Saw a nuzlocke cup where cynthia ended the dreams of many (some lost at the same time to her Garchomp who was at 30% hp who just revenge swept their team)
the Elite 4 at least have the affection mechanic, as i've seen various mons of theirs survive from 35% hp, and then be one shot the next turn after a heal.
@@tobysceptiman7058 You mean the beep sound effect? I just went and checked the gameplay and that's the only thing I've noticed. Even then, the HP bar in the originals didn't really affect the theme that much unlike gen 5.
@@Daniel328DT they were talking about how Cynthia was so broken back in DPP that all they could hear was the song adding the sound of the low health, and I agree. If she didn't one shot you, you were at low health 80% of the time.
"The trainer who has been known to crush dreams in a single battle, and many still fear to this day... you take a step forward, and there she is. You now have only one final objective... defeat Cynthia."
me: switches to steelix (immune to poison jab) then switches to togekiss (immune to earthquake) then back to steelix and back to togekiss and so on until she ran out of PP on all her attacking moves. REALLY should have given her iron head instead of poison jab, not much better but at least nothing is immune to iron head.
"It's not the strongest that survive, nor the smartest, but the one that best adapts to change" ~Cynthia's Garchomp after learning Poison Jab in the generation with fairy types
Fun fact: Cynthia’s team has perfect IVs, all EVs In stats that competitive players use in sets, and competitive movesets. Either have max affection on all your team or make peace with your goat god. Edit: alright I get it, you people worked around it with other stuff. Throw me under the bus why don’t you :(
That smile before she sent out her spiritomb was not a smile for an entertaining battle...... That's the smile of someone who is adding someone to her body count
The cinematic climax my battle with her this time around had... It was down to her Garchomp, and she'd KO'd half my party already. A dragon claw scraped away most of my Torterra's hp, but he held strong. Didn't even get him down to one hp. But it was plenty for Overgrow to activate, and even if Wood Hammer's recoil didn't exist, Garchomp's rough skin was enough to scrape away the last of Bogard's hp. Such a cool moment, seeing both of our aces go down simultaneously.
Lmao in my situation it was only her garchomp left as well and she had already sword danced twice but torterra survived via friendship and kod w wood hammer as well, would have been swept otherwise
Her Garchomp was running through all of my weakened Pokemon even without swords dance. My only fresh Pokemon was my Garchomp, but he was 3 levels lower. I knew her dragon claw would OHKO, so I switched in Staraptor first for the intimidate. I tanked the dragon claw and finished her off with my own. Truly poetic.
Remembering how the remake announcement made me afraid that they'd nerf her Learning that she's just as, if not more, capable makes me smile. Here's to a whole new generation of kids who get to learn the true meaning of fear
@@Alexgodofwar5662 honestly same i mean other than the fact milotic took forever to kill her team was fairly easy atleast her garchomp was it went down with one ice punch from abomasnow since it used swords dance first. If anything garchomp was the easiest part. If the older version is anything like this one i don't see how she is so scary.
All of the Sinnoh dragon types are creators Dialga = creator of time Palkia = creator of space Giratina = creator of distortion Garchomp = creator of HELL
Dialga creator of time Palkia creator of space Giratina creator of distortion Garchomp creator of suffering Arceus creator of the end Me/Us: you can't run from a trainer battle... Our Minds: Well I sure in the hell can try dammit. 😂😂
I've always been a fan of Wormadam. So in this game, I've had one on my team ever since I had access to the honey trees and got a Burmy. It was my main mon, being able to destroy anything if it set up Quiver Dance, but oft being destroyed just as quickly itself. Nonetheless I raised it as my own. But when the Cynthia battle finally came up, I knew it was a bit unrealistic to bring her into a battle that brutal. So I went in with my other mons, and got beat in a close match. At this point, I thought I had nothing to lose. I might as well just try something fun and drastic. Hey, what if I could win with just my darling Wormadam? That'd be funny. And it was. I sent out Wormadam first on my second attempt. Luckily, Spiritomb couldn't do literally anything against a Bug/Steel type with Sucker Punch and Shadow Ball. This left my Wormadam safe to set up Quiver Dance... six times. She now had enough strength and speed to outspeed and one-shot all of Cynthia's team. And she did. Six turns, four Bug Buzzes, Two Psychics, and it was done. Wormadam alone had beaten Cynthia. Moral of the story: Fight with the Pokemon you love. Love will find its way to victory.
I exclusively build Ice type teams when I play these games. It makes some of the earlier gyms a bit tougher, but the dragon gyms are all late game and I breeze past them. I thought Cynthia wouldn't be too tough since her biggest threat can be taken out with any decent Ice attack. Big fucking mistake. I started with Weaville who was able to freely get 3 Swords Dance's off against Spiritomb then proceeded to sweep Cynthia's entire team. I got up to Garchomp and was confident my Jolly Weaville would just outspeed it despite the level disadvantage. So it turns out Cynthia has a Jolly, max IV and EV Garchomp. He proceeds to sweep half my team including my Weaville. No biggie, I send out Mamoswine and use Ice Shard for priority. Of fucking course Garchomp is holding a Yache Berry. Ending up having to blow multiple max revives to finally bring it down with my final pokemon (an Abomasnow also with a priority Ice Shard). This max speed Garchomp was ridiculous and almost wiped me, and this is after I cheesed through the other 5 Pokemon on her team. It legitimately OHKOed on every single attack against my Pokemon. Thank god for priority moves
Well that Garchomp is not max speed evs, it has 204 spd evs, making it the second fastest Pokemon league enemy with 212 actual speed, the fastest one is the Alakazam with only 252 speed evs (reaching like 230 ish) but still Garchomp has the 252 atk (making it have 238 actual atk) and the rest went into its bulk with 52 hp
I will never forget Batbird the Crobat. He tanked 3 Garchomp hits, giving me time to revive most of my party, allowing us the win on our first try Your sacrifice was not in vain soldier.
@@r34dood Lol, I named most of my Pokémon based on cartoon and anime characters. Others I gave never nicknames based on pop cultural things or based on their looks. Simba the Luxray, Sora the Togekiss, Titan the Staraptor, Lyric the Kricketune, Shadow the Weavile, Malware the Rotom, Nemo the Manaphy, the list goes on!
I was heading into this battle prepared to take her down. Remembering the trauma she gave me as a child back in 2007. Now 14 years later, I was much more experienced in battling. Knew all the typing advantages. All was going well until her garchomp came out. I thought I was prepared for it. Boy was I wrong. As soon as that garchomp came out, it swept through my whole team. It out sped everything I had. I almost had it beat when I attempted to use ice fang on it with my floatzel. Of course, it has to miss and garchomp got off a swords dance. From there it was over. I used everything I can to try and beat it. Revives, max revives, full restores, max potions, no matter what combination of healing I did to try and counter her garchomp, none of it worked. And just like when I was a child, I lost to Cynthia once more. I beat her on my 2nd attempt, but just barely. All of my team members were down except for my Torterra who was at full health. Garchomp got 2 swords dance off prior to me getting him in though, so I had little to no hope of him surviving anything. Luckily, prior to switching in Torterra, my floatzel got off a crunch, which luckily lowered its defense. Floatzel went down, but his work would not be forgotten as my Torterra lived an earthquake by 1 HP thanks to affection. My Torterra landed it’s own earthquake on it, KO’ing garchomp from a little less than half health. If floatzel never got that defense drop from crunch, I definitely would’ve lost again. I can honestly say I have never had this much trouble with any champion since I was a kid. Coincidentally, it was against the same champion who gave me troubles as a child and still did at 23 years old. I haven’t rematched her yet in these games, but when I do, I know the even bigger threat that I’m up against this time. I will update this comment once I battle her for the 2nd time. Until then, I’ll be preparing for her
Holy shit what a madlad, honestly makes me feel bad for picking piplup as a starter: but at the same time I'm happy I'm going to battle her with my favorite mons regardless of all odds (managed to pull a good strategy so far, wish me luck lmfao)
@@bashartz yeah man. I went into this game with the intention of using my original team that I assembled back in gen 4. Regardless of the underground pokemon, I still wanted to use my og team. You got this man, just gotta strategize a bit when it comes to Cynthia
In the weeks leading up to this game, everyone kept making a fuss about how Cynthia would probably be easier. Today's kids are gonna have it a helluva lot harder than we ever did, that's for certain.
@@Blablablarandomguy they didn't have to deal with AI clicking moves randomly (DP) or a Garchomp with a minus attack nature (Platinum). Even with max friendship, remake Cynthia is miles harder.
@@albabimam1114 Yeah, I played through Diamond back in the day and can say for certain that even with my team having viable natures of their own with moves complimenting them with items helping them out this go around, this was harder even with the friendship mechanic, good lord
People thought it would be easy because of fairy types, but i always knew it wouldn't. Garchomp can learn poison jab and iron head, there was no way it would be that easy. Most of fairy types are slow
BDSP may not have been the remake I wanted but it certainly gave me closure. I never beat the original Pearl legitimately I had to cheat to beat her and by the time Platinum came I never bothered with the originals. Now almost 15+ years later I face her again as a proper and better Trainer and finally come out on top legitimately. Thank you BDSP for giving me the second chance.
The fact that Cynthia and E4 have actual competitive teams make them more difficult than in the original-. It’s actually nuts. I’m planning on doing a nuzlocke of this game after my first playthrough, and good lord I’m going to be overleveling for this fight. No questions asked. x’D
Nah, I think this is a bit weaker tbh. Obviously they had the base of a fantastic song, but this version feels kinda… neutered? At least in certain parts anyways. I dunno, just feels a bit less intimidating.
This theme being remade to include more spacy synths makes me like this because it still has the original grounded instrumentals with the spacy sounds that remind you of the theme of the legendaries
@@MariOmor1 same funny enough I went in with a under level team took my chances and ran with it two brave birds later thx to crit on the second one and garchomp goes down. Victory is mine but it took like an hour on the battle alone cause I had to strategize due to my under-levelness.
@@bestbro7773 I stalled the everloving hell out of her Garchomp with a Staraptor/Dusclops swap. Baited Earthquake with Dusclops while switching out to Staraptor, who Intimidated. Then back to Dusclops for Pressure. She still nuked 5/6 of my team because she had gotten x4 with Sword Dance, but she had burned up her strongest moves in the process. Empoleon brought me the win by tanking her full power (without triggering friendship) and counterattacking with Ice Beam. It was amazing.
