True, but the side quests will still be there, and the markers will still show up when you are in their area. I would like to have the option, similar to the MSQ, to have the side quests skipped after getting the sojourner achievement for a zone.
Something to remember about Shadowlands' unprecedented launch was that it was during the beginning of Covid lockdown. Everyone was home with nothing to do. It lined up perfectly. My experience with TWW so far has been extremely positive so I hope people give WoW a shot again if they've been on the fence.
The lock-down is what brought me back to wow after over a decade away. I was surprised not only by the fact that so many people were still playing, but there was a new xpac coming out.
exactly, its the same thing with the streaming numbers. If you look at twitch as whole its been in decline because it got basically massive boost from covid that was never going to stay.
Context: super casual player these days, bought Epic edition for for the goodies and sub time not for EA (but obviously ended up with it) Overall having an absolute blast out there exploring the world. I do love the world building and story telling thus far, and the zones are gorgeous, but I'm really just not a fan of the underground focus and everything having a ceiling and I get frustrated at times just flying around and hitting dead ends on the map I can't easily circumvent. EA felt fine, for me, but that's because I took my main out questing a few hours each day. End of the EA I was still only lvl 78 and had only just finished the MSQ, a handful of delves, and all the leveling follower dungeons. Gathered a little, but didn't touch professions. Within the first week I did finish up to 80 and get pathfinder, easier than ever. Nobody is ever going to notice I started "early" because my pace is so slow. My plan is to finish all quests on my main, do all heroics when they launch, and go through LFR and try out story mode. Then I'll pick up a couple of alts, since I like to have a character for each role (instead of relying on a single hybrid to do everything). tl;dr - between the world building, questing, warbands, delves, follower dungeons, and what feels like a lot of lvl 80 outdoor stuff to do... I feel like this launch has been fantastic, even with a few bugs, overall it's felt totally fine. I know other playstyles have different perspectives than mine and may not be having as much fun, but I certainly am.
I bought the one with early access and had so much work I got to try it out the first time only three days after the actual launch.I wish I was a kid again.
Haha fr tho. I even took time off work for the EA, but ended up using most of it to catch up on errands and do irl stuff with friends. Then I heard about all the drama and it made me not want to even bother. Currently I’m just doing old wow stuff with a friend. I’ll see Khaz Algar maybe sometime this week - it would be a shame to miss out on the Darkmoon bonuses.
For quests that are already WARBOUND COMPLETED, there's a legend in your map that will enable/disable showing quests any of your warbound characters have already completed. Makes it so nice. Make him see this or anyone else pls
@@KNByam PVE is especially a nightmare with people who take a bideo game so seriously. You can like WoW and not like playing with children with zero patience. "iTs aN mmOOOOOO". Yeah an mmo where already 90% of activities can be done solo, once its 100%, minus pvp, it will be the perfect RPG hands down. People like myself playing since i was 12, 18 years ago, you already know who you're dealing with half the time. Other 12 year olds.
@@KNByamhave you seen the way random people behave? If I could have an MMO where it’s just me and my guild mates in our own instances of the entire world, I would be in heaven. ‘Massively’ multiplayer can F right off into the sunset.
@@KNByam the toxicity is real, my guy. hard to want to push "harder" content when people make it virtually unbearable. let me stress that i'm not saying everybody does it, but there are enough of THOSE type of players that do. so people like us, we're like "yeah no, by all means have fun, we'll stick to Single Player." it's sad because TWW has M+ in a more inviting and accessible difficulty curve that many of us want to try it, yet it's the players that create the divide.
@@UltimateGamerCC idk man , people who want to play solo as you said can just do it no matter what. Don't make others like us wait for damn weeks in order to have anything to do in the game. I swear this might one of the worst xpac launch for me. The "best" thing to do is to log off almost, since we all know our gear will get remplace in 2 weeks and also there's nothing meaningful to do. I don't care about Ilvl but god please, make something interesting... HC dungeon are damn easy to the point they don't look any different from normal mode.. Even levelling is damn fast. I say that while having done all quest too. I want to play the game but there's nothing to do.
I will NEVER be in favor of paying for early access. Not ever. It creates a divide in the community that already has enough reasons to divide itself...casuals vs hardcore, pvp vs pve, aotc vs mythic raiders, solo vs group content players, speed levellers vs questers. Now they've created a have vs have-nots divide. It's not quite pay-to-win but it's toes are right on that line and the toenails need trimming.
I think you are seeing divisions where none exist. If you took any of those play styles you mentioned and forced it on all WoW players while eliminating all the other options, there would simply be a huge decline in people playing WoW.
My company sent me on a cooperate training trip to Dallas from cali the week of the launch. Flew home 3 hours prior to release, hit the weed shop and took the weekend off playing the new xpac It worked out perfect for me, and As a OOG Scarab Lord who has launched just about every expansion. Sure i miss the crazy of real launches. but it was 100% worth the extra money to fit the launch around life, and glad i bought it !
I am having a ton of fun with it, the side quests are great and the story overall is pretty good. They are developing characters well and the characters feel more real, outside of Alleria until the end of the startup campaign where she becomes a better characters. From the economy sort of thing, the big surprise was Bismuth maintaining in value eventhough it is the most common ore. That part has been wild.
I hate the double launch. I was avoiding chat and Discord with most guildies trying to avoid spoilers. By the time I came through to discover everything, everyone else seemed bored of it.
I bought the epic edition, but for the cosmetics, not the EA. The entire double launch, the fighting, the exploits, it all soured the game so much for me that even today I still haven’t stepped foot in Khaz Algar. Just doing old stuff. It helps that my main wow friend hasn’t even bought the expansion yet, so I just do stuff with them lol.
This was the best launch I've ever experienced. The early access allowed me to take my time getting things done without feeling pressured. Not only that, but there is so little "mandatory" stuff to do even during the first two full weeks, so I've had plenty of time to work on professions and what not. I love this pacing so far. No more rush rush rush.
I have a feeling that the race to world first will involve certain guild members sniping every realm for the cheapest mats in a more efficient way than ever before thanks to the war and bank.
This was my first time being able to take advantage of Early Access and overall, I enjoyed it. I was actually able to play for a decent amount of time. Even when it launched properly, everyone was spaced apart enough that I was still able to play with only one disconnect.
It was horrendous divided the community, spoilers everywhere, not a shared experience for the guild, cheap cash grab at the expense of community. The chatGPT voice quest text add-on is incredible tho.
The real Spoilers were all the Beta hype videos. I stopped watching it until I could actually play the expansion. Early access was good because it split up the mobs of people trying to level. I'm not a hard-core player. I can only be on for short periods of time. So doing early access was only keeping up with those that played official release. I can't spend much time online so at least I don't feel behind yet in this expansion. So much less waiting and wasting time.😊
I just hit 80 (on Saturday) on my main (frost mage) who was literally the first character I created back in Vanilla. I did the entire campaign (except the last part which I think will be available Tuesday) and all of the side stories (got Loremaster achievement). I was going to just split the side stories between my first four characters (out of 30 I intend to level) but I changed my mind and I think it was definitely the right move. Getting to 80 took a bit longer because I was getting a lot less xp in the Ringing Deeps because I had somewhat outleveled the zone but it was worth it. It was a really nice story and worth the time investment. I did the same thing in Dragonflight.
