Are Muslims Under Siege By Secular Agendas? With Yusuf Ogston

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КОМЕНТАРІ • 205

  • @abdurrazzak2970
    @abdurrazzak2970 Місяць тому +55

    May Allah Bless and Reward Both of you in this Life and in the Hereafter.

  • @purposeful142
    @purposeful142 Місяць тому +21

    Colonial past, no education of real Islam, and inferiority complex have created lots of confusion and problems.

    • @_Mo-Ham_
      @_Mo-Ham_ Місяць тому +2

      Wetsern countries aren't the only ones with a colonial past.
      Educate yourself on the Ottoman Empire.

    • @yaqob3275
      @yaqob3275 Місяць тому

      What's the difference between you living in the west and them trying to live like the west?

    • @AJ-pc9gu
      @AJ-pc9gu 16 днів тому

      @@yaqob3275 what's the difference between an original and a plagiarist?

    • @yaqob3275
      @yaqob3275 15 днів тому

      @@AJ-pc9gu
      Secular paki here 😂

  • @harunsami2841
    @harunsami2841 Місяць тому +6

    Very timely & most relevant topic. I think Muslim leaders arround the world should rethink their policies.

  • @FreePalestine_____
    @FreePalestine_____ Місяць тому +12

    Best topic by far. We Muslims in Muslim majority country can't even criticize our secular 'government' imposed by the non Muslim countries.

    • @Johnston838
      @Johnston838 Місяць тому +2

      But you need secular Government and right to protest where you Muslim community are in minority right ....

    • @FreePalestine_____
      @FreePalestine_____ Місяць тому

      @@Johnston838 We can see how the protests are going. Police are targeting Muslim students for speaking up against the Zionism. So much for 'free speech' propaganda.

    • @Dalka-vc8rm
      @Dalka-vc8rm Місяць тому

      @@Johnston838we wouldn’t need if western countries never interfere, destroy and loot our countries.

    • @sucker4thewitch
      @sucker4thewitch 24 дні тому

      We christians, in a christian nation cannot even criticize our govt. which is under the spell of Islamists.

  • @tbear4291
    @tbear4291 Місяць тому +37

    Yes absolutely

    • @sucker4thewitch
      @sucker4thewitch 24 дні тому

      The reality is that secular nations are under siege by muslim agendas......for now

  • @bangabin
    @bangabin Місяць тому +7

    short answer, yes.
    it's happening to muslims in Indonesia which people try to divide muslim with ethno-cultural kind of islam in the name of "tolerancy".
    may Allah protect us all and unite us under the true teaching of Islam.

  • @boonefamily2160
    @boonefamily2160 Місяць тому +12

    So it boils down to money. Secularization is based on replacing religion with retail. Don't give your money to others in need, give your money to others who don't need it (the rich). Buy stuff you don't need, it will fill that void in your soul. We need to rethink secularism where life has no value other than how much money it can make. Very sad. I think Islam has the ability to balance the notions of spending on self and spending on others. If only those who are busy promoting secularism would be able to see the reason we are all here... to worship our creator.

  • @tomstory8502
    @tomstory8502 Місяць тому +15

    Great channel Paul 👍

  • @NadeemAkhtar-si9kb
    @NadeemAkhtar-si9kb Місяць тому +4

    Yes there's tendencies of westernism but young educated Muslims both male and female are growing in confidence to adopt Islamic views and to demonstrate Muslim identity

  • @1GratefulSlave.
    @1GratefulSlave. Місяць тому +15

    Narrated Thawban:
    The Prophet (ﷺ) said: The people will soon summon one another to attack you as people when eating invite others to share their dish. Someone asked: Will that be because of our small numbers at that time? He replied: No, you will be numerous at that time: but you will be scum and rubbish like that carried down by a torrent, and Allah will take fear of you from the breasts of your enemy and last enervation into your hearts. Someone asked: What is wahn (enervation). Messenger of Allah (ﷺ): He replied: Love of the world and dislike of death.
    Sunan Abu Dawud 4297
    حَدَّثَنَا

  • @boomerang2628
    @boomerang2628 Місяць тому +44

    There's no Muslim countries in this world now days

    • @almaskhan3049
      @almaskhan3049 Місяць тому +7

      Afghanistan?

    • @mukhtarolakunle8102
      @mukhtarolakunle8102 Місяць тому +1

      ​@@almaskhan3049 The don't implement the hudud.

