@@TheOxfordPsych aw glad u liked it! After your video, I realized my enthusiasm for a writer (& musician) is probably more wisely placed. Then your reply doubled my affirmation!🤣 I've heard it's a grueling process and the more fun Jungian/depth psychology stuff I'm personally drawn to isn't really much a part of the academic world. Was analytical psychology touched on much at all in your 9 yrs?
Joshua Stephen Ward not at all - I think I’ve gotten one afternoon lecture once about it. It’s something I really want to be better informed about. I’m going to venture into Man and his Symbols.
@@TheOxfordPsych MAHS is very cool book. Personally, his memoirs Memories Dreams and Reflections & his work The Undiscovered Self have been life-changing books for me. I think they are better reads imo & better intros to Jung although MAHS may be better as a practicing clinician. Everyone is different though and it is material that you will probably have a really unique appreciation for with your background. MDR is a wild but gorgeous biography. Very original take on a bio that really altered how I saw my own life. All three of these books are mostly on UA-cam btw. I've listened to TUS probably a hundred times. I have even gone to sleep with it on & strangely found it influencing my writing. The one that has the black and white photo with the title in yellow blue and pink rectangles has a helpful glossary of Jungian psychological terms defined by Jung himself.pretty cool. I'm such a nerdy Jung fanboy 🤣
“There are no jobs anyway so you might as well study something you are passionate about.” I can’t remember who said this or where I read it but it’s painfully true.
@@yt_nh9347 my country is with the economy in a complete state of colapse, so engineers are even a national meme here for being the jobless of all the jobs.
That's misleading, I'm studying social work and my course along with mental health nursing has over 90% employment rate at virtually every University in the UK. Just some food for thought
@@cassie4705 ironically that number itself is misleading. Being employed doesn’t mean anything. Employed where? What pay? What field? I think she was referring to good paying jobs within the field of psychology, which is hard to come by. The field (for undergrads) is saturated and due to that fact you will be lucky to find a job in your field at all, regardless of pay The current stats are about ~65% of psychology undergrads will find work in their field (vs like 85-90% of graduates in psychology and like 80% of engineering undergrads) so it is pretty difficult overall. I would also say mental health nursing is probably a better field than psychology generally speaking Still a potential worthwhile major, but people should consider graduate school if they want to have both good/better pay and job security, depending on what you actually want to do within the field of course
Thats what Uni does to people, they make you feel like no matter how hard you try, there is always something better, more expert, higher.... I am a lawyer, quit my job and I decided to work as a cleaner, a snowboard instructor, diver, mountain guide, etc. I realized that if you live life competing in a system that is flawed you'll never get where you want to be. Instead, follow your passion, listen to your heart and live your best life. Yes, maybe you're not going to be employed but...who wants to have a boss anyway? Much better to use your psychology degree to build up confidence and self steem, and with a good attitude go offer your services to your community, through social media, recomendations, whichever way you like, and you'll succeed. With a good attitude the best outcomes are possible.
Had resigned the first time. The fear of being unemployed got to me and I rescinded the resignation. Worst mistake mistake because that manifests its way to hoow I deal with situations. Now I've made my mind up, it doesn't get much better instead the opposite happens. This is a cruel a devastating cycle. Credit will further lure you deeper.
@@adwaithunni469 D9ne deal. Awaiting for 1 months notice to be honest there's some fear in the action however the relief is better I'm more positive and focused to do better. Matter of fact I have rediscovered my inner child with endless potential. I need to let the euphoria phase pass, deal with reality and enjoy life again. Life is learning and I in learning to make meaningful interactions l. Hope this works out. A part of me believes so
I do a stable job but I don't intend to carry on. I have loved psychology for a long time and my interest is growing gradually. So I decided I would leave my job and go for it. Should I go for a degree or homeschool myself with the help of books available? Since college is afterall a part of a system that's all about sick competition and hopeless grading system. I am too old for that and I have had my share of suffocating college years. Insights please 🙏
I' m a Psych Junior in college, and going into it I already knew all this. It's a depressing fact that our society doesn't understand the need for mental health professionals. Going into Psych, you need to know exactly what you're going for and that you won't make much money. I chose Psych because it's my passion, not because it will make me rich.
@@yowzki7284 yeah i´m in the same place, my hope is that in some other countries, sweden or something like that, there are more jobs available in this field
People, life is what you make of it. She has her own view and she has her own biases and I have my own view and my own biases. Pursue what you want to pursue, a dream is a dream. Dreams aren't always structured, life will involve struggle no matter what decisions you make.
Eh. It's real, psych doesn't really give you much quality education. You get grade inflated, high-school level statistics, little to no scientific training, etc. Not to mention the degree inflation at every level-- that's what happens when you go into a degree that's been water down enough that everyone can do it, it makes it a grind. Even getting you a Ph.D only makes you about as educated as an undergraduate-level physics/bio/chem/eng/philosophy/english/whatever major. Like she said, you're the master of none, but but not even at a base level. There are better generalist degrees, you're not really knowledgeable or "good" at anything. Props to her for being honest about this.
@@jacob7270 she’s right.. I completely understood what she said. It just breaks my heart really, I’m in my first year studying psychology with neuroscience and this video makes me just feel regret and that perhaps I won’t get a job in psychology in the future. 2020 was a really tough year for everyone there’s a lot that I’m worried about and a lot that has happened in my life. One of the things I’m now worried about is the fact my degree is pointless and all my hard work most likely will go to waste .. that’s why I see this video as the saddest video
@@gloryercash6114 The problem is that psychology programs often don't require that much work they, along with business, have become the new "general degree" that's basically high school level. If you go to grad school you will get a job, but good luck paying off those loans on a average-to-below-average-salary. In the end it's your passion that matters, but you also need to be practical-- if you can see a way to succeed in psych, take it- if you can't, don't.
I got my bachelors in psychology but I know just as many people with other degrees (engineering, art, etc etc) that struggled to find the right pathway. Its not really about the degree or subject you study in college.... it's more about your work ethic and what you decide to do with it. An undergrad degree is just a degree. Its more about the market economy and what jobs are available and how you pursue opportunities. At least from my experience. Getting the degree helped me in other aspects of my life besides professionally... relationships, etc. But again depends on your situation in life, what you want to do. There are no formulas or straight pathways for success. Everyone is an individual with different needs. You just have to make an effort and keep trying until you are happy with what you are doing.
Yeah.. but they were looking for a pathway they loved. Unemployed engineers exist, but generally they can find a decent paid gig in the interim while they search for their passion. Most of the people in psych I know either 1. went back to school, 2. settled for average pay as a soul sucking bureaucrat, or 3. went into retail/things you don't need a degree for. It doesn't really educate you in anything that much, you have a highschool-level education in almost everything with psych, but a college level education in nothing. Not to mention it's alot harder to develop a decent work ethic in psych, the academic requirements are much lower. It requires way less time/effort to get a way better grade.
Nope, like she said, you have to bring value to organisation. With an engineering degree you can transfer the skills to a very broad range of jobs with good pay. Its not the same for most social sciences. My sister graduated in economics and it was very hard until she decided to go into accounting. This idea that all degrees are the same is nonsense.
I always suggest applied science degrees like nursing, respiratory therapy, physical therapy, electricity, etc. The job search is much easier because there aren’t many titles to look for and you will be trained to do a specific, skilled job. You come out of school able to take care of yourself. You can save money to do what you really want to do. Profit over passion.
@@lilidubois6470 Yeah i have to agree, i graduated in electrical engineering late 2019 and landed my first engineering job in 2020 with a 100k salary package. I can tell you that my mates in other majors are not making nearly as much if at all (thanks COVID). Additionally, my manager is in the 200k salary range so there is definitely career progression beyond low 6 figures.
@@clipnoir I think the downsides to a CS degree is that the some of the content is impractical, theoretical, and hence not applicable to most jobs outside of research and academia. The information taught in many programs is outdated. In the United States, it is also common to encounter CS professors who speak English poorly. In any case, CS is probably one of the most employable college majors you can choose. It will increase your professional status and employers will be less likely to try to lowball you if you have the skills and a degree. A CS degree alone will not prepare you to be a software developer, but it is still nice to have.
@user-xp4jr1mq8t hey can u guide me I'm a high-school graduate going into college kind of confused b/w choosing cs or phycology like both have their down side and for cs I'm not good in maths but here is phycology I don't think my country has many opportunities for it so I really confused about it😭
“If you do want to do it know exactly what you want to get out of it”, 100%, that’s the only way you can know all these things you mentioned and still choose to do psychology. Great video 🤍
@@TheOxfordPsych Turn to bible and allow CHRIST to be your therapist, psychologist and psychiatrist. No man nor women fits to be one. All are sinners and without glory, all are tempted and suffer the same. All are expected to REPENT AND BORN AGAIN, to LIVE HOLY AND GO AND SIN NO MORE. All are weak in the daily fight between their spirit and flesh. All these therapist, psychologist and psychiatrist, this world provides, can do is: to deceive and steal. They deceived you through all these “diagnoses” and they steal your money, through all the pills which you “need”. In short: they poison your mind and your overall health, leaving you with neither one. Therapist, Psychologist and Psychiatrist = Field where no human soul, never ever going to fit of being an help, no matter the among of years spend in “medical schools” or the decree gotten from there. ALL of us are daily deceived, no matter the walks of life.
I‘m thinking about majoring in Psychology because it is a field I am really passionate about. I think if you really love it and you are really good at it, you will be noticed and get a good job. I can‘t imagine studying something more „valuable“ and „forcing“ myself to learn stuff I do not really care about
Pyschology was my major...while my professor told me pysch nursing would be better so I changed my major bad mistake, I switched back over to pyschology... my matter what people say only follow your truth passion..
EXACTLY. I'm preparing myself to get into a post graduate program in clinical psychology and I can't imagine myself doing anything else but psychology despite being aware of the professional growth rate as compared to other professions (engineering, banking, medicine, etc)
This video is so important, thanks for making it! I feel like everyone considering psychology should watch this video. Unfortunately I totally agree with everything you said in this video. I’m just about to go into my final year of my psych degree and I wish I had chosen something else.
I think Psychology is something that you learn outside of the classroom. I've met people who have phd's in psychology but they have almost zero self awareness. Its a gift that you have naturally but it needs to be watered and nurtured and I believe if you do this you'll be very successful in helping people because you are in your purpose and God given calling. So it doesnt matter about the large volume of graduates or competition for jobs, if you have the gift you'll succeed no matter the odds.
100 percent. The most wisdom I ever got were from people involved in spirituality/buddhism teachings etc. I had a "chat" with this mental health practitioner who did Masters etc...and her insights were so dull that it made me confirm college is a joke. She recommended drinking water, exercising for better mental health. And I was thinking wow you did a Masters and that's all you have to say. I don't agree that if you have a gift you will succeed, not in a college environment anyway.
I really recommend mental health nursing. Not only does the degree at undergrad have an average of 95% guaranteed work within 6 months after graduating but it’s very similar to psychology but from a more practical perspective. Mental health nurses that work in community clinics ( like me) get to assess patients write clinical notes work along side doctors in diagnoses based on referral notes and have an active impact on someone’s mental health. In addition it’s very easy to climb up the ladder in terms of money. A lot of people are discouraged from nursing as they have a conception that the pay is rubbish but I advice you to think smart. Agency nurses ( like myself) earn £28-35 an hour and I graduated with my undergrad 2 years ago. Entry requirements are also a lot lower in comparison to psychology (MH nursing ranging from BBB-CDD) Any more questions on the issue I am happy to help.
@@mckenzieeleah you can go into nursing with any degree in the UK. Although psychology does help, it’s not essential. However, it is very ‘nursey’, you do a lot of nursing procedures e.g. injections, giving medications, taking blood pressure, temperature, IV and bloods etc. - Student Mental Health Nurse
@@katierina31 Hahahaha simula pa nung una ganyang ganyan na ang Psychology lalo na dito saten. It's fun learning about it but afterwards, nga nga. But I still held on to it. I realized that I didn't make a good choice for a degree a few days after graduation na. I'm glad I proceeded to Medicine. Not because walang future ang Psych, pero partly ganun na rin.
I’m a third year psychology student, and everything you’ve said in this video is so spot on with what I’ve been thinking about this course all along. I felt so demotivated and unsatisfied with this degree as I feel like I learned nothing practical that I can apply on my future job, because as you said the course is filled with theories that it really feels like a bogus degree. I regret taking this course so bad and I should’ve just took dentistry when I had the choice 3 years ago. This video really confirms everything I’m feeling :(
Me too. I wish I would have done dentistry. A specialized job where you can apply practical skills doesn't take too long either and you're still making good money as a graduate. I knew something was up when you had to study zygotes and ovums in 1 chapter, then language study in another chapter. It's so broad that it doesn't know what its trying to be. They should have let this degree focus on mostly the clinical side of things, set you up to become a dr, rather than finally introduce masters later on.
@@nostalgia9338 I totally forgot I wrote this 2 months ago, but I just wanted to tell you my feelings had changed. Yes I do regret not taking dentistry. But since I’m in this degree I should just aced it anyway right! I remember this is the field that I’m passionate about once and there’s a reason why I took this course in the first place, which is to help people suffering from mental illnesses. Now I’ve become more motivated and passionate than ever. Always remember that your interest can grow and never stop learning! Cause the more you learn about psychology the more invested you are in the field! If you are interested in clinical psychology, then make sure to make your own effort to study on your own and not waiting for your lecturers to teach you. I did this and it had really changed my mentality on this course! Good luck and I hope everything will go well for you!
@@TBS2ing You're right. I watched this video and I was honestly shaken. I knew this going into Psychology but this was the cold reminder making its rounds again. I'm doing psychology honestly for the intellectual gain whilst working at a dental practice. And trust me it's not all rainbows in the dental field either. It is a difficult job where you take the stress of being accountable for your patients. I love learning about psychology and although its broad, it's also a multilayered discipline that allows you to learn a lot about everything. This video is too negative in my eyes.
Disagree with quite a few points (and I also studied psych at Cambridge): 1. The theory you learn is not "wish-wash" but evidence-based. 2. Can't comment on the job market in the UK, but in Germany, e.g., there are virtually no unemplyed psychologists. 3. Psychology is a super flexible subject, so you can work in any field within society. Also, to become a counselor you don't have to get a clinical psych degree.
