The Schlieffen was based on the GK 5041 design known as the Schnelle Großekampfschiffe GK 5041. The GK 5041 design was considered as the ultimate battlecruiser, weighing at 50,482 tons, being the biggest of all battlecruisers in the Reichsmarine (German Navy during World War 1). The ship was armed with 8 x 420 mm/50 SK L/50 on a Drh LC/1918 Mount, along with 8 dual-mounted 150mm/55 C/28 on a Dop. C/36 mount, 4 dual-mounted 105mm/65 C/33 on a Dop. L. C31 mount, and 8 dual-mounted 105mm/65 SK C/33 on a Dop. L. C/37 mount. Unfortunately, the construction of these ships was canceled at the end of World War 1. These design-studies were about the future all-big-gun-shipbuilding of the German Navy. The origin was a demand of the Emperor end of 1915 following a discussion about the replacement of the sunk armored cruiser Prinz Adalbert, which should have been replaced by a modern Battlecruiser of 7 the times costs (one of the later Yorck's). Tirpitz and the fleet tried to reject this discussion during the war, cause of legal problems about the approval by the parliament and cause of capacity lacks (the engineers of the design-department were needed for submarine and small craft design and was short at all, cause the army drafted a lot of them since August 1914). Not at least this rejection was a reason for the dismissal of Tirpitz in spring 1916. His successor, v. Capelle, was more to the will of the Emperor and so shortly before Jutland a number of design-studies were discussed (GK1-3, improvements of the Mackensen-Type with 15" and L1-L3 improvements of the Baden-type, elongated and faster). After the experiences of Jutland a vast discussion with plenty new ideas and designs started that last until the end of the war and some of these studies were far developed and represent possible new crafts of a German post-war fleet. Part of the discussion was also the question, if the two types BC and BB should and could be combined in a fast Battleship type. This was not an easy question, because the draft and beam of such a ship needed an extension of the harbor-locks in Wilhelmshaven and also of the dry-docks. Just some floating docks could keep such big ships. Another problem was that the waterways along the coasts and embouchures need to be digged out for them. The 42cm-gun (16.5") projected for those designs was under pre-development by Krupp since late 1916. So it is pretty sure that this caliber would have come after the war. Site: www.dreadnoughtproject.org/plans/SM_Studienentwurf/
@@IXI_FX Schlieffen is based on GK 5041. But in the game, it was hypothetically built with new boilers, engines, and superstructure. Had if World War 1 extended, the GK 5041 would have survived and proceeded with construction.
Something else to add for those that dont: the torpedo tubes like the previous bb bc's, is that youre very very likely to lose at least 1, most likely lose BOTH launchers on a side. Ive had games where on one side i lost BOTH launchers, oooof
Im at 16/2 for von hipper and haruna and 16/3 for ciliax. I wonder how Henrique pushed that range. I get 12.5 on bis b with him and that’s not max. I don’t think it’s worth it solo but a div of FULL RANGE schleiffans would be terrifying
Sparty! this will be my next bureau ship, she's in the dockyard as we speak. I run Hyde too in the battlecruisers and am happy with him, seems a good build. I've really enjoyed the second line of German BBs way more than I expected even more than my Bismark which was my favourite tier 7 for a long time. So really looking forward to the Schiffy. Great review thanks
It didn’t make much money for the amount of damage it dished out but noticed recently that tier 8 and legendary don’t pay out much unless your in a cruiser
got into a training room with my gf and a friend and told them both to face my schlieffen, gf who only got gk and montana unlocked chose gk and my friend chose yamato. the ridiculius ice breaker on schlieffen allowed me to bowtank the yami while hammering the gk with both main and secondaries. end result being i obliterated the gami with almost only citadel salvos and the did a drive by torp run on the gk ending the match with approx 75-80% hp left. schlieffen is a beast
Kinda regretting that I took a few months break, missed a few good ships through campaigns and I’m behind on my bureau. Just two stages in on this girl.
