A Gorgeous, Spiritual Successor to "The Settlers" - Pioneers of Pagonia
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- Опубліковано 15 вер 2024
- The city builder Pioneers of Pagonia is all about exploration, discovery, and reuniting the fantastical islands of Pagonia. Build over 40 different buildings, use more than 70 different types of goods, manage widely branched production chains, and get creative in establishing your economy.
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I wonder if you could upgrade the Guard tower on two paths one could be City watch and its duties change as it is now inside a settlement/city, the other could be Frontier fortification.
Volker Wertich's giant middle finger to Ubisoft after that New Allies abomination looks pretty amazing after such a short time. Can't wait to see what it looks like in a years time.
It's really good to see you not holding up about the critics. That's the main objective of an Early Access game in my view, it's to be criticized so it can evolve. Many of the complaints you have didn't exist in The Settlers III which was the last game Volker worked on, the creator of The Settlers. If he could make it a little bit more like it, I'm sure it would feel much better.
If it works the same as Settlers 2 then you need two woodcutters to counter 1 forester fully so that it won't seed out of control. Or maybe it's 3 woodcutters for 2 foresters - my memory is a bit foggy about the ratio.
It looks promising but we need real farms. Hopefully roads will be upgraded to mitigate congestion. Thanks for testing this game!
I'm actually happy that this game is more grindlike. I hate organic roads. xD Give me a good old Roman grid city anyday of the week.
It´s looks like a fun game!
Fun fact: (maybe related to the game or not) In Argentina there is literally a region called Patagonia, it was named that way by the Europeans because there were Patagones -a race of giants- that supposedly lived there, it´s like the land in the game and was a place for many settlers (mostly Welsh but also Germans and others too). It´s seems like the creators maybe took inspiration and took the TA of the name and said "it´s done".
Havnt seen any of the vid yet - but ive been waiting for content for this game! Liked and commented already!
Reminds me heavily of Knights & Merchants which I think was pre the settlers franchise. The aesthetic of the buildings to the map design but mostly the road congestion. It was super important to have an efficient building layout.
Looks interesting & hopefully they sort out the farming/fields issue.
First release The Settlers June 30, 1993
First release Knights and Merchants September 18, 1998
Oh cool, an another town building, low-tech game!
I sure hope it does not fall into obscurity after a few months!
My problem is Frostpunk put my expectations too high, every other town-builder feels weak by comparison
im usually not in to city builders but frostpunk was really good, the other one im super excited for is manor lords, it might be the one to challenge frostpunk in my mind@@ProjectEkerTest33
@@ProjectEkerTest33 i found frostpunk to be a really good storyteller and tieing game mechanics to storytelling in general unlike most games of the genre which is an achievement. However, i thought it was pretty lackluster compared to straightforward colony/town builders. And that is absolutely fine - every game has it's strengths.
I feel like frostpunk is really more of a survival builder/game than an actual city builder.@@ProjectEkerTest33
It might well fall into obscurity internationally, but unless they mess up really badly the game will at least have a solid community "at home" for years to come.
The lead devs and their old Settler games are considered some of the best in their genre with older gamers here in Germany, including with some decently popular content creators by domestic standards. PoP is partly doing its own thing compared even to Settlers 1 and 2, but it's similar enough and in a great position to pick up the pieces of the disaster that is the newest Settlers game.
I feel like games these days are either $100 AAA blockbusters which are unplayably bugged for the first three months, followed by $10 DLCs and microtransaction lootboxes under the guise of "live service", or a pre-alpha of an early access version of the beta of the early access release of the kickstarter. Nothing in between!
looks promising. Yeah I will definitely buy this on steam when it comes out.
This game is ADDICTIVE! i downloaded the demo yesterday and ended up playing for about 6 hours!
It's interesting to see the reaction outside of Germany since Settlers is pretty big there, but we haven't had a good installment (short of remakes) since 2003. Pioneers of Pagonia is specifically made by the man who created The Settlers, although moving away from PvP (PvE will be a thing, though) in favor of a more cooperative setting.
Some of the final objectives do take quite a bit of waiting, but even the third map can be completed in less than 90 minutes. Maybe it's my experience with the old Settlers, but then again, not all rules apply exactly.