I bought early access because I wasn't going to be available the official launch week and I thought it was really fun to level quickly. I've been leveling some alts and I don't really notice the leveling changes with the pre-patch gear. It just makes it easier to separate the zones to one character each zone instead of doing 1+ per character. I've been enjoying the changes and overall expansion with the classes I've been playing.
I had early access, and I spent most of my time just questing and immersing myself in the story. So far, I've been having an absolute blast with the War Within. Members of my guild and I did do a group delve and several follower dungeons. It was an enjoyable experience. Even to the point of ragging on Captain Gerrick for losing aggro. 😂
I collect the boxes (I have all from new except Vanilla - I waited too long!) so got early access. I'm having the most fun since WoD. Great stories and good leveling. Having a blast - I might even re-sub! 🙂
I have a job, so I don't have a lot of hours to play. I skipped Early Access, and this is the first time I have 3 level 80s in the space of one reset. The whole drama about levelling after Early Access was definitely overblown.
This has been a good release. The xpac seems to be quite good. I am interested the higher level delves and low end M+. I didn't mind the early access. Still making gold and having fun. The restrictions on what the EA people could do was probably just about right. Didn't let them get too much of an edge. Also, leveling is still easy AF
I was very happy with the "early" access. The game was stable enough to play and enjoy within the first week for once, never have had that, the gold makers are always gonna have their way, pre season gearing doesn't matter as much and not for long, spoilers for story stuff has always been rampant at all times due to how WoW lets folks beta test. I was hearing opening spoilers for TWW months ago. I wouldn't complain if they did this going forward. Only gripe is that folks like me who did partake in early access shouldn't be elitists about it and it was a funny but dick move to kill everyone who wanted to play launch day in warmode.
A friend and I didn't experience too many problems during early launch. For the most part it went pretty smoothly. The music is so good! I assumed the AH slowdown was from TSM users trying using sniper and cancel scans to stay on top of the market.
Well broken down. So far, I am having a good time. the delves are a help to little ole me (don't do dungeons) to re-wet my feet in soft of dungeons. The dungeons that fill out your roster so that it can be done surprised me. I played as a druid tank (bear), i was surprised, the healer picked up the healing when I was low. Remember, this only refers to stuff that happened to me. Normally I avoid dungeons as I am usually kicked out. If I make it in to the dungeon, the healer normally announces that if you can heal yourself, do so...their focus will be on the tank. That is all I will say on that. The best part of the pre-release was the memories...it was good dying once more for the Epic bosses. To sum up, I am hoping it will remain this....acceptable for all 3 parts of this. Now question.....with Xalath floating around...was she a former Priest....Shadow Priest that is? Have a good one everyone.
I did early access but only farmed gold to make back the money I paid for it through buying game time. I enjoy gold farming, so it was worth it for me! Even days after real release though gold farming is still quite good so it wasn't necessary, it didn't give a leg-up on gear, and it made leveling easier for everyone being less crowded. In my opinion, having dual release worked well as long as they keep the limitations they had.
I was not going to entertain EA,u had bought the middle pack.But FOMO started to hit me as launch day creeped up,so i bought the upgrade with in-game gold.Glad I did! Had so much fun levelling at my own pace
So far the best bug by far is the missing ship in Dawnbreaker. I watched 3 of my guildies run up the stairs and disappear so I followed figuring there is a portal or something only to plummet to my death hand in hand with the hunter.
I actually really like early access though I don’t have the same new expansion launch experience. Dragonflight was the first season 1 I ever played, I always bought the new expansion a while after it launched before that and only started group content in shadowlands season 3. I’m also one of the people who finally had enough fun money to get the epic edition and just saw the early access as a bonus. It took a bit before I realized how amazing the beta access is too because it was my first time for that as well! I love how smooth the early access was though most of my guild group got disconnected during official release which ruined that one more for me. I don’t see how people struggling to log on and just going to bed is a good bonding experience personally.
This is the first time I have ever had early access to a game. In fact I didn't even realize I had it because I just bought the collector's edition like I always do and didn't realize it had EA until a friend told me. I won't lie, it was nice. The zones were rather quiet and I felt like I could go through them at a slower pace without having to deal with .so. many people at quest givers or in areas where I would have had to wait on mobs to spawn to complete said quests. I wouldn't pay for the EA for just EA sake though, but if it comes with the collector's editions that I will buy anyways, then.. eh?!
I did not pay for early access, but I did beat the leveling difficulty adjustment with my first character. However, the timing of the difficulty change was poor planned, and left a negative tone. All that being said, I have really enjoyed the content and flow of the game play. Delves have been a lot of fun and a welcome new feature.
To be fair it’s still not “difficult” to level. It was pretty boring leveling during EA on my geared dragonflight toon. Quite literally one shotting every non elite
I just wish there was a bit more to the campaign quests in Hallowfall. Dorn and the Ringing Deeps were cool and all but Hallowfall is beautiful and interesting and it kinda felt like you were just passing through on your way to deal with the Nerubians.
Everyone without Early Access was so disappointed the first launch went off almost flawlessly. So many angry comments insisting it was going to be a disaster.
Worst launch of an expansion so far for me. Came back to the game, played through Remix, had a great time, the prepatch was a great catchup, they built up a lot of good will there, and then they just completely ruined it with the early access thing. It wasn't on my radar at all, I didn't expect the way it would kill the hype and split the community but it felt truly awful. As others have mentioned, it was not early access, it was late access for anyone that didn't buy the most expensive option. I wouldn't have had a single problem with this if they just handed out "early" access to everyone that pre-ordered, that would have been a much more social and reasonable thing to do. But now I'm apparently one of the "poors"' because I decided to "only" spend 70 bucks on the expansion that I already pay a sub for. Those were a long 4 days, and it didn't help that I was absolutely bombarded with advertisements and social media post. They even went so far as to post spoilers on their official channels, truly incomprehensible. Then when us plebians finally got to play they decided to nerf the leveling experience. After all the streamers and whatnot had their easy ride to the top leveling a dozen alts with easy, we get to punch mud. It doesn't feel great.
I also think the whole "but it was such a smooth launch" was a bullshit excuse. Yeah of course it's going to be smooth if half the playerbase is missing. But there's probably other ways to go about this and ensure a stable launch other than funneling everyone into buying the epic edition, it's just a shameless cash grab. Furthermore, going back to previous expansions, I really can't remember the last time I was around for a launch where it wasn't smooth sailing already, that just shouldn't be a problem in 2024, they have all the experience and know-how they could possibly want and need to avoid messing that up on a technical level.