I must say... I've got overconfident in this battle, and of course, Cynthia whiped out my whole team lmao. The game was so easy until the league, that I thought "meh, I won't gonna farm for lvl (my team was lv 56~58)" but when I saw that every pokemon had an item, I ended up like "WHAT???". Was a very fun battle tho
As someone who never played the originals (part of the main reason why I really wanted to get BDSP), I felt the same way! "Well I breezed through the gyms and Team Galactic with very little resistance, this should be no problem". Boy, was I ever wrong.
The difficulty curve spikes up a fair bit between the final gym and the league. So if you’re new, it might be a surprise when you get to the elite four only for the challenge to ramp up when the game up to that point has been relatively easy (or not too challenging).
I felt a little overleveled, sweeping through Volkner like it was nothing, and I did the same to Aaron. Then Bertha came out, K.Oed one pokemon, had me a little shook. Then Flint came in and changed me with that Drifblim. Only that Drifblim. After that I kinda just went to Lucian with a blood list and swept him with a little luck
After breezing through this entire game, I was definitely not expecting the elite 4 and Cynthia to be one of the most challenging experiences in my entire time playing Pokémon. They’re so insanely strong, and it makes me wish the rest of the game was like this. Cynthia and her competitive strats make her up there with red and ultra necrozma as one of the toughest fights in the series
At a competitive stand point yes Cynthia has dethroned Red, though when it comes to levels both of them have lvl 88 Pokemon as the highest then you remember Red uses a Pikachu.
Technically, not a complete switch to the Platinum team. She has a Porygon-Z in her final Rematch. Even with just one single appearance, I can confidently say that Porygon-Z has made its place as one of the best Pokémon of Cynthia. In fact, somehow I feel replacing her Spiritomb (one of her most iconic Pokemon) with Porygon-Z just makes her platinum team so much better because Porygon-Z complements her team so well. So Porygon-Z, Roserade, Lucario, Togekiss, Milotic and Garchomp. This would be her strongest team.
I went into this with zero level grinding, and a plan to set up and sweep with Togekiss. Lead with Luxray, set up light screen, then take out Spiritomb with physical moves. Togekiss lives a sludge bomb and froze Roserade with tri attack, then maxed out my special attack with nasty plot. Togekiss takes out everyone until I get hit by Garchomp's crit poison jab. Then my team gets swept. But my last Pokemon Honchkrow stole the show at the last second, because she used swords dance the same turn I used foul play. Foul play does more damage the higher the opponent's attack stat is. So she made my foul play powerful enough to one shot her Garchomp. Crazy fun battle!
@@christopherhewitt84 bad memory, forgive me. I took out the Spiritomb with my luxray, then froze her roserade with tri attack. Then while roserade was frozen, I set up. Spiritomb was gone so quick I forgot about them.
Pokemon Diamond was my first ever Pokemon game, i asked for one of the remakes for Christmas and my parents who didn't really know about it bought Brilliant Diamond... These songs bring nostalgy tears from me... When i hear them i wish i could go back to those good old blissful days...
I have been a Pokemon fan since I was a child, but I did not play the main videogames until two years ago. Since then, I have been playing competitive battles in a weekly basis, reaching master ball rank without any troubles every month, and I have participated in the official online tournaments getting decent results. I am far from being the best but I consider myself experienced in competitive battles and teambuilding. When this game came out, I was so excited to try it. Although I was playing in a casual way, I tried to keep my team as balanced as possible: levels 60-65, my mons will cover each other weaknesses, competitive movesets but without optimal EVs and IVs (they don't really matter unless you are doing a nuzlocke or participating in tournaments). When the time come to face Cynthia, I finally wanted to see if the legends were true. I thought that players were probably over-exaggerating because they were inexperienced in battling when they were child. Oh boy, I was wrong. They were right all along. Cynthia destroyed me in my first battle. I genuinely thought I was facing a real person in masterball: their mons were properly trained with good coverage moves, optimal EVs and IVs and she was doing intelligent switches when she was in disadvantage. She has to be the strongest trainer in the whole franchise. I ended up beating her and her Garchomp in the second battle using a common strategy used in competitive double battles: intimidate spam haha.
Fanbase: THE NEW GAMES ARE TOO EASY! WE WANT CHALLENGE! Game Freak and ILCA: *gives the League trainers competitive teams* There’s your damn challenge! Fanbase: *Are saying the League is too hard*
That's basically Pokemon fans in a nutshell. Never satisfied at anything. Hell, I've found people ragging over legends Arceus because there's no voice acting. I don't even WANT voice acting, I feel like it would make the game worse
A couple years ago I found your channel looking up Cynthia's theme. Today I get to listen to her updated/remastered theme, once again, on your channel. Thanks for always uploading Pokemon music throughout the years! Happy to be subbed for over six years now :)
I built my team throughout Brilliant Diamond knowing I had this battle coming. Yet I was still so unprepared and she destroyed me. Grinded until I was "ready". Had a full team with only her Garchomp left. It very quickly wiped out most of them. In steps my Crowbat, the real MVP. Manages to take a few hits and evade enough for me to force her full restore and then lower its HP again. Crowbat feints which leaves my Garchomp that is 1 level lower than hers. Knowing she would out speed me I needed a miracle, quick claw didn't. She hits me with a dragon claw after having sword danced. I almost cried when it popped up "Garchomp held on so you wouldn't feel sad". One dragon claw of my own and she was finally beaten. This battle is the first battle to give me Red vibes from when I was a young kid playing Pokemon Gold.
She's the only one who made me genuinely worried about losing in Brilliant diamond and I lost at first, my pokémon were underleveled even though I ended the E4 quite easily 😔😔
@@skainphi yeah that happened in platinum too, Barry dethroned red as the strongest trainer but red made a comeback with a level 88 Pikachu in HGSS. So next remake might be Johto where red will return with a lv 100 Pikachu??
A summary of my fight with Cynthia: Spiritomb: Took a few Dazzling Gleams from Togekiss but it went down: Roserade: OHKOed by Glaceon. Tension is still high because I feel as though I'm being lured into a false sense of security. Lucario: Now this guy have me war flashbacks to Maylene. She was the hardest Gym Leader I ever faced in Sinnoh and her Lucario was MONSTROUS. I wanted vengeance against the Lucario kind for my poor Vulpix getting constantly murdered by Maylene's Lucario, so I sent out Ninetales. I get Lucario down to red health, but Cynthia then switches to... Gastrodon: I've been dreading this thing for my whole playthrough. Perhaps even more than Garchomp. Why? Well, it was my main grinding Pokémon in the Grand Underground for a long while and it would always destroy my team. And it's a vulky Water/Ground Type, presumably with Earthquake and my only Grass Type attacks are Grass Knot and Ninetales' Energy Ball. I even gave Ninetales a Rose Incense just to boost The Flamethrower that I meant to hit Lucario with did nothing and then I found out it had Leftovers? Oh. This is going to suck. I selected Energy Ball, preparing for the worst, AAAAAAAND- it was a OHKO. Biggest anticlimax of my playthrough. Milotic: Pachirisu was my main 'mon to deal with her and we pretty much reached a stalemate. Scald wasn't doing anything to Pachirisu, Thunderbolt wasn't doing anything to Milotic. So I thought "This is going to take a while." I thought I could perhaps get Cynthia to waste all her Full Restores on Milotic, but then she started using Recover, so I switched to using Super Fang. Super Fang, Recover, Super Fang, Recover. Rinse repeat. Then I stopped using Super Fang when it was in yellow health and risked using a Thunderbolt. If I didn't hit, then Milotic might have used Scald this time and knock Pachirisu out. But Thunderbolt was enough and Milotic went down. Lucario: it was still red health so I thought I'd shake things up and use Lopunny. Cynthia uses a Full Restore. Lopunny uses Drain Punch and gets it down to yellow health. Then weirdly it uses a stat buffing move instead of actually attacking and I finish it off. Which is exactly how won against Maylene. Garchomp. I made my mind up. I wanted to beat Garchomp with my Starter. So I used the rest of my team to whittle him down. Glaceon fainted to use up its Yache. I tried to Ice Beam it with Empoleon, but Garchomp outsped and Earthquaked it to death. Cue montage of Garchomp slaughtering Empoleon, Pachirisu, Togekiss and Lopunny. Lopunny survived getting OHKOed twice with one HP, but then when I used Strength, Garchomp had Rough Skin???? Bye, Lopunny! During this massacre Garchomp used Swords Dance and it gave me Maylene flashbacks (again) of getting swept faster than I could revive my team. And just when all hope seemed lost: "Peppy avoided the attack with your shout!" Ice Beam AAAAND it's over! PEPPY, SWEETHEART, MY BELOVED STARTER!!!!!! YOU DID IT! AAAAAAAH!!!!
My starter in my second playthrough is also called Peppy, lol. Mine is a Turtwig. And you're absolutely right about Maylene, her Lucario can sweep. Only beat her after my Torterra learned earthquake.
This champion was the first ever one to ever actually beat me (i usually over-level) and i had to sit there and contemplate my life choices to ignore all the warnings about this particular champion. Well Done Cynthia you terrifying being- well done inducing me with fear for your rematch
Here's everyone talking about her Garchomp tearing up everyone. Bro, my Nuzlocke was swept away in one sentence. "The opposing Lucario used Nasty Plot!"
I just come from listening to Volo's theme. I must say, there is indeed a resemblance there. The Pokemon company really pulls off that they are related.
I just finished Shining Pearl and have come here to pay my tribute to this amazing Game, and this amazing Champion. Cynthia creamed me four times before I managed to 3v1 her Garchomp via intimidate cheese before Napoleon the Empoleon finished that monster of a Garchomp off. Seriously, Cynthia was one my first white-out in... I literally cannot remember when. As someone who hasn't played Gen 4 until now, I thought Cynthia was a bit overrated. *I was wrong.*
Fun fact: Her Milotic has a flame orb and the unique ability to to super-buff defense stats when afflicted with a status condition. So if your sweeper Luxrays are getting bullied by it, that's why.
@@AlldaylongRock actually it's max hp and max DEF, on top of a flame orb. It's insane. It's absolutely insane. To give a clearer idea, if an Electivire gets burnt by Scald, it does only 20% damage to this Milotic with Wild Charge. And this thing has recover. And mirror coat
@@nishant9289 Tbf Milo has great base SpDef. And then punishes special attackers with Mirror Coat, just so it then shrugs off the damage with Recover.. That thing is thicc😂 They went hard with this Cynthia team
One of my biggest fears was that they would mess up Cynthia's battle theme: I'm so happy that they got her theme and battle right. It's super hard and the music sounds incredible. Well done ILCA!
