Laziest thing to say is “how does Randle fit” it’s absurd. Just watch what the Knicks were doing in January last year when they were 12-2 with Randle, OG and JB. Ridiculous at this point. When the Knicks are dominating, yall will come back and say they’re a loaded super team roster. Lmao.
@@jordang716 and then they gaslight and try to make Knicks fans seem delusional 💀. Same people tried to act like our starters in the playoffs weren’t literally our bench guys who had to play starters minutes because of Randle and OG/Mitchell being hurt. They just talk to talk 🤣🤣
Randle has a clear role on the team. He’s one of 2 players on the roster that can create shots and is an absolute beast in the paint. While Randle should absolutely start it would be a huge boost for the Knicks to give him a lot of time with the second unit as a point forward running the offense
How do you question Randle when he's the constant. Hart has been a bench player. And will return to the bench. Dante will be the odd man because he earned his starting minutes over grimes b4 he left. But he came here as a bench player as well. Everyone cant start. Theres no issue save for a false narrative. Teams win championships with strong benches. This is an asset not a liability. How can Randles fit be questioned when the only change on the team is Bridges. How can it be questioned with him in the lineup they went 12-2. The issue is not seeing the floor holistically but thinking about players in pieces.
There is that but now with Bridges also in that lineup it does get a little bit trickier. I'd give it a 60% chance that Randle does fit in the starting lineup and a 40% chance he doesn't but they still play him there anyway
@@basketballreach I don't think so. Bridges does the same thing as Dante with more options to score. You can look this stat up. Dante shot a higher % from 3 when he played with Randle. He was open more because Randle drew the double team. Go look at Bridges highlights. He's in the corner. He will either shoot the 3 or take the rotating player off the dribble and has the ability to knock down the midrange. This will actually cause more ball movement because when he drives he will cause defenses to collapse. Or the open 3. We don't have to scheme for him. The only issue is if Randle is affected by the shoulder and doesn't command a double team anymore. Guess what. He is a 2b option now. Bridges 2a. He takes you off the dribble, Randle is open as the ball rotates and most 4 defenders are slower than him. He still has the strength to over power most of the people rim protecting. Randle and Bridges will be at the line alot. My opinion
Randle opens up the game for everyone with his ability to create his own shot & Pass he's going to be the perfect fit. With his ability to draw defenders in the paint he can give open looks to Brunson, Bridges, & Anuoby.
In theory that sounds nice but Randle isn't an elite passer and not only that but his overall court vision was part of why he was struggling so badly at the start of last season
@@basketballreachNo he struggled at the start of last season because he was coming off 2 angle surgeries and didn't have an off season or a proper training camp. His passing has always been good, his problem is decision making off a double team, but when he decides to pass, there's only a few PF better than him
This is a team with tremendous flexibility in defense and offensive. They will be exciting to watch. But to dethrone the Celtics in the east, they need a healthy and robust Mitch and a solid backup. I have been a Knicks fan for multiple decades, this is definitely a team that has most potential and compelling reasons to root for.
Also disagree with “you can’t get away with Julius at center” with Deuce mikal OG hart there won’t be many shots at the rim from dribble penetration - and what center besides embiid does he actually need to guard?
Firstly I agree with the fact that the Knicks perimeter defense will be elite once again but that doesn't mean there won't be any looks at the rim. The Mavericks ate the Thunder alive at the basket with alley oops last post season even though OKC's outside defense had been great
Then as for other centers Randle would have to guard I'd say AD, Jokic and Sabonis in the west and in the east Porzingis when healthy will need guarding along with Giannis when the Bucks go small then Myles Turner and Bam Adebayo can also get it going
@basketballreach yeah but this is back up center not starting. Also it's circumstantial based on match ups. You named about 5 people. If we played all of them twice that's 10. We play the east coast teams more let's say 14 games. Its an experiment.
You do realize Randle dropped 46 on Sabonis? Also Randle has gotten 18 boards on Sabonis. Not to mention Ad , when Julius versus him their numbers are identical. AD primarily gaurds Randle when they verse each other. I don't want randle playing center because it makes no sense height wise but he wouldn't just be some push over.
Randle doesn't have to play defense against a center anyway, OG can switch on D and do that easily. He gave Embiid fits when he was matched up against OG
Leon Rose has a plan for sure. Every year since he’s been running the show, he makes a mid season trade that’s always followed by a win streak and an incredible second half of the season. The signings he’s making are stacking trade chips. He’s gonna evaluate the first half of the season and then make a trade at the deadline to solve the center rotation issue. If anybody is gonna beat the Celtics, it’s gonna be the Knicks.