    • @aishax01
      @aishax01 Місяць тому +4

      This is dangerous territory you are treading and its a disturbing claim

    • @mukhtarolakunle8102
      @mukhtarolakunle8102 Місяць тому +9

      @aishax01 I think he is trying to say that no country is implementing the Sharia, not that he is doing takfir of muslims in the Muslim countries.

    • @aishax01
      @aishax01 Місяць тому +8

      @@mukhtarolakunle8102 saying "the sharia isn't entirely implemented in every Muslim country" is very different to saying "there's no muslim countries"--may Allah guide us

  • @sheikmuhammad3894
    @sheikmuhammad3894 Місяць тому +2

    Yes. As is, we must ask ourselves how best to walk the road we are now on, and how best to deal with the challenges we will face. Emulating the frog in its well is not the best of solutions.

  • @extraordinary.verses
    @extraordinary.verses Місяць тому

    Spot on. important topic that will solve many of our problems.

  • @1OnlyOneOnlyOne1
    @1OnlyOneOnlyOne1 Місяць тому +3

    Yes. The answer is Yes.

  • @victorkey1218
    @victorkey1218 Місяць тому +2

    Jazakallah khairun brother ❤️

  • @mariokart6118
    @mariokart6118 Місяць тому +10

    “Christian’s walk with Pride “ is what the banner says outside the church near my son’s school. Very pro LGBT stance.

  • @mushtaqobaray7529
    @mushtaqobaray7529 Місяць тому +5

    Yashua renamed Jesus said by the fruits you shall know them.

  • @MuslimLifeHackers
    @MuslimLifeHackers Місяць тому +2

    Interesting point about globalization's influence.

  • @javedhassan555
    @javedhassan555 Місяць тому +1

    May Allah taala reward you both here and hereafter.

  • @pacman7959
    @pacman7959 Місяць тому +3

    Is this part of a bigger episode?

  • @shaziakhan7050
    @shaziakhan7050 27 днів тому

    A big fan..

  • @harmony7976
    @harmony7976 Місяць тому +3

    Muslims should learn from recent events and be exemplary people (fair, honest, decent, trustworthy, etc.) with their living style.

  • @Magdy-su5ws
    @Magdy-su5ws Місяць тому +3

    Secularism or liberalism is the separation between religion and life.religion suppose to be The truth the way and life

    • @Magdy-su5ws
      @Magdy-su5ws Місяць тому

      كان الناس أمة واحدة فاختلفوا
      وأول الاختلاف على الله وعلى دين الله

  • @publicpm8809
    @publicpm8809 Місяць тому +3

    True

  • @johnbrzykcy3076
    @johnbrzykcy3076 Місяць тому +2

    I think Christianity has also been "under siege by secular agendas". However we can't always blame the "Western" culture.
    It is complicated.
    By the way, I wasn't aware of the historical problems between Israel and Palestine because I seldom listen to the international News. In fact, i don't have much interest in politics.
    But no matter where we live, may God open our hearts to understand the suffering of the innocent Palestinians, especially the little children.
    Peace to all...

  • @enmei__________
    @enmei__________ Місяць тому +1

    Assalamualaikum. Can you make a video on"how I do research",

  • @AhmedSahal-kw7np
    @AhmedSahal-kw7np Місяць тому

    Great dialogue

  • @saifulazrinfoto9993
    @saifulazrinfoto9993 Місяць тому +1

    Social issues serve as a criterion for the acceptance of Western materialism.

  • @user-tz5hq1og8o
    @user-tz5hq1og8o Місяць тому +7

    Sir. Good.

  • @sonyaahmed4168
    @sonyaahmed4168 Місяць тому +1

    Hi, where can we follow Yusuf Ogston? I couldn't find him on twitter! Found his Medium page. thanks

  • @omarosama155
    @omarosama155 Місяць тому +3

    100%

  • @Faisalbinomar-qx9yx
    @Faisalbinomar-qx9yx Місяць тому

    There are 35 Surah that has the word Kitāb before the 1 0th ayat.
    Most of them (29 surah) has the word Kitāb before the 5th ayat.
    Kitāb - 35
    Kitāba - 9
    Kitābi - 20
    Kitābu - 6
    I might miss a few.
    Notification of education activity with existence by future, by present and by past, kitāba/i/u respectively.
    This book emphasises the importance of Education.
    In line with the function Q(Al Qurān) knowledge.
    Thanks all
    Assalamualaikum

