Ukrainian Troops Speak Out: Russian Roulette in Ukraine
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- Опубліковано 15 бер 2014
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As the whole world waits to see what impact the referendum has on Crimea, VICE News correspondent Simon Ostrovsky spends time with new recruits of the Crimean Self Defense Army.
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Ukrainian solder: _It's spring. Wish we could spend more time with girls. Rather than to be here._
So true, even the soldiers want no part of this bullshit the politicians have created, they just want to live life and have a good time.
We are all human. Reminds me of that Sting song: Sting - Russians. Btw I'm curious how you italicized your text lol. I only know *bold*
Jw4n9 _italics_ is with an underscore "_" before and after the text and you can also -strikethroughs- with a dash "-".
Abraham Williams Much appreciated. Now I can express myself better in comments lol. Funny how changing the way a word looks can do that.
-it works- _haha_
Simon, I don't know if you get to read any of these comments, but your VICE reports are the best. You do excellent, revealing interviews of the people and soldiers, and you set everything up with necessary background information, so we know what we are watching. Not all the VICE reporting does that. As I've mentioned before, I eagerly await new reports from you. Excellent job during a difficult, tense situation.
Absolutely spot on. Exactly my thoughts.
@willl 88 WDYM one sided?? The very reason people tend to like his reporting is because he's NOT biased.
I nearly had an aneurism watching them march.
aneurysm
too lazy to edit
Jack_WRX Why do Americans always have to try to brag somehow
@@FujisamaProductions War Thunder and Ace Combat doesn't count as active duty air force.
Meine Namen we do t always try to brag
this is crimeas self defence force? is it their first time ever marching in formation? i've seen 12 year old cadets do better....
lol, I believe their local Ukrainians,
yea, i see that now... lol. made that first comment as they were marching into eachothers backs, then realized that yes, it probably is their first time marching in formation... either way, they still "rack disciprine"
mhm, yeah I totally agree, xD
It is just like the Nazi fighters back in WW2 when the Soviet strom the Berlin and the Nazi have to armed all the teenage. The difference is only you are freely to join the Crimean army.
LMG Light-Machine-Gun I'd think its more similar to the french when they had to join hitlerian forces during the occupation of Europe by the Nazis.
ah vice, the only people on the ground giving interesting insight in to what is happening. no propaganda, no spin. love it
Sarcasm?
@@3232ins no its not, bc hes right
@@3232ins u woke or what
@The Bald Kid tru its actually pretty sad...
@@3232ins times have changed
Every time I see this guy walk up to a group of people I fear for his life
The connected world: Che Guevara belt buckle on a Spanish born Russian joining a Crimean defense force to separate from the Ukraine (observed by a Irishman in Canada)
Hail Globalism!
ohhaihaihaihai You'd think all us common folk would eventually realize who our real enemies are! I have far more in "common" with the average Ukrainian citizen than I do with an American like George Soros!
Eat The Rich !!!!!!
@@cherrypickerguitars Lynch the Landlords.
@@ohhaihaihaihai We all got globalised when Romans from Apenine, marched through Europe, spreading Middle Eastern religion ,written in latin , on Chineese invented paper...while being funded by the gold they looted from North Africa, Anatolia, Iran and etc.
YES A REAL CLOWN, IS INCREDIBLE
"I think now the main difference between the Crimean Army and the Ukrainian Army is that as soon as you take a pledge of allegiance to Crimea, they put a ski-mask over your head."
Oh my god that cracked me up so much
I cant help but laugh when the guy in the start says "March" and the soldiers just trot along leisurely XD
I'm honestly neutral in this issue, it's just fascinating for me.
Dude... How can you be neutral in this? This is breaking a country's sovereignty
collin482 That's Putin's talk. Don't be like that. Try to actually think about what you say.
ethioman123 Its not my fight. None of my people are involved. So until the US starts dropping bombs (which is very unlikely) this is not my greatest concern
So I'll sit back and watch this unfold.
collin482
Alaska is part of Russia !