Facts also I believe that the Milwaukee Bucks have a perfectly constructed team to challenge Boston as the Celtics have no answer for Giannis coming down hill
@@basketballreach No they don't. Dame isn't the same scorer he is, and Middleton's health and availability cannot be relied upon. GTJ isn't going to move the needle for them. Celtics' coaching and overall shooting ability just runs laps around the bucks and everybody else.
Teir one contender I think. The defense will be awesome regardless of who is at center even if it will be much better with Mitch Thibbs has consistantley gotten the most out of his center play and i so no reason why this center room is any worse than the 2021 unit that they got a top seed with.
There's no reason to question who is going to start. Why? Josh Hart brings energy, speed, defense & the ability to get out in transition. Donte DiVincenzo is a good defender & 3 point shooter. Neither of them is consistent in terms of scoring which is why Jalen Brunson had to average almost 40 for the team to win. They are good, but are better coming off the bench. As for Julius Randle? You mentioned that before he got injured, the team was winning easily. So why would it be any different now? Randle fits well with the Knicks. He can: pass very well, get out in transition, cut to the rim for passes that lead to easy baskets on the run, post up, finish on ally oops, finish on pick n' rolls, drive to the rim and shoot some 3s. Basically he can create offense for others, create offense for himself or finish well off passes from others. Randle is the perfect fit for a team that moves the ball, runs, is athletic and creates turnovers. In fact, it should be easier for him this season because Mikal Bridges will draw defenders and OG Anunoby and Donte DiVincenzo can shoot 3s which can spread the floor and make it easier for Randle and others to drive to the rim. (That's probably why the Knicks added more 3 point shooters, by the way.) Plus OG Anunoby and Josh Hart can get the team out in transition which would also make scoring easier for him. In fact, if Thibs speeds up the pace, Randle should be able to score with little effort since it will be more difficult to double team him with Mikal Bridges & Jalen Brunson waiting to catch the ball.
Nice vid, still trying to see how when you describe unathletic when referring to Brunson ofc being a athlete if more than dunking what he does on the court is nothing short of athletic
@@basketballreach I'm not sure I follow. Randle's best basketball (arguably of his career) came in January 2024 following the OG Anunoby trade. Adding Mikal Bridges to this is going to be overkill.
Mitchell Robinson is a great option at center but the Knicks will still need a backup not only in case he gets injured again but also because they need someone off the bench. Dwight Howard and Boogie are sitting and waiting for a team to sign them and for whatever reason nobody will 😔
That’s ideal, but that’s also counting on Mitch playing 70+ games. I don’t think he’s done that his whole career. Sims is gonna have to step up, Hukporti be a revelation; or we need to pick up another big body glass cleaner. Anyway Knicks all day 💪🏾
Yea i agree. I mean the knicks were winning games completely based on offensive rebounding which gave them many second chance points. Hartenstein combined with Mitchell Robinson simply out rebounded every team. Without this advantage the Knicks are pretty average imo.
Those centers are beyond awful. There was nothing available. Inserting a bum center could cause as much damage as not playing him at all. The good choices like Kessler was a smoke by ainge. He wasn't close to trading him. And Robinson is an elite center. No question about that. The only question is his health. But that holds true for every team. Like Philly without embiid, Indy without Hali, Pels without Zion, nuggets with jokic, thunder without SGA, etc
@puglover8171 that's why you have depth. Randle only gets hurt on freak occurrences. OG gets a lot of non contact injuries. Hukporti gets in the mix if something happens to Mitch. Precious and Mook also eats up a lot of minutes at the 5. I Hart can be replaced
I just don't know if Randle will actually fit on this Knicks team full stop. Now there is a chance that he will be just fine in his normal role and having Donte and Hart of the bench will be great but similar to the Suns with the idea of Beal coming off the bench I just don't see it happening. Both the Suns and Knicks pay Beal and Randle too much to let them just come off the bench
for a team that doesn’t really have another true PF to bench a player who was an all-star just last season is a really bad take. having someone agree with your bad take doesn’t make it better.
@@headcontraption Before injury he was on his way to a 3rd all nba team, it should be "how will bridges fit with him?" I averaged 25 and 10 but I gotta change my game for you? What world is this? For dudes who never even made an all star team or averaged above 22.