If you haven't played the first four games, you might want to do so for context. The first is the primary inspiration, although you could probably skip it in favor of II (which Wertich did not work on), which is for the most part an enhanced version of the first game. The third game (which Wertich returned for) and it's immediate successor have a very dedicated community and received a bunch of community upgrades in recent years.
All that said, going into these games without any context might be a bit unintuitive, and some mechanics are a bit opaque. You might want to have someone present who can explain things in a bit more detail.
I forgot how much I missed the Settlers.
So hyped for this Video, gonna watch it later. As a german, i have played all settler games and am exited that Volker is working on a settler-like game again (especially after the flop of the newest settler game...). Just (negatively) curious how the game will work without pvp or a Real pve
It reminds me a lot like Settlers 1&2, so if that's the case it might be against an AI opponent or 2, and coins were for higher tier units
It is the creator of Settler 1 & 2 that is behind this game so not very suprising.
Hope it will be as fun
the expanding of borders is the one used in settlers 3&4 but the look and Pathing system is very much settlers 1&2
@@jenspedersen6115Actually yes and no.
Towers alone could expand the borders BUT you could also use Pioneers.
That mix of both kinda feels wrong.
@@theAffeAlien He did not work on Settlers 2 though, which imo does not matter because Settlers 2 is inferior to Settlers 1 in every way.
This looks very interesting and made my Wishlist. I'll be following.
Also, I hope the developer takes your feedback in to account. I agree with quite a lot of the issues you've pointed out that need fixing. Speed controls, multiple farm plots, having to tear down and rebuild buildings to expand. Etc.
Love this game! Please continue to play this!
Yeey! The Settlers!
But when Rimwolrd?
I was really looking for something to scratch the 'Banished' itch and was short of pulling the trigger on the new Settlers game until someone mentioned this game. This looks so much better. I'll just wait it out. I don't normally buy Early Access games but I think I'll consider this one worthy.
Anyone remember hitting F12 in settlers 3 to fast forward 1 minute only to find half the kingdom taken over by an enemy attack?
Ahh good times... :D
10:10 Nope nothing else is there, You are correct on not placing foresters in construction zones. Rest is on you, why would I want to know where forester will dig put a sappling down? That's where the fun is.
This game looks perfect! I will definitely test this. I can hear from how you describe the game that you really don't like that oldskool way of city builders of slooow pace :P I however love it!
It is like the settlers lol
Very excited for this!
I really hope they fix some of these things. Speed control is absolutely necessary. The pathing and road system needs a little work. But this game is gorgeous and I REALLY want to play it. I'm unsure whether or not to try the demo and potentially ruin the experience. Great video!
About trees, it looks like settlers 3 where trees in certain areas where just on of the problems to solve ;)
Pravus maybe play cities skylines 2 when it comes out? A new series would be great! I love it when you narrate your playthrough
I got softwood after watching this
Can we just take a moment to look at the guy on the right hand side of the main menu? That tunic looks oddly familiar. He was known as Chicken Chaser, I believe.
I mean it seems to have a fair amount of problems but the foundation is strong
Played my first settler game not long ago with the newest one but man that one grew old fast but nothing else really has scratched that ich yet
Really do hope this one turns out great
Good thing I came to see this 😂
Well speed button will be helpful but ruin experience of settlers . I played and sure i will buy this game
Looks like a mash of settlers 2 and 3, im playing 3 atm
6:15 Traffic jam?? That is the entire reason people play this game. How to solve bottlenecks and get a lean machine. Why would I want them to go around?
8:10 Ahhh I see that is why. You want an easier game due to getting accustomed to easy games.
Die Siedler brought me here. I played all of them.
Just watched a new video for the game and it has speed controls now.
its like the Foundation
I wanna play games like this but I need more violence in them, like kingdom two crowns
is it still possible to download the demo?
Cant seem to find it on its steam page?
Praise Pravus
Full 3D is overrated for RTS games honestly, except for city builders like the Anno series, this would be so much cooler and easier to handle in a 2.5D isometric view in my opinion
Personally, I avoid those. I really want to rotate to see different angles in my isometric games.
