really great, fair analysis mate..enjoy people sharing their well educated opinions. Although not a Luton fan, have a soft spot for them and was hoping they would kick on again in the championship.
You gotta remember Barkley was probably on a small term contract and there was probably a relegation clause, considering we got him for a free and sold him a year later it payed for his wages and a profit yes we have been in the prem but we haven’t got as much money as you think we are building a new stadium
Hello Jacob. Thank you for you blog. It is very interesting listening to someone that is Genuinely giving their opinion from an outside point of view. I can understand much that you say, and some things could tweak the current situation into a more positive mode. However, if you had the current embarrassment and frustration of being a Luton supporter 24/7, your suggestions may be trying to stop the damage more that seeing what is causing it. I fear that far more blame can rightly be placed at the feet of Edwards than can be seen from an outside point of view. Edwards took a 95% complete Luton up to the premier. However, the style Luton played and most of the players were inherited by Edwards. Whether Luton won, drew or Lost, we were just happy to be there. If the minimum amounts of points and fines were deducted from other teams, like they should have been, then we may have stayed up, it was that close. The other main reason Luton was relegated was due to a lack of playing staff. Yes, players like Ross Barkley really help, however if look at Luton’s history, we have many quality layers go through our books and any one or two players are not what we rely on, it is teamwork and energy together with professionalism. We played many premier games with 50 to 75% of our main players out and injured. With a little more experience and being able change a few players we could have stayed up. There was very little wrong with the way we played. The main issue we have now is that Edwards is trying to make Luton play in a boring possessive defensive way and not the normal attacking way that we are known for. On top of this he is playing many of our players in the wrong position and not the places that they excel in. They look as though they do not know how to play, it is awful. Even if Edwards could make it work, it would probably be boring. I would rather be excited losing than bored winning. If we lose against Watford and do not win the majority of the following four games, then I wish Edwards all the best in his future employment away from Luton. We are Luton and want to stay that way.
Really insightful commentary. If it wasn’t for Kaminski, Luton would be bottom. Little to do with the outgoings (including Barkley), little bit more to do with disastrously managed last minute window, massively to do with Edwards’ indulging himself in Man City-type play when Luton doesn’t have MC quality - resulting in players being out of position, absurd formations and and thereby sucking out the team’s energy, passion and team motivation. So, sub-standard leadership on and off the pitch.
The fans have gone Prawn Sandwich since we introduced safe standing to the tight Oak Road end giving away fans an extra 300 capacity which seems to make them louder. Away teams now love away days at the Kenny before the fear of their lives was installed by the home fans. 12th man make noise for Edwards boys
Sell cheap, we got 8 million for Ogbene who we payed £0 and to be honest if Ipswich would have offered a fiver it was a no brainer to sell him. Massively overrated. We'll still be there or there abouts at the end of the season.
You've said a few things wrong before the 10min mark in the video, after the 10mins you've said some truth by using the data. We made a lot of money from players sales. The most in the clubs history. The reason why the amount of money spent wasn't as high due to the signings we made last year. As players were deemed top end Championship players, like Chong, Kaminski, Nakamba. It's far too early to judge our transfers after 9 games, also the way we're playing doesn't help the situation. You're a little bit wrong about the Barkley situation. You're not going to get a Ross Barkley in the Championship or even get close. We signed someone a little similar, but he's not the level of Barkley, which is Baptise. Not Krauss like you mentioned. Morris has been injured, so Adebayo has to play, unless we change the formation to fit others. Regards to Rob Edwards, the football is getting worse, since we've played Millwall away, we could've lost 4 or 5 in every game. Sheffield United he played 4/5 out of position. He didn't actually needed to make many tactical changes, he's over complicated it. Rob has two games left, the our derby against Watford and then Sunderland after.
@@LewisWilliamsLTFC a lot of the things you say I got wrong I mentioned I may have in the video, I said I wasn’t sure if Krauß was definitely the replacement which is why I talked about lokonga. I understand you won’t get a Barkley in the champ which is why you needed to get more money for him, imo. The morris and Adebayo partnership wasn’t a slight against Edwards for him not playing, just an observation as to why Adebayo may not be performing. Appreciate the feedback, do feel like I covered the things you mentioned tho!
@@jacobhorsfallthere was things in place in the contract for Barkley. He doesn’t sign for Luton without a few clauses in place. Some of us didn’t think we was getting anything
Sorry to say this but this video is generally wrong in every which way mate. I’m sure you put a lot of effort into this but you don’t seem to actually have a clue as to our situation bar some very very basic research.
@@jacobhorsfall a vast majority ie selling on the cheap, Adebayo not performing due to not having Morris generally the reason we aren’t doing well doesn’t require a huge amount of analysis it’s just down to absolutely god awful tactics.
@@jacobhorsfallwhat’s selling cheap? Ipswich overpaid massively for Ogbene, and we was lucky to get that much from Barkley. Osho was out of contract, and we made our money back on Giles.
@@jacobhorsfall but we didn’t sell cheap whatsoever 8 million for Ogbene who was pretty shite and good money for a 31 year old signed on a free is not selling it n the cheap mate
really great, fair analysis mate..enjoy people sharing their well educated opinions. Although not a Luton fan, have a soft spot for them and was hoping they would kick on again in the championship.