  • @yasseralmohanna
    @yasseralmohanna Місяць тому +3

    Yes ofcaurse

  • @aurangzebhaque2973
    @aurangzebhaque2973 Місяць тому +2

    Sahih Muslim 2669 a
    Abu Sa'id al-Khudri reported Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) as saying:
    You would tread the same path as was trodden by those before you inch by inch and step by step so much so that if they had entered into the hole of the lizard, you would follow them in this also. We said: Allah's Messenger, do you mean Jews and Christians (by your words)" those before you"? He said: Who else (than those two religious groups)?

    • @aurangzebhaque2973
      @aurangzebhaque2973 Місяць тому +1

      Salaams. There is absolutely no doubt about the effect of secular/materialistic ideology on Eastern (read Muslim) countries. It is the same as it historically unfolded in post Enlightenment Europe. A distinct split of the psych, or compartmentalization for secular (dunyaawi) matters and the spiritual(deen), WITHOUT ANY CONNECTION BETWEEN BOTH COMPARTMENTS. In western economic parlance EMERGING MARKETS. However the really important effect is seen in the West where the vacuum created by secular ideology has sucked in religion, particularly Islam into the fore.

    • @aurangzebhaque2973
      @aurangzebhaque2973 Місяць тому

      Sunan Abi Dawud 4297
      Narrated Thawban:
      The Prophet (ﷺ) said: The people will soon summon one another to attack you as people when eating invite others to share their dish. Someone asked: Will that be because of our small numbers at that time? He replied: No, you will be numerous at that time: but you will be scum and rubbish like that carried down by a torrent, and Allah will take fear of you from the breasts of your enemy and last enervation into your hearts. Someone asked: What is wahn (enervation). Messenger of Allah (ﷺ): He replied: Love of the world and dislike of death.

    • @aurangzebhaque2973
      @aurangzebhaque2973 Місяць тому

      The last line of this Prophetic hadith where the ailment is diagnosed, is important. The two ahadiths quoted here are basically what this video is about

  • @mbab5401
    @mbab5401 Місяць тому +1

    We should blame ourselves for these . Too much tolerance been given.

  • @user-xu1ue1cf1o
    @user-xu1ue1cf1o Місяць тому +1

    my brothers Allah bless both of you ❤❤🎉 in sha allah

  • @MR-dm1gx
    @MR-dm1gx Місяць тому +3

    For sure!!

  • @AhmedSahal-kw7np
    @AhmedSahal-kw7np Місяць тому

    Most secular county divert true Islamic knowledge to the people

  • @Therebelliousprince001
    @Therebelliousprince001 Місяць тому

    Yes

  • @arifecan86
    @arifecan86 Місяць тому +2

    Yes, they are.

  • @rahmahrashid4663
    @rahmahrashid4663 Місяць тому

    Well discussed. Most Muslim countries have ill consumed themselves on "west is best". Even if modernity has helped improve lives, most muslims countries fail to learn the disadvatages that certain "inventions" also brought about immense sufferings in human moral lives. Greed, physical wealth, power and positions, have again returned to be the order of the day. Whai is the meaning of modernity if the " jahiliyah" ( age of darkness is reintroduced?

  • @mooripo
    @mooripo Місяць тому +1

    ❤ 🇲🇦

  • @srisubiyanti2211
    @srisubiyanti2211 Місяць тому +2

    Yes.... Imagine in majority muslim there are growing islamphobia...
    When young children wanna learn more Quran, practising and then label come dont be fanatic, intolerant bla bla bla ....

  • @mh9281
    @mh9281 Місяць тому

    That's what i think

  • @X-Ray-5000
    @X-Ray-5000 Місяць тому +2

    What's wrong with shopping malls? 🤔

    • @Positive-Princess
      @Positive-Princess Місяць тому

      Shopping malls were designed to keep housewives distracted and busy. These day’s shopping malls promote promiscuity, greed, lust, gluttony, the worship of idols and self, brainwashing, social conditioning, and blast haram music so shoppers can be exposed to sin while splurging and spending their wealth in more haram ways making the rich richer … there’s a LOT wrong with shopping malls

    • @Mohamedewfuhusd
      @Mohamedewfuhusd Місяць тому +3

      Kafir music about dubious lyrics playing 24/7 is one.

