The Swedish Radical Delta | Learning the DCS AJS-37 Viggen!

[@Spudknocker]

I am really mad that I hadn't given the AJS-37 Viggen a second chance sooner, It is a really cool and quirky jet that I think has a lot to offer experienced DCS World Pilots!

[@henryoshea4951]

Hands down best module in DCS. No - in the name it's just AJS37 though

[@CakePrincessCelestia]

Great you finally gave it a shot. I heard it will receive a major update in October, same as the Tomcat :)

[@squarehat]

Would this be a good first jet to learn?

[@dogone7262]

The maverick screen is very smart. It works like a keyhole or a HUD for that matter. One you get closer you can see a "larger screen" inside (IRL).
NO: you do not enter airbase code - you tell the computer with 9099 to load data from the Data Transfer Unit which should contain you mission plan. Blinking 9= not finished, all zeroes = GO
No INS, it uses air data, dead reckoning and doppler from the radar altimeter to calculate movement. You need to fix the system before the attack run (usually done automatically with the ternav system).
You switch to Nav once you are in line with the runway (very precise), and by the time you pass the half way it will autofix itself (Check planned RW on the data panel with the selector in "BANA" (Runway) - change RW with LS-button as told by ATC).
The mostly shorter "poles" at the outer sides of the altitude poles is always 100 m. If the closes pole is 5 times longer, you are at 500 m.
The speedometer has a small tick at 550 km/h - that is the best range speed
Once you pass a certain speed (about 550-600) the gear and rudder is locked (IRL). There will be a 500 pound counter pressure on the pedals.
The "km" indicator to the right is the emergency speedometer. It should say "km/h".
The AJ-37 flew the first time in 1967. The AJS upgrade fitted the AJ with new computers and databuses, and modified weapons interface (1553B databus). The AJS was introduced in the early 90:s, and the SH37 was also modified (sea sentry) to use the RBS15 anti ship missile. Ternav was introduced with the AJS-mod as well as a very potent mission management system for planning and evaluation.
Not "attitude indicator" in the HUD - Velocity Vector.
No max reverse thrust below 100 km/h - normally. Easy the throttle a bit.

[@emilzahariev1111]

who can help me the f16 hut to move the head from right to left to top to bottom moves smoothly but the Vigen does not work this function. When I enter the settings and move the hut down the top right and left it shows that the settings are the same as on the F 16 and when I started playing it doesn't work. The numbers on the keyboard from 1 to 9 also do not work (and in the settings they are included)

[@dogone7262]

@@emilzahariev1111 Hut?

[@TheMack]

Love the Viggen! Then again, I'm a swede and had these beasts flying in the sky when I was young. It sure leaves a mark! =)

[@Spudknocker]

That is so cool dude!

[@fastfiddler1625]

I took it upon myself to learn this a couple of weeks ago. It's kind of odd at first, but damn it is fun once you get the basics. Especially when you learn to use pop up points, you can do some cool stuff. The F-10 map mark points are wonderfully executed. The Harrier has that too, but it's much easier to use in the Viggen. It's cool to see what they were capable of in 1971. It's REALLY cool to see it simulated so well here. Heatblur does great work.

[@ygrams]

Much of the reason for the choice of engine was that the ability to reverse the jet to stop quickly on road bases of the era :)
Also, the 9099 is to load the cartridge. After that, you can see your airbase. In your case 9019.
Another thing, the runway heading you wanted to see can only be seen when you are on LS/SKU so you have to choose that first (AKT/POS, LS/SKU). THEN you can turn the dial to BANA/GRÄNS (RUNWAY/something else) and you'll see your runway heading. Doesn't matter though which heading you start since the aircraft will align itself when you reach about 200 km/h during take off.
The HUD-thing is actually (in real life) that you'll burn the light thingy that creates the green symbols on the HUD.
The speedometer on the right is the backup.
The EP-13 can be set to BLACK HOT as well, and with contrast and brightness adjustments it becomes way better. Still, like SAKER says, we never use the slewing function :)
The reason you thought you had 1 km of drift was that you hadn't put your safety back on so what you saw was your pylons, 1 0 0 0 0 1 (ok, you found it :D Commenting along with the video)
A tip on landing is to adjust the toe brakes so that you don't get 100% braking. I think I have mine on more like 50%. Backside is that you can't hold it on 100% mil power without moving but 70-80% does just as fine.
At last, here is something from the airbase where I served in 1998 you can watch to get you more excited about flying the Viggen :) ua-cam.com/video/hWrsP3hq5M8/v-deo.html&ab_channel=OscarE

