Even worse, phys reflect, reduced chance to block etc all make the maps substantially slower, and sadly they come up pretty often. Is that an issue you ran into yourself with some of the more annoying mods for your build?
Fortunately, LS Slayer at this point can do literally any mod, even Cannot Be Leeched (although it's pretty sketchy), so thankfully no, but at lower investment that would have absolutely been a concern.
@@c-tothefourth4879 Following up on this, I ran the risk scarab and pretty much ran into all of the nasty mods you can think of. In general, they're not as bad if they're not originally on the map itself. Apparently mods that are coming from the scarab do not get boosted by the atlas tree, so monsters won't have 95% chance to avoid bleed, or reflect 30% of your damage etc. It will still be kinda sketchy but if your build is set up well at this point you wouldn't have a problem.
No, because it will convert your map, scarabs, and map device. You'll get extra mods, but you won't have the Escalation, Corruption, or Risk scarabs, so there's no synergy. Also, the map is random, so you get no control over your t17 map drop. It's really bad.
@@joeanon8568 Your Corrupted Rare Maps and any Map Crafting options applying to them are modified unpredictably when opened Maps modified in this way have 1-3 additional random Map Modifiers
How do you bulk sell and price 8-mod maps? I've tried poexchange and even TFT (I dont want to, but I'm desperate) I have a full tab of mixed corrupted 8 mod maps but I just NEVER get an offer
@@emarbeats6896 nah.. learn from previous league. Ppl just stockpiling chaos and wait for the divine to price drop.. then they buy divine.. trust me next league also happens the same thing
@@luq7657 don't have to trust. All we have to do is see if ONLY the ratio between divines and chaos is changing or if other things need fewer chaos now, too. Alternatively, to answer the OP question, are things requiring more divs than before instead? You need something else to compare values to to objectively know the answer. Then you can determine which thing is changing (if only one thing, which in such a complex system is unlikely). All of this can be analyzed on poeninja or in game in the currency exchange if you have a baseline you recall to compare things to.
I almost quit the leauge week 2 because of how much I hated t17 farming and how much less currency t16 had compared to them. Turns out I was overreacting I took some of your strats and a couple of other youtubers strats and changed a few things around and I have 2 10+ div per hour strats and 15+ div per hour strat all in t16 maps I think t16 8 mod regex maps are better than t17 in a lot of things and they are way easier and more fun to run in my opinion. t17 are a trap
@@PathofEvening thanks bro you're legit the best poe youtuber this league all your strats are fun and rewarding from crop rotation to the 3 div a map strong boxes am glad I saw your crop rotation video drop on my feed subbed and turned noties on after that video am glad that you're getting tons of views and subs this league cause you deserve it gl bro.
i did the same. was about ready to give up on league. watched this video and now im farming my own T17 Fortress maps to run imbued harvest on. and this strat is just fun. no futzing with mechanics just open a map and BLAST. get tons of scarabs and the occasional raw divine or valdos too. and tons of gold, now i can afford to run map runners
Think it's worth dropping some blockers to go down and pick up ritual? EDIT: or (fewer) blockers + influenced pack size nodes... On another note, i have noticed the selling of maps part has really slowed down now. They do sell still, but it's not as good as it was even a week ago :| Not really a problem for me personally, cause I'm chronically online, but i can see this being an issue for most ppl :/
@@PathofEvening liquidation time/effort is a totally valid concern for any potential farming strategy. Value in your stash is only good so much as it actually helps you do the things you want in the game. I love getting resources that I will use myself because I save the value *and the time* of not having to trade for them. But if I am farming to sell I get the value minus the trading time. Things that sell on the exchange or have high demand and fast trades in bulk are slightly more desirable if you're trying to convert everything to divines to buy the next big upgrade
Underground sea/toxic sewers have an advantage of good adjecent layouts: For sea it is toxic sewers for sewers it is: - jungle valley - City square - undergraound sea this makes 8mod maps significantly more profitable when selling as they are 10c random 12/3c regex so 10/9 to a div
you really dont get T17 every other map, dont get caught in this trap guys.. :) Tested it, 60 maps, 10 T17 - thats very different from 30 I should have dropped, almost every map over 300% quant, with gold flask and ventors gamble just to increase chances for more expensive stuff..it aint that good as its presented.