Since I want to actually become a Professional Licensed Clinical Psychologist in Germany but I’m not sure abt the degrees I should take and how it’s gonna be like in Germany
@@mindfulmotivated5145 oh wow okay ty so so so much actually. Btw I don’t mean to be a bother, but if becoming a clinical psychologist (or aka psychotherapist in Germany as u told) takes abt 10yrs to finish, then what all are the different courses n degrees u should take to become a clinical psychiatrist in Germany? Also when it comes to being a psychotherapist in Germany, would I be able to treat children too? Cuz I want to be able to treat everyone of all age grps, so for that should I be required to take child psychology too? Even now I’m kinda confused on whether to become a clinical psychologist or Clinical psychiatrist cuz I’m unsure whether or not I want to do medicine or not but yea that’s up to me
Very true! I also disagree with much of what is being said in the video, and in the comments. I’m in my second year of Uni and most of what we are learning at the moment is ‘evidence based’ theories. The flexibility within psychology and the different routes you can take is truly amazing! It is such a broad field. The skills and knowledge learnt within are highly sort out by many different employers, in many different fields. Research, be sure, and go for it! Especially if it’s your passion. Do not give up just because another person says it’s not for them.
Social work rec therapists etc too right? It’s important work. Patient advocates also go to heaven I’ve heard;) edit: also neuropsych, guidance counselor, special education, right now many many needed therapists in USA
Thanks for this video! Not a lot of aspiring psychology students realize just how demanding the field is and that this leaves little room for uncertainty. Whether you want to go into counseling/clinical/research psychology, you need to do your research and identify whether or not that field is something you would want to work hard to excel in. I am finishing my degree this year, and I am sweating bricks thinking about the amount of people I am going up against in the hopes to get into honours and masters! I love psychology and I work hard, so fingers crossed it works out! Best of wishes 🥰
I wish I saw your video before choosing my major. Sadly I kinda agree about this hurtful truth, but for those who already chose this major let's fight together , we'll make it through 💕💕
I think the perfect checklist for kids trying to decide on their majors is: #1 is this something I can relate to and passionately study #2 are there jobs available #3 how long will it take to get those jobs and is the journey worth it... however despite the difficulty and uncertainty of navigating through psychology, I love it and cannot imagine doing anything else.. thank you for sharing the nitty-gritty side!!
Psychology a good option if you don’t care about money at all. I wanna learn psychology cause I already do it in my free time so why not. Plus it’s great to know human psychology if you own a business out of psychology area.
All she says is so true. I would add for anyone out there who excels in math/statistics, your path to a faculty position in psychology is guaranteed b/c those skills are so desperately needed and appreciated. Specializing in statistics/research design is the fastest way to the head of the line, regardless if you are in the clinical area or not.
I just spent 3 years studying psychology at a Russel group uni. I absolutely love and adore the subject, even more now than when I applied for it. But you’re right. It is not easy to get a career in psychology, especially for a working class kid like me. Now I lowkey can’t help but feel like I wasted my degree at this impressive uni that kids where I’m from don’t get into, which took such hard work to get into and maintain. You could say I’m realising this late, but I’m glad I’m realising this now and not as a postgrad student. But also, it’s not all bad. I mean most undergraduate degrees are useless eg history or something. So the point is it gives you really important skills and attitudes for both work and personal life, like being pragmatic and open-minded. And it can still be (more) useful for specific types of careers too. For example, I think i might head into Human Resources as a career now.
Try applying as social worker, some of them will hire people with a degree in psychology and you can then take your msw which will get you more higher paying job as social worker or you can become a counselor which btw has a low job market but its there.
Having experience in both UK and US educations, I totally agree with this girl's opinion. I personally know some brilliant psychology students (They really know their stuffs). They went into different fields that are not relating to their degrees upon graduation. If you have a "safety net" (like having plan B or C when plan A fails), there's nothing wrong in chasing your passion in degree. I think the problem is the lack of advisors that help students decide their degrees early because everyone chases grades and always worries about passing or failing in school. That's my opinion. I wish there's someone who could advise me in my choices in education when I was young as I'm the first person in my family to be born with a disability and pursue graduate and doctorate degrees in US university.
This is such a truly awakening video! Thank you, Aika! I am currently doing my 2nd year undergrad in psychology in Hungary (not even close to UK) and it is the same here, teachers are way too chill and while there are a lot of talented ones, most of the profs just don't care about the subject they are talking about. I will still proceed with my degree and try to be more specific on what do I want to do with that degree and what to study further. Thank you again!
I love this. Thank you for being so honest and candid about this topic, you're helping a lot of people and it's commendable cause not a lot of people say it like it is.
Hey i am currently in my final year of my psychology degree and will start my Master in clinical and cognitive neuroscience this august ! I did my bachelor in the uk and now my masters in the Netherlands ! I was quiet shocked when I watched your videos because you have come such a long way and i am pretty sure you worked very hard to be where you are now - and then to present psychology in such a bad light really surprised me ! I aim to be a clinical psychologist and I have been told so many times how difficult and competitive it is but what degree isn’t? I think only with economics or medicine or teaching you might have a safe job afterwards but with most other degree - history, biology, physics, any language - you have to be passionate and hard working ! And i agree that an undergraduate degree in the uk is very broad - however you said you have to come into it with a clear idea of what you want to do later however I myself came into the degree simply because i couldn’t imagine doing anything else ! And only thanks to the broad education i realised which areas i liked and didn’t like ! You also never mentioned that normally you get paid during your phd which is why one can reduce the amount of education it would take and i guess on top of that i also wanted to mention that i personally love education and believe that i will work my entire life so i might as well stick with education for as long as i can ! I think it was a very interesting video and hopefully didn’t make you feel attacked - but i just wanted that people who are considering going into a psychology career to not give up on their dreams simply because of all the negative sides you mentioned ! Every degree has their downfalls and at the end of the day only you yourself can determine what makes you happy and what you want to achieve in life
hey could i please know which university did you study in UK and Netherland...Im doing my first year in a UK based university (Middlesex) and would love to do masters in netherland
I don't really comment often but from the bottom of my heart thanks for this video, everyone sugar coats the disadvantages but this sort of reality check makes you more cautious about the decision you'll make, the decision that will probably define the rest of your life. I needed this.
I'm 40 yo and if I were to talk to my younger self I'd say hey guess what, you need to really work out on yourself and do what you want before considering any degree. Most of my personal interests and professional objectives I discovered later in life but in my early 20s I was so anxious about succeeding and making the right decision for what to study that I rushed due to pressure. Pressure to have a university degree before being 22yo. I could regret my decision but I've learned to accept it. But if I reach to one young person that may be dubious about what to study or going in debt to have a degree where you will be earning close to minimum wage. I'd say don't do it. Go work. Don't be hard on yourself. I promise that you will figure it out. Some of us bloom later and that's OK.
@@gustavohelmer6564 Yes!!! Therapy is so important. I recently discovered that I have huge abandonment issues with my relationship with my parents. Meanwhile I was trying to please them and getting into unhealthy relationships that I myself framed and I'm responsible for. Therapy is so important especially CBT because it's focused on what are our coping mechanisms for survival. Also patience. I wish you meaning and purpose in your personal and professional life.
This is a very intresting phenomenon. As a psychology bachelor student and danish citizen, i can definently say, that the situation in Denmark is much different. Getting a psychology masters degree in Denmark is HUGE. There are so many jobs that only psychologist are allowed to take especially in Copenhagen, Aarhus and Odense. Also approximately 85% of psychologists and psychology students in Denmark are female, which means that its very hard for females to get a job, but if you are a man, you can get a job in the blink of an eye. Btw. i dont know how the situation is in England, but you could also consider creating your own business - i know tons of people who do that here in Denmark, who earn alot of money. Also making yourself "different", by having certain interests or skills can create opportunities for you, that many "normal" psychologist cant have. An example could be meditation, spirituality, having experienced spiritual awakening, having experienced addiction etc. etc. You can then marked yourself specifically for a certain group of clients. I mean there are so many posibilities. Its always different and more unsecure if you want to work for somebody. Also, having a strong network, can help you out. Especially if you work for yourself. Good video. I think if you work in other countries than England it is different, so getting a psychology degree from Oxford, could be good. You just have to be flexible. What are your thoughts on the flexibility aspect? :-)
In a private practice you could also make money from writing books, doing public talks, offering online therapy for people who are not in your city, specialize in certain dissorders, or issues (like having been raped) or in helping people achieve (niece) goals etc.
It's easier in Sweden as well. At least if you are accepted to the psychologist programme. You study for 5 years, do one year of internship, and then you get your licence and are pretty much guaranteed a job. I suppose it could be because we get a lot of training, so our education isn't as theoretical as it seems to be in the UK. Also, it's really hard to get in to begin with, so there aren't that many psychologists. It's probably harder if you just get a master in psychology here though, rather than become a psychologist. But even those aren't very common I think.
Exact same situation here in Germany! It´s really hard to get into the psychology programme because your alevels has to be really really good. But once you are in the programme you have do do your Bachelors and masters and the job situation is really really good here aswell! There are so many jobs that only psychologists are allowed to do here in germany too :-)
@@marial9453 keep in mind, if you wanna work as a clinical psychologist in Germany you have to pay for the training yourself and it is very expensive. You'll also be required to work as a therapist in training with very low pay and it does take at least 3 years. There has been a specialised clinical psychology program introduced that focusses on clinical psychology and training in psychotherapy methods from the get go, but I honestly don't know what to make of that.
I want to thank You for making this video, you cleared the fog for me really well, because I had the feeling that I need a degree that will specialise my knowledge of this broad subject and will give me direction. But it wont, i have to find my niche and have to focus on that and try to be the best at it, instead of being just a generalist. Great Job!!! Much Love for You!!
I used to be psych student (did 1 year) and unironically, I found Statistics to be the most fascinating part of it. I'm studying math now(: and even though it is quite hard, it's already so so much rewarding and I am so glad away from dropping the psych. My take is run away before it's too lateツ
It's the same for me! I'm studying psychology at the moment and the only thing that's not absolutely dreadful and boring to me is statistics and research. I loveeeee data analysis. I was never really good at math but I'm really good in statistics. Right now I'm just really struggling on what to do next and if I should stop with psychology
I'm 15 and I want to learn about psychology in all its forms to understand more people, human beings and how this world works because I feel incredible greed for such knowledge. For me money is not necessarily the problem but i am divided between time and passion. I'm kind of sad now as for "Time does not wait for any man and is a resource one can never get back." i...will just keep that in mind. Thank you for your video >:
I think Psychology is definitely a passion pursuit. I love it. I'm not bothered about the money. I'm passionate about understanding the human mind, and behavior, and how we can use what we discover to help people.
Here is a point of view from the other end of the spectrum. I did a vocational degree, more years ago than I care to dwell on. I have done post grads and masters since, but that’s entirely caused by an academic inferiority complex. To the heart of the point; I did my vocational degree which was quite employable, and therefore fulfilled its employability purpose. It also provided me with a job that never really once made me feel academically challenged, or fulfilled. There’s a tremendous upside in being employed, but there is also the imponderable of the path never trodden.
Now I'm in highschool and I'm into biology and psychology, so I decided that I wanna be a major in neuropsychology. Now I'm really scared... I really like studying about those thigs but I'd rather not worry about money in the future. I love traveling, good quality food and equestrian. I don't wanna make wrong decision.
I’m a recent psychology graduate from the US, and I relate to all of your points. A lot of my friends chose psychology because they were in their second or third year in University and had no idea what they wanted to do. Like you said, some people choose psychology “just cuz.” I’d be interested to see the psychology degree become more transparent and offer more advice early on about career goals. Thanks for the video! I enjoyed hearing your perspective.
What blows my mind is that if college kids learned research and critical thinking skills (highly doubt it based on all the comments), why do you not apply it to the job search? It’s pretty easy to use the internet to discover career paths. Literally look on UA-cam while you’re at it and quit blaming the system.
What blows my mind is that if college kids learned research and critical thinking skills (highly doubt it based on all the comments), why do you not apply it to the job search? It’s pretty easy to use the internet to discover career paths. Literally look on UA-cam while you’re at it and quit blaming the system.
What blows my mind is that if college kids learned research and critical thinking skills (highly doubt it based on all the comments), why do you not apply it to the job search? It’s pretty easy to use the internet to discover career paths. Literally look on UA-cam while you’re at it instead of blaming the system.
As someone who has just finished a psychology degree, I will say that it is superb for people who are undecided. Data handling, statistics, report creation, and critical thinking are all skills which I found were greatly developed by my degree. I started with a decision between marketing and organisational psychology as a post-grad degree (at least that was my plan for my first 2 years). In my final year I decided I was more interested in the finance world, and have started to study for courses such as the CFA and other finance related courses (and lots of reading around the area too!). I haven't secured anything out of the 5 applications I have done so far, but I have made it to the final round twice already. So my advice for people who want to do it - what theoxfordpsych is saying is pretty true, but don't underestimate what applying what you learn and putting in some work to develop skills and experience external to the field of psychology can get you. I am ever grateful I took psychology as my major, and don't for a second think I would have been that much better off if I had just stuck myself in economics or something!! - I definitely wouldn't have enjoyed it as much. My only add on is that statistics can be an absolute pain in the ass, so definitely know that statistics will be a HUGE part of your undergrad degree (and beyond).
You’re talking to entitled privileged college kids who don’t know anything about sales and marketing. resourcefulness is guaranteed to get applied work experience. As a non psych major I am so confused as to how my psychotherapists have made bank while all these kids make excuses for their lack of success. It’s called IT IS A BUSINESS. Can you run a biz? Then you’ll do great. If you expect to be handed a decent paid career on a silver platter go into STEM or get grinding
Psychology is one of the most sought after degrees in Slovenia, because actually getting into uni is VERY difficult, so very little people graduate per year.
Thank you for this video, I've read a lot of these things but it definitely hits differently to hear it in video. I'm currently starting my 4th semester of university studying psychology, I'm desperately trying to find other degrees I can switch to but it's getting late for me. I'm a bit heartbroken because I love the subject, but the truth hurts and my fears just keep getting confirmed. I hope to switch towards education or nursing, but my university doesn't even offer nursing and that in particular is a nice calling. I'll figure something out but I feel like I dug myself into a hole with my studies so far, especially at my school where the only real paths are engineering (dislike), biology for pre-med (high risk of failing), and psychology....
omg this video helped me so much ! I’m 43 and was considering going back to Uni and study Psychology … I was not aware it takes so long to become Clinical Psychologist . I would be 50 and in lots of debt… NO Thank you !! maybe next life I’ll be wiser and start journey with Psychology in my 20-ties . Thank you Aika 💕
Hey you still can achieve and study psychology even if it's another way or not the clinical one, don't give up 🥰 you will spend money and time anyways so why not with studying something you like
What!! Dont give up so easily I know many people who study later in life ,in fact I believe that ur best years are 30+ . You say that it will take a long time to become a psycologist ,but it is about the journey,if you like it wont studying for 10 years be enjoyable ? I know I want to study for as long as I can ,please do not talk as if your life is over ,THIS IS YOUR ONE LIFE ,please ,if not for yourself do it for me
@@ewaberchulska omg, you could have not post this comment in the better time ! I was literally researching my options to do Psychology Conversion course at Uni as I am still debating in my head whether I should go for it or not .... I was about to talk myself out of it again and then I red your message .... Thank you 😘 your message is like a sign from universe !! that I am on the right path and should at least try .
