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    I had a week to get my armour ready for re-enacting the Battle of Tewkesbury. This started with one day in the armourers' workshop.
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  • @ered203
    @ered203 2 роки тому +533

    Dented my armor?!?
    Sounds like a perfectly fine reason to declare a multi-generation feud.

  • @GaMeR11sHoT
    @GaMeR11sHoT 2 роки тому +765

    Not only is your armour battle-ready, but it's battle-damaged too! Doesn't get more period than this!

    • @neilwilson5785
      @neilwilson5785 2 роки тому +74

      Lindy thinks that gits are 1-2% of people. My experience is that 10-20% is nearer the mark.

    • @michelguevara151
      @michelguevara151 2 роки тому +19

      @@neilwilson5785 20% easy.

    • @mandowarrior123
      @mandowarrior123 2 роки тому +7

      @@neilwilson5785 nah, simply 90% of people stayed at home.

    • @ChIGuY-town22_
      @ChIGuY-town22_ 2 роки тому

      @@neilwilson5785 truth ..

    • @VEE727
      @VEE727 2 роки тому +12

      Agreed. Keep it. Every dent and scratch is a war time story haha. Keep it

  • @andysmodelandstuff4306
    @andysmodelandstuff4306 2 роки тому +417

    I am glad to see that you managed to get to terms again and that the same armourer got to finish the job. Allways sad to end a relationship on a low note, happy to see things have improved

    • @svensorensen7693
      @svensorensen7693 2 роки тому +77

      I hope it was a simple misunderstanding (we only got Lindybeige's version of events, after all,) and not that he felt bullied into it because of the video. I saw more than a few comments under the last video saying that their experience with the armorer was much better.

    • @coryparni3620
      @coryparni3620 2 роки тому +23

      Should of sorted it with a sword fight

    • @forkingdom-side3049
      @forkingdom-side3049 2 роки тому +2

      I respect this man highly!!!

    • @gasfrommyanusi0i594
      @gasfrommyanusi0i594 2 роки тому +8

      was that the same armorer as was referenced in the other Lindy video??

    • @benryan4976
      @benryan4976 2 роки тому +3

      Was there a issue with the gentleman from white rose?

  • @rodchallis8031
    @rodchallis8031 2 роки тому +34

    The way to fix the dent is to remember what the guy who dented it looked like, and wait for the next Tewkesbury. Deal him a whopping great blow, and when he's lying on the ground, say something uncomplimentary about his mother. I'm taking this from my experience playing hockey, which, granted, is a little more brutal than medieval warfare.

  • @Mode-Selektor
    @Mode-Selektor 2 роки тому +783

    I'd be a bit more concerned that someone is hitting people with such force to cause that much damage to plate armor at a reenactment (as apposed to a tournament).

    • @misterjder1.831
      @misterjder1.831 2 роки тому +167

      Just think if the person hitting underestimated the thickness and quality of the armor.
      He could've done severe damage to the person / Lindybeige!
      Awful people out there.

    • @Mode-Selektor
      @Mode-Selektor 2 роки тому +92

      @@misterjder1.831 That's what I was thinking. Or if he he had moved his arm in the path of the blow. As good as the armor may be, if the breastplate took that much damage, his arm could have been injured.

    • @Daedrex
      @Daedrex 2 роки тому +84

      It's not a very good reenactment if nobody dies

    • @rmsgrey
      @rmsgrey 2 роки тому +107

      Yeah, I'm not sure "he was a shiny" stands up as a defense against murder charges

    • @mandowarrior123
      @mandowarrior123 2 роки тому +5

      @@Daedrex technically true xD

  • @Drachinifel
    @Drachinifel 2 роки тому +434

    It was great to fight alongside you, hopefully again next year!

    • @derrickstorm6976
      @derrickstorm6976 2 роки тому +15

      Drach! ❤ Hope you make a video on the event too, or at least a quick recap on a QnA :)

    • @Fenristhegreat
      @Fenristhegreat 2 роки тому +14

      Oh, cool, Drach and Lindy fighting side by side!

    • @france895
      @france895 2 роки тому +1

      figth???'??HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

    • @neilwilson5785
      @neilwilson5785 2 роки тому +3

      You all looked pretty intimidating in the photos. The future king is surely safe from harm!

    • @france895
      @france895 2 роки тому +1

      @@frankbarnwell____ nerd

  • @ZacharyEvans
    @ZacharyEvans 2 роки тому +263

    It was great to meet you Lloyd. I was very impressed by how you coped in the full armour and the heat. I think I may need to take up dance as a fitness regime before next Tewkesbury

    • @lindybeige
      @lindybeige  2 роки тому +145

      It was interesting that people said that they felt it in their legs afterwards. My legs were fine. It's usually my back that complains the most, but that's because I knackered it quite badly in my twenties.

    • @neilwilson5785
      @neilwilson5785 2 роки тому +32

      Dancing would be a great exercise for this. Knights would, of course, do a lot of dancing. It's a cultural thing that everyone does a lot. And you would get fit and supple.

    • @michelguevara151
      @michelguevara151 2 роки тому +9

      @@lindybeige the knacker back of my twenties is a bit off too.
      still, 51 yesterday and ever foolhardy. 🙂

    • @micahphilson
      @micahphilson 2 роки тому +3

      @@lindybeige I'm in my mid 20s, and my back is now much better after I knackered it in my early teens

    • @mandowarrior123
      @mandowarrior123 2 роки тому +14

      @@neilwilson5785 some dancing such as cossack was a demonstration of their athleticism and martial prowess, particularly being able to mount a horse in a single bound. Some dance styles are descended from martial arts. many more are just for fun of course.

