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  • The famed Poincaré Conjecture - the only Millennium Problem cracked thus far.
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    Ricci Flow (used to solve the problem): • Ricci Flow - Numberphile
    Riemann Hypothesis: • Riemann Hypothesis - N...
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    Grigori Perelman's paper: bit.ly/perelmanpaper
    Discussed here by Katie Steckles and James Isenberg.
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  • @Misterlegoboy
    @Misterlegoboy 8 років тому +7537

    what a badass- he solves one of the 7 hardest problems in the world and then just drops the mic and leaves

    • @PhilosopherRex
      @PhilosopherRex 8 років тому +841

      There are amazing people walking this world and I suspect that most of them we've never heard of.

    • @nemooutis-marcusboateng7459
      @nemooutis-marcusboateng7459 7 років тому +440

      Misterlegoboy he's probably pulling a gauss on us and after he dies we'll find fantastic work is left

    • @Redheisenberg
      @Redheisenberg 7 років тому +101

      That's not being a badass. That's being edgy

    • @user-tm1ix7xi1n
      @user-tm1ix7xi1n 7 років тому +212

      He is a great mathematician

    • @CdFMasterVideo
      @CdFMasterVideo 7 років тому +609

      You forgot to say that he isolated himself for seven years, working on nothing but this legendary problem, until the day he unveiled his discovery...and after that he disappeared again.
      Yes that's epic. No dragonborn or heir of Isildur ever lived with more epicness.

  • @thefakeslimshady8881
    @thefakeslimshady8881 3 роки тому +2325

    Gregori solved this question alone in his room which contains only a desk, a bed, a lamp, and a chair. And then quit all of mathematics after this. What a guy

    • @pawankhanal8472
      @pawankhanal8472 3 роки тому +49

      Really he quit all mathematics ?

    • @thefakeslimshady8881
      @thefakeslimshady8881 3 роки тому +18

      @@pawankhanal8472 yep

    • @pawankhanal8472
      @pawankhanal8472 3 роки тому +113

      @@thefakeslimshady8881 But people says he is working on Navier stokes equations- other millinium prize problem.

    • @thefakeslimshady8881
      @thefakeslimshady8881 3 роки тому +24

      @@pawankhanal8472 I mean I'm just recounting what I've heard from other sources and they said he just quit

    • @pawankhanal8472
      @pawankhanal8472 3 роки тому +177

      @@thefakeslimshady8881 doesn't matter. He proved to be genius and that's enough. History will remember him.

  • @TheNuncFluens
    @TheNuncFluens 9 років тому +5668

    An interview with Perelman would be the ultimate Numberphile video.

    • @General12th
      @General12th 7 років тому +709

      No.
      An interview with *Euler* would be the ultimate Numberphile video.

    • @nemooutis-marcusboateng7459
      @nemooutis-marcusboateng7459 6 років тому +211

      Gauss.

    • @MIZORAM_mafaka_hnamte
      @MIZORAM_mafaka_hnamte 6 років тому +71

      NuncFluens *Totally agree, bro but he didn't want it*

    • @user-rs5hb6gd8e
      @user-rs5hb6gd8e 6 років тому +55

      prabably he is not 100% mental healthy.

    • @Adam270978
      @Adam270978 5 років тому +40

      Прикладна Економіка, у него есть некоторые признаки синдрома Аспергера, но он не псих. Просто у него проблемы с социализацией.

  • @luck3949
    @luck3949 7 років тому +3160

    Hardness of math problems:
    0. I can solve the problem
    1. I can understand the solution of the problem
    2. I can't understand the solution of the problem
    3. I can't understand the problem
    4. I can't understand why it is not obvious

    • @ericsmith116
      @ericsmith116 4 роки тому +66

      any its at all levels of math.

    • @rockskate15
      @rockskate15 4 роки тому +74

      Under rated comment.

    • @chabichabi3932
      @chabichabi3932 4 роки тому +17

      Where is obvious things in math?

    • @luck3949
      @luck3949 4 роки тому +233

      @@chabichabi3932 For me it seems "obvious", that Collatz Conjecture is true, because there is always a chance to hit a number that will bring the sequence down to the "known area" where sequence reaches 1. But greatest mathematicians of humanity can't solve it for decades, and say that the problem is so hard that it is completely out of range of modern mathematics. So obviously, the fact that answer is "obvious" for me, only reveals that I completely misunderstand math, related to the problem.

    • @equim7363
      @equim7363 4 роки тому +6

      @@luck3949 you so smart

  • @dmitriysoloviev4423
    @dmitriysoloviev4423 6 років тому +2649

    Perelman refused to take any prize, thereby create Perelman Conjecture. Now mathematician trying to understand why.

    • @nischay4719
      @nischay4719 6 років тому +6

      Dmitriy Soloviev 😂😂😂

    • @John-lf3xf
      @John-lf3xf 5 років тому +4

      Dmitriy Soloviev 😂

    • @hakinadedeji
      @hakinadedeji 5 років тому +48

      You will need to ask the psychologists for that conjecture. They need to know what was going on in his brain

    • @makecba
      @makecba 5 років тому +75

      I read somewhere that he thought he didn't deserve the prise any more than any other mathematician that made any contribution to the field before him

    • @makecba
      @makecba 5 років тому +28

      i.e.: the famous "standing on the shoulders of giants"

  • @francescorende9987
    @francescorende9987 7 років тому +1938

    do a video on every millenium prize problem

    • @nicholaschin8804
      @nicholaschin8804 4 роки тому +11

      Navier-Stokes was out this week! =D

    • @anthonyymm511
      @anthonyymm511 4 роки тому +8

      Hodge conjecture might be hard to explain.

