Do we know if they were different before the bombs fell? Like did the radiation lead them to be even more mutated and deadly or are they relatively the same as when they were created?
@imnotabeetleiswear6549 i like to think the deathclaws in fnv are different subspecies with straight horns and dry tan skin compared to fo4 wich has more curved horns and a wetter more alligator appearance
I wonder if radiation therapy for cancer started turning people into ghouls in the Fallout universe. I also wonder if people gaining the capacity for ghoulification was due to the constant low-grade radiation that everyone had been exposed to in that universe for over a hundred years.
@@thatguy913this is fallout. Science works as understood by Hollywood films in the fifties. Not as understood by actual scientists. Applying logic is…tricky
There is a Tesla science magazine in Fallout 4 that features a cover of a gecko being beamed with radiation; The title says something like "The key to immortality!?" oddly enough we've already seen the effects of radiation on geckos and it's not ghoulification but it would make more sense that geckos seen in Fallout 2 and New Vegas are the product of 200 years of radiation induced mutations similar to evolution unlike the more rapid degeneration caused by ghoulification (now that argument people will give me should be shot down). I think that the prospect of ghouls is interesting in fallout because there are a few life forms in reality that have similar qualities such as cryptococcus neoformans (a radiotophic fungus found in chernobyl) and some extremophile bacteria that regenerate from radiation at fast rates.
I mean i suppose it could happen in the pre war era, like accidents happening during nuclear meltdowns and people becoming ghouls during the melt down. I know this is random but if ishco something or anther still existed in fallout and still became the most radioactive man alive then he almost certainly would’ve became a ghoul if he had the gene
So, I always assumed that the cycle of the ghoul lore went like this: 1. Ghouls started off implied to be purely radiation-induced because making everything about FEV would've seemed a bit silly. 2. Some dev along the way realized that if that was true then there'd be ghouls showing up in lore since the end of WWII in the Fallout setting. 3. Someone then realized that that would make it canon that the FOverse's US probably had to cover up existence of ghouls after Hiroshima and Nagasaki, which would feel a bit tasteless. 4. The lore then changed so that ghouls are caused by a mix of low-level FEV exposure and radiation damage, which would limit ghouls to at most an unknown number of years before the Great War and still solidly in the "post current year" parts of the timeline.
My gut after watching the fallout series was that Vault Tec was able to incite the ghoulification process through some vaccine (or FEV). Cooper Howard’s wife worked for Vault Tec, so it would’ve made sense that she took measures to ensure her family’s safety. Also maybe all vault dwellers and Vault Tec employees had this treatment done, so all of the protagonists from each Fallout game are alive as Ghouls hundreds of years later.
@@chaosvolt oh that makes sense now that I’m re-reading it. But now that the lore has opened up to a wider audience, they could totally go with my theory with the Amazon series being so popular. But also I like the idea of ghouls appearing in Japan after they’ve dropped the bomb. When the peace treaty was signed (World History seems to be identical in the fallout universe up until the end of WWII), the US agreed to pretty much act as Japan’s military force and still have men stationed there today. The ghouls could’ve been an unintentional byproduct of the bombs and the treaty could’ve been a cover up for scientists to be stationed there and study the area.
Like if a caveman in the fallout universe accidentally found some uranium and became a ghoul and survived until after the great war? Basically an uglier Vandal Savage
If becoming a ghoul was known about prior to the war by rich people, why did those rich people at far harbor decide to become robo brains? Being a ghoul is definitely preferable to being a robobrain
Not much of a fan Bethesda story telling in fallout but I always thought point lookout and Desmond story was awesome. The lore behind the great game of bunch of pre war guys killing eachother in the post apocalypse. Shame that Bethesda never took that story in when making 4.
3:39 i wish they had consulted someone w neuroscience knowledge cuz ur brain doesn't have any pain receptors in it lmao it's impossible to feel a part of your brain hurting, you can feel part of your head hurting though
eddie winter should have been a faction leader, like a mix between mr. house and gizmo, in charge of goodneighbor and you can assassinate him after nick finds out his identity and put hancock in charge. give the people playing fallout 4 something interesting to do for a change...
One small note on the deathclaws are actually Prewar. Developed by the US Military to replace infantry
Do we know if they were different before the bombs fell? Like did the radiation lead them to be even more mutated and deadly or are they relatively the same as when they were created?
@@imnotabeetleiswear6549They were made using the FEV, and since super mutants are heavily resistant to radiation, deathclaws probably are too
@imnotabeetleiswear6549 i like to think the deathclaws in fnv are different subspecies with straight horns and dry tan skin compared to fo4 wich has more curved horns and a wetter more alligator appearance
@@ONEOFUS767 that's called adaptation and evolution.
@@imnotabeetleiswear6549 evolution and adaptation more likely played a heavier roll, but the radiation probably sped things up with mutation and all.
Pre-war comment
I always thought the sino-american war would be about oil, not Taiwan of all things
@@rynun7620 , it will become about resources.
HEGEMONY is nothing without resource control and abundance.
Pre-war reply
Love this
one day this will be a very sad comment
I wonder if radiation therapy for cancer started turning people into ghouls in the Fallout universe.
I also wonder if people gaining the capacity for ghoulification was due to the constant low-grade radiation that everyone had been exposed to in that universe for over a hundred years.
It wasn't to treat cancer, but Eddie Winter ghoulified himself before the war.
I’d doubt it kemo doesn’t have enough radiation to scramble your DNA enough to become a ghoul
@@thatguy913this is fallout. Science works as understood by Hollywood films in the fifties. Not as understood by actual scientists. Applying logic is…tricky
You missed a ghoul from the before times, your mom! Hahahahaha
Good one mudddah huckahhh 😂😂🎉🎉
@@jacobbeaupre3940 Word!