Tbh I don't think there should be a divide between people over this. Some folks had the disposable income to spend on the early access some didn't. This is the first time I've ever bought above the base level of the game as I really wanted the mount and used the shit out of it. Having early access hasn't made me actually or feel ahead of anyone else as I only have a certain amount of time to play and it being the bank holiday weekend in the UK allowed me a little more play time. I'm just casually (filthy or not😂) working my way through the side quests and soaking it all in. I've never understood the need to be first or maxed in x amount of hours as to me that's wasted money. Especially when certain things weren't available in early access and still aren't now. No new race to play as of this week so would o do it again? Probably not but definitely not because of any "community divides". I look at it like the trading post each month. "Do I want it enough to spend my funds?"
Not getting to level with my friends and experience everything together sucked. Probably the worst launch in terms of excitement for me. I’m not mad at the people that bought early access. I’m just mad it was only on the highest tier of preorders. Blizz forced the choice.
I had that rollback glitch, too, I thought it was just me and that I'd done one of those dc's where you don't realize you are dc'd lol. My thoughts of launch: We bought the early access so that we could feel relaxed leveling instead feeling like we had to rush to max level for raiding. Our guild min/maxers also joined early access, but while they were leveling as many alts as they could to give them the most options for raid and M+. I was happy having all the time to read all the quests and only get my main dps and main healer leveled. The atmosphere was wonderful. I'd do it again if Blizz decides to keep early access. I wasn't thrilled with another dwarf race, but I enjoyed them more than I thought I would after doing most of the quest lines. I love the delves and the ability to learn a dungeon as a tank in the follower dungeons. I didn't notice any of the glitches with the economy that you mentioned because I have just been collecting and leveling professions, and I'm not overly concerned with gold. I chose to level my main by doing the storyline, and I've started each new alt in a different region for all the side quests. Overall, I am enjoying this launch and have had a lot of fun. Side note: there is a toggle on your world map to turn off quests your warband has done if you don't want to see them!
yeah i did everything on my main character... having quests there that are "warbound done" would trigger me way too much. I noticed it before release with the pre-event and im like nope, not having that
I wasn't financially able to participate in early access and it really felt like a punishment to me. But aside from that it's been good as a full time dad who doesn't have a lot of time to dump into the expansion. I'm only a few levels into the first zone, but it's been a good experience and I am enjoying the side stories
I think two launch's as been Great!! the ones who started early got easy and unpopulated introduction was Nice, Rather than the All at once Rush that lags out the Quests and servers.
Its the smoothest launch ive ever had. Only 1-2 quests i really had to wait for respawns on, the rest went really smooth. So i think they need to do it like this on every launch from now on. Spending 20 min to finish a quest due to a million players tagging the same mobs is not fun. Having so many players that servers crash is even less fun. We had a few smooth luanches before, but nothing like this
I don't trust youtube and streaming metrics as measures of wow health because I know myself and others have mostly unplugged from the wow "content" cycles seeing them as bad for the game and community, with exceptions.
I did not like the early launch, like others have said, it divided the community into haves and have nots that had nothing to do with in game skill or desires, but by whether you could pay. In a time where class divide is already pressing us down, getting it in my escape is just peak capitalist hellscape. I hated it.
Homie! Go into your map and unchecked warband completed quests. All the markers will disappear from your map and in person warband completed quests will have faded markers.
I got beta for warlords of drain war and everyone after that. I got it almost instantly as soon as I applied. This time, I did not get beta at all. Makes one wonder if I didn't get it because they were waiting for me to pay
I'm pretty sure that more than half the playerbase bought early access, which means that Blizzard has successfully made an expansion price of $90. Crazy. Disgraceful.
those side quests show up as a different mark on my alts, if completed already. I did all but one storyline in the starting area on my main to hit level 80 as completing the main storyline. I then did an alt in each one of the zones to complete all the side quests in each zone. However, there are some bugged quests that I cannot complete yet. But those ! marks show up faded for the ones I have already done.
I heard you can't lock XP at 70. I hope they change that back since I wanted to keep my rogue locked at dragon flight since I never finished all quests and don't want it any more trivial than it already is. I like to have a new character each expansion
i'm gonna call it like i see it, this expansion ROCKS so far. i hope that it can maintain that momentum all the way through the rest of the expansion and ultimately the Saga. also not surprised that Asmon can barely manage to play 6 hours nowadays, he is the most lethargic of streamers.
I haven’t even visited the AH since early access. And no issues with professions because it wasn’t really my focus. But the cloth drops just for tailors means I am having to grab loot fast in dungeons instead of just ‘leaving it behind’. One thing that bothered me is the lack of any mention of Dalaran being blown up and the loss of Kadgar.
The early access was a slap in the face to WoW players. Greed that was condoned by the ones who bought it. Wrath was the height of blizzard. Dual zones to level, we get 3 total for this one. They are getting lazy while trying to extract more money.
I have to agree the early access was great , personally i had no problems , just the auction house thing, but i still made a lot of gold, now the price of ore and herb have dropped hard
My losses in this expansion was to craft the new profession bags thinking they were BoE, since u cant craft order then for skinning and realizing they're BoP
I'm loving it; I like it even more than DF. (And I liked DF a lot!) I had a hard time finishing the leveling campaign because I wanted to do more of the other quests, I wanted to do more delves, I wanted to level my crafting and gathering. Early access was nice just to avoid some of the quest-giver-scrum of opening day shenanigans, but otherwise, it doesn't seem to have given my character anything more than a slight boost to fishing? Because I didn't intend it as a strategic element of play. But I'm just a filthy casual, so what do I know? LOL
Great commentary and video! Though I feel you're remiss in not pointing out how HUGE Warbands are. This single feature changes everything about the present and future of WoW, and what Blizzard can do with it. I'm also a little shocked that you ranted about seeing your already completed Warband quests, when you had already made a video about how you could hide those from your map. 🤣
I didn't get the early access. I got two days of playing TWW, then I broke my ankle. I've been able to play here and there, every couple days. I have still not gotten a toon to 80. I realized that after hitting 77 I was no longer getting XP gains. Hopefully I'll get xp again when I log on later.
I am fine with early access, however I can't understand why levelling was nerfed right when "Launch" happened. So, basically, if you pay extra you can, not only, play earlier but also level faster. edit: Why isn't AH working as intended?!
To be fair Blizzard wasn't wrong about how you would just one shot everything from level 70 to 75 The timing wasn't optimal but the nerf itself wasn't unwarranted
5:13 That is why I just do all the zones on my main even if I hit 80 mostly so I can look at the map completed after words lol. I wish you had an option for warband wide questing kind of like bdo account wide questing. I get some like redoing quests but also some do not. I would have loves to do some zones on alts after I hit 80 on my main but my ocd got me wanting a clean map to much.
Tbh I found it all smooth too. No queuing to log in and even tho I was an early access whore I still had a good time on both launch days. Odd weird bugs here and there with only one major one that seemed to change some of my keybinds randomly. That was after the "boss" in the blacksmiths armour chain in Azk. Once I was told to go back to Mereder (sp?) it glitched and wouldn't let me fly and kept turning on auto run. A mess around in my keybinds resetting them seemed to sort it.
