This Is My New Favorite Zerg Cheese Of ALL TIME (No, Seriously)
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Corrupter, Oracle, AND Swarm Host???
You, sir, spoil me rotten.
Bless you 💙
Marc: My cheese usually get nerfed with every new patch.
Logic: Well since you do every single possible cheese....
Well his most famous cheeses are with Terran and they have pretty much exclusively nerfed Terran for the past few years.
Marine, Marauder, Reaper, Medivac, Thor, Siege Tank, BC - no change for a while
Hellbat - blue flame nerfed
Ghost - multiple nerfs
Mine - multiple nerfs
Raven - multiple nerfs
Planetary - armor nerf
Cyclone - depends on playstyle, I prefer the long range clone personally
Liberator - 25 gas cheaper
Viking - damage point reduction
Its been pretty disappointing being a Terran player. Patches mostly bring bad news.
@@kaiser2261 TLDR; you put in a lot of effort for a comment meant as a joke.
lol, 5 of those aren’t nerfs. Two are reworks that were later undone, aka no change, one was a pure visually update, one was a rework to a unit that is never used, and the 1 armor nerf is meaningless in 99% of games. I realize Terran players have a reputation for being whiny but this is ridiculous.
Glad I caught this when it went up! I love starting my day with these. Also, digging the setup!
I also like cheese for breakfast
Possible improvement for next oracle cheese: proxy nexus for energy recharge. You usually end up building the proxy stargate by an expansion anyway, may as well take it. Worst case, you're stealing his money for late game.
28:10 This is exactly why we love you
That last opponent was an extremely sussy baka.
Ok
That Ethan game was super sus. He was wherever you were instantly.
I thought so too but he did have multiple Obs in surveillance mode. That makes it way less sus.
Yeah, at 32:48 you can see the observer at the top left location
He has two observers that spotted all the nudyses
@@insanity1635 That makes this even worse, even if you see them coming, there is nothing you can do about it.
The way he let the overlord into his main base and allowed several units to live when they were right next to his units or buildings makes me think it was legit
What I learned from this video: Thermy says good Nydus when he goes to sleep and is hotkeying his Ex sometimes.
Thermy posts, I click.
Convince your mate to go double proxy hatch and copy your build so you have the ultimate quadrible 4 proxy hatch!
last guy wasnt sus, he was just using observers
Ok
Its impressive how quickly you replaced your PC and still made a new video today ❤
Meanwhile, I'll be obsessing over my own PC upgrade for weeks, long past the time all the sales are expired.
Meanwhile, I got my 4TB SSD but can't be assed to install it right now
im waiting for the day to see a full terran proxy base just salvage and fly away to transition into a lategame. something about bunkers and sensor tower disappearing and seeing a fleet of barracks fly away sounds like entertainment
11:45 Congarruptors
8:42 congalings
Entertaining as usual, keep up the amazing cheese!
24:42 Mate, I got to GM and as high as 4905 mmr on EU doing ONLY DRONE RUSHES (sending my first 9 to 11 drones to attack at the beginning of the game). I beated a lot of high ranking GM and even some old pro players like that. I'd be happy to show you the replays if you ever want to do a drone rush to grandmaster series. It might give you some insights on what works best regarding that particular strategy.
I doubt Thermal would have anything to learn from this... Considering he is a former Pro and has been playing for years and you are a random YT commenter.
you need to upload those bro
@@Jabullz Even if he is better than me, he might not have trained to drone rush for months, tried many different amount of drones to pull in each match up. I learned what works best after many trials and errors. I do believe I could share with him some insights that would save him some time trying things that don't work.
@@H4NGM4NDVD
Would you be interested in me uploading the games on youtube ? Or put the replays somewhere ?
I was debating with myself about uploading the games on youtube, but without any form of commentary I'm afraid no one would be interested, and i'm not a caster myself. What do you think ?
So far you can see two games from UpATree's perspective (faced him while he was streaming) :
ua-cam.com/users/livevduWitNLxpc?si=NiHHwdoSWkJPMHXT&t=888
ua-cam.com/users/livevduWitNLxpc?si=QUtuuMpyaa4mSCGj&t=18569
And I appeared during the introduction episode of the last Rank Roulette series.
@@jimdelsol1941 upload them, then you have them. its was g of him to worker rush you back for the first game ahahaha.
Was literally thinking "what's up with my sound" seconds before you explained the computer swap - brains are amazing sometimes :D
When making oracles from your main make sure next time to use energy recharge on them before rallying just to not have the ability idling
He's using the energy of the Nexus for Chrono boost, at least he was using it early on.
@@JaharNarishma oh, thank you.
Always a great day to see the Russian version of Thermy.... ...when he decides to Popov....
In soviet russia, cheese get you!
31:33 that maphack lol, knows immediately where the next nydus
At 32:18 you can see that he had an observer in observation mode directly next to where the nydus popped up, and there was another just below his base.