My lumineon some how dodged 2 earthquakes so they yache berry activated an ice beam did a quarter then she set up swords dance then she earthquaked lumineon dodged it then she healed ice beam did half then I dodged a second earthquake and then next turn I finished it off with a second ice beam that was more lucky then when I froze her garchomp with my azumarill in my platinum playthrough
Yup, literally the one and only Time I’ve ever lost to a champion of of fracking course Cynthia, surprised yes but nope not really and took a bite from a bullet to fight her for vengeance 😤, most worth it, god I love this game and champion 👏
People online: Yeah, Cynthia isn't that strong when you consider other Champions. Cynthia during her interview for the upcoming remake: And I took that personally.
1:20 Ah yes, the part where Reshiram makes a cameo and howls alongside the music. Gotta love it In all seriousness, who would have thought that bringing 2 layers of Spikes would actually put Garchomp in just enough health to get 2HKO by my Gyarados's +1 Waterfall ? To think those Spikes had beaten Spiritomb when it switched back in while it had red health... Glalie, your sacrifice was well worth it !
@meta527II Up to three times actually. Getting 3 layers of spikes is easier said than done, but if you can do it, grounded Pokémon loses a quarter of their health when switching in.
This doesn't hit as hard in the remakes but it still fills you with dread as you know you are facing off against the strongest champion in the entire franchise.
Diamond/Pearl Cynthia: Not very balanced. Platinum Cyinthia: It was nerfed but...STILL HARD Brilliant Diamond/Shining Pearl Cynthia: HOLD MY PERFECT EVs, IVs, AND MY HELD ITEMS
I’m not ashamed at admitting it took me 6 tries at beating Cynthia. When I was a Kid I had the help of Palkia so it didn’t take as long as it did. Plus a as kids you wanna have the cool Pokémon on my team (don’t try and say Dialga’s better, I don’t care). This time around I went in with the team I felt had the best chance at victory in the first try, plus I’ve had this team since the beginning; Infernape, Luxray, Crobat, Staraptor, Roserade, and Gastrodon. With this team I was able to easily beat the Elite Four with no problems on my first attempt and the attempts after (slight problem with Lucian by my own part). Cynthia’s Spiritomb is the obstacle meant to wear down PP, and if you’ve got a Pokémon that can’t take more than 2 hits from Spiritomb, you’re certain to meet your end. I lost to Garchomp 4 times, and Lucario once. She has perfect counters for each of her Pokémon, if there’s a type disadvantage facing her, she WILL take it down, or bring it close to down forcing you to heal before the next Mon. If Lucario is able to pull off a Nasty Plot, or Garchomp pulls of a Swords Dance and you don’t have a plan… Accept defeat… it’s game over. They’re faster than you, my fastest member is Crobat and it had 200+ speed at the time, and that stat’s not boosted by its nature. At the 6th try, I just wanted to beat Cynthia and play the postgame, so I ended up using Battle Items to beef up my Luxray and single-handedly use him to take down her Pokémon. I used X Sp. Def to withstand Spiritomb’s Sp. Atks while I set up, X Speed to ensure I was the fastest no matter what Pokémon she used, and X Attack to beef up Luxray’s already great Attack and sweep her team.
It was when I was listening to this song that I realized something. The way they made Volo's theme sound in Pokémon Legends: Arceus, it sounds enough like its own song to sound like Cynthia's theme has bits taken from Volo's theme, instead of the other way around. If that didn't make sense, it sounds a bit more like Cynthia's theme is the remixed one, instead of Volo's. And I suppose that makes sense, given that Volo is Cynthia's ancestor.
Welp i think its easy to say that this is now the hardest battle in the entire franchise, I knew I had a damn good reason to be terrified of this battle after that hellish Elite 4
I cheesed the battle with potions and revives like a filthy casual, no EV training and no real strategy, but the highlight for me was how my shiny Chimeco took her Milotic like a champ 😢. I found the little Chingling the first time I entered Mt. Coronet, it didn't even register in my brain for the first seconds that it was a shiny (Chingling has a very lame shiny, almost identical to the original), and almost hit run... but the delayed reaction in my brain told me I heard the spark. I went to a wiki to confirm it was shiny, and still with doubts and only normal Pokeballs at my disposal, I catched it. I was so happy, so many years of countless random wild Pokémon pestering me in caves finally paid off, I got a full odds post-gen 5 shiny without even hunting... ...and when no one in my team was able to stand against Cynthia's Milotic, this little now Chimeco was there to save the day (with a little cheese, but still). Sorry, this is one of the few times I really got attached to a Pokémon, I get teared up a little bit
@@wikiuser92 Leon's team isn't built for competitive play, and doesn't use held items. Cynthia's is and does. She's the superior trainer, despite what the anime tells us.
As a child, I never managed to finish the original Diamond, Pearl and Platinum games. I never got past the fifth gym. English is not my mother tongue so obviously as a child I didn't know what to do in these games a lot of the time. But still, they meant a lot to me. Pokémon as a whole meant the world to me back when I was about 7 through 9 years old and it is still something that I hold very dear. But I never played any of the mainline games after Platinum or before Diamond and Pearl. When I read that these remakes where coming out, I couldn't wait. It had been 11 years since I last played the original games, but I could not have been more excited. This remake was a very nostalgic trip down memory lane, especially the first half of the game, since I never got the sixth gym badge. Most of it was much easier than when I was a child, but then came the Elite Four. I actually lost the first two times, perhaps even three times, I don't exactly remember. The highest Elite Four Member I got to was Lucian. But today, on my final attempt, I reached Cynthia. And what a fight it was. It didn't even go that bad, until she brought out her Garchomp. She got a couple of Sword's Dances off and swept the majority of my team, mainly with Earthquakes. But I brought a whole bunch of revives, all kinds of potions and revival herbs. Floatzel managed to do about a third of damage with an Ice Beam. I let Garchomp KO my Floatzel to revive my Dialga (for a possible Roar of Time), and then let her KO my Dialga to revive my Floatzel, and so on for a couple of rounds, to stall out the Earthquakes. Then came a round when she did not manage to KO one of my pokémon (pretty sure my Floatzel), and that must have been exactly the buffer that I needed to revive an extra pokémon. Not many rounds after that, it was my Dialga against her Garchomp. I knew that I would either manage to hit her with a Roar of Time this round, or it was over. I wanted to end it, as I knew my revives would run out. So I decided to try to get Dialga to do a Roar of Time. I clicked Roar of Time, turned the sound off, closed my eyes as I couldn't even bare to watch anymore, and... Somehow, someway, my Dialga managed to pull off the Roar of Time. I saw it when I opened eyes, and against my expectations, Garchomp's health bar turned orange, then red, and then she fainted. She was gone. I could not believe it. Because I had my eyes closed for a few seconds, I'll never know if Dialga somehow outsped her insanely fast Garchomp, or if Garchomp wanted to get another Sword's Dance in, or if her attack missed somehow, or if Roar of Time is a priority move without me knowing it (if that was the case I could have beaten her way quicker if I knew that (don't know if it even actually is a priority move, though). but all that matters now is that we won, my team and I won. I was so happy that I cried happy tears all through the Hall of Fame and the Credits sequence. It's been a few hours and I'm still overcome with joy that I finally managed to beat the game I never managed to beat as a child. I still cannot believe that I, who never even beat the sixth gym as a child, have defeated Cynthia on my first attempt.
Captain Falcon, I’ll never forget your sacrifice…your life for the life of my abomasnow was not made in vain. You were the greatest Staraptor a trainer could wish for.
I kid you not, I went into the fight with a team that i didn't think could do it. Lead off with Roserade to deal with Spiritomb, two shot with Dazzling Gleam, tanked a Psychic. Had my Torterra one shot both her Gastrodon and Milotic. For her Roserade, I used Staraptor and one shot it with Fly. Kept Staraptor in for Lucario, got off a Close Combat which did over half, then got one shot with a crit Flash Cannon. So I just brought in a Luxray and spammed Discharge until it died. *oh boy is time for satan's creation to come out* I started with Roserade to get an Attract so Satan's creation would attack less. It worked, but was immediately one shot by Earthquake. Since half my team was weak to that demon, I brought out the only pokemon that could hopefully tank a few attacks and deal some damage back, Torterra, who I nicknamed Jimmy. I decided to start with an Earthquake, which worked but he also took a lot of damage back with Dragon Claw. I knew I had to heal a bit, so I went for Giga drain. Then what happened? *"Jimmy landed a critical hit, wishing to be praised!"* Jimmy the Torterra KO'D Cynthia's Garchomp. Hence why Torterra is my favourite Pokemon. ur welcome for my traumatic experience :>
Although the original was a masterpiece of music, somehow this version hits just as hard. I like to think Cynthia herself radiates the approach theme around herself whereas her pokemon have an aura of this song. Not just in battle. Everywhere.
People can say what they want, I thoroughly enjoyed my time with the remakes. And while this might not be my favorite version of Cynthia's theme (that honor goes to the B/W postgame fight), this theme still absolutely slaps
i was casually sweeping cynthia's team with my overleveled roserade, outspeeding everything (ofc swapped to infernape for lucario and roserade) then garchomp came in i was like "pffft easy ohko with dazzling beam" until cynthia outsped roserade and oneshot my entire team
They made her harder. Gave all her 'mon held items and she actually Switches out 'mon when at a disadvantage. I played without healing in battle, set mode, no overleveling and the fight took me 4 tries before I barley scraped by.
i did similar but managed to win at my first try by building my team more or less around it, my team was garchomp, houndoom, milotic, froslass, lucario and gardevoir, it went down up to a 1v1 of milotic and garchomp where i had to bank it on a burn proc from scald, which i got and that let me survive a +2 EQ to kill with ice beam, damn it was such an intense and thrilling battle
Français: Pokeli, encore une fois tu t'es surpassé. Chaque fois que je recherche des musiques de Pokémon, tu es la source numéro 1! Anglais: Pokeli, once again you surpassed yourself. Each time I'm looking for Pokemon musics, you are my number one source!
Mega Garchomp isn't as good as a regular Garchomp in most cases. It has a higher attack, but lowered speed stat, making it more likely you'll just outspeed and KO. If they wanted to give a mega, it would go to Lucario, who's mega is all around better.
@@gengarzilla1685 yes and no. In any case it's certainly not a bad move because of the speed boost, but the defense drop does mean if you're wrong... Best play i can think of offhand is a baton pass in if you're going for mega Garchomp, get another pokemon to boost the speed first so it's a non issue.