    • @surendirenparthasarathy9087
      @surendirenparthasarathy9087 Місяць тому

      ​@@Mohamedewfuhusdaren't there any Arab musicians who make music and played in malls.

  • @AhmedSahal-kw7np
    @AhmedSahal-kw7np Місяць тому

    People have their religion laws but voting democratics law's

  • @rainsnow5707
    @rainsnow5707 Місяць тому +2

    Yes absolutely true

  • @Raks78
    @Raks78 Місяць тому +3

    He is right , although I’m saddened to hear that the Middle East / Muslim countries are turning to the west , overall there is an awakening and Muslims already in the west are thinking of migrating or are in the process of migrating .Subhan Allah

  • @aq7705
    @aq7705 Місяць тому

    Why does Paul always look like he's about to fall asleep?
    Paul - do a live show for your ALL your fans. See what sort of QnA you get from your audience.
    Must say, these middle class White Western Reverts are good to listen to...they've seen both sides and made a wise choice, I think. Could be helpful for White middle class racists in the UK.

  • @secondstone
    @secondstone Місяць тому

    There is a proliferation of pseudo-science, energy-healing, sbnr-type ideologies are about in the region.

  • @KiritoAkira
    @KiritoAkira Місяць тому +1

    I believe in free market and development of economy , industry and entertainment even with music concerts but not to the expensive of spirituality

    • @ahmaduahmed8760
      @ahmaduahmed8760 Місяць тому +2

      This sound materialistic, money is not everything, moral values are all that matters.

    • @pasikhdar6617
      @pasikhdar6617 Місяць тому +2

      "Not to the expense of spirituality"
      how can you manage that pragmatically? How do you know that spiritual decline is not the *organic consequence* to the celebration of lavishness & opulence?
      The secular-capitalist enterpreneurs never overtly oppose spiritualism. Yet it is abundantly clear that their liberal advertising have successfully made consumerism supersede spirituality en masse.
      Lavishness does not have to be the hallmark to prosperity. Perhaps those who cannot dissociate the two are that way precisely due to being deeply deceived by the propaganda.
      EDIT: Our scriptures indeed call for people away from lavishness. This is the only prerequisite reason we need to proactively refrain from it with conviction. We know in our limited minds that we cannot foresee any _rational_ consequence therein, so we think that it is therefore frankly irrational to traverse blindly with the liberal mantra of "what's the harm?"

  • @bes5679
    @bes5679 Місяць тому

    If you watch arab series and channels today... Yes, they are.

  • @_Mo-Ham_
    @_Mo-Ham_ Місяць тому

    I guess you can call "education" and "facts" as secular agendas.

  • @sl9wdive
    @sl9wdive Місяць тому

    I don't see the problem with it. Muslims have the choice to engage in these haram lifestyles or not after all. It's not like the government are going to force you to go clubbing or drink alcohol. Even in a secular country, as long as Muslims don't participate in these activities, there's no problem. As a Muslim myself, I think the issue is that some Muslims make religion their entire personality. That's why a lot of Muslim countries are behind in the modern age, everyone is so obsessed with death that they forget about the living world.

  • @richardbradley1532
    @richardbradley1532 Місяць тому

    No, next.

  • @Faisalbinomar-qx9yx
    @Faisalbinomar-qx9yx Місяць тому

    Innal lazīna kafāru.
    Giving by possible way perform with documenting data booking currenting[electrifying] possible numerous instruction picture activity with view by utilize.
    Thanks all

  • @Moonlight-777
    @Moonlight-777 Місяць тому

    Каждый раз когда я вижу reverted muslims, на моем лицо появляется улыбка, я счастлива😊🩵💙

  • @rajer6370
    @rajer6370 Місяць тому

    What do you mean by Muslim countries? Are you pro-separatism?

  • @budidarmawan3956
    @budidarmawan3956 Місяць тому

    Menurut saya, Indonesia pernah benar-benar berada pada suasana yang sangat sekular di tahun 70-an. Tapi di akhir masa pemerintahan pak Suharto mulai ada benih yang tumbuh didalam masa pemerintahan beliau hingga beliau berhenti menjadi presiden (tahun 90an). Benih itu tumbuh bagus dan rimbun sekarang.