I found this to be the worst launch in terms of actual fun and enjoyment, but it was for sure more stable than most. Not having everyone jump into the new expansion at the same time really left a sour taste. The advantage for professions and gold-making was also massive. If they do this delayed launch again, I don't think I will play.
I am loving the expac launch dungeons were a bit cray mostly cus folks were overpowering content at the beginning dps were running off and pulling whole dungeons ... otherwise its been a blast
I was going to pick tWW on clearance (basically because I do not have enough time to play right now, not that I hate it or whatever) and then play it at a slow pace to at least see the story but, after the changes to leveling, I'm thinking in waiting until Midnight and play it for free leveling an alt there.
Early access was great and hope they continue this method. Leveling was smooth and the bugs were very minor to nothing. Great start to the expansion. I hope the haters stay away, I got a good laugh out of the FOMO community complaining. Also as far as I'm concerned Asmon and his groupies can stay gone. WOW is a better place without them.
Splitting up the player base definitely lost Blizz a lot of hype - and also goodwill because it's blatantly anti-consumer. I really hope they don't repeat that again for Midnight.
Actually it was 2 & 1/2 launches since if you participated in the beta that would be a half launch. I didn't do it since after the beta is done it's a wipe and I like the newness of a expansion. I've 15 level 70s, 6 created from MoP, not to mention some lower ones as well, so I have enough to do without messing with the beta.
I don't hold much hope for delves as solo end game content for people playing in quest gear. I tried a level 2 bountiful delve and was flat out wrecked, at lvl 80, ilvi 545. That's level 2, mind you. I was able to complete the same level 1 bountiful quest, and that dropped a piece of gear so below my current ilvl, and it did after a very long time of dungeon level tactical play. Rewards not worth effort; little chance of advancing through to upper levels. level 2, ffs. So, is it solo play for open world folks, or is it something to do on raiding off days? It should be both, of course, but if open world geared folks can only do levels that add no ilvl, then again, it's a slap in the face to the kind of solo players that really do have little end game.
I enjoyed the extra time to read quest texts without being crowded. In fact, my VDH reached 80 last Thursday and I’m still exploring Hallowfall. It was also interesting to find quest givers who were not flagged on the map, some of whom still aren’t. Just… don’t mention delves, ‘k?
11:46 and im sure they were picked cause they payed for launch, ya I wana watch people play content Im banded from cause I didnt pay extra to play it on time.
The staggered launch was awkward and did no favors to the game. The excitement of launch wasn't there between those avoiding spoilers and those not participating and when they did those in early access were done and bored. Heck, hype was so low some our raiders didn't even start playing until later in the week. The expansion is good and didn't deserve to have it's launch ruined by greed. That time with everyone together and excited for launch, even with issues sometimes is still an important event and the staggered launch just ruined it.
My only real issue is that, if you did the pre-patch event on an alt, you lost the option to skip the Dalaran crash intro sequence. While you still have the ability to just port there and do side quests and world quests, it just seems like an oversight. Personally, i think they should have carried forward with the way they did it in DF. I saw some posts where people said you could talk to Jaina or Thrall, the only option either of them had was to watch the video.
@@nzwj maybe my campaign tracking bugged out again I missed another quest. I had that happen in the second area and only found it after about an hour of flying around. Not sure why it didn't show up in the log or on the map. I'll check it out. Ty
I'd say its been a successful launch. Delves I feel are progression for the super super casual, you know like the people who cant even be bothered to do M0s, which is fine. I still see plenty of people online in my guild which for me is great, love seeing people come back. I am not much of a twitch enjoyer myself but I do feel the whole "dual launch" did kind of screw over streamers. You have half of the playerbase mad that there was a launch 3 days before the actual launch and the other half not wanting spoilers.
I think it would have been a miserable experience as a single launch. The servers were barely hanging on as it was, and with an extra 30% of players present they would have crashed far more. Funnelling everyone into a single zone is always awkward. However, if they could fix stability with better sharding, perhaps a single launch would be better just to not see the incessant misery from the community. The guys shouting about "paypigs" the guys shouting back about "peasants and plebs", the people shouting spoilers in yell and say or just bitching out loud about this or that...its the most insufferable ive seen the community in a long time, and I want someone to make a mod that auto-leaves Trade on login, since it doesn't seem to let me leave it and stay gone anymore.
I had to work so early launch was not worth me paying the extra money. Really didn't bother me that I had to wait, and haven't felt the sting of not starting when others did really.
I've had fun, and I think overall the launch went well enough. However, a few really questionable decisions on Blizzard's part has marred the experience for me. First, and I think this deserves it's own video, is the NPC or Patron crafting orders. These are a complete failure for me at this point in the game. I think I could complete maybe 10% of them, and half of those would require me to spend upwards of 50k gold or dump all my knowledge points into something I didn't want to, just to do them. The rewards you get from doing them in no way justifies the cost of making these orders with little to no reagents. This was not what I was expecting, I thought they would actually help me, not taunt me. Second, while the leveling/scaling thing really needed to be corrected, Blizzard's timing could not have been worse. Very poor decision on their part that left a bad taste with a lot of people. Thirdly, while not a conscious decision like the other two, the AH not functioning properly during the first week has been awful. This is something that they really should have tested in beta, or reverted, or something. Not having a working AH during the busiest time of an expansion is inexcusable.
You can turn off warband completed quests in the map filter. It will get rid of the markers on the map for other characters
True, but the side quests will still be there, and the markers will still show up when you are in their area. I would like to have the option, similar to the MSQ, to have the side quests skipped after getting the sojourner achievement for a zone.
Thanks for the info.
yup, which i'm doing that as soon as i finish all the SQs on my main. damn, been off to cook and eat dinner, yet already catching the bug to play.
@@christopherdaffron8115nope, all completed quests vanish from map once you done all of thwm.
Something to remember about Shadowlands' unprecedented launch was that it was during the beginning of Covid lockdown. Everyone was home with nothing to do. It lined up perfectly. My experience with TWW so far has been extremely positive so I hope people give WoW a shot again if they've been on the fence.
The lock-down is what brought me back to wow after over a decade away. I was surprised not only by the fact that so many people were still playing, but there was a new xpac coming out.
exactly, its the same thing with the streaming numbers. If you look at twitch as whole its been in decline because it got basically massive boost from covid that was never going to stay.
Context: super casual player these days, bought Epic edition for for the goodies and sub time not for EA (but obviously ended up with it)
Overall having an absolute blast out there exploring the world. I do love the world building and story telling thus far, and the zones are gorgeous, but I'm really just not a fan of the underground focus and everything having a ceiling and I get frustrated at times just flying around and hitting dead ends on the map I can't easily circumvent.
EA felt fine, for me, but that's because I took my main out questing a few hours each day. End of the EA I was still only lvl 78 and had only just finished the MSQ, a handful of delves, and all the leveling follower dungeons. Gathered a little, but didn't touch professions. Within the first week I did finish up to 80 and get pathfinder, easier than ever. Nobody is ever going to notice I started "early" because my pace is so slow.
