Powerful MEN & Young WOMEN | Chris D'Elia gets caught
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- Опубліковано 9 вер 2024
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Thoughtful and measured approach to this. I appreciate the mention that few of us are taught how to date compassionately. I will say that I think this convo could have been better served if the focus was not on what's right vs wrong, but instead what's necessary vs unecessary. From an evolutionaty standpoint, generations upon generations ago, perhaps there was merit in men being consistently attracted to women in their fertility prime, but now thanks to advancements in healthcare, nutrition and lifestyle - it is no longer necessary. That is the advantage of being in a progressive society, we get to evolve faster than our genetics can keep up and determine for ourselves what is necessary vs what is not. A grown up (
Great comment. I would raise you a few questions then.
1) Why insist on necessary vs unnecessary, majority of our dating preferences are not about what is necessary but what we like/dislike. I dont need a woman with a fat ass but I still want one. In that same token if men want women in their early 20s or women want men in their early 20s despite being in their mid thirties, i dont see why that want is wrong. (provided everyone is legal)
2) You say its harm to date someone who hasnt fully mentally developed, can you cite me studies on that?
3) If it is harmful, is it because its an older person engaging in that behavior with a younger person or can young people who are both at that young age engage in harming each other. My question being, if that harmful behavior is inevitable regardless of age, i dont see why older partners are off limits.
4) is it societies job to protect young adults from their own mistakes? Part of development is making your own choices and learning from those experiences/consequences. Who are we to tell young adults what is / isnt necessary for them? I traditionally choose freedom over anything else.
5) Honestly the experience wasnt bad lol, i just mentioned it to add personal experience to the convo.
necessary vs unnecessary, I like that point of view.
I definitely see both points of views. From an evolutionary Psychology perspective multiple studies till date have found that men are attracted to you youthful appearance, in terms of physical appearances. Vice-versa multiple studies in Evolutionary Psychology founds females are attracted to men likely to take care of there offspring, both physically and financially. These dynamics set up the norms in today’s dating experiences across most cultures. Not saying they’re perfect.
But what I don’t agree with is the biases in public perception of dating younger based on Gender. For example the French president is married to his secondary school teacher, they had a relationship when she was his teacher and he’d go to her house for homework and was friends with her daughter. After their odd relationship was found out by his parents there was public outrage and as time went by she left her husband for him at the age of 18. This man is the French president today, and society celebrates this lady. Do you think this would be the case if there roles were reversed. Ethically speaking as a man, I know I need to be more cautious especially if I possess any power in society.
Not in any way endorsing Chris D’Elia, but let’s hold back mob mentality unless he’s found guilty for a crime.
I'm not sure if this analogy holds up. If a group of high school kids competed against a group of elementary school kids in football, yes, the HS kids have a developmental advantage over them and the elementary school kids would be at a disadvantage, but when it comes to forming relationships people are not competing, they're coming together -- and those same advantages/disadvantages might be what's "necessary" (as you claim) for some people to feel attraction towards someone else. And we don't get to decide what's "necessary" and "unnecessary" for people to feel attraction for someone else, only they do. Again, this coming together/forming of a romantic relationship is often predicated on these developmental differences and as you say, people determine that for themselves.
You also contradict yourself. You said "we get to evolve faster than our genetics can keep up and determine for *ourselves* what's necessary vs what is not", and then literally contradict yourself in the next sentence by dictating what is necessary and what is not for other people. I thought they were the ones deciding that for themselves? That's a fundamental flaw in your entire post. I'm not trying to excuse this dude's behavior or advocate for him. I don't really care about any of that. I just thought your post was interesting.
One more thing you said -- "perhaps there was merit in men being consistently attracted to women in their fertility prime, but now thank to advancements in healthcare, nutrition and lifestyle -- it is no longer necessary" -- Correct me if I'm wrong, but the implication here (at least what I got from it) is that men should be attracted to something else, or that their attraction should change to something other than whatever it is currently. To what or how exactly should their attraction change? My other question is, who gets to decide whatever that is, other than the men in question themselves?
How is consent, rape, racism having to be censored. UA-cam is a mess.
it's corporate politics gone mad!
Because corps dont want to be associated with such things so must be suppressed.
Wtf they even censored the word virginity
Hopefully the algorithm/AI that monitors content like this doesn’t censor content based on the comments too. Not saying anything about your comment, but like- imagine if our comments down here about the topic counteract their attempts to censor themselves to not get cucked by the algorithm.
I don’t think it is having to be censored. I don’t see other channels censoring this much I’ve seen them censor penis and basically every word that is remotely sexual but not censor the N word. I see plenty of other channels who don’t censor these words and have no issues.
The fact that you have to censor the word consent is ASININE
Agree. It's nuts. You should check out the list UA-cam has for words that will demonetize their content creators, it's insanity.
Crazy. I was wondering why that was censored
Its going to get like it did in the old days on TV, with programs from England they would say "feck" to get around censorship for swearing
I was just about to comment this. I was like wtf is going on with the sound. and realized it was the same word. is UA-cam this f'ing out of touch that they'll flag videos.
Or as Stephen A Smith used to say. It’s asiNINE, asiTEN, asiELEVEN, asiTWELVE!!!
“He’s been caught playing on the wrong playground” 💀💀💀💀💀💀
Bruhhhhh☠️☠️☠️
Offfft Killed me 😂
Legendary ☝️
Oops😬
💀💀💀dead💀💀💀
I'm not attracted to younger women. Too much drama, I don't need to raise a daughter.
What, shit I got a 30 year old that acts that way.... soooo fukn frustrating at times and I got 2 seeds I'm from the hood but my mind was on some boss shit trying to get my life right; almost did, but pussy got me...than I find out years later she has a child like mindset, now it's like I'm raising her... even showed her how to cook some shit, cause she couldn't cook like that smh and even bake bro... which I learnt on my own When I was placed in a Group home; got out trying to do better stuff from being in a fukd life but man it's hard....
@@TheSmilodon85 You had two children with her?
@@TheSmilodon85 Had a close call with a woman like that, she was 28 though, thank my lucky stars she wasn't pregnant, was the wake up call I needed in life lol.
@@Mad_Intalect you are lucky bro advice just have fun don't stress too much about things...
@@Mad_Intalect climbing*
You know the world is in a weird spot when the word “consent” has to be bleeped out
what? why????
Let me fix this for you ... " America " is in a weird state... America
... let me repeat this... 'not the world'... "America" . Thank you.
It’s cause they don’t want you realizing that consent is a myth, as if anyone vocalizing permission before sexual acts, not to say rape is a myth.
@@nathankayhan4358 I hear North Korea is nice this time of year
Michael lmaoooo
“When you say teenager.....how old we talking?” -R Kelly
😆😂😂
Technically it's 11 and above (up to infinite)
FalconGamer58 Eleventeen sounds legit...
He really said this which still blows my mind lol
To be fair, there really do be a huge difference between 13 and 17.
How old is 15 really?
-Dave Chappelle
PARAGON_916 old enough to dodge R Kelly
Bring R Kelly in. Stay away from the eyes.
@@djkoz78 dont wanna go to jail with balls smooth as eggs
Look the piss watched right off see?
I remember this. I like that Chapelle can say simple yet complicated things like that.
I was 13 , had a bad home life and confided in my friends 29 year old older sister , she also taught me every single way to please a woman for a year. It took me until i was in my 30's to even begin to realize how much it f%cked me up...I have 3 daughters all teens to early 20's who older men approach all the time , and it is normalized , but i believe women target just as much
Lucky
@@ocsjc13 🤨
@@ocsjc13 nah man…
@@ocsjc13 nah he got irreversible trauma and got raped by someone he trusted because he opened up to them.
@@cloyyster778 his comment makes no sense though. Highly doubt he was raped a person would lead with that instead of using the word taught. Also he states he already had a bad home life before they lady even came along. irreversible trauma was already present. That said its different strokes for different folks, Ocsjc13 has a dream and wish it was him instead it doesn't affect everyone the same way.