There is a Tesla science magazine in Fallout 4 that features a cover of a gecko being beamed with radiation; The title says something like "The key to immortality!?" oddly enough we've already seen the effects of radiation on geckos and it's not ghoulification but it would make more sense that geckos seen in Fallout 2 and New Vegas are the product of 200 years of radiation induced mutations similar to evolution unlike the more rapid degeneration caused by ghoulification (now that argument people will give me should be shot down). I think that the prospect of ghouls is interesting in fallout because there are a few life forms in reality that have similar qualities such as cryptococcus neoformans (a radiotophic fungus found in chernobyl) and some extremophile bacteria that regenerate from radiation at fast rates.
I mean i suppose it could happen in the pre war era, like accidents happening during nuclear meltdowns and people becoming ghouls during the melt down. I know this is random but if ishco something or anther still existed in fallout and still became the most radioactive man alive then he almost certainly would’ve became a ghoul if he had the gene
So, I always assumed that the cycle of the ghoul lore went like this:
1. Ghouls started off implied to be purely radiation-induced because making everything about FEV would've seemed a bit silly.
2. Some dev along the way realized that if that was true then there'd be ghouls showing up in lore since the end of WWII in the Fallout setting.
3. Someone then realized that that would make it canon that the FOverse's US probably had to cover up existence of ghouls after Hiroshima and Nagasaki, which would feel a bit tasteless.
4. The lore then changed so that ghouls are caused by a mix of low-level FEV exposure and radiation damage, which would limit ghouls to at most an unknown number of years before the Great War and still solidly in the "post current year" parts of the timeline.
My gut after watching the fallout series was that Vault Tec was able to incite the ghoulification process through some vaccine (or FEV). Cooper Howard’s wife worked for Vault Tec, so it would’ve made sense that she took measures to ensure her family’s safety. Also maybe all vault dwellers and Vault Tec employees had this treatment done, so all of the protagonists from each Fallout game are alive as Ghouls hundreds of years later.
@@sterlingarcher74 I was talking about the likely IRL reasons for the ghoul lore being all over the place, so. :V
@@chaosvolt oh that makes sense now that I’m re-reading it. But now that the lore has opened up to a wider audience, they could totally go with my theory with the Amazon series being so popular.
But also I like the idea of ghouls appearing in Japan after they’ve dropped the bomb. When the peace treaty was signed (World History seems to be identical in the fallout universe up until the end of WWII), the US agreed to pretty much act as Japan’s military force and still have men stationed there today. The ghouls could’ve been an unintentional byproduct of the bombs and the treaty could’ve been a cover up for scientists to be stationed there and study the area.
Eddie Winter became a ghoul before the war so yes, yes they did.
goofy bethesda written quests should be discounted always
fallout 3 and 4 arent canon
@@mertm.995 Wow don’t you just love sucking off Fallout 2’s phalice.
Fallout 2 and Fallout 3 are overrated crap.
@@mertm.995 🤓
@@mertm.995 Huh? In Fallout New Vegas, you can see the Wasteland Survival Guide, from Fallout 3. When did Bethedsa say Fallout 4 is not cannon?
Are ghouls a pre-war thing? Or a pre pre-war thing?
I think it's more accurate as a post-pre-war thing, or pre-post-war.... What day is it? Who am I?
I can almost hear Zach loading his shotgun in rage
Yes men of culture 🎉
Like if a caveman in the fallout universe accidentally found some uranium and became a ghoul and survived until after the great war? Basically an uglier Vandal Savage
very small unimportant note, but slough is pronounces like sluff
That's a neat fact for non-native speakers like me, thanks
This a year old but its only pronounced sluff when talking about snakeskin otherwise it's pronounced sl-o
The headline floored me. I didn't even think of that. Amazing, dude.
:)
I know one, blew his face up with fireworks (dont feel sorry for him, his idea of fun was killing hedgehogs by smashing them with bricks)
lot of chem stuff, and other junk
If becoming a ghoul was known about prior to the war by rich people, why did those rich people at far harbor decide to become robo brains? Being a ghoul is definitely preferable to being a robobrain
Not much of a fan Bethesda story telling in fallout but I always thought point lookout and Desmond story was awesome. The lore behind the great game of bunch of pre war guys killing eachother in the post apocalypse. Shame that Bethesda never took that story in when making 4.
Accidentally found your video through the algorithm but good job👍
an interesting thing in the fallout universe is what happened to the japaneses people when little boy dropped? They turned ghouls?
love your aussie accent! thanks for the videos, from manchester uk
Great war: happens.
Soon to be ghouls: "rev up those fryers"
2:58 don't think I wouldn't catch that Dying Light 2 screenshot ;)))
Have you done the military rankings of the brotherhood?
Well doesnt that mafia guy turn himself into a ghoul before the bombs dropped
i think they exisited even before eddie winter maybe some were created in nagasaki.
Good video.
No
3:39 i wish they had consulted someone w neuroscience knowledge cuz ur brain doesn't have any pain receptors in it lmao it's impossible to feel a part of your brain hurting, you can feel part of your head hurting though
Is fallout 4 & 76 cannon ?
yeah
tactics isnt. new vegas is canon
Every game except for Brotherhood of Steel and Tactics are canon.
@@HomeCookinMTG Only officially. According to the unofficial canon the only fallout game is wasteland
Yes. Obviously. They’re made by the fucking company that owns the series.
Keep up the good work buddy
eddie winter should have been a faction leader, like a mix between mr. house and gizmo, in charge of goodneighbor and you can assassinate him after nick finds out his identity and put hancock in charge. give the people playing fallout 4 something interesting to do for a change...