@@tvcak3s414 Cringe is it to give non-Evoker Dracthyrs, which Blizz just implemented for no reason, better visuals and talents than the original Dracthyrs.
One thing to add not combat wise! the “blood elf” visage form for dracthyrs have more customization options and hairstyles! thats one of the best things for me
Every meta m+ class will be forced to race swap to dracthyr for title pushing. This utility would be insane on multiple people. And keep in mind that tail swipe is a knock-up and doesn't make a dr.
I have to say right now when it comes mobility I still value my Goblin Jump higher than the "Double Jump / Glide" From Dractyhr. It saved me often in Raid when I get a mechanic and have to "move" fast to a specific place or during knockbacks etc.
I agree about needing to move quickly that goblin jump is superior, but for knockbacks, glide is much better. All you have to do is hit spacebar twice and you completely negate all knockbacks with no CD.
I was really considering going goblin priest this expansion because of this. Goblin jump is so damn useful compared to the void elf teleport. The teleport is annoying to use, and twice the cooldown, for some unknown reason. It did have some useful scenarios like teleporting through the walls on the Echo of Neltharion fight, but still. Now i'm kind of considering Drakthyr instead because of the visuals, but 20 euro for a race change is a bit much. Maybe if it's on sale at some point..
Why would they? Blizzard already dislikes Evokers. It would be just even more obvious if they made a class that is new to Dracthyrs get MORE visuals than the real dragons.
@@Enchantix00Sasori what do you mean bro Evokers literally got all the actual dragon abilities. Having sarkareth form for shadow priest wouldn’t be anything out of line. We already have paladins unique effects for blood elf’s Shamans unique totems You gotta be really fukin stupid if you think giving a sarkareth form to shadow priests Would mean evokers THE LITERAL CLASS THAT HAS THE MOST EFFECTS IN THE GAME be somehow less exiting
I seriously considered Dracthyr for my Hunter main, but like you said, now they changed most of the things in this video for non-Evoker classes, because their racials were too overpowered. 🙂 Tail Swipe is removed, and the 50% mobility increase when double jumping is gone. So essentially, Dracthyr still have immunity to knockbacks (if you double jump), can glide (with reduced speed), and has the Wing Buffet racial (on a 3min CD). And the Visage form is also still active when using Wing Buffet, and won't swap you into Dragon form. So it is only when using Soar you swap.
The goat pumping content, i think for once, i wont play shadow for an expansion, the first time in probably over 12 years and then i watch you an still get the urge to return the to shadow. Man twiniking at the moment and seeing arcane damage or monks and dhs damage and how easy they feel i really wonder why i bother with shadow. But i remember once i see how cool the shadow scene is, even if the spec isnt peak and the current rotation is broing as fk and doest really play well, watching your vids makes it fun again
Does the visage form still boost out of combat health regen for the party like it does on evoker? Maybe not the most important benefit if it does, but it's still some nice utility.
The only thing to know about Glide is that it doesn't work while snared, so you can't actually double jump while you are getting trained by melee or even snared by ranged. Pretty big bummer, I was disappointed on my Evoker when I found that out as well.
I al always for the addition of new races for other classes. There needs to be balance though. The fact that tail swipe and wing buffet are still racial options for other classes outside of evoker is alarmingly OP. They should give those to evoker only and trade them for deep breathe. You get your mobility with deep breathe and it adds to the immersion of playing a dragon while doing some AOE dmg... and breathe fire because drgons.
deep breath is literally a burst cool down, would make no sense to give it to other classes and can be talented to aoe stun, that would be way more op lol.
To be fair void elf is stronger than drakthyr just because of the fact void elf mobility does not force you to stop casting, since you can go though some mechanics and cast while teleport is out. Delayed casting is always gonna be secretly stronger than whatever drakthyr has. 3 min version light pushback is hard to abuse when most melee classes already easily catch classes with more pushback
@@tekamer6566 I played evok in DF and hate the dragon form, but to play devil's advocate, void elf racial requires a GCD (glide does not), is on a 3 min CD, and it requires setup vs drac glide being off GCD, spammable, and you can use it to cheese knockbacks
When it comes out defo gonna make a dracthyr disc priest, preservation evoker is my favourite spec in the game and i was thinking out of trying out another healer but these animations look sick
Probably the most powerful thing is... Double jump. On my worgen druid while in cat form I pop DarkFlight (worgen racial) while in cat form... The Evoker in my group could keep up even catch up to my run speed while simply double jumping. I can see this being very powerful for caster classes like Warlocks probably going to benefit the most but probably all caster classes. Need to get out of a floor mc nasty? Double Jump!