Crazy these guys will be at 1 million subscribers before the end of the year. Good job guys.
Found them at under 300k subs like 2 weeks ago, they are blowinggg up. But they deserve it because they’ve been at it for years and years
@@omgurheadsgone i was here in 2017 and i always thought how the fuck do they don't have more subs.
Primal King Dating and by the looks of it they should be at 1 million subs by the end of July ! Insane
More people need to watch these videos too lol
@@blackbear2495 Exactly. The views need to match. I remember when the views matched the subs more. I see channels with 1+ subs but thousands of views 🤷🏽♀️
I’m a 19 year old man with autism. Despite having a somewhat underdeveloped brain I don’t hear anyone saying I don’t have the ability to consent.
Taliesin Halliday 999/1000 of the time
yeah its cause your a male.....post feminist society treats women as incompetent and infantile overgrown children
Brodie Keown That’s what they are though, I treat women like children most of the time and they seem to engage a lot more, try it lol
No offence but depending on how severe your condition is I could say you don’t have the ability to consent . I’ve worked with autistic young men 18 - 22 and I don’t think some of them could consent tbh
Aish He’s on UA-cam following a complicated social issue and engaging. Assuming he’s not bs and neither are you, what do you think? Ffs... and you work in the field.
When I was 20 I was dating a 45yr old woman... My friends all dapped me up and congratulated me. Double standards in my opinion.
As a female it all makes sense to me...she’s fertile he’s possibly wealthy and stable. 🤷🏽♀️ That might explain the happiness dynamic they referenced
plenty of ppl talked how dicaprio and joked about his preferences also ‘fertile’? girl please! that the biggest excuse he doesn’t care about that shit
@@SalamiFingers HE may not, but his hormones are a different story.
Your girlfriend's friends were dabing too LOL
That’s nasty
My BF substitutes at middle schools and kids LOVE him to the point where they run up to him and give him hugs.
I told him as a grown man he has to be careful with that kinda thing.
So sad that our culture has diluted so much that we can no longer express innocent affection to anyone without fear of being cancelled or being called a creep or predator. Applies to men and women. We’ve strayed so far from our roots as human beings where it used to be normal in tribes to hug, kiss, and hold hands with everyone in the tribe. No wonder rates of depression and suicide are so high.
@@plantsir9173 It really is. I see the way my boyfriend interacts with my nieces and nephews (of course, my family doesn't mind) and it makes me wish people could see men who are truly loving, playful guys as plainly as that.
But I also understand that some terrible men have spoiled that for the rest.
@@plantsir9173 Honestly, this is better now than when kids were actually being abused and no one suspected anything because it was "Uncle Mike" or "Grandpa Joe" or Miss Smith. I'd rather people be on high alert and the pedos be afraid.
My cousin taught kinergarten but quit about 20 years ago after she was told that if a kid in her class hurt themselves on the playground and ran up to her crying she was not allowed to pick them up or give them a hug. A FEMALE teacher was not allowed to hug a five year old who had fallen off the swings.
@@N7Tigger I can totally relate, going through high school I had a teacher who was like a mother to me, very welcoming, always there when you needed to talk, during one of the most difficult times of development, thats really important since not everyone has parents to talk to. She would say, "I'm not supposed to, but I would like to give you a hug, is that alright?" and of course I'd say yes, she wanted to console me, there was never anything inappropriate about it. Any less appropriate than hugging your mother or father. Teachers dont have the level of respect that they should have because teachers are either amazing, or dirt. and the dirt teachers ruin it for everyone. I just compare it to a place like Japan, your social standard are so different, you are given so much responsibility because that drives maturity. If you have no responsibility you arent driven to do anything. i see it all the time with teenagers who sit on their ass all day, no responsibility and expect the world to just fall to their feet. a society whos parents have to walk their kids to school every day, and japan, tiny little girls barely 5 years old, are expected to walk to the station, take a train, an hours ride away to school everyday by themselves.
its sad, the west coddles their offspring too much. how can anyone grow up if they're not expected to. thats why we have the worst case of man-child syndrome in the world.
Aba and Preach is secretly an educational channel.
not secretly. Just straight up.
I watch this channel to learn and become more socially aware I like how their content is educational while being entertaining
@@lilhumblebee Same.
@@lilhumblebee Same.
Please educate yourself on these subjects beyond this channel.
I've commented on Aba and Preach videos before. I'd like to reiterate a point I made previously. You know those conversations that hashtag activists are always talking about starting but never follow through on? These guys are having those conversations. Sometimes, that conversation is an internal dialogue they outwardly express in long monologues. Sometimes, they chat with each other, and there's a ping pong match of ideas going back and forth. And sometimes, that conversation is with the view. In any case, I'm always engaged. Props to Aba & Preach.
Hell yea, n I know it's gone be serious within a few secs with preach demeanor n aba saying critically n 26mins lol someone fucked up big time
perfectly said. nice
I read a news article today that 68% of the fires shown weren't actually caused by riots, but by people showing pictures of Preach's hair 🔥
😂😂😂
@Iridescent Silhouette r/whoosh
Looool that's petty 😅
Iridescent Silhouette Yoo stfu
Mo Delazim I think it was a compliment
I gotta say, I love this channel. I often disagree with you guys but you guys approach the difficult questions the right way. This channel brings people of all different perspectives together to have conversations and the comment sections show it.
Kinda weird that you often disagree with them when most of what they say is factual
@@cajunking5987 here we go with this shit.
@@ompatel8988 the truth…?
@@cajunking5987 You are allowed to have opinions my guy.
@@cajunking5987 You can have opinions my guy. Plus, that wasn’t even the point of her comment.
"I don't have answers for this, I just have a lot of questions."
-Aba
Many people feel the same way about many other things. We just aren't willing to admit it.
It's sad how we stop being curious and questioning things as we age. Now we take things at face value as truth or as what's right
It’s because some topics are so taboo that even the mention of it will get people pissed at you. Everyone has questions, but we suppress them in order not to be seen as a “deviant” or “outcast”. Touchy subjects are tough to talk about so people just avoid them all together. Sad truth
this is such a great quote. i feel this way about alot of things, especially politics.
@@local8457 Same here
I dont think that Chris is a pedo. You said it yourself; once he found out they were not of age, he backed the f off.
Yeah, this is all ridiculous and is suspiciously all coming out immediately after he released his first comedy special.
The dude was chatting online. The women involved are responsible to state their age and when they did so, he literally ghosted them. That’s not the action of a predator, groomer, or “pedo.”
As far as I can tell with the available screenshots, he literally did the right thing immediately upon learning the girls were not adult women.
People on Twitter stay trying to cancel people. Idc anymore. Poor Chris being labeled as something he's not.
Yeah people LOVE to ruin somebodies life off accusations. Even the thumbnail says he got CAUGHT.
Not always, he was persistent after finding out they were minors in multiple instances.
Am i going crazy? this dude made ZERO implications and he is 'caught'. man im done with these delusional people
Officer - “You’re under arrest for dating an underage girl”
R.kelly - “Underage???? She said she was thirteen”.
Shout out longbeachgriffy
😂😂😂
R.kelly - "Wait a minute Officer I thought I was in Japan".
@@johnspicer4152 😂😂😂that's a good one
ROLMFAO 🤣😭 Charlie Murphy Meme LMFAO
One of my friends got a tattoo the second she turned 18. All day she made jokes about being „legal“ and made some pretty nasty remarks. At the age of: 17yrs, 364 days, 23, hrs, 59 minutes, and 59 seconds you are *vulnerable*. But one second later you are an adult and the law can barely protect you bruh
today's topic: Preach's hair 😍
The weeknd would be proud...
For real!
That fade is crispy
🔥🔥🔥
Agreed 😊😊😊
The fact that he played a character on “you” with the exact same accusations is crazy
Probably has something to do with why people are "coming out" to say something... meanwhile no sex or grooming has happened?
