Attempt at Explaining Live Synth Rig
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- Опубліковано 28 вер 2024
- After posting a picture of my live rig on a few different Facebook groups, some people were asking for an explanation of what's doing what. Instead of typing it all out (cuz I'm lazy), I decided to make a video instead. The video is raw, unedited, and unplanned, so don't expect anything pretty; hopefully you find it informative.
So here it is, a (not so) quick and dirty attempt at explaining how I use the following gear:
-Korg Kronos 2 88
-ROLI Seaboard Rise 49
-Korg NanoPAD2
-Korg NanoKONTROL2
-Keith McMillen K-Board
-Alesis Vortex Wireless 2
-MRT Breath Controller
-Behringer XR18
-iPad Pro 12.9
-Surface Pro 2 running Bitwig Studio
-Surface Pro 2017 runnnig Cantabile Performer (VST host)
-TC Helicon VoiceWorks
-iConnectivity iConnectMIDI4+
-and a bunch of other miscellaneous stuff like pedals, usb hosts, SSDs, and so on
Let me know if you have any questions, and I'll do my best to answer them, or make something up.
Thanks for watching!
I love hearing about other musician’s rigs. Cool insight and helps me think through my own non-gigging rig.
Damn! That's one heck of a rig. Thanks for sharing. Love to see some performance videos of all the bands you work with. Hey, I just realized this is 3 years old. Hope your back out playing.
Brilliant stuff man! Absolutely love the way everything is so beautifully integrated!
Ian de Noronha thanks! It took a while to arrive at that particular setup.
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This is a SLICK rig. As a traditionally vintage-keys sort of player who has been branching out into virtual instruments and sample triggering, there's a lot to learn here. Also, you clearly know how to make the most of all your toys musically, which is the most important thing. Thank you for sharing!
Thanks!
Fascinating! Things have changed so much since had to sell my kit. Excellent video.
Where can I hear your music?
I originally posted this video for a few peeps on Facebook. If I knew it was going to be viewed by about a thousand souls, I probably would've done a little prep, instead of just rambling at my phone. 😁🤦♂️ Anywho, I hope you all find the information helpful.
love your rig