    • @epicswirl
      @epicswirl 3 роки тому +6

      P=NP really intrigues me because I’m a computer scientist. I really wanna solve it!

    • @tazogochitashvili6514
      @tazogochitashvili6514 3 роки тому

      @@epicswirl So here's what I've been thinking, since NP-class problems need Polynomial time to check the answer to, doesn't that mean that the problem of P vs NP is a question beyond NP itself? We haven't been able to prove that one of the two solutions are correct, but what if we're just going the wrong way?

    • @epicswirl
      @epicswirl 3 роки тому +3

      Tazo Gochitashvili we can prove NP problems and even solve them in exponential time. The problem is we need an algorithm to do it in polynomial time like O(n^3). You may end up being correct that P=NP is unsolvable, but that needs to be proven and the $1 million will be awarded. If they can be solved in poly time then cancer could be cured theoretically. That is the solution we want. Perhaps we’re just looking at the problem from the wrong angle.

  • @JanPBtest
    @JanPBtest 7 років тому +2074

    This video never mentions one major hero of the story, the inventor of the Ricci flow himself: Richard Hamilton. This is almost like talking about relativity without ever mentioning Einstein. Perelman's achievement is undeniable, of course, but Hamilton did a lot of heavy lifting beginning with the early 1980s. In fact, one of the reasons Perelman rejected the Fields medal and other prizes was that the people who were in charge of awarding them refused (apparently) to make the prizes shared with Hamilton.

    • @cclifford1003
      @cclifford1003 7 років тому +39

      nice input 👍

    • @Netro1992
      @Netro1992 7 років тому +6

      You mean Poincare.

    • @SJ-to3dt
      @SJ-to3dt 7 років тому +130

      I'm not really trained as a mathematician, I'm an engineer. But I have developed immense fascination with the dynamics of the events that took place around the awarding of the prizes for the proof of the Poincare conjecture (No background in topology).. It is just fascinating to see that Hamilton wasn't selected to share the prize and I also read that the mathematical community didn't take any action against the Chinese who wanted to steal Grigori's work. All these things and dynamics just gives you a chill in the spine =O

    • @JanPBtest
      @JanPBtest 7 років тому +16

      *****
      (1) What you say is not relevant to what I said. (2) No, relativity was NOT discovered by Poincare. This is one of the standard claims by the anti-relativity crackpot crowd. Poincare came very close, true. This subject has been very well researched, I have no space here to dicuss it in more detail. Do your research. I'm not going to respond any further.

    • @zoetropo1
      @zoetropo1 7 років тому +57

      Perelman should simply have given half the prize to Hamilton. Who cares what the committee scrawls?

  • @manishamohanty244
    @manishamohanty244 2 роки тому +109

    " Some people can't be bought or bargained with, they just want to see the world learn. "

  • @TheUneuro
    @TheUneuro 10 років тому +926

    As a mathematician, I respect so much what you do Brady ! Thank you :)

    • @naeemkuzco2525
      @naeemkuzco2525 6 років тому +9

      TheUneuro 2+2=.?

    • @Kosekans
      @Kosekans 6 років тому +18

      3,999... repeating

    • @kkiller1438
      @kkiller1438 5 років тому +2

      @@naeemkuzco2525 4-1=3 quick maffs

    • @randomdude9135
      @randomdude9135 4 роки тому

      @@kkiller1438 yeah

    • @badam9656
      @badam9656 3 роки тому

      Mathematician with 17k subs and no vids

  • @daverobertson623
    @daverobertson623 2 роки тому +56

    So Perelman basically did the world's greatest ever hold my beer followed by an epic mic drop.
    Legend.

    • @boriskogan666
      @boriskogan666 8 місяців тому

      he was being ripped off by the mathematicians at harvard. he's refusal to accept the prizes were designed to shine a spotlight on the inequities of academic research.

    • @Reevobxz
      @Reevobxz Місяць тому

      @@boriskogan666how can I learn more about this

  • @dmitrymorozov1579
    @dmitrymorozov1579 9 років тому +1909

    ignoring the money he just wants to show that there is something wrong with our world. Some of his ex-partners in math betrayed him, he thought that that the world of math is the only place where people are moral and pure in their thoughts. But it turned our that even a mathematical society is full of bustards craving for money and the fame. We are a dirt world, and he is a just a saint Man. That's it. I proud of that such a person lives in my county.

    • @potenvandebizon
      @potenvandebizon 9 років тому +72

      Well said. I think logic shouldn't be commercialized, though a symbol, like the medal, for his deeds might be in place. Or he might think that logic is above honor in that sense. Anyway he made the right choice with the money.

    • @wajideu5005
      @wajideu5005 9 років тому +85

      I would try to solve the problem just for the fun of it. I wouldn't turn down the prize money though. Not because I'm greedy, but because I have things I want to do in my life and money is a factor I would enjoy not having to worry about.
      Not to mention, turning a reward down just to be self righteous is ignorant and disrespectful imo. It'd be like joining a marathon, winning, and then rejecting the trophy. It's practically spitting in people's faces. If you don't want the trophy, don't join the marathon so someone else can enjoy the reward for the time and effort they put in.

    • @kabascoolr
      @kabascoolr 9 років тому +158

      Waji Deu Your view of the world is a very bleak. It's more likely than not that if he had your mentality, he wouldn't be in the position to solve that problem.

    • @wajideu5005
      @wajideu5005 9 років тому +51

      kabascoolr Everyone needs money. It makes the world go round. I'd rather be bleak and content than foolish and regretful.

    • @kabascoolr
      @kabascoolr 9 років тому +101

      Waji Deu You're already foolish. Not everyone holds your foolish views.

  • @willchancellor6944
    @willchancellor6944 4 роки тому +78

    [takes drag of cigarette] "I was with a bunch of people in San Diego who were really into Ricci Flow..."