From a PvP perspective every caster class that can play this should unless changed. Two mini cc and increased mobility is broken. If they took away the mobility I still think they’d be best for PvP but not as bad.
Blizz should nuke down PvP. Too many times have there been cool stuff that have been obliterated because of "this will ruin pvp". There's a war mode for it so if it really is a problem for pvp, make these abilities not available in war mode and arenas and we're done.
@@joebenzz this game is a snooze fest without PvP. PvE is for kids and old heads. Every time PvP is bad the game dies because after you’ve killed the same dragon and done the same mechanics 5 times it’s a bore.
@@bscheur7412 I'm one of those weirdos who like to have characters the same gender as irl, so that's a little problem 😂 but might just have to get over it cos that little fly hop is so useful
If you stay in human visage for in battle then use a racial like the knock back do you go into dragon form? If so does it automatically switch back? Hate that dragon form but I would rock female human always then
The Purple Wings look very good, but i dont like the models, to big of a fan on Troll looks. Also I hope now that we move towards more customizable stuff, that we will get more Shadowforms, a Fel Green One would be so dope. Just swap out Void for Chaos :) Make Sargeras my leader i guess^^
I'm excited about this but I really don't believe that they will left the double jump on priests... Seeing how stuck in their ways they have been these last years over our mobility saying that the feathers were fine but idk I hope I'll be wrong
Loved the vid - but saddened by the conclusion even if I agree with it. Wiry emo dragon people will blow every other race out of the water for mobility, cc and damage. This is just a personal opinion and there is no right answer, but I've despised everything about dracthyr from before the time that DF came out and I still do. From the wiry, emo, meth-addict look, to the overloading of yet more healers and dps into a game that is desperately screaming for more tanks, to a name that was clearly coined by the same person who came up with "Venthyr" so I have to be reminded of that disaster shadowlands every time I see one, I find it sad that so many people will be race changing to wiry emo dragon people. Big win for blizz pocketing all that sweet cash for the race changes, but I feel the homogeneity brought on by dracthyr being bis for stats, cc, and mobility will reduce variety and flavor in the game. I won't be race changing, but a lot of mansions in Irvine and Seattle will be purchased off the revenue from people who do. Well played, Microsoft/Blizz, well played.
Good - no hate to those who like wiry emo dragon people, it’s just not my flavor - but two AOE stops was better than arcane torrent in legion so I’m glad they saw the lack of balance there (and passed up some of that sweet race change cash in the process)
They should remove the 2 cc abilities from racials and instead give us the dash that Evoker has and make that a racial. That is true mobility. The glide is a meme.
Even more micro cc for Pvp.. holy fck it is already annoying when a warrior doesnt let you cast and now they have 2 more micro ccs for that :( but still nice for PVE though as one of the most immobile speccs as SP
Can we as a community please beg blizzard to give us the option of using past visual iterations of shadowform? I cant stand the current one nor do i like the glyph of shadow option, i think both sre ugly and ive had an issue with this for many years. The thing id armor has starting looking so much better lately so its finsllt starting to annoying me out current shadowform cusgonixation is lacking especially compsred to druids. (Hell egen shamans get a new version of ascendence)
@@Slushybear405 It's cause so far only drakthyr are evokers and they have few spells that just force shift them. (unless that was changed at some point idk)
Paying for a Race swap to put a bandaid on a GLARING issue Priest has had for the last 5 expansions is not a solution. Its an insult.... Do Better Blizzard.
Saying priest has mobility issues is laughable. Get over yourself with this nonsense. Feather, Body and soul, oh you jumped down and glided???ever heard of levitate my guy. Priest has great mobility.
Lol. Lmao, even. Mobility isn't just moving fast ya dolt. Lock has access to a permanent 50% movement speed increase and destro is still the least mobile spec in the game
There was a recent change where Tail Swipe is no longer available to non-evoker Dracthyr. Just an FYI!
That sucks
@@cryptocryptidNo, let the real Dracthyrs keep the pride and not allow these fake dragons to take what we rightfully own.
@@Enchantix00Sasori Cringe
@@tvcak3s414 Cringe is it to give non-Evoker Dracthyrs, which Blizz just implemented for no reason, better visuals and talents than the original Dracthyrs.
