Thanks for the lesson. Very clearly demonstrated the benefits of the two tuning systems. It is really beautiful to hear when you play in multiple octaves.
This was very informative sir.There are not many sources where we can find such information for Guitarists.Please share more lessons like this.And how is that you change film songs to carnatic variants so gracefully.It always astonishes me...you are awesome.
I completely agree with you! Prasanna sir is the only guitarist who plays Carnatic in a guitar. I have always fantasised Carnatic music with rock guitar tuning. I am a Carnatic violinist and was hoping to learn guitar. Now I can play the guitar with the same tuning as my violin!
One thing I learnt from your style of tuning is that on some scales its really easy to memorize the notes on fretboard and also make playing easy when it comes to carnatic music. I really Carnatic music because of the beautiful slides between the notes. Always love watching your videos. So much to learn and so little lifetime left.
Prasanna-ji - excellent video. Thought I'll share with you what I use for playing Hindustani classical music on the guitar. I use an Open-D tuning for the most part (DADF#AD). For ragas that need a komal-gandhar, the F# string is tuned down to an F. The tonic and the 5th are always available and the major third can be brought down based on the need. Secondly, this open D tuning is especially useful when the "chikari" note needs to be played. Since I play in the middle octave, the high D can be used as a chikari. Lastly, it matches the standard tuning of my teacher's instrument - the Sitar :). Would love to hear your thoughts. Best wishes.
Constructing swara pattern on western fret looks tough as you mentioned. I try to use note-swara mapping to assume a different apparent scale position when fret position shifts. not sure if this is efficient. Keyboard helped me to reduce ambiguity. It would be wonderful to know if you have any mapping methodology or fret picturization. The way you played thodi Ragamorphism is beyond words. You have been a real inspiration.
Thanks for the great lesson and mentioning tetra chords. TCs really opened up my knowledge of scales and allows me to easily switch between instruments with different tunings (mandolin, lap steel etc). I’m retuning my Weisenborn right now!
The problem of the placement of frets remains. Guitar frets are placed according to temperate tuning (half-step = twelfth root of 2), while Indian music uses Pythagorean tuning. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pythagorean_tuning
Sir, do you think fretless guitar can bring more raga bhava to carnatic music. ? if so, did you try your hands on fretless guitars ? .. I must say I am a big fan of yours.
I am an absolute newbie to Carnatic music. So pardon me if my question sounds stupid. Why 'E' is taken as 'sa'? In some other videos on Carnatic guitar music, I have seen C being taken as 'sa'.
Dear Prasanna Ji which one is best to start, is it acoustic or classical guitar and which age is best for learn (7 years old is fine for start). It will be very useful if you answer for this. Thanks in Advance.
Sriyappathi Narayanan I would suggest starting with a normal six string guitar. Spend some time with this instrument before You get into nylon strings. And age is not a matter. Street playing and learning anytime bro. Keep learning, keep playing & stay blessed.
i undestand. you can buy him a beginner acoustic guitar. he ẃill get accustomed soon. suggest him sone basic gtr classes first. and always inspire him from youtube.Godspeed.
That was an amazing tutorial sir. Suggest me a way please. I play Spanish instrumentals and I'm interested in learning Carnatic music and implement it in my guitar playing style. I'm really craving for Carnatic knowledge. God Bless You Sir.
Sir this is so awesome !! 🙏 The difference between this carnatic tuning and normal tuning is so huge. Now maybe people will get why only using ravish sitar pedal is not enough to get the sound of Bharat... Do you have any video where I can learn how to play properly the gamakas on guitar ?
So cool. That tetra chord has been around as long as music. I plan to try these tunings in my guitar synth so I don't actually have to re-tune the strings but have a long way to go to sound good. Would you say I should study Gamakas in order to begin learning how to play a 'major scale' in that style or is that different? It seems a little different. I saw a vocalist teaching Gamakas. Your student Maya is great and is how I found your page.
Sir, is it necessary to learn Carnatic vocal before learning Instrumental ie., Mandolin, Guitar? You are so great that every learner can understand and follow you. First time listening such a Melodious de demo. So many thanks to you, Sir🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏 Thank you so much
Thank you for the valuable content in this video.Very informative and rare .It will be helpful to the students like me, who are depending on social media for their classes.
Very great explanation sir.. Thank you for this video. It is like you have explained the two different world of music (western and eastern) in to one video and showed that all music have come from same origin that is the god almighty.