  • @Q.Mechanic
    @Q.Mechanic 3 роки тому +19

    He has a gold heart. Humble, and sincere.

  • @jakedesnake97
    @jakedesnake97 9 років тому +326

    Hey Brady, could you make a series of videos explaining every millennium problems please?

    • @nasajetpropulsionlaborator8727
      @nasajetpropulsionlaborator8727 5 років тому +5

      Why, so you could talk to them at a party to seem cool?

    • @bradearlharris
      @bradearlharris 4 роки тому +36

      NASA JET PROPULSION LABORATORY isn’t that why numberphile has so many subs?

    • @susanaa.6692
      @susanaa.6692 4 роки тому +1

      Jakedesnake97 they should have taught us in school

    • @Nobody-xp6ip
      @Nobody-xp6ip Рік тому +1

      @@nasajetpropulsionlaborator8727 bruh shut the f*ck up? then why do we learn anything? who said you need to watch them? but the 300 people who liked the OP's comment do like the idea

    • @zy-fy8423
      @zy-fy8423 8 місяців тому +2

      ​@@nasajetpropulsionlaborator8727 nah he is just curious chill bruh

  • @emzy1083
    @emzy1083 4 роки тому +71

    Perelman was my dad's classmate! From what I've been told, he's a super-nerd but is also a genius!

    • @ianleo3030
      @ianleo3030 4 роки тому +2

      U from Russia?

    • @emzy1083
      @emzy1083 4 роки тому +14

      @@ianleo3030 parents were born in st petersburg, i was born in america.

    • @stkelen9535
      @stkelen9535 2 роки тому +11

      @@fio123 They are 2 different Perelmans.

    • @bustofpallasathena
      @bustofpallasathena 11 місяців тому

      @@stkelen9535 whos th anothr 1?

    • @stkelen9535
      @stkelen9535 11 місяців тому

      @@bustofpallasathena Yakov Perelman

  • @navarretedf
    @navarretedf 7 років тому +960

    2:15 OMG they predicted fidget spinners 3 years ago 😱

    • @tiberiu_nicolae
      @tiberiu_nicolae 6 років тому +96

      David Navarrete They were mathematically inevitable

    • @msrasras
      @msrasras 5 років тому +3

      Buhahaha

    • @whatno5090
      @whatno5090 5 років тому +8

      They should have warned us

    • @chrisreynolds6391
      @chrisreynolds6391 5 років тому +6

      Ball, donut, pretzel, fidget, fidget spinner.

    • @Violet-tb8xo
      @Violet-tb8xo 5 років тому +15

      I came into the comments just looking for someone to have said this.

  • @vinaloi41
    @vinaloi41 10 років тому +28

    Thank you so much for this Brady. I love these Millenium Problems.

  • @SystemofEleven
    @SystemofEleven 9 років тому +87

    The only thing I know about this particular brand of math is that a donut and a coffee mug are apparently mathematically the same thing. And this is because one of my math teachers was very creative about coming up with excuses why he had food in class, heh

    • @MattL34
      @MattL34 9 років тому +10

      MsBoredom22 Yeah, a little more formally, two spaces are considered to be "equivalent" in this sense if you can come up with a "nice" continuous function between the two spaces. A sphere and a donut are not "equivalent" in this sense because a sphere has no holes and a donut has a hole. This hole causes problems which makes it impossible for there to be this sort of "nice" function between the sphere and the donut.
      Of course, this can be described very rigorously and precisely, but that's the general idea of what's going on.

    • @ganondorfchampin
      @ganondorfchampin 7 років тому +12

      What topology is actually referring to is the local connections between points. Imagine you draw a circle on a sheet of paper, and you contract that circle down around a single point until it becomes a point. That circle defines what points are "adjacent" to the point. With topology, you can move points further away from each other and in different directions, but the locality is still the same: you can do the same circle contracting thing and it will collapse to the adjacent points in the same way. To add a hole though you're have to either remove points or break the connection between some, changing the locality. Imagine you have a sheet of a paper with a line running across it. You could tear a whole in the middle of the paper, but it would divide the line in half. It's not saying a donut and a coffee mug are the same thing, but that you can deform a donut shape into a coffee mug shape without changing locality, and they are said to be homeomorphic. It's similar congruence or similarity, only it's concerned with functions that preserve locality rather than distance or relative distance.

    • @billboudreaux1
      @billboudreaux1 4 роки тому

      lol

  • @ErwinSchrodinger64
    @ErwinSchrodinger64 10 років тому +355

    While a very intriguing story, I'm surprised there were no reasons given why Dr. Perelman declined the money, fame, and accolades. His reasons, on some parts, I completely agree... many fields become doctrines that are devised by a very selected few. Science and mathematics are seriously suffering from a lack of openness to new ideas because of these centralized ideas (string theory, molecular quantum mechanics, and so forth). Unfortunately, not only is his intelligence and insight incredible but the his level of humbleness, unselfishness, and grace are far beyond most people.

    • @danphillips8530
      @danphillips8530 4 роки тому +13

      Because he's a weird dude and weird dudes do weird things, the type of things a normal genius would think of as not normal.