Disagree , OG best position is the 4 - Donte plays better as a starter cuz he’s a catch and shoot not a iso shot creator. I don’t want mikal to just stand in the corner. I like JB Divo mikal OG Mitch - and Duece hart Randle off the bench - run the 2nd unit through Randle imo .
Also Mitchell Robinson is going to be out until the new year... 😬
And then the KAT trade just happened 😬
Nice to see others seeing the potential of this Knicks team. They have a real shot to win the title this year and casual fans think that’s funny lol
If they are healthy this Knicks team actually could go all the way
@@basketballreach this is the first time in my life I can say the Knicks are winning the chip this year and actually believe it
Celtics Lose maybe. Cant beat them with brunsonnrunning into jrue n white
@@xavierb9061Brunson doesn’t really struggle against the Celtics
Laziest thing to say is “how does Randle fit” it’s absurd. Just watch what the Knicks were doing in January last year when they were 12-2 with Randle, OG and JB. Ridiculous at this point.
When the Knicks are dominating, yall will come back and say they’re a loaded super team roster. Lmao.
Only time will tell 👀
They don’t watch Knicks games, yet feel obligated to speak on them. It’s ridiculous bro
@@jordang716 and then they gaslight and try to make Knicks fans seem delusional 💀. Same people tried to act like our starters in the playoffs weren’t literally our bench guys who had to play starters minutes because of Randle and OG/Mitchell being hurt. They just talk to talk 🤣🤣
Super team has to have superstars their only superstar is Brunson.
@@jdavis3259Randle is undoubtedly a top 3 power forward in the league
I see OKC vs Knicks in finals. Randle will have a career year.
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Yessir okc or wolves vs Knicks finals
@@itzDeva12679im a Knicks fan but don’t leave out the Celtics
@@basketballreachI see this series going 7 either way
@@crazynic2848 we can beat them as long as we get a good center
Randle has a clear role on the team. He’s one of 2 players on the roster that can create shots and is an absolute beast in the paint. While Randle should absolutely start it would be a huge boost for the Knicks to give him a lot of time with the second unit as a point forward running the offense
How do you question Randle when he's the constant. Hart has been a bench player. And will return to the bench. Dante will be the odd man because he earned his starting minutes over grimes b4 he left. But he came here as a bench player as well. Everyone cant start. Theres no issue save for a false narrative. Teams win championships with strong benches. This is an asset not a liability. How can Randles fit be questioned when the only change on the team is Bridges. How can it be questioned with him in the lineup they went 12-2. The issue is not seeing the floor holistically but thinking about players in pieces.
There is that but now with Bridges also in that lineup it does get a little bit trickier. I'd give it a 60% chance that Randle does fit in the starting lineup and a 40% chance he doesn't but they still play him there anyway
@@basketballreach I don't think so. Bridges does the same thing as Dante with more options to score. You can look this stat up. Dante shot a higher % from 3 when he played with Randle. He was open more because Randle drew the double team. Go look at Bridges highlights. He's in the corner. He will either shoot the 3 or take the rotating player off the dribble and has the ability to knock down the midrange. This will actually cause more ball movement because when he drives he will cause defenses to collapse. Or the open 3. We don't have to scheme for him. The only issue is if Randle is affected by the shoulder and doesn't command a double team anymore. Guess what. He is a 2b option now. Bridges 2a. He takes you off the dribble, Randle is open as the ball rotates and most 4 defenders are slower than him. He still has the strength to over power most of the people rim protecting. Randle and Bridges will be at the line alot. My opinion
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@@hamletherreraiii7438 yes true but we need some legit 7 footers
Randle opens up the game for everyone with his ability to create his own shot & Pass he's going to be the perfect fit. With his ability to draw defenders in the paint he can give open looks to Brunson, Bridges, & Anuoby.
In theory that sounds nice but Randle isn't an elite passer and not only that but his overall court vision was part of why he was struggling so badly at the start of last season
@@basketballreach It worked out fine when he was playing in January
@@basketballreachNo he struggled at the start of last season because he was coming off 2 angle surgeries and didn't have an off season or a proper training camp. His passing has always been good, his problem is decision making off a double team, but when he decides to pass, there's only a few PF better than him
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This is a team with tremendous flexibility in defense and offensive. They will be exciting to watch. But to dethrone the Celtics in the east, they need a healthy and robust Mitch and a solid backup. I have been a Knicks fan for multiple decades, this is definitely a team that has most potential and compelling reasons to root for.