Hey! Did you go on to do your conversion course? I am 44 and started my conversion masters this year in the UK. It is tough but I am pushing on. Adult education is hard but I am really passionate about mental health and so I keep going. Like you, I thought I was too old to start this journey and would be 50+ before I can become a counselling psychologist but I have good friends encoouraging me to go on with it.
@@lindasawyerr6655 hey Linda .. wow Congratulations 🎉 It’s amazing you started the course . I ve decided not to study Psychology unfortunately… for various reasons .. mainly cost and time . I would be 50 by the time I fully graduate as qualified Psychologist. I started Digital Marketing instead and getting knowledge in “digital world “ Really love it … I want to work remotely and be a bit more tech savvy 😁 .. Surprisingly Digital Marketing and Psychology have some things in common . 😉 Good Luck with your Course … 🍀
I guess it wasn't a good idea to be severely depressed and also do a psychology degree because now I've graduated with no experience lolol. I really did appreciate this video though since it clearly explained why its been so hard to get anywhere in my career. I still love the field but man am I lost.
@@diya8869 I'm thinking of going for a masters in counselling. So for example it would be MSc Counselling and Psychotherapy. Looking for courses accredited by BACP since I can get a license as opposed to psychologist degrees (Counselling psychology) accredited by the BPS which will let me get a license after a Phd or a PsyD. I made that comment when I was really struggling to figure something out. Now I have some hold but its all still confusing. Got any info that I might be missing?
I think it's really important that people understand this applies to any degree that doesn't walk you into an understaffed mandatory study industry (doctor, engineer, lawyer, accountant etc). I know peers that have had this problem and studied maths. Yes, maths is like a super power hard skill but if you don't know where you want to go with it, you can make it meaningless and unfulfilling. The hard truth to psychology is that it's underfunded in public sectors and not particularly profitable in private ones. However, its broadness is it's strength as long as you have clear personal/professional goals. I don't like the sentiment to this video, but it is undeniable you pose many hard questions we should all be asking ourselves in our careers and studies, regardless of the major.
YES! I 100% agree with everything you said. In 2nd year of my undergrad psychology, my stats lecturer made a joke about how she remembered being our age and thinking that she could finish her undergrad and go straight into a psychology role... This was the first time I realised that I either wouldn't be a psychologist or I would have to continue studying and training for too many years. I'm currently studying for a master's in Forensic Psy and thinking of my future career goals, there is still so much uncertainty. Tips are to volunteer alongside your study and actually find what you are truly passionate about, trust me you will learn more from volunteering than your whole undergrad degree in Psychology.
hello there, Darcy! i saw your comment just now and i don’t know if you’ll still see this.. but i just wanted to say that right now i’m in my second year of psychology and i’m truly struggling mentally. it’s so difficult and stressful to think of whether or not i should stay in this field…. other than volunteering and figuring out what one is passionate about, what else could i do?
This video honestly just solidified my decision even more... A lot of people have been questioning the fact that I wanna be a psychologist and it hasn't deterred me yet... This video also stated things that I'm already prepared to go through, so psychology it is!
I think another route if you’re in the UK and are doing psychology because you want to do therapy or work in mental health, then to get a core profession (eg social worker, nurse- there’s a whole list on things like the BABCP website of what would count) and to look at going though the IAPT route. You can apply for a psychological well-being practitioner training role (PWP) and then apply to high intensity training/ recruit to train roles. Then you can work toward accreditation with the BABCP and becoming a CBT therapist There’s lots of routes into working in mental health that I think people who are considering psychology don’t really know about. I did an undergraduate in psychology, then did a support worker role in a local CAMHS team and was able to go on to get a recruit to train role as a high intensity IAPT trainee. I didn’t have a core profession so will have to do a KSA portfolio. My point is there’s different routes so it’s a good one to consider if you specifically want to work within mental health in the NHS.
@@gemmadouthwaite9156 picked social work for this reason - applying for IAPT and conversion psychology master's in my third year, with the aim to apply for the psychology doctorate within 10 years. I couldn't do psychology because I am an estranged student, and don't have the option to go back home once I graduate - I really need a job and it's so good knowing I have something to fall back on
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2:327:20 It comes off as if you don't really understand what the disciplines of psychology is about as a scientific subject and where those theories are heading. Perhaps not so surprising considering that you're in an applied psychology as opposed to scientific psychology, and you don't really understand why, say, cognitive psychologists study what they study and what end goal they've got in mind. It's a totally fair, also blatantly obvious point that it's unemployable and ok, this is a video about that, but you should've at least, as somewhat of an authority figure who addresses herself a "psychology veteran" for your many, whom I suppose are, young, naive, gullible viewers, explained even briefly what psychology is as an actual scientific discipline and why it's not as unemployable as other hard-sciences or skill-oriented subjects -- but I prematurely assume you know answers to these questions. Do you ever communicate with people in real scientific psychology disciplines, like cognitive psychology? If psychology, as an undergrad major, is attracting a lot of kids who think they're going to become the next sherlock holmes or those who just wants to get through college with an easy major, it's because psychology isn't getting the right PR, not because psychology as a discipline is wishy-washy, which is the impression you certainly give off to these viewers. If anything, this video contributes to that negative stereotype, and it's not doing much favor for the field that now needs more than ever to attract bright young minds. I suggest that you take a step out of your bubble and and take some time to understand the history of and the current trends of psychology so that you don't embarrass scientific psychologists -- an attempt to understand the human mind and all of its parts and mechanisms in all of it's complexity is the single greatest line of inquiry that traces back to some of the most profound thinkers and philosophers humanity has known. People often allude to physicists as the pinnacle of the scientific mind, but in many ways, the ultimate goal of psychology subsumes even physics since, if physics is the study of the fundamental properties of physical reality, psychology is the study of the fundamental properties of the mind that perceives and interprets that physical reality, which has the potential to turn physics on its head -- e.g. observer's effect in physics ultimately has to include some sort of explanation of the visual system and the cognitive process that extracts meaning out of it. Ofc, the metaphysical argument can be made the other way around also, but psychology is uniquely profound in that it really is the only one true discipline that stands evenly, shoulder to shoulder with physics in pursuit of the centuries-old mind-body problem. That said, those are the ideals, and the currently fragmented theories of psychology, spanning from cognitive to social, still have much work to do to systemize, formalize, and unify all of its views of the human mind before it can rival the rigors of physics. But the good news you never even hint at is that it's actually making headway towards that direction. And see, even from its birth in 19th century, psychology never started out as a wishy-washy discipline. It was born out of mostly physics and biology trained thinkers like Wundt and Helmholtz who was passionate about reducing the mind to physical processes, which later inspired the wave of behaviorists who really tried to ground the mind on the basis of simple models of testable/observable behavioral/biological S-R learning processes. If not for the functionalist/cognitive revolution that redirected the psyc funding to cognitivist box-and-arrow modelers, behaviorists most likely would've remained as the mainstream "psychologists" to the public. But it's at this point that psychology, severed from its rigorous, experiment-driven biological sibling disciplines, opened doors to many theories not very well grounded in data, which gave psychology the bad name that it has today. But since the 80s, with better brain imaging techniques and particularly very recently with machine learning methods that can be used to model human learning processes, aka connectionism, psychology is starting to find it's long-lost roots in biology again. That's why you'll see, in many leading institutions, psychologists collaborating with neuroscientists and computer scientists is becoming more and more common, as with disciplines like computational neuroscience/cognitive science at places like MIT, Stanford, and Berkeley, where psychologists bring unique and invaluable experimental behavioral data (and interesting cognitive theories about them) that serve as important constraints to the models. So, we live in the most exciting times in the history of psychology where the unifying theory of the mind-brain could be sitting just beyond the horizon. Did it ever occur to you that, maybe, your young viewers who wish to learn about psychology deserves a chance to be exposed to such central cutting edge frontier effort that may give them a better idea about what psychology is truly about and the direction its heading? unless you had no clue that these stuff was going on, in which case, I urge you to readdress yourself as "clinical psychology veteran".
You are accurate about the true nature of this degree and it could be a blessing for many people but it's so easy for you and your flatmates to sit there comfortably and fire some home truths while you all have a promising career in psychology ahead of you and leave everyone else that is serious, full of doubt and almost deter them. There are some truths that need to be exposed but you take on a very negative view. It seems you went in for the wrong reasons.
"Come on - people now.... smile on your brother - everybody get together.... try to love one another right now!" Peace Efe.... I just stopped by to say hey, and to sing you a tune....lol.
@@simply_nebulous i’m a 10th grade student and i’m also deciding between art and psych at uni. it was art, then psych until this video, now i don’t know
In the U.S, it is predicted that jobs in mental health, social work and integrative health care which includes counselors, will increase 30% and by 2029, something like 40%. There is a increase in evolution that is driving humans to learn about the mind. This is an amazing time to learn neuropsychological language, chemistry, psychology, therapy, mental health, etc. I work with adults with Autism, read the literature and have a B.S in clinical psychology. I’m currently in a masters program in Colorado and when I graduate, with my licensure, I can expect above average median salary.It is over saturated, let’s be real, but so is education in general. Lol. And out of those 100,000 students, how many many will drop out? How many will “finish later”? How many don’t attend graduate school? How many had less than satisfactory GPA, resume building skill sets? I believe for the people who want it enough, psych and counseling will be just as obtainable as becoming a nurse, or a school teacher. A lot of people need help, and our current system is burned out. More funding is coming our way.
@@edenhaile4343 Go for it! There is a huge need for professionals. It will get tough and you can’t do it for the check! But let me tell you, it’s extremely rewarding and you’ll make peoples lives better. Maybe even save a life? To me, that’s more than money.
I’m from Denver. I could not believe how dismal everyone was in these comments. All one has to do is apply those purported research skills to the worldwide internet and market yourself well. Client based work is up to YOU. My psychotherapist is killing it offering weekend intensives and 150 hourly working flex hours (she starts at 11 am) and now zoom has changed the game! As a sales rep/marketer I see this field as a huge advantage in the current and future market.
To those girls and guys saying they want to study psychology because they're very interested in serial killers and criminology... ...maybe the degree for you is criminology
@@skye5074 i wanna be a forensic psychologist when I'm older. I'm only 15 but I just know I would love it. Do you think I could make it in that field???? I really don't think I'm ready to give up my dreams because of this video... but idk. Im so so sad
Thank you for this video! I’m 28M with a master’a degree in law who has put 8 years into developing an acting career that unfortunately hasn’t become stable enough to provide for me and my growing family. As I am looking to change my career path to something I both have natural predisposition to and can make good money on I can see how psychology can be just not my cup of tea (so thanks for spilling it!). While I have always been passionate about psychology (since I have been exposed to it as early as the age of 7-8 onwards), I’m afraid this passions might burn out too quickly if I won’t be able to provide for the growing needs of my family. Also, having a legal master’s degree, I am considering of getting another degree in counseling/mediation (because ultimately I want a work that is connected with helping other people). TL;DR thank you, that has been very helpful and will definitely help me in making the right choice. Best of luck to you!
You saved me bruh, literally. Thanks, I'm restarting my first year, would've been left with that psychology had I not bumped into you, You're a blessing, dog. Thanks
Honestly, if I’d known more about psychology as a degree, I wouldn’t have done it. I absolutely loved it at A level, and thought it was so interesting and I was passionate about it. However, at degree level, I don’t find it interesting at all. We just do the same topics again and again, we don’t delve into the interesting things, it feels like we’re just doing surface level, boring stuff, and I’m in my third year of it now. I’m not even going to have a career in it - I already know I’m going to go into journalism (which I have worked to get plenty of experience in from my uni’s student magazine). Part of me simply can’t regret doing psychology, because I chose what I was passionate about at the time. I just wish the degree was half as interesting as the A level was. You hit the nail on the head when you said that we do a bit of everything, but we aren’t actually good at anything. That’s so true, and it’s sad. I wish I was still passionate about it, but I’m just not. At this point I’m only doing it so I can say ‘I’ve got a degree’.
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Oh my! I was only halfway through the video and it already answered tons of my problems. I believed that I will make the decision more seriously since I have always been wanted to study Psychology. Hope UA-cam got more videos like that.
Appreciate the realism, about to go into 2nd year social work, thinking of changing to psychology, become a clinical psychologist in Australia. Long journey, in my late 20's already. food for thought :)
In Canada, an undergrad is 4 years, Master’s are usually 2 years (and potentially a year of clinical placement) and a PhD can be anywhere from 4-7 years. I can’t believe you squeeze your bachelors and masters down!! (But am VERY jealous!!!) in Canada at least, applying for clinical psych is as competitive as applying to med school. People often go out of country and pay a ton as international students!
Yeah in my small uni, there’s only 5 places for the clinical psychology Ph.D and 5 places for the neuropsychology Ph.D so I know imma have to make myself stand out to get a chance
@@ari8417 but at least you know beforehand & have the opportunity to work hard for it if it’s your wish. It ended up not being mine... Best of luck to you X
@aena I'm not as confident in answering that because I don't have experience with IT-related jobs. From my observation, though, there are more opportunities in larger cities (naturally) that can pay a nice salary for IT-jobs. And I think you'd also need to consider the specific job, because again I can't really attest to the market for it. So some people can get good jobs with 2 year diplomas, but the problem is Canada has the most recipients of bachelor degrees per capita in the world. So sometimes diplomas are not seen as substantial enough - a lot of people go on to get their Master's... and whether or not it's needed, it gives people a competitive edge. Sorry I can't be of more help.... but I'd say 1) search up some jobs you're thinking of online in a certain city just to see salary and opportunity and 2) consider the cost of living. Idk where you're coming from, but Canada is expensive to live in, so you'll need to make sure you can provide for yourself. The market is tough right now, finding jobs in general is not easy :(
An undergrad takes always only 3 years in Europe, no matter in which field. When it comes to the master, it depends a lot. I would say the UK is an exception with 1-years masters to make them more attractive for international students (re visa etc). It‘s usually 2 years in countries like France, the Netherlands, Germany or Italy. And PhD depends a lot, would say 2-7 years.