@@Enchantix00Sasori Super cringe, stop
One thing to add not combat wise! the “blood elf” visage form for dracthyrs have more customization options and hairstyles! thats one of the best things for me
@@kanor13 nope :( only blood elf
And they don’t have those stupid eyebrows and ears sticking out all the time.
Not to mention actually having a white beard as a priest is nice
Every meta m+ class will be forced to race swap to dracthyr for title pushing. This utility would be insane on multiple people. And keep in mind that tail swipe is a knock-up and doesn't make a dr.
I have to say right now when it comes mobility I still value my Goblin Jump higher than the "Double Jump / Glide" From Dractyhr.
It saved me often in Raid when I get a mechanic and have to "move" fast to a specific place or during knockbacks etc.
I agree about needing to move quickly that goblin jump is superior, but for knockbacks, glide is much better. All you have to do is hit spacebar twice and you completely negate all knockbacks with no CD.
For a lot of things you’d be surprised at how snappy glide can be. Tbh it feels like it could easily replace it
I was really considering going goblin priest this expansion because of this. Goblin jump is so damn useful compared to the void elf teleport. The teleport is annoying to use, and twice the cooldown, for some unknown reason. It did have some useful scenarios like teleporting through the walls on the Echo of Neltharion fight, but still.
Now i'm kind of considering Drakthyr instead because of the visuals, but 20 euro for a race change is a bit much. Maybe if it's on sale at some point..
That DA wing detail might show Blizz is back on track.
DA just like mind spike shouldn't even exist at all, they can suck it.
The same effect will happen when you're using Soar as well (flying as a Dracthyr!). Videos on WoWhead
THEY SHOULD MAKE VOID FORM LOOK LIKE SARKARETH LAST PHASE
Why would they? Blizzard already dislikes Evokers. It would be just even more obvious if they made a class that is new to Dracthyrs get MORE visuals than the real dragons.
@@Enchantix00Sasori what do you mean bro
Evokers literally got all the actual dragon abilities.
Having sarkareth form for shadow priest wouldn’t be anything out of line.
We already have paladins unique effects for blood elf’s
Shamans unique totems
You gotta be really fukin stupid if you think giving a sarkareth form to shadow priests
Would mean evokers THE LITERAL CLASS THAT HAS THE MOST EFFECTS IN THE GAME be somehow less exiting
Love the new intro, a refresh was really needed!
Glad you like it!
new intro!
I seriously considered Dracthyr for my Hunter main, but like you said, now they changed most of the things in this video for non-Evoker classes, because their racials were too overpowered. 🙂 Tail Swipe is removed, and the 50% mobility increase when double jumping is gone.
So essentially, Dracthyr still have immunity to knockbacks (if you double jump), can glide (with reduced speed), and has the Wing Buffet racial (on a 3min CD).
And the Visage form is also still active when using Wing Buffet, and won't swap you into Dragon form. So it is only when using Soar you swap.
The goat pumping content, i think for once, i wont play shadow for an expansion, the first time in probably over 12 years and then i watch you an still get the urge to return the to shadow. Man twiniking at the moment and seeing arcane damage or monks and dhs damage and how easy they feel i really wonder why i bother with shadow. But i remember once i see how cool the shadow scene is, even if the spec isnt peak and the current rotation is broing as fk and doest really play well, watching your vids makes it fun again
Does the visage form still boost out of combat health regen for the party like it does on evoker? Maybe not the most important benefit if it does, but it's still some nice utility.
It does yes! You do have to be in Visage form (non-dragon) but it does work out of combat on Priest
Would love to be able to change to the old shadowform. as a glyph, or with a barber. would love it
My priest literally used to be named shadowdragon.
10 years later I can finally realize my dream of being as edgy as possible
As someone that consistently gets 2100 in PvP, AoTC, and KSM. I will 100% be going Scalie for a tad of mobility and Mastery.
The only thing to know about Glide is that it doesn't work while snared, so you can't actually double jump while you are getting trained by melee or even snared by ranged. Pretty big bummer, I was disappointed on my Evoker when I found that out as well.
I al always for the addition of new races for other classes. There needs to be balance though. The fact that tail swipe and wing buffet are still racial options for other classes outside of evoker is alarmingly OP. They should give those to evoker only and trade them for deep breathe. You get your mobility with deep breathe and it adds to the immersion of playing a dragon while doing some AOE dmg... and breathe fire because drgons.
deep breath is literally a burst cool down, would make no sense to give it to other classes and can be talented to aoe stun, that would be way more op lol.