  • @DietrichvonSachsen
    @DietrichvonSachsen 2 роки тому +391

    Perhaps my perspective is a bit skewed, what with being an SCA (rattan) combatant, but anyone hitting carbon heat-treated steel hard enough to do that with one blow? That's not only no accident, that's just dangerous.
    I think you should listen to your armourer for this one. Get it repaired properly once. You'll be kicking yourself otherwise.

    • @raymondfoster9326
      @raymondfoster9326 2 роки тому +18

      I did SCA here in Australia and we were taught to hit as hard as we possibly could...
      Reenactment is different though, it should be gentle.

    • @wizardapprenticeIV
      @wizardapprenticeIV 2 роки тому +1

      i suppose its less a single blow, but repeatedly hitting the same spot and weakening it over time. to the point where it just takes one hit to crack it.

    • @wizardapprenticeIV
      @wizardapprenticeIV 2 роки тому +17

      ignore that, i thought you where referring to the knuckle piece back at the workshop, the cuirass piece was definitely a deliberate act of malice .

    • @PaletoB
      @PaletoB 2 роки тому

      Yea get it repaired correctly by a professional, unless you want a "battle worn" look.

    • @kenbrown2808
      @kenbrown2808 2 роки тому +11

      @@raymondfoster9326 in An Tir, hitting as hard as you possibly can is considered uncouth. as it is said, "we're here to kill our friends, not to injure them." still, I've seen helmets get creased, and that also takes a very high degree of gitness.

  • @turinturambar8622
    @turinturambar8622 2 роки тому +240

    At an American civil war reenactment, I ran out of cartridges so I "took a hit" and went face down. Then the line behind advanced over me and someone stepped on my canteen and put a great big dent in it. But now I have a story, and a canteen with less water capacity.

    • @ChIGuY-town22_
      @ChIGuY-town22_ 2 роки тому +13

      Your canteen maybe cost 40 bucks a little hard to compare apples and oranges there. Imagine your canteen cost 100 Grand and someone stepped on it I'm sure you'd have a little bit more than a story... you'd have a lawsuit.

    • @turinturambar8622
      @turinturambar8622 2 роки тому +95

      @@ChIGuY-town22_ I wasn't complaining or comparing, just
      telling of my experience, sheesh.
      P.S. His armor cost probably around 10k

    • @panzerparty6510
      @panzerparty6510 2 роки тому +24

      WW2 reenactor here, I have 2 stories.
      The first one, me and my friend are shooting videos of ourselves in close quarters combat, he as the british, me as the german. His helmet recieves some notable damage, mine only minor. We were not thrilled after this, but hey, to this day he goes around telling the story of "that time my helmet got dented by a german trying to stab me", so it was cool in the end.
      Second one, me and a few friends are at a re-enactment, and there's this guy. He's the "in the know" guy there. He is the guy who knows more than all of us (and the same guy that had us fight with nonsensical tactics he made up and created a squad composed of 3 squad leaders, 3 machinegunners and 2 riflemen. yeah. a moron). Not only was he a moron, he was also an absolutely obnoxious prick. He took a big ol' stick and started bonking me on the head with it. Repeatedly. Bop. Bop bop. Bop bop bop, bop bop. I had my helmet on, granted, but god it sucked. The thing rang like a bell with my head in it, not nice, and my padding is somewhat lacking, so i got somewhat hurt in the process. I am NOT a guy that snaps, but I came to a point where I thought "if you touch me one more with that fucking thing i'm calling the fucking police on you".
      Luckily my helmet was unhurt, but if it were I believe I would have called the cops. That's when I broke contacts with the re-enacting society organizing the event, making sure I let the organizer know in much detail what happened.

    • @turinturambar8622
      @turinturambar8622 2 роки тому +8

      @@panzerparty6510 yeah, It's not that easy finding the right reenactor group, my first we're just a bunch of dirty old men who sat around and drank all day 😂 I've always wanted to do WW reenacting, but not much of that that I can find.

    • @turinturambar8622
      @turinturambar8622 2 роки тому +8

      @@RobotJohny it's thick stainless steel i don't want to make more stess spots, I'll keep it for the memories. Need another one that's grey anyway if I want to join specific regiment's.

  • @neilwilson5785
    @neilwilson5785 2 роки тому +65

    It is interesting to see that the relationship between the armorer and the knight is a negotiation. Glad it worked out.

    • @madquest8
      @madquest8 2 роки тому +3

      A negotiation... backed up with lots of $$$

    • @meyr1992
      @meyr1992 12 днів тому

      armourer you git 🤬🤬

  • @Kraus-
    @Kraus- 2 роки тому +210

    If someone hit your sturdy armor hard enough to dent it that badly, they're seriously a danger to other participants. Like bruh it's not even a tournament. He's lucky your plate wasn't aluminium.

    • @nathanaelsmith3553
      @nathanaelsmith3553 2 роки тому +45

      Or what if the weapon had glanced off and caught someone somewhere exposed?