    • @sergiocaruso1331
      @sergiocaruso1331 3 роки тому +3

      He's a weird dude

    • @VithalNadkarni
      @VithalNadkarni 3 роки тому +5

      You have a deep point: Please check out my take on Perelman's refusal, which appeared in my column on the editorial page of The Economic Times:
      Man who said `No' to Million Dollars
      Imagine walking away from a medal regarded as the maths equivalent of the Nobel Prize. If that's easy, imagine solving a hundred-year-old conundrum ranked among seven of the world's greatest mathematical problems, each worth a million dollars. Grigory Perelman, a reclusive Russian mathematician, has done it all with the nonchalance of a nishkamya yogi.
      In shocking contrast, the conduct of the Fields Medal-winner Shing-tung Yau seems to accord well with the Iron Age of Kali: the Chinese mathematician has attacked his former protégé, tried to overthrow an aging mentor in a well-publicised attempt to grab credit for solving the million-dollar problem named after the French theoretician Henri Poincare.
      Perelman's otherworldliness was on display from his student days. In 1982, the year that Yau won a Fields Medal, he earned a perfect score and a gold medal at the International Mathematics Olympiad in Budapest.
      A Russian mathematician who later became his Ph D advisor said Perelman was different: "There are a lot of students of high ability who speak before thinking," he told The New Yorker. "(Grisha) thought deeply. His answers were always correct. He always checked very, very carefully and he was not fast. Speed means nothing. Math doesn't depend on speed. It is about deep."
      In 1992, when Perelman spent a semester in American universities some of his colleagues were taken aback by his fingernails, which were several inches long. If someone asked why he didn't cut them, he would reply in a manner echoing a Taoist sage, "If they grow, why wouldn't I let them grow?"
      He went back to a job in Russia that paid him less than a hundred dollars a month. He said he'd saved enough money in the US to live on for the rest of his life.
      He seemed obsessed by the Poincare Conjecture described as a kind of 20 th century Pythagorean Theorem. But after proving it, he didn't even mention it. "I didn't worry too much myself," he said. "This was a famous problem. Some people needed time to get accustomed to the fact this was no longer a conjecture." He turned down the Fields Medal conferred on him and broke away from his profession.
      A colleague described Perelman's logic thus, "To do great work you have to have a pure mind. You can only think of mathematics. Everything else is human weakness. Accepting prizes is showing human weakness. An ideal scientist does science and cares about nothing else." ENDS

      Vithal C Nadkarni

      409 words (2014 characters without spaces, including byline)
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    • @moranii1843
      @moranii1843 3 роки тому +40

      @@danphillips8530 What a thinker you must be

    • @drihtamnetu
      @drihtamnetu 3 роки тому +1

      Schrodinger, you sneaky boi

  • @imanuelc143
    @imanuelc143 Рік тому +19

    -comes
    -Solve one of the hardest math problem
    -resisting the prize
    -refuse to elaborate
    -leaves

  • @kwstaskartas9488
    @kwstaskartas9488 10 років тому +96

    Your last videos are amazing Brady ! Excellent choices.

  • @JohnHobitakis
    @JohnHobitakis 10 років тому +25

    Perelman is a great character in the world of mathematics, thanks for this video. The millennium questions are very captivating, I wonder how long it will take for the next one to be solved.

  • @harvintoledo734
    @harvintoledo734 4 роки тому +12

    Poincare Conjecture is a fascinating problem because we start to make many questions about what are indicated equations to solve it. It sounds simple but there are many theorems we need to know and use to get it.

  • @billtruttschel
    @billtruttschel 10 років тому +539

    Shouldn't we stop calling it a "conjecture" now that it has been proven?

    • @fergusmaclachlan1404
      @fergusmaclachlan1404 7 років тому +178

      Yes, it should be the Poincare Theorem now.

    • @NoNamedNobody692
      @NoNamedNobody692 6 років тому +104

      Not necessarily.
      Perelman only solved a very specific case of P.C.
      1. The General P..C. for the 3-Sphere still remains an open problem in Topology
      2. Same goes for the 4-Sphere
      The only reason the don’t appear to mention this is because it would be most likely too difficult to explain to individuals who aren’t mathematicians.
      Even the standard definition of the P.C. won’t make much sense outside of those individuals who have ever taken a Topology class before, and that’s usually taken around 3rd or 4th year for Mathematics majors in College during their Undergraduate years.

    • @chandrapandey822
      @chandrapandey822 6 років тому +36

      SFLOVER94
      Haha true I'm studying low Dimensional Topology and yeah it's truly difficult and requires a lot of abstract thinking ( compared to say an advance course in Algebraic Geometry ) but the biggest problem for me is Shortage of time because I have to write my papers and work in my area so finding additional time to read the proof just for the sake of knowing is just not possible..

    • @NoriMori1992
      @NoriMori1992 4 роки тому +12

      I think when people have been calling a problem by one name for so long, they'll resist changing its name later. Besides, it wouldn't be the only problem to have an inaccurate name. Fermat's Last Theorem was called such long before it was ever proven.

    • @rifatzehra6546
      @rifatzehra6546 3 роки тому +2

      @@NoriMori1992 agreed

  • @JensenPlaysMC
    @JensenPlaysMC 5 років тому +19

    Came here to understand this, although an interesting video, i would have liked to have some brief explanation of what this proof actual stated and the basic logic behind what he was trying to do

  • @benjaminbrady2385
    @benjaminbrady2385 6 років тому +26

    2:17 Numberphile predicted fidget spinners before anyone else

  • @bentoth9555
    @bentoth9555 8 років тому +260

    But, according to Homer Simpson, if it's a real donut then nibbles are allowed.

    • @chuffer595
      @chuffer595 8 років тому +2

      I loved that book on Simpsons maths

    • @bentoth9555
      @bentoth9555 8 років тому +1

      Me too. I saw Simon talking about it on one of the Numberphile videos then immediately checked my local library.

    • @SJ-to3dt
      @SJ-to3dt 7 років тому

      pseudo science it is then .. =D

    • @69erthx1138
      @69erthx1138 5 років тому +1

      So n-tiny Homer's approaching width 0 could make m-nibbles {m-> infinity}....hold on, "what were we talking about?"