@@nojzero Oh you are right, my bad. Thanks for pointing out.
It would be nice to see 2v2 going for proxy bunker rush with marines and widow mines while micro behind it.
Mass oracle so clean that Has is taking notes.
Awesome episode! I love the corruptor spray cheese 😂
How about an X to grandmaster challenge where only corruptors can attack enemy buildings?
that last swarm host destruction was absolutely disgusting. i'll have some more please
Thank you! Great entertainment as always.
Amazing series of games! Great play and commentary
now i wanna see your version of ALL IN Bunker rushes!
It's so fun listening to you
Was listening to ASMR Harstem then auto play lead me here. I didn't realize till I looked at my phone.
Hello Uthermal ! I am a big fan and I'm starting playing SC2 . I just wanted to know, what do you call "rapid fire" and how does it works ?
Thank you, love your content❤
I think the third guy had map hacks. He knew exactly where the Nydus worms would come as well as the zergling waves.
How does proxy nexus oracle sound for a strat?
what happened to you pc for it to get so bad? did something wrong happen to the power supply unit and everything burned?
That cheese is going to be a nightmare to play against
You should have proxied your third nexus by your stargate for the oracle energy in game 2. Proxy nexus cheese just got more interesting! And you should have mined from it like a madlad.
Hey Thermy, why no hatch rally? Besides the worker one
Doesn't matter how He says "my best" - still "like a baboon" comes to mind. Am i such an old subscriber?
I see corruptors in the thumbnail i click
Funny thing about swarm hosts is, actually killing the swarm hosts doesn't help at all 😂 They cost 100/75 cheaper than one ravager or one mutalisk
Nice contents! keep it! I like it! I stuck 3200 mmr w/ Zerg
2:50 😂
more corruptor cheez pls make it series ,,corruptor + somthing to grandmaster" i need to see more building go puff from green pee 😀
5:00
marc innovating more than all the zerg players have for a decade
Gotta love a Thermy vid in the morning
13:26 didn't Sjaak play in DreamHack as a 14 year old and got very far in the single eliminate bracket, then he got on the main stream and faced TaeJa. A double Oracle proxy did not work vs TaeJa in the first game and not in any game for that matter. TaeJa just defended and counter. Easy map wins.
Will you manually flip coins if you exhaust a race?
Why do people Hallucinate Phoenix instead of Oracles? They move at the same speed, they see just the same, but Oracles seem far more threatening and much easier to make the enemy believe they are real, thus misdirecting them with it.
Protoss, close your eyes!
What is your new computer setup?
I'd nerf the caustic spray by making it costing HP and I'd let broodlords mutate from Mutalisk too.
Double extractor trick on the first game?
With the queens being 'nerfed' would it technically be cheaper to make macrohatches instead of inject queens? It also frees up time to do other things, since you won't have to perform in the inject actions. (it's little, but stacks up over time)
It's of high importance that you have units that can shoot air. You must pick either queen, hydra, muta(not good unless massed), or corruptor. If you dont pick one vs terran or protoss you lose the game. Queen is available without any tech. Do you see the game design issue here? If roaches were able to shoot air zerg wouldnt need to mass queen.
@@BunnyHoppin- Yea, I knew. But the thing is, Stargate/airport (wtf I forgot terran name for it lmao, I mostly play protoss... hmm factory and starport?) is 2nd tier. Can zerg not just rush T2 hydra since hydra's will be strong units anyways.
Plus with scouting (mandatory anyways) you check if you have to build spores and stuff. So idk how close the timing would be.
I mean pro play is basically a different game than what we play.
What kind of PC did you get?
Bio terran but with reapers and ghosts insted of marines and marauders 😊
Interesting dilemma.... Proxy the oracles, or build them at home and get the energy recharge?
I can only imagine how frustrating it was for your first opponent lol
🎉 it's u-thermal! days lookin up by the second 😂
EMBRACE THA INNER BABOOOooooooN!
Do overseers still have the contamination ability to freeze buildings?
If so, they need to be on the cheese board
He actually already did this. The second game of the video "I Just Invented a Brood Lord Cheese... It's Surprisingly Strong" is overseer contamination cheese.
@@thomaspeck4537 thank you!
the last attack was epic
You mentioned offline tournaments and it got me wondering if anybody in the comments is doing offline tournaments anywhere? If so, what's it like in 2024!?
I put down another nydus right here (2 sec later) I put down another nydus right here (2 sec later) another nydus....
Now you have to sell your 2v2 partner on how strong corrupter cheese is.
Corruptor cheese looks amazing vs toss. Unless they have mass voids or a high Templar with energy guarding each Nexus, it's gonna be really hard to defend. ..watch Uthermal get caustic spray nerfed next patch 😂
It looks amazing until you get pressured by fast blink stalkers.