My plan is to finish all quests on my main, do all heroics when they launch, and go through LFR and try out story mode. Then I'll pick up a couple of alts, since I like to have a character for each role (instead of relying on a single hybrid to do everything).
tl;dr - between the world building, questing, warbands, delves, follower dungeons, and what feels like a lot of lvl 80 outdoor stuff to do... I feel like this launch has been fantastic, even with a few bugs, overall it's felt totally fine. I know other playstyles have different perspectives than mine and may not be having as much fun, but I certainly am.
I bought the one with early access and had so much work I got to try it out the first time only three days after the actual launch.I wish I was a kid again.
Haha fr tho. I even took time off work for the EA, but ended up using most of it to catch up on errands and do irl stuff with friends. Then I heard about all the drama and it made me not want to even bother. Currently I’m just doing old wow stuff with a friend. I’ll see Khaz Algar maybe sometime this week - it would be a shame to miss out on the Darkmoon bonuses.
For quests that are already WARBOUND COMPLETED, there's a legend in your map that will enable/disable showing quests any of your warbound characters have already completed. Makes it so nice. Make him see this or anyone else pls
The war within bringing solo endgame and warbands makes this hands down the best expansion to me
So you really hate the multiplayer aspect of mmo's?
@@KNByam PVE is especially a nightmare with people who take a bideo game so seriously. You can like WoW and not like playing with children with zero patience. "iTs aN mmOOOOOO". Yeah an mmo where already 90% of activities can be done solo, once its 100%, minus pvp, it will be the perfect RPG hands down. People like myself playing since i was 12, 18 years ago, you already know who you're dealing with half the time. Other 12 year olds.
@@KNByamhave you seen the way random people behave? If I could have an MMO where it’s just me and my guild mates in our own instances of the entire world, I would be in heaven. ‘Massively’ multiplayer can F right off into the sunset.
@@KNByam the toxicity is real, my guy. hard to want to push "harder" content when people make it virtually unbearable. let me stress that i'm not saying everybody does it, but there are enough of THOSE type of players that do. so people like us, we're like "yeah no, by all means have fun, we'll stick to Single Player." it's sad because TWW has M+ in a more inviting and accessible difficulty curve that many of us want to try it, yet it's the players that create the divide.
@@UltimateGamerCC idk man , people who want to play solo as you said can just do it no matter what. Don't make others like us wait for damn weeks in order to have anything to do in the game.
I swear this might one of the worst xpac launch for me. The "best" thing to do is to log off almost, since we all know our gear will get remplace in 2 weeks and also there's nothing meaningful to do.
I don't care about Ilvl but god please, make something interesting... HC dungeon are damn easy to the point they don't look any different from normal mode..
Even levelling is damn fast.
I say that while having done all quest too. I want to play the game but there's nothing to do.
I will NEVER be in favor of paying for early access. Not ever. It creates a divide in the community that already has enough reasons to divide itself...casuals vs hardcore, pvp vs pve, aotc vs mythic raiders, solo vs group content players, speed levellers vs questers. Now they've created a have vs have-nots divide. It's not quite pay-to-win but it's toes are right on that line and the toenails need trimming.
I think you are seeing divisions where none exist. If you took any of those play styles you mentioned and forced it on all WoW players while eliminating all the other options, there would simply be a huge decline in people playing WoW.
in terms of overall playability and stability. TWW is by a long shot the most stable launch.
My company sent me on a cooperate training trip to Dallas from cali the week of the launch. Flew home 3 hours prior to release, hit the weed shop and took the weekend off playing the new xpac It worked out perfect for me, and As a OOG Scarab Lord who has launched just about every expansion. Sure i miss the crazy of real launches. but it was 100% worth the extra money to fit the launch around life, and glad i bought it !
heres a tip for the null stones. just collect wax and buy the wax ore box. u get a null stone while looking for tinder boxes.
personally i've maxed out Aqirite on my main so i no longer get damaged stones upon farming.
I am having a ton of fun with it, the side quests are great and the story overall is pretty good. They are developing characters well and the characters feel more real, outside of Alleria until the end of the startup campaign where she becomes a better characters.
From the economy sort of thing, the big surprise was Bismuth maintaining in value eventhough it is the most common ore. That part has been wild.
I hate the double launch. I was avoiding chat and Discord with most guildies trying to avoid spoilers. By the time I came through to discover everything, everyone else seemed bored of it.
Our guild had strict rules about revealing ‘spoilers’.
Why do u put ur fun on other people's boredom??? Lol
@@Atroll995Guild hype is a part of the fun.
lol shut up. Nobody is bored.
I bought the epic edition, but for the cosmetics, not the EA. The entire double launch, the fighting, the exploits, it all soured the game so much for me that even today I still haven’t stepped foot in Khaz Algar. Just doing old stuff. It helps that my main wow friend hasn’t even bought the expansion yet, so I just do stuff with them lol.
This was the best launch I've ever experienced. The early access allowed me to take my time getting things done without feeling pressured. Not only that, but there is so little "mandatory" stuff to do even during the first two full weeks, so I've had plenty of time to work on professions and what not. I love this pacing so far. No more rush rush rush.
Good overview! Matches my experiences, especially early access.
I have a feeling that the race to world first will involve certain guild members sniping every realm for the cheapest mats in a more efficient way than ever before thanks to the war and bank.
This was my first time being able to take advantage of Early Access and overall, I enjoyed it. I was actually able to play for a decent amount of time. Even when it launched properly, everyone was spaced apart enough that I was still able to play with only one disconnect.
It was horrendous divided the community, spoilers everywhere, not a shared experience for the guild, cheap cash grab at the expense of community.
The chatGPT voice quest text add-on is incredible tho.
We are in a recession companies needs the money.
What is this add-on called?
The real Spoilers were all the Beta hype videos. I stopped watching it until I could actually play the expansion.
Early access was good because it split up the mobs of people trying to level. I'm not a hard-core player. I can only be on for short periods of time. So doing early access was only keeping up with those that played official release. I can't spend much time online so at least I don't feel behind yet in this expansion. So much less waiting and wasting time.😊
@@PatrickF.FitzsimmonsExcept we aren't?
I just hit 80 (on Saturday) on my main (frost mage) who was literally the first character I created back in Vanilla. I did the entire campaign (except the last part which I think will be available Tuesday) and all of the side stories (got Loremaster achievement). I was going to just split the side stories between my first four characters (out of 30 I intend to level) but I changed my mind and I think it was definitely the right move. Getting to 80 took a bit longer because I was getting a lot less xp in the Ringing Deeps because I had somewhat outleveled the zone but it was worth it. It was a really nice story and worth the time investment. I did the same thing in Dragonflight.
I bought early access because I wasn't going to be available the official launch week and I thought it was really fun to level quickly. I've been leveling some alts and I don't really notice the leveling changes with the pre-patch gear. It just makes it easier to separate the zones to one character each zone instead of doing 1+ per character. I've been enjoying the changes and overall expansion with the classes I've been playing.
I had early access, and I spent most of my time just questing and immersing myself in the story. So far, I've been having an absolute blast with the War Within.