    • @ishworshrestha3559
      @ishworshrestha3559 4 роки тому

      Yui

  • @AlanKey86
    @AlanKey86 10 років тому +698

    Ooh... I just remembered an orange peeling question I had once which seems vaguely relevant to this video!
    *Is it possible to peel an orange such that its skin comes off in a donut type shape (as defined around **1:45**)? That is, one continuous loop that has a hole in it.*
    I have an answer to this question - a most elegant proof. But this comment box is too small to contain it.

    • @TheRealFlenuan
      @TheRealFlenuan 9 років тому +54

      No it's not; UA-cam updated the settings so that comments aren't limited in size.

    • @jaybrown6225
      @jaybrown6225 9 років тому +71

      The Real Flenuan Look up Fermat's last theorem :-)

    • @TheRealFlenuan
      @TheRealFlenuan 9 років тому +13

      Jay Brown I already know what it is. -.-

    • @jaybrown6225
      @jaybrown6225 9 років тому +112

      The Real Flenuan OK . . . sorry if I am being dense, I took Alankey86's comment to be a humorous reference - "I have an answer to this question - a most elegant proof. But this comment box is too small to contain it." - to Fermat's note in his margin. I thought your comment about the comment box size not being limited missed his joke, but as I say, maybe your sense of humor is too subtle for me and went over my head. Anyways, I just thought Alankey86's comment was funny :-)

    • @jamesusespivot
      @jamesusespivot 9 років тому +4

      I think I figured it out. May post a vid.

  • @sean3533
    @sean3533 10 років тому +22

    I saw a video on another channel about topology showing how a sphere could be turned inside-out following those same rules. It had a really cool animation but didn't explain very well how it was done.

  • @maxschmidt1787
    @maxschmidt1787 6 років тому +6

    It amazes me that so many people watch your videos, always thought that math is not that popular.

  • @analogico3615
    @analogico3615 2 роки тому +1

    Katie explained it so well

  • @viewinventions5044
    @viewinventions5044 4 роки тому

    I Love this channel with all my heart.

  • @zacharyhizon5165
    @zacharyhizon5165 7 років тому +287

    2:16 what kind of fidget spinners are those

    • @TheLordoftheDarkness
      @TheLordoftheDarkness 6 років тому +34

      I stopped the video to see how many likes would the person who would write a comment about fidget spinners get.

    • @batatah
      @batatah 6 років тому +2

      Dark_Lord 9 I did the same thing 😂😂😂😂😂

    • @alecapin
      @alecapin 6 років тому

      i just did the same :3

  • @jacderida
    @jacderida 10 років тому +3

    Another awesome video! Are there gonna be videos on all the millennium problems?

  • @miguelreinozo4085
    @miguelreinozo4085 5 років тому +2

    Excelente vídeo. Gracias por difundirlo.

  • @energysage9774
    @energysage9774 10 років тому +59

    There's a tiny piece of misinformation in the video. When mathematicians refer to a 2-dimensional sphere they mean the same thing as the laypersons sphere which exists in 3 dimensions (because its surface is 2 dimensional, just curved). This wouldn't be an issue since it's just a matter of convention, but the distinction became important when she talked about the conjecture having been proven for 5-spheres and up. In this case she meant the mathematicians "5-sphere," (which thus exists in 6 dimensional space) which is two more dimensions than the final case which Perelman proved, and not 1 dimension higher, which is what the video implied.
    It's a curious fact that it was eventually easier to prove the higher dimensional versions of the conjecture (7 was proven before 5), but an intuitive way to understand that is that you have more "elbow room" so to speak.

    • @zoetropo1
      @zoetropo1 7 років тому +3

      This is what is so interesting about the margins, when constraints and degrees of freedom are balanced in such a way that solutions either don't exist or are needles in the haystack.

    • @DavidB5501
      @DavidB5501 7 років тому +2

      I don't know if it's a relevant comparison, but proving the 5-or-more-color theorem was a lot easier than the 4-color theorem!

  • @Galbex21
    @Galbex21 3 роки тому +19

    I guess if you can solve the hardest mathematical problems for humanity, you really don't think too much about money or prizes.

  • @divyanshupandey4728
    @divyanshupandey4728 2 роки тому +8

    I am a undergrad student in Mathematics and I know this video dumbs down the conjecture so that we all can comprehend it easily but i would appreciate if someone provides a guided path to form a basic background in understanding Perelman's proof . Just some directions to navigate forward
    (I have basic knowledge on real analysis and calculus )

  • @nekad2000
    @nekad2000 4 роки тому +38

    Most brilliance languishes in obscurity. Unfortunately, this is the world we have fostered: people with few brains a tons of ambition usually take take the credit. People like Steve Jobs fit this example perfectly.

  • @BeyondWrittenWords
    @BeyondWrittenWords 10 років тому +56

    Grigori is no bs

  • @TDansVids
    @TDansVids 7 років тому +7

    I love how you have James wearing a Red Sox hat the whole video and Brady at the end wearing a Yankees hat.
    Go Blue Jays ;)

  • @clockwerk7547
    @clockwerk7547 10 років тому +599

    So... what is the Poincaré Conjecture?

    • @batterup98
      @batterup98 9 років тому +6

      Tacky Yeah Don't be rude.

    • @tackyyeah8688
      @tackyyeah8688 9 років тому +9

      batterup98
      I apologize if you're offended, but I was offended by what is a rather troll-type of question ... but I hope you appreciate the incredible wit that insult of mine showed ... sphere into torus by way of bullet!

    • @ktkatte6791
      @ktkatte6791 7 років тому +2

      durrr - you

    • @FirstInstruMentalist
      @FirstInstruMentalist 6 років тому +124

      "If you can put it in a box and close the lid, and it doesn't have any holes, than its a sphere, in any dimension"

    • @yulio3000
      @yulio3000 6 років тому +48

      It can be turned into a sphere in any dimension with only stretches squeezes and morphs*
      Is what I believe is the conjecture. Not necessarily that it is a sphere, which of course is ludicrous, because we can instantly disprove that in our 3 dimensions by looking at a cube.