Do you think it's possible to play difficult/complicated Carnatic music in standard tuning? I don't like how this tuning takes the E all the way to a B (need much higher gauge strings). Also, most Carnatic music seems to have single note drones as the rhythm section, do chord progressions exist or are they common?
If you want to use a standard western tuner app, you need to be careful and make some adjustments. I have demonstrated this in a video in my channel (you can click on the icon to get to it).
Western tuning base on with rhythm cords and fingering, Indian classical tuning is more comfortable to play raga with tuning of just mandolin, Thanks for tuning idea, ~ dushyant bhatt
Which electric guitar is better for Carnatic classical music: Fender Stratocaster / Ibanez / any other with dual humbucker pickup configuration? Thanks in advance... ♥️ #deydreams ♥️
I have a question. While for a multi style concert or something purely based on Western music, you would tune your guitar to the equal temperament, how does it work for a purely carnatic concert? How do you fix your Sa and Pa? Do you use an electronic tuner or some other aid to get a Just tuned 5th?
Yes, sir. U r super talented and pioneer of Classical guitar. I too try what u said. Will try in Sa-pa-sa tuning on my yamaha f 310 acoustic guitar...👍👍🤝👌🙏🙏
I am a Carnatic violin student.we tune like that.but on the violin you can't go that low as it only has 4 strings.sir,I want to learn guitar and ukulele.which should I learn as a beginner
That’s not a bad idea but it wouldn’t be ideal in some cases because not all ragas have a major third (e). They might have a different ga, whereas pa stays constants in any raga. Cgcgcg would work or any set of fifths but adding e might make things harder for no reason.
6-B E B E B 1-E
Good and catchy
Good and catchy
Thanks for the lesson. Very clearly demonstrated the benefits of the two tuning systems. It is really beautiful to hear when you play in multiple octaves.
This was very informative sir.There are not many sources where we can find such information for Guitarists.Please share more lessons like this.And how is that you change film songs to carnatic variants so gracefully.It always astonishes me...you are awesome.
I completely agree with you! Prasanna sir is the only guitarist who plays Carnatic in a guitar. I have always fantasised Carnatic music with rock guitar tuning. I am a Carnatic violinist and was hoping to learn guitar. Now I can play the guitar with the same tuning as my violin!
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@@owthamanroobenpadmanaban7239 Cool stuff man 🤘🏽
One thing I learnt from your style of tuning is that on some scales its really easy to memorize the notes on fretboard and also make playing easy when it comes to carnatic music. I really Carnatic music because of the beautiful slides between the notes. Always love watching your videos. So much to learn and so little lifetime left.
Thank you Prasanna. This is immensely helpful for learners like me and I have learnt something new today. Will definitely try these techniques. 🙏
Absolutely amazing!
My humble respects to you Sir.
Thank you. Very interesting and useful!
Prasanna-ji - excellent video.
Thought I'll share with you what I use for playing Hindustani classical music on the guitar. I use an Open-D tuning for the most part (DADF#AD). For ragas that need a komal-gandhar, the F# string is tuned down to an F. The tonic and the 5th are always available and the major third can be brought down based on the need.
Secondly, this open D tuning is especially useful when the "chikari" note needs to be played. Since I play in the middle octave, the high D can be used as a chikari.
Lastly, it matches the standard tuning of my teacher's instrument - the Sitar :).
Would love to hear your thoughts. Best wishes.
hey deepak,
i would wan to learn from you let me know if you can teach me.
Deepak se Deepak jalate chalo!
Thank you for sharing. Opened up a whole new world of melodies for me. Such a rich tone.
Thank you! It makes perfect sense! Love your performances and the PRS guitars :!)
Most logical explanation
Then, Is it possible to accompany a vocalist with guitar in Carnatic tuning? because I cannot go beyond E or F,
Namaste Sir 🙏 your music is crazy nice and I really wish if we can have more learning materials about your music Sir 🙏
Thank you for tuning in 😂... This is legendary !! Thank you sir.. Hope to play like you one day...
Great Sir
Thanq for ur teaching😃😄♥️🎈🎈🎈🎉🤗
💓 from Goa thank you so much 🙏Prasanna sir
Thanks for this video! Sublime skills
Constructing swara pattern on western fret looks tough as you mentioned. I try to use note-swara mapping to assume a different apparent scale position when fret position shifts. not sure if this is efficient. Keyboard helped me to reduce ambiguity. It would be wonderful to know if you have any mapping methodology or fret picturization. The way you played thodi Ragamorphism is beyond words. You have been a real inspiration.