Members of my guild and I did do a group delve and several follower dungeons. It was an enjoyable experience. Even to the point of ragging on Captain Gerrick for losing aggro. 😂
I collect the boxes (I have all from new except Vanilla - I waited too long!) so got early access. I'm having the most fun since WoD. Great stories and good leveling. Having a blast - I might even re-sub! 🙂
Early Access really killed the hype. You could see it in the low twitch numbers.
I have a job, so I don't have a lot of hours to play. I skipped Early Access, and this is the first time I have 3 level 80s in the space of one reset.
The whole drama about levelling after Early Access was definitely overblown.
This has been a good release. The xpac seems to be quite good. I am interested the higher level delves and low end M+. I didn't mind the early access. Still making gold and having fun. The restrictions on what the EA people could do was probably just about right. Didn't let them get too much of an edge. Also, leveling is still easy AF
I was very happy with the "early" access. The game was stable enough to play and enjoy within the first week for once, never have had that, the gold makers are always gonna have their way, pre season gearing doesn't matter as much and not for long, spoilers for story stuff has always been rampant at all times due to how WoW lets folks beta test. I was hearing opening spoilers for TWW months ago.
I wouldn't complain if they did this going forward.
Only gripe is that folks like me who did partake in early access shouldn't be elitists about it and it was a funny but dick move to kill everyone who wanted to play launch day in warmode.
A friend and I didn't experience too many problems during early launch. For the most part it went pretty smoothly. The music is so good! I assumed the AH slowdown was from TSM users trying using sniper and cancel scans to stay on top of the market.
Well broken down. So far, I am having a good time. the delves are a help to little ole me (don't do dungeons) to re-wet my feet in soft of dungeons. The dungeons that fill out your roster so that it can be done surprised me. I played as a druid tank (bear), i was surprised, the healer picked up the healing when I was low. Remember, this only refers to stuff that happened to me. Normally I avoid dungeons as I am usually kicked out. If I make it in to the dungeon, the healer normally announces that if you can heal yourself, do so...their focus will be on the tank. That is all I will say on that. The best part of the pre-release was the memories...it was good dying once more for the Epic bosses. To sum up, I am hoping it will remain this....acceptable for all 3 parts of this. Now question.....with Xalath floating around...was she a former Priest....Shadow Priest that is? Have a good one everyone.
I did early access but only farmed gold to make back the money I paid for it through buying game time. I enjoy gold farming, so it was worth it for me! Even days after real release though gold farming is still quite good so it wasn't necessary, it didn't give a leg-up on gear, and it made leveling easier for everyone being less crowded. In my opinion, having dual release worked well as long as they keep the limitations they had.
It actually launched 4 times... We in the world outside the USA had to wait a day longer (even though the promise was made this would not be the case)
During Shadowlands we had the pandemic too, so... a lot more people were staying at home.
I was not going to entertain EA,u had bought the middle pack.But FOMO started to hit me as launch day creeped up,so i bought the upgrade with in-game gold.Glad I did! Had so much fun levelling at my own pace
So far the best bug by far is the missing ship in Dawnbreaker. I watched 3 of my guildies run up the stairs and disappear so I followed figuring there is a portal or something only to plummet to my death hand in hand with the hunter.
Full launch player, i had exactly zero issues. no connection issues, no lag, etc
I actually really like early access though I don’t have the same new expansion launch experience. Dragonflight was the first season 1 I ever played, I always bought the new expansion a while after it launched before that and only started group content in shadowlands season 3. I’m also one of the people who finally had enough fun money to get the epic edition and just saw the early access as a bonus. It took a bit before I realized how amazing the beta access is too because it was my first time for that as well! I love how smooth the early access was though most of my guild group got disconnected during official release which ruined that one more for me. I don’t see how people struggling to log on and just going to bed is a good bonding experience personally.
This is the first time I have ever had early access to a game. In fact I didn't even realize I had it because I just bought the collector's edition like I always do and didn't realize it had EA until a friend told me. I won't lie, it was nice. The zones were rather quiet and I felt like I could go through them at a slower pace without having to deal with .so. many people at quest givers or in areas where I would have had to wait on mobs to spawn to complete said quests. I wouldn't pay for the EA for just EA sake though, but if it comes with the collector's editions that I will buy anyways, then.. eh?!
I enjoyed the early access, didn't have to deal with as many people. The game overall is amazing so far.
I did not pay for early access, but I did beat the leveling difficulty adjustment with my first character.
However, the timing of the difficulty change was poor planned, and left a negative tone.
All that being said, I have really enjoyed the content and flow of the game play. Delves have been a lot of fun and a welcome new feature.
To be fair it’s still not “difficult” to level. It was pretty boring leveling during EA on my geared dragonflight toon. Quite literally one shotting every non elite
I just wish there was a bit more to the campaign quests in Hallowfall. Dorn and the Ringing Deeps were cool and all but Hallowfall is beautiful and interesting and it kinda felt like you were just passing through on your way to deal with the Nerubians.
I feel like that's intentional; the events and story of Hallowfall is very present while the other zones have tons of ancient history behind it
Everyone without Early Access was so disappointed the first launch went off almost flawlessly. So many angry comments insisting it was going to be a disaster.
the delayed launch felt terrible for me. i'm usually my guild first max level, this xpac ive only played 4 hours so far.
Worst launch of an expansion so far for me. Came back to the game, played through Remix, had a great time, the prepatch was a great catchup, they built up a lot of good will there, and then they just completely ruined it with the early access thing. It wasn't on my radar at all, I didn't expect the way it would kill the hype and split the community but it felt truly awful. As others have mentioned, it was not early access, it was late access for anyone that didn't buy the most expensive option. I wouldn't have had a single problem with this if they just handed out "early" access to everyone that pre-ordered, that would have been a much more social and reasonable thing to do. But now I'm apparently one of the "poors"' because I decided to "only" spend 70 bucks on the expansion that I already pay a sub for. Those were a long 4 days, and it didn't help that I was absolutely bombarded with advertisements and social media post. They even went so far as to post spoilers on their official channels, truly incomprehensible. Then when us plebians finally got to play they decided to nerf the leveling experience. After all the streamers and whatnot had their easy ride to the top leveling a dozen alts with easy, we get to punch mud. It doesn't feel great.
I also think the whole "but it was such a smooth launch" was a bullshit excuse. Yeah of course it's going to be smooth if half the playerbase is missing. But there's probably other ways to go about this and ensure a stable launch other than funneling everyone into buying the epic edition, it's just a shameless cash grab. Furthermore, going back to previous expansions, I really can't remember the last time I was around for a launch where it wasn't smooth sailing already, that just shouldn't be a problem in 2024, they have all the experience and know-how they could possibly want and need to avoid messing that up on a technical level.
Tbh I don't think there should be a divide between people over this.
Some folks had the disposable income to spend on the early access some didn't.
This is the first time I've ever bought above the base level of the game as I really wanted the mount and used the shit out of it.