  • @janrudnik6870
    @janrudnik6870 Місяць тому +1

    Allah created Adam from clay and water and Adam was 60 cubits high and lived for hundreds of years and had hundreds of children , mainly twins.

    • @samantarmaxammadsaciid5156
      @samantarmaxammadsaciid5156 Місяць тому

      Where did you get this fake information?

    • @janrudnik6870
      @janrudnik6870 Місяць тому

      @@samantarmaxammadsaciid5156 Ibn jarir at-Tabari reported that Hawwa bore Adam one hundred and twenty sets of twins. The first of them was Qabil and his twin sister Amat al-Mughith.
      According to the hadiths of Bukhari and Muslim God created Adam 60 cubits tall.

    • @samantarmaxammadsaciid5156
      @samantarmaxammadsaciid5156 Місяць тому

      @janrudnik6870
      And did they (Bukhaari and Muslim) say that it's out of their own imagination or it's a collection of other people's imagination, or it's a chain of passed down through the generations that goes back to Nabii’u-LLaahi Muḥammad ﷺ?

    • @janrudnik6870
      @janrudnik6870 Місяць тому +1

      @@samantarmaxammadsaciid5156 next you'll be denying that the prophet Muhammad was carried across to Jerusalem and then up to heaven and back on Buraq , a winged creature on his famous night fight. Or that the prophet Muhammad split the moon in two when people doubted his prophecies !

    • @samantarmaxammadsaciid5156
      @samantarmaxammadsaciid5156 Місяць тому

      @janrudnik6870
      You yourself answered your question in which not only you but most Muslims, if not all, are confused between the actual complexity of Allaah’s words, the Qur’aan and Humanity’s comments and narratives, and because they treat these human commentary and what supposed to have happened as factual narratives as if these were unchallengeable facts, when in fact these are born out in the messy conflictive humans at the time of writing these, who had no direct connections to Rasuulu-LLaahi and Nabii’u-LLaahi Muḥammad when examined as parallel to the words came out of the Lisaan = Tongue of Rasuulu-LLaahi and Nabii’u-LLaahi Muḥammad ﷺ which are the Qur’aan!
      The past tense verb Inšaqqa of the triliteral root-pattern Š-Q-Q, Inšaqqa = to be split, be cleft; to split, crack, burst; be split off, separate, segregate, secede, break away, withdraw (with the preposition عَنْ ᶜan).
      So, when reading Qur’aan 54:1 {Iqtarabat As-Saaᶜatu wa inšaqqa al-Qamaru} = {The Hour has come near and the Moon has cracked}. The most important part is the subject feminine noun As-Saaᶜatu of the verb Iqtarabat. As-Saaᶜatu = the Hour refers to the Doomsday or the end of World or the Universe, meaning naturally everything in the universe - at a time to come - is falling apart, the Moon cracking or breaking into pieces is part of it. It is clear that those who interpreted the Moon split something that has already taken place which cannot be true, ignored and could’ve compared to the use of the verb Inšaqqa at the Doomsday in other Aayaat for example, Qur’aan 84:1 {Wa iḏaa As-Samaa’u Inšaqqat} = {And then the Sky / the Heaven was split apart} and Qur’aan 69:16 {Wa inšaqqat As-Samaa’u, fa-hiya yawma’iḏin waahiyatun} = {And the Sky / the Heaven has burst, for that day is friable} and the Qurʼaan 55:37 {Fa-iḏaa inšaqqat As-Samaa’u, fa kaanat wardatan ka-dDihaani} = {Then when the Sky / the Heaven was split asunder, thus became rose-tinted like oil}.
      All together, they are four Aayaat including the Aayat supposedly of the moon split Qur’aan 54:1, all these four Aayaat make impossible to be interpreted by those who did as they did = their explanatory manner or reading manner was the UNREAL one, simply wrong while their comprehension of the ᶜArabic was not at fault but in what gibberish argumentative mentality they were immersed was at fault as it happens to the humanity at all times in all places in this very Ad-Dunyaa (= the Lower / the Nearer “Life”) or simply Ad-Dunyaa = this world or this universe!

  • @robertpundsack1363
    @robertpundsack1363 Місяць тому +2

    No. , just deliberate bull propaganda. So if a Muslim and you need play victim. This guy will land you, hook line sinker. With such garbage. My opinion after hearing such distortions. So you continue to buy into his needs. Hope your not sending contributions .

