Many Thanks to Amsterdam Baroque for this and to the great soloists and Ton Koopmann. It is a masterful work, performed with such authority, style and sheer verve, it stops the breath!
A great, great role-model; whilst being marvelous music in its own right, this is also a precursor of some of the most sublime music ever written. A teachers´teacher, a pioneer and paragon of good taste. Hallelujah, and thank you for the post.
Such energy--celebrating the first day without masks in more than a year. May your Baroque joy touch our Indian brothers and sisters who suffer without respite. Thank you for helping me think of them.
La música es el arte por excelencia en ella se conjuga lo divino y lo humano como un pacto entre Dios y los hombres . En ésta pieza de Kuhnau hay un sentimiento que evoca lo místico y nos abraza en un canto cálido , suave , dulce y cargada de esa belleza--fuerza que solo los grandes genios logran alcanzar .
It's a very simple, beautiful work, and amazingly well-performed. Please don't judge it by the standards of Bach, admire the work for its basic musical worth and charm.
I wouldn't entirely agree that this is simple music. It's call too easy to fall into the 19thc trap of putting certain composers on a huge pedestal and belittling everyone else. The reality is that the difference between JS and those around and before him is not that great
La música de éste autor desconocido para mi es dulce y con una suavidad que toca la armonía . Nos lleva a otro mundo y a un sentir que explora la parte más honda del universo ... En esta composición el júbilo a lo celestial se expresa y el alma con Dios se encuentra .
Here’s a Kuhnau Christmas cantata I performed 50 years ago with my madrigal group - in German: Short pieces: Es Ist Ein Kind Geborn. If you have a passionate group of teen agers -try it. An exchange student from a German speaking country is a godsend ! The kids will love the coaching, and….well…need more? For off season do: Mer Hahn ein Oberkeet: The J.S. Bach Peasant cantata- and have your kids make up a contemporary story to fill in between choruses and solos: A fine old model performance is by Phyllis Curtin and Paul Mathen. At 92 I no longer rank or rate anyone-especially from a culture that has so well protected its heritage. I am forever grateful to free myself from network commercialism. I think of J.S.Bach’s pay coming in part from firewood; and his precious cantatas being used ( after his death) to stick poison glue on trees - while his sons transitional role slipped in where our highest form of devotion should be. This was a finest hour ! Bless every soul who contributed - in whatever way. Robert E Wood.
Wonderful stuff. Counterpointing this (the Devil made me say it) to the famous Magnificats (Bach, Vivalidi at least) shows how much this was a genre with expectations, not just an abstract Musical Form like the Romantics relied on, and all the better for it.
He was Bach''s predecessor as Thomaskantor so that says a lot about his stature as a composer. However, whilst I am not an expert, I do think Bach's Magnificat is superior to Kuhnau's in every single way.
+Peter Page That's a silly old crack about Vivaldi "writing the same thing 1000 times". Just yesterday I was listening to Vivaldi's Gloria and the Domine Deus soprano aria came on and I said, "Who would ever guess this was by Vivaldi?" (I'm not saying I esp like the aria... it's too "galant" for my tastes) The crack has a tiny germ of truth in it -- some of his pieces sound similar, and he is often recognizable, but it is false that he just repeated himself.
I think most would agree Bach's Magnificat is vastly superior, particularly in terms of its musical complexity and depth. But I do think there is something extremely beautiful and to the heart about Kuhnau's relative simplicity, it has a sense of being more overtly relatable.
@@jsbrules That originated from a comment from Stravinsky about how he thought that Vivaldi wrote the same concerto 600 times (the catalog of his works numbers in the 700s, not 1000).
È un artista mio favorito “ moderno nella interpretazione della grande musica tedesca barocca”. Poco a che vedere con il grandissimo Richter” la cui severità orchestrale luterana” crea atmosfera musicale molto diversa. Ma sono ambedue molto godibili. Artisti eccelsi.
Johann Kuhnau Musicien allemand, Né à Geising le6 avril 1660 Décédé à Leipzig le 5 juin 1722. Biographie Il étudie la musique à Dresde, alors centre musical important, et devient membre du chœur de la Kreuzschule en 1671. Il retourne à Geising en 1680 pour fuir une épidémie puis fréquente le collège Johanneum à Zittau à l'invitation de son cantor. La mort de ce dernier ainsi que de l'organiste lui permet d'occuper ces deux postes. Il fait des études de droit à l'université de Leipzig à partir de 1682. Il devient organiste de l'église Saint-Thomas en 1684 et embrasse la carrière d'avocat après l'obtention de ses diplômes de droit en 1688. Il devient aussi Thomaskantor de saint Thomas en 1701. Les années suivantes sont assombries par la baisse de niveau des élèves, la concurrence de l'Opéra de Leipzig et l'ambition de plusieurs autres musiciens, au premier rang desquels Georg Philipp Telemann. Après sa mort, son poste est attribué à Jean-Sébastien Bach. Œuvres Son œuvre musicale est un peu oubliée, pourtant ce musicien eut une vraie influence sur la musique allemande de son temps. Elle comprend : Voir plus sur son œuvre se reporter au lien source ci-dessous : fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johann_Kuhnau
I noticies the unison of the choir after the woman Wang "deum de deo" and thought maybe Kuhnau was Lutheran, them surely enough the choir sang the music to "A mighty fortress"!