Having early access hasn't made me actually or feel ahead of anyone else as I only have a certain amount of time to play and it being the bank holiday weekend in the UK allowed me a little more play time.
I'm just casually (filthy or not😂) working my way through the side quests and soaking it all in.
I've never understood the need to be first or maxed in x amount of hours as to me that's wasted money.
Especially when certain things weren't available in early access and still aren't now.
No new race to play as of this week so would o do it again?
Probably not but definitely not because of any "community divides".
I look at it like the trading post each month.
"Do I want it enough to spend my funds?"
Not getting to level with my friends and experience everything together sucked. Probably the worst launch in terms of excitement for me.
I’m not mad at the people that bought early access. I’m just mad it was only on the highest tier of preorders. Blizz forced the choice.
I had that rollback glitch, too, I thought it was just me and that I'd done one of those dc's where you don't realize you are dc'd lol.
My thoughts of launch:
We bought the early access so that we could feel relaxed leveling instead feeling like we had to rush to max level for raiding. Our guild min/maxers also joined early access, but while they were leveling as many alts as they could to give them the most options for raid and M+. I was happy having all the time to read all the quests and only get my main dps and main healer leveled. The atmosphere was wonderful. I'd do it again if Blizz decides to keep early access.
I wasn't thrilled with another dwarf race, but I enjoyed them more than I thought I would after doing most of the quest lines. I love the delves and the ability to learn a dungeon as a tank in the follower dungeons. I didn't notice any of the glitches with the economy that you mentioned because I have just been collecting and leveling professions, and I'm not overly concerned with gold. I chose to level my main by doing the storyline, and I've started each new alt in a different region for all the side quests. Overall, I am enjoying this launch and have had a lot of fun.
Side note: there is a toggle on your world map to turn off quests your warband has done if you don't want to see them!
yeah i did everything on my main character... having quests there that are "warbound done" would trigger me way too much. I noticed it before release with the pre-event and im like nope, not having that
I wasn't financially able to participate in early access and it really felt like a punishment to me. But aside from that it's been good as a full time dad who doesn't have a lot of time to dump into the expansion. I'm only a few levels into the first zone, but it's been a good experience and I am enjoying the side stories
I think two launch's as been Great!! the ones who started early got easy and unpopulated introduction was Nice, Rather than the All at once Rush that lags out the Quests and servers.
Its the smoothest launch ive ever had. Only 1-2 quests i really had to wait for respawns on, the rest went really smooth. So i think they need to do it like this on every launch from now on. Spending 20 min to finish a quest due to a million players tagging the same mobs is not fun. Having so many players that servers crash is even less fun. We had a few smooth luanches before, but nothing like this
They should have class specific quests so the game never feels repetitive
I don't trust youtube and streaming metrics as measures of wow health because I know myself and others have mostly unplugged from the wow "content" cycles seeing them as bad for the game and community, with exceptions.
I did not like the early launch, like others have said, it divided the community into haves and have nots that had nothing to do with in game skill or desires, but by whether you could pay. In a time where class divide is already pressing us down, getting it in my escape is just peak capitalist hellscape.
I hated it.
Homie! Go into your map and unchecked warband completed quests. All the markers will disappear from your map and in person warband completed quests will have faded markers.
I got beta for warlords of drain war and everyone after that. I
got it almost instantly as soon as I applied. This time, I did not get beta at all. Makes one wonder if I didn't get it because they were waiting for me to pay
I'm pretty sure that more than half the playerbase bought early access, which means that Blizzard has successfully made an expansion price of $90. Crazy. Disgraceful.
No, definitelly not more than half the playerbase bought early access, the population wayyy more than doubled when the normal release came about
@@darkduprey4079 there's no way either of us can know that for sure
@@darkduprey4079 there's no way either of us can know that for sure
It was impossible to avoid spoilers...it was bad enough that beta was mostly for early access folks and streamers.
Other than the AH being down I had no issues on either release day, not a single issue, not even lag LOL
those side quests show up as a different mark on my alts, if completed already. I did all but one storyline in the starting area on my main to hit level 80 as completing the main storyline. I then did an alt in each one of the zones to complete all the side quests in each zone. However, there are some bugged quests that I cannot complete yet. But those ! marks show up faded for the ones I have already done.
Great launch loved it
I heard you can't lock XP at 70. I hope they change that back since I wanted to keep my rogue locked at dragon flight since I never finished all quests and don't want it any more trivial than it already is. I like to have a new character each expansion
i'm gonna call it like i see it, this expansion ROCKS so far. i hope that it can maintain that momentum all the way through the rest of the expansion and ultimately the Saga. also not surprised that Asmon can barely manage to play 6 hours nowadays, he is the most lethargic of streamers.
New Jingles! New Jingles! Wrabadabadou!!!
I haven’t even visited the AH since early access. And no issues with professions because it wasn’t really my focus. But the cloth drops just for tailors means I am having to grab loot fast in dungeons instead of just ‘leaving it behind’. One thing that bothered me is the lack of any mention of Dalaran being blown up and the loss of Kadgar.
The early access was a slap in the face to WoW players. Greed that was condoned by the ones who bought it. Wrath was the height of blizzard. Dual zones to level, we get 3 total for this one. They are getting lazy while trying to extract more money.
3 total? Ajz-kahet isn't a level 80-only zone.
I have to agree the early access was great , personally i had no problems , just the auction house thing, but i still made a lot of gold, now the price of ore and herb have dropped hard
My losses in this expansion was to craft the new profession bags thinking they were BoE, since u cant craft order then for skinning and realizing they're BoP
Wtf..are those all BoP?
I'm loving it; I like it even more than DF. (And I liked DF a lot!) I had a hard time finishing the leveling campaign because I wanted to do more of the other quests, I wanted to do more delves, I wanted to level my crafting and gathering. Early access was nice just to avoid some of the quest-giver-scrum of opening day shenanigans, but otherwise, it doesn't seem to have given my character anything more than a slight boost to fishing? Because I didn't intend it as a strategic element of play. But I'm just a filthy casual, so what do I know? LOL
Great commentary and video! Though I feel you're remiss in not pointing out how HUGE Warbands are. This single feature changes everything about the present and future of WoW, and what Blizzard can do with it. I'm also a little shocked that you ranted about seeing your already completed Warband quests, when you had already made a video about how you could hide those from your map. 🤣
They don't hide in game =(
I didn't get the early access. I got two days of playing TWW, then I broke my ankle. I've been able to play here and there, every couple days. I have still not gotten a toon to 80. I realized that after hitting 77 I was no longer getting XP gains. Hopefully I'll get xp again when I log on later.
Awesome launch
I am fine with early access, however I can't understand why levelling was nerfed right when "Launch" happened.
So, basically, if you pay extra you can, not only, play earlier but also level faster.
edit:
Why isn't AH working as intended?!