[@desertsaker196]

Thanks for all the feedback! I got a few things wrong when explaining to spud as you noted - it was a bit of a surprise to do this video, so I didn’t get a chance to study! Been flying the Piper in MSFS recently to practice for my IRL flying, so I hadn’t flown the Viggen in a while.
I forgot to select LS when looking at Bana Grans! Rookie move! And yeah, the 9099 I believe is a mission code to load the cartridge, right? In real life, it would be a secret code that changes every so often I think? Let me know! I would like to make a few structured tutorial videos on the Viggen soon, so your input is appreciated!

[@desertsaker196]

Oh also, do you know the real answer to Spud’s question about whether or not you do overhead breaks to land short-field? Or do you go straight in?

[@ygrams]

@@desertsaker196 I'll confirm with my buddies (former Viggen pilots in NOSIG (NOrdic SImulator Group) if they come online tonight but we talked about it recently and I think they did overhead breaks at road bases. I guess it depends on the situation :)

[@ygrams]

@@desertsaker196 Same answer here, I'll check with the professionals :D
Also here ua-cam.com/users/hilmerby you can find some Viggen tutorials but they are of course in swedish. We've talked about making them with english commentary or subtitles 👍

[@TheEnvy44]

Bro, I just started the viggen free trial. Great timming & glad you're back !

[@vitorarbex]

I´m having a lot more success with the B maverick variant, the extra zoom helps a lot to slew and lock the desired target, its usefull to focus on SAs or AAAs first. Also EP13 sight brightness and contrast works very well now. I´m using those a lot. But the T Bigger HE warhead indeed packs a punch, did managed to kill 3 ground units with a single Mav T.
It´s a simple to pickup and hard to master module. Also includes 2 campaigns, 3 if you have nevada, Great module.

[@CakePrincessCelestia]

6:57 Wasn't aware of that being something simplified. I wish Heatblur would add airbase codes with a full list per each map in the kneeboard to enter instead of just 9099.
15:17 Note to every future instructor: Tell your students to map and use the thrust reverser at this point, it's much more efficient... :D
18:36 Protip here: Since you normally have your SPAK (basically some kind of SAS) on, as soon as you picked up some speed (somewhere around 100kph which is roughly around 60kts, so basically where you'd switch off NWS in western aircraft), stop using your rudder pedals as they get way too sensitive - and use your stick instead. The SPAK adds a little amount of rudder to your aileron input which is much more comfortable to use at this point to keep the plane straight on the runway and it's usually strong enough to do the job.
26:02 Great to know, wasn't aware of that. So basically the quick method is good for any kind of missile (including the BK M90 glide dispenser) while you should ideally be using ANF for bombs, rockets and gunpods to get a more precise aimpoint calculation with the radar ranging taken into account.
27:33 As Saker already stated, the last digit is your drift in km. The 5th digit is one you should pay attention to as well though. It goes from 0 to 5, indicating the TERNAV status (detailled info on pdf-page 169, nice, in the manual).
0 = off
1 = on ground
2 = rough search
3 = fine search
4 = running, but inactive in SPA (recon) mode
5 = running and auto-fixing (which is what you want to see, no manual nav fixes required)
30:09 LOL this is why I prefer to use a browser (= Firefox) instead. Around 1.7 - 1.8 Gigs at the moment, but with that video cached of course and I've got somewhere around 2000 (yeah, 2k) tabs open, but most of them aren't loaded. Simple Tab Groups FTW. Having 64 Gigs of RAM, this wouldn't become an issue anyway. I had my DCS crash often enough on my old rig with 32GB, even with the browser shut down, but it has yet to happen on my new one with the thing still in background.
33:06 If I had a 2 stage trigger (FFB2 FTW though), I'd map the trigger safety to the first stage. In my case I have it mapped to the trigger and weapon release is button 2 (the big thumb one)

[@desertsaker196]

Hey, I messed up that explanation. The 9099 is the mission code to load the cartridge, with the airport code being part of the cartridge. You can edit the airport using codes found in the kneeboard

[@desertsaker196]

Oh also, my note regarding releasing weapons in NAV vs ANF obviously only works on the few weapons that can be fired in either mode. Some need to be in NAV, some need to be in ANF, not all of them can be fired in either mode.