  • @MrVaskor
    @MrVaskor 5 років тому +2

    OMG hi Katie! I finally came across your video! :)

  • @justicewarrior9187
    @justicewarrior9187 3 роки тому +5

    I can't even imagine how difficult this girls course was

  • @lukel4297
    @lukel4297 8 років тому +41

    Next video: Navier-Stokes equation!

  • @AliHamedMoosavian
    @AliHamedMoosavian 10 років тому +31

    Brady, you should make a video with Perelman himself.

  • @vitorstraatmann2732
    @vitorstraatmann2732 5 років тому +1

    Please do a video about the navier-stokes equation!!

  • @relike868p
    @relike868p 10 років тому

    Another Topology video! That's amazing... more people should be interested in these stuffs!

  • @darthvatrayen
    @darthvatrayen 10 років тому +35

    What about a hollowed sphere? Can that be made into a solid sphere or does that count as a "hole"?

    • @blackkittyfreak
      @blackkittyfreak 6 років тому +7

      If it's a hollow sphere with thickness, then in classic 2-dimensional topology it would count as two distinct surfaces rather than one, because the inside is not connected topologically to the outside. But if you're working with 3-dimensional topology it would be considered a higher-dimensional torus.

    • @maxchatterji5866
      @maxchatterji5866 6 років тому

      Yes

    • @ChrisBandyJazz
      @ChrisBandyJazz 5 років тому +3

      A “hollowed” sphere is just two spheres. We’re just talking about 3d objects that have a single continuous surface.

  • @jesuschrist7037
    @jesuschrist7037 4 роки тому +15

    0:45 There is a certain relationship between geometry and topology. Lol I always thought topology is just big daddy of geometry.

  • @TheLlamachupacabra
    @TheLlamachupacabra 10 років тому

    Please do videos on all 7 unsolved problems. Somewhere out there some 10 yr old kid is watching. yrs down the road will be one to solve them. Numberphile could influence human history! Thanks for what u do!

  • @zeynepbayram5127
    @zeynepbayram5127 7 років тому +2

    you guys should do a video on the difference between rimman integral and lebesgue integral

  • @Andrew-es6yt
    @Andrew-es6yt 4 роки тому +24

    I speak Russian. From the few interviews on the web it becomes obvious that Perelman made very weighted and rational decision to refuse the money. Mostly because he thinks Hamilton made more for the solution. Actually, he hates when people think that he is some kind of a crazy genius. He is not.

  • @TheFool_0
    @TheFool_0 3 роки тому +36

    Who's here after count dankulas video?

  • @vineetasinghverma5534
    @vineetasinghverma5534 Рік тому +1

    Yes I want to listen to Dr. GrigoriPerelman!

  • @barneyronnie
    @barneyronnie 7 місяців тому

    Grigori's eyebrows are worthy of worship!

  • @Avaricumstudios
    @Avaricumstudios 3 роки тому +9

    Grigori conjecture: *why Grigori refused one million dollars*

    • @greywolf7577
      @greywolf7577 3 місяці тому

      Grigori refused the million dollars because he had mastered mathematics to such a degree that he could manipulate space time and create anything he desired. Thus money was worthless pieces of paper to him.

  • @loganmyall660
    @loganmyall660 3 роки тому +4

    Convinced Perelman has been working since he left the math community. the questions are; on what, and is it even finishable?

  • @KMusic_13
    @KMusic_13 9 років тому +1

    Have you guys thought about doing a video on Navier-Stokes? I think that's a really fascinating problem and it's seems more intuitively applicable than Poincaré.

  • @tigmanshu4494
    @tigmanshu4494 Рік тому +1

    Perelman.
    Solves one of the hardest problem ever.
    Refuses to take the prize money.
    Leaves.
    🗿

  • @zackyezek3760
    @zackyezek3760 6 років тому +5

    What if I was allowed N "forbidden" operations for my topological transformations (e.g. N cuts or sphere closures)? I can imagine turning donuts into spheres with a single cut in the real world, so having a generalized topology for that kind of thing seems like it would make sense. Also, it seems like you could have classes of objects where one cannot be transformed into another even with infinitely many cuts.

  • @rationalmind3567
    @rationalmind3567 5 років тому +41

    this is called actual genius and not those who claim their IQ is of 100 or 200 or say they have cleared some entrance exams.

    • @membersonly807
      @membersonly807 4 роки тому +2

      Perelmans IQ is over 175

    • @hexa3389
      @hexa3389 4 роки тому +1

      @@membersonly807 I am not sure if this is true but I have heard that IQ has factors involving wealth and quality of life which ofcourse don't contribute to how smart you are.

    • @membersonly807
      @membersonly807 4 роки тому +4

      @@hexa3389 income and iq correlate with each other , people with higher iq earn more money on average

    • @hexa3389
      @hexa3389 4 роки тому +6

      @@membersonly807 but children? Do they earn money? Or what about people who live on poor countries but are smart any way?

    • @costakeith9048
      @costakeith9048 4 роки тому +5

      @@hexa3389 While in the typical range wealth and IQ are correlated, once you reach a certain level of IQ that correlation disappears and even reverses. At some point you become intelligent enough to realize that nothing in this material world means a damned thing.

  • @SomeRandomFellow
    @SomeRandomFellow 7 років тому +2

    you guys should have a vid on all the millenium problems. you have this and the riemann hypothesis (and kinda pvnp), but i would like to see others

    • @ZigaPSkraba
      @ZigaPSkraba 7 років тому

      Some Random Fellow : Riemann's wasn't a millenium problem btw.