WassabiYakunglee ???
For me that last quote by that young soldier sums up war... it's very emotive for me. :)
nothing better than waking up to a new episode of vice!
Is anyone else wondering where these guys are now?
idk about these guys exactly but some soldiers who are fighting for russia that have died have been shown with passports with there town as crimea
@@CaptainMartinWalkerты кто?
Their hoodie jacket is straight out of STALKER.
Haha exactly what I thought...
Though,.. GET OUT OF HERE STALKER.
4:38 Niko Bellic
if with a bigger nose
Ye Shang Let's not be anal here... finally got to use that word...
Cousin, it's your cousin. Let's go bowling.
so.. thats where he went. nowonder he is missing in GTA 5
niko was in pakistan doe
How does one take an oath to Crimea? as far as im concerned it is just a territory that is being disputed by Ukraine and Russia.
The whole thing is made up by Putin's own ambitions. Crimea has no right to do anything like that: not by inner Ukraine's law, not by international law.
The referendum, russian troops, the borders blockage, self-defense forces made up of local and foreign russian criminals.
This is the biggest international crime you can possibly imagine. But things like this happened before: you can revise Sudeten Crisis in 1938 when Hitler took a land of his neighbor in exactly same way Putin is taking Crimea now. Back then a world community just gave it away and... well, you know what happened next.
war love Jesus. I'm having a hard time understanding a single word you say.
The thing is - i am russian and crimean. I've been at Maidan from november to february and now i see what's happening in my homeland with my own eyes.
I've heard everything our new government said and how it was made up as something related to Nazism by Russian television. I see how russian troops, military vehicles, battle ships, submarines, helicopters, artillery are coming every day. I know who Aksenov and Konstantinov (the head of our new self-proclaimed government) are and exactly why they serve Putin now. I know exactly why this referendum is illegal. I've seen all kinds of criminal acts taken by these self-proclaimed local defense forces.
Take a note: instead of supporting everything civilized community considers unacceptable, try to find out the truth behind everything your local television tells you. Don't believe russian, ukrainian or whatever media you'r watching. Search for facts or see with your own eyes. Then you'll be free from all the shit they are feeding you with.
MrFarover so I have to ask, where does the actual populance of crimea stand? Do they want to join russia? Additionally, how much of the kiev'en type protesters are actually neo-nazi's? During times of revolution, extremist powers tend to grow and rise through the chaos, and having neo-nazi's clawing up to power in kiev could be just as dangerous as Crimea separating from the Ukraine. I'm an american BTW I just would love to hear a perspective that isn't skewed as fuck.
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Neo-Nazis is a misnomer. They've been shit on by Moscow for years and certainly frame some of their protest in a free Ukraine, but
most of the Russian news crap about Neo-Nazis is like that rule for internet blogs, eventually in every blog someone gets called a Nazi. There is no discrimination, the Ukraine did however try to re-vitalize their language, outlawed by the Soviets (ie RUssians) for 60 years and so now they do signs in Ukrainian, passports, and the like, not Russian. Soviet colonists thus feel they are being shit on, but it's no different than using Irish place names over anglicized ones in Ireland. Go to Russia, where I live, lots of people with swastika tatoos, but 95% of people are just regular folk, and some nationalists are just that, not Nazis.
naponroy I'm hugely against swastikas, what they represent is brutal and disgusting, but I can understand what you're getting at, however even though they are normal people standing by a revolution revolving around discrimination is a wrong path to take IMO. I'm by no means rooting for the bastard putin, but I sincerely hope that the nationalist movement doesn't move towards neo-nazi elements. Also don't listen to idiots who believe that Crimea wants to separate it's so fucking obviously a goddamn hoax by Putin it's so stupid, this is like WWII all over again.
You know partisans watch these and see all ur faces. Thankyou.
I still can't believe this is allowed to happen in this day and age...