I’m about to unlock this ship in like 10 days , im thinking of looking for a division of Schelifwns in the mean time so I can run 3 scheliefens at once
I really do not get along with the German Battelcruisers, I have having limited DC Parties and not having the armour that a Battleship would have. Maybe they'll grow on me at some point.
I think Lepanto is almost as broken with 10km sap secondaries it's insane.because they pen alot more Spartan can u do a full secondaries build video on Lepanto next?
@@SpartanElite43 awesome I love ur videos spartan u always put on a good show or great teaching moments. I really appreciate ur time and effort. Since I found ur channel during wows legends beta.👍
Depends on situation if the secondaries are only shooting at one target per side then focusing that target does nothing. It is meant to help focus low health ships or a DD when there are multiple targets in secondary range on same side of the ship
Good video I think this well be my next project I am working on the Kaga had the needed ships, May other spot is Vermont I did get Vermont I got the silver in a few free crates to get it plus I have all the needed ships for it. I was doing Columbo but lacked 2 gate ships so stopped it for Vermont as Italian ships are so hard for me to use and grained up the BBs for the gates is low on my list.
@@SpartanElite43 I think I well as said had the needed ships unlike the other projects to make it easy. Also I think Vermont could shine when area comes around again.
I don't think it's OP, The range of the main guns is poor compared to other Legendary BBs. So to counter, you just have to keep it at arm's length. I keep thinking of the Destiny analogy where people complain about shot gun apes rushing around the map one shot killing everyone as being a low skill weapon, but the skill comes from the approach, how and when to get in close without getting focus fired.
I stop the Projekt after 2 Segments, why I don't trust this ship. After your video I start the project again. I don't trust war gaming, but I trust king Spartan. I think now it's a good vessel. God save the king. Haha. Hold on for your fantastic entertainment Spartan. Fingercross from germany. 🇺🇸🇩🇪👌
Spartan put the epic secondary mod on lepanto it’s secondaries load so fast it’s not even funny and they deal way more consistent damage than schliefens secondaries
The Schlieffen was based on the GK 5041 design known as the Schnelle Großekampfschiffe GK 5041. The GK 5041 design was considered as the ultimate battlecruiser, weighing at 50,482 tons, being the biggest of all battlecruisers in the Reichsmarine (German Navy during World War 1). The ship was armed with 8 x 420 mm/50 SK L/50 on a Drh LC/1918 Mount, along with 8 dual-mounted 150mm/55 C/28 on a Dop. C/36 mount, 4 dual-mounted 105mm/65 C/33 on a Dop. L. C31 mount, and 8 dual-mounted 105mm/65 SK C/33 on a Dop. L. C/37 mount. Unfortunately, the construction of these ships was canceled at the end of World War 1.
These design-studies were about the future all-big-gun-shipbuilding of the German Navy. The origin was a demand of the Emperor end of 1915 following a discussion about the replacement of the sunk armored cruiser Prinz Adalbert, which should have been replaced by a modern Battlecruiser of 7 the times costs (one of the later Yorck's). Tirpitz and the fleet tried to reject this discussion during the war, cause of legal problems about the approval by the parliament and cause of capacity lacks (the engineers of the design-department were needed for submarine and small craft design and was short at all, cause the army drafted a lot of them since August 1914). Not at least this rejection was a reason for the dismissal of Tirpitz in spring 1916. His successor, v. Capelle, was more to the will of the Emperor and so shortly before Jutland a number of design-studies were discussed (GK1-3, improvements of the Mackensen-Type with 15" and L1-L3 improvements of the Baden-type, elongated and faster).
After the experiences of Jutland a vast discussion with plenty new ideas and designs started that last until the end of the war and some of these studies were far developed and represent possible new crafts of a German post-war fleet. Part of the discussion was also the question, if the two types BC and BB should and could be combined in a fast Battleship type. This was not an easy question, because the draft and beam of such a ship needed an extension of the harbor-locks in Wilhelmshaven and also of the dry-docks. Just some floating docks could keep such big ships. Another problem was that the waterways along the coasts and embouchures need to be digged out for them. The 42cm-gun (16.5") projected for those designs was under pre-development by Krupp since late 1916. So it is pretty sure that this caliber would have come after the war.