    • @munaseid2765
      @munaseid2765 Місяць тому +1

      Slightly some corrections needed to your comment you mean Zionist didn't you. Zionist and October 7 or Holocaust. quiet the victim aren't they?

    • @robertpundsack1363
      @robertpundsack1363 Місяць тому +1

      @@munaseid2765 no, This guy wants Muslims to believe their in harms way by the West. I've heard of his guy before. I have no need

  • @Stiffytheenlightened
    @Stiffytheenlightened Місяць тому +1

    1. Christ said to love your enemies, and even if they smite you on one cheek, to turn your other cheek. Muhammad said to kill your enemies.
    2. Jesus teaches that God loves us all. Muhammad teaches God only loves him, his religion, and it’s followers.
    3. Simply put, Jesus teaches to follow all of God’s Ten Commandments. Muhammad teaches contradictions to God, that it’s ok to ignore God by breaking certain ones.
    4. Jesus manifested all kinds of heavenly miracles, whereas Muhammad never even once manifested ANY miracles.
    5. Jesus lived a pure and holy life, and taught us that we should also live a pure and holy life, while the Muhammad lived his life exactly the opposite, a not so holy life.

    • @munaseid2765
      @munaseid2765 Місяць тому +2

      Read brother Read and you shall know. Jesus is in our side .he submitted his will to God(Muslim). We love him and we love all the prophet of God(peace be upon them all) Read About Mohammed(pbuh) he's the last prophet. Preach the same message as jesus.

    • @Stiffytheenlightened
      @Stiffytheenlightened Місяць тому

      @@munaseid2765 Mohammed is not a prophet at all and Islam is not a true religion.
      Muhammad copied the idea for his religion from Christianity.
      The Romans copied Christianity from Judaism.
      Islam is just another form of Judaism with a name for 'god' invented by Muhammad.
      Muslims actually worship the 'god' of the Jews.
      Muslims should find this interesting on their day of judgement.

    • @muhammadgalleh
      @muhammadgalleh Місяць тому +6

      @@Stiffytheenlightened Stop putting your ignorance on public display!

    • @Stiffytheenlightened
      @Stiffytheenlightened Місяць тому

      @@munaseid2765 Muhammad is not a prophet.
      Muhammad copied the idea for his religion from Christianity.
      The Romans copied Christianity from Judaism.
      Islam is just another form of Judaism with a name for 'god' invented by Muhammad.
      Muslims actually worship the 'god' of the Jews.
      Muslims should find this interesting on their day of judgement.

    • @Stiffytheenlightened
      @Stiffytheenlightened Місяць тому

      @@muhammadgalleh Hey, I'm not the one that thinks a 'god' exists.

  • @connycharleslindstrom6084
    @connycharleslindstrom6084 Місяць тому +1

    The muslim crybaby conspiracy 🤯

    • @TheDragonKnight98
      @TheDragonKnight98 Місяць тому

      Says the man who lives in the most hypocritical and deg3nerate country in the world.

    • @mz4987
      @mz4987 Місяць тому

      The jealous weak yankee with no education or future chimes in with his feather weight intellect.

  • @user-cg5lm6ii8q
    @user-cg5lm6ii8q Місяць тому

    JESUS IS ON THE CROSS AND DESTROY THE CORAN

    • @JopJio
      @JopJio Місяць тому +2

      God is on the cross and cur..sed because he hung on a tree😂😂

    • @johnbrzykcy3076
      @johnbrzykcy3076 Місяць тому +1

      ​@@JopJio From my understanding, although Jesus' crucifixion was perceived as foolishness 2,000 years ago, His death was actually a means to destroy our own curse. Our curse of sin and the curse of death.
      So I'm thankful that God's love destroyed our curse.
      No disrespect intended. I'm just a simple Christian believer.
      Peace...

    • @user-cg5lm6ii8q
      @user-cg5lm6ii8q Місяць тому

      @@JopJio +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

  • @Moonlight-777
    @Moonlight-777 Місяць тому

    Люди, которые хотят жить на Западе должны знать, что имидж и настоящая жизнь - это 2 разные вещи. И немаловажная часть - мы должны думать об ахира больше чем о дунье. Ты можешь получать знания, работать и зарабатывать в своей стране. Необязательно ехать на запад. Может ты избежишь этого, но круг общения, социум обязательно будет влиять на будущее поколение, твоих детей, и это опасно.