I immediately thought of that when I saw the title! Haha (this next part isn’t just addressed to u but in general):
but when I saw the “evidence “ it’s so stupid because he didn’t even engage after they told him how old they were. If there comes out a story where he actually slept with an underage girl, they yep I’m totally against that. But anyone 18 or older who talked or flirted or dated. No problem with it. Every persons maturity levels are different but they put the legal age at 18. The law is the law. It might creep certain people out but I’m not buying this whole power dynamic. He uses his status as part of his charm. We all use what we can. I don’t like how it seems like he’s being “me too’d” when he didn’t actually do anything. It makes it harder for people to take real victims seriously.
@Lord Baxter B Rad! 😂 That ep of work-aholics was classic.
@JoneryStan4Life Which could mean two things, either he took the role because it was something he could "relate" to. Or him taking the role is what triggered the accusations (whether the allegations are true or not).
@@meganmeehan1565 mmm.. 💭 💭 💭
"I dont have any answers for this, I just have a lot of questions."
Thats me 24/7
That's me in 2020
I was groomed at freshly 15years old by a 21 year old. I was homeless at 15 and he 'took me in'. We 'dated' until I was 18 when he told me one night the only reason he went for me was because I was very impressionable and he was able to make me whatever woman he wanted... lol. what Chris has done from what I've seen isn't grooming and once he finds out the age of the woman he doesn't contact anymore. I think its bullshit.
@PrisonCipher even without the age of consent thing, I still think he was partly in the wrong because he didn't take into consideration the other person's feelings or needs.
Women do this too, a 26 yr old got me at freshly 18 and freshly minus 150lbs and had no idea zi could do better than this horrible woman. I passed up hot groupies on tour and at festivals to be faithful to her. Then left ME! it then destroyed my band. I wish I had never met her or the manipulative baby trapper I met soon after. Needless to say after my divorce I turned into a bit of a fuckboi. But this was the MySpace era so,, chicks were just as horny in the 2000s. Now at 43 after a 10 yr relationship and a 20 yr old out of the house I have a dilemma..... find love, or, being 43 but constantly being mistaken for 30, just fuck anything that moves?
I'm 27 now and thinking about being with a 17 y/old makes me feel weird. Even if I'm a woman, that's just weird to me. now that I'm older I just know how muchhhh you change and grow up, there's a huge difference between me at 17 and me at 27, and I was a pretty mature teen.
Same, I think age gaps can mean less once everyone is past the development time. A 30-year-old with a 50-year-old while uncommon isn't nearly as bad as an 18-year-old with a 38-year-old the stages of life are just too different. Career, education, romantic experience are all tied to the passing of time. At 18 you literally haven't had the amount of time needed to be stable in these areas which can lead to bigger imbalances in relationships. I put the onus on the older person to simply decline to get involved in these kinds of relationships because the older person knows first hand the changes that are experienced with aging.
True
That is because you are a woman and are hypergamous/dating up by nature. Men date down. This includes all possible fields (age, emotional stability, maturity, looks, income)
the explanation is simple
those who go for 10 year younger than them are either creepy and desperate, or they haven't grown since that age and are still teens
or all of it
Same her girl! I was honestly a very very mature 16-18 year old. And I’m not just saying that, I really was. BUT I still would not mess with anybody that young, no matter how mature they thought they were. I’m 23, and even a 19/20 year old is unappealing ! It’s especially gross to me when thinking of somebody 17 or younger. Gross gross
These guys are the grounded heroes we need in these nonsensical times.
Extremely well said. I totally agree
I love these guys. Seriously.
godamn, chill.
I agree brother
Alexander III Definitely shouldn’t get your political info from these guys lol..But I will admit it’s refreshing to see ppl on UA-cam that see things for what they are, and don’t buy the BS. It’s a damn shame that common sense commentary has become so hard to find.
Preach’s hair looks fire 🔥🔥🔥
No
RealLifeJasmine HD Yes
Facts,
@@reallifejasminehd9766 gtfo
It looks way better now.
Real Housewives is proof that age doesn't track maturity. My grandmother was raising her brother at 15, got married and had her own kid at 16, put herself through nursing school, and never thought twice about it. That was her life and it lasted 85 years with a lot of good stuff in it. Modern society infantilizes everyone.
She didn’t have a choice though
older generations didnt have a choice and most people were unhappy in their relationships and in their lives, just like in arranged marriages in middle eastern countries up to this day. my grandparents were together till my grandma died. she suffered in this relationship, he was abusive, but she didnt leave him, because she was religious + "what will people say?!". so she was unhappy all her life. stop romanticizing old times. just cause people got together at young age and were married till death, doesnt mean it was amazing. just cause someone "mans up", doesnt know any better and manages to face struggles without thinking too much about it, doesnt make the situation good.
The older generation understood the concept of DUTY and DISCIPLINE. Love was 50/50. Yet if it was for their duty or discipline, we wouldn’t be here and have structure 🤷🏽♀️
Both sets of my grandparents married because of pregnancy. They didn't love each other. My maternal grandmother was very unhappy all her life. My paternal grandfather died very early in an accident and his parents once said that maybe it was for the better because he would have never been happy with his wife (she is an insufferable person to this day).
Check video description for links to the twitter that has all of Chris D'elia's conversations.
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Can you make a video about CHAZ??
Speaking that fire as always! Love y’all
@shy boy well played
shy boy 😂👌🏽Dead
I have nothing to add to this conversation so I’m going to see my way out 😂 Hey Aba !
as a girl, when I was around 20 years old I had plenty of old guys who used to flirt and try to sleep with me and almost all of them told me that they were attracted to me because I was so mature for my age and I believed that and was convinced I was so different, sexy and smarter than girls my age lol!!! now I'm 27 and I cringe so hard when I remember that shit.. it feels awful cause I really was young and stupid and they took advantage of that
20 years olds may have mature bodies but honestly mentally most of them are not ready for sex even if they think they are. Hormones are powerful shit and it will mess with your mind and most 20 years old won't understand that. 20 year old me is just a dumb child to me now. To me a sign of maturity is when young people especially women makes the choice to wait with sex until they are in a lasting relationship.
@@littleDainolf
I mean, not all 20 year olds are like you. You have a point but the fact still remains.
I’m 28 and I get hit on by young girls a lot and tbh I’m not gonna pretend that most of them don’t always try to sleep with me as well, and I gotta admit reading your post is pretty ironic because most of the young 20 yr old girls that approach me always claim your opposite stance and try to convince me of how mature they are for there age and they don’t like guys there own age because of there immaturity lol!!!! I also cringe whenever they tell me that shit.
Did you dress and carry yourself appropriately?
@@Un1234l I never said that. What Facts are you talking about? Fact is a 14 year old female body is ready for sex, doesn't mean they should have it even though hormones are telling them to. Same goes for 20 imo. And no, not all, there are mature 20 year olds or younger.
I remember when everyone made fun of Mike Pence when he said that he would never be alone in a room with a woman w/o his wife present. That’s about as extreme a measure you can take, but with the current climate and the muddled dynamics between men and women in public and private spaces, that doesn’t seem like such a crazy idea for someone who doesn’t want his prominent position in politics threatened bc he made a woman feel uncomfortable. You could say one thing to one woman that’s ok, but to another she could take it to mean something totally different. Sometimes it’s not worth the risk.
Bernie Sanders should have followed Pence advice and not been alone with Warren. I think Pence is an extremist but that doesn't mean that wasn't a smart move. He just saw the writing on the wall.
Mike Pence was covering his bases. There’s nothing wrong with that. In the military, you see male supervisors having a discussion with and will always leave the door open if there’s a female. Sometimes they’ll call another female of rank into the room. I’ve seen civilian jobs where the manager will bring HR when they are dealing with the opposite sex.
Mike pence also calls his wife mother lol
He lacks self control and discipline
@@jayrock997 you are missing the point entirely. The idea is that even when he behaves as well as possible , that doesnt protect him from false allegations which nowadays are more than enough to ruin a man let alone a public figure. Johnny Depp is an example of this situation.