    • @Fyreye
      @Fyreye Рік тому +6

      If he were the type of git I expect: he probably did a few probing shots to gauge his git level thrust

    • @johnfitzalan3128
      @johnfitzalan3128 11 місяців тому +1

      He’s not really lucky that it’s not aluminium anyone walking onto Tewksbury without proper grade armour brings it on themselves. I would also say that it’s Tewksbury if your armour doesn’t have at least 3 chunks taken out of it you need to get more involved. I’ve used my vanbrace to catch two handed shots with war hammers and I’m still here.

    • @stefthorman8548
      @stefthorman8548 11 місяців тому

      @@johnfitzalan3128 seems like you're an dumb git, it's an reenactment, not an buhurt, not everyone can afford proper grade armor.

    • @Lilrob06
      @Lilrob06 7 місяців тому +1

      All armor dents That is what it is supposed to do instead of denting your body.

  • @harveypotts9259
    @harveypotts9259 2 роки тому +141

    The scratch is slightly cool in my opinion because it is a visual representation of the edge of a weapon very quickly hitting the armour and glancing off. Something that happened so quickly can put a story you can see and remember for so long. On the other hand the dent is not good at all and must be repaired.

    • @Stormskip
      @Stormskip 2 роки тому +7

      This is my take as well. It might not be the immaculate set that Lindybeige and envisioned and hoped for anymore, but it has some history now!

    • @david21216
      @david21216 2 роки тому +8

      Also thats how you stop being a shiny, get your armor worn, especially as it becomes more uniform and spread over as he keeps reenacting. Like real armor less like shiny metal

    • @HeliodromusScorpio
      @HeliodromusScorpio 2 роки тому +2

      Scholars dont find this stuff cool

    • @amazin7006
      @amazin7006 2 роки тому +8

      @@HeliodromusScorpio Scholars dont find anything cool

    • @Vinemaple
      @Vinemaple 2 роки тому +2

      Yeah, but he'll always see the smirk on that git's face, and the story will be about a git doing something a-purpose that he wasn't supposed to, so, not a fun story to tell and retell. Lloyd will have to make up an epic lie, instead.

  • @andreluislimaa
    @andreluislimaa 2 роки тому +59

    the "i'm gonna check wondrium to see if they have an armor repair course" was one of the best unexpected transitions i've ever seen!! XD

    • @kenbrown2808
      @kenbrown2808 2 роки тому +2

      and obviously, Lindy now has a project to move on to.

    • @bjornnilsson1827
      @bjornnilsson1827 2 роки тому +2

      I also liked the "oh, and by the way they're my sponsor" comment a little bit later. As if there was anyone still watching that hadn't figured that out. But I guess it's in the UA-cam code that you have to actually SAY it.

  • @woodslore8537
    @woodslore8537 2 роки тому +107

    I once spent a long time on a kite shield. Was rather proud of it. A "git" as you called it smashed it. No other reason than, "I wanted to".

    • @andrewdriver3318
      @andrewdriver3318 2 роки тому +21

      It's a perverse compliment. They were envious and did not have the capacity to be happy for someone else. These types also tend to be people that have never been punched in the mouth before.

    • @woodslore8537
      @woodslore8537 Рік тому

      @@andrewdriver3318 I punched him in the mouth with the broken shield

  • @102ndsmirnov7
    @102ndsmirnov7 2 роки тому +54

    He's finally doing it.
    I remember first watching a video about armour so many years ago.

    • @user-ms7gt2km5f
      @user-ms7gt2km5f Рік тому +2

      Next we might see a finished illustrated novel!

  • @dogwalker666
    @dogwalker666 2 роки тому +68

    Just what I needed to relax, Watching someone making armour in the 21 century, Thank you.

    • @johnqpublic2718
      @johnqpublic2718 2 роки тому

      Armour that is completely defenseless against 21st century arms- it's truly nerdy.

    • @lindgrenland
      @lindgrenland 2 роки тому +5

      @@johnqpublic2718 Yes, so I'm going for depleted uranium for my suit

    • @shockwave6213
      @shockwave6213 2 роки тому +4

      @@johnqpublic2718 On the same level of nerdy as brass and wood instruments when the sounds can be created digitally if you ask me. But people still love it.

  • @jonathanenglish9146
    @jonathanenglish9146 2 роки тому +116

    I think you should repair the dent, but leave the gouge. Sort of like the Spartans, who's cloaks are worn and frayed over the course of their military career, and it might help you avoid the gits who are on the look out for a "shiny" next time.

    • @AlexFlodder
      @AlexFlodder 2 роки тому +8

      The same happened with old judo trainers, they washed their suits, but not their belts. The greener/browner/blacker the belt, the more experience they had.

    • @JackVermicelli
      @JackVermicelli 2 роки тому +2

      Whose.

    • @maqywhaq
      @maqywhaq 2 роки тому

      TBF, for someone who did that the first time deliberately, the git would probably see the repaired dent and take it as an inviting target...

  • @DVHeld
    @DVHeld 2 роки тому +38

    We call them "resentful" here. A kind of nastier, more evil version of the "envious"

  • @bentaye
    @bentaye 2 роки тому +144

    This probably happened to real knights on their first day wearing their shinny armour to battle. And they were pissed too.

    • @myparceltape1169
      @myparceltape1169 2 роки тому +11

      Hence the "Black Prince".

    • @rmsgrey
      @rmsgrey 2 роки тому +25

      It'd be a lot worse to be the one guy coming out of a real battle with totally undamaged armour - there'd be a lot of questions and/or speculation about how you kept your armour pristine...