To be fair Blizzard wasn't wrong about how you would just one shot everything from level 70 to 75
The timing wasn't optimal but the nerf itself wasn't unwarranted
Wrong move, I quit 1 day after standard launch after the infamous blue post.
bye felicia
I had early access and I hated to double launch it felt off
5:13 That is why I just do all the zones on my main even if I hit 80 mostly so I can look at the map completed after words lol. I wish you had an option for warband wide questing kind of like bdo account wide questing. I get some like redoing quests but also some do not. I would have loves to do some zones on alts after I hit 80 on my main but my ocd got me wanting a clean map to much.
Always good to see Soul.
Tbh I found it all smooth too.
No queuing to log in and even tho I was an early access whore I still had a good time on both launch days.
Odd weird bugs here and there with only one major one that seemed to change some of my keybinds randomly.
That was after the "boss" in the blacksmiths armour chain in Azk.
Once I was told to go back to Mereder (sp?) it glitched and wouldn't let me fly and kept turning on auto run. A mess around in my keybinds resetting them seemed to sort it.
I took my time during EA. I got my main to max and did all campaign & ideas quest opened to me.
isn't there a way to toggle off warband-completed quests?
Its alright, though two full resets before the 'first season' is a bit of a false start feeling.
The auction house being broken is really really annoying
I found this to be the worst launch in terms of actual fun and enjoyment, but it was for sure more stable than most. Not having everyone jump into the new expansion at the same time really left a sour taste. The advantage for professions and gold-making was also massive. If they do this delayed launch again, I don't think I will play.
I am loving the expac launch dungeons were a bit cray mostly cus folks were overpowering content at the beginning dps were running off and pulling whole dungeons ... otherwise its been a blast
Yeah I decided to do all the quests on main first then I’ll go after on alts
I was going to pick tWW on clearance (basically because I do not have enough time to play right now, not that I hate it or whatever) and then play it at a slow pace to at least see the story but, after the changes to leveling, I'm thinking in waiting until Midnight and play it for free leveling an alt there.
Early access was great and hope they continue this method. Leveling was smooth and the bugs were very minor to nothing. Great start to the expansion. I hope the haters stay away, I got a good laugh out of the FOMO community complaining. Also as far as I'm concerned Asmon and his groupies can stay gone. WOW is a better place without them.
Splitting the launch is the most disrespectful disappointing thing blizzard have ever done.
Splitting up the player base definitely lost Blizz a lot of hype - and also goodwill because it's blatantly anti-consumer. I really hope they don't repeat that again for Midnight.
Actually it was 2 & 1/2 launches since if you participated in the beta that would be a half launch. I didn't do it since after the beta is done it's a wipe and I like the newness of a expansion. I've 15 level 70s, 6 created from MoP, not to mention some lower ones as well, so I have enough to do without messing with the beta.
WHAT ABOUT THRALLS FEET BROTHER
I don't hold much hope for delves as solo end game content for people playing in quest gear. I tried a level 2 bountiful delve and was flat out wrecked, at lvl 80, ilvi 545. That's level 2, mind you. I was able to complete the same level 1 bountiful quest, and that dropped a piece of gear so below my current ilvl, and it did after a very long time of dungeon level tactical play. Rewards not worth effort; little chance of advancing through to upper levels. level 2, ffs.
So, is it solo play for open world folks, or is it something to do on raiding off days? It should be both, of course, but if open world geared folks can only do levels that add no ilvl, then again, it's a slap in the face to the kind of solo players that really do have little end game.
I loved early access launch but once all the poor people had their launch everything became laggy and shit stopped working.
I enjoyed the extra time to read quest texts without being crowded. In fact, my VDH reached 80 last Thursday and I’m still exploring Hallowfall. It was also interesting to find quest givers who were not flagged on the map, some of whom still aren’t.
Just… don’t mention delves, ‘k?
11:46 and im sure they were picked cause they payed for launch, ya I wana watch people play content Im banded from cause I didnt pay extra to play it on time.
The staggered launch was awkward and did no favors to the game. The excitement of launch wasn't there between those avoiding spoilers and those not participating and when they did those in early access were done and bored.
Heck, hype was so low some our raiders didn't even start playing until later in the week. The expansion is good and didn't deserve to have it's launch ruined by greed.
That time with everyone together and excited for launch, even with issues sometimes is still an important event and the staggered launch just ruined it.
My only real issue is that, if you did the pre-patch event on an alt, you lost the option to skip the Dalaran crash intro sequence. While you still have the ability to just port there and do side quests and world quests, it just seems like an oversight. Personally, i think they should have carried forward with the way they did it in DF.
I saw some posts where people said you could talk to Jaina or Thrall, the only option either of them had was to watch the video.
All of my alts did the prepatch event and they could skip the crash intro sequence (after I played through with my main).
Is it only skippable after completing the campaign?
@@nzwj maybe my campaign tracking bugged out again I missed another quest. I had that happen in the second area and only found it after about an hour of flying around. Not sure why it didn't show up in the log or on the map. I'll check it out. Ty
I'd say its been a successful launch. Delves I feel are progression for the super super casual, you know like the people who cant even be bothered to do M0s, which is fine. I still see plenty of people online in my guild which for me is great, love seeing people come back. I am not much of a twitch enjoyer myself but I do feel the whole "dual launch" did kind of screw over streamers. You have half of the playerbase mad that there was a launch 3 days before the actual launch and the other half not wanting spoilers.
Delves are for friendless people like me who never get M0 groups, and for that I love them :)
should be great for alts too
I bought the one with early access i love it 😃
I think it would have been a miserable experience as a single launch. The servers were barely hanging on as it was, and with an extra 30% of players present they would have crashed far more. Funnelling everyone into a single zone is always awkward.
However, if they could fix stability with better sharding, perhaps a single launch would be better just to not see the incessant misery from the community. The guys shouting about "paypigs" the guys shouting back about "peasants and plebs", the people shouting spoilers in yell and say or just bitching out loud about this or that...its the most insufferable ive seen the community in a long time, and I want someone to make a mod that auto-leaves Trade on login, since it doesn't seem to let me leave it and stay gone anymore.
I had to work so early launch was not worth me paying the extra money. Really didn't bother me that I had to wait, and haven't felt the sting of not starting when others did really.
I've had fun, and I think overall the launch went well enough. However, a few really questionable decisions on Blizzard's part has marred the experience for me. First, and I think this deserves it's own video, is the NPC or Patron crafting orders. These are a complete failure for me at this point in the game. I think I could complete maybe 10% of them, and half of those would require me to spend upwards of 50k gold or dump all my knowledge points into something I didn't want to, just to do them. The rewards you get from doing them in no way justifies the cost of making these orders with little to no reagents. This was not what I was expecting, I thought they would actually help me, not taunt me. Second, while the leveling/scaling thing really needed to be corrected, Blizzard's timing could not have been worse. Very poor decision on their part that left a bad taste with a lot of people. Thirdly, while not a conscious decision like the other two, the AH not functioning properly during the first week has been awful. This is something that they really should have tested in beta, or reverted, or something. Not having a working AH during the busiest time of an expansion is inexcusable.
"hardcore folk" some people can pay the access without being a fucking baby
My experience has been awesome so far. Wukong is an incredible game. I'm having tons of fun playing it.