My wife is almost 10 years older than me, we met when I was 24, we've been together for 13 years and couldn't be happier.
Bro cancel this message before someone will cancel you on twitter
is that her in your profile pic?
Merle ‘s bruh u wrong for that one💀
Merle ‘s this is an underrated comment
So is she, rode the carousel for her best years then found a chump willing to buy used and discarded product at full price. Collecting from the bottom of the garbage can .... I guess that's a strategy.
i feel like at this point we all know the entire sex life of aba lol
I'm dead😂😂😂
Hahahaha exactly 😂😂
😂😂😂omg so true!
Like the back of our hands
Facts
I really love that you guys have these difficult conversations. There are honestly not many places where this is possible.
When people talk nowadays it feels like their only motivation is to sound edgy or pander. It's nice to hear other people's opinions and thought process
@@LilRobber exactly. I think it's important to value the conversation and the insights it brings, even when it's imperfect. Issues like these are complex, and to be able to witness and participate in authentic conversations like these, rather than simply resorting to the most "woke" sounding things is refreshing.
As a human science major, I have a lot of thoughts, data, and research on sexual exploitation, age, etc. My stance, I believe that 18 years of age should be mandated nationwide for both sexes and that no marriages between individuals under that age should be allowed (having grown up in a conversative community and seen the effects outside of research). Beyond that, understanding the age and developmental gap, unless there is an ethical power dynamic issue that would be of major concern where that individual that has control over a certain area of your life (ex. professor), they are free to sleep with any consenting adult. Part of being an adult, at 18 years of age, is that you are allowed to make what society deems to be "mistakes". You cannot build a society where you or public opinion determines what is best for another person who is an adult as they alone have that freedom (unless they are deemed incapable by the state due to their mental facilities).
Great comment! Thoughts on supposed "grooming" that was involved here though im reluctant to call it that.
Also why 18 specifically?
Oh I’m early
I thought this was going to be the pin of shame, but instead it ended up being something more, the pin of agreement.
ah yes a better pin than the last one.
@Aba & Preach - because there’s no way to account for every possible scenario. 18 is the age in which a person can go to war, go to jail, (should be able to smoke and drink, should be able to have sex).
Imo there’s just no way to customize it for everyone.
bro the thing with not being able to be with kids and stuff hits me hard. Even when I was younger I used to like playing with other kids that were younger then me and it all stopped when people started calling me a creep. Since then I've avoided kids as much as I can to the point where I don't even like hanging around my nieces and nephews. I love them to bits but I can't stand the thought of something else thinking I would do something "creepy" with them.
Honestly man if you know you aren’t a pedo, then to hell with what other people think they know.
@@Klobanob eh he could still be wrongfully reported and sent to jail
@@calliusgentius didn’t think of that. Good point.
It’s the nature of the environment we are in. I’m not a parent myself, but if I had a child and my child approached me and said someone was having inappropriate communication or looking at them inappropriately, I would believe my child every time. I only communicate with kids when their parents are around or when I’m working directly with other adults in charitable organizations. It’s just not worth the risk for men who are childless.
I don’t want to be put in a position where I have to defend myself when I did nothing wrong. Just like Aba and Preach state, why would I put myself in that situation. It’s going to be too difficult to come out clean and not dirty. Even when found innocent, you still have that dark cloud that will follow you.
@@williamr4053 yeah it sucks. I've had people think that I'm 'grooming' too because I played with kids at times which really triggers me. We live in a world where a man can't have fun with someone purely for the sake of having fun, as if there is some dark motive behind it.
I just got done watching the series “You” and his character did the same thing. What a coincidence 😂.
He also played a similar role in Workaholics
Damn you beat me by 12 minutes 😂
@@AFTERPROWRESTLING yea word toph
that was the first thing I thought about !!!!
THATS EXACTLY WHAT CAME TO MIND
LoL home-boy wasn’t even acting in the Netflix Series *’You’*
looool I was thinking wasn't this that dude in "you", he literally was just playing himself, I think he was even a comedian in the show wooooow.
I was wondering if someone was gonna bring it up🤣🤣
Hiding in plain sight
LOL FR
Workaholics too
Yeah I lost my Virginity at 14 to a 33 year old. Thought I was cool at the time, realized later I was used. I'm also a man.
😬
dudemynameisdebo i love how you framed it hahah beautiful... get self righteous assholes riled up first by tricking them into projecting their preconceived notions onto your statement, only to find themselves conflicted with their own morality at the end. Lol
@@jose181886 haha :D
Damn homie... want a hug?
im sorry
Chris D’elia being called a “powerful” man is the most shocking part of the video.
Whether you think he’s funny or not, he’s a successful comedian and therefore has power over his fans. Period.
I don't think Colin was standing up for Chris or disagree, he was making a joke about Chris being a B rated comic
W2 power” just means money bro. If you have lots of money you have power. And he’s white sooo... that helps ALOT 😂 smh
@@FrauStormm I hate when people say "period." Its as if you think what you're saying is inherently and undoubtedly right and there isn't any room for argument or criticism.
Anyone with a dad that can pay their way through life without ever working hard eventually end up "powerful". Entitled is more the word.
“How old is fifteen really?”
-Dave
People who never watched that stand up are gonna twist this so hard 😂
Mark Maxus If there are people out there who watched this video but haven’t seen that standup special, their opinions are invalid anyways.
Depends on the hormones in the water supply? :)
@@spbynum ...but the most invalid opinion and mentally feeble position is 100% your small minded, "...people out there who watched this video but haven’t seen that standup special..." cobblers. Kitson and Sadowitz's stand-up over the past decade is lightyears beyond what even Pryor achieved. Only bootlegs exist of either's work, no commercial releases by their own design. Yet both's shows have pushed the artform to new heights. Point being, there's always someone more clued in than yourself, with every stranger being equal, because you just don't know what you don't know.
Opiatus Okay. *I* was just joking. I don’t even know what that was but it was a bit much 😂.
Age of consent... I joined the Navy at 17 years old and turned 18 on my way back from the Persian Gulf. I was old enough to die for my country and pilot a 58 thousand ton Warship into combat, but not old enough to drink a beer Stateside? Also, I've met plenty of folks who were in their 50's who have less mental maturity than many 20 somethings; a test for mental maturity and aptitude would be great! When my son was a Senior in HS, we were at a recreational area and he saw some kids he knew from school, one girl who saw he and I talking approached and initiated conversation, when she found out I was his father she stated "I haven't seen any dads who look like you" with an expression which was difficult to take out of context... while flattered, it made me feel very uncomfortable; she was 18, however, not a road I had any desire to travel down, regardless of looks.
Power dynamic... I used to know a guy who was in his 40's who seemed to be focused on 18 year old girls, and it was primarily about power; he often cited the Bible... out of context. With that said, growing up, there were many girls in their early to mid-teens who actively perused guys in their mid 20's to early 30's... and older; obviously for sex. Those females were thoroughly used by the time they reached 20 and those fellas were no where to be found. When I was in my early 30's I dated a girl who was 22, she had already graduated from college, yet had no world experience, we had nothing in common and it was difficult to have a functional conversation; she viewed the world through a completely different lens. She would do most anything I asked, and such could have been easily exploited.
Grooming... I again reference the fella in his 40's who was focused on 18 year old girls. From what I understand, based on his own statements, he met these girls while they were under 18 and actively engaged in conversation for a year or more... essentially waiting for them to turn 18, so they were of legal age.
I had 14 year olds trying to send me pics, and I ain't even a celebrity. And the stuff that they said, and how many of them are obsessed with older men over 30, is leading to a dangerous trend.
Absolutely parents need to teach their daughter s to stop being obsessed with older men ,I think a lot of men had experience the same thing , were teenagers girls will message you even if they knw you are older then them .the leading can be absolutely dangerous since there are some sick people that will try to take advantages of this teenager girls .
That’s why you simply do not talk to them. At all. Ever.