Yache berry actually makes this battle and absolute nightmare because ice moves won't be as powerful .Plus,mega garchomp has a lower speed stat,so yeah, yache berry garchomp would probobly more difficult than mega garchomp.
In all my years of playing Pokémon, no battle had ever been as intense or anime as this. Thanks to the usage of several items and more strategy than I have ever needed to employ during a playthrough, it was fairly even until she brought out Garchomp (surprise). It was too fast, too bulky and set up 3 swords dances while I was busy reviving party members. I should have been destroyed x10, but my Carnivine kept living on 1 HP via the power of friendship, giving me time to deal about half of Garchomp's health before it went down. I then went into my Lucario thinking all was lost, but he lived on 1 HP too, again thanks to the power of friendship, which gave me the opening I needed in order to finish Garchomp off with dragon pulse. Most intense fight I've had in over a decade if not ever.
A couple days ago, i finally beat the game, and yeah, the Cynthia battle was extremely tough as most people say, i lost on my first attempt and i didn't even get to her Garchomp, her Garchomp isn't the only strong thing she has, her other pokemon are pretty tough too, on my second attempt, i got through her pokemon and finally encountered the devilish Garchomp, all my pokemon could not outspeed it and it kept using earthquake, so i kept reviving my pokemon until she ran out of earthquakes, finally her earthquakes ran out when i revived my Infernape, she used Dragon Claw which did a lot, i full restore my Infernape and than she uses poison jab which didn't do a lot, so this was my chance, i used Close Combat and got it in the yellow, she used poison jab again and than i hit the last close combat and killed it, what a battle!
"Champion Cynthia sent out Garchomp" No! You can't run from a trainer battle. "The opposing Garchomp used Earthquake!" NO! YOU CAN'T RUN FROM A TRAINER BATTLE!
Still can't believe this was the second Pokémon game I ever played and haven't to go through this was hard and when this came out, I knew she was going to be tough and man it was but to my surprise after years of practicing and learning I myself I'm not kidding actually beat Cynthia on my first attempt I didn't think I could but it proves that years of playing Pokémon you can become the very best like no one ever was.
Me: "With my full knowledge of competitive Pokemon, I managed to beat Cynthia easily. My long nightmare... is over. Cynthia in the rematches: "Are you sure about that?"
![Final Battle vs Cynthia!! [Pokemon Black 2]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/GuX0JPd2Njw/mqdefault.jpg)
Their version are better than mine for sure.
Nah yours was better IMO
I think yours is more epic
Yeah
yeaaahhhh, i do like this one better
still an amazing job on yours though
@balls you’re*
Cynthia: Who are you?
Pokemon player: You ended my Nuzlocke.
Cynthia: Do you have the slightest idea how little that narrows it down?
LOL
Nuzlocke Vet (To Cynthia): You took… everything from me
BDSP Cynthia: I don’t even know who you are
Nuzlocke Vet: You will
Saw a nuzlocke cup where cynthia ended the dreams of many (some lost at the same time to her Garchomp who was at 30% hp who just revenge swept their team)
lmaoooo nice
Batman Beyond reference????
❤❤❤❤❤😭
"Cynthia's Garchomp toughed it out so she wouldn't feel sad"
Lucas and Dawn learned why they shouldn't make deals with the Devil for their remakes.
no.
If they gave her access to the affection mechanics we’d be screwed
everyone be like: *Guess we die** ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
the Elite 4 at least have the affection mechanic, as i've seen various mons of theirs survive from 35% hp, and then be one shot the next turn after a heal.
I'm glad they got rid of the low health bar theme because now I at least get to listen to her theme while getting destroyed
Well that was in gen 5.
@@Daniel328DT actually gen 4 had too
@@tobysceptiman7058 You mean the beep sound effect? I just went and checked the gameplay and that's the only thing I've noticed. Even then, the HP bar in the originals didn't really affect the theme that much unlike gen 5.
@@Daniel328DT they were talking about how Cynthia was so broken back in DPP that all they could hear was the song adding the sound of the low health, and I agree. If she didn't one shot you, you were at low health 80% of the time.
@@tobysceptiman7058 Gen 4 didn't have the low health theme, it's a Gen 5 exclusive
"The trainer who has been known to crush dreams in a single battle, and many still fear to this day... you take a step forward, and there she is. You now have only one final objective... defeat Cynthia."
Hello fellow JaidenAnimations watcher
"She leads with Spiritomb, which -has no weaknesses- is thankfully weak to Fairy-Type moves since X and Y."
nah bruh that one final objective is survive
Okay :)
*kills all her Poekmon without a single of my pokemon fainting*
@@smoldoritochild4136 did you somehow grind your Pokémon to level 100? Wtf?!
Fairy type: *appears*
Cynthia's garchomp: call an ambulance !
*Garchomp uses poison jab*
But not for me!
The crazy thing is, they placed poison jab instead of iron head bc they'd know how broken it would be 💀
My togekiss dodged the attack and used dazzling gleam he was last one I had and he made me proud
me: switches to steelix (immune to poison jab) then switches to togekiss (immune to earthquake) then back to steelix and back to togekiss and so on until she ran out of PP on all her attacking moves.
REALLY should have given her iron head instead of poison jab, not much better but at least nothing is immune to iron head.
This hits different after knowing what her great grandfather had done
Her ancestor and his warcrimes
@@Xman34washere but he is cute, therefore all of his war crimes are pardoned
Hahaha right?
The fact that his fight was actually harder; her battle theme was only his encounter theme
@@AzumarillConGafasBv so you’re telling me that i can get away with almost murder if i look nice
"It's not the strongest that survive, nor the smartest, but the one that best adapts to change"
~Cynthia's Garchomp after learning Poison Jab in the generation with fairy types
thanos: "should've gone for iron head"
Was so confident my Gardevoir could take down her Garchomp with Dazzling Gleam until I found out it has Poison Jab....😱
I have to use friendship power to win because my Gardevoir can't outspeed it :< Am I a coward?
@@h_dduwsc The power of friendship
ice move still op against garchomp! ;)
@@tofu8676 you know he has yache berry right? if you dont have a lot of special attack or crit, he WILL survive and retaliate probably with and OHKO
@@HaxeRain my mew with blizzard did like 1/5 to that garchomp
Most of the game: 😀
The Elite 4: 😐
Most of Cynthia's team: 😧
Cynthia's Garchomp: 💀
Nahh elite four was difficult
Giratina: 👿
Really? For me her Milotic was the problem, Garchomp went down easy.
@@harchosmia same, I rekt her Garchomp by having my Torterra spam earthquake
The Elite Four is also insane in these games.
Fun fact: Cynthia’s team has perfect IVs, all EVs In stats that competitive players use in sets, and competitive movesets. Either have max affection on all your team or make peace with your goat god.
Edit: alright I get it, you people worked around it with other stuff. Throw me under the bus why don’t you :(
Or get a Pokémon with Quiver Dance.
Me: “welp, guess I’ll die”
Or stock up lots of recovery
@@manusiabumi7673 full restore go and revive
Meaning if we can use the Judge function on her pokemon, their stats is 'Best!'?
That smile before she sent out her spiritomb was not a smile for an entertaining battle......
That's the smile of someone who is adding someone to her body count
Adding someone to Spiritomb’s spirit count.
Yeah, herself after I massacered her team :)
@@smoldoritochild4136
Every time, there's that guy. "OoH tHey WeRe EaSy fOr Me HaRdY hArDy Har"
Me, who abused her Spiritomb lead to set up a flawless Garchomp sweep:
"THAT IS HOW IT FEELS!"
@@tylerslagel5485 no wonder we had to collect so many wisps in Legends Arceus
The cinematic climax my battle with her this time around had... It was down to her Garchomp, and she'd KO'd half my party already. A dragon claw scraped away most of my Torterra's hp, but he held strong. Didn't even get him down to one hp. But it was plenty for Overgrow to activate, and even if Wood Hammer's recoil didn't exist, Garchomp's rough skin was enough to scrape away the last of Bogard's hp. Such a cool moment, seeing both of our aces go down simultaneously.
Lmao in my situation it was only her garchomp left as well and she had already sword danced twice but torterra survived via friendship and kod w wood hammer as well, would have been swept otherwise
@@jesusochoa6821 is wood hammer only available through TM?
@@fantasan8540 nope! U have to use a heart scale and go to the move reminder in pastoria
Her Garchomp was running through all of my weakened Pokemon even without swords dance. My only fresh Pokemon was my Garchomp, but he was 3 levels lower. I knew her dragon claw would OHKO, so I switched in Staraptor first for the intimidate. I tanked the dragon claw and finished her off with my own. Truly poetic.
this is exactly what happened with me except i had earthquake
Remembering how the remake announcement made me afraid that they'd nerf her
Learning that she's just as, if not more, capable makes me smile.
Here's to a whole new generation of kids who get to learn the true meaning of fear
Can confirm, she was just as good in the remake. also got my sister to play it and she HATES cynthia dude. been procrastinating since her 3rd attempt.
@@ivebecomesomethingdifferen2555 drifblim was built different
Cynthia has the flash for a garchomp
This cynthia was my first version of cynthia I battled......she was a joke
@@Alexgodofwar5662 honestly same i mean other than the fact milotic took forever to kill her team was fairly easy atleast her garchomp was it went down with one ice punch from abomasnow since it used swords dance first. If anything garchomp was the easiest part. If the older version is anything like this one i don't see how she is so scary.
@@mesa8680 Cynthia's old garchomp version has a garbage moveset
Dragon rush
Brick break
Swords dance
Earthquake
I never hated Full restore as much as in this fight
Same
Lance: You can't be Champion of the Pokemon League if you don't spam Full Restore!
@@Facade953 love that vid
@@redskywalker4642 Same here!😀
Me when she uses three full restores in a row:
So happy some of you newer players
are experiencing the beat down that taught us vets to fully understand competitive play
Exactly I cried for days because I couldn’t pass Cynthia’s team back in Platinum 😂
"Vets"
The game's barely 16 years old, stop being over dramatic
@@Mewtwo_150 that makes it a "retro" title, fyi
@@38mb. No, it doesn't
Stop acting like you're a "veteran" because you beat the easiest champion
@@Mewtwo_150 yes it does, dude.
The fact that Cynthia is now the strongest trainer and ties with Red for highest level trainer pokemon..
Yes just yes.
.
"STEP ON ME CYNTHIA"
Cynthia has higher levels tho
@@MariOmor1 Both Red and Cynthia have a lvl 88 as their highest lvled pokemon
@@pinkyclaudie5450 having a pikachu on his team brings his team down
All of the Sinnoh dragon types are creators
Dialga = creator of time
Palkia = creator of space
Giratina = creator of distortion
Garchomp = creator of HELL
Garchomp: creator of pain
Dialga creator of time
Palkia creator of space
Giratina creator of distortion
Garchomp creator of suffering
Arceus creator of the end
Me/Us: you can't run from a trainer battle...