I was considering switching my major to psychology because its like the only subject I am interested in learning about but this video pretty much made me feel like you know what maybe I should be an entrepreneur or something, good video though.
@@thommysides4616 u can not aim to be a psychologist if a random person on internet is able to influence your career goals. Don’t do it because your parents want you to, don’t do it without doing your research on the subject and dwelling it into a bit, then only u ll realise wether u are genuinely interested in the subject or doing for the sake of it, everyone is different so make your decision wisely after evaluating all pros and cons, just do not jump to conclusion like that
This was my first video I have watched of your content. It’s been disheartening to hear your views are unfavourable of your profession and the psychology world. However I respect your honesty and light you share on the realities of studying and working as a psychologist 🌟
If anything this video has reaffirmed my choice to study Psychology, just means I need to work that much harder. The odds have been stacked against me my entire life so I’m used to it, of course it’s not easy, nothing worth doing ever is.
@@ryanmaka9471 Well you are subscribed to his channel and this is where a lot of psychology students get the inspiration from. Jordan Peterson's psychology is different from text book psychology.
@@nostalgia9338 Maybe I just enjoy his content? I’m well aware of this, thanks for the concern though. Personally I think it’s quite weird that you go around creeping through peoples social media and giving your unwanted opinions, maybe find a hobby.
The whole time I was listening to your breakdown of the downsides of psych degrees, I mentally substituted "music" whenever you said "psych", and "gigging" when you said "internships". A lot of the same issues apply to being hirable in music fields, especially the need to be gigging as much as possible the whole time you're studying, so as not to just be a "book expert", which sadly the school environment encourages. It's not crass to think of potential earnings, especially since the education cost a lot of future money when there are huge loans involved. (Shout-out to U.S.A. edu system) I enjoyed hearing your take on the psych field.
Lol. I nearly spit out my salad when you said "The sadness doesn't end here." My mentor once told me that most people who get degrees in psychology, sociology, fashion design, women studies, ect are often trying to avoid math. I don't know if that's true but it kinda make sense.
I was expecting a video about grinding statistical methods, exam hardness and workload. Instead, this video seems to be geared towards steering students away from psychology, so there will be more career options for existing graduates. Don't let the video demotivate you from pursuing your goals. Just be prepared to go the full hog, and stick with it through to a PhD. If you are prepped to do that, then great! What are the alternatives?
yes this video isint the best ,I struggle with a lot fo self doubt ,I know that I love helping people I love to see how the brain works ,understand it ,I love it and I cant imagine doing anything else ,yet watching this video scared me out of it ,but at this point idc ,I'll suffer thru it if I get to do what I love
Don’t let this video put you off something you love! If it makes you happy and your passionate about it, do your thing, work hard and just have faith it will work out. Psych may be competitive but comparing yourself to others and worrying about the future doesn’t add any value to your life or get you anywhere. When I first watched this I wish there was a comment that said, that for some it does work out, and you could be that person. Also acknowledging that she may not be from the same country you’re from is important as it could be an entirely different scenario where you are.
Thank you so much for the transparency of your words and the true struggles someone going into psychology might face. It really brought so much clarity for me and what I should do, as far as career wise. I thumbs uped and subscribed :)
I personally dropped out of college so didn't get debt but this is depressing to see people wasting years of their life on useless degrees, especially here in the states.
Thank you so much for sharing, I've gained a lot of insight. I will graduate from high school this May and have always been interested in psychology, yet don't exactly know what I plan to do with that education.
You're willing to tell the patient (colleagues in this case) the brutal truth (need, not want to hear), in a direct, well formed, and friendly manner. I'm thinking you'll going to be a terrific psychologist, saving lives!
This was very well done. Thank you so much for making this informational video! I just recently graduated with a Psychology BA, and I feel like you've explained so many thoughts I've had about this degree. I'm not sure if I regret going for this degree, but I think I've changed in such a way that I feel ready to aim for a career that isn't quite related to psychology. It makes me feel like I'm at square one, but its okay I guess
Hi, thanks for sharing your thoughts and experiences. I think (for me) you explained things really well, I thought your example of “I want to study serial killers” was excellent as well as your use of statistics re the numbers currently stuffing, bottle necks etc. Just excellent, thanks. Having realistic expectations is so important, and learning about the experiences of other people is just so beneficial.
In the UK I would strongly recommend considering doing an undergraduate degree in a different mental health profession (Occupational Therapy, Social Work or Mental Health Nursing), good employability and better pay on graduation! There are also now lots of very good conversation masters (1-2 years) in psychology if you later decide its something you want to go back to!!
Hi, l must admit that l couldn’t be more agree on the psychology degree topic. I am 25 and have a bachelor’s of art in psychology. I appreciate your honesty and clearance on the topic. I am also a bit glad that l share similar concerns and problems with a Cambridge graduate, l hope l will not be misunderstood because l have gone through similar circumstances and wish u best. I live in a second world country and l graduated from a second-world class university and l felt exactly what u felt and l agree on transferable skills, specialising, wages, employment rate and all. I wish someone has told me those before l got into university but some lessons learn in the hard and painful way. Thanks for this video and all of your efforts.
Thank You for this info. As it seems psychology is perhaps a discipline worth of pursuing when one is established him or herself financially..to do it without nervous breakdowns and without future prospects, just for the passion and intellectual gain of it. 🙏
Very honest video. I am a psychology graduate from a top uni, achieved good grades throughout education and a wealth of experience yet I have received so much rejection. 4 years following my undergraduate degree, I have not been selected for these competitive roles : post graduate diplomas and masters. It’s so frustrating. I’m giving it up and going into finances. I’m 25 years old and I am not spending the next ten years of life competing for places on courses or jobs, wasting my precious time and having rejection emails cut away at my confidence and perceived competence as an aspiring psychologist. I’ll explore something else. I’m so sad. Psychology was my first love but now, I’m heart broken. It let me down
You're not alone. I think it's more important to understand this now, before investing any more time into a MS program for psychology. Many of my peers have done this, and I have my doubt that it will ever pay off for them. I had absolutely zero work for one year after graduation, but thankfully things began to improve with time. Once you secure one job, you can use that to help you move forward.
@@warrenf5821 I agree. It best that I have come to this realisation sooner than later. I just didn't realise how competitive this field was e.g. acceptance rates for the clinical doctorate are as low as 15%. :( Do you or anyone have any ideas of fields where my qualification in psychology (and experiences) will be useful? Anything except marketing? I just want to thoroughly explore my options before settling with finance. I have had experiences as a mental health recovery worker, clinical support work, volunteer at community-based MH recovery services, anxiety peer support facilitator and a research assistant. Also, I wanted to ask whether you stayed in the field of psychology or ventured into another sector and if so, which one? Thanks for replying once again, I have been so low and feel like I am going back to the drawing board to reconsider my career path/goals and restrategize.
@@sholly185 there is no need to feel down. I understand the feeling, but I think it’s important to remember that a degree in psychology is extremely universal. There are important pluses and minuses to having a universal degree. While it certainly can be difficult to find a specific job when you’re fresh out of university, you can apply this degree in many ways. I personally ended up finding work in the technology industry, where they appreciated my background in statistics, the scientific method, and basic knowledge of human behavior. Specifically, I ended working with data sets and looking for trends in consumer behavior. There’s a lot of companies out there who appreciate the insight that psychology graduates can bring. I think the biggest mistake someone can make is locking yourself into opportunities that are psychology specific. I spent a lot of time after graduating from university looking through job postings, narrowing myself to jobs that were psychological in nature. These jobs are not very plentiful, they don’t pay that great, and I don’t think that they would be very fulfilling. I would recommend looking into companies near you that you might be interested in working for. You can even go a step further and look into government roles as well. It’s not a terrible idea to look into graduate opportunities, but like you said, the acceptance rate can be low. Don’t let that discourage you. Apply anyway, and keep doing it if you really want to do it. But remember, you can also look into other graduate programs with a psychology degree. Here in the states, a lot of people get a masters degree in social work, and they can more easily put that degree to good use after they finish with school. Hope that helps!
As someone who is a final year psych student I would advise you to do as much research and read as much as possible on what it takes to become a psychologist/an active member in the field of psychology. Getting an idea of what it expected of you not only during your undergraduate studies, but also what will be expected of you on a postgraduate basis, will help you identify whether it is something you would want to take on as a career. It is a suuuuper demanding field, but also rewarding in its own way. Hope this helps, and good luck with your studies going forward☺️⭐️
I'm so discouraged after this, but it was a necessary video so thank you - I've been working in the corporate sector for 10 years now, and finally feeling brave enough to go for a career change to do what I've always wanted to do (Psych); now I'm not sure anymore. I guess I've felt an affinity for it having experienced severe depression in the past, and wanting to get the chance to work closely with people who might be going through the same thing. Corporate sector pays well, but for all the competition and hours you go through, it robs you of life or any enjoyment!
Don’t do psychology because you feel you have “common ground” with the subject. That’s pretty much every psychology student. And this is why it’s become a joke, too much over saturation from students who “want to be like Jordan Peterson”, thought “Shutter Island” was badass movie. If you want to work in mental health, follow specific mental health subjects, down go down the route of psychology where you will cover “parts of the eye” first before even touching mental health.
I agree with alot of what you said in this video with the exception of pay for a clinical psychologist. I'm doing my psych doctorate in ireland atm and the starting salary for most graduates is ~60k
I'm starting freshman this year in BS in Psychology. What you have said shocked me and break my hearts. I'm just an average student, I'm not smart, not-so hard working and lazy. It scares me to look into my future in Psychology, will I ever be alright? Can I do this? Those thoughts are keep on popping inside my head. Your thoughts and other comments discourage me and give me a second thought about continuing but the thing is I can't go back from my decision. I don't want to turn back from word and I like Psychology even tho I don't know it yet and it's a hard course. But thank you for this video, I will gather all my will, focus and work hard. I'll take your advice about being active for internship and more. Hope you'll a good day 💖💖
"You're just as confused as you are going in as you're going out". It is so relatable! I have graduated recently in Computer Science. A lot of my peers and I feels the same as well!
The world isn't built for psychology. But psychology is built for the world.
Love this! It definitely is and needs to be more readily applied
@@TheOxfordPsych aw glad u liked it! After your video, I realized my enthusiasm for a writer (& musician) is probably more wisely placed. Then your reply doubled my affirmation!🤣
I've heard it's a grueling process and the more fun Jungian/depth psychology stuff I'm personally drawn to isn't really much a part of the academic world. Was analytical psychology touched on much at all in your 9 yrs?
Joshua Stephen Ward not at all - I think I’ve gotten one afternoon lecture once about it. It’s something I really want to be better informed about. I’m going to venture into Man and his Symbols.
@@TheOxfordPsych MAHS is very cool book. Personally, his memoirs Memories Dreams and Reflections & his work The Undiscovered Self have been life-changing books for me. I think they are better reads imo & better intros to Jung although MAHS may be better as a practicing clinician. Everyone is different though and it is material that you will probably have a really unique appreciation for with your background.
MDR is a wild but gorgeous biography. Very original take on a bio that really altered how I saw my own life.
All three of these books are mostly on UA-cam btw. I've listened to TUS probably a hundred times. I have even gone to sleep with it on & strangely found it influencing my writing.
The one that has the black and white photo with the title in yellow blue and pink rectangles has a helpful glossary of Jungian psychological terms defined by Jung himself.pretty cool.
I'm such a nerdy Jung fanboy 🤣
Joshua Stephen Ward thank you so much for your recommendations!! Will definitely start on those, MAHS looks very complicated for a novice!! 😅
“There are no jobs anyway so you might as well study something you are passionate about.” I can’t remember who said this or where I read it but it’s painfully true.
yeah idk about that i landed a 100k job after graduating from electrical engineering in 2020 so xD
@@yt_nh9347 my country is with the economy in a complete state of colapse, so engineers are even a national meme here for being the jobless of all the jobs.
@@yt_nh9347 what country?
That's misleading, I'm studying social work and my course along with mental health nursing has over 90% employment rate at virtually every University in the UK. Just some food for thought
@@cassie4705 ironically that number itself is misleading. Being employed doesn’t mean anything. Employed where? What pay? What field? I think she was referring to good paying jobs within the field of psychology, which is hard to come by. The field (for undergrads) is saturated and due to that fact you will be lucky to find a job in your field at all, regardless of pay
The current stats are about ~65% of psychology undergrads will find work in their field (vs like 85-90% of graduates in psychology and like 80% of engineering undergrads) so it is pretty difficult overall. I would also say mental health nursing is probably a better field than psychology generally speaking
Still a potential worthwhile major, but people should consider graduate school if they want to have both good/better pay and job security, depending on what you actually want to do within the field of course
Thats what Uni does to people, they make you feel like no matter how hard you try, there is always something better, more expert, higher.... I am a lawyer, quit my job and I decided to work as a cleaner, a snowboard instructor, diver, mountain guide, etc. I realized that if you live life competing in a system that is flawed you'll never get where you want to be. Instead, follow your passion, listen to your heart and live your best life. Yes, maybe you're not going to be employed but...who wants to have a boss anyway? Much better to use your psychology degree to build up confidence and self steem, and with a good attitude go offer your services to your community, through social media, recomendations, whichever way you like, and you'll succeed. With a good attitude the best outcomes are possible.
Profound comment. Thinking of leaving Auditing to understand myself better. Better late than never
@@changeisgood3824 DO ITT!
Had resigned the first time. The fear of being unemployed got to me and I rescinded the resignation. Worst mistake mistake because that manifests its way to hoow I deal with situations. Now I've made my mind up, it doesn't get much better instead the opposite happens. This is a cruel a devastating cycle. Credit will further lure you deeper.
@@adwaithunni469 D9ne deal. Awaiting for 1 months notice to be honest there's some fear in the action however the relief is better I'm more positive and focused to do better. Matter of fact I have rediscovered my inner child with endless potential. I need to let the euphoria phase pass, deal with reality and enjoy life again. Life is learning and I in learning to make meaningful interactions l. Hope this works out. A part of me believes so
I do a stable job but I don't intend to carry on. I have loved psychology for a long time and my interest is growing gradually. So I decided I would leave my job and go for it. Should I go for a degree or homeschool myself with the help of books available? Since college is afterall a part of a system that's all about sick competition and hopeless grading system. I am too old for that and I have had my share of suffocating college years. Insights please 🙏
I' m a Psych Junior in college, and going into it I already knew all this. It's a depressing fact that our society doesn't understand the need for mental health professionals. Going into Psych, you need to know exactly what you're going for and that you won't make much money. I chose Psych because it's my passion, not because it will make me rich.