In fact, the soprano sings "Et exsultavit cor meum in Deo salutari meo" (My heart rejoiced in God my savior) before the Lutheran choral "Vom Himmel hoch, da komm ich her" (from the height of sky I'm coming), whose English text, the fortress and everything, I didn't know before (I had to check on UA-cam;) I do like the way this chorale is treated here.
Very interesting remark. Is it so difficult to accept that a Dutch orchestra performs so well in this fantastic location? Cannot find other performances of Kuhnau’s work like this on the internet.
@@michaeldiesveld9335 It's got nothing to do with that they're Dutch, perform in Leipzig, or that there are no other recordings of this piece available!
Ah, it's very beautiful, simple, and melodious. Bach it's not..and yet, still remarkable in its own way, and worth listening to. Perhaps mediocre is too harsh? May we not just say?, "modest and musically effective".
I think, with a username like that, you're going to be emotionally over-attached to your opinion, and that's going to be your loss. IMHO this is a rather charming, well-crafted piece, quite beautiful in its own way - my own opinion of course. Condemning a work as mediocre, simply because it's not by Bach, perhaps suggests a poor appreciation of the reasons for Bach's greatness.
Paul Berry Thanks for noticing my admittedly childish :-) user name, but I am not prejudiced against other baroque composers - over a third of my baroque UA-cam “favorites” are not by Bach. There is much glorious mid-late baroque music to be heard by (in my own opinion) especially: Zelenka, Handel, Purcell, Stoeltzel, Pergolesi, Rameau, Scarlatti. And even the occasional Vivaldi and dare I say Kuhnau, such as his lovely Christmas Cantata (formerly known as "Bach's" BWV 142) - but this piece ain’t so great. It is not unreasonable to call a spade a spade! And, my saying it is “mediocre” does not mean I am "condemning" it, just being real, pointing out that it is merely... “well crafted”, as you put it, or perhaps "modest" as another poster wrote! Even our beloved JS Bach wrote some mediocre music. Let's be real, people! -"Mr Brules"
@@jsbrules There is nothing mediocre about beautiful, well crafted sacred music - Buxtehude is a perfect example as I hope you would be aware, of Cantata's of immense beauty equal to Bach, even which the often smaller orchestration.
Erschütternd....welch eine Kraft in dieser Musik
Sicuramente Kuhnau è un grande e lo dimostra questo magnifico Magnificat.
Always fabulous with Ton Koopman. Every performance of his enlightens me as to particulars in the music.
Many Thanks to Amsterdam Baroque for this and to the great soloists and Ton Koopmann. It is a masterful work, performed with such authority, style and sheer verve, it stops the breath!
A superb performance in the very place where it all happened in Baroque Germany.
Wie immer Herr Koopman und seine Arbeit an der Musik, was er uns zeigt!
Große Musik und ausgezeichnete Leistung ! Ton Koopman ist ein brillianter Dirigent !!! Tepper Michael.
On se laisse emporter par la fougue des chanteurs. De très belles mélodies. L'interprétation des solistes et de l'orchestre est excellente.
A great, great role-model; whilst being marvelous music in its own right, this is also a precursor of some of the most sublime music ever written. A teachers´teacher, a pioneer and paragon of good taste.
Hallelujah, and thank you for the post.
Grand music and great performance ! Ton Koopmann is a great conducter !!! Tepper Michael.
Such energy--celebrating the first day without masks in more than a year. May your Baroque joy touch our Indian brothers and sisters who suffer without respite. Thank you for helping me think of them.
Oeuvre magnifique. Je me fais une joie de faire partie des choeurs cet été en France, enfin !....
Alleluia pour toi !
A MÚSICA É A MAIS LINDA EXPRESSÃO CULTURAL DE UM POVO OU MESMO DE UMA NAÇÃO
PARABÉNS 👏👏👏👏❤❤🇧🇷🇧🇷
Every time I listen to this wonderful music I feel renewed...
La música es el arte por excelencia en ella se conjuga lo divino y lo humano como un pacto entre Dios y los hombres .
En ésta pieza de Kuhnau hay un sentimiento que evoca lo místico y nos abraza en un canto cálido , suave , dulce y cargada de esa belleza--fuerza que solo los grandes genios logran alcanzar .
A wonderful performance from all - thank you.