I think its more because so many see older guys as reliable and able to give them stability where as they lack that growing up and see the guys around them and dont think they will ever be reliable.
@@Omar-kl3xp do you think that's gonna be any more effective than teaching ur sons not to prey on teens?
@@ComedyGlor you think we can tell bad people to stop doing bad things?
He hasn’t been caught he’s been accused by anonymous sources on the internet. Massive difference.
Inebriatd Unfortunately
Oh, and that automatically means he's guilty, of course. :/
Many of the sources were not anonymous.
But some of the girls actually had proof and posted message he sent them. He asked some of these girls to make out with him, come to his hotel room or offered them backstage passes to his shows. It doesn’t necessarily mean he slept with them but that’s still a very strange thing for a grown man to say to a teenager
@@mm12e3rr I was being ironic. I have no idea what happened, I hadn't heard of this case.
I always took the low ages of consent as the state recognizing the fact that 16 year olds are having sex with EACH OTHER. I never took it as giving permission to older men.
Same. Isn’t that why many state’s consent laws also include age gap laws as well. Meaning an 18 year old can sleep with a 16 year old because they’re within 2 years, etc.
@Josip yuck
@@rando8263 Women like old dudes with money. You see it everywhere. You can't handle the truth.
@Josip because an 18 and 16 are TWO years apart while 25 and 16 are like NINE years apart. its not the same
Consent means they can give permission. What the Law says?? they can give consent only to minors or ppl at same age??
Why can't y'all say consent on this video? It's kind of absurd UA-cam is demonetizing that word....
A lot of things about UA-cam are absurd and you just have to be careful.
Here I thought I was hearing wrong, especially when after the word consent came the word grooming, but of course yt doesn't understand context...
I was wondering the same thing
They only censored it sometimes. around 3:30 they say it twice without a censor so i have no clue.
6:36 they literally said it
'Grooming' is wildly being misused these days, its irritating.
I think so, too.
For sure. What Woody Allen did to his wife is grooming
Same with “Pedophile”. Many think it’s anyone under 18 (ignorance) or just don’t care. They use the term to fit a narrative out of spite.
@@kenzielaing4112 true. I told someome that pedophilia isn't someone under 18 and I got called out that I'm being a snorty little brat
I never use the word grooming but I didn’t know I used pedophile wrong
This a side note but Preach’s skin glowing.
and hair looking good too
@@dahkari2003 that fade
Summer is here
Its VASELINE🤣🤣🤣🤣
I don't think he's pregnant though.
The 2 most disposable people in societies are :
Young men
And old women.
The former are the first sent to die in wars.
The latter are invisible,always ignored.
what about old men? they're just invisible as old women.
From an evolutionary perspective, old women are extremely important actually, and are often listened to. How to raise your children, where to find/forage for different foods, how to make different foods, how to care for the sick, etc. Old women have always been important in society for these reasons.
Young men? Youre tripping they just need solid rolemodels but yall wanna be on the nuts of trash
@@mightyanthony8297 "17 women and children died in a plane crash" There's a reason you never hear about the men.
Yeah relax mate, what you’re saying is not that accurate or that deep.
U guys gotta bleep “consent”? What kinda world r we living in??? 🤦🏽♂️
He didnt give consent to the word 'consent'
UA-cam will do demonetize it. You also can't say heterosexual, sex, rape, ect. on UA-cam and still be monetized. I know - it's stupid. We really need to get the Constitution to apply to Internet. 😫 #1A #FreedomOfSpeech 🇺🇸
You can say it - you just won't get paid if you do.
Samantha Parker that’s not what freedom of speech is.. they can say the words. They just want to get paid.
Google's distopia
I don't care about the age gap as long as their both above 18, other people can't tell them what to do then 👀
smart decision. once they are legal your good to go just make sure their parents are not rich
They're*
what about couples below the age of 18 though....? 10 year olds can have relationships, and they can have sex. since neither can consent, who's the victim and whos the perpetrator? can a 10 year old and 17 year old consent? the age gap is clearly large, psychologically, but since neither can consent whats the standard we're drawing? clearly developmentally theres large difference between a 10 year old and 17 year old, just like there wold be a large mental developmental difference between a 16 year old and 30 year old.
but why does that matter? people are trying to stop people from being victims of predation. so you teach people how to identify predation. it seemed to work pretty well with the stranger danger campaigns. kids know pretty well not to get into a car with strangers. why cant they be taught that with regards to sexual consent. I mean, we teach kids sexual education for a reason, because they fuck at ridiculously young ages sometimes, so why not teach them about it, instead we just teach them, DONT FUCK ANYTHING, and all it does is forces them to be SUPER secretive about it. ashamed of it....and what happens if they fall victim to a predator...they keep it a secret. just TALK ABOUT IT. people act like sex is the worst fucking thing in the world. protect kids from it! oh the humanity! kids watching porn oh no! let them watch horror movies or graphically violent tv shows instead.
CircumcisionIsChildAbuse the difference is there is a age where ur brain is developed enough so u can make big decisions in ur life , so a child can know the ramifications of consent intellectually and just not consider it properly ,this is why we don’t let children make other big decisions , if a child is introduced to sex in the wrong way that can have profound psychological effects, so u have to wait so they can actually think about and consider what they’re doing
@@amaokoro7000 Started watching porn before i was 10 years old. knew just about everything by then. That archaic crap doesn't work in the modern world
Although it is true that many countriees have an age of consent that is lower than 18. Those countries often have also a law that forbids sexual behaviour between adults and minors. The consent law than only really counts among minors.
Exactly. Law of consent maybe 15 or 16 but anyone more than 2-4 years depending on the location can be charged as a sex offender.
Yes this has been misinterpreted badly by most people.
Exactly they dont know what they’re talking about
@@Frwill126 Not in Canada. If you are 16 you can have sex with anyone above 16, and if your are 14-15, you can only have sex with someone at whose five years older then you.
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2532909/
No, they don't. They usually only forbid sexual behavior between minors and people that have power over them like foster parents or teachers. And in the USA most states are the same with the age of consent set at 16. There are barely any states with TAOC at 18.
The question is more about: What do you want from someone who is 14-18 when you are 30 up other than sex? talk about life? share life experiences? The much younger person looks up to you and you as the older one no matter if a male or female exploit this situation.
yes!! they have a lot of power and so its manipulation..
well sometimes love finds a strange way.. A girl that went to school with me had a boyfriend at that time she was 15 and he was 23 now shes 24 and they are still together married and have a kid so I dont know what to believe anymore.
Just an example but as a beginner snowboarder I used to know a 12 year old boy who could do backflips off the kicker. You think I don't have anything to talk to him about?
Well, this situation is talking about college age girls. It’s really just two people finding each other attractive. I didn;t understand it at first, but after going to college you see that TONS of girls find guys with some level of “fame” attractive. You’d be surprised what some of these females would do for a night with a student athlete, so when it’s someone who the internet deems as good lucking, funny, and hugely popular, many college girls will just be attracted to that. Unless he is coercing them to do something they don’t WANT to do, then I don’t see anything wrong as long as they are both adults
Ya +1
I work in daycare, and I wish it was more acceptable for men to work in childcare. I've had a hard time controlling my class, and a dad will walk in and immediately get them under control.
Only problem with that is... if the kids are scared or act off.... they will tell their parent, So the male will get fired
I honestly loved the male childcare givers we had. They didn't allow the kids to get away with nearly as much as the younger female care givers did. IMO it is a good balance for all kids to experience at an earlier age. I think in the long run it would make the dynamic between females and males a lot better.
Yes more men should work in childcare
But if you can't control your class that's on you, it has nothing to do with gender
@@dragnfly138 not gonna happen
A man’s emotions are more clearly expressed in their body language, while women have very expressive faces. Women are more nurturing and caring. Men tend to need more control over their environment.