    • @portkapul1283
      @portkapul1283 2 роки тому +18

      i recall that many breastplate were bullet proofed/ crossbow proofed by shooting at it, and the resulting dent occasionally was then decorated. so proudly dented intentionally possibly before ever being purchased

    • @knightshousegames
      @knightshousegames 2 роки тому +26

      I mean, if someone dents your armor in a real battle, you have the logical recourse of just killing that person in response
      Can't get away with that at a re-enactment...I don't think....

    • @WyvernYT
      @WyvernYT 2 роки тому +5

      Also, the guy with the shiny never-seen-battle armor might well be a kid who's a softer target than veterans in equivalent kit.

  • @sunnmringenriksheim7812
    @sunnmringenriksheim7812 2 роки тому +16

    It is good to see that this project had a happy ending in spite of a turbulent process.

  • @RicArmstrong
    @RicArmstrong 2 роки тому +20

    As I watch this, I keep thinking how they made this armor before power tools. They were amazing craftsman back then. I have immense respect for them.

    • @Ninja-Alinja
      @Ninja-Alinja 2 роки тому

      Without taking anything away from them, I assume the metal was lower quality und easier to work than modern steel.

    • @opiwaran354
      @opiwaran354 2 роки тому +7

      @@Ninja-Alinja stainless steel is harder to work than other types but this isn't that. Modern, homogenous steel ist easier to work than "old", lower quality steel.

    • @derrickstorm6976
      @derrickstorm6976 2 роки тому +1

      Making of one set of armor would take almost as long as it would take Lindy to upload a full series of videos!

    • @Likexner
      @Likexner 2 роки тому +7

      @You just lost the game They would use water-powered wheels whenever possible. They also had pedal-powered grinding machines.

  • @erichammer5502
    @erichammer5502 2 роки тому +17

    Glad to see the armor got sorted along with the relationship with the armorer!
    It occurs to me looking at that dent and accompanying gouge in the heat treated steel that if the git had missed and caught say a chain mail area, you probably would have been needing a hospital. Considering you were padded up underneath, hitting hard enough to have the weapon dig into hardened steel (must have been very pointy) instead of skating, pushing back the plate into firm enough contact to dent, and moving you back at the same time, that pointy bit would have gone through chain and pierced you. Maybe not deeply if it didn't split the ring, but there would have been blood.
    That git needs to be removed from the hobby. Possibly violently.

  • @TheOldBlackShuckyDog
    @TheOldBlackShuckyDog Рік тому +3

    Glad you and Dave sorted it out, seems like a nice chap

  • @ShagShaggio
    @ShagShaggio 2 роки тому +4

    Hey I'm glad the armourer was willing to work with you to get your armour ready for the event.
    Bummer about the dent tho, hopefully it won't be too much of a pain to fix.
    Cheers. 💚

  • @auzor5900
    @auzor5900 2 роки тому +17

    The one way this could happen accidentally, imo, is if the opponent slips and falls forward into you, just as he's going for a thrust (and doesn't let go of his weapon...)
    looking at the gash, into heat-treated high carbon armor... if that is from 'accidentally over-tapping' the opponent, how on earth would armor have had any hope vs a lance thrust from cavalry?
    I hope everyone there had plated armor, because eating that kind of 'tap' into chainmail with light padding would have done more than shoving someone backwards.
    Imagine such a 'tap' glancing upwards into the throat.

  • @BenWillock
    @BenWillock 2 роки тому +27

    Good on Dave for fixing his mess.

  • @PipBoy3k
    @PipBoy3k 2 роки тому +58

    Dave's 'new' apprentice looks to be in his 60s.

    • @philhughes3882
      @philhughes3882 2 роки тому +16

      He’s on his 48th year. Only eight more and he’ll be qualified.

  • @Fenristhegreat
    @Fenristhegreat 2 роки тому +14

    I'm so relieved you got some of the changes to the armour that you wanted.

  • @bastisonnenkind
    @bastisonnenkind 2 роки тому +8

    I think the best thing that came from that hit is: We all know now that this armor really works!

  • @andyedwards9222
    @andyedwards9222 2 роки тому +11

    Over the years my harness has acquired a number of dents, most I chalk up to acceptable wear and tear. Most reenactors are competent combatants that know what they are doing and modify the blow to suit the occassion. All blows are meant to be controlled. Some on the other hand are decidedly worrying.
    My harness is well made and fits me well. Two bits of damage it has taken really concerned me. One of my tassets has a horizontal 10mm deep dent on the inside edge that could only have been made by truly hard swung weapon. The other is on the side plate on my knee, that was hit hard enough to bend it into a taco. Neither did any damage to me, the armour worked but it could have. If the blow had missed the plate somehow or the armour had been weak it would have caused a serious injury.
    A friend of mine suffered broken ribs when a "git" aimed a hard thrust at his breastplate and missed and hit the arm pit. Another time I was fighting an "armoured" fighter only to discover his brigandine was just a fabric vest with decorative studs.
    I guess the lesson is always moderate your blows, fight as tho your opponent is unarmoured.

  • @scholagladiatoria
    @scholagladiatoria 2 роки тому +7

    It was a great weekend, I'm glad you managed to get everything working in time and join us. Armour needs continual tweaks and improvements, but you are getting there now and your armour is currently working better than a lot of peoples'.

  • @jacobenot5753
    @jacobenot5753 Рік тому +2

    “A knight in shining armour is a man who has never had his metal truly tested.”
    (I know it’s actually spelled “mettle”. The pun was intended.)