Our Minds: Well I sure in the hell can try dammit. 😂😂
DialgA
PalkiA
GiratinA
CynthiA
All gods
Dialga embodiment of time
Palkia embodiment of space
Giratina embodiment of anti-matter
Garchomp embodiment of death, destroyer of worlds
Lowkey my deoxys 1 shot her garchomp
I've always been a fan of Wormadam. So in this game, I've had one on my team ever since I had access to the honey trees and got a Burmy. It was my main mon, being able to destroy anything if it set up Quiver Dance, but oft being destroyed just as quickly itself. Nonetheless I raised it as my own.
But when the Cynthia battle finally came up, I knew it was a bit unrealistic to bring her into a battle that brutal. So I went in with my other mons, and got beat in a close match.
At this point, I thought I had nothing to lose. I might as well just try something fun and drastic. Hey, what if I could win with just my darling Wormadam? That'd be funny.
And it was.
I sent out Wormadam first on my second attempt. Luckily, Spiritomb couldn't do literally anything against a Bug/Steel type with Sucker Punch and Shadow Ball. This left my Wormadam safe to set up Quiver Dance... six times. She now had enough strength and speed to outspeed and one-shot all of Cynthia's team. And she did. Six turns, four Bug Buzzes, Two Psychics, and it was done. Wormadam alone had beaten Cynthia.
Moral of the story: Fight with the Pokemon you love. Love will find its way to victory.
Karen would approve of your actions.
Yep my Chimecho swept 4/6 of Cynthia's team with Charge Beam, Psychic, Dazzling Gleam, and Reflect. Absolute beast
chad+based+using pokemon you love+no psedo legends+solo sweep+upvoted+your dad never left+you have bitches+W
Other moral of the story: Boosting moves are op lol
I did something very similar with beautifly.
I exclusively build Ice type teams when I play these games. It makes some of the earlier gyms a bit tougher, but the dragon gyms are all late game and I breeze past them. I thought Cynthia wouldn't be too tough since her biggest threat can be taken out with any decent Ice attack. Big fucking mistake. I started with Weaville who was able to freely get 3 Swords Dance's off against Spiritomb then proceeded to sweep Cynthia's entire team. I got up to Garchomp and was confident my Jolly Weaville would just outspeed it despite the level disadvantage.
So it turns out Cynthia has a Jolly, max IV and EV Garchomp. He proceeds to sweep half my team including my Weaville. No biggie, I send out Mamoswine and use Ice Shard for priority. Of fucking course Garchomp is holding a Yache Berry. Ending up having to blow multiple max revives to finally bring it down with my final pokemon (an Abomasnow also with a priority Ice Shard). This max speed Garchomp was ridiculous and almost wiped me, and this is after I cheesed through the other 5 Pokemon on her team. It legitimately OHKOed on every single attack against my Pokemon.
Thank god for priority moves
Ohhh, finally I understand why he was faster than my Froslass 😂
Didn't know Cynthia had been canonically laddering Smogon since Platinum came out
Thank god ice shard exist or else you get f*ck up out of the league lmao😆
Oh yeah cause Earthquake won’t one hit wonder them at all!
Well that Garchomp is not max speed evs, it has 204 spd evs, making it the second fastest Pokemon league enemy with 212 actual speed, the fastest one is the Alakazam with only 252 speed evs (reaching like 230 ish) but still Garchomp has the 252 atk (making it have 238 actual atk) and the rest went into its bulk with 52 hp
November: God... Cynthia was so hard.
January: Volo: Allow me, to introduce myself!
G I R A T I N A A A A
B I S H A A N
*G I R A T I N A ! S T R I K E H I M*
*D O W N !*
GIRATINA! STRIKE HER DOWN!
Honestly, even with Volo's whole team plus Giratina with 2 phases, this fight was still easier for me than the 3rd Cynthia battle in BDSP
I will never forget Batbird the Crobat. He tanked 3 Garchomp hits, giving me time to revive most of my party, allowing us the win on our first try
Your sacrifice was not in vain soldier.
Same for Webby, my Golduck. She held on long enough for me to heal up Little Foot the Torterra and finally take down that Garchomp. Thank you Webby.
@@EdwardNewgate58 thats amazing, but can I just say, Webby is an amazing name for a Golduck lool
My crobat was the only one alive in my team,garchomp used dragon claw, got crobat to red then my crobat killed it with an air cutter
@@r34dood Lol, I named most of my Pokémon based on cartoon and anime characters. Others I gave never nicknames based on pop cultural things or based on their looks. Simba the Luxray, Sora the Togekiss, Titan the Staraptor, Lyric the Kricketune, Shadow the Weavile, Malware the Rotom, Nemo the Manaphy, the list goes on!
My Togekiss got crit by poison jab and almost went down, survived on about 5-7 hp and then got a crit of her own, ending the Garchomp
I was heading into this battle prepared to take her down. Remembering the trauma she gave me as a child back in 2007. Now 14 years later, I was much more experienced in battling. Knew all the typing advantages. All was going well until her garchomp came out. I thought I was prepared for it. Boy was I wrong. As soon as that garchomp came out, it swept through my whole team. It out sped everything I had. I almost had it beat when I attempted to use ice fang on it with my floatzel. Of course, it has to miss and garchomp got off a swords dance. From there it was over. I used everything I can to try and beat it. Revives, max revives, full restores, max potions, no matter what combination of healing I did to try and counter her garchomp, none of it worked. And just like when I was a child, I lost to Cynthia once more. I beat her on my 2nd attempt, but just barely. All of my team members were down except for my Torterra who was at full health. Garchomp got 2 swords dance off prior to me getting him in though, so I had little to no hope of him surviving anything. Luckily, prior to switching in Torterra, my floatzel got off a crunch, which luckily lowered its defense. Floatzel went down, but his work would not be forgotten as my Torterra lived an earthquake by 1 HP thanks to affection. My Torterra landed it’s own earthquake on it, KO’ing garchomp from a little less than half health. If floatzel never got that defense drop from crunch, I definitely would’ve lost again. I can honestly say I have never had this much trouble with any champion since I was a kid. Coincidentally, it was against the same champion who gave me troubles as a child and still did at 23 years old. I haven’t rematched her yet in these games, but when I do, I know the even bigger threat that I’m up against this time. I will update this comment once I battle her for the 2nd time. Until then, I’ll be preparing for her
Holy shit what a madlad, honestly makes me feel bad for picking piplup as a starter: but at the same time I'm happy I'm going to battle her with my favorite mons regardless of all odds (managed to pull a good strategy so far, wish me luck lmfao)
@@bashartz yeah man. I went into this game with the intention of using my original team that I assembled back in gen 4. Regardless of the underground pokemon, I still wanted to use my og team. You got this man, just gotta strategize a bit when it comes to Cynthia
I just gave a quick claw to my empoleon and used ice beam twice had to revive it around 3 times tho :|
Did you beat her?
@@Hib1Zm0 the quick claw almost never works when you need it to the most lol
In the weeks leading up to this game, everyone kept making a fuss about how Cynthia would probably be easier.
Today's kids are gonna have it a helluva lot harder than we ever did, that's for certain.
well the kids can know the trauma you had (just worse)
Uh no. We never had a broken friendship mechanic to dodge attacks, survive KOs and shrug off status effects.
Factor in the friendship mechanic, lol.
@@Blablablarandomguy they didn't have to deal with AI clicking moves randomly (DP) or a Garchomp with a minus attack nature (Platinum). Even with max friendship, remake Cynthia is miles harder.
@@albabimam1114 Yeah, I played through Diamond back in the day and can say for certain that even with my team having viable natures of their own with moves complimenting them with items helping them out this go around, this was harder even with the friendship mechanic, good lord
People thought it would be easy because of fairy types, but i always knew it wouldn't. Garchomp can learn poison jab and iron head, there was no way it would be that easy. Most of fairy types are slow
Exactly. I was saying this from the very start, the only one of her Pokémon that's actually screwed by Fairy is Spiritomb.
Most fairies don’t take earthquake well either expect Togekiss and Tapu Bulu
alakazam with dazzling gleam go brrr
@@RonaldMcDongus Sucker Punch
@@RonaldMcDongus That's only if you out speed it and even if you have Focus sash I'm pretty sure it's a 2 hit ko
BDSP may not have been the remake I wanted but it certainly gave me closure. I never beat the original Pearl legitimately I had to cheat to beat her and by the time Platinum came I never bothered with the originals. Now almost 15+ years later I face her again as a proper and better Trainer and finally come out on top legitimately. Thank you BDSP for giving me the second chance.
That's a touching story
The fact that Cynthia and E4 have actual competitive teams make them more difficult than in the original-. It’s actually nuts. I’m planning on doing a nuzlocke of this game after my first playthrough, and good lord I’m going to be overleveling for this fight. No questions asked. x’D
I am actually genuinely impressed by this theme, it may even top the original.
Ok let's not get carried away
True
I wouldn't go that far now.
Personally find the music in the remakes to be the best of the Sinnoh region, mostly because the soundfont is prettier
Nah, I think this is a bit weaker tbh. Obviously they had the base of a fantastic song, but this version feels kinda… neutered? At least in certain parts anyways. I dunno, just feels a bit less intimidating.
This theme being remade to include more spacy synths makes me like this because it still has the original grounded instrumentals with the spacy sounds that remind you of the theme of the legendaries
Y’all talking about her Garchomp being hard while that damn Milotic of hers can withstand a supernova….🥴
Marvel Scale was the bane of my existence that fight.
@@eddyzeddy5573 And all my counters for Milotic were special...
... damn Mirror Coat
That damn milotic 🥲
Garchomp was a little bitch who went down to one moonblast from my gardevoir
Milotic stalled me for half an hour. Thank god for my gastrodon
To run w/ the "supernova" joke, that means her Milotic could take down Sephiroth no problem :V
I barely survived because she chose to Swords Dance.
That was not a victory.
That was bare survival
Same! I had to do intimidate switching
@@MariOmor1 same funny enough I went in with a under level team took my chances and ran with it two brave birds later thx to crit on the second one and garchomp goes down. Victory is mine but it took like an hour on the battle alone cause I had to strategize due to my under-levelness.