Koopman has such a lovely and winning spirit about him. He is about the most joyful musician I have ever seen.
How wonderful to hear this music by Bach's great predecessor at Leipzig in the actual location where both worked. Great performance.
Beautiful dynamics ... perfection!
Beautiful performance. Put many flowers on Johann Sebastian's grave. They will never be too many. ❤🔥❤🔥❤🔥
Except this was Johann Kuhnau...
Danke schön! Heutzutage endecke ich Johann Kuhnau noch einmal 301 Jahre nach seinem Tod.
Kuhnau and Schelle deserve far more of an airing than they currently get.
Una scoperta per me meravigliosa !
It's a very simple, beautiful work, and amazingly well-performed. Please don't judge it by the standards of Bach, admire the work for its basic musical worth and charm.
You could not listen to the Quia recit mihi magna and not think it was Bach I think, it had me fooled even knowing I was listening to Kuhnau! - 8:47
I wouldn't entirely agree that this is simple music. It's call too easy to fall into the 19thc trap of putting certain composers on a huge pedestal and belittling everyone else. The reality is that the difference between JS and those around and before him is not that great
Simplemente maravilloso.
Increíblemente bello
La música de éste autor desconocido para mi es dulce y con una suavidad
que toca la armonía . Nos lleva a otro mundo y a un sentir que explora la parte más honda del universo ...
En esta composición el júbilo a lo celestial se expresa y el alma con Dios se encuentra .
Bellísimo!!!
Great work! Great performance! 8D
UM ESPLENDOR DE PERFORMANCE 👏👏🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷
So magnificent..
Good to see music performed in its proper place within a church building -- it just sounds better!
I tell u the Truth....this work by Kuhnau...Bach's predecessor..is well performed by the the wellcrafted Koopman....jn
9:04 - the B Minor Mass - a progenitor? Bach was not afraid to develop others' ideas.
¡¡¡¡¡Bravísimo!!!!!
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Here’s a Kuhnau Christmas cantata I performed 50 years ago with my madrigal group - in German: Short pieces: Es Ist Ein Kind Geborn. If you have a passionate group of teen agers -try it. An exchange student from a German speaking country is a godsend ! The kids will love the coaching, and….well…need more?
For off season do: Mer Hahn ein Oberkeet: The J.S. Bach Peasant cantata- and have your kids make up a contemporary story to fill in between choruses and solos: A fine old model performance is by Phyllis Curtin and Paul Mathen.
At 92 I no longer rank or rate anyone-especially from a culture that has so well protected its heritage. I am forever grateful to free myself from network commercialism. I think of J.S.Bach’s pay coming in part from firewood; and his precious cantatas being used ( after his death) to stick poison glue on trees - while his sons transitional role slipped in where our highest form of devotion should be.
This was a finest hour ! Bless every soul who contributed - in whatever way.
Robert E Wood.
reminds me of Purcell in parts, very good music and he seems underrated as a composer.
Wonderfull !
Awesome stuff........
Magnificent!
Perfecta ejecución en las trompetas!! Muy bien empastadas con la orquesta y coro. Bravo
How can someone not like this?
Sehr gut!
masterwork
That's one impressive church you got there....
Wonderful stuff. Counterpointing this (the Devil made me say it) to the famous Magnificats (Bach, Vivalidi at least) shows how much this was a genre with expectations, not just an abstract Musical Form like the Romantics relied on, and all the better for it.
He was Bach''s predecessor as Thomaskantor so that says a lot about his stature as a composer. However, whilst I am not an expert, I do think Bach's Magnificat is superior to Kuhnau's in every single way.
Vivaldi wrote the same song, 10,000 times!
+Peter Page That's a silly old crack about Vivaldi "writing the same thing 1000 times". Just yesterday I was listening to Vivaldi's Gloria and the Domine Deus soprano aria came on and I said, "Who would ever guess this was by Vivaldi?" (I'm not saying I esp like the aria... it's too "galant" for my tastes) The crack has a tiny germ of truth in it -- some of his pieces sound similar, and he is often recognizable, but it is false that he just repeated himself.
I think most would agree Bach's Magnificat is vastly superior, particularly in terms of its musical complexity and depth. But I do think there is something extremely beautiful and to the heart about Kuhnau's relative simplicity, it has a sense of being more overtly relatable.
@@jsbrules That originated from a comment from Stravinsky about how he thought that Vivaldi wrote the same concerto 600 times (the catalog of his works numbers in the 700s, not 1000).
È un artista mio favorito “ moderno nella interpretazione della grande musica tedesca barocca”. Poco a che vedere con il grandissimo Richter” la cui severità orchestrale luterana” crea atmosfera musicale molto diversa. Ma sono ambedue molto godibili. Artisti eccelsi.
Deborah York !!!
¡Qué joya!