  • @rodricksage5963
    @rodricksage5963 2 роки тому +4

    Lindy has made it a long way, since the old WW2 videos days, good to say you still around.

  • @nathanaelsmith3553
    @nathanaelsmith3553 2 роки тому +32

    It's sad when anything pristine becomes spoiled, but on the other hand, from a philosophical point of view, if your armour never took a beating then it would not be fulfilling it's potential. You now have the dubious honour of having experienced beeing saved from fatal injury. Imagine what would have happened if your armour had not been there (actually don't). Perhaps on one level you might be able to appreciate it more than you otherwise would do. Cold comfort I know.
    What a git.

  • @dayvancowboi9135
    @dayvancowboi9135 2 роки тому +2

    glad it was properly hardened armor and you were not hurt

  • @MiaogisTeas
    @MiaogisTeas 2 роки тому +2

    That is a very deep gouge and dent. That was a LOT of force.

  • @anttitheinternetguy3213
    @anttitheinternetguy3213 2 роки тому +67

    This armourer, he must Be a different Chap than The original one? I remember you And him had a falling out. And you are dashing good sir, in your shining armour.
    On unrelated note, dont know If you ever read this but you were My inspiration to start sewing medieval (14th-15th century) clothes last Summer, i discovered i Have a talent For it And im making myself a yellow-green woolen cotehardie at The moment. So thank you!

    • @paistinlasta1805
      @paistinlasta1805 2 роки тому +21

      He seems to be the same guy from the earlier armour videos

    • @chuckmiller7294
      @chuckmiller7294 2 роки тому +1

      What did the fall out about

    • @Ninja-Alinja
      @Ninja-Alinja 2 роки тому +5

      @@chuckmiller7294 Watch his last armor video. Over quite many things actually.

    • @anttitheinternetguy3213
      @anttitheinternetguy3213 2 роки тому

      @@paistinlasta1805 i see! Thank you. Im glad If they worked out their differences

    • @ice4cow
      @ice4cow 2 роки тому +16

      It seems that it's the same guy. Maybe some comments from viewers made him understand that he is visible online, maybe Lloyd had some more cash, and maybe all the falling out wasn't as bad as it seemed.

  • @panzerparty6510
    @panzerparty6510 2 роки тому +10

    Comment from a fellow re-enactor, if that helps, I think that dent looks amazing! Really looks like some prick tried to kill you (not far off reality i suppose) and I think it looks superb in a medieval piece of armor. It looks used, it looks believable. I 100% understand that getting such things that way sucks (I do speak from experience here, if I see that guy on the street again I'm punching him all the way to the hospital) but at least there is an upside.
    Pricks.
    Cheers!

  • @jacobk1552
    @jacobk1552 2 роки тому +35

    To be honest, seeing Lindy in this armour got me questioning my loyalty to my Lord and sovereign.

    • @virgilxavier1
      @virgilxavier1 Рік тому +3

      I'm sure Lindy's intention was not to suborn treason. God Save the Queen

  • @danielburgess7785
    @danielburgess7785 2 роки тому +5

    At a major university in the State of Maryland (check us out we have the best flag) there was an underground group that did live steel [pointy pointy slice and dice]. No gits as they're easy to weed out and the cost of good armor/weapons prevented the Trust Fund Babies from taking up the sport on a lark. Members were strongly encouraged to make their own kit. Do the chain-mail knitting, how to work with leather, then on to small bits of steel armor. After +/- 18 months you knew everyone and they knew you quite well.

  • @micahphilson
    @micahphilson 2 роки тому +4

    2:08 Just reminds me of
    "Unless the next bloke we run into is armed with a can opener, I'd say we're good to go."
    _Cait, Fallout 4_

  • @VashGames
    @VashGames 2 роки тому +3

    Three cheers for the armorer! When they were working on the holes for helmet, it looked like he was installing an absolutely wicked headbutt weapon (6:00)
    A shame about some re-enactors intentionally looking to damage another persons gear. I would heed the advice of the armorer regarding that damage.

  • @GeneralGiffel
    @GeneralGiffel Рік тому +1

    Good to see that you two made peace.

  • @gorbalsboy
    @gorbalsboy 2 роки тому +8

    The Cretan that put the dent in the armour I daresay he enjoys pushing over little girls and pulling the wings off flies! And as for the excuse makers ,dry your eyes ,some people are just shits stop apologizing for them it only encourages them. Sounds like a great event, well done to all who took part, children everywhere will love you for it

  • @ptonpc
    @ptonpc 2 роки тому +3

    Good to see your armourer managed to get it ready in time. As for the damage, if it doesn't affect the integrity of the armour, then leave it as a battle scar. Otherwise get it fixed properly.

  • @mr.dalerobinson
    @mr.dalerobinson 2 роки тому +3

    As always, Lindybeige is providing a public service.
    the audio from 7:23 to 8:01 should be played by a DM when a D&D party suggest that their party of mixed adventurers, 'sneak up' on anything.

  • @Neptune0404
    @Neptune0404 2 роки тому +1

    If the gouge was to be fixed up a bit so as to not be glaring, then it would look quite a bit like a proofing mark. And even if the gouge is left it still works as such (I know a proofing mark would not be period accurate, but the concept still works). So while I understand the want to fix it right away, I think it looks "intentional" enough that it could be left until you either have an opportunity to more practically visit your armorer, or you have enough other nicks and bumps that it warrens a visit anyway. But most importantly, CONGRATULATIONS ON HAVING COMPLETED THE ARMOR!