For sure I agree with ever word that you wrote in that comment 🔥
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Yeah I know who Im betting on
Brunson didn’t take a pay cut, he got a raise! He signed for the most that he could possibly sign for at this point.
What do you mean?
Also disagree with “you can’t get away with Julius at center” with Deuce mikal OG hart there won’t be many shots at the rim from dribble penetration - and what center besides embiid does he actually need to guard?
Firstly I agree with the fact that the Knicks perimeter defense will be elite once again but that doesn't mean there won't be any looks at the rim. The Mavericks ate the Thunder alive at the basket with alley oops last post season even though OKC's outside defense had been great
Then as for other centers Randle would have to guard I'd say AD, Jokic and Sabonis in the west and in the east Porzingis when healthy will need guarding along with Giannis when the Bucks go small then Myles Turner and Bam Adebayo can also get it going
@basketballreach yeah but this is back up center not starting. Also it's circumstantial based on match ups. You named about 5 people. If we played all of them twice that's 10. We play the east coast teams more let's say 14 games. Its an experiment.
You do realize Randle dropped 46 on Sabonis? Also Randle has gotten 18 boards on Sabonis. Not to mention Ad , when Julius versus him their numbers are identical. AD primarily gaurds Randle when they verse each other. I don't want randle playing center because it makes no sense height wise but he wouldn't just be some push over.
Randle doesn't have to play defense against a center anyway, OG can switch on D and do that easily. He gave Embiid fits when he was matched up against OG
Leon Rose has a plan for sure. Every year since he’s been running the show, he makes a mid season trade that’s always followed by a win streak and an incredible second half of the season. The signings he’s making are stacking trade chips. He’s gonna evaluate the first half of the season and then make a trade at the deadline to solve the center rotation issue. If anybody is gonna beat the Celtics, it’s gonna be the Knicks.
Facts also I believe that the Milwaukee Bucks have a perfectly constructed team to challenge Boston as the Celtics have no answer for Giannis coming down hill
@@basketballreach No they don't. Dame isn't the same scorer he is, and Middleton's health and availability cannot be relied upon. GTJ isn't going to move the needle for them. Celtics' coaching and overall shooting ability just runs laps around the bucks and everybody else.
Julius Randle will surprise a lot of people this year
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Teir one contender I think. The defense will be awesome regardless of who is at center even if it will be much better with Mitch Thibbs has consistantley gotten the most out of his center play and i so no reason why this center room is any worse than the 2021 unit that they got a top seed with.
True looking forward to Knicks basketball for sure 🔥🔥🔥
THIS RANDLE TAKE IS SUPREMELY LAUGHABLE EXTREMELY HILARIOUS
There's no reason to question who is going to start. Why? Josh Hart brings energy, speed, defense & the ability to get out in transition. Donte DiVincenzo is a good defender & 3 point shooter. Neither of them is consistent in terms of scoring which is why Jalen Brunson had to average almost 40 for the team to win. They are good, but are better coming off the bench.
As for Julius Randle? You mentioned that before he got injured, the team was winning easily. So why would it be any different now? Randle fits well with the Knicks. He can: pass very well, get out in transition, cut to the rim for passes that lead to easy baskets on the run, post up, finish on ally oops, finish on pick n' rolls, drive to the rim and shoot some 3s. Basically he can create offense for others, create offense for himself or finish well off passes from others. Randle is the perfect fit for a team that moves the ball, runs, is athletic and creates turnovers.
In fact, it should be easier for him this season because Mikal Bridges will draw defenders and OG Anunoby and Donte DiVincenzo can shoot 3s which can spread the floor and make it easier for Randle and others to drive to the rim. (That's probably why the Knicks added more 3 point shooters, by the way.) Plus OG Anunoby and Josh Hart can get the team out in transition which would also make scoring easier for him. In fact, if Thibs speeds up the pace, Randle should be able to score with little effort since it will be more difficult to double team him with Mikal Bridges & Jalen Brunson waiting to catch the ball.
Randle at the 5 is the Knicks death lineup
Only against certain teams
@@basketballreachExactly.. “certain teams” you mean 99% of the teams. Only difficult matchup for Randle is Embiid
everyone is forgetting 2017-2018 when he had a career year playing center for the lakers.
Nice vid, still trying to see how when you describe unathletic when referring to Brunson ofc being a athlete if more than dunking what he does on the court is nothing short of athletic
"No clear role on the team" for Randle? He's the 2nd option on offense.