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This has been my go to farm for a while. While only can't leech will brick me, I hate bricking maps. So Ive been running one multitude, one lineage, and one hordes with great results.
Yeah, that works!
I'm probably going to ~permanenently keep a strategy like this as one of my atlas trees too, because although I don't particularly like selling non-t17 maps, I *really like* being able to quickly build an 8 mod map pool for my own use.
Bingo
In that regard I prefer just running some T17 maps for that. Whenever I roll one with 150%+ more maps I keep it for later, then run them with singular focus and map scarabs to print 30-40 maps each. You could even skip boss and use the cheapest T17 map for that.
@@gehirndoper totally agree. It's a waste of time and scarab slot farming 8mods in t16s.
These comments get it
Did this all league long after watching your previous video and had a blast, just recently switched from it coz the demand on TFT for 8 mod maps kinda dropped, they do sell but it's not instant dms like it used to be during league start which is understandable.
We just don't want to spend the time selling 'em
pretty nice guide as usual, wonder if you plan to do some gambling video -> cards, keys, valdo boxes? Opened 50 valdo's boxes -> 2x nimis, bought 2x card of House of Mirror and lost them both as I should.
Probably not
Divine were barely 100c in the evening market yesterday (12 hours ago), but rose to 130 this morning.
I made a pretty penny on the exchange, but that is going to be nothing compared to the real traders. They made bank like crazy.
This is a perfect example of why we try avoid stating any prices when we can. It's a live economy.
Yep, I like domination as well.
=)
Have you played around with the influencing horde scarab with this? Thought about dropping 1 of the risks to throw it in. Did the same thing for crop rotation and the additional altars is very noticeable.
That can absolutely work, yeah.
I've been doing something close to this to level from 99, what do you think of adding the maps drop with delirium scarab to resupply your own stock? Downside is I have a few very spicy T17s for later, which probably aren't worth seelling.
If you want them for self farm, it's a good addition. But not if you want to sell them
Awesome video, thanks for the info. Can you explain why you start by rushing to the boss?
Eldritch altar mods.
I love this atlas. Are there any mods you really don't want to be faced with though? Reflect, less block chance etc?
Depends on your build.
@PathofEvening yea I meant specifically in the context of LS Slayer.
No leech
Cartography Scarab of RISK… Be very careful of those when running an Animate Guardian, I lost mine on the second T17 map I ever tried, dunno what I was thinking 😂.
oops
Selling 8mod maps now really get lowered, if u have 1000+ maps the selling take ages sometimes, the market is fulled with Jungle Valley maps . Maybe Glacier a escape point for this , or you have active mappers and those use the trash maps
Yeah, definitely a good idea to mix things up a bit on map preference if you are struggling to sell them.
Do you have dunes set as your favourite map? Also do you have any other map scryed onto it? Thanks.
Yes and yes, Mesa is scried onto Dunes.
Have you tried specifically farming guardian maps with the influencing scarab of conversion?
Guardian sets seem to have pretty high value compared to random t16, but I dunno if it's worth swapping out any of the other scarabs for it.
We tried it, but you're probably best dropping the corruption scarab because people don't want to buy corrupted guardian maps
Something that I've always wondered is what is the impact on your other farming strats when farm your own 8mods. Like, they're "free" in the sense you don't have that 300 chaos line on each of your other strats. But they're not since you, of course, have to get the scarabs to farm them up.
On top of that, if you're farming on a build that can do all mods but have another special build that can't run all mods, how do you quantify the ones you can't run except on your map farmer? That seems like a build by build distinction as depending on your luck and how many mods you can't run, you need to get at lest X number of maps out of the Y number you dropped that is less than the 10c for the map flat out. Or maybe more like 12c if you need a regex. Buuut, you of course then have Z number of maps to run to farm more maps.
All this to say, I hate buying and selling maps and if there was a system that feeds itself, that would be so much better imo.
Edit: Did a small test of like 20ish maps. Pretty much if you only look at maps that I as a Fulcrum Chief could run, I would lose money farming my maps. BUT, that's not counting things like T17s and random other stuff I got. So if you don't mind the time farming them (man Toxic Sewers with an explody build is fun) then it's a wash. But you'd make some money probably with things like Ritual or just random drops.