You gotta remember Barkley was probably on a small term contract and there was probably a relegation clause, considering we got him for a free and sold him a year later it payed for his wages and a profit yes we have been in the prem but we haven’t got as much money as you think we are building a new stadium
Very fair
Hello Jacob. Thank you for you blog. It is very interesting listening to someone that is Genuinely giving their opinion from an outside point of view. I can understand much that you say, and some things could tweak the current situation into a more positive mode. However, if you had the current embarrassment and frustration of being a Luton supporter 24/7, your suggestions may be trying to stop the damage more that seeing what is causing it. I fear that far more blame can rightly be placed at the feet of Edwards than can be seen from an outside point of view. Edwards took a 95% complete Luton up to the premier. However, the style Luton played and most of the players were inherited by Edwards. Whether Luton won, drew or Lost, we were just happy to be there. If the minimum amounts of points and fines were deducted from other teams, like they should have been, then we may have stayed up, it was that close. The other main reason Luton was relegated was due to a lack of playing staff. Yes, players like Ross Barkley really help, however if look at Luton’s history, we have many quality layers go through our books and any one or two players are not what we rely on, it is teamwork and energy together with professionalism. We played many premier games with 50 to 75% of our main players out and injured. With a little more experience and being able change a few players we could have stayed up. There was very little wrong with the way we played. The main issue we have now is that Edwards is trying to make Luton play in a boring possessive defensive way and not the normal attacking way that we are known for. On top of this he is playing many of our players in the wrong position and not the places that they excel in. They look as though they do not know how to play, it is awful. Even if Edwards could make it work, it would probably be boring. I would rather be excited losing than bored winning. If we lose against Watford and do not win the majority of the following four games, then I wish Edwards all the best in his future employment away from Luton. We are Luton and want to stay that way.
Well put lad
I'm a Luton supporter and completely agree with @packableenquiries4150
If rob Edwards looked like steve cooper hed have been sacked
I think they can and will turn it arround this year. The talent is too much to be this much rubbish. Appreciate the great content mate, keep it up!
Rob Edwards style of play needs more time, rewarded with long term contract, I'm trusting the process. 💪🐝
Jacob why did you like this wind up comment from a poor little hornet?
Oh it’s so nice to watch 🐝🐝
I bet it isn't anymore
Really insightful commentary. If it wasn’t for Kaminski, Luton would be bottom. Little to do with the outgoings (including Barkley), little bit more to do with disastrously managed last minute window, massively to do with Edwards’ indulging himself in Man City-type play when Luton doesn’t have MC quality - resulting in players being out of position, absurd formations and and thereby sucking out the team’s energy, passion and team motivation. So, sub-standard leadership on and off the pitch.
The fans have gone Prawn Sandwich since we introduced safe standing to the tight Oak Road end giving away fans an extra 300 capacity which seems to make them louder. Away teams now love away days at the Kenny before the fear of their lives was installed by the home fans. 12th man make noise for Edwards boys
Sell cheap, we got 8 million for Ogbene who we payed £0 and to be honest if Ipswich would have offered a fiver it was a no brainer to sell him. Massively overrated. We'll still be there or there abouts at the end of the season.
What was annoying is Fred was released he could of held that position in the Championship had we known we were losing Ogbene
Selles nooo was he the kit man?
You've said a few things wrong before the 10min mark in the video, after the 10mins you've said some truth by using the data.
We made a lot of money from players sales. The most in the clubs history. The reason why the amount of money spent wasn't as high due to the signings we made last year. As players were deemed top end Championship players, like Chong, Kaminski, Nakamba. It's far too early to judge our transfers after 9 games, also the way we're playing doesn't help the situation. You're a little bit wrong about the Barkley situation. You're not going to get a Ross Barkley in the Championship or even get close. We signed someone a little similar, but he's not the level of Barkley, which is Baptise. Not Krauss like you mentioned. Morris has been injured, so Adebayo has to play, unless we change the formation to fit others. Regards to Rob Edwards, the football is getting worse, since we've played Millwall away, we could've lost 4 or 5 in every game. Sheffield United he played 4/5 out of position. He didn't actually needed to make many tactical changes, he's over complicated it. Rob has two games left, the our derby against Watford and then Sunderland after.
@@LewisWilliamsLTFC a lot of the things you say I got wrong I mentioned I may have in the video, I said I wasn’t sure if Krauß was definitely the replacement which is why I talked about lokonga. I understand you won’t get a Barkley in the champ which is why you needed to get more money for him, imo. The morris and Adebayo partnership wasn’t a slight against Edwards for him not playing, just an observation as to why Adebayo may not be performing.
Appreciate the feedback, do feel like I covered the things you mentioned tho!
@@jacobhorsfallthere was things in place in the contract for Barkley. He doesn’t sign for Luton without a few clauses in place. Some of us didn’t think we was getting anything
Give edwards time.
I reckon you should sell the first team and keep edwards.
Clearly its the players and not the coach
Cheers to England's most overrated fairy tale, the fourth team to go from non league to the top flight
Sorry to say this but this video is generally wrong in every which way mate. I’m sure you put a lot of effort into this but you don’t seem to actually have a clue as to our situation bar some very very basic research.
@@gxsx5584 what would you say is wrong?
@@jacobhorsfall a vast majority ie selling on the cheap, Adebayo not performing due to not having Morris generally the reason we aren’t doing well doesn’t require a huge amount of analysis it’s just down to absolutely god awful tactics.
@@gxsx5584 you did sell cheap tho? And I didn’t say Adebayo wasn’t performing due to Morris I just suggested maybe it’s a factor!
@@jacobhorsfallwhat’s selling cheap? Ipswich overpaid massively for Ogbene, and we was lucky to get that much from Barkley. Osho was out of contract, and we made our money back on Giles.
@@jacobhorsfall but we didn’t sell cheap whatsoever 8 million for Ogbene who was pretty shite and good money for a 31 year old signed on a free is not selling it n the cheap mate