Part 20-2 MicroHydro Power System in CO
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- Опубліковано 31 тра 2018
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SYNOPSIS Part 2 of 3 which is a review of the entire multi-year Micro Hydro upgrade project.
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SYNOPSIS
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INSTALLATION AND RUNNING OF SECOND SYSTEM
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MEASUREMENTS FOR SECOND SYSTEM
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FIRST SYSTEM
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Special Thanks to Classic Construction, Montrose CO - Навчання та стиль
Just binge watched the whole series again and now these overview video’s. Just can’t get enough of it. Thank you letting us enjoy your great work, both the hydropower installation and producing these video’s! 🙏
Thanks so much for watching. Its nice to hear when someone appreciates it all. Soon I will start on a new update
Such a good series over the years, I hope you build and document more projects of any type. You're presentation style is pristine. Professional, calm, complete. Thanks for the content
Pro trick : you can watch series on flixzone. Me and my gf have been using it for watching all kinds of movies during the lockdown.
@Jesiah Payton Yup, I've been watching on Flixzone} for years myself =)
The combination of practical explanation, theory, cinematography, music and explanation, well balanced and very well documented. I love it! Thank you. Makes perfect sense when I read that you were a cinematographer!
Thx for watching and the kind comment.
Love to hear your voice with no music in the background, it’s easier to hear and understand your message. Thank you for sharing your amazing video. God bless you and your family
Glad you like. Thx for watching
MrHydrohead you are welcome
These videos are fantastic! You have provided excellent information in a simple and understandable manner. The video work is very professional and allows us to see everything with great detail. I would think that a DIY show or network would be interested in purchasing your series and showing it! Well done and thanks for sharing this series of videos with us, and please keep them coming!
Thank you! for not using music. I love the sound of water flow, wind and nature at your back ground
Your micro hydro series seames s to be the most extensive and in-depth. Congrats
Thx for watching!
Another great video! Thanks for taking the time !!
Most welcome. Thx for watching
I love all of these videos...thank you for sharing your experience with us!
Thx for watching
That's project amazing, its inspiring me. see u the next works
Great over view
I hope you've git more of such amazing projects lined up. Your videos are the best among rest of DIY hydro.
Hopefully I will find projects of interest. Thx for watching
Thank you for the awesome vids! Good quality and extremely informative 👊👊✌
Thx for watching 🤓
Awesome. Very inspiring!
Thx for watching
Great job, you should be proud. Enjoy your hard work.
Thx for watching!
That was a lot of work. Looks like outcome is good
Yes indeed it was. But now have lots of effort free power. So nice! Thx for watching
great video, i want MORE! :D
Part 3 coming within the week
Yes we have met metering here in Minnesota and grand fathered in to more then I need. I have three phase for the shop or I'd be off grid I do have a battery back up System it's an R and D project it's tied into both solar and Bergey wind turbine.
Woah someone actually responded 😊
So awesome!
Hey, I'll have to take a look at your vids. thx for watching!
@@mrhydrohead I would be honored! I did a vid about how to compute head and flow.. I fully plan on installing a low head system on my creek
Watching your Epi 5 just now. Thought I would point out an important detail. Around 35:40 you say 1 ft = 2.3 psi. Actually its the other way around 2.31 ft = 1 psi. Thats for static head. Pipe friction if there is any will reduce that calc for dynamic head. I look forward to looking over some of your other videos. We're just coming out of the snow now here in CO.
let me know if I can lend you any ideas or practical advice. MrHydrohead@gmail.com
@@mrhydrohead Ha! You're right! I caught that afterwards and was reminded of it when I watched yours today for the umpteenth time...lol. Thx for that! I'm talking to Spencer Langston at Langstons alternative power as well as the guys in Boise at Aurora power solutions. Each place has a low head solution. And I love your intake. I may end up doing a pond down there and funneling my water from that.. We will see!
I enjoyed watching your project. I think about it whenever I see a stream.
Did you have any significant regulatory issues to deal with?
No not really. I own the land and certainly secured the non consumptive hydro water rights
When you remove the flexible pipe for spring runoff, how does that affect your power output? What are the major changes for that
The power we get during spring runoff comes entirely from water in the meadow which is fed by a much smaller creek flowing out of a lake and spring feed as well. Flow reduces of course and allows us to extract about 3500w without draining the pipe. It's plenty of power for the spring weather conditions and still permits all appliances, plenty of domestic hot water, and the hot tub too. Only changes are removing the diversion vortex intake & flex pipe , reducing the flow at the turbine needle valve, and doing a little reconfiguring of the load controller. Excess power is shunted to both the hot water heater and baseboard heaters in the basement.
Hey guys, I LOVED your series, and just wanted to make sure I got the summary correct:
I Uses 185GPM(700litres) (11litres / sec)
makes 7800W.
Head 234 feet (vertical)
Or 53KW/year or $5830/year (@11cents / KWhr)
Finally, do you have a ballpark on the COST breakdown of just the parts? Assume you have all the free time, helpers, excavators, etc)
Thanks so much!
I saw 400KW per day? I would also like the know the specs
I dont know a lot (yet!) about hydroelectric energy nor the way the 'plumbing' works but what do you do against water knock?
It is necessary to take care to make changes of flow gradually in the penstock. Water Hammer can be a serious issue if you suddenly stop the water. Its like trying to stop tons of water at once and can destroy the system. Just taking care can prevent any problems. Also preventing anything that might get stuck in the jet from ever entering the penstock is important too. Hence the coanda screen in the meadow.
wish i could do something like this in a residential neighborhood. pretty sure HOA would be pretty pissed
Most likely would be bent out of shape lol
Did you ever consider options like the Turbulent Hydro or any other premade things or was your plan to always have a DIY solution, Also any advice on locating property where you could even have a micro hydro setup. That is a beutiful slice of heaven you have there even in the winter it looks magical.