Yeah, it would be nice if they made some modifications to the mapping system.
there is a system which allows for farming your own maps while you run them, it is running non 8 mod maps
fair
nof you forgot to mention: how much dps you do, and how high your ehp is? cuz running 8mod maps with all those scarabs is not easy. see, im running t16 8 modded with wisp and titanium scarabs 100% delirious, but i do 150m dps and my ehp is close to 300k, so im basically immortal, and i 1hit everything.
having farming strats is 1 thing, but more impotant is to tell, what it takes to run them effectively
Ok
cool story bro
You posted an 8-mod map farming strategy about a month ago. Can you directly compare what you're doing now vs before?
What's your personal favorite way to sell maps? I have a lot of 8-mod maps and I can way over sustain any particular layout I like, but I find them pretty annoying to try to sell on e.g. TFT.
Other sellers tend to have BIG bulk and I might have my entire map tab full of 8 mods, but I can't compete with someone that has 1k+ of each popular layout vs the 72 that fit in my tab.
Prices, scarabs, eldritch altars, and character build have all changed. As for competing with someone who has thousands, big bulk sellers can be slow to reply, so not everyone is going to buy from them. The most important aspect of selling maps is to just keep trying until they're gone. Simple as.
@@PathofEvening cool so fundamentally a similar strategy and this is more an update on a favorite that you keep coming back to as opposed to any significant pivots in any of the high level ideas IIUC
Yep
Not the best but I like adding a bit of blight in with maybe a 78 chance of spawning for a chance of blighted maps with that buff
That can definitely work.
Ive been doing this with red altars, im not blocking any mechanics...using those points where i can for map drop % increase and modifiers. Also been varying scarabs...only have completed 20 maps but i got 20 t17s. Good rng i guess as I got 3 maps that dropped 2 and 3 none.
Oh ive been doing the pack juicing since multitudes dropped a lot this late in the league. I mix 2 multi/hordes/ 2multi/plenty etc...3 multi just cycling them.
sounds good
I like scarabs of risk but because of the map mod amplifier stuff from the tree, getting just 1 annoying mod just completely ruins it for me. E.g im a bleed glad and chance to avoid bleed slows everything down so much for me. Even worse, phys reflect, reduced chance to block etc all make the maps substantially slower, and sadly they come up pretty often. Is that an issue you ran into yourself with some of the more annoying mods for your build?
Fortunately, LS Slayer at this point can do literally any mod, even Cannot Be Leeched (although it's pretty sketchy), so thankfully no, but at lower investment that would have absolutely been a concern.
@@PathofEvening How does it cope with that?
@@c-tothefourth4879 if you instagibb a screen you don't have to leech, also on hit from claw still works
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@@c-tothefourth4879 Following up on this, I ran the risk scarab and pretty much ran into all of the nasty mods you can think of. In general, they're not as bad if they're not originally on the map itself.
Apparently mods that are coming from the scarab do not get boosted by the atlas tree, so monsters won't have 95% chance to avoid bleed, or reflect 30% of your damage etc. It will still be kinda sketchy but if your build is set up well at this point you wouldn't have a problem.
Assuming you can run it, is there any way to make twist of fate worthwhile? It's like a couple free risk scarabs, but you get less efficient layouts
No it's garbage
assuming you have zero affixes you cant run, i dont see why not
No, because it will convert your map, scarabs, and map device. You'll get extra mods, but you won't have the Escalation, Corruption, or Risk scarabs, so there's no synergy.
Also, the map is random, so you get no control over your t17 map drop.
It's really bad.
@@PathofEvening oooh it also changes scarabs? I need to read more carefully! Makes sense, thanks
@@joeanon8568 Your Corrupted Rare Maps and any Map Crafting options
applying to them are modified unpredictably when opened
Maps modified in this way have 1-3 additional random Map Modifiers
whats the blue attack he is doing called lie the lighting is it lighting strike ?
Lightning Strike
How do you bulk sell and price 8-mod maps? I've tried poexchange and even TFT (I dont want to, but I'm desperate)
I have a full tab of mixed corrupted 8 mod maps but I just NEVER get an offer
Gotta keep hustling!