I was 18 the first time I got into a relashionship. I was a freshman at my university, she was 24 finishing her major. All good, she was a little more mature than me, sure, but everything was nice. Skip ahead to when I'm 22 kinda dating an 18 year old. That shit was a nightmare, all she talked about was horoscopes and drama and I don't know what else but I can't understand why a 40 y.o. man would want anything to do with that... There's literally not one aspect of dating an 18yo girl that is better than a girl who's in her mid twenties. With that being said, I also dont know why people care... she's 18, she's not a baby. Maybe some of y'all are just too sheltered and still had your moms cut your food for you at that age or something.
It's sex man, sex.
It’s suspect if the guy only goes for 18 year olds but I see your point
even if they’re more mature I just fundamentally don’t agree with high school seniors or freshmen on their first couple semesters of college being in a relationship with someone who is significantly older than them
I mean using your numbers a 40 year old was 22 when their partner was born and in the more common case of like 25-26 year olds dating 18 year olds that’s like a high school student dating a college graduate there’s a gigantic difference in life experience and development
@@All_Smiles27 But why is it sus? I personally feel vastly uncomfortable talking to people in that age range, to be sure, but I still think it's perfectly reasonable for someone to have (legal) preferences of 18-year-olds. Maybe he himself is regressed and connects more deeply with 18 year olds. Gross? Yeah, I'd agree. But suspect -- not so much. Remember, in his state the age of consent is 16 -- so 18 is not necessarily a 'borderline case' over there.
Bit of a tangent though: I'm from Holland, where the age of consent is 16 (with some other preconditions that have to be met too); but pretty much everyone just uses 18+ as the norm. If I met someone dating a 17-year-old, I'd still cringe, let alone a 16-year-old. In fact, I've NEVER met anyone that actually dates someone under 18 years of age (except for stories in high school of girl friends that have a 40 year old creepy as hell boyfriends). So there IS a difference between 'legal' and 'moral'. I wouldn't feel comfortable cancelling a Dutch guy for sleeping with a 17-year-old, BUT I would not be friends with that guy either.
@@groovyhoovy2606 True, that is really gross and stems from something being severely wrong with that person to connect deeply with someone half their age at 40 (regression etc). But I do think that two consenting adults have the right to have a gross relationship, if that makes sense. Who am I to say someone can't be in a toxic relationship? Or someone can't date a creep? It's one thing to find something 'wrong', but another to find something societally unallowable if that makes sense.
Marques Houston who is 38 is engaged to a 19 yr old. Leonardo DiCaprio only ever dates women aged 20-24 even though he is nearing 50.
Tis fine :)Men are attracted to fertility.
SHOCKED PIKACHU FACE LOL
hey hey I know its hard! I'm 34 ..... and i get told by a lot of guys im used up, my eggs are this and that - and hey actaullly scientifically - they are right.
But at the saem time. I never felt like my fertility was even a problem datng in the 20s because all the guys i dated.... we were triyng NOT to get pregantn.... and suddenly im 30 and its like OH YOU SHOULD HAVE BEEN A MOM - what @_@ its very confusing and its from society as a whole not really necessarily men - i get it worse from older women @_@ breed while you can - because your ability to do so is being calculated into your worth as a partner.
Yeah and none of those girls are 16
Yea so if yr 60 u gotta date a 50 year old woman? Pleasssseeeee
DiCaprio wants kids. When a woman is fifty the odds of that happening aren’t high.. So of course, biologically, and common sense wise he will choose a woman of breeding age....
Busha Busha women can breed in their early 40’s. After that then the chance of complications goes up but I’m 26 and very much still fertile for at least another decade.
the word consent has to be bleeped out? and virginity... bruh. free speech is alive and well. love it
Yep. Rights have to be EXERCISED! Do it!
That's weird how this parallels the character he played on the netflix show : You
It doesnt
When life imitates art
It doesn’t because Chris doesn’t diddle kids. These are just some depraved individuals trying to cash out on the #metoo shit with some false allegations.
Oh my god I just thought the same thing
Facts
When u said that 15 year old girls wanted to send you her photos my wind went instantly to FBI OPEN UP
I feel like preach is constantly judging me because of the way he looks in the camera
😂
@Not Sure 😂😂😂
@Not Sure wtf 🤣🤣
I appreciate you having these discussions about topics that some would find uncomfortable. I also appreciate the opportunity to see a different perspective. These conversations are an opportunity to learn and grow.
Aba’s facial expression is priceless when Preach rambling about things lol.
It's like watching two videos in one
Lol thank you for pointing that out
And vice versa lmaoo
Actually, Preach’s face is the one that’s priceless when Aba talks. Lol
"As a grown man - don’t talk to a woman" is where we’re actually headed 🤦♂️ 😂
They were teens.. Not women. Calm down.
P. Sherman Fortytwo Wallaby Lane it’s what he accidentally said, that’s what the quotation marks are there for
P. Sherman Fortytwo Wallaby Lane they’re grown and legal and adult which qualifies them as women
@@p.shermanfortytwowallabyla9488 18 years and older are adults.
@@p.shermanfortytwowallabyla9488 18 is adult and 16 is the universal age of consent.
wow its crazy how we got to a point in youtube where "consent" needs to be censored in order to get ad revenue.
My videos got demonetized for using "sp3cial needs" and "Stalingrad" and "Soldier." Yes, literally.
Consent censored sounds like Cee U Next Tuesday. That is not better. Just saying.
me doing some questionable shit at 15: WhAts ThE PrObLeM?? i KnoW waT iM DoInG
me as an actual adult looking back : yea no my brain was not fully developed there.
but would you say you were manipulated into doing that thing?
Shit, I made some pretty stupid ass choices fairly recently and I’m 40.
Able Bodied With sex by someone in their 20’s? Yes, definitely
Your brain isn't fully developed now. You grow and you learn. In a decade you will look back to some questionable shit as well
@@hussianahmed1145 lol my point wasnt that u become an adult and are suddenly immune to bad decisions.. my point was more that it seemed like the right thing to do or seemed fine but in hindsight it is obvious to me NOW that it was a poor choice/ i was not as grown as i thought.
My mom is 20 years younger then my father. I met my husband when I was 18 and he was 27. I remember our families (except my parents) being so upset. But we were happy. 16 years and 4 children later we are celebrating 15 years of marriage.
Good for u
Same my bf is 59 and im 16 but its ok he has money
@@CHICKENmcNUGGIESMydude that's a bit much
Thats creepy sorry
@@CHICKENmcNUGGIESMydude Haha...oh boy
This is so true. I began a relationship with the owner of my store. the first time in my life I approached a man, him being the owner had nothing to do with it, him being in “power” didn’t mean he took advantage. I Initiated It, and in the beginning he was very very hesitant. He was worried about how he texted me, how he spoke to me, everything. When he asked me to sign something to show consent, at first I was pissed. But after I had time to think about it, I understood, for all he knows I’m just trying to get him, sue him, use it against him. And that’s so shitty people have to worry about that simply because they aren’t attracted to someone who is on their level when it comes to employment. Or anything really.
Yes, younger people can be more mentally mature and older people can be less so, but regardless of the maturity of either individual, the legality of the situation, and each one's ability to consent, if you as an adult are specifically seeking out minors it shows you are looking for someone more likely to be pliable and manipulated and that is predatory behavior. It's also probably the case that you're unable to mentally connect with people your own age because they see through your manipulative tactics.
Yes! I think that exactly what you say is what is at the base instinct we have that something is rotten with that behavior. It just feels like a person who is predatory. I feel that way when the gender is reversed too. I don't know why guys congratulate other guys if they get with a much older woman. Maybe just because guys see it as a way to gain sexual prowess? If I found out a much older woman went after my son I'd claw her damn eyes out based on pure instinct alone without sitting down to question it and have this deep dive discussion about it. It means to me that she is a weak minded, destructive person who can't manage her adult life and needs someone who is malleable to manipulate. That younger person is at a point in life (I know this from experience) in the age group we are talking about, that NEEDS to be using this time in their life to make decisions about education, career, saving, planning their future etc. This is a crucial period for planning and preparing a foundation. I don't think having a relationship with a person who is reaching into the past to live out their high school fantasies is a healthy direction or laying a stable foundation for their future.