  • @jaysenvoss4065
    @jaysenvoss4065 2 роки тому

    This is probably my favorite series of yours, man, I love the insights on armor smithing.

  • @lostxj
    @lostxj 2 роки тому +27

    I would suggest you take pride in your authentic battle damage. You aren't just some prissy fop son of a wealthy baron flitting about in your shiny new armor anymore. You are a battle hardened soldier !.

    • @strellettes8511
      @strellettes8511 2 роки тому +2

      Bro I get it but this kind of craftsmanship costs thousands and thousands of dollars. This suit was probably over 5k

    • @Osvath97
      @Osvath97 2 роки тому +2

      The sons of barons were highly overrepresented as hardened professional soldiers... This is the Middle Ages we are talking about. In fact, the etymological origins of "baron" is literally "soldier". People need to study actual medieval history instead of going off the Hollywood conception of the Middle Ages.

  • @ChattinSquit
    @ChattinSquit 2 роки тому +3

    Ah so you two sorted out your differences then. I'm glad to see that you finally got your armour the way you wanted it.

  • @nathanbutcher1
    @nathanbutcher1 2 роки тому +1

    After years of waiting I’m so glad we can finally see your armour and live vicariously through you!!
    Pity about the dent though it does remind me of a test shot dent like the later armours.

  • @alchemander
    @alchemander 2 роки тому +11

    So I have frequently seen people stating something along the lines of "Well Actually, plate armor was made to fit really well and wouldn't impede your movements. SO having a penalty to stealth is Unrealistic." But it is pretty clear that when moving in plate you would still make much more noise than when moving in cloth or leather. So I think losing stealth is perfectly reasonable.

    • @staceygram5555
      @staceygram5555 2 роки тому +1

      Also, it _does_ impede your movement.

  • @comradezero
    @comradezero 2 роки тому +8

    A proper knight would have his armorer fix it, so it's perfectly historically appropriate to do the same. It's a business expense and a perfect prompt for a video on the subject of repairing armor and how high-maintenance it must have been. Don't have him hide it too well; battle scars should be proudly displayed.

  • @rayfraser1773
    @rayfraser1773 2 роки тому +4

    Good to see that your armourer has become a little more congenial than he was in the not so distant past.

    • @MrSquark
      @MrSquark 2 роки тому

      Looked like a different armourer, unless I'm mistaken.

  • @markedis5902
    @markedis5902 2 роки тому +2

    Very glad that your armourer sorted out the issues

  • @charlesflint9048
    @charlesflint9048 2 роки тому

    I am so glad that there are still craftsmen making these pieces. Thanks Lloyd for showing this; very impressive armour!. BTW that dent in your armour would have taken some force, if that had got through a gap instead, I dread to think what could have happened.

  • @BarokaiRein
    @BarokaiRein 2 роки тому +18

    Good that you two got everything fixed. Would be weird to have to go to a different blacksmith in order to adjust someone else's work.

  • @ltd4517
    @ltd4517 2 роки тому +6

    Finally! An armor episode!

  • @matbillings2533
    @matbillings2533 2 роки тому +2

    Oh man I laughed so hard when you showed all the power tools tangled together! I keep threatening where I work that "One of these days I'm just going to take all the power cords and make one super cord!"

  • @Semper_Iratus
    @Semper_Iratus 2 роки тому +1

    The holy trinity of any craftsman, time, tools, and talent.

  • @alanwortman3594
    @alanwortman3594 2 роки тому +13

    Given what you've got there and the kind of damage it's taken, I'd say heat, planishing out the dent, welding infill for the gouge, and a new round of heat treating is what it is going to take to get it fixed the right way.
    The guy who hit you is a dangerous asshole who shouldn't be allowed to play anymore.
    Best of luck, Lindy.

  • @rascally_ryan
    @rascally_ryan 2 роки тому +8

    For TTRPG purposes, can you put on the full kit and try sneaking around so we can see how easy or impossible it is? Maybe see if ‘NPC Guard’ will detect your approach? 😄

  • @darthfader733
    @darthfader733 2 роки тому +1

    Wonderful video took me back to my SCA days and armoring up for a Sunday post brunch melee.

  • @personious_k
    @personious_k 2 роки тому

    that's the first ad i haven't skipped through in months! well made.
    also, i really liked your story, and your armorer's shop!

  • @redsimonyt
    @redsimonyt 2 роки тому +14

    Hey Lindybeige, what happened to your friend who travelled to Ukraine to fight there (you told us in a video)? Can we get an update?

    • @horsemumbler1
      @horsemumbler1 2 роки тому

      He was dying and went to a meat grinder to die. Put two and two together.

  • @G_Zero127
    @G_Zero127 2 роки тому +5

    You could get a welder to fill the gouge then grind it flat to match then you dont lose any material. You would be surprised how a good welder can match the steel and you wont even notice it was ever damaged.

  • @DconBlueZ
    @DconBlueZ 2 роки тому

    Thanks for the video, always enjoy watching!

  • @MadayMaday
    @MadayMaday 2 роки тому

    Looks amazing!

  • @Angrypolack
    @Angrypolack 2 роки тому +36

    How about we race to finish “In Search of Hannibal”?