Position like the way he plays offence isn’t like what the Knicks were doing without him
@@basketballreach I'm not sure I follow. Randle's best basketball (arguably of his career) came in January 2024 following the OG Anunoby trade. Adding Mikal Bridges to this is going to be overkill.
The way you say "January" made my ear hole twitch 😂😂
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The fit is immaculate, all we need is a big
Mitchell Robinson is a great option at center but the Knicks will still need a backup not only in case he gets injured again but also because they need someone off the bench. Dwight Howard and Boogie are sitting and waiting for a team to sign them and for whatever reason nobody will 😔
Well Randle isn’t a wing so the lineup will be fine having hart and Divincenzo come off the bench
Honestly that would be how I'd do it too but I just makes you wonder
Imagine one of your concerns being how to integrate a 3x all star and all nba player......Knicks have come a long way
Mainstream media will wake up eventually. Celtics are the only team in the league that can touch the Knicks.
Milwaukee are coming trust me on that 😈
Mitch is starter. Randall achiuwa sims, anunoby spot minutes at c and we are great 👍
Yeah I could see that simlar to what Boston will have to do at C with Horford, Kornet and Tillman until KP gets back
It’s all good I’m sure the Knicks still got some moves to make they will definitely get a C I’m positive
That’s ideal, but that’s also counting on Mitch playing 70+ games. I don’t think he’s done that his whole career. Sims is gonna have to step up, Hukporti be a revelation; or we need to pick up another big body glass cleaner. Anyway Knicks all day 💪🏾
This is the most versatile line up thibs has ever had. The good thing is we have a flexibility for a trade later on maybe by the deadline.
The loss of Hartenstein is going to affect this team a lot more than people think
I think so too
Yea i agree. I mean the knicks were winning games completely based on offensive rebounding which gave them many second chance points. Hartenstein combined with Mitchell Robinson simply out rebounded every team. Without this advantage the Knicks are pretty average imo.
You forgot about Precious Achiuwa !
Shamet is a guard and Morris is a 5, neither a wing, does this man even watch basketball?
Morris is a 3/4
Can someone explain what Julius Randle does on the Knicks that deems him a "bad fit" for the team?
So many wings and no bigs. Also coach Tibs doesn't ever play small ball lineups like ever
@@basketballreach what does any of that have to do with the Power Forward Julius Randle?
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For some of the players taken off the scrap heap , they should have added 2 centers , such as Yetseven and Skap as an example .
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The center problem is overblown
@@RoDiggity3743 it won't be if Randall and OG get reinjured mixing it up inside .
Those centers are beyond awful. There was nothing available. Inserting a bum center could cause as much damage as not playing him at all. The good choices like Kessler was a smoke by ainge. He wasn't close to trading him. And Robinson is an elite center. No question about that. The only question is his health. But that holds true for every team. Like Philly without embiid, Indy without Hali, Pels without Zion, nuggets with jokic, thunder without SGA, etc
@puglover8171 that's why you have depth. Randle only gets hurt on freak occurrences. OG gets a lot of non contact injuries. Hukporti gets in the mix if something happens to Mitch. Precious and Mook also eats up a lot of minutes at the 5. I Hart can be replaced
I believe Randle is going to ruin the Knicks.
I said make Randle the 6th man / back up center and fellow knicks fans called me crazy , now this .
I just don't know if Randle will actually fit on this Knicks team full stop. Now there is a chance that he will be just fine in his normal role and having Donte and Hart of the bench will be great but similar to the Suns with the idea of Beal coming off the bench I just don't see it happening. Both the Suns and Knicks pay Beal and Randle too much to let them just come off the bench
for a team that doesn’t really have another true PF to bench a player who was an all-star just last season is a really bad take. having someone agree with your bad take doesn’t make it better.
@@headcontraption Before injury he was on his way to a 3rd all nba team, it should be "how will bridges fit with him?" I averaged 25 and 10 but I gotta change my game for you? What world is this? For dudes who never even made an all star team or averaged above 22.
Because it is crazy lol. The man is an ALL NBA player and easily the second best player on the team.
Disagree , OG best position is the 4 - Donte plays better as a starter cuz he’s a catch and shoot not a iso shot creator. I don’t want mikal to just stand in the corner. I like JB Divo mikal OG Mitch - and Duece hart Randle off the bench - run the 2nd unit through Randle imo .
They need a big who can backup Mitchell, they traded Isiah
True either soon or before the deadline they need to get one