@@AllGodsDue dragons breathe fire. Blizz needs to figure it out.
Let's be real, considering current expansions/saga if you are not playing Void Elf Shadow Priest you are doing it wrong
And the void elf racial I’ve been using as a make shift blink for mechanics has been really nice
Roflmao
To be fair void elf is stronger than drakthyr just because of the fact void elf mobility does not force you to stop casting, since you can go though some mechanics and cast while teleport is out.
Delayed casting is always gonna be secretly stronger than whatever drakthyr has.
3 min version light pushback is hard to abuse when most melee classes already easily catch classes with more pushback
@@tekamer6566 I played evok in DF and hate the dragon form, but to play devil's advocate, void elf racial requires a GCD (glide does not), is on a 3 min CD, and it requires setup vs drac glide being off GCD, spammable, and you can use it to cheese knockbacks
For the horde >.
11.05 IS the anniversary patch.
When it comes out defo gonna make a dracthyr disc priest, preservation evoker is my favourite spec in the game and i was thinking out of trying out another healer but these animations look sick
Pretty sure this is in fact tied with the anniversary event.
If Scalecommander Sarkareth could have seen your thumbnail he would‘ve gotten real jealous.
Probably the most powerful thing is... Double jump. On my worgen druid while in cat form I pop DarkFlight (worgen racial) while in cat form... The Evoker in my group could keep up even catch up to my run speed while simply double jumping. I can see this being very powerful for caster classes like Warlocks probably going to benefit the most but probably all caster classes.
Need to get out of a floor mc nasty? Double Jump!
Great summary mate, thanks - think ill probably switch for glide alone
I'm making a priest my main for tww as a healer. But now I will be a Dracthyr priest! :D
I’ll be hard pressed to ever be convinced my bull rush racial isn’t bis. It’s goblin jump with a stun.
From a PvP perspective every caster class that can play this should unless changed. Two mini cc and increased mobility is broken. If they took away the mobility I still think they’d be best for PvP but not as bad.
Blizz should nuke down PvP. Too many times have there been cool stuff that have been obliterated because of "this will ruin pvp". There's a war mode for it so if it really is a problem for pvp, make these abilities not available in war mode and arenas and we're done.
@@joebenzz this game is a snooze fest without PvP. PvE is for kids and old heads. Every time PvP is bad the game dies because after you’ve killed the same dragon and done the same mechanics 5 times it’s a bore.
i would race change from forsaken to dracthyr if we can use a race thats not elf for the visage, just dun like the elf animation
The female visage form is a human, not an elf
@@bscheur7412 I'm one of those weirdos who like to have characters the same gender as irl, so that's a little problem 😂 but might just have to get over it cos that little fly hop is so useful
wondering how they look in the all-gold of holy priest after seeing those wings...
Do you know if mind flay will come out of their mouths, like disintegrate?
pretty sure soar is faster flying than you can get mounted as well.
I play goblin for the mobility so Dracthyr is looking good
Publik: makes a video discussing dracthyr priest
Me an intellectual: time to race swap to mechagnome
LOL
I have never heard that word visage - pronounced that way ever lol.
I might be cooked
I just wished they toned down the shadowform so i can actually see my tmog. I'm thinking about a race change solely because of the wings effect.
Fwiw in this video I’m using glyph of shadowy friends which is a bit darker than other options
hey yo, what happened to the intro song? the hype music gone forever?
For now…
@@Publikwow Hope it comes back. The last one was a bop
that wing effect makes me want to make a SP lol i have been slowly leveling one off and on
As long as i can stay in the humanoid form in fight than I love it and will definitely role it. :)
Well DA Wings, but what about void form and its tentacles, will that visuals work?
Yes those work just the same!
If you stay in human visage for in battle then use a racial like the knock back do you go into dragon form? If so does it automatically switch back? Hate that dragon form but I would rock female human always then
You stay in visage form!
@@Publikwow this might be the best class for caster for pvp now
Will probably change to Dracthyr when i main priest again. i do not like how shadow play right now
How Glide works with levitate?
The Purple Wings look very good, but i dont like the models, to big of a fan on Troll looks. Also I hope now that we move towards more customizable stuff, that we will get more Shadowforms, a Fel Green One would be so dope. Just swap out Void for Chaos :) Make Sargeras my leader i guess^^
I'm excited about this but I really don't believe that they will left the double jump on priests... Seeing how stuck in their ways they have been these last years over our mobility saying that the feathers were fine but idk I hope I'll be wrong
But the double-jump is a Dracthyr racial-- how could they remove it ?