Site: www.dreadnoughtproject.org/plans/SM_Studienentwurf/
Wow, that’s about the best addendum I’ve seen, thanks man! The whole reason I started playing warships was because of my love of the history.
You did it on the ruppercht too😂
This isn't about the schlieffen
@@IXI_FX Schlieffen is based on GK 5041. But in the game, it was hypothetically built with new boilers, engines, and superstructure. Had if World War 1 extended, the GK 5041 would have survived and proceeded with construction.
Something else to add for those that dont: the torpedo tubes like the previous bb bc's, is that youre very very likely to lose at least 1, most likely lose BOTH launchers on a side. Ive had games where on one side i lost BOTH launchers, oooof
Same 🤬
I love this ship, have Ciliax,Von Hipper and Haruna all at 16/4
Lol insane, im on the way to it😃
Im at 16/2 for von hipper and haruna and 16/3 for ciliax. I wonder how Henrique pushed that range. I get 12.5 on bis b with him and that’s not max. I don’t think it’s worth it solo but a div of FULL RANGE schleiffans would be terrifying
@@ciroc_lobster4052 We have gone out in a 3 Schleiffen division and it's just insane, anything in secondary range is getting wrecked, and fast.
Whats your secondary range with all 16/4
Sparty! this will be my next bureau ship, she's in the dockyard as we speak. I run Hyde too in the battlecruisers and am happy with him, seems a good build. I've really enjoyed the second line of German BBs way more than I expected even more than my Bismark which was my favourite tier 7 for a long time. So really looking forward to the Schiffy. Great review thanks
Oh yeah the battlecruisers are way more fun imo
what tear is the schlieffen
what tear is the schlieffen
It didn’t make much money for the amount of damage it dished out but noticed recently that tier 8 and legendary don’t pay out much unless your in a cruiser
Tier 8 and legendary have really high service cost so you tend to earn less silver
I really, really wish Wargaming would create a flag with an image of a propeller beanie...
I love it too. Before petro showed up i was playing it heavy. Havent touched it since. Lol.
got into a training room with my gf and a friend and told them both to face my schlieffen, gf who only got gk and montana unlocked chose gk and my friend chose yamato. the ridiculius ice breaker on schlieffen allowed me to bowtank the yami while hammering the gk with both main and secondaries. end result being i obliterated the gami with almost only citadel salvos and the did a drive by torp run on the gk ending the match with approx 75-80% hp left. schlieffen is a beast
Kinda regretting that I took a few months break, missed a few good ships through campaigns and I’m behind on my bureau. Just two stages in on this girl.
Having all the fun in the world in that ship looking at segment 5 out of 12 lol
I love this ship as well...Hyde is also the cap for me!!
I just got haruna yesterday finally after spending to much on crates lol learned my lesson just pay 20 for her
When we gunna get a triple schlieffen video on a two brothers mid push?
That would be insane
I’m about to unlock this ship in like 10 days , im thinking of looking for a division of Schelifwns in the mean time so I can run 3 scheliefens at once
@@tzarcaz_4385 I would like to take part
By the time I get back from vacation in mid July, or so I should finally have this ship! (Farewell gk)
Can't wait for this ship, i'm about just under 2 stages left
Me n my mate have it. Nasty secondaries when there’s 2 of ya lol
I really do not get along with the German Battelcruisers, I have having limited DC Parties and not having the armour that a Battleship would have. Maybe they'll grow on me at some point.
I think Lepanto is almost as broken with 10km sap secondaries it's insane.because they pen alot more
Spartan can u do a full secondaries build video on Lepanto next?
Actually am doing a Lepanto video for tomorrow
@@SpartanElite43 awesome I love ur videos spartan u always put on a good show or great teaching moments. I really appreciate ur time and effort. Since I found ur channel during wows legends beta.👍
can we talk about the 8 shimas!!?! 8 ships × 15 torps per ship = 120 nuclear tops flying around the game at Mach 10 😅
Do you have to get 30K with the secondaries or a combination of everything?