@@PathofEvening sure, will do but what method do you use? Just price in the tab or something third party?
We specifically talked about the platforms we use in the video.
@@PathofEvening sorry, might have mixed things up. Been asking alot around, thanks!
When divines become cheaper is it the divines that have lost value or chaos that have gained value?
In this particular case its chaos becoming more expensive. People using chaos to roll t17s now
@@emarbeats6896 nah.. learn from previous league. Ppl just stockpiling chaos and wait for the divine to price drop.. then they buy divine.. trust me next league also happens the same thing
@@luq7657 don't have to trust. All we have to do is see if ONLY the ratio between divines and chaos is changing or if other things need fewer chaos now, too. Alternatively, to answer the OP question, are things requiring more divs than before instead? You need something else to compare values to to objectively know the answer. Then you can determine which thing is changing (if only one thing, which in such a complex system is unlikely).
All of this can be analyzed on poeninja or in game in the currency exchange if you have a baseline you recall to compare things to.
Thanks all who answered :)
I almost quit the leauge week 2 because of how much I hated t17 farming and how much less currency t16 had compared to them. Turns out I was overreacting I took some of your strats and a couple of other youtubers strats and changed a few things around and I have 2 10+ div per hour strats and 15+ div per hour strat all in t16 maps I think t16 8 mod regex maps are better than t17 in a lot of things and they are way easier and more fun to run in my opinion. t17 are a trap
Glad we helped keep you around this league! It's a pretty good one!
@@PathofEvening thanks bro you're legit the best poe youtuber this league all your strats are fun and rewarding from crop rotation to the 3 div a map strong boxes am glad I saw your crop rotation video drop on my feed subbed and turned noties on after that video am glad that you're getting tons of views and subs this league cause you deserve it gl bro.
Thank you, we appreciate the kind words. We have an advantage with there being 2 of us working on the channel :)
i did the same. was about ready to give up on league. watched this video and now im farming my own T17 Fortress maps to run imbued harvest on. and this strat is just fun. no futzing with mechanics just open a map and BLAST. get tons of scarabs and the occasional raw divine or valdos too. and tons of gold, now i can afford to run map runners
You take domination on the map device?
Yeah.
i think ggg nerfed 8mod drops because i tried this and got 2 8mods per map lmao
Sounds like RNG
Beauty
Thanks
Think it's worth dropping some blockers to go down and pick up ritual? EDIT: or (fewer) blockers + influenced pack size nodes...
On another note, i have noticed the selling of maps part has really slowed down now. They do sell still, but it's not as good as it was even a week ago :| Not really a problem for me personally, cause I'm chronically online, but i can see this being an issue for most ppl :/
We've seen some complaints in the comments, as if we control how fast they sell :)
@@PathofEvening liquidation time/effort is a totally valid concern for any potential farming strategy. Value in your stash is only good so much as it actually helps you do the things you want in the game. I love getting resources that I will use myself because I save the value *and the time* of not having to trade for them. But if I am farming to sell I get the value minus the trading time. Things that sell on the exchange or have high demand and fast trades in bulk are slightly more desirable if you're trying to convert everything to divines to buy the next big upgrade
No one is arguing those points ??
@@PathofEvening Let me rephrase; Do you think it's worth picking up ritual? And if so, what points would you drop for it.
Im doing strongbox, 8mod, with beyond.
Cool
Underground sea/toxic sewers have an advantage of good adjecent layouts:
For sea it is toxic sewers
for sewers it is:
- jungle valley
- City square
- undergraound sea
this makes 8mod maps significantly more profitable when selling as they are 10c random 12/3c regex so 10/9 to a div
True!
you really dont get T17 every other map, dont get caught in this trap guys.. :) Tested it, 60 maps, 10 T17 - thats very different from 30 I should have dropped, almost every map over 300% quant, with gold flask and ventors gamble just to increase chances for more expensive stuff..it aint that good as its presented.
Sounds like bad RNG. You should try clicking the mobs better.
Man really need help on selling those maps
Best advice is to just to keep trying!
Saturated good luck selling
yeah ok