    • @SomeRandomFellow
      @SomeRandomFellow 7 років тому +1

      Žiga P. Škraba the Riemann Hypothesis is a Millenium Problem

    • @ZigaPSkraba
      @ZigaPSkraba 7 років тому

      Some Random Fellow : you're right, sorry. For some reason I mixed it up with Fermat's last theorem.

    • @SomeRandomFellow
      @SomeRandomFellow 7 років тому +1

      Žiga P. Škraba lol i do that sometimes

    • @Ikebot
      @Ikebot 7 років тому

      Or you could just make a millenium problems playlsit

  • @Chewligan1
    @Chewligan1 4 роки тому +1

    I looked at Perelman's paper - I could only recognise the full stops !!! The stuff in between was a blur !!!

  • @dudeistpreist5721
    @dudeistpreist5721 3 роки тому +3

    He being a genius was treated poorly by his peers and hated people. He saw most as holding ego over the field and hated the behaviors of journalists and by extension the prizes.

  • @warriormanhasdied6479
    @warriormanhasdied6479 3 роки тому +37

    who is here after count dankula.

    • @warriormanhasdied6479
      @warriormanhasdied6479 3 роки тому +4

      I don’t want your likes, stop rewarding me.

    • @beans2939
      @beans2939 3 роки тому +2

      @@warriormanhasdied6479You are disturbing me, I'm picking mushrooms

    • @mezzy238
      @mezzy238 3 роки тому +2

      It's your boy... RAID SHADOW LEGENDS

  • @jamesehrhart9364
    @jamesehrhart9364 2 роки тому

    Wow! I took one of my math classes from James Isenberg. I think it was differential geometry.

  • @keahnbruzzi8423
    @keahnbruzzi8423 8 років тому

    This is so inspiring

  • @nadivkaspi6211
    @nadivkaspi6211 6 років тому +5

    2:15 its a figit spinner, 3 years ahead of its time. TRIGGERED.
    great video :D

  • @indyreilley
    @indyreilley 10 років тому +3

    Math is so cool! I love the TARDIS shirt!

  • @ornestebuitkute9720
    @ornestebuitkute9720 5 років тому

    That's brilliant !

  • @123must
    @123must 10 років тому

    Thanks a lot ! Very interesting.

  • @MetroAndroid
    @MetroAndroid 10 років тому +19

    It would just be so great if every one of the Millennium Math Problems' Solvers refused the million dollar prize.

    • @nileshjambhekar7699
      @nileshjambhekar7699 9 років тому +17

      I disagree respectfully. These are once in a lifetime problems that require year if not decades of dedicated work. People have to feed their families. Ideally we would pay our mathematicians better.

    • @Skidonti
      @Skidonti 9 років тому +12

      Nilesh Jambhekar Yes. The amount of time and work that goes into these millennium problems would be worth far more than a million dollars if in the actual market anyway.

    • @MetroAndroid
      @MetroAndroid 8 років тому +4

      The Vidlets Nah, I just think it's hilarious that he didn't take it, and it would be funny if everyone refused it. Has nothing to do with morals.

    • @___________2204
      @___________2204 8 років тому

      MetroAndroid Oh.... You should have said so bro

    • @JMBBproject
      @JMBBproject 8 років тому +1

      +Nilesh Jambhekar I am totally agreeing with your statement. My turbulence professor said that even for the navier stokes equation people should pay 10 million or more because not everybody knows how much work behind such theories is! It is so hard to understand and grab at some point.

  • @-IYN-
    @-IYN- 5 років тому +36

    Grigori Perelman is not a strange man. He just doesn't think like a "western" man.

    • @clockfixer5049
      @clockfixer5049 4 роки тому +3

      He valued ethics and conceived maths the most ethical science whose community shared high moral standards. For him time proved that he had been sorely mistaken. One of the reasons why he parted company with maths and all the rest.

    • @costakeith9048
      @costakeith9048 4 роки тому +2

      @Floofy shibe It's sad, but not unjustified.

  • @RiotUnderscoreProd
    @RiotUnderscoreProd 4 роки тому

    Wow Katie is intelligent and beautiful. I didn't understand the concepts so much but I enjoyed the narrative.

  • @aarushmullick
    @aarushmullick 6 місяців тому +1

    Grigori Perelman you absolute genius

  • @mishacol
    @mishacol 4 роки тому +2

    Grisha is a living genius. What a brain! I wished I could speak to him, but it is even less possible than solving another unproved conjecture.

  • @subjectline
    @subjectline 3 роки тому +8

    I would love to know what his Mum said about the million dollars.

  • @dhruveshpatel1109
    @dhruveshpatel1109 Рік тому

    Absolute GIGACHAD this guy!!

  • @workoutfanatic7873
    @workoutfanatic7873 2 роки тому

    impressive, he’s a genius for sure

  • @ianalvord3903
    @ianalvord3903 3 роки тому +4

    "Is any smooth, finite shape with no holes a sphere?"
    Can somebody just tell me whether it's true or false already...

  • @drewmqn
    @drewmqn 4 роки тому +5

    π million subscribers, very satisfying.

  • @carolnorton2551
    @carolnorton2551 4 роки тому +1

    just watching this has done physical damage to my brain. Thank you

  • @stt.9433
    @stt.9433 7 років тому

    Reminds me of a French philosophise who was offered a nobel prize but refused for some elevated reason. A problem like that takes years to solve, he's not just some genius who had an epiphany.

  • @user-jy3ns5rv1k
    @user-jy3ns5rv1k 5 років тому +10

    Perelman on why he didn't accept the prize or medal: "I'm not interested in money or fame. I don't want to be put on display like an animal in the zoo." Ironically, this has made him much more famous and "on display" than if he would have accepted the awards.