@@bestbro7773 I stalled the everloving hell out of her Garchomp with a Staraptor/Dusclops swap. Baited Earthquake with Dusclops while switching out to Staraptor, who Intimidated. Then back to Dusclops for Pressure. She still nuked 5/6 of my team because she had gotten x4 with Sword Dance, but she had burned up her strongest moves in the process. Empoleon brought me the win by tanking her full power (without triggering friendship) and counterattacking with Ice Beam. It was amazing.
My Bibor was Sleeping him and Dialga Room Time Smash hard
Same here, I had to use up almost all of my revives lol
Pokeli popping all these OST's all at once. I appreciate it.
I must say... I've got overconfident in this battle, and of course, Cynthia whiped out my whole team lmao. The game was so easy until the league, that I thought "meh, I won't gonna farm for lvl (my team was lv 56~58)" but when I saw that every pokemon had an item, I ended up like "WHAT???". Was a very fun battle tho
Why would u ever think cynthia would be easy huh??????
The first WTH moment was Aaron’s Flame Orb Heracross. It one-shooted two of my mons.
As someone who never played the originals (part of the main reason why I really wanted to get BDSP), I felt the same way! "Well I breezed through the gyms and Team Galactic with very little resistance, this should be no problem". Boy, was I ever wrong.
The difficulty curve spikes up a fair bit between the final gym and the league. So if you’re new, it might be a surprise when you get to the elite four only for the challenge to ramp up when the game up to that point has been relatively easy (or not too challenging).
I felt a little overleveled, sweeping through Volkner like it was nothing, and I did the same to Aaron. Then Bertha came out, K.Oed one pokemon, had me a little shook.
Then Flint came in and changed me with that Drifblim. Only that Drifblim.
After that I kinda just went to Lucian with a blood list and swept him with a little luck
After breezing through this entire game, I was definitely not expecting the elite 4 and Cynthia to be one of the most challenging experiences in my entire time playing Pokémon. They’re so insanely strong, and it makes me wish the rest of the game was like this. Cynthia and her competitive strats make her up there with red and ultra necrozma as one of the toughest fights in the series
The fact she not only dethroned Red as the strongest trainer, but also switches to her platinum team in rematches is top tier. The queen is back.
Volo: Creeps up in Arceus
Wasn't the Platinum team (back then at least) a nerf tho, due to removing the bulky snail with one weakness?
@@d4rksonic474 Well. She already had a Ground and a Water type. So Gastrodon overlapped typewise. Togekiss gives her more type balance.
At a competitive stand point yes Cynthia has dethroned Red, though when it comes to levels both of them have lvl 88 Pokemon as the highest then you remember Red uses a Pikachu.
Technically, not a complete switch to the Platinum team. She has a Porygon-Z in her final Rematch. Even with just one single appearance, I can confidently say that Porygon-Z has made its place as one of the best Pokémon of Cynthia. In fact, somehow I feel replacing her Spiritomb (one of her most iconic Pokemon) with Porygon-Z just makes her platinum team so much better because Porygon-Z complements her team so well.
So Porygon-Z, Roserade, Lucario, Togekiss, Milotic and Garchomp. This would be her strongest team.
Cynthia's Garchomp: *Has Sword Dance, Yache Berry, perfect IV, and Hidden ability*
Player: "Why are we still here? Just to suffer?"
And also Poison Jab cos fuck your Togekiss and Gardevoir 😂
@@BlazeBelladonna Would it be more terrifying if it had Iron Head instead? 😳
@@PeekatChu. I'm not sure if it has iron head. It could get stuck behind Azumarill or Tangrowth.
@@usmanya5110 I just thought it would be a good coverage for Ice types since Garchomp is 4 times weak to them.
@@PeekatChu. Lucario is coverage enough 😂
I went into this with zero level grinding, and a plan to set up and sweep with Togekiss. Lead with Luxray, set up light screen, then take out Spiritomb with physical moves. Togekiss lives a sludge bomb and froze Roserade with tri attack, then maxed out my special attack with nasty plot. Togekiss takes out everyone until I get hit by Garchomp's crit poison jab. Then my team gets swept. But my last Pokemon Honchkrow stole the show at the last second, because she used swords dance the same turn I used foul play. Foul play does more damage the higher the opponent's attack stat is. So she made my foul play powerful enough to one shot her Garchomp. Crazy fun battle!
>Tri Attack, a Normal type move
>Spiritomb, a Ghost/Dark type mon
E X P L A I N
@@christopherhewitt84 bad memory, forgive me. I took out the Spiritomb with my luxray, then froze her roserade with tri attack. Then while roserade was frozen, I set up. Spiritomb was gone so quick I forgot about them.
@@christopherhewitt84 I'll edit my original comment to fix my mistake lol
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Pokemon Diamond was my first ever Pokemon game, i asked for one of the remakes for Christmas and my parents who didn't really know about it bought Brilliant Diamond... These songs bring nostalgy tears from me... When i hear them i wish i could go back to those good old blissful days...
I have been a Pokemon fan since I was a child, but I did not play the main videogames until two years ago. Since then, I have been playing competitive battles in a weekly basis, reaching master ball rank without any troubles every month, and I have participated in the official online tournaments getting decent results. I am far from being the best but I consider myself experienced in competitive battles and teambuilding. When this game came out, I was so excited to try it. Although I was playing in a casual way, I tried to keep my team as balanced as possible: levels 60-65, my mons will cover each other weaknesses, competitive movesets but without optimal EVs and IVs (they don't really matter unless you are doing a nuzlocke or participating in tournaments). When the time come to face Cynthia, I finally wanted to see if the legends were true. I thought that players were probably over-exaggerating because they were inexperienced in battling when they were child. Oh boy, I was wrong. They were right all along. Cynthia destroyed me in my first battle. I genuinely thought I was facing a real person in masterball: their mons were properly trained with good coverage moves, optimal EVs and IVs and she was doing intelligent switches when she was in disadvantage. She has to be the strongest trainer in the whole franchise. I ended up beating her and her Garchomp in the second battle using a common strategy used in competitive double battles: intimidate spam haha.
Fanbase: THE NEW GAMES ARE TOO EASY! WE WANT CHALLENGE!
Game Freak and ILCA: *gives the League trainers competitive teams* There’s your damn challenge!
Fanbase: *Are saying the League is too hard*
That's basically Pokemon fans in a nutshell. Never satisfied at anything. Hell, I've found people ragging over legends Arceus because there's no voice acting. I don't even WANT voice acting, I feel like it would make the game worse
@@albabimam1114 the fandom is like a vacuum cleaner cleaning up turds, it sucks shit
@@albabimam1114 there's actual very minor voice acting: when you throw a Pokeball your player grunts a little
@@MariOmor1
the character also makes other noises when doing other actions, such as sprinting, getting hit, etc.
Exactly. There's no pleasing everyone
now we know that kicking ass runs in the family
At least Cynthia isn't attempting to actually kill you by siccing Satan on you
A couple years ago I found your channel looking up Cynthia's theme. Today I get to listen to her updated/remastered theme, once again, on your channel. Thanks for always uploading Pokemon music throughout the years! Happy to be subbed for over six years now :)
I built my team throughout Brilliant Diamond knowing I had this battle coming. Yet I was still so unprepared and she destroyed me. Grinded until I was "ready". Had a full team with only her Garchomp left. It very quickly wiped out most of them. In steps my Crowbat, the real MVP. Manages to take a few hits and evade enough for me to force her full restore and then lower its HP again. Crowbat feints which leaves my Garchomp that is 1 level lower than hers. Knowing she would out speed me I needed a miracle, quick claw didn't. She hits me with a dragon claw after having sword danced. I almost cried when it popped up "Garchomp held on so you wouldn't feel sad". One dragon claw of my own and she was finally beaten.
This battle is the first battle to give me Red vibes from when I was a young kid playing Pokemon Gold.
0:49 You’ll be hearing this again before you get PTSD in Legends Arceus.
She's the only one who made me genuinely worried about losing in Brilliant diamond
and I lost at first, my pokémon were underleveled even though I ended the E4 quite easily 😔😔
She dethroned red to become the strongest trainer ever. Some Queen activity
red gotta make a comeback ;c
my boy can't go down like that
@@skainphi yeah that happened in platinum too, Barry dethroned red as the strongest trainer but red made a comeback with a level 88 Pikachu in HGSS. So next remake might be Johto where red will return with a lv 100 Pikachu??
@@Retsu_07 Who knows if it's just gonna be Alder with a Competetive build next
Cynthia didn't dethrone anyone. She's just on par with him now.
@@wikiuser92 lol no Cynthia’s team is far better. Even if they have the same level Pokémon her team is just better balanced compared to Red
A summary of my fight with Cynthia:
Spiritomb: Took a few Dazzling Gleams from Togekiss but it went down:
Roserade: OHKOed by Glaceon. Tension is still high because I feel as though I'm being lured into a false sense of security.
Lucario: Now this guy have me war flashbacks to Maylene. She was the hardest Gym Leader I ever faced in Sinnoh and her Lucario was MONSTROUS. I wanted vengeance against the Lucario kind for my poor Vulpix getting constantly murdered by Maylene's Lucario, so I sent out Ninetales. I get Lucario down to red health, but Cynthia then switches to...
Gastrodon: I've been dreading this thing for my whole playthrough. Perhaps even more than Garchomp. Why? Well, it was my main grinding Pokémon in the Grand Underground for a long while and it would always destroy my team. And it's a vulky Water/Ground Type, presumably with Earthquake and my only Grass Type attacks are Grass Knot and Ninetales' Energy Ball. I even gave Ninetales a Rose Incense just to boost The Flamethrower that I meant to hit Lucario with did nothing and then I found out it had Leftovers? Oh. This is going to suck. I selected Energy Ball, preparing for the worst, AAAAAAAND- it was a OHKO. Biggest anticlimax of my playthrough.
Milotic: Pachirisu was my main 'mon to deal with her and we pretty much reached a stalemate. Scald wasn't doing anything to Pachirisu, Thunderbolt wasn't doing anything to Milotic. So I thought "This is going to take a while." I thought I could perhaps get Cynthia to waste all her Full Restores on Milotic, but then she started using Recover, so I switched to using Super Fang. Super Fang, Recover, Super Fang, Recover. Rinse repeat. Then I stopped using Super Fang when it was in yellow health and risked using a Thunderbolt. If I didn't hit, then Milotic might have used Scald this time and knock Pachirisu out. But Thunderbolt was enough and Milotic went down.
Lucario: it was still red health so I thought I'd shake things up and use Lopunny. Cynthia uses a Full Restore. Lopunny uses Drain Punch and gets it down to yellow health. Then weirdly it uses a stat buffing move instead of actually attacking and I finish it off. Which is exactly how won against Maylene.