I think its just damage overall
30k overall damage
Roger that
8k torps,in the pc version mine has 13.5k range on my torps, its already been nerfed for consols.
I wish I had more aggressive teammates to play with
Cannot wait to get this ship! Gonna be so much fun! (until carriers)
We need more from this ship!
45k is damn impressive 50 would be f’in great
Those secondaries are freaking nasty!!!!
curious as to why you never target selected for the secondaries on anything. just curious
Depends on situation if the secondaries are only shooting at one target per side then focusing that target does nothing.
It is meant to help focus low health ships or a DD when there are multiple targets in secondary range on same side of the ship
I gotta 50k salvo with this thing on a broadside Stalingrad
Good video I think this well be my next project I am working on the Kaga had the needed ships, May other spot is Vermont I did get Vermont I got the silver in a few free crates to get it plus I have all the needed ships for it. I was doing Columbo but lacked 2 gate ships so stopped it for Vermont as Italian ships are so hard for me to use and grained up the BBs for the gates is low on my list.
Hope you enjoy
@@SpartanElite43 I think I well as said had the needed ships unlike the other projects to make it easy. Also I think Vermont could shine when area comes around again.
I'm getting the GK Gonna be my first Legendary ship but I Will get Those ship soon
Hi Spartan, will you be doing a Petro vid soon?
It will take time as tier 8s are so expensive
I Got My KMS SCHLIEFFEN On Pay Day After I Got KMS ÄGIR 😃. I Just Boosted My Last Stage For SCHLIEFFEN 😃
Spartan can you play this game with two controllers or just one? Thank you sir.
Just one that I know of
@@SpartanElite43 ty for this wonderful information
Great review! As usuaI have to say, and the Schlieffen is a monster and fantastic BB:
Glad you enjoyed
Hey spartan have you tried the constellation?
Not yet
Hi.Spartan
I just got the yamato what is the best way to play that battleship.
At range, push with a team, know how and when to push with a team
Check out some of my Yama vids to see how I play it.
There's too much to try and type out in a comment.
Congrats and hope you enjoy.
I don't think it's OP, The range of the main guns is poor compared to other Legendary BBs. So to counter, you just have to keep it at arm's length.
I keep thinking of the Destiny analogy where people complain about shot gun apes rushing around the map one shot killing everyone as being a low skill weapon, but the skill comes from the approach, how and when to get in close without getting focus fired.
There between 40 to 60k people playing wow per week so it’s entirely possible to hit 50k subscribers
YES! FINALLY!
What makes this better than FDG or GK?
Torpedoes, more consistent main guns, and more accurate secondaries
Like the Irish female guise says here for a good time not a long time
bonjour , comment faut il faire pour avoir des mods epiques ,
Epic mods are currently in testing and haven't been re-released yet
I stop the Projekt after 2 Segments, why I don't trust this ship. After your video I start the project again. I don't trust war gaming, but I trust king Spartan. I think now it's a good vessel. God save the king. Haha. Hold on for your fantastic entertainment Spartan. Fingercross from germany. 🇺🇸🇩🇪👌
Great video Spartan.
Wil have it in 2 days ❤😊
I’m averaging about 500 secondary hits per match 😂🎉such a meme ship omg 😂
Can be nasty
How to get the Epic secedary mod?
Currently they are unavailable
Spartan put the epic secondary mod on lepanto it’s secondaries load so fast it’s not even funny and they deal way more consistent damage than schliefens secondaries
I may have to try that out
Is Haruna actually in the store?
Keep an eye out for Arpegio of blue steel collabs to come back
@@SpartanElite43 sweet she’s on my short “Need” list
time for the memes
Meet the Schleiffen?!? 🎀
😂
I asked and he gave👍🏻
A like and a comment.
gg
I get 16000 somthin in my yammy 😊
Hi
Hi
Nice video 👍i like it 🫡
Third or forth😉😋
Hi idk third or second 😂😂
First
DILLIGAF
Noice
First🎉
Too late bro you were beat by a minute
DILLIGAF
Not quite but close