Virga Jesse Floriut is impeccable.
Anima mea!!
Fuego!
Such beautiful music and the composer is almost unknown to a greater public!
Weird, is it not?
A mi me emociona el principio, sobre todo.
Tienes razón ...es sumamente bello y con una suavidad que toca la armonía y besa lo sublime .
🎄💖
Johann Kuhnau
Musicien allemand,
Né à Geising le6 avril 1660
Décédé à Leipzig le 5 juin 1722.
Biographie
Il étudie la musique à Dresde, alors centre musical important, et devient membre du chœur de la Kreuzschule en 1671. Il retourne à Geising en 1680 pour fuir une épidémie puis fréquente le collège Johanneum à Zittau à l'invitation de son cantor. La mort de ce dernier ainsi que de l'organiste lui permet d'occuper ces deux postes.
Il fait des études de droit à l'université de Leipzig à partir de 1682. Il devient organiste de l'église Saint-Thomas en 1684 et embrasse la carrière d'avocat après l'obtention de ses diplômes de droit en 1688. Il devient aussi Thomaskantor de saint Thomas en 1701. Les années suivantes sont assombries par la baisse de niveau des élèves, la concurrence de l'Opéra de Leipzig et l'ambition de plusieurs autres musiciens, au premier rang desquels Georg Philipp Telemann. Après sa mort, son poste est attribué à Jean-Sébastien Bach.
Œuvres
Son œuvre musicale est un peu oubliée, pourtant ce musicien eut une vraie influence sur la musique allemande de son temps. Elle comprend :
Voir plus sur son œuvre se reporter au lien source ci-dessous :
fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johann_Kuhnau
Magnus rendition
I noticies the unison of the choir after the woman Wang "deum de deo" and thought maybe Kuhnau was Lutheran, them surely enough the choir sang the music to "A mighty fortress"!
I went too fast on my phone and it changed "noticed","sang" and_____. I hate my phone and my lack of carefulness.
The _____ was for "then", not "them".
In fact, the soprano sings "Et exsultavit cor meum in Deo salutari meo" (My heart rejoiced in God my savior) before the Lutheran choral "Vom Himmel hoch, da komm ich her" (from the height of sky I'm coming), whose English text, the fortress and everything, I didn't know before (I had to check on UA-cam;) I do like the way this chorale is treated here.
Bellísimo! Pero no sé a qué vienen las comparaciones con Bach. El genio es el genio, y punto!
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someone needs to give Koopman some Xanax. He looks like a wild nut when conducting.
Schitterend
Une musique toute simple.
1:18
I detect a strong Bach influence?
...que agradable escuchar a Bogna Bartosz y no a un hombre cantando con falsete
Dirigieren kann er nicht. Spielen eigentlich auch nicht.
Very interesting remark. Is it so difficult to accept that a Dutch orchestra performs so well in this fantastic location? Cannot find other performances of Kuhnau’s work like this on the internet.
@@michaeldiesveld9335 It's got nothing to do with that they're Dutch, perform in Leipzig, or that there are no other recordings of this piece available!
Apparently exactly the same instrumentation as Bach's magnificat of some 40 years later.
Not my cup of tea.
Only about half way through this, but I am struck by how excellent and committed the performers are... and by how utterly mediocre the music is.
Ah, it's very beautiful, simple, and melodious. Bach it's not..and yet, still remarkable in its own way, and worth listening to. Perhaps mediocre is too harsh? May we not just say?, "modest and musically effective".
I think, with a username like that, you're going to be emotionally over-attached to your opinion, and that's going to be your loss. IMHO this is a rather charming, well-crafted piece, quite beautiful in its own way - my own opinion of course. Condemning a work as mediocre, simply because it's not by Bach, perhaps suggests a poor appreciation of the reasons for Bach's greatness.
Paul Berry Thanks for noticing my admittedly childish :-) user name, but I am not prejudiced against other baroque composers - over a third of my baroque UA-cam “favorites” are not by Bach. There is much glorious mid-late baroque music to be heard by (in my own opinion) especially: Zelenka, Handel, Purcell, Stoeltzel, Pergolesi, Rameau, Scarlatti. And even the occasional Vivaldi and dare I say Kuhnau, such as his lovely Christmas Cantata (formerly known as "Bach's" BWV 142) - but this piece ain’t so great. It is not unreasonable to call a spade a spade! And, my saying it is “mediocre” does not mean I am "condemning" it, just being real, pointing out that it is merely... “well crafted”, as you put it, or perhaps "modest" as another poster wrote! Even our beloved JS Bach wrote some mediocre music. Let's be real, people! -"Mr Brules"
@@jsbrules There is nothing mediocre about beautiful, well crafted sacred music - Buxtehude is a perfect example as I hope you would be aware, of Cantata's of immense beauty equal to Bach, even which the often smaller orchestration.