Garchomp. I made my mind up. I wanted to beat Garchomp with my Starter. So I used the rest of my team to whittle him down. Glaceon fainted to use up its Yache. I tried to Ice Beam it with Empoleon, but Garchomp outsped and Earthquaked it to death. Cue montage of Garchomp slaughtering Empoleon, Pachirisu, Togekiss and Lopunny. Lopunny survived getting OHKOed twice with one HP, but then when I used Strength, Garchomp had Rough Skin???? Bye, Lopunny! During this massacre Garchomp used Swords Dance and it gave me Maylene flashbacks (again) of getting swept faster than I could revive my team.
And just when all hope seemed lost: "Peppy avoided the attack with your shout!" Ice Beam AAAAND it's over! PEPPY, SWEETHEART, MY BELOVED STARTER!!!!!! YOU DID IT! AAAAAAAH!!!!
My starter in my second playthrough is also called Peppy, lol. Mine is a Turtwig. And you're absolutely right about Maylene, her Lucario can sweep. Only beat her after my Torterra learned earthquake.
they did a great job with this theme imo. really sells the “cynthia is an adrenaline junkie and wants this battle to go as long as possible” idea
Oh, more nightmares. Thanks, Pokeli!
Players: "Her Garchomp isn't very dangerous now since we have the fairy type"
*Garchomp use Poison Jab*
Players: " Oh, fuck..."
ice types: uhh
@@shadowfan6984 Garchomp consumed it's Yache Berry!
@@Potterholic1 f-
Fairy types and Ice types: Guess I'll die.
Weavile with Knock Off can get rid of that yache and hopefully survive at least one hit. Just gotta have the right nature and EVs
"It's a modern pokemon game, Cynthia wouldn't be as hard!" Me before getting washed and folded by Cynthia 20 times
This champion was the first ever one to ever actually beat me (i usually over-level) and i had to sit there and contemplate my life choices to ignore all the warnings about this particular champion. Well Done Cynthia you terrifying being- well done inducing me with fear for your rematch
Here's everyone talking about her Garchomp tearing up everyone.
Bro, my Nuzlocke was swept away in one sentence.
"The opposing Lucario used Nasty Plot!"
Even though it's only the music and not the actual battle itself, I can STILL hear Spiritomb's cry. It's like engraved in my head
I just come from listening to Volo's theme. I must say, there is indeed a resemblance there. The Pokemon company really pulls off that they are related.
Like kingdom hearts did with Xehanort themes....
0:38 of the theme onward is used for Volo, along with Cynthia's encounter theme for the first half
Ash Ketchum Get ready for the battle of your life
He won!
@@wikiuser92 no he survived
@@nickwilliams904 Cynthia was going all out. Ash won by doing the same.
@@wikiuser92 you missed the joke
@@Harmtronic No I didn't. I just wasn't sure if it was said ironically or not.
I just finished Shining Pearl and have come here to pay my tribute to this amazing Game, and this amazing Champion.
Cynthia creamed me four times before I managed to 3v1 her Garchomp via intimidate cheese before Napoleon the Empoleon finished that monster of a Garchomp off. Seriously, Cynthia was one my first white-out in... I literally cannot remember when. As someone who hasn't played Gen 4 until now, I thought Cynthia was a bit overrated.
*I was wrong.*
Fun fact: Her Milotic has a flame orb and the unique ability to to super-buff defense stats when afflicted with a status condition. So if your sweeper Luxrays are getting bullied by it, that's why.
Uh, no, Marvel Scale only boosts physical defense. I used the same strategy to wall Garchomp on Platinum.
@@gengarzilla1685pretty sure Milo is Max HP Max SPDef 😂
@@AlldaylongRock actually it's max hp and max DEF, on top of a flame orb.
It's insane. It's absolutely insane.
To give a clearer idea, if an Electivire gets burnt by Scald, it does only 20% damage to this Milotic with Wild Charge.
And this thing has recover.
And mirror coat
@@nishant9289 Tbf Milo has great base SpDef. And then punishes special attackers with Mirror Coat, just so it then shrugs off the damage with Recover..
That thing is thicc😂
They went hard with this Cynthia team
@@nishant9289 close enough.
*Lvl 63 252+ Atk burned Electivire Wild Charge vs. Lvl 63 252 HP / 252+ Def Marvel Scale Milotic: 57-67 (22.7 - 26.6%) -- guaranteed 4HKO after burn damage*
If i had not included Mamoswine in my party nearly at the end of the game, i would still be trying to beat her
One of my biggest fears was that they would mess up Cynthia's battle theme:
I'm so happy that they got her theme and battle right. It's super hard and the music sounds incredible. Well done ILCA!
So this is the “final boss music” that we all hear when she sends out that Garchomp to sweep us
You’re here too 😭
Don’t forget her rematch
My lumineon some how dodged 2 earthquakes so they yache berry activated an ice beam did a quarter then she set up swords dance then she earthquaked lumineon dodged it then she healed ice beam did half then I dodged a second earthquake and then next turn I finished it off with a second ice beam that was more lucky then when I froze her garchomp with my azumarill in my platinum playthrough
You'll only be able to hear the music for 5 seconds before your entire team has fainted.
Yup, literally the one and only Time I’ve ever lost to a champion of of fracking course Cynthia, surprised yes but nope not really and took a bite from a bullet to fight her for vengeance 😤, most worth it, god I love this game and champion 👏
People online: Yeah, Cynthia isn't that strong when you consider other Champions.
Cynthia during her interview for the upcoming remake: And I took that personally.
You could have a team of Level 90s and you'd still be sweating bullets against Cynthia 😅
Fun fact: Avalanche has a NEGATIVE priority. And I was confused how her garchomp was faster than my weavile.
Huh I didn't know that actually. Her Garchomp could probably outspeed you anyways tho cuz it's EV trained with max IVs
@@gatr2897 Not in the first battle, tho.
I think the initial battle there are only IVs (perfect ones)
@@Oscarus4250 I’m quite sure her pokemons are EV trained in the first battle, too
@@nickstar8641 They are indeed fully EV trained and have perfect IV's for all of her battles. So be ready for a hellish fight no matter what.
@@nickstar8641 Okay, I was wrong.
I datacheck and in the first battle her Garchomp has 31 IV, 204 EV and Jolly
1:20 Ah yes, the part where Reshiram makes a cameo and howls alongside the music. Gotta love it
In all seriousness, who would have thought that bringing 2 layers of Spikes would actually put Garchomp in just enough health to get 2HKO by my Gyarados's +1 Waterfall ? To think those Spikes had beaten Spiritomb when it switched back in while it had red health... Glalie, your sacrifice was well worth it !
1:20 is the intro of Distortion World theme
@meta527II Up to three times actually. Getting 3 layers of spikes is easier said than done, but if you can do it, grounded Pokémon loses a quarter of their health when switching in.
The Kebia Berry on my Togekiss really came in clutch in this battle.
Get outplayed, Garchomp.
This doesn't hit as hard in the remakes but it still fills you with dread as you know you are facing off against the strongest champion in the entire franchise.
Thank you for the upload
Diamond/Pearl Cynthia: Not very balanced.
Platinum Cyinthia: It was nerfed but...STILL HARD
Brilliant Diamond/Shining Pearl Cynthia: HOLD MY PERFECT EVs, IVs, AND MY HELD ITEMS
My first battle with her:
*Cynthia sends out Garchomp*
"Ok, I'll just- WAIT WHAT DO YOU MEAN THIS THING HAS SWORDS DANCE?!"
I’m not ashamed at admitting it took me 6 tries at beating Cynthia. When I was a Kid I had the help of Palkia so it didn’t take as long as it did. Plus a as kids you wanna have the cool Pokémon on my team (don’t try and say Dialga’s better, I don’t care). This time around I went in with the team I felt had the best chance at victory in the first try, plus I’ve had this team since the beginning; Infernape, Luxray, Crobat, Staraptor, Roserade, and Gastrodon. With this team I was able to easily beat the Elite Four with no problems on my first attempt and the attempts after (slight problem with Lucian by my own part). Cynthia’s Spiritomb is the obstacle meant to wear down PP, and if you’ve got a Pokémon that can’t take more than 2 hits from Spiritomb, you’re certain to meet your end. I lost to Garchomp 4 times, and Lucario once. She has perfect counters for each of her Pokémon, if there’s a type disadvantage facing her, she WILL take it down, or bring it close to down forcing you to heal before the next Mon. If Lucario is able to pull off a Nasty Plot, or Garchomp pulls of a Swords Dance and you don’t have a plan… Accept defeat… it’s game over. They’re faster than you, my fastest member is Crobat and it had 200+ speed at the time, and that stat’s not boosted by its nature. At the 6th try, I just wanted to beat Cynthia and play the postgame, so I ended up using Battle Items to beef up my Luxray and single-handedly use him to take down her Pokémon. I used X Sp. Def to withstand Spiritomb’s Sp. Atks while I set up, X Speed to ensure I was the fastest no matter what Pokémon she used, and X Attack to beef up Luxray’s already great Attack and sweep her team.
POV: You decide to enter that one house in Undella Town
Player: Hmm, I think I shall pop in and have a friendly visit with the lucky citizen living here.
Cynthia: *Oh? You're approaching me?*
I think you could refuse the fight if I remember correctly.
Ptsd ensues
Now I’m scared of the eventual Unova remakes.
I swear if they make that match a FORCED match in the remakes people are gonna know true fear
It was when I was listening to this song that I realized something. The way they made Volo's theme sound in Pokémon Legends: Arceus, it sounds enough like its own song to sound like Cynthia's theme has bits taken from Volo's theme, instead of the other way around. If that didn't make sense, it sounds a bit more like Cynthia's theme is the remixed one, instead of Volo's. And I suppose that makes sense, given that Volo is Cynthia's ancestor.
Welp i think its easy to say that this is now the hardest battle in the entire franchise, I knew I had a damn good reason to be terrified of this battle after that hellish Elite 4
You don't beat Cynthia.
You survive her.
"I hope you're enjoying the Underground kid, cos that's where your team's corpses will be very soon"
I cheesed the battle with potions and revives like a filthy casual, no EV training and no real strategy, but the highlight for me was how my shiny Chimeco took her Milotic like a champ 😢. I found the little Chingling the first time I entered Mt. Coronet, it didn't even register in my brain for the first seconds that it was a shiny (Chingling has a very lame shiny, almost identical to the original), and almost hit run... but the delayed reaction in my brain told me I heard the spark. I went to a wiki to confirm it was shiny, and still with doubts and only normal Pokeballs at my disposal, I catched it. I was so happy, so many years of countless random wild Pokémon pestering me in caves finally paid off, I got a full odds post-gen 5 shiny without even hunting...