[@CakePrincessCelestia]

@@desertsaker196 Yeah, noticed that as well now. It's been a while I was flying the thing and I'm not getting back into it :)
BTW I noticed the EP13 controls really help with the Mav picture. Just crank the contrast up to max, switch to A2 to get it to black hot and at max "brightness" it would be completely black, just crank it down enough so the blacks in the center are gone and it's pretty much good enough then, much better than the default setup.

[@klofisch]

The underdog most don't want to fly. I love that thing.....wish we could get the Fighter version JA37

[@Blablablabla1ify]

Just a quick correction/clarification regarding the engine. It’s a Svenska Flygmotor (later Volvo Aero) RM8, which is based upon the Pratt & Whitney JT8D-1 - a LOW bypass engine found on the B727, B737-100/200 and the DC9.
However, the RM8 was heavily modded to be able to cope with supersonic speeds, and a Swedish-designed reheat was also designed and installed, in addition to the mods. The engine was optimised for very low altitudes, meaning that the fighter variant (JA37) had to have a redesigned engine to be able to better cope with high altitude ops.

[@desertsaker196]

Yeah, when I said “high bypass,” I meant in comparison to other fighter jets of the era which were nearly turbojets as their bypass ratio was so small.

[@mrCyk0]

The RM8 engine is a low bypass engine just like the JT8D-1 it is based on are low bypass engines not high... True it was used by the 737 initially before it was re engined with an actual high bypass to make it more fuel efficient. Ocf the RM8 was built from the ground up and not based on retrofitted JT8D-1 engines (which as an engine is based on the J52 used by attack aircraft so it sort of went full circle back to the strike role)

[@JonathanLundkvist]

The Viggen is absolutely my favourite bird in DCS. I even made an overview for it to persuade more to try it out:
ua-cam.com/video/_0cusZ9jPrU/v-deo.html

[@jungletroll3844]

You persuaded me

[@W1ngnut27]

Viggen was the first module I bought and I'm still loving it!

[@DCS.1-1]

Fun fact with the rudder in the viggen
Just use the stick Left/Right the computer take cares of the rest on T/O & Landing

[@markgs6941]

That taxi was legit hilarious bro only cos I relate on so many levels. The Viggen I had to axis tune most of my axis cmds. Super video! Keep it up

[@justinmarsh9802]

Love you saker! Glad you taught spud how to fly the Swedish angry Dorito 😂😂

[@Gottowt]

The engine volvo RM8 is an pratt and whitney JT8D that was mainly used on the dc9 and md80 and it has never been mounted on any 737 as far as I know.

[@Gottowt]

Ah now i saw that it was also mounted on the 737-100-200. But dont know if it could really be described as a ”high bypass” engine as its bypass ratio is only 0.97

[@desertsaker196]

I come back from my first IRL landing to find this video! What a pleasant surprise :)

[@Spudknocker]

NICE Dude!

[@desertsaker196]

@@Spudknocker I let the nose wheel down too hard and it came back up a little bit, but my instructor said he had never experienced such a soft first landing from a student! He was just blowing up my ego though, he had to push the yoke down to keep me from flaring too early, he only took his hands off the controls when we were in ground effect haha

[@Spudknocker]

@@desertsaker196 Awesome!

[@subjectc7505]

I might give the Vig a try one day

[@christerjackson9589]

3:27 Pretty sure those say "nosställ" "ställ" and "ställ", that's what we use for the gear essentially, nosställ is your nosegear.