Good prasanna ... it is simply explained
Sir do you do online classes by any chance for students in other countries?
Great video!
Thanks for the great lesson and mentioning tetra chords. TCs really opened up my knowledge of scales and allows me to easily switch between instruments with different tunings (mandolin, lap steel etc). I’m retuning my Weisenborn right now!
The problem of the placement of frets remains. Guitar frets are placed according to temperate tuning (half-step = twelfth root of 2), while Indian music uses Pythagorean tuning.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pythagorean_tuning
Thanks a lot sir! This was very helpful.
Using a capo opens up the opportunity to change the pitch of the Sa
allfifthstuning bro that's common sense , but it is a shame to use capo professionally
@@shas1026 no it's not
@@shas1026 No it's not.
Do u have a music lesson I am from houston
Sir how to play guitar as Sitar..??Could U suggest about the modes to use and tuning as well....
still love it!!
Please bring the level of your video to 101, felt it is for folks who alrady have some knowledge of the tuning and carnatic tuning.. Thank you
Sir, do you think fretless guitar can bring more raga bhava to carnatic music. ? if so, did you try your hands on fretless guitars ? .. I must say I am a big fan of yours.
Super
Which electric guitar is sutable for karntic music. Pl guide sir
Didn't Soundgarden do some stuff in this tuning?
U r great bro🤣😃🎈♥️♥️♥️🏆
I am an absolute newbie to Carnatic music. So pardon me if my question sounds stupid. Why 'E' is taken as 'sa'? In some other videos on Carnatic guitar music, I have seen C being taken as 'sa'.
exact same question I had. I guess if it works for him, it should work for us :-). I am going to try this
Please play carnatic music on pedal Steel guitar.
whats the string gauge you use to get the best in this tuning?
Dear Prasanna Ji which one is best to start, is it acoustic or classical guitar and which age is best for learn (7 years old is fine for start). It will be very useful if you answer for this. Thanks in Advance.
Sriyappathi Narayanan I would suggest starting with a normal six string guitar. Spend some time with this instrument before You get into nylon strings. And age is not a matter. Street playing and learning anytime bro. Keep learning, keep playing & stay blessed.
Rakesh Rao Thanks a lot for your immediate response and my kid age is 7 also the skin are very soft so that I asked
i undestand. you can buy him a beginner acoustic guitar. he ẃill get accustomed soon. suggest him sone basic gtr classes first. and always inspire him from youtube.Godspeed.
All indians should learn atleast one instruments and should contribute to Carnatic world.
Nick Drake's(don't confuse it with that shitty rapper) song fly also uses the same tuning
From 6:50 Thank me later.
Fabulous info sir. Like Carnatic tuning better. Need more lessons from you to keep quenching my thirst.
Hi sir You are my inspiration... I daily watched your videos sir
An real eye opener sir .. Thanks !
Will you be my guitar teacher??
Hi sir, this is really insightful! Would love to see more such videos explaining core concepts. Thank you! :)
Is it possible to learn guitar purely with Carnatic without knowing Western guitar?
Interesting question...
That was an amazing tutorial sir. Suggest me a way please. I play Spanish instrumentals and I'm interested in learning Carnatic music and implement it in my guitar playing style. I'm really craving for Carnatic knowledge. God Bless You Sir.
I don't have a guitar.. but I watched your video explanation without skipping any second.. Great information..! Thank you very much for sharing 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽
e B E B E B
Sir this is so awesome !! 🙏
The difference between this carnatic tuning and normal tuning is so huge.
Now maybe people will get why only using ravish sitar pedal is not enough to get the sound of Bharat...
Do you have any video where I can learn how to play properly the gamakas on guitar ?
So cool. That tetra chord has been around as long as music. I plan to try these tunings in my guitar synth so I don't actually have to re-tune the strings but have a long way to go to sound good. Would you say I should study Gamakas in order to begin learning how to play a 'major scale' in that style or is that different? It seems a little different. I saw a vocalist teaching Gamakas. Your student Maya is great and is how I found your page.