...and when no one in my team was able to stand against Cynthia's Milotic, this little now Chimeco was there to save the day (with a little cheese, but still).
Sorry, this is one of the few times I really got attached to a Pokémon, I get teared up a little bit
The war flashbacks are coming back to me
Cynthia: wanna see me traumatize a generation.
Wanna see me do it again
Congratulations Ash Ketchum, on defeating the strongest champion ever!!!
Leon: *Allow me to introduce myself.*
@@wikiuser92 Leon's team isn't built for competitive play, and doesn't use held items. Cynthia's is and does. She's the superior trainer, despite what the anime tells us.
@@Potterholic1 the anime ain’t the most reputable source since Leon did just absolutely demolish Alain and dianthus
@@pokeplayer6770 The games were my source for Cynthia's strength compared to Leon, FYI.
@@Potterholic1 ik
As a child, I never managed to finish the original Diamond, Pearl and Platinum games. I never got past the fifth gym. English is not my mother tongue so obviously as a child I didn't know what to do in these games a lot of the time. But still, they meant a lot to me. Pokémon as a whole meant the world to me back when I was about 7 through 9 years old and it is still something that I hold very dear. But I never played any of the mainline games after Platinum or before Diamond and Pearl.
When I read that these remakes where coming out, I couldn't wait. It had been 11 years since I last played the original games, but I could not have been more excited.
This remake was a very nostalgic trip down memory lane, especially the first half of the game, since I never got the sixth gym badge.
Most of it was much easier than when I was a child, but then came the Elite Four. I actually lost the first two times, perhaps even three times, I don't exactly remember. The highest Elite Four Member I got to was Lucian.
But today, on my final attempt, I reached Cynthia. And what a fight it was.
It didn't even go that bad, until she brought out her Garchomp. She got a couple of Sword's Dances off and swept the majority of my team, mainly with Earthquakes. But I brought a whole bunch of revives, all kinds of potions and revival herbs. Floatzel managed to do about a third of damage with an Ice Beam.
I let Garchomp KO my Floatzel to revive my Dialga (for a possible Roar of Time), and then let her KO my Dialga to revive my Floatzel, and so on for a couple of rounds, to stall out the Earthquakes. Then came a round when she did not manage to KO one of my pokémon (pretty sure my Floatzel), and that must have been exactly the buffer that I needed to revive an extra pokémon.
Not many rounds after that, it was my Dialga against her Garchomp. I knew that I would either manage to hit her with a Roar of Time this round, or it was over. I wanted to end it, as I knew my revives would run out.
So I decided to try to get Dialga to do a Roar of Time. I clicked Roar of Time, turned the sound off, closed my eyes as I couldn't even bare to watch anymore, and...
Somehow, someway, my Dialga managed to pull off the Roar of Time. I saw it when I opened eyes, and against my expectations, Garchomp's health bar turned orange, then red, and then she fainted. She was gone. I could not believe it.
Because I had my eyes closed for a few seconds, I'll never know if Dialga somehow outsped her insanely fast Garchomp, or if Garchomp wanted to get another Sword's Dance in, or if her attack missed somehow, or if Roar of Time is a priority move without me knowing it (if that was the case I could have beaten her way quicker if I knew that (don't know if it even actually is a priority move, though).
but all that matters now is that we won, my team and I won. I was so happy that I cried happy tears all through the Hall of Fame and the Credits sequence. It's been a few hours and I'm still overcome with joy that I finally managed to beat the game I never managed to beat as a child. I still cannot believe that I, who never even beat the sixth gym as a child, have defeated Cynthia on my first attempt.
that was a really nice read and story
@@quackquack4335 Thanks!😊
@@annemarieke2002 no problem!
Captain Falcon, I’ll never forget your sacrifice…your life for the life of my abomasnow was not made in vain. You were the greatest Staraptor a trainer could wish for.
Let’s go!! My boi Ash Ketchum just beat a champion that’s haunted me for many years!
I kid you not, I went into the fight with a team that i didn't think could do it.
Lead off with Roserade to deal with Spiritomb, two shot with Dazzling Gleam, tanked a Psychic.
Had my Torterra one shot both her Gastrodon and Milotic.
For her Roserade, I used Staraptor and one shot it with Fly.
Kept Staraptor in for Lucario, got off a Close Combat which did over half, then got one shot with a crit Flash Cannon.
So I just brought in a Luxray and spammed Discharge until it died.
*oh boy is time for satan's creation to come out*
I started with Roserade to get an Attract so Satan's creation would attack less.
It worked, but was immediately one shot by Earthquake.
Since half my team was weak to that demon, I brought out the only pokemon that could hopefully tank a few attacks and deal some damage back, Torterra, who I nicknamed Jimmy.
I decided to start with an Earthquake, which worked but he also took a lot of damage back with Dragon Claw.
I knew I had to heal a bit, so I went for Giga drain.
Then what happened?
*"Jimmy landed a critical hit, wishing to be praised!"*
Jimmy the Torterra KO'D Cynthia's Garchomp.
Hence why Torterra is my favourite Pokemon.
ur welcome for my traumatic experience :>
My torterra in one of my playthroughs suffered from milotic because of that damn ice beam
"It's been a while since I was put into a corner like this".
Although the original was a masterpiece of music, somehow this version hits just as hard. I like to think Cynthia herself radiates the approach theme around herself whereas her pokemon have an aura of this song. Not just in battle. Everywhere.
Cynthia:
Ultra Necrozma:
BEING DIFFICULT AF AND HAVING A BANGER THEME:
People can say what they want, I thoroughly enjoyed my time with the remakes. And while this might not be my favorite version of Cynthia's theme (that honor goes to the B/W postgame fight), this theme still absolutely slaps
i was casually sweeping cynthia's team with my overleveled roserade, outspeeding everything (ofc swapped to infernape for lucario and roserade)
then garchomp came in
i was like "pffft easy ohko with dazzling beam"
until cynthia outsped roserade and oneshot my entire team
They made her harder. Gave all her 'mon held items and she actually Switches out 'mon when at a disadvantage.
I played without healing in battle, set mode, no overleveling and the fight took me 4 tries before I barley scraped by.
i did similar but managed to win at my first try by building my team more or less around it, my team was garchomp, houndoom, milotic, froslass, lucario and gardevoir, it went down up to a 1v1 of milotic and garchomp where i had to bank it on a burn proc from scald, which i got and that let me survive a +2 EQ to kill with ice beam, damn it was such an intense and thrilling battle
She switches out? I didn't see that, even when I put my Torterra against Gastrodon.
@@gengarzilla1685 she does at times, i once got switched from roserade into Lucario when I had my own Lucario on the field
@@gengarzilla1685 Yea, Not sure how the A.I. works, but she Switched out several times during my battle with her and it was always to her benefit.
And then her great great grandfather made the battle 10000x harder.
Français: Pokeli, encore une fois tu t'es surpassé. Chaque fois que je recherche des musiques de Pokémon, tu es la source numéro 1!
Anglais: Pokeli, once again you surpassed yourself. Each time I'm looking for Pokemon musics, you are my number one source!
Up against Cynthia’s garchomp, the strongest Pokémon in the history of the franchise
My roserade be like
T O X I C
The music battle is epic it makes it so intense.
my mind really is scared of itself when I think to her having a MEGA-GARCHOMP! that would be really the definitive battle against her.
Mega Garchomp isn't as good as a regular Garchomp in most cases. It has a higher attack, but lowered speed stat, making it more likely you'll just outspeed and KO.
If they wanted to give a mega, it would go to Lucario, who's mega is all around better.
If they want to have her use Mega Garchomp, it should use Scale Shot to fix the speed problem you mention.
@@gengarzilla1685 yes and no. In any case it's certainly not a bad move because of the speed boost, but the defense drop does mean if you're wrong...
Best play i can think of offhand is a baton pass in if you're going for mega Garchomp, get another pokemon to boost the speed first so it's a non issue.
Yache berry actually makes this battle and absolute nightmare because ice moves won't be as powerful .Plus,mega garchomp has a lower speed stat,so yeah, yache berry garchomp would probobly more difficult than mega garchomp.
In all my years of playing Pokémon, no battle had ever been as intense or anime as this. Thanks to the usage of several items and more strategy than I have ever needed to employ during a playthrough, it was fairly even until she brought out Garchomp (surprise). It was too fast, too bulky and set up 3 swords dances while I was busy reviving party members. I should have been destroyed x10, but my Carnivine kept living on 1 HP via the power of friendship, giving me time to deal about half of Garchomp's health before it went down. I then went into my Lucario thinking all was lost, but he lived on 1 HP too, again thanks to the power of friendship, which gave me the opening I needed in order to finish Garchomp off with dragon pulse. Most intense fight I've had in over a decade if not ever.
They made it more intense which makes it more scary and puts more pressure on us.
She's intimidating enough.
A couple days ago, i finally beat the game, and yeah, the Cynthia battle was extremely tough as most people say, i lost on my first attempt and i didn't even get to her Garchomp, her Garchomp isn't the only strong thing she has, her other pokemon are pretty tough too, on my second attempt, i got through her pokemon and finally encountered the devilish Garchomp, all my pokemon could not outspeed it and it kept using earthquake, so i kept reviving my pokemon until she ran out of earthquakes, finally her earthquakes ran out when i revived my Infernape, she used Dragon Claw which did a lot, i full restore my Infernape and than she uses poison jab which didn't do a lot, so this was my chance, i used Close Combat and got it in the yellow, she used poison jab again and than i hit the last close combat and killed it, what a battle!
game, set, lipstick, match!
"Champion Cynthia sent out Garchomp"
No! You can't run from a trainer battle.
"The opposing Garchomp used Earthquake!"
NO! YOU CAN'T RUN FROM A TRAINER BATTLE!
Still can't believe this was the second Pokémon game I ever played and haven't to go through this was hard and when this came out, I knew she was going to be tough and man it was but to my surprise after years of practicing and learning I myself I'm not kidding actually beat Cynthia on my first attempt I didn't think I could but it proves that years of playing Pokémon you can become the very best like no one ever was.
Me: "With my full knowledge of competitive Pokemon, I managed to beat Cynthia easily. My long nightmare... is over.
Cynthia in the rematches: "Are you sure about that?"
And then there's Volo in Legends Arceus