Same I'm a highschool student and i think phsycology is a good fit
hear hear!
@@yowzki7284 yeah i´m in the same place, my hope is that in some other countries, sweden or something like that, there are more jobs available in this field
I’ve heard that clinical psychologists/therapists are in high demand
Yesss, I want to help children and try to help them before the big issues start!
The fact that I still want to take the degree after watching this video means something, right?
🤯 I'm sure, it means
Me too, I don't care if the salary is low as soon as I will do what I want to do.
@@francisraffy2376 🙌 respect
same
Do what your heart tells you to do. You are obviously passionate about it. Just go for it. Mad respect for you guys. Wish you the best.
People, life is what you make of it. She has her own view and she has her own biases and I have my own view and my own biases. Pursue what you want to pursue, a dream is a dream. Dreams aren't always structured, life will involve struggle no matter what decisions you make.
You got the right name bro.... "You sound like Holmes Sr. He would write like that... lol" Wise advice!!!
exactly
Agreed.. and now i am scared.. cuz i am interested in psychology...
@@teenagegarnet don’t be scared. these are her views and experiences. don’t let it shadow you from doing psychology
@@keitekapua7002 Thank you I needed to hear that.. My blessings🙌🧿
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This is the Saddest video I’ve watched on UA-cam all year, I feel like crying
Eh. It's real, psych doesn't really give you much quality education. You get grade inflated, high-school level statistics, little to no scientific training, etc. Not to mention the degree inflation at every level-- that's what happens when you go into a degree that's been water down enough that everyone can do it, it makes it a grind.
Even getting you a Ph.D only makes you about as educated as an undergraduate-level physics/bio/chem/eng/philosophy/english/whatever major. Like she said, you're the master of none, but but not even at a base level. There are better generalist degrees, you're not really knowledgeable or "good" at anything.
Props to her for being honest about this.
@@jacob7270 she’s right.. I completely understood what she said. It just breaks my heart really, I’m in my first year studying psychology with neuroscience and this video makes me just feel regret and that perhaps I won’t get a job in psychology in the future.
2020 was a really tough year for everyone there’s a lot that I’m worried about and a lot that has happened in my life. One of the things I’m now worried about is the fact my degree is pointless and all my hard work most likely will go to waste .. that’s why I see this video as the saddest video
@@gloryercash6114 I relate to this a lot. I'm a B.Sc psych major right now :) we've got this.
@@anaisnintuition 💕
@@gloryercash6114 The problem is that psychology programs often don't require that much work they, along with business, have become the new "general degree" that's basically high school level. If you go to grad school you will get a job, but good luck paying off those loans on a average-to-below-average-salary. In the end it's your passion that matters, but you also need to be practical-- if you can see a way to succeed in psych, take it- if you can't, don't.
I got my bachelors in psychology but I know just as many people with other degrees (engineering, art, etc etc) that struggled to find the right pathway. Its not really about the degree or subject you study in college.... it's more about your work ethic and what you decide to do with it. An undergrad degree is just a degree. Its more about the market economy and what jobs are available and how you pursue opportunities. At least from my experience. Getting the degree helped me in other aspects of my life besides professionally... relationships, etc. But again depends on your situation in life, what you want to do. There are no formulas or straight pathways for success. Everyone is an individual with different needs. You just have to make an effort and keep trying until you are happy with what you are doing.
brilliant..
Yeah.. but they were looking for a pathway they loved. Unemployed engineers exist, but generally they can find a decent paid gig in the interim while they search for their passion. Most of the people in psych I know either 1. went back to school, 2. settled for average pay as a soul sucking bureaucrat, or 3. went into retail/things you don't need a degree for. It doesn't really educate you in anything that much, you have a highschool-level education in almost everything with psych, but a college level education in nothing.
Not to mention it's alot harder to develop a decent work ethic in psych, the academic requirements are much lower. It requires way less time/effort to get a way better grade.
Nope, like she said, you have to bring value to organisation. With an engineering degree you can transfer the skills to a very broad range of jobs with good pay. Its not the same for most social sciences. My sister graduated in economics and it was very hard until she decided to go into accounting. This idea that all degrees are the same is nonsense.
I always suggest applied science degrees like nursing, respiratory therapy, physical therapy, electricity, etc. The job search is much easier because there aren’t many titles to look for and you will be trained to do a specific, skilled job. You come out of school able to take care of yourself. You can save money to do what you really want to do. Profit over passion.
@@lilidubois6470 Yeah i have to agree, i graduated in electrical engineering late 2019 and landed my first engineering job in 2020 with a 100k salary package. I can tell you that my mates in other majors are not making nearly as much if at all (thanks COVID). Additionally, my manager is in the 200k salary range so there is definitely career progression beyond low 6 figures.
Every degree has its own downsides, i'm a computer science graduate and i have so many ugly things to say about it too, nothing's perfect
I'm a computer science student, and I'd like to hear what you have to say! I think it'd be pretty helpful to know beforehand, thanks!
@@clipnoir same here
@@clipnoir I think the downsides to a CS degree is that the some of the content is impractical, theoretical, and hence not applicable to most jobs outside of research and academia. The information taught in many programs is outdated. In the United States, it is also common to encounter CS professors who speak English poorly.
In any case, CS is probably one of the most employable college majors you can choose. It will increase your professional status and employers will be less likely to try to lowball you if you have the skills and a degree. A CS degree alone will not prepare you to be a software developer, but it is still nice to have.
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@user-xp4jr1mq8t hey can u guide me I'm a high-school graduate going into college kind of confused b/w choosing cs or phycology like both have their down side and for cs I'm not good in maths but here is phycology I don't think my country has many opportunities for it so I really confused about it😭
“If you do want to do it know exactly what you want to get out of it”, 100%, that’s the only way you can know all these things you mentioned and still choose to do psychology. Great video 🤍
Thank you Ese ❤️
@@TheOxfordPsych Turn to bible and allow CHRIST to be your therapist, psychologist and psychiatrist. No man nor women fits to be one. All are sinners and without glory, all are tempted and suffer the same.
All are expected to REPENT AND BORN AGAIN, to LIVE HOLY AND GO AND SIN NO MORE.
All are weak in the daily fight between their spirit and flesh.
All these therapist, psychologist and psychiatrist, this world provides, can do is:
to deceive and steal.
They deceived you through all these “diagnoses” and they steal your money, through all the pills which you “need”.
In short: they poison your mind and your overall health, leaving you with neither one.
Therapist, Psychologist and Psychiatrist = Field where no human soul, never ever going to fit of being an help, no matter the among of years spend in “medical schools” or the decree gotten from there.
ALL of us are daily deceived, no matter the walks of life.
I‘m thinking about majoring in Psychology because it is a field I am really passionate about. I think if you really love it and you are really good at it, you will be noticed and get a good job. I can‘t imagine studying something more „valuable“ and „forcing“ myself to learn stuff I do not really care about
Pyschology was my major...while my professor told me pysch nursing would be better so I changed my major bad mistake, I switched back over to pyschology... my matter what people say only follow your truth passion..
I agree 👍
EXACTLY. I'm preparing myself to get into a post graduate program in clinical psychology and I can't imagine myself doing anything else but psychology despite being aware of the professional growth rate as compared to other professions (engineering, banking, medicine, etc)
@@manasirai4088 From your name it seems that you are Indian.
I also want to study psychology can you please guide me?
Look at the job offers for psychologists and if you'll see anything that interests you and you can imagine yourself doing, then go for it
This video is so important, thanks for making it! I feel like everyone considering psychology should watch this video. Unfortunately I totally agree with everything you said in this video. I’m just about to go into my final year of my psych degree and I wish I had chosen something else.
Final leg of the race now - not long! Best of luck !
What would you have chosen?
What made you choose psychology at the first place?
@@doresha6673 listen yourself
@@doresha6673 Don’t do sociology
I think Psychology is something that you learn outside of the classroom. I've met people who have phd's in psychology but they have almost zero self awareness. Its a gift that you have naturally but it needs to be watered and nurtured and I believe if you do this you'll be very successful in helping people because you are in your purpose and God given calling. So it doesnt matter about the large volume of graduates or competition for jobs, if you have the gift you'll succeed no matter the odds.
100 percent. The most wisdom I ever got were from people involved in spirituality/buddhism teachings etc. I had a "chat" with this mental health practitioner who did Masters etc...and her insights were so dull that it made me confirm college is a joke. She recommended drinking water, exercising for better mental health. And I was thinking wow you did a Masters and that's all you have to say. I don't agree that if you have a gift you will succeed, not in a college environment anyway.
I really recommend mental health nursing. Not only does the degree at undergrad have an average of 95% guaranteed work within 6 months after graduating but it’s very similar to psychology but from a more practical perspective. Mental health nurses that work in community clinics ( like me) get to assess patients write clinical notes work along side doctors in diagnoses based on referral notes and have an active impact on someone’s mental health. In addition it’s very easy to climb up the ladder in terms of money. A lot of people are discouraged from nursing as they have a conception that the pay is rubbish but I advice you to think smart. Agency nurses ( like myself) earn £28-35 an hour and I graduated with my undergrad 2 years ago. Entry requirements are also a lot lower in comparison to psychology (MH nursing ranging from BBB-CDD) Any more questions on the issue I am happy to help.
What undergrad major would you study for this career?
I’m studying psychology and business degree, would I be able to get into this with my degree?
Sir is it be beneficial for me to do BS in psychology
@@ayubhussain2257 yes
@@mckenzieeleah you can go into nursing with any degree in the UK. Although psychology does help, it’s not essential. However, it is very ‘nursey’, you do a lot of nursing procedures e.g. injections, giving medications, taking blood pressure, temperature, IV and bloods etc. - Student Mental Health Nurse
The literal result of follow a career you love, and you’ll never work a day in your life.
yeah it's more like follow a career you love, and you'll work everyday of your life cuz you'll never make enough money doing it.
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@@ZzDe0 The point is that a career you love is not 'work' in the sense that most people in this world define work
wow this is so demoralising 🥰 love it
lmfaoooo :DDD hope i get a job w this degree lmfao
As someone in the Philippines, im very demotivated
You're all idiots, and I have no empathy for your poor decisions. Better luck next time!
@@SkillUpMobileGaming thanks I've always wanted to kill myself
@@katierina31 Hahahaha simula pa nung una ganyang ganyan na ang Psychology lalo na dito saten. It's fun learning about it but afterwards, nga nga. But I still held on to it. I realized that I didn't make a good choice for a degree a few days after graduation na. I'm glad I proceeded to Medicine. Not because walang future ang Psych, pero partly ganun na rin.
I’m a third year psychology student, and everything you’ve said in this video is so spot on with what I’ve been thinking about this course all along. I felt so demotivated and unsatisfied with this degree as I feel like I learned nothing practical that I can apply on my future job, because as you said the course is filled with theories that it really feels like a bogus degree. I regret taking this course so bad and I should’ve just took dentistry when I had the choice 3 years ago. This video really confirms everything I’m feeling :(
Me too. I wish I would have done dentistry. A specialized job where you can apply practical skills doesn't take too long either and you're still making good money as a graduate. I knew something was up when you had to study zygotes and ovums in 1 chapter, then language study in another chapter. It's so broad that it doesn't know what its trying to be. They should have let this degree focus on mostly the clinical side of things, set you up to become a dr, rather than finally introduce masters later on.
@@nostalgia9338 I totally forgot I wrote this 2 months ago, but I just wanted to tell you my feelings had changed. Yes I do regret not taking dentistry. But since I’m in this degree I should just aced it anyway right! I remember this is the field that I’m passionate about once and there’s a reason why I took this course in the first place, which is to help people suffering from mental illnesses. Now I’ve become more motivated and passionate than ever. Always remember that your interest can grow and never stop learning! Cause the more you learn about psychology the more invested you are in the field! If you are interested in clinical psychology, then make sure to make your own effort to study on your own and not waiting for your lecturers to teach you. I did this and it had really changed my mentality on this course! Good luck and I hope everything will go well for you!
@@TBS2ing You're right. I watched this video and I was honestly shaken. I knew this going into Psychology but this was the cold reminder making its rounds again. I'm doing psychology honestly for the intellectual gain whilst working at a dental practice. And trust me it's not all rainbows in the dental field either. It is a difficult job where you take the stress of being accountable for your patients. I love learning about psychology and although its broad, it's also a multilayered discipline that allows you to learn a lot about everything. This video is too negative in my eyes.
Disagree with quite a few points (and I also studied psych at Cambridge):
1. The theory you learn is not "wish-wash" but evidence-based.
2. Can't comment on the job market in the UK, but in Germany, e.g., there are virtually no unemplyed psychologists.
3. Psychology is a super flexible subject, so you can work in any field within society. Also, to become a counselor you don't have to get a clinical psych degree.
Can u please provide me some insights as to what’s its like taking a psych degree in Germany?
Since I want to actually become a Professional Licensed Clinical Psychologist in Germany but I’m not sure abt the degrees I should take and how it’s gonna be like in Germany
@@mindfulmotivated5145 oh wow okay ty so so so much actually. Btw I don’t mean to be a bother, but if becoming a clinical psychologist (or aka psychotherapist in Germany as u told) takes abt 10yrs to finish, then what all are the different courses n degrees u should take to become a clinical psychiatrist in Germany?
Also when it comes to being a psychotherapist in Germany, would I be able to treat children too? Cuz I want to be able to treat everyone of all age grps, so for that should I be required to take child psychology too?
Even now I’m kinda confused on whether to become a clinical psychologist or Clinical psychiatrist cuz I’m unsure whether or not I want to do medicine or not but yea that’s up to me
Very true! I also disagree with much of what is being said in the video, and in the comments. I’m in my second year of Uni and most of what we are learning at the moment is ‘evidence based’ theories. The flexibility within psychology and the different routes you can take is truly amazing! It is such a broad field. The skills and knowledge learnt within are highly sort out by many different employers, in many different fields. Research, be sure, and go for it! Especially if it’s your passion. Do not give up just because another person says it’s not for them.
Social work rec therapists etc too right? It’s important work. Patient advocates also go to heaven I’ve heard;)
edit: also neuropsych, guidance counselor, special education, right now many many needed therapists in USA
Thanks for this video! Not a lot of aspiring psychology students realize just how demanding the field is and that this leaves little room for uncertainty. Whether you want to go into counseling/clinical/research psychology, you need to do your research and identify whether or not that field is something you would want to work hard to excel in. I am finishing my degree this year, and I am sweating bricks thinking about the amount of people I am going up against in the hopes to get into honours and masters! I love psychology and I work hard, so fingers crossed it works out!