Great info and insight! A small qusn... I see mostly up strokes are used while playing carnatic. Any particular reason/advantage playing that way?
sir but when i tune my acoustic guitar they sound like dead strings is that only applicable to electric guiatrs
Sir, is it necessary to learn Carnatic vocal before learning Instrumental ie., Mandolin, Guitar?
You are so great that every learner can understand and follow you. First time listening such a Melodious de demo.
So many thanks to you, Sir🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
Thank you so much
Thank you for the valuable content in this video.Very informative and rare .It will be helpful to the students like me, who are depending on social media for their classes.
Very great explanation sir.. Thank you for this video. It is like you have explained the two different world of music (western and eastern) in to one video and showed that all music have come from same origin that is the god almighty.
Amazingly simple and powerful video. Tuning, tuning, tuning. Thanks for the keyhole into Carnatic Guitar.
Thank you !!
I'm surprised I dont see a slide bottleneck use, I think it works well with carnatic
LOL - power chords for the new age!
Sir, where can i purchase Carnatic Mandolins? Kindly let me know.
with this caranatic tuning is it possible to play some tamil hit song back in the 80's and 90's.
Thank you very much for the info. It was a real eye opener for our band. Kudos Sir!
Which frequencies are to be set for Classical Guitar Strings..
Is there any particular scales or lesson for carnatic music?
Sir, do you take classes? I've been trying to play classical music on guitar but it's difficult. I would love to learn from you.
He is having a big music school in Chennai, Tamil Nadu, India. Having various courses
Great.. But I have Floyd rose.. :'(
Thatz wonderful bro
faantastik
🙏🏻 carnatic optimization.
Do you think it's possible to play difficult/complicated Carnatic music in standard tuning? I don't like how this tuning takes the E all the way to a B (need much higher gauge strings). Also, most Carnatic music seems to have single note drones as the rhythm section, do chord progressions exist or are they common?
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If you want to use a standard western tuner app, you need to be careful and make some adjustments. I have demonstrated this in a video in my channel (you can click on the icon to get to it).
Sir I'm guitar beginner
GREAT !!! Merci +++
Way to tune guitar for western,
String 6 freat 5, next string 0, means open,
So,
5-0,5-0,5-0,4-0,5-0,
654321,
6 thick to 1 thin,
~ dushyant bhatt
This is gold!
never heard of this tuning. great info and demo. thank you.
Western tuning base on with rhythm cords and fingering,
Indian classical tuning is more comfortable to play raga with tuning of just mandolin,
Thanks for tuning idea,
~ dushyant bhatt
Thanks
Which electric guitar is better for Carnatic classical music: Fender Stratocaster / Ibanez / any other with dual humbucker pickup configuration?
Thanks in advance...
♥️ #deydreams ♥️
... thanks sir nicely explained... the standard gives lot of options to modify the same song with variable sound options
I have a question. While for a multi style concert or something purely based on Western music, you would tune your guitar to the equal temperament, how does it work for a purely carnatic concert? How do you fix your Sa and Pa? Do you use an electronic tuner or some other aid to get a Just tuned 5th?
Yes, sir. U r super talented and pioneer of Classical guitar. I too try what u said. Will try in Sa-pa-sa tuning on my yamaha f 310 acoustic guitar...👍👍🤝👌🙏🙏
A very generous donation of your time and experience. Thank you. Shukria.
I am a Carnatic violin student.we tune like that.but on the violin you can't go that low as it only has 4 strings.sir,I want to learn guitar and ukulele.which should I learn as a beginner
Is it possible to self learn Carnatic guitar? I've been learning vocal for more than 10 years already
Great lesson ! Thanks Prasannaji.
sir i want to be your student pls take me under your guidance
How to play fingerstyle on Carnatic tuning?
Superb playing sir. Hope you were in Bombay
How about tuning the guitar to 1st string E 2nd string to C 3 rd to G, 4 th to C 5th to G and 6th to E. I just want to know your opinion.
That’s not a bad idea but it wouldn’t be ideal in some cases because not all ragas have a major third (e). They might have a different ga, whereas pa stays constants in any raga. Cgcgcg would work or any set of fifths but adding e might make things harder for no reason.
Great indian guitarist..no one better than him
Wow 😳 beautiful playing 😊
Very cool!!
Thank you soooo much🙏 thats all i can say
Beautiful lesson, thank you!
Brilliant and great piece of information!
So nice, so true; Thank you !