Started in 1995 by attending a hydro course at Solar Energy Intl in Carbondale CO. Instructors helped me decide on methods for first spring fed system. Turb Hydro is fairly new I think.
I would pick a small town that has airline and essential services and then study the maps in the area and engage a real estate broker to help you search. Also check on water rights issues in that state. Make sure it can be accomplished
I discovered our property by watching out of commuter flights from Denver to telluride. You are looking for flow and head in some combination that can be relied upon in all seasons. Then the work starts on researching how much power is there and the best way to harness it for what you feel your realistic needs are. Can you net meter there, AC or DC system, cost of hydro vs. solar, and other things you should consider.
I will admit we were lucky to find this awesome spot, but I was focused on it for a while before committing.
Great vid. Well worth the wait. Will send you an e-mail ind a couple of days
Part 3 will post next weekend . Sorry I haven't gotten back yet. Will do so soon
Take your time, the vids are much more important. I've been gone for a month helping my daughter with a newborn
Question, why are you so careful to maintain the grade ( 1/8" per foot ), aslong as the final elevation of the pipe is at your desired elevation difference the pipe should just act as a siphon once the pipe flow is continuous?
Good question. In the first system (spring fed Parts 1-5 of series) we did have to contend with mountainous uneven terrain. This meant the penstock went up and down in elevation. High points required air vents to release air and prevent air lock which could reduce final pressure at the bottom. Low points required pressure controlled release valves to drain the low areas if we shut the system down.
The creek penstock (parts 6-20) required having an initial long run where it was very flat (300+ feet). If the water would not flow progressively down hill, then we would not have been able to prime the penstock to start the system. If the highest part of the penstock was at all above the intake point then, with water seeking a equilibrium of height, you would have a situation not unlike a hose with the end held higher than the source. It would take a ridiculous volume of water to prime the penstock (which is 2200ft long) before a siphon could be accomplished.
Hope this answers the question. Thanks for watching
Have you checked the powerhouse plumbing yet? If so, did it erode much?
As the water has minimal sediment being carried through the system, we haven't noticed any wear on the pelton cups or plumbing of the penstock.
Thanks for watching. It looks from your comments, you've watched most if not all of the series.
The plan is to continue to document any changes to our system and examine other people's systems of varying capacities to help spread the knowledge of how to achieve micro hydro.
How much did this cost vs simply installing solar?
We started in 1995 acquiring water rights and putting in a penstock from springs. That initial system cost around 25k in 1996 dollars. We also got gravity pressurized domestic water and a pond for raising fish at that price.
When we moved the existing equipment to the creek we incurred additional costs of around 55k in 2015 dollars because we needed a full redesign of penstock, powerhouse, transmission and load management.
People often ask how long it will take to payback the system, but this neglects to consider that we would have had to spend about $140k in 1995 to bring power lines 7 miles into the off grid property. That estimate had ballooned to $250-300k by 2015 when we moved the system. We would have had to pay that to bring power lines in and then had power bills to pay on top of that. So it was a no brainer to install our own system at either juncture and the question of payback was/is a moot question. We look at the installation as an asset investment in the overall property. The power is constant and requires no batteries
There are virtually no maintenance costs. We are still running the initial belts and will shoot a bit of grease in the bearings every couple of months. Every now and then we replace a fitting like on the pipe bridge or the unions on the diversion pipe, but these are parts we have around anyway.
In 1996 when the system was first installed, solar was far more expensive than today. The hydro runs fine in winter and there are no panels to remove snow from. Best solution for us.
Hope this answers your question sufficiently.
Thx for watching.
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Do you know how much the walls eroded?
If you are asking about the hillside near the creek diversion, its an ongoing process. The entire hillside is somewhat liquified by a spring 150 up the hill. The Springtime runoff within the creek eats away at the walls each year in varying degrees depending on scale of snow fall in prior winter. It is the reason we can't really put a permanent structure in the creek bed. If you are asking about the path below the bridge support, it wasn't excessive but could have become a problem if animals continued to use the path. The barbed wire was a precaution.
For me, the only acceptable way to heat a home with electrical energy is by producing the energy without carbon dioxide emissions. Weil done, i love the complete Series.
Thx for watching. I agree. Passive solar is the best by proper design. Lots of our winter heat comes from he south facing double pane windows.
that's a lot of work for just one house. Wouldn't be more efficient to integrate in your energy plan some solar panels plus a ground source heating pump for water heating and photovoltaic cells for electrci supply?
It's a honest question as I have no idea.
We had existing equipment from the spring fed system and the access to a plentiful source of kinetic power in the creek. So we redesigned it and moved it. Besides that after having made power from water for 19+ years, its addictive to increase one's output. Heat pumps were considered, but judged to be a very expensive solution. Solar would have been a waste as we already had so much available power. Cleaning a foot of snow off an array at 8600ft in winter wouldn't have been any fun either. As is the system suits all our needs and then some.
@@mrhydrohead thanks for answering. You did a great job indeed.
greetings
Greeting back to you. Thanks for watching
I have lots of solar and wind turbine. More power then I use
Fantastic. Do you have access to selling the excess?
I have it on utube
Thx and congrats. I'll check it out!
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I don't see a surge tank in your design.
Terry Barber Not sure I know why you would fin this desirable or necessary. Perhaps you could enlighten me on your point of view.
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😎 cool!
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