    • @ohmyshou1der
      @ohmyshou1der 2 роки тому +7

      That elusive Hannibal keeps slipping away.

    • @kruesae22
      @kruesae22 2 роки тому +7

      Hannibal is on the finishing line. Lindy had the full script given to the graphics guys a few months a year.

    • @FrankYooToob
      @FrankYooToob 2 роки тому +11

      I was about to post exactly that. As much as I enjoyed watching his videos in the past, the feeling of being scammed keeps me from watching his videos. They just pop up in my timeline to remind me to never use kickstarter again.

    • @GardenFootCreature
      @GardenFootCreature 2 роки тому +2

      @@FrankYooToob scammed? Hmmmmm

    • @IamOutOfNames
      @IamOutOfNames 2 роки тому +1

      It'll be a marathon...

  • @celticperspective5183
    @celticperspective5183 2 роки тому +4

    Sir Lloyd of Beige

  • @thothtahuti5509
    @thothtahuti5509 2 роки тому

    It's awesome to get another "biege video"! my life has been missing your videos Lloyd, so happy for another to come out! I saw on the chat section from somewhere else (I think it was shadaversity, talking about UA-cam burnout...) and saw on the replies to your comment, that a massive number of people had been auto-unsubbed from your channel, it sucks because you are my favorite "youtuber" and my day is always better after watching a new lindybiege video, you deserve more subbs, not less than you actually get :/

  • @alexianodemaodici3977
    @alexianodemaodici3977 2 роки тому +1

    Love the pure improv when the cameraman didn't stop recording!

  • @zkkaik
    @zkkaik 2 роки тому +4

    The dent was made without any heat so there should be no issue to hammer it out cold either. I'd say find an armourer willing to give you a lesson how to hammer out dents from your armor. Leave the scratch how it is after buffing

    • @shockwave6213
      @shockwave6213 2 роки тому +2

      Hammering out a dent in a hardened, heat treated piece of armor while cold is not a good idea. It causes undue stress and weakens the armor at best and could crack it at worst. Cold hammering a dent out of mild steel is fine, but high carbon steel used in armor needs heat to properly repair. It may even need to be normalized and rehardened in that spot.

  • @johnfitzalan3128
    @johnfitzalan3128 2 роки тому +6

    Reenactment fighting is tricky, it means a massive range of things to different people from pokey pokey to fights that I’ve seen full contact people wince at. Problem is big events mix it all in, there are people I’ll fight full speed at but only people I know are not to armour proud. What is the armour for? Fighting or showing my armour is very much fighting these days and it’s mangled in places but I wouldn’t assume the person I was hitting had the same ideal unless I knew them. Tweks was hard hitting and the elbows of my arms have a few massive gouges and while I don’t care the person doing it wouldn’t have known that.

  • @davidbendig961
    @davidbendig961 2 роки тому

    take the torch to the dent, go to the car fixing place of your choice and have them spotweld a tab to the dent. After using a slidehammer to pull out the dent, just fill the scratch with solder or weld and pretty up the area, maybe put an ornamental bit on top to hide it ever existed.

  • @Traderjoe
    @Traderjoe 2 роки тому +1

    In my old job, there was a guy who would see you come into work with brand new shoes or sneakers (trainers) and immediately come over and stand on your toes and fain an accident in not noticing you. Just to mess up your shiny new shoes.

  • @chemistryofquestionablequa6252
    @chemistryofquestionablequa6252 2 роки тому +3

    Great flecktarn pants on the metal worker. I have some and they're awesome. Comfortable and durable.

  • @jmvt3
    @jmvt3 2 роки тому +40

    Is it so bad to have a dent in your armor? I'm sure plenty of knights and soldiers had dents in their armor. Just makes it look more authentic to me.

    • @markfergerson2145
      @markfergerson2145 2 роки тому +37

      The dent will tend to capture points and is weakened from its original condition. Best to restore it for strength and safety.

    • @JackPorter
      @JackPorter 2 роки тому +8

      If you have the money to get a full suit of armor formed from scratch, you should hopefully have enough money for both upkeep and reperation. And the squire to put it on obviously

    • @ChIGuY-town22_
      @ChIGuY-town22_ 2 роки тому

      Says the person who doesn't have a suit of armor, you wouldn't mind if I came up and smashed the s*** out of the hood on your car, it'd give it character right...lol

    • @Charok1
      @Charok1 2 роки тому +4

      I agree. Makers of things often dent and use chemicals and things to make their pieces look older and more worn for asthetics. It's like the old saying of not taking an untested blade (armor in this case) into battle.

    • @fus132
      @fus132 2 роки тому

      @@Charok1 I'd be seeing you at the hospital if someone were to hit that spot on the chest plate again, and this time make an actual hole through it, as well as in everything past.

  • @bartdebaere2252
    @bartdebaere2252 2 роки тому +2

    aaah can so relate to the "shiny" stuff. Been there, seen it, got the scratches and dents 😅

  • @johanlindwall7295
    @johanlindwall7295 2 роки тому

    Great video as usual, missad Tewkesbury this year but will return next year. Hope you will be back next year as well Lindy.

  • @sirfox950
    @sirfox950 2 роки тому +10

    A point about fixing armour

  • @selectionn
    @selectionn 2 роки тому +30

    I wonder exactly how long it will take to get the full suit of armour on when its done? Also damn that armour looks so good.