Best of wishes 🥰
I am literally in the same boat. We'll make it out alright. All the best!
@@sallyndungu2894 We got this! Good luck lovely ;)
Hows it going?
Doing something hard builds character and there are endless possibilties in this world. You just have to look up :)
Cheer up, lifes a marathon
I wish I saw your video before choosing my major. Sadly I kinda agree about this hurtful truth, but for those who already chose this major let's fight together , we'll make it through 💕💕
Yes. I think.we.just.need.to do our best. Im.sure.doing.our.best will lead us something.favorable
I think the perfect checklist for kids trying to decide on their majors is: #1 is this something I can relate to and passionately study #2 are there jobs available #3 how long will it take to get those jobs and is the journey worth it... however despite the difficulty and uncertainty of navigating through psychology, I love it and cannot imagine doing anything else.. thank you for sharing the nitty-gritty side!!
what do you do?
@@edenhaile4343 she said she’s doing psychology
@@m_ms39 lol I get that, I was asking for in what area specifically, psychology is a broad field.
@@edenhaile4343 oh fair enough 😂 just used to people not reading the full comment and then asking
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Psychology a good option if you don’t care about money at all. I wanna learn psychology cause I already do it in my free time so why not. Plus it’s great to know human psychology if you own a business out of psychology area.
Psychology is for the rich and privileged, like this lady.
All she says is so true. I would add for anyone out there who excels in math/statistics, your path to a faculty position in psychology is guaranteed b/c those skills are so desperately needed and appreciated. Specializing in statistics/research design is the fastest way to the head of the line, regardless if you are in the clinical area or not.
I just spent 3 years studying psychology at a Russel group uni. I absolutely love and adore the subject, even more now than when I applied for it. But you’re right. It is not easy to get a career in psychology, especially for a working class kid like me. Now I lowkey can’t help but feel like I wasted my degree at this impressive uni that kids where I’m from don’t get into, which took such hard work to get into and maintain.
You could say I’m realising this late, but I’m glad I’m realising this now and not as a postgrad student.
But also, it’s not all bad. I mean most undergraduate degrees are useless eg history or something. So the point is it gives you really important skills and attitudes for both work and personal life, like being pragmatic and open-minded. And it can still be (more) useful for specific types of careers too. For example, I think i might head into Human Resources as a career now.
Try applying as social worker, some of them will hire people with a degree in psychology and you can then take your msw which will get you more higher paying job as social worker or you can become a counselor which btw has a low job market but its there.
Having experience in both UK and US educations, I totally agree with this girl's opinion. I personally know some brilliant psychology students (They really know their stuffs). They went into different fields that are not relating to their degrees upon graduation. If you have a "safety net" (like having plan B or C when plan A fails), there's nothing wrong in chasing your passion in degree. I think the problem is the lack of advisors that help students decide their degrees early because everyone chases grades and always worries about passing or failing in school. That's my opinion. I wish there's someone who could advise me in my choices in education when I was young as I'm the first person in my family to be born with a disability and pursue graduate and doctorate degrees in US university.
I knew most of this already and yes this is definitely the perfect course for me
I hope you succeed!
Good luck on your journey,update us :)
This is such a truly awakening video! Thank you, Aika! I am currently doing my 2nd year undergrad in psychology in Hungary (not even close to UK) and it is the same here, teachers are way too chill and while there are a lot of talented ones, most of the profs just don't care about the subject they are talking about. I will still proceed with my degree and try to be more specific on what do I want to do with that degree and what to study further. Thank you again!
I love this. Thank you for being so honest and candid about this topic, you're helping a lot of people and it's commendable cause not a lot of people say it like it is.
Hey i am currently in my final year of my psychology degree and will start my Master in clinical and cognitive neuroscience this august ! I did my bachelor in the uk and now my masters in the Netherlands ! I was quiet shocked when I watched your videos because you have come such a long way and i am pretty sure you worked very hard to be where you are now - and then to present psychology in such a bad light really surprised me ! I aim to be a clinical psychologist and I have been told so many times how difficult and competitive it is but what degree isn’t? I think only with economics or medicine or teaching you might have a safe job afterwards but with most other degree - history, biology, physics, any language - you have to be passionate and hard working ! And i agree that an undergraduate degree in the uk is very broad - however you said you have to come into it with a clear idea of what you want to do later however I myself came into the degree simply because i couldn’t imagine doing anything else ! And only thanks to the broad education i realised which areas i liked and didn’t like ! You also never mentioned that normally you get paid during your phd which is why one can reduce the amount of education it would take and i guess on top of that i also wanted to mention that i personally love education and believe that i will work my entire life so i might as well stick with education for as long as i can ! I think it was a very interesting video and hopefully didn’t make you feel attacked - but i just wanted that people who are considering going into a psychology career to not give up on their dreams simply because of all the negative sides you mentioned ! Every degree has their downfalls and at the end of the day only you yourself can determine what makes you happy and what you want to achieve in life
hey could i please know which university did you study in UK and Netherland...Im doing my first year in a UK based university (Middlesex) and would love to do masters in netherland
@@scorpion7965 hey kindly reach out for assistance with your assignments
Julia you come to our country? 😂😍 So happy to hear you succeed it! I hope I can too 😭
My favourite comment yet! Completely agree with everything you just said
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I don't really comment often but from the bottom of my heart thanks for this video, everyone sugar coats the disadvantages but this sort of reality check makes you more cautious about the decision you'll make, the decision that will probably define the rest of your life. I needed this.
I'm 40 yo and if I were to talk to my younger self I'd say hey guess what, you need to really work out on yourself and do what you want before considering any degree. Most of my personal interests and professional objectives I discovered later in life but in my early 20s I was so anxious about succeeding and making the right decision for what to study that I rushed due to pressure. Pressure to have a university degree before being 22yo. I could regret my decision but I've learned to accept it. But if I reach to one young person that may be dubious about what to study or going in debt to have a degree where you will be earning close to minimum wage. I'd say don't do it. Go work. Don't be hard on yourself. I promise that you will figure it out. Some of us bloom later and that's OK.
Well spoken
@@MrOscarpedersen Thank you. I really meant it from the heart.
@@gustavohelmer6564 Yes!!! Therapy is so important. I recently discovered that I have huge abandonment issues with my relationship with my parents. Meanwhile I was trying to please them and getting into unhealthy relationships that I myself framed and I'm responsible for. Therapy is so important especially CBT because it's focused on what are our coping mechanisms for survival. Also patience. I wish you meaning and purpose in your personal and professional life.
You sound like an ancient Sage.... God bless you!
@@gustavohelmer6564 lol.... Amen my brother!
This is a very intresting phenomenon. As a psychology bachelor student and danish citizen, i can definently say, that the situation in Denmark is much different. Getting a psychology masters degree in Denmark is HUGE. There are so many jobs that only psychologist are allowed to take especially in Copenhagen, Aarhus and Odense. Also approximately 85% of psychologists and psychology students in Denmark are female, which means that its very hard for females to get a job, but if you are a man, you can get a job in the blink of an eye. Btw. i dont know how the situation is in England, but you could also consider creating your own business - i know tons of people who do that here in Denmark, who earn alot of money. Also making yourself "different", by having certain interests or skills can create opportunities for you, that many "normal" psychologist cant have. An example could be meditation, spirituality, having experienced spiritual awakening, having experienced addiction etc. etc. You can then marked yourself specifically for a certain group of clients. I mean there are so many posibilities. Its always different and more unsecure if you want to work for somebody.
Also, having a strong network, can help you out. Especially if you work for yourself. Good video. I think if you work in other countries than England it is different, so getting a psychology degree from Oxford, could be good. You just have to be flexible. What are your thoughts on the flexibility aspect? :-)
In a private practice you could also make money from writing books, doing public talks, offering online therapy for people who are not in your city, specialize in certain dissorders, or issues (like having been raped) or in helping people achieve (niece) goals etc.
are there any master's in clinical psychology for international students in Denmark? from what I could find, I haven't found any in English :/
It's easier in Sweden as well. At least if you are accepted to the psychologist programme. You study for 5 years, do one year of internship, and then you get your licence and are pretty much guaranteed a job. I suppose it could be because we get a lot of training, so our education isn't as theoretical as it seems to be in the UK. Also, it's really hard to get in to begin with, so there aren't that many psychologists. It's probably harder if you just get a master in psychology here though, rather than become a psychologist. But even those aren't very common I think.
Exact same situation here in Germany! It´s really hard to get into the psychology programme because your alevels has to be really really good. But once you are in the programme you have do do your Bachelors and masters and the job situation is really really good here aswell! There are so many jobs that only psychologists are allowed to do here in germany too :-)
@@marial9453 keep in mind, if you wanna work as a clinical psychologist in Germany you have to pay for the training yourself and it is very expensive. You'll also be required to work as a therapist in training with very low pay and it does take at least 3 years. There has been a specialised clinical psychology program introduced that focusses on clinical psychology and training in psychotherapy methods from the get go, but I honestly don't know what to make of that.
I want to thank You for making this video, you cleared the fog for me really well, because I had the feeling that I need a degree that will specialise my knowledge of this broad subject and will give me direction. But it wont, i have to find my niche and have to focus on that and try to be the best at it, instead of being just a generalist. Great Job!!! Much Love for You!!
I used to be psych student (did 1 year) and unironically, I found Statistics to be the most fascinating part of it.
I'm studying math now(:
and even though it is quite hard, it's already so so much rewarding and I am so glad away from dropping the psych.
My take is run away before it's too lateツ
I find you fascinating because the most painful process of my psych degree was stats 😂😂
bruh why am i feeling the same way
well not 100% agree but stats is great
It's the same for me! I'm studying psychology at the moment and the only thing that's not absolutely dreadful and boring to me is statistics and research. I loveeeee data analysis. I was never really good at math but I'm really good in statistics. Right now I'm just really struggling on what to do next and if I should stop with psychology
@@theGoldjey have you thought about ux research
since covid, specially as the years go on.. the need for a psychologist will be much greater.
I'm 15 and I want to learn about psychology in all its forms to understand more people, human beings and how this world works because I feel incredible greed for such knowledge. For me
money is not necessarily the problem but i am divided between time and passion.
I'm kind of sad now as for "Time does not wait for any man and is a resource one can never get back."
i...will just keep that in mind. Thank you for your video >:
I think Psychology is definitely a passion pursuit. I love it. I'm not bothered about the money. I'm passionate about understanding the human mind, and behavior, and how we can use what we discover to help people.
Here is a point of view from the other end of the spectrum. I did a vocational degree, more years ago than I care to dwell on. I have done post grads and masters since, but that’s entirely caused by an academic inferiority complex. To the heart of the point; I did my vocational degree which was quite employable, and therefore fulfilled its employability purpose.
It also provided me with a job that never really once made me feel academically challenged, or fulfilled. There’s a tremendous upside in being employed, but there is also the imponderable of the path never trodden.
I love people like you that are so down to earth enough to talk about the nitty gritty without the fluff c:
Now I'm in highschool and I'm into biology and psychology, so I decided that I wanna be a major in neuropsychology. Now I'm really scared... I really like studying about those thigs but I'd rather not worry about money in the future. I love traveling, good quality food and equestrian. I don't wanna make wrong decision.
Trust your gut
I’m a recent psychology graduate from the US, and I relate to all of your points. A lot of my friends chose psychology because they were in their second or third year in University and had no idea what they wanted to do. Like you said, some people choose psychology “just cuz.” I’d be interested to see the psychology degree become more transparent and offer more advice early on about career goals. Thanks for the video! I enjoyed hearing your perspective.
Word! It’s a money making machine so obviously universities wouldn’t wanna shed too much of a light on it 😅
What blows my mind is that if college kids learned research and critical thinking skills (highly doubt it based on all the comments), why do you not apply it to the job search? It’s pretty easy to use the internet to discover career paths. Literally look on UA-cam while you’re at it and quit blaming the system.
What blows my mind is that if college kids learned research and critical thinking skills (highly doubt it based on all the comments), why do you not apply it to the job search? It’s pretty easy to use the internet to discover career paths. Literally look on UA-cam while you’re at it and quit blaming the system.
What blows my mind is that if college kids learned research and critical thinking skills (highly doubt it based on all the comments), why do you not apply it to the job search? It’s pretty easy to use the internet to discover career paths. Literally look on UA-cam while you’re at it instead of blaming the system.
As someone who has just finished a psychology degree, I will say that it is superb for people who are undecided. Data handling, statistics, report creation, and critical thinking are all skills which I found were greatly developed by my degree.
I started with a decision between marketing and organisational psychology as a post-grad degree (at least that was my plan for my first 2 years). In my final year I decided I was more interested in the finance world, and have started to study for courses such as the CFA and other finance related courses (and lots of reading around the area too!).
I haven't secured anything out of the 5 applications I have done so far, but I have made it to the final round twice already. So my advice for people who want to do it - what theoxfordpsych is saying is pretty true, but don't underestimate what applying what you learn and putting in some work to develop skills and experience external to the field of psychology can get you. I am ever grateful I took psychology as my major, and don't for a second think I would have been that much better off if I had just stuck myself in economics or something!! - I definitely wouldn't have enjoyed it as much.
My only add on is that statistics can be an absolute pain in the ass, so definitely know that statistics will be a HUGE part of your undergrad degree (and beyond).
You’re talking to entitled privileged college kids who don’t know anything about sales and marketing. resourcefulness is guaranteed to get applied work experience. As a non psych major I am so confused as to how my psychotherapists have made bank while all these kids make excuses for their lack of success. It’s called IT IS A BUSINESS. Can you run a biz? Then you’ll do great. If you expect to be handed a decent paid career on a silver platter go into STEM or get grinding
Psychology is one of the most sought after degrees in Slovenia, because actually getting into uni is VERY difficult, so very little people graduate per year.
I always regretted not studying psychology. I don’t anymore. Thank you.
Which degree did you get?
@@carolinacouto4994 M. Sc. In Electronic engineering
Psychology is a good subject.
This is just one persons opinion, if it makes you feel better, great. But if you genuinely want to do it just do it
Thank you for this video, I've read a lot of these things but it definitely hits differently to hear it in video. I'm currently starting my 4th semester of university studying psychology, I'm desperately trying to find other degrees I can switch to but it's getting late for me.
I'm a bit heartbroken because I love the subject, but the truth hurts and my fears just keep getting confirmed. I hope to switch towards education or nursing, but my university doesn't even offer nursing and that in particular is a nice calling.