So your saying that anyone (male or female) who choeses to date someone older or younger, that isn't their exact same age, is by default a predatory manipulator?? 🤔
Your whack, Yo. Lmao. 😂🤣
Edit: Spelling
@rara Truth.
@@Goodpatron I didn't say anything at all to even suggest people had to be the exact age. You're obviously a very stupid and barely literate person. By the way, if you're going to edit for spelling, make sure you fix all the spelling errors idiot.
@rara My comment neither said or implied that being equal in age gives you the ability to automatically tell being manipulated. Don't call people "dumb boy" when you're too stupid to grasp basic English and instead makeup strawman arguments to fight against. And then to show how worthless you are, you suggest that they're looking for "younger girls" because they aren't corrupt or "misraised" despite the fact that there is no known problematic prevalence of corruption when girls become adults. You out yourself as a misogynist by singling out girls and claiming most are stuck up and stereotypical despite there being no evidence to support that. And in reality, because children have a much more undeveloped brain and specifically the prefrontal cortex than an adult, their ability to make logic and rational decisions is worse than an adult's, making them more likely to make poor decisions. www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3621648/
You're obviously an incredibly stupid person. Wouldn't be surprised if the people getting upset about my comment are the exact type it applies to: i.e. pedophiles. And rara is definitely an incel, he talks just like one and has an obvious disdain of women.
Preach be saying a lot when he not saying anything lol.
I love his facial expressions
ChangoSun hes kind of the out of the box thinker tho, sometimes he do be saying some abstract valid points. But yeah a lot of times hes talking out of his ass.
I support them, but sometimes the cringe is real.
He's thinking about what he wants to say rather than just blurting shit out. Because he's smart.
@@gamingsaint6238 nah, when he do speak it be straight real. He doesn't articulate the same way as Aba but if you talk the same lingo then you know what he saying.
Man's said "got caught playing on the wrong playground" 😂😂
I think its immoral when older man KNOWS the young woman is naive and he exploits that.
how is that based on age? being naive isnt unique to young woman.
@@CircumcisionIsChildAbuse being predatory isnt unique to older men
@@CircumcisionIsChildAbuse no it's not, I was speaking specifically about the situation with Chris. But it's true, an older woman can be predatory to a naive young man too. If anyone senses naivety and takes advantage in any situation, its immoral.
The only person to blame for their poor decision making is themselves.If no one was forced into doing anything,and they acted of their own volition then there isn't anything wrong.
This was a really good take on this topic. From the texts and receipts I’ve seen, Chris didn’t pursue further relations with girls once he became aware they weren’t of legal age. All I see is a standup comic on the road trying to hook up with chicks and only thinking about his sexual gratification. Sure, he was creepy and could have taken more precaution but I can’t condemn or convict a guy for trying to get laid. That ain’t a crime.
@no one that is so fucked up. No man in an establishment that checks ID to make sure patrons are legal should be able to be convicted of any crime if he happens to have sex with a minor that lied their way into the establishment. He is entitled to a reasonable expectation that all people in the club are of legal age. The girl should be prosecuted or at the very least held accountable for her criminal intent to fraud at the least and extortion at the most. The man in such circumstances should be let off with nothing happening to him because he did nothing wrong
Trying to smash isn't grooming. If you are "befriending" them and dropping flirtatious hints and gifts, though....
“It’s a loft am I in the kitchen? Am I in the living room?” 😂😂😂
Yes omgggg. This was a SUPERB metaphor
They crack me up 😂
hahah or am I on a towel on the floor ?:D
How dare you mention the word "kitchen"... You're being hateful towards women (or wherever they choose to identify as)!
You toxic, mansplaining, masculine pigs, pigletts, and pig enablers! 😂
Touche.. LMFAO!!!!
Hi, I'm a bit late but I want to add this...in many countries the age of consent is 14/15/16 etc but that concerns relationships within minors, not a minor with an adult.
Ahh im my country italy yes...im 20 and i see some 20 whit 14,even 19 whit 13 even if its illegal
And this now ,im 20 and i notice some of those
Actually I think you are thinking of “Romeo and Juliet laws” that exist most commonly in the US but also Germany for example. The Netherlands and Denmark being 16 and 15 respectively for consent for sex with adults over 18 as examples, and there are others.
Here in the States it does concern relationships with adults. In Michigan the age of consent is 16 years of age so as long the parents don't attest to it whether it's a 18 year old or older.
I’m currently in high school. I know plenty of girls that would do very inappropriate things and things that they were uncomfortable doing with celebrities, simply because they are obsessed and crush on them. I see it as unhealthy and gross, but it is a reality.
I don’t think there would be any issues if these girls were all 18, so it’s strange to me that you guys only want to address the incidents where these girls were adults. The whole reason people are upset is because he was hitting up 16 year olds on numerous occasions. Even pursuing 18 year olds fresh outta high school is creepy af. It’s legal but still creepy.
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Agreed!!! It’s super creepy that Chris on multiple occasions tried talking to high school girls. Some of the allegations are that he slept with girls as young as 16 and tried talking to girls as young as 14. If this information is true than it’s very important to this discussion. Chris D’Elia is walking the line between creepy and illegal. Once a girl said she was 16 in a text or email he may have just backed off because now there is textual evidence of him knowingly pursuing a 16 year old. So let’s not give him too much credit just yet for backing off.
Shit I had a buddy in college who was 23 and slept with a 16 year old from the same apartment building. Didn't find out her real age until after, she had said she was 20. He was freaked out and told her that was the end of it. She really didn't care, I got the impression she was not at all new to sex. Point is my buddy who certainly got around but certainly didn't prey on younger girls (this girl was at a bar illegally at midnight it's not like he went to a high school football game) felt uncomfortable because that's a normal human reaction. If a dude is waiting for girls to become of age to sleep with them and not get in trouble, that's pretty fucked up.
@@tobyfunk6858 Or his reaction is a socially conditioned one.
Age of consent is 13 in Japan? Sheesh.
they all sound 13 at any age
Wow how can a 13 year old be considered an adult
@@iiiiii7739 theyre not considered an adult...theyre considered old enough to consent
Doesn't matter all that much as the majority of young people in Japan have been backing away from relationships. This has led to a population decline as not enough couples are marrying and having children to offset the death rate among the elderly. The average female there now makes more money than a male so there is no financial incentive to marry a man any longer. Many young males are becoming lost in games and easily obtainable substitutes for sex which removes the responsibility that a real relationship requires. Studies indicate by 2100 Japan's population will be half what it is now. On the upside, their cities won't be so crowded any more.
Explains the school girl obsession.
A lot of good points Aba
I find it so relatable when Aba gets turned off at the sound of privilege🤣
Just started watching , but I wanna say, that just because something is legal, doesn't mean it's right.
Pursuing a teenager at 18 when you are well above their age is still predatory. That person is fresh out of high school with much to learn about themselves and in life.
Just because they are a "legal adult" doesn't mean you aren't a creep. They may not be baby birds, but geez, they re still just barely learning to fly.
Idk, I just had to put this out there, because I'm tired of people excusing predatory behavior just because the person is 18.
I would agree with that assessment. I get the argument that people can be emotionally mature for their age. So say a 30 year old meets an 18 year old and they have the same maturity level and hit it off. I can still see people being uncomfortable but I wouldn't say that's without question predatory. If a guy on the other hand is purposely conversing with younger girls on social media basically scouting them out, that's something entirely different. Perhaps I'm way off but that's how I see it.
I'm 34 and married and I'm still not emotionally responsible lol. I always went for a guy that was older, taller, seemed to have his shit together, and made me happy. It's been 7 years and seems to be alright. Most of the females I know went after the same thing. It's the protector warrior thing. Or maybe the daddy issues thing. I dont think this guy is predatory.
Mark Shepphard I’d be a little uncomfortable with _any fully grown adult_ that I don’t really know being around my “child”. Used air quotes because 16 year olds aren’t the most mature but are definitely capable of responsibility.