    • @MarkS806
      @MarkS806 2 роки тому +3

      That's a lot of weld. And it will ruin the heat treatment all around the dent. Not a terrible idea but I think for something so valuable, it would be best to have it repaired properly.

    • @JackVermicelli
      @JackVermicelli 2 роки тому +2

      What had they said about a weld?

    • @MarkS806
      @MarkS806 2 роки тому

      Huh, I must have posted the reply on the wrong comment... there was another comment about how he could fill in the dent with weld.

  • @friendoftheshow8117
    @friendoftheshow8117 2 роки тому +1

    GET on with it! Yes, get ON with it!

  • @bishop9757
    @bishop9757 2 роки тому

    Sorry to hear that, hope it didn't put too much of a dampener on your time at Tewskesbury, it's such a great festival when I've gone (had to miss it again this year though).

  • @MaskofAgamemnon
    @MaskofAgamemnon 2 роки тому +6

    I can see why knights had multiple squires.

  • @brettbeatnick
    @brettbeatnick 2 роки тому +5

    Turn the dent into an opportunity. Love to see a video on how knights repaired and maintained their armour. It would be a real part of life for a knight and the smith. Definitely be something i would watch.

    • @AlbinoAxolotl
      @AlbinoAxolotl 2 роки тому

      Yeah I would love to know if any historical examples of armor repair exist! That would make a great video if so.

  • @DanCuthnama
    @DanCuthnama 2 роки тому +1

    I recognise that chap in the calendar 3:27 , it's Andy Deane of the Royal Armouries. He won the Easter joust this year. His armour is truly gorgeous too!

  • @vaxfantomen
    @vaxfantomen 2 роки тому +2

    With Lindy always skulking around the local renaissance fair I'm glad he finaly got some protection.
    It was only a matter of time that he was not clubbed and looted allready

  • @ice4cow
    @ice4cow 2 роки тому +13

    Hey Lloyd, the dent can be fixed and the gauge can be filled in and made invisible. Or, perhaps, it can even be filled in visibly to show the scar. Japanese art called kintsugi comes to mind.

  • @cIoudbank
    @cIoudbank 2 роки тому +5

    It's bizarre watching them make the armor, I feel like I could pick it up and snap it in half with just my fingers, doesnt seem life saving but very beautiful

    • @Wolf-Wolfman
      @Wolf-Wolfman 2 роки тому +4

      Just think, the steel in that armour is probably at least double the thickness of the steel in your car

    • @Kingdomkey123678
      @Kingdomkey123678 2 роки тому +5

      That’s just how good steel is, you don’t need very much of it to be impervious to a huge array of weapons

  • @Fedac1
    @Fedac1 2 роки тому +1

    I remember being 13 when I bought my first electric guitar, I would get super upset when it got any dents or scratches and I would be polishing it all the time. Then one day I told my guitar professor about my concerns of it getting damage but he told me that those where "battlescars". I always like to take good care of my stuff, but ever since then, when something like this happens I take it as a "battlescar" and its proof that it has been used.

  • @oleran4569
    @oleran4569 Рік тому

    That fellow and his mother likely barked with joy at that story for days.

  • @AtheAetheling
    @AtheAetheling 2 роки тому +7

    My dad used to have a very nice car indeed. Unfortunately whenever he went to the supermarket in it, there would be marks in it from people 'accidentally' opening their doors on it.
    People can be envious gits. I have no doubt that the armour was bashed on purpose, it's only a shame nobody saw to call it out.

  • @TaRAAASHBAGS
    @TaRAAASHBAGS 2 роки тому +3

    Now imagine forging this without electricity or machined tools. Historical craftsmen were astounding.

    • @Milamberinx
      @Milamberinx 2 роки тому +2

      The medieval armourer would make all his tools, including machine tools, he'd set up with a waterwheel somewhere for powered hammers, presses, drills, and lathes. Or if he were a camp follower he'd have a bunch of human arms to power his machines.

  • @georgececil-jones7046
    @georgececil-jones7046 2 роки тому

    It was good to see you at tewksbury and having marvious chats about armour and medieval fashion

  • @jakobfredriksson2272
    @jakobfredriksson2272 2 роки тому +1

    I'm happy you got in touch with your armourer again. The dent/gauge? It just looks awesome. Bragging about a perfect, shiny armour never used in battle is what a Frenchman would do.

  • @charlesk22
    @charlesk22 2 роки тому +8

    You, shad and skal have inspired me to soon start a armour enthusiast club with friends back home in my country when I return after graduation.

  • @greenmarcosu
    @greenmarcosu 2 роки тому +10

    Hello Lindybeige - since you like armor, medieval stuff, LARP, and presumably some fantasy elements - you should consider visiting Le Duche de Bicolline in Quebec, Canada. I think you would really enjoy the big week long faire and battle event that is held in August each year. This will be my 4th year. Maybe I will see you there in 2023?

  • @ScarletcraneThHunter
    @ScarletcraneThHunter 2 роки тому +1

    You can add metal back by welding in the gouge with some filler and the grinding appropriately. This will mess with the heat treatment of the breast however and the whole process will probably need a professional.

  • @ChIGuY-town22_
    @ChIGuY-town22_ 2 роки тому

    This reminds me of my friend who has an all original 442 1968, who brings his car to car shows. He had gotten hit in the front quarter panel, an passenger side door as another car backed into the next spot. I know my buddy replaced all the damaged parts, with all new original parts... that was not cheap, but it's his pride an joy. I imagine, that some of us feel the same way.