@@dominotrixfairly easily?
Is this a genuine question? Lol
Nothing is stopping Blizzard from doing whatever they want.
@@dominotrix they could make it 15 sec cooldown ,like they have 3 min for swipe and buffet
i'm excited to be a dragon man. i'm tired of being ringed out like this is soul calibur 2
What happens with tail swipe if we are on visage? We turn into dragon also?
Nope! You stay in visage form
@@PublikwowThen ill go for it
Loved the vid - but saddened by the conclusion even if I agree with it. Wiry emo dragon people will blow every other race out of the water for mobility, cc and damage. This is just a personal opinion and there is no right answer, but I've despised everything about dracthyr from before the time that DF came out and I still do. From the wiry, emo, meth-addict look, to the overloading of yet more healers and dps into a game that is desperately screaming for more tanks, to a name that was clearly coined by the same person who came up with "Venthyr" so I have to be reminded of that disaster shadowlands every time I see one, I find it sad that so many people will be race changing to wiry emo dragon people. Big win for blizz pocketing all that sweet cash for the race changes, but I feel the homogeneity brought on by dracthyr being bis for stats, cc, and mobility will reduce variety and flavor in the game. I won't be race changing, but a lot of mansions in Irvine and Seattle will be purchased off the revenue from people who do. Well played, Microsoft/Blizz, well played.
FWIW this was nerfed, went over it in a newer vid
Good - no hate to those who like wiry emo dragon people, it’s just not my flavor - but two AOE stops was better than arcane torrent in legion so I’m glad they saw the lack of balance there (and passed up some of that sweet race change cash in the process)
Blizz can take dracthyr and shove it
So instead of a rework. We get to be dracthyr....
It was a waste devs left suramar full of mobs and not as an actual city
Howd you get on the PTR?
Use the 11.0.0 PTR!
I love spatial rift too much. 😂
How come I don’t have access to this on PTR?
Make sure you are on the 11.0.0 PTR!
@@Publikwow thank you!!!!
The lizard looks ugly 😢
They should remove the 2 cc abilities from racials and instead give us the dash that Evoker has and make that a racial. That is true mobility. The glide is a meme.
not mechagnome so sad day
Undead isn't even on the lost. Is it that bad haha. My poor spriest.
Thought the Same 😂😂😂
It is there you just have to scroll down a lot unfortunately
How is he testing this? PTR is still at 11.0.2
Use the 11.0.0 ptr that one is updated
Def gonna race change😁
this is going to ruin the game, especially pvp........blizz really doesnt listen to fans.
Even more micro cc for Pvp.. holy fck it is already annoying when a warrior doesnt let you cast and now they have 2 more micro ccs for that :( but still nice for PVE though as one of the most immobile speccs as SP
But my goblin jump :(
elves are more beautiful than goblins
Can we as a community please beg blizzard to give us the option of using past visual iterations of shadowform?
I cant stand the current one nor do i like the glyph of shadow option, i think both sre ugly and ive had an issue with this for many years.
The thing id armor has starting looking so much better lately so its finsllt starting to annoying me out current shadowform cusgonixation is lacking especially compsred to druids. (Hell egen shamans get a new version of ascendence)
nothing could make me play dractyr they have near to 0 transmog never
you can stay 100% in visage form.
@@rbndmmrthis - some people just don’t read
@@Slushybear405 It's cause so far only drakthyr are evokers and they have few spells that just force shift them. (unless that was changed at some point idk)
@@rbndmmr na not in combat
@@Bonebounder93yes in combat, for non-evoker drakthyr
Hi Pestily
Have you ever seen a shadow priest use fear in m+ ? I haven't so I don't see how dractyr will change anything 😂
True
Paying for a Race swap to put a bandaid on a GLARING issue Priest has had for the last 5 expansions is not a solution. Its an insult.... Do Better Blizzard.
Yeah this mobility is going to be an issue in rated Arenas... damn
This video came with zero information. Congrats on wasting your time.
What kind of things were you looking for?
Saying priest has mobility issues is laughable. Get over yourself with this nonsense. Feather, Body and soul, oh you jumped down and glided???ever heard of levitate my guy. Priest has great mobility.
Levitate doesn't grant any bonus speed. Glide gives 50%.
Lol. Lmao, even. Mobility isn't just moving fast ya dolt. Lock has access to a permanent 50% movement speed increase and destro is still the least mobile spec in the game