  • @theonetrueac
    @theonetrueac 10 років тому +5

    Am I the only one with audio problems on this video. All other videos seem to be fine. :-/

  • @ranielyfire
    @ranielyfire 6 років тому

    Its honestly amazing that there are people crazy smart people just laying low - i wonder why though

  • @stevenzhao3414
    @stevenzhao3414 5 років тому +1

    Would've been nice if if the video also explained the significance of the problem. Like if you solve P vs NP there is a huge significance on what kind of problem can be solved by computers. But why do we care if you can squeeze something into sphere in four dimensional space? Not taking a shot at mathmatician just really curious.

  • @Truetheist
    @Truetheist 8 років тому +133

    I feel stupid lol

    • @YnseSchaap
      @YnseSchaap 8 років тому +7

      +Truetheist Don't, this kind of mathematics is purely abstract it has no real use in the real world it's more like seeing if something can be done or not 95 % of the people will never get this kind of math myself included

    • @nose766
      @nose766 8 років тому +38

      +Ynse Schaap A huge chunk of pure mathematics has applications on physics.

    • @YnseSchaap
      @YnseSchaap 8 років тому +1

      Kevin U It has but how close is physics to the real world of most people I believe just as far as math, try explaining entanglement to the average joe

    • @YnseSchaap
      @YnseSchaap 8 років тому

      cious li Would have done a lot for me that's for sure

    • @datojokhadze7860
      @datojokhadze7860 8 років тому +1

      +Ynse Schaap well it's not exactly like that,people try to prove some of the problems,which are non-relevant,as you say,to the most of the things,but in fact,they derive new problems,which are more relevant and some day i'm pretty sure that P vs NP problem(one of the millenium problems,and the most important one,actually) will be solved and then there will be total turn over in whole science or non-science industry

  • @AnindyaMahajan
    @AnindyaMahajan 4 роки тому +3

    2:11
    Numberphile predicted the fidget spinner!

  • @MrFusionFox
    @MrFusionFox 10 років тому +1

    Why is the guy named James Isenberg in this video and James Isner in the Ricci Flow video?

  • @VineetaSinghVerma
    @VineetaSinghVerma Рік тому +2

    Dr. Grigori Yakhnov Perelman!

  • @miweapp2692
    @miweapp2692 5 років тому +5

    The 8th millennium problem by CLAY Institute: Perelman money declining

    • @user-xh9pu2wj6b
      @user-xh9pu2wj6b 5 років тому

      One of the versions: taxes. The other one: he wanted to live a quite life but got huge attention and now everyone kniw where he lives. Imagine what could happen to him if he decided to take the money.

  • @WaleedVcboy
    @WaleedVcboy Рік тому +3

    I love reading and gaining knowledge of maths and science all the time. The more I know, the more dangerous it gets.
    After watching this video, I asked my mate what my name is? 😂
    Great work Lad. Need to read more about this conjecture, not completely clear.

  • @Fallingmonsters
    @Fallingmonsters 3 роки тому +1

    3:50, If I'm not mistaken, it was Freedman in 1990 (d=4) and Smale in 1960-1 (for d>4) (as shown by the papers at this timestamp). You say it was "4d spheres that was still unsolved" -- did Freedman's 1990 not do this? Wasn't Perelman for 3d? I know language and timelines can easily break down if not used very precisely so I'm not at all suggesting you're "wrong" lol, just trying to understand. Thank you

  • @inquaanate2393
    @inquaanate2393 3 роки тому +2

    Grigori loves the purity of maths, everything else is expedient. I hope he’s still working.

  • @MrWorshipMe
    @MrWorshipMe 8 років тому +66

    I did not understand from this video what the conjecture was... just that it's premises were about a finite object with no holes like a sphere, but in any number of dimensions... what was the actual conjecture? why is this conjecture important? I really don't care about the personality or appearance of the one who proved it...

    • @Patsoawsm
      @Patsoawsm 8 років тому +22

      +MrWorshipMe The conjecture is: If you have any such object, i.e. any shape you can imagine but without holes in it and not "infinitely large", then there is always a way to push it around and deform it into a sphere. The inifitely large part is simply to avoid things like an infinite plane. It certainly has no holes but you won't be able to deform it into a sphere!

    • @RosarioLeonardi
      @RosarioLeonardi 8 років тому +29

      +MrWorshipMe 2:23 "If a object which don't have hole on it and it's finite then it's a sphere (or can be made into a sphere)". Seems trivial on 3d space, but mathematician needs a proof so it can made generic.

    • @lenks0
      @lenks0 8 років тому +4

      +MrWorshipMe Agreed, this was more about the person who solved it and not much about the actual conjecture, difficulties, solution, applications, etc.

    • @ganondorfchampin
      @ganondorfchampin 7 років тому

      I looked into it, and the sphere was actually the final case to be solved.

    • @dennisbarac1052
      @dennisbarac1052 5 років тому

      @@RosarioLeonardi so maybe I understand it correctly...if I have a rope and i travel with a spaceship around a cricle..i reach the end of the rope and i try to tighten the rope...if it really gets tightened then the universe is finite? If it doesn't get tightened then the universe is infinite? Or did I miss something?

  • @Gigatless
    @Gigatless 2 роки тому +5

    Anytime I feel that my coding job is too hard I go and watch some math videos and my life seems easy again

  • @tomp2008
    @tomp2008 9 років тому

    i like that little guy on her necklace.. what's that from? could swear i've seen it somewhere before

  • @jebus6kryst
    @jebus6kryst 10 років тому +1

    I love her Doctor Who shirt and robot necklace. The robot fits perfectly in front of the TARDIS.
    :)