Looks promising ❤
Would be funny if pirated versions gets their metals turn to pigs again
I would have to disagree with you on the statement that no one wants to sit around for 45 minutes watching a building get built. Most of the old city builder games i play for that exact reason. I love making a big plan and then sit and watch as i comes together. But if they could have 2 modes i think that would be a good way to solve this issue.
Looks awsome just like the original 4 Settlers games. The later Settlers games are pretty bad and nothing like the originals. Really looking forward to this
How about changing gamespeed? And Whats the use of accumulating food, shouldn't citizen need food for their survival?
Graphics are great but I feel like gameplay is rather oldschool compared to other games. There are so many awsome mechanics being explored in the genre that this game is missing.
If this is a successor to OG settlers then Silver/Gold is used to make coins to hire and promote soldiers. Its extremely important when you have an enemy but not when your free play like this demo.
Given the reviews on Steam for _Path of War,_ the only other Envision Entertainment game, I'm definitely in the wait and see what this becomes zone before I'd consider giving this much consideration.
Dont exclude Volker werthig. He is the founder of the settlers. His mind is in this game
@@IquonYT It's more about monetization concerns than the _potential_ quality of the game, but if the publisher pushes for an early release or withholding features they can charge for later, that's a problem that is out of Volker's hand. It's just enough of a concern for me that I'd hold out to see a finished product rather than jump in on early access.
@@the_elder_gamer thats a reasonable concern, understandable.
@@the_elder_gamer The game is self-published - Envision Entertainment is both developer and publisher.
There is no Publisher for this game. It’s Volker and his team alone, this time.
kann man direkt ( alt ägypten ) aufbauen ?
It's very settlers like. Many of the complaints you have are mechanics that stem from settlers.
I agree by the way it feels old and that's because it is.
Ive tried to play the demo but it keeps crashing on me whilst starting a game..
Its probably my pc because it sucks.
And im sure as hell nog gonna buy a new pc with all the price gouging going on at the moment.
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I would love to see more HoI4 modded. especially since we haven't seen that in a while. Equestria at war has been significantly added, especially since another continent was added.
Pravus should play more democracy 4. i would love to see a hardest difficulty america run. day 266
Looks promising but needs major overhauls.
Why not just make a new tower in the direction you want to expand? That would speed things up 🤷♂️ can’t just have 1 of each if you want to speed things up.
I hope they don't put in a speed setting, both to spite you and also to make people actually have to think through their planning.
it looks like settlers 7 rev.2 to me. maybe they'll do it better, ubisoft failed miserably in this regard
Oh no... I remember in Settlers they used a "skip time" system where you pressed one of the F* buttons and it would jump forward 5mins later. I hope they don't use that system here as well...
So the map is static in the demo? Makes me wonder just how much replayability this game is going to have.
The scale of the ship look way to big and way to many settlers.
I don't like the way that boundaries are pushed out over time. I think boundary expansion should be set (or contended) when you build a building. Should also be using fences/walls (with access gates) rather than stone markers. The existing fences/walls can be left intact or demolished when expanding further. Then you can create inner-city zones, border zones, districts, etc...
This is excellent, an RTS game set in Patagonia. I am from Argentina; where is Patagonia. Let's see how the game is
Not a huge fan of the art style but If the game is good I'll give it a go.
Looks like a cheaper version of 100 similar games from the last 10 years.
Frankly, after watching your video, I have decided to remove the game from my steam wishlist... to many glaring problems imho.
The Settlers 3 or 4 is still better. Waiting for remaster... I had a hope but unfortunately not this time. PoP removed from my Steam wishlist.
lame
Good video. Not a good game.
Day 65 of asking for HOI4 TNO
Yawn! What new? Games like this don't bring anything new to game play (apart from different graphics)
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Cute game but at a glance, several issues are obvious :
1. Roads need upgrades
2. Guards need to guard, not place stuff, if get attacked and they are 500 miles away placing stones, who guards what ? Also frontier guards or towers .
3. As mentioned, speed modifiers.
4. Awkward placing of buildings. It looks like he struggles to place them or position it ideally.
5. Patchy farming ?! LOL !!!
6. Clear, demolish, delete.
7. Pausing or distributing more manpower to buildings.
Hm, quite a list here, didn't think it'll get this big... oh well.. Cheers !!!
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In future stupid kid