Jonathan Pascual yeah but your“child” is probably playing games for attention of high status male
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Then that means that she has issues AKA she 'doesn't know what she's doing'.
It's called hypergamy
I am 47, still play computer games every day with my mates, lol. Man never grow up, I guess, the only thing that changes is the price of their toys.
I really find it interesting with the idea that even if people are uncomfortable with something, they're unwilling to say it. I remember reading an outstanding line about this in the book The Girl With the Dragon Tattoo which was said by the villain and it's honestly a great summary of a lot of people's mentality towards these things.
The quote was: "You knew something was wrong but you came back into the house. Did I force you, did I drag you in? No. All I had to do was offer you a drink. It's hard to believe that the fear of offending can be stronger than the fear of pain. But you know what? It is."
I think it really says something that some people would rather just deal with things or go along with something because they're afraid to offend someone they don't even know.
I love how consent gets bleeped out. Consent is a curse word now? lmfao
UA-cam is a hell of a drug.
@@Orapac4142 Drug is a hell of a UA-cam.
Consent and virginity are bleeped out? Wtf
Hell is a youtube of a drug
You can thank Susan Wojcicki
Drake also has a thing for the young girls as well and no one seems to mention that.
Talking to the girl from stranger things was weird tho. She was like 14.
Idk about the younger women drake was with or the age range of that.
But the Millie Bobby Brown thing and the rep of Hollywood in general allowing ppl with cases and minors like minors minors. Has me iffy.
What proof do you have ... and who’s accused him of rape
Yeah remember the whole millie bobbie brown thing? That was weird...
@@griselgriselda2901 guilty lol
Who did you think his music was for?
"How old is 15 really?" Dave Chappelle
That whole bit is perfect for this kind of debate?
One of his funniest standups!
@rima when it's a man...
Generally speaking men fall in love with women that are around them and normally speaking most people hang out with their own age groups. There have always and always will be circumstances where a man falls in love with a younger woman or vice versa but if the older person actively places themselves with younger people and takes advantage of his placement to procure sex with young women then it is predatory. No productive man should even have time to be on Tik Toks or Snap apps and it is indicative of an addict to improperly allocate their time to feed their addictions.
Its too bad this doesn't have more upvotes because this is the only good comment from here. You hit the nail on the head.
lol the look on Preach's face when Aba said " ive been through it" you can tell for a split second he's like uhhh bruh
Preach > Aba
Preach > Aba
@@lazlow9640 This isn't a "who > who" thing. Aba and Preach both bring different things to the table. Their dynamic is what makes this channel so enjoyable to watch.
Aba is arguably more eloquent and Preach is a bigger personality but they are both intelligent and educated so they bounce ideas off each other.
My grandma was at least 10 years older than my grandpa. They loved each other so much💯. Grandpa still doesn’t know how to live life without her🥺
@Justine Buda and you're saying that to say what?
@b What's normal?
He’s saying large age differences in relationships are normal
@b I'd say more that it can be healthy & both parties can be happy.
Was your granny 15 when your grandpa was 25?
I'm black man. I have to put more time and thought into the things that I say, do and how I navigate this country. If I don't I could end dead or in jail. Just throwing this out as an example. Good conversation fellas.
Jesus fucking christ dude keep crying
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In pre-school I had a male professor. My mom told me recently that many of the parents at the time were against having a male pre-school professor because it looked creepy. End of the story, he did nothing wrong and the parents no longer thought it was creepy.
I really appreciate how y'all can talk about incredibly nuanced situations with such tact. Keep killing it guys.
We can lie to ourselves as men but no matter what, if your a famous UA-camr or a plumber the type of woman you’ll attract will be directly tied to your earning abilities/status. Hypergamy ain’t fair.
Thanks kanye
Hahaha. I fuxx wit your handle. "KANYE EAST" 😂👍🏿
hypergamy is total fair and real balance. because there are other types of women for you to attract. Being a hot sexy woman is the female equivalent to being a rich man. It is an equal asset. A mans looks don't matter as much to a woman because, a man's looks don't hold much value to a woman's biological needs.
@@tiffwilson3141 The difference is men are more fair with who they date. We give more women chances than the other way around. Have you seen the OKC study regarding perceived attractiveness and messaging habits? Most women overrate themselves, and they find over 80% of males unattractive... Men were much closer to 50% in their evaluations... So, unfortunately no it's not equal. Also, men have a wider variety of "types" compared to women, so most women have a fair shot if their ego isn't through the roof.
Hypergamy goes both ways though. There are men who marry "up" too.
He literally had a role on the 2nd season of "YOU" in which he took advantage of young girls.
Bruh I was literally thinking this. He never got out of character!
so
lol literally was saying the same thing, it’s crazy lol
Such a in depth topic, in NZ the age of consent is 16, but its generally frowned upon for someone in their 20's to date a 16 y/o
I remember when I was in high school...late 80s, and I read an article in my mom's issue of Cosmo (bathroom reading material), and there was an article that basically said that women tended to hit that 18 yr old level of maturity more quickly then men, but tended to stay around that level for far longer.
That may have had something to do with my attraction to "older" women, marrying a 34 yr old woman when I was 23. It seems to have worked since we'll be celebrating our 22nd anniversary in September.
It always seemed, to me, that the people that matured "early" were the ones that had fairly rough lives as children or teens.
And you would be right!
"Maturity" comes from learning, and learning comes from experience. There is no "Magical Learning" that occurs in human beings due to an arbitrary passage of time.
yooo i can see that....social media doesnt help one bit either... encourages immature behavior
Wow, congratulations on celebrating 22yr of marriage. ❤️
When I was 17 I was involved with a 40 year old man. I had already moved out of my parents house. I worked with him and we started becoming physical. He was the first guy I was ever with. I wasn't looking for love or marriage. I just really liked him. When I turned 18 and wanted to be more open about the fact that we were seeing each other that was when I found out that he was actually seeing 2 other women who were actually closer to his age, so having an open relationship was still a problem for him but he didn't want to end the "relationship" and I wasn't looking for commitment. So, I still continued to see him until I was almost 20. He called me stupid at work one time. I decided I wasn't going to continue giving someone that thinks I'm stupid blow jobs. So that was when it ended. I don't think that was the best decision I ever made but I don't feel like I was manipulated into something I didn't want to do.
Good for you! I’m glad you left.
A 40 year old person should not be involved with a 17yo teenager weather you consented or not. It's wrong and you wouldn't want it for your own child. The majority of
17yo don't desire to be in relationships with middle aged men, and we shouldn't normalize it. The rule is 18+ by then you should be able to make your own decisions and face the consequences of what you consented to.
I'm glad you have the mental fortitude to think for yourself and take responsibility for your actions. Personally I don't believe that either of you did anything wrong. Be well.
@@cosj4959 It's wrong according to who exactly?
You weren't manipulated. Don't let people convince you otherwise
I think it has more to do with admiration. These girls would never look twice at a regular guy, plumber, whatever, with the same age. They idealize these celebrities, and what its like to be with them. Then when they realize, the man is using his celebrity to F....k, they feel like he took advantage of him. Well, you were chasing fame too, booboo.
Facts.
Why does evrtyone use plumbers as examples? Do you know how much a union plumber.makes? 48 an hour on average.non union plumbers are prob 35 an hour on average. -from a union plumber
Yeah young girls idolize celebrity. It doesn't negate from the fact of a power unbalance, And every single woman I've talked to, who in their youth who have been with men 35+ say that they regret it deeply. You have no idea how niave girls 21 and under are. And that is why these men are interested.
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Because women tend to not look at plumbers. There are actual articles proving this where women do not care about them because they don't have a college degree when they went to college even though they are making 6+ figures. Women tend to not be logical sooooo not much else to say about this. Women think with emotions rather than logic.
Dont women look for someone in power??
I'm a father, and it saddens me that one day my son will put his army soldiers away and never play with them again... but maybe one day he'll have a kid that wants to play.