I'll figure something out but I feel like I dug myself into a hole with my studies so far, especially at my school where the only real paths are engineering (dislike), biology for pre-med (high risk of failing), and psychology....
Not sure if you have considered or are interested in considering law you could take the gdl and do law post grad.
omg this video helped me so much ! I’m 43 and was considering going back to Uni and study Psychology … I was not aware it takes so long to become Clinical Psychologist . I would be 50 and in lots of debt… NO Thank you !! maybe next life I’ll be wiser and start journey with Psychology in my 20-ties . Thank you Aika 💕
Hey you still can achieve and study psychology even if it's another way or not the clinical one, don't give up 🥰 you will spend money and time anyways so why not with studying something you like
What!! Dont give up so easily I know many people who study later in life ,in fact I believe that ur best years are 30+ . You say that it will take a long time to become a psycologist ,but it is about the journey,if you like it wont studying for 10 years be enjoyable ? I know I want to study for as long as I can ,please do not talk as if your life is over ,THIS IS YOUR ONE LIFE ,please ,if not for yourself do it for me
@@ewaberchulska omg, you could have not post this comment in the better time !
I was literally researching my options to do Psychology Conversion course at Uni as I am still debating in my head whether I should go for it or not .... I was about to talk myself out of it again and then I red your message .... Thank you 😘 your message is like a sign from universe !! that I am on the right path and should at least try .
Hey! Did you go on to do your conversion course? I am 44 and started my conversion masters this year in the UK. It is tough but I am pushing on. Adult education is hard but I am really passionate about mental health and so I keep going. Like you, I thought I was too old to start this journey and would be 50+ before I can become a counselling psychologist but I have good friends encoouraging me to go on with it.
@@lindasawyerr6655 hey Linda .. wow Congratulations 🎉 It’s amazing you started the course . I ve decided not to study Psychology unfortunately… for various reasons .. mainly cost and time . I would be 50 by the time I fully graduate as qualified Psychologist.
I started Digital Marketing instead and getting knowledge in “digital world “ Really love it … I want to work remotely and be a bit more tech savvy 😁 .. Surprisingly Digital Marketing and Psychology have some things in common . 😉 Good Luck with your Course … 🍀
I guess it wasn't a good idea to be severely depressed and also do a psychology degree because now I've graduated with no experience lolol. I really did appreciate this video though since it clearly explained why its been so hard to get anywhere in my career. I still love the field but man am I lost.
What do u plan on doing next?
@@diya8869 I'm thinking of going for a masters in counselling. So for example it would be MSc Counselling and Psychotherapy. Looking for courses accredited by BACP since I can get a license as opposed to psychologist degrees (Counselling psychology) accredited by the BPS which will let me get a license after a Phd or a PsyD.
I made that comment when I was really struggling to figure something out. Now I have some hold but its all still confusing. Got any info that I might be missing?
Why not pursue clinical psychology? Still learn therapy no?
I think it's really important that people understand this applies to any degree that doesn't walk you into an understaffed mandatory study industry (doctor, engineer, lawyer, accountant etc). I know peers that have had this problem and studied maths. Yes, maths is like a super power hard skill but if you don't know where you want to go with it, you can make it meaningless and unfulfilling. The hard truth to psychology is that it's underfunded in public sectors and not particularly profitable in private ones. However, its broadness is it's strength as long as you have clear personal/professional goals. I don't like the sentiment to this video, but it is undeniable you pose many hard questions we should all be asking ourselves in our careers and studies, regardless of the major.
YES! I 100% agree with everything you said. In 2nd year of my undergrad psychology, my stats lecturer made a joke about how she remembered being our age and thinking that she could finish her undergrad and go straight into a psychology role... This was the first time I realised that I either wouldn't be a psychologist or I would have to continue studying and training for too many years. I'm currently studying for a master's in Forensic Psy and thinking of my future career goals, there is still so much uncertainty.
Tips are to volunteer alongside your study and actually find what you are truly passionate about, trust me you will learn more from volunteering than your whole undergrad degree in Psychology.
hello there, Darcy! i saw your comment just now and i don’t know if you’ll still see this.. but i just wanted to say that right now i’m in my second year of psychology and i’m truly struggling mentally. it’s so difficult and stressful to think of whether or not i should stay in this field…. other than volunteering and figuring out what one is passionate about, what else could i do?
This could also be said for many other college majors.
True, but for stem majors basically any other stem major has a much higher ROI
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No shit
"Can Music save Your Mortal Soul ua-cam.com/video/-uexjy4sWu4/v-deo.html." A calming video.
This video is 100% accurate (sad to say), I've just completed 10 years at a UK university - everything you said is true!
This video honestly just solidified my decision even more... A lot of people have been questioning the fact that I wanna be a psychologist and it hasn't deterred me yet... This video also stated things that I'm already prepared to go through, so psychology it is!
If you are going into psychology looking to do the doctorate, don’t do a “clinical psychology” masters. Do postgraduate training in therapy instead!
can you expand on that pls😔
I think another route if you’re in the UK and are doing psychology because you want to do therapy or work in mental health, then to get a core profession (eg social worker, nurse- there’s a whole list on things like the BABCP website of what would count) and to look at going though the IAPT route. You can apply for a psychological well-being practitioner training role (PWP) and then apply to high intensity training/ recruit to train roles. Then you can work toward accreditation with the BABCP and becoming a CBT therapist
There’s lots of routes into working in mental health that I think people who are considering psychology don’t really know about. I did an undergraduate in psychology, then did a support worker role in a local CAMHS team and was able to go on to get a recruit to train role as a high intensity IAPT trainee. I didn’t have a core profession so will have to do a KSA portfolio. My point is there’s different routes so it’s a good one to consider if you specifically want to work within mental health in the NHS.
*core profession
@@gemmadouthwaite9156 picked social work for this reason - applying for IAPT and conversion psychology master's in my third year, with the aim to apply for the psychology doctorate within 10 years. I couldn't do psychology because I am an estranged student, and don't have the option to go back home once I graduate - I really need a job and it's so good knowing I have something to fall back on
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2:32 7:20 It comes off as if you don't really understand what the disciplines of psychology is about as a scientific subject and where those theories are heading. Perhaps not so surprising considering that you're in an applied psychology as opposed to scientific psychology, and you don't really understand why, say, cognitive psychologists study what they study and what end goal they've got in mind. It's a totally fair, also blatantly obvious point that it's unemployable and ok, this is a video about that, but you should've at least, as somewhat of an authority figure who addresses herself a "psychology veteran" for your many, whom I suppose are, young, naive, gullible viewers, explained even briefly what psychology is as an actual scientific discipline and why it's not as unemployable as other hard-sciences or skill-oriented subjects -- but I prematurely assume you know answers to these questions. Do you ever communicate with people in real scientific psychology disciplines, like cognitive psychology? If psychology, as an undergrad major, is attracting a lot of kids who think they're going to become the next sherlock holmes or those who just wants to get through college with an easy major, it's because psychology isn't getting the right PR, not because psychology as a discipline is wishy-washy, which is the impression you certainly give off to these viewers. If anything, this video contributes to that negative stereotype, and it's not doing much favor for the field that now needs more than ever to attract bright young minds.
I suggest that you take a step out of your bubble and and take some time to understand the history of and the current trends of psychology so that you don't embarrass scientific psychologists -- an attempt to understand the human mind and all of its parts and mechanisms in all of it's complexity is the single greatest line of inquiry that traces back to some of the most profound thinkers and philosophers humanity has known. People often allude to physicists as the pinnacle of the scientific mind, but in many ways, the ultimate goal of psychology subsumes even physics since, if physics is the study of the fundamental properties of physical reality, psychology is the study of the fundamental properties of the mind that perceives and interprets that physical reality, which has the potential to turn physics on its head -- e.g. observer's effect in physics ultimately has to include some sort of explanation of the visual system and the cognitive process that extracts meaning out of it. Ofc, the metaphysical argument can be made the other way around also, but psychology is uniquely profound in that it really is the only one true discipline that stands evenly, shoulder to shoulder with physics in pursuit of the centuries-old mind-body problem.
That said, those are the ideals, and the currently fragmented theories of psychology, spanning from cognitive to social, still have much work to do to systemize, formalize, and unify all of its views of the human mind before it can rival the rigors of physics. But the good news you never even hint at is that it's actually making headway towards that direction. And see, even from its birth in 19th century, psychology never started out as a wishy-washy discipline. It was born out of mostly physics and biology trained thinkers like Wundt and Helmholtz who was passionate about reducing the mind to physical processes, which later inspired the wave of behaviorists who really tried to ground the mind on the basis of simple models of testable/observable behavioral/biological S-R learning processes. If not for the functionalist/cognitive revolution that redirected the psyc funding to cognitivist box-and-arrow modelers, behaviorists most likely would've remained as the mainstream "psychologists" to the public. But it's at this point that psychology, severed from its rigorous, experiment-driven biological sibling disciplines, opened doors to many theories not very well grounded in data, which gave psychology the bad name that it has today. But since the 80s, with better brain imaging techniques and particularly very recently with machine learning methods that can be used to model human learning processes, aka connectionism, psychology is starting to find it's long-lost roots in biology again. That's why you'll see, in many leading institutions, psychologists collaborating with neuroscientists and computer scientists is becoming more and more common, as with disciplines like computational neuroscience/cognitive science at places like MIT, Stanford, and Berkeley, where psychologists bring unique and invaluable experimental behavioral data (and interesting cognitive theories about them) that serve as important constraints to the models.
So, we live in the most exciting times in the history of psychology where the unifying theory of the mind-brain could be sitting just beyond the horizon. Did it ever occur to you that, maybe, your young viewers who wish to learn about psychology deserves a chance to be exposed to such central cutting edge frontier effort that may give them a better idea about what psychology is truly about and the direction its heading? unless you had no clue that these stuff was going on, in which case, I urge you to readdress yourself as "clinical psychology veteran".
Are u a troll?
Couldn't have put it any better myself! I feel like everyone who wants to go into a psychology degree should watch this first!
You are accurate about the true nature of this degree and it could be a blessing for many people but it's so easy for you and your flatmates to sit there comfortably and fire some home truths while you all have a promising career in psychology ahead of you and leave everyone else that is serious, full of doubt and almost deter them. There are some truths that need to be exposed but you take on a very negative view. It seems you went in for the wrong reasons.
Just a history major stopping by to say hey to all of my fellow “dead end degree” brothers and sisters 🖐
"Come on - people now.... smile on your brother - everybody get together.... try to love one another right now!" Peace Efe.... I just stopped by to say hey, and to sing you a tune....lol.
🥰 Welcome!
I was thinking of getting an art degree then switched to psychology. I really know how to pick em.
@@simply_nebulous i’m a 10th grade student and i’m also deciding between art and psych at uni. it was art, then psych until this video, now i don’t know
@@juneconnell-sahin1761 me too!! i was gonna go to pscyh but not too sure now..
In the U.S, it is predicted that jobs in mental health, social work and integrative health care which includes counselors, will increase 30% and by 2029, something like 40%. There is a increase in evolution that is driving humans to learn about the mind. This is an amazing time to learn neuropsychological language, chemistry, psychology, therapy, mental health, etc. I work with adults with Autism, read the literature and have a B.S in clinical psychology. I’m currently in a masters program in Colorado and when I graduate, with my licensure, I can expect above average median salary.It is over saturated, let’s be real, but so is education in general. Lol. And out of those 100,000 students, how many many will drop out? How many will “finish later”? How many don’t attend graduate school? How many had less than satisfactory GPA, resume building skill sets? I believe for the people who want it enough, psych and counseling will be just as obtainable as becoming a nurse, or a school teacher. A lot of people need help, and our current system is burned out. More funding is coming our way.
Hello from Denver! I go to MSU Denver and I am doing my research if majoring in Psychology for my undergrad is a good idea. I liked your take on it.
@@edenhaile4343 Go for it! There is a huge need for professionals. It will get tough and you can’t do it for the check! But let me tell you, it’s extremely rewarding and you’ll make peoples lives better. Maybe even save a life? To me, that’s more than money.
@@JamesOnGear3000 Thanks so much James!
I’m from Denver. I could not believe how dismal everyone was in these comments. All one has to do is apply those purported research skills to the worldwide internet and market yourself well. Client based work is up to YOU. My psychotherapist is killing it offering weekend intensives and 150 hourly working flex hours (she starts at 11 am) and now zoom has changed the game! As a sales rep/marketer I see this field as a huge advantage in the current and future market.
To those girls and guys saying they want to study psychology because they're very interested in serial killers and criminology...
...maybe the degree for you is criminology
I’ve heard even criminology doesn’t satisfy that need 🤣 (+ employability even worse!)
@@TheOxfordPsych Loving how honest you are! Thanks for the wonderful advice :)
Forensic psychology is a decent blend of both
@@skye5074 i wanna be a forensic psychologist when I'm older. I'm only 15 but I just know I would love it. Do you think I could make it in that field???? I really don't think I'm ready to give up my dreams because of this video... but idk. Im so so sad
Although a lot of people get their interest in psychology by criminology, its this exact field that I am less interested kek
Thank you. This is the most honest psychology review I watched
Thank you for this video!
I’m 28M with a master’a degree in law who has put 8 years into developing an acting career that unfortunately hasn’t become stable enough to provide for me and my growing family.
As I am looking to change my career path to something I both have natural predisposition to and can make good money on I can see how psychology can be just not my cup of tea (so thanks for spilling it!).
While I have always been passionate about psychology (since I have been exposed to it as early as the age of 7-8 onwards), I’m afraid this passions might burn out too quickly if I won’t be able to provide for the growing needs of my family.
Also, having a legal master’s degree, I am considering of getting another degree in counseling/mediation (because ultimately I want a work that is connected with helping other people).
TL;DR thank you, that has been very helpful and will definitely help me in making the right choice.
Best of luck to you!
As soon as she said willing to sacrifice quality of life I just knew I no longer want to take this sort of career path 😭
Lmaoo same! I was all happy and inspired about it until I seen this 💀
You saved me bruh, literally. Thanks, I'm restarting my first year, would've been left with that psychology had I not bumped into you, You're a blessing, dog. Thanks
Best of luck
What did u choose instead?