I feel like no matter what your strategy is, your skills are always 5x higher so it doesn't really matter 😅 like a lion fighting a house cat
I love swarmhost! Please do a swarmhost to gm
itk the last guy was map hax
Why build and cancel gas?
unless I'm missing something wouldn't it make more sense to pick the obvious losers first? SCV and overlord do not have potential win conditions (SCV has only 'scv rush' and PF so it has an ultra slim chance vs low ranks who are generally extremely passive early game)
Thermal is it a cheese to play normal because your normal is always cheesing, so when you play normal, is it cheesing your opponent then?
damn what happened to ur computer?
Does anyone even read the titles of these videos anymore? lol. I'm not mad or hating on uThermal, but they all start to blend together after a while.
I read them.
waiting for another 10bronze episode!
No bind queen?
So the last guy was using map hack right ?
How die your PC die? Whats has happened ?
damn i have to try this right now!!!!
I’m waiting for the drone cheese to grandmaster
With queens being more expensive, does that make macro-hatches better or worse?
It dosnt change a thing. You must build units that shoot air before air shows up or you just lose. All this update accomplished is slow the zerg economy by a handful of minerals. There's no alternative to building queens for defending early terran units.
Even with huge luck last opponent got destroyed
Wait wait wait wait haahahahah you kill a drone to get over supply cap lmaoooo why i ddidnt think of that
Your settings seem different, and also I’m crazy.
Im curious, why always build the gas then instantly delete it?
It's called an Extractor trick ; with Zerg you can get an extra supply early on this way, works better for some builds :)
#10:00 You flee from the airtos with the corruptors but there is no way 4 void rays and 2 phoenix can win that fight.
get out of the nydus, launch locust, get back in. dont walk around
macro hatch is very underrated. if you look at high level zerg games they almost never have enough larvae. then they lose an expansion and production drops like a rock. tech transitions are also better if you have enough larvae. money should be the limiting factor not larvae. queen energy is needed for creep and transfuse but the most important issue is that injects consume apm, how do you do it while fighting? just not make units??? lings produce fast and run fast they should reinforce but if you cant inject it wont happen. you need only 6 drones to sustain ling production on one hatch. think 10 hatch 60 drones. I only see dark make macro hatches which should say enough.
More 2v2 videos please. Maybe 2 per day.
I love thermy!!! ❤❤❤
Why does he have to turn on unit health bars and flyer helper at the beginning of every single video? Does he have it off when he is playing normally? And if so, why? And if not, why doesn't he just have his settings with them on already?
So that he can make clear and better screenshots for his UA-cam Thumbnails.
Playing a few games and having it on -> starts replays and disable it for screenshots -> its off when he plays next time :D
He said in a previous video that he turns the bars off to make a good looking thumbnail for the video, then often forgets to turn them back on until he plays again.
@@eyraptor9198 Ahhhh - thank you - was driving me crazy!
Thermy, in regards with the Cyclone damage, the total damage is relevant to only Carriers, BCs, Motherships, Ultralisks and buildings.
I think that you do not emphasize that the problem is the DPS that is also higher by 25% (to be honest you did touch on it this video).
Hey Thermy, i got a Challenge idea for you!
Starting with a fresh Rank, how far on the Ladder could you go WITHOUT using your keyboard :D
Of the really good Players, i guess only you might be actually crazy enough to give it a try^^
love your content btw.
you inspired me to pick up Starcraft again
This is one of the reasons bc openers then bio dont work . hate Those corruptors sniping cc!
Corrupter to GM?!
Is it just for me or your color palette is messed up ? The reds looks more like pink than red.
I will lose it if you singlehandedly get corrupters nerfed xD
They'll have to bring back some kind of shield overcharge lol, as a longtime Corruptor lover, this my new favorite build!
With that many you can split them and spray down multiple buildings simultaneously, pylons, cannons, etc.
Because nerfing zerg's only option to contest air would make sense.
It's still unbelievable that Blizzard is still so lazy about not fixing their bugs. No wonder noone has any trust for Blizzard anymore.
After what they did to wow i swore to never install the blizzard launcher again
Still playing SC2 custom maps with the free client. But my main account is since long gone and blizzard will never have another cent of mine. A choice I made almost a decade ago now. I don't understand how people keep paying morally corrupt corporations.
oh yeah the game balance is why nobody trusts them lol
Hey at least they got their diversity hirees (or DEI) to mess up game balance with their incompetence recently, and call it "community council" or whatever. The actual White creators of sc2 are long gone or are put on different projects.
@@ginz9rwhat did they do
Yeah 3rd game . 100% map hacking. Bad player with map hack.
Ok.
Your zerg plays are meh. Terran is the master race, followed by Protoss..
Not everything is a cheese. Building one barracks off to the left side of the map, then playing the game by adapting to what's going on is not a cheese.
Come on, Uthemy, we both know a cheese is in the early-game, you are doing an all-in.
You're a legendary player, so I expect you to call things by their proper names so people can learn the correct terms.
Not this clickbait stuff, you dont need that.
i see zerg, i dislike and click away
Ok.