Wait until they decide to invade all of Ukraine ur mind will be blown
Nice to see you again, Simon.
I'm looking forward, as always, to your next dispatch.
The major networks seem to be about a week behind what you're reporting.
very, very serious situation, I hope that everything goes well and peacefully, let the people decide. When is the referendum?
one thing I like about is Simon Ostrovsky is his humour =)
After this dispatch I would say there're no need to continue ....Crimea is officially Russian !
haha thats what i was thinking too
just wait the referendum didn't happen yet
There will be many protests in other eastern parts of Ukraine, I guess.
well I would like to know more and see more...Well Its not end of the world that Crimea is russian...I support Ukraine and hope they will have good future...and hope so does crimeans...
Oh, But you think this ends with Crimea? :/
Another great report from yr man Simon Ostrovsky. Thanks!
Again Thanks for all your reports
Посмотрел уже десять эпизодов. Предварительные выводы:
Репортер немного прозападник, но пока из всего адского трэша в сети это наиболее приближенное к журналистике видео. Чувак просто ходит и задаёт вопросы, ничего не навязывая.
Короче, смотрим дальше.
As a spaniard, that is some really good spanish that guy had!
Shame he's a fan of Che though...
he has misunderstood in big way what Che fought for
Chas. Chan Precisely...
One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.
Prleish Literally nothing to do with Che Guevara...
Daniel Yusto Sure, whatever floats your boat. I made my point.
Thanks Simon for the report
1:13 that red bloody looking paint drops on the fence is self-described
These dispatches are some of the best journalistic work I've seen in years.
some of the worst, onesided etc......
do not bother to replay to me
@@ivitvviti859 shut up bud come fight
"You can smoke later." Lol. That's a Russian ceremony for you.
Good job man on all your documentary
2:00 yo that guy turned before he even got the order, feel like that's been rehearsed
Imagine how many of these guys are dead today
Who ever says that Russia is bad for legally taking Crimea without war, needs to learn how the US got Texas.
Or how the Mexicans got Mexico? This isn't 1845 anymore.
THAT WAS A BILLION YEARS AGO
Whataboutism
I LOVE VICE and the reporters thank you so much for this!
i love these series tbh
Thank you for your job, guys! Keep videos coming! Nikita M. from Yevpatoria, Crimea.
5:29 Chris Pontius?!?!?!
Where can I find up-to-date information about their numbers?
It is practically imposible to have objective information about whats going on, and you want up-to-date numbers?!
Gotta go with the flow
These are the guys you’ve seen in overhead drone footage.
Мужики ваще ребята!👍
man, it does not feel like it was 5 years ago that this happened
The grey suit is such a smart look these days. I need to get one.
The training of these troops is just.. petty.. We learn to do a better formation drill in 8th grade..
it was shit
Lel where did you go to school? North Korea?
Robjeysimpson they probably where to cautious to do anything else because firing a gun makes noise and then Russia will think its a threat you know but that’s just me but I would probably do the same but make them get stronger you know what am just going to shut up.....
Those people in Crimea will have to decide which side they are on because the Ukraine government isn't going to stop until it is returned.
This didnt age good
Vice are doing an amazing job of covering this conflict, all the news on TV talks about is that fucking plane that vanished which is tragic but comparatively not all that bloody important! Thanks guys
Really good video this time
Концовка традиционно торт.
Markings on the box with uniforms:
Supplier Location: Rostov-On-Don (Russia)
Property of Russian Ministry of Defense
Welp that explains it
Does this mean that these guys are working for Russia without knowing it? or what is the significance?
It means that Russia is supplying the "self defense" forces with uniforms and weapons while denying it publicly.
hypsin
Okay thanks.
5:28 he's only there for the new coat 😂
Sad and fascinating I agree
Does this remind anyone else of " The Brown Shirts" of Germany....?