Honestly, if I’d known more about psychology as a degree, I wouldn’t have done it. I absolutely loved it at A level, and thought it was so interesting and I was passionate about it. However, at degree level, I don’t find it interesting at all. We just do the same topics again and again, we don’t delve into the interesting things, it feels like we’re just doing surface level, boring stuff, and I’m in my third year of it now. I’m not even going to have a career in it - I already know I’m going to go into journalism (which I have worked to get plenty of experience in from my uni’s student magazine). Part of me simply can’t regret doing psychology, because I chose what I was passionate about at the time. I just wish the degree was half as interesting as the A level was. You hit the nail on the head when you said that we do a bit of everything, but we aren’t actually good at anything. That’s so true, and it’s sad. I wish I was still passionate about it, but I’m just not. At this point I’m only doing it so I can say ‘I’ve got a degree’.
Thank you I’m applying to be a psychology major right now and I needed this talk might do something else ☺️
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Oh my! I was only halfway through the video and it already answered tons of my problems. I believed that I will make the decision more seriously since I have always been wanted to study Psychology. Hope UA-cam got more videos like that.
Appreciate the realism, about to go into 2nd year social work, thinking of changing to psychology, become a clinical psychologist in Australia. Long journey, in my late 20's already. food for thought :)
How is the experience studying in Australia?
In Canada, an undergrad is 4 years, Master’s are usually 2 years (and potentially a year of clinical placement) and a PhD can be anywhere from 4-7 years. I can’t believe you squeeze your bachelors and masters down!! (But am VERY jealous!!!) in Canada at least, applying for clinical psych is as competitive as applying to med school. People often go out of country and pay a ton as international students!
Yeah in my small uni, there’s only 5 places for the clinical psychology Ph.D and 5 places for the neuropsychology Ph.D so I know imma have to make myself stand out to get a chance
@@ari8417 but at least you know beforehand & have the opportunity to work hard for it if it’s your wish. It ended up not being mine... Best of luck to you X
@aena I'm not as confident in answering that because I don't have experience with IT-related jobs. From my observation, though, there are more opportunities in larger cities (naturally) that can pay a nice salary for IT-jobs. And I think you'd also need to consider the specific job, because again I can't really attest to the market for it. So some people can get good jobs with 2 year diplomas, but the problem is Canada has the most recipients of bachelor degrees per capita in the world. So sometimes diplomas are not seen as substantial enough - a lot of people go on to get their Master's... and whether or not it's needed, it gives people a competitive edge. Sorry I can't be of more help.... but I'd say 1) search up some jobs you're thinking of online in a certain city just to see salary and opportunity and 2) consider the cost of living. Idk where you're coming from, but Canada is expensive to live in, so you'll need to make sure you can provide for yourself. The market is tough right now, finding jobs in general is not easy :(
An undergrad takes always only 3 years in Europe, no matter in which field. When it comes to the master, it depends a lot. I would say the UK is an exception with 1-years masters to make them more attractive for international students (re visa etc). It‘s usually 2 years in countries like France, the Netherlands, Germany or Italy. And PhD depends a lot, would say 2-7 years.
@@ES-sv1gu I’m actually about to do my masters in Amsterdam and it’s also a 1 year program 😄
I was considering switching my major to psychology because its like the only subject I am interested in learning about but this video pretty much made me feel like you know what maybe I should be an entrepreneur or something, good video though.
Don't allow one solitary video to deter you from your path. Seek out a number of pro and con videos. Weigh it all out.... God bless!
@@thommysides4616 This comment actually helped a lot, thank you so much!!
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@@thommysides4616 u can not aim to be a psychologist if a random person on internet is able to influence your career goals. Don’t do it because your parents want you to, don’t do it without doing your research on the subject and dwelling it into a bit, then only u ll realise wether u are genuinely interested in the subject or doing for the sake of it, everyone is different so make your decision wisely after evaluating all pros and cons, just do not jump to conclusion like that
This was my first video I have watched of your content. It’s been disheartening to hear your views are unfavourable of your profession and the psychology world. However I respect your honesty and light you share on the realities of studying and working as a psychologist 🌟
If anything this video has reaffirmed my choice to study Psychology, just means I need to work that much harder. The odds have been stacked against me my entire life so I’m used to it, of course it’s not easy, nothing worth doing ever is.
If you’re doing it because you’re inspired by Jordan Peterson, you’re going to get a rude awakening.
@@nostalgia9338 Where in my comment does it say that? Can’t go around assuming things now can we kiddo.
@@ryanmaka9471 Well you are subscribed to his channel and this is where a lot of psychology students get the inspiration from. Jordan Peterson's psychology is different from text book psychology.
@@nostalgia9338 Maybe I just enjoy his content? I’m well aware of this, thanks for the concern though. Personally I think it’s quite weird that you go around creeping through peoples social media and giving your unwanted opinions, maybe find a hobby.
@@ryanmaka9471 Seriously with that attitude, you can forget about post graduate Psychology.
The whole time I was listening to your breakdown of the downsides of psych degrees, I mentally substituted "music" whenever you said "psych", and "gigging" when you said "internships". A lot of the same issues apply to being hirable in music fields, especially the need to be gigging as much as possible the whole time you're studying, so as not to just be a "book expert", which sadly the school environment encourages. It's not crass to think of potential earnings, especially since the education cost a lot of future money when there are huge loans involved. (Shout-out to U.S.A. edu system) I enjoyed hearing your take on the psych field.
Lol. I nearly spit out my salad when you said "The sadness doesn't end here." My mentor once told me that most people who get degrees in psychology, sociology, fashion design, women studies, ect are often trying to avoid math. I don't know if that's true but it kinda make sense.
I was expecting a video about grinding statistical methods, exam hardness and workload. Instead, this video seems to be geared towards steering students away from psychology, so there will be more career options for existing graduates.
Don't let the video demotivate you from pursuing your goals. Just be prepared to go the full hog, and stick with it through to a PhD. If you are prepped to do that, then great!
What are the alternatives?
Shes bitter about something my guess she didnt get the role she wanted
yes this video isint the best ,I struggle with a lot fo self doubt ,I know that I love helping people I love to see how the brain works ,understand it ,I love it and I cant imagine doing anything else ,yet watching this video scared me out of it ,but at this point idc ,I'll suffer thru it if I get to do what I love
Don’t let this video put you off something you love! If it makes you happy and your passionate about it, do your thing, work hard and just have faith it will work out. Psych may be competitive but comparing yourself to others and worrying about the future doesn’t add any value to your life or get you anywhere. When I first watched this I wish there was a comment that said, that for some it does work out, and you could be that person. Also acknowledging that she may not be from the same country you’re from is important as it could be an entirely different scenario where you are.
thank you 🥺❤️❤️😍😍😍❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
Good one 👍🏻
Thank you so much for the transparency of your words and the true struggles someone going into psychology might face. It really brought so much clarity for me and what I should do, as far as career wise. I thumbs uped and subscribed :)
I personally dropped out of college so didn't get debt but this is depressing to see people wasting years of their life on useless degrees, especially here in the states.
I'm graduating with my psych bachelors in two months, and everything you said is so true... RIP
Thank you so much for sharing, I've gained a lot of insight. I will graduate from high school this May and have always been interested in psychology, yet don't exactly know what I plan to do with that education.
grateful as hell for this real talk
made me feel so depressed
You're willing to tell the patient (colleagues in this case) the brutal truth (need, not want to hear), in a direct, well formed, and friendly manner. I'm thinking you'll going to be a terrific psychologist, saving lives!
This was very well done. Thank you so much for making this informational video! I just recently graduated with a Psychology BA, and I feel like you've explained so many thoughts I've had about this degree. I'm not sure if I regret going for this degree, but I think I've changed in such a way that I feel ready to aim for a career that isn't quite related to psychology. It makes me feel like I'm at square one, but its okay I guess
Which career are u gonna do?
hello! if i may ask, for a BA in psychology, what kind of courses did you take? what were the hardest ones?
Hi, thanks for sharing your thoughts and experiences.
I think (for me) you explained things really well, I thought your example of “I want to study serial killers” was excellent as well as your use of statistics re the numbers currently stuffing, bottle necks etc. Just excellent, thanks.
Having realistic expectations is so important, and learning about the experiences of other people is just so beneficial.
In the UK I would strongly recommend considering doing an undergraduate degree in a different mental health profession (Occupational Therapy, Social Work or Mental Health Nursing), good employability and better pay on graduation! There are also now lots of very good conversation masters (1-2 years) in psychology if you later decide its something you want to go back to!!
Thank you for the frank discussion. You are not alone in the view you have taken about psychology.
Thank you so much! I’m studying psychology in Russia, Moscow 🇷🇺
Hi, l must admit that l couldn’t be more agree on the psychology degree topic. I am 25 and have a bachelor’s of art in psychology. I appreciate your honesty and clearance on the topic. I am also a bit glad that l share similar concerns and problems with a Cambridge graduate, l hope l will not be misunderstood because l have gone through similar circumstances and wish u best. I live in a second world country and l graduated from a second-world class university and l felt exactly what u felt and l agree on transferable skills, specialising, wages, employment rate and all. I wish someone has told me those before l got into university but some lessons learn in the hard and painful way. Thanks for this video and all of your efforts.
Thank You for this info.
As it seems psychology is perhaps a discipline worth of pursuing when one is established him or herself financially..to do it without nervous breakdowns and without future prospects, just for the passion and intellectual gain of it. 🙏
Very truly said
Thank you for making this video, this is exactly what I needed to hear
Very honest video. I am a psychology graduate from a top uni, achieved good grades throughout education and a wealth of experience yet I have received so much rejection. 4 years following my undergraduate degree, I have not been selected for these competitive roles : post graduate diplomas and masters. It’s so frustrating. I’m giving it up and going into finances. I’m 25 years old and I am not spending the next ten years of life competing for places on courses or jobs, wasting my precious time and having rejection emails cut away at my confidence and perceived competence as an aspiring psychologist. I’ll explore something else. I’m so sad. Psychology was my first love but now, I’m heart broken. It let me down
You're not alone. I think it's more important to understand this now, before investing any more time into a MS program for psychology. Many of my peers have done this, and I have my doubt that it will ever pay off for them. I had absolutely zero work for one year after graduation, but thankfully things began to improve with time. Once you secure one job, you can use that to help you move forward.
@@warrenf5821 I agree. It best that I have come to this realisation sooner than later. I just didn't realise how competitive this field was e.g. acceptance rates for the clinical doctorate are as low as 15%. :( Do you or anyone have any ideas of fields where my qualification in psychology (and experiences) will be useful? Anything except marketing? I just want to thoroughly explore my options before settling with finance. I have had experiences as a mental health recovery worker, clinical support work, volunteer at community-based MH recovery services, anxiety peer support facilitator and a research assistant. Also, I wanted to ask whether you stayed in the field of psychology or ventured into another sector and if so, which one? Thanks for replying once again, I have been so low and feel like I am going back to the drawing board to reconsider my career path/goals and restrategize.
@@sholly185 there is no need to feel down. I understand the feeling, but I think it’s important to remember that a degree in psychology is extremely universal. There are important pluses and minuses to having a universal degree. While it certainly can be difficult to find a specific job when you’re fresh out of university, you can apply this degree in many ways. I personally ended up finding work in the technology industry, where they appreciated my background in statistics, the scientific method, and basic knowledge of human behavior. Specifically, I ended working with data sets and looking for trends in consumer behavior. There’s a lot of companies out there who appreciate the insight that psychology graduates can bring. I think the biggest mistake someone can make is locking yourself into opportunities that are psychology specific. I spent a lot of time after graduating from university looking through job postings, narrowing myself to jobs that were psychological in nature. These jobs are not very plentiful, they don’t pay that great, and I don’t think that they would be very fulfilling. I would recommend looking into companies near you that you might be interested in working for. You can even go a step further and look into government roles as well. It’s not a terrible idea to look into graduate opportunities, but like you said, the acceptance rate can be low. Don’t let that discourage you. Apply anyway, and keep doing it if you really want to do it. But remember, you can also look into other graduate programs with a psychology degree. Here in the states, a lot of people get a masters degree in social work, and they can more easily put that degree to good use after they finish with school. Hope that helps!
Well said! As a professor in mental health degrees, the process is really grueling, and the pay off is definitely not guaranteed.
I’m scared of watching this I’m 14 and my currently plan is to study psychology
YO WTF?! same here! I’m also thinking of studying history and philosophy as well as psychology haha
As someone who is a final year psych student I would advise you to do as much research and read as much as possible on what it takes to become a psychologist/an active member in the field of psychology. Getting an idea of what it expected of you not only during your undergraduate studies, but also what will be expected of you on a postgraduate basis, will help you identify whether it is something you would want to take on as a career. It is a suuuuper demanding field, but also rewarding in its own way.
Hope this helps, and good luck with your studies going forward☺️⭐️
Same here and now im terrified 🙂🙂🙂🙂
same but i dont understand what sciences to take or what to do that will make my application amazing
omg samee!!!! this video made me sad
I'm so discouraged after this, but it was a necessary video so thank you - I've been working in the corporate sector for 10 years now, and finally feeling brave enough to go for a career change to do what I've always wanted to do (Psych); now I'm not sure anymore. I guess I've felt an affinity for it having experienced severe depression in the past, and wanting to get the chance to work closely with people who might be going through the same thing. Corporate sector pays well, but for all the competition and hours you go through, it robs you of life or any enjoyment!
Don’t do psychology because you feel you have “common ground” with the subject. That’s pretty much every psychology student. And this is why it’s become a joke, too much over saturation from students who “want to be like Jordan Peterson”, thought “Shutter Island” was badass movie. If you want to work in mental health, follow specific mental health subjects, down go down the route of psychology where you will cover “parts of the eye” first before even touching mental health.
I agree with alot of what you said in this video with the exception of pay for a clinical psychologist. I'm doing my psych doctorate in ireland atm and the starting salary for most graduates is ~60k
I need to move to Ireland then 🤣
I'm starting freshman this year in BS in Psychology. What you have said shocked me and break my hearts. I'm just an average student, I'm not smart, not-so hard working and lazy. It scares me to look into my future in Psychology, will I ever be alright? Can I do this? Those thoughts are keep on popping inside my head. Your thoughts and other comments discourage me and give me a second thought about continuing but the thing is I can't go back from my decision. I don't want to turn back from word and I like Psychology even tho I don't know it yet and it's a hard course. But thank you for this video, I will gather all my will, focus and work hard. I'll take your advice about being active for internship and more. Hope you'll a good day 💖💖
She's not exposing anything. She's afraid of the job market. Period.
Yep zero practical job skills. Going to be stuck in academia on a fixed income at best
I wish I could laugh button this cuz it’s exactly what I kept thinking
"You're just as confused as you are going in as you're going out". It is so relatable! I have graduated recently in Computer Science. A lot of my peers and I feels the same as well!