[@KharmenSense]

Little known fact: The normal flight plan for Viggens allow for the Swedish to put thick blades on the pylons so the pilots can help the farmers plow their fields before seeding them in the spring

[@bornshort]

hahah as a swede it's very funny to hear you guys trying to pronunce the words XD

[@joachimbrand2314]

Great video! Love how Saker is into the viggen. Just downloaded the Trial today, so lets see if i like the viggen as well...

[@flouk7884]

Do a bad weather landing at a roadbase in between trees and you will never want to do Case1-Stuff again. ;-) Pure fun!

[@desertsaker196]

Hope to have him try out the TILS and terrain avoidance modes soon!

[@johnwicks4936]

Big update coming for the Viggen in October.

[@johanstenhoff3519]

They should really ad the jas 39 gripen to the game

[@brunotvrs]

Not being a long time subscriber or DCS player I was a bit confused with the voice changes from video do video and the jokes about impersonation and devoting the life to the Swedish dorito. This video finally made me understand you're actually 2 people and not a bad mic/good mic (or a "years ago") situation :P

[@simracer1256]

That laugh is absurd

[@anthonieneveling6435]

Lol, I bought it on special and tried the cold start for about 40 mins and gave up......looks like im'e gonna give it another go ! 😁

[@Allan_aka_RocKITEman]

FWIW, I *_LOVE_* the look of the *_Viggen!_*

[@hernzo9798]

I could never master them radio controlled Mavericks on this plane

[@user-ol1qm9ey7g]

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[@mastermusashi7566]

Perfect timing bro just bought her this morning lol

[@tobiasradl2293]

As a dane, thats an awesome skin for the Viggen!

[@racatck7835]

where there is a viggen, there is a saker

[@lordbaltimore8246]

Not a good thing to arm your ejection seat while inside a bunker, better to wait until you clear it

[@_DANZIG_]

Spud, is there a way to get your current Track IR profile?

[@Spudknocker]

Hey man my current one is the same as my old one! No changes needed!

[@wilbuzllf5057]

Great video, I love the Viggen! Born under the skies of it which makes me biased of course :-D
Ps. If you run the chance of hitting a power line while flying a Viggen you're flying too high :-D

[@daronbranston9757]

Hi spud I am currently using msfs and I'm thinking about trying dcs what would say are the main differences ?

[@KingKong-os7iv]

Has a more sinister looking AC ever been constructed?

[@Sprud_]

Bro, the mig-29

[@desertsaker196]

BRO?!

[@nLight]

For the record, First flight: February 8, 1967, not 87.
Its not "modern & old "

[@tomaszwota1465]

Is hojd pronounced kinda like "hoight"? Like a heavy accent English?

[@emilzahariev1111]

who can help me the f16 hut to move the head from right to left to top to bottom moves smoothly but the Vigen does not work this function. When I enter the settings and move the hut down the top right and left it shows that the settings are the same as on the F 16 and when I started playing it doesn't work. The numbers on the keyboard from 1 to 9 also do not work (and in the settings they are included)

[@danwebcralwer8671]

WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEGAN

[@DieNachteule78]

I love the Viggen

[@KingKong-os7iv]

So Boolean variables are unknown to these pilots?

[@jerrodcorey25]

ONE CONFUSING COMPLEX AIRCRAFT. MY GOD

[@SFDPSFDP]

It is actually fairly simple, just different and unique from what we are used to. You just need to remember a few codes.

[@skankbo]

agreed. i had a much easier time picking this up over the various us modules

[@M60A3]

Where is the fuel gauge???

[@maxpower7466]

This ia the truth about DCS.... it's all about to share the experience

[@daggerdunce3914]

yo how do you get your curser to show up like that?

[@pluton9133]

As a swede it was painful to listen to you guys trying to pronounce the different buttons names wich are in swedish. But the video overall were very enjoyable keep up the good content man

[@tomaszwota1465]

Hojd -- is it pronounced like a heavy accented "Height"? Like... "Hoit"?

[@borkug1566]

Dude is 100% constantly speaking with voice fry. Unbearable. See a speech therapist my man.

[@desertsaker196]

Hey, sorry to disappoint. I haven’t invested much money in a good mic as I’m not a dedicated UA-camr, and all my money is going into my IRL flight training.