The ski mask has replaced the brown shirt. Now they can take them off, stop pretending to not be Russian troops, hopefully go back "home". Maybe the Cossacks will hang around to smack around the 20% non-voters and 5% "no" voters who did vote. Oh, and the motorcycle gang leader, too...
In the Soviet Union days, these people used to be called the Useful Idiots. The ones that would enforce the rules of their masters without demanding freedom or power themselves.
These people still think that the Soviet Union exists.
Guy at 5:35 looks like Chris Pontius.
I want Simon now!!!
Amazing credit to the Ukrainians for having endless patience in this issue.
Дебил ты выростила Европа и США нацистов
"I care", the reason anybody joins any military or peacekeeping force. Honestly I don't care but am so happy there are some people out there that do and want to protect. I have no opinion on the subject of the Crimean Peninsula, I just felt the need to comment because people that care are the only ones who put themselves in the line of fire when innocent people are involved.
Well that settles that
6:49 Strzegomiański wilkołak tajfun.
To be continued.... 8 years later. We shall see what Crimeans think of Russia. Perhaps Ukraine was not perfect, few governments are. But worse than Russia?
Nobody is going to ask those "Crimeans".
They were brought on the places of the native Crimeans, who were deported by Stalin.
They were reborn under Russia, their standard of living doubled in few years. While Ukraine that claimed Crime is theirs, cut them water and electricity supply for years
They don’t even have running water anymore. Thanks Putin
Ukraine dad's army
0:04 That platoon needs work on drill
sweet jesus its like a gritty remake of Dads Army
So, here's a question: Since Crimea is (as I understand it) reliant upon infrastructural supplies from mainland Ukraine, what happens to Crimea when Ukraine cuts off those supplies if the referendum goes towards Russia?
Also, is there any international oversight (besides Russian) in the region to ensure the referendum isn't just a total joke-vote?
Also-also, how long do you reckon its gonna take for things to get bloody when they try to force the Ukrainian army to leave behind their equipment (ie, weapons)?
That's simple, Russia will tell them that if they cut off supplies to Crimea, Russia cuts off gas supplies to Ukraine.
Kostia Kaploon And when Ukraine says 'Go for it, you're now under sanctions anyway."'?
I mean, you realize this isn't much of a threat at this point, yes?
Winter's almost over, and the EU has enough gas stockpiled they can very likely supply much of Ukraine's previously-Russian imported gas for the time being.
30% of EU's nat. gas comes from Russia, sure, but 70% of Russia's energy exports go to EU (much of it through Ukraine) and their economy is already shitting the metaphorical bed - which of those two do you think is going to be hurting worse when that cut-off happens, eh?
Kostia Kaploon
I wonder how long the Russian economy would survive when they cut off 70% of their export in one go.
I've seen a report by another journalist that showed Russia is transporting telecommunication towers, electricity generators and so on through the Kerch strait into Crimea so they are preparing for that
MrVaaran
How are they paying for it?
Also: It does not matter what the referendum says. It can not become a part of Russia, international law is clear on this.
Another great report! The young Ukrainian soldier at the end summed things up best - politics and guns don't motivate, but.....spring weather and pretty girls sure do!
I feel so sorry for these folks, the common people, whose lives are forced into chaos and uncertainty by the sick greed of the TPTB from the western world.
What are you talking about western world? They didn't even care what was going on at this point. Quit waffling.
I was drinking yesterday, but I am in the army now...
5:12 he rocking ecko unlimitied 🥶🥶🥶
Some of these guys march worse than ROTC
It recruits , yesterday they were ordinary citizens and expressed their civil position to serve in the new of the Crimean self-defense and later in the Russian army, respectively .
Олег Андронов
They're thugs with Russian uniforms and weapons, I think you mean.
***** Many good men are soldiers at heart...Thugs aren't soldiers
***** Soldiers don't wear ski masks.
Sam Sales This is an attempt to protect the public from criminals from Kiev, I had in mind
I for one will be armed and ready to face the Russian forces, under no particular flag or nation.
Yeah yeah yeah, then get prepared to get blown to pieces.
Mekhail Varnamkhasti lmao
Mekhail Varnamkhasti"Be prepared to be blown to pieces". Russia's answer to everything.
Why does the camo the self defense force wearing look like Canadian CadPat?
Good job Simon.Toned down the rhetoric, keep it up.
And Harry Truman's worst mistake repeats itself.
Call it! time of death of Ukraine..with Crimea a part of Russia now Ukraine does not have any domestic natrual gas and oil so sence 40% of Ukraine's natrual gas and fuel came from Crimea and the rest of the 60% came from Russia they are now 100% dependant on Russian imports they have pretty much dug their own grave
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damn, the drilling at the start was terrible. they need to be more together.
1:21 Just like my boss at work
SLAVA UKRAINE!!!
From the news reports Putin believes in self determination for the people of Crimea and endorsed this referendum. Well if Putin is all about the peoples freedom of self determination, lets give Chechnya a referendum. Oh that's right Putin would lose land in Chechnya if they had a referendum so he wouldn't allow that.
But the people of the autonomous region of Crimea decided to hold a referendum. Why won't the usa take its base at okinawa back home?
utubewatchinhesk Unconditional surrender. What they signed says that the US needs to be there to help defend from foreign aggressors, because they cant have a real standing military.
Those Crimean Self-Defense Forces are sloppier than my goddamn cadet platoon for MCJROTC!
5:28 Chris Pontius lol
After watching a few of these, I think it is clear. I do not know enough about the people in both regions to say that this issue should be solved by any outside force, beyond those already in the region. I sincerely hope, the US and NATO sit this one out, regardless of Soviet-era treaties.
The problem is if the US and NATO sit this one out, it's not the people of the region that will "solve the issue", it will be the warlords (under Putin) who will just divide a defenseless piece of land, regardless of people.
Well not the play the ignorant American card, but I've only been alive for 23 years, and we have been at war for last 12, again, I sincerely believe this isn't our business.
This is Russia getting it's forces closer to Europe, that's the reason NATO and the US got involved in the first place. Because if Ukraine falls, next door is Poland, and that's NATO territory already. This is the start of the second cold war, let's just hope it doesn't lead to the third world one.
I really don't think it is, even under Putin, Russians have more freedom than Soviet Russia under Gorbachev, the Russian military is 1/5th the size of what is was during the 70's and 80's, there are protests in Moscow discrediting the seemingly great respect Putin has from all Russians. All of these things wouldn't be possible under the old Soviet regime. There are not proxy wars occurring currently in South America and Indochina sponsored by the West or Pro-Communist countries, and the West and Russia have gone through a period of spending cuts on military. There is also the caveat that for Ukraine to be a sovereign nation, they had to return all of their nuclear assets to Russia, in which they agreed, basically Putin is moving on a non-nuclear power, something he couldn't do with Poland. I disagree that this is another cold war, the cold war is over, and has been over since 91', what we are seeing is modern day countries being active in their own spheres of influence.
This aged so badly I think I might have a stroke.
Russian and Spanish in a way kind of sound alike
Thats way off dude!
not even.
Moe Joe Yeah i know haha i think its the accent lol idk
Two soldiers just sitting and chilling ))))
Blyatiful plum ak's at 1:33
In the current crisis over the Russian "invasion" of Crimea (is it an invasion when the population seems to want to be invaded and no violence occurs?), U.S. protests seem rather hypocritical to the world. After all, recently, the United States has attacked or invaded six countries -- Iraq, Afghanistan, and Libya using ground troops or manned aircraft and Pakistan, Yemen, and Somalia using unpiloted drone aircraft dropping bombs. In all of these instances, even if the local government directly or tacitly approved of the U.S. military action, many of the country's people did not.
If Maine wanted to join Canada but the US wouldn't let them, would it be an invasion if we went? How about Alaska. It's still an invasion
***** If it's wrong when America does it, its wrong when Russia does it. If you read the OP then my comment it would make sense instead of trolling for arguments
SliC3oFicE
Right right... But when America does it Russia sits back and watches, including the rest of the world knowing that the USA government is fueled by this sort of BULLSHIT. The Shock Doctrine; The Rise of Disaster Capitalism, read a book you trolls... And FYI Ukraine is Russia's backyard, ain't nobody gunna take that from Russia, even the people of Ukraine know this... I believe it's time that the citizens of the world finally stepped up and spoke with a unified voice against this sort of BS(oh UN UN... fuck UN, it's just a group of bullies/gangsters worsening the situation in the world)... People waken ze up. If yall wanna collaborate, yall know where I'm at.
Russia's history begins in Ukraine, so it would be naive to say that it is not Her backyard.
I'll be honest with you, I think Putin is the devil, but so is Obama; people get too caught up in the politica and feel like they must jump in to defend their side... But hear this... People, in general, want the exact same things; peace, wealth and love... The greed of the individuals governing any place in the world deserves not to represent its people.
I don't think bloodshed is required for humanities future, we can all come to harmony by ridding the world of these evil individuals that talk about UN or EU or any other governing body... We are but products in the machine.. Waging war for people we don't know, for reasons we don't truly understand... Maybe its time for change... Not that Obamanation kind of change but something real and positive...
I look forward to hearing from you :D
Osama Binladen A lot of nations history begins in others backyards, but if you read of some of the mistreatment that happened to the Ukraine under the Stalins rule, you can see why they would be reluctant to go back to Russia and instead want to give the EU a try.
I like how trendys in the west don't see themselves as fascist, but the real world does.
Hahahahahahaha
God bless you
4 years later here I am watching this all again, and I just realized how fucking cringe these defense forces really are.
You can smoke later, in formation without siggarets. That this even needs to be said tells a lot.
Крым - русская земля
Krim is russia territory
크림반도는 러시아의 영토입니다
クリミア自治共和国はロシアの領土です。
from korea.
Russia much better than America, you just eat hamburger! uncle sam>?
well your in the wrong korea than huh.
SovietProject1989*
so you havent checked out North Korea happy camps recently havent you?
*****
Yes my friend, I am transmitting this highly dangerous data to you thru my Personal Computer from 1994 that works on human feces. I need to be careful because the allmighty Propoganda Soldiers that are equipped with soviet laser technology will find me and feed me to the drunken bears in Siberia.
These soldiers were brave up until the end. I salute them. It would have been suicide to have continued resisting the Russians, and it was smart to choose life.
Glory to Pooh-tin and his mafia - today Crimea voted to be under them: free hot dogs and beer for everyone ! Maybe Yanukovych will eventually get his mansion and pirate ship restaurant back. A civil war avoided, but at what cost ?
Go fuck yourself if you're for Putin. That's my country.
A good army is a disciplined army.
3:05 that is Che!
Russia is the best! Join your family Ukraine and get over it!
lol the Russian army cant even march as one.
ROFL! Get out of your hole and go explore it. Only China competes against it.
Drij1986 It is not the Russian army , the green recruits citizens of Crimea aimed at the protection of public order.
Moe Joe, you are right!
Such family that threats hes own relative with death if they dont act like slaves
local drunkards swear the oath to protect other drunkards in the area. They really fit in perfectly into Dictatorland a.k.a russia
That wasn’t a very professional army there at the beginning huh?
I wouldn’t trust any of them with a gun
I wonder if they'll regret their decision to join Russia when they are forced to pay 1,000 rubles for a loaf of bread.
whats crazy is most of the dudes in this video are probably dead by now
Dont lie how do you know
@@zimbabwepapiede926 maybe because ukraine lost like 150k kia
0:32 what a boss skipping a step
I'm also skipping steps for years now, I always do that, its much faster than the normal way so why not?
It's interesting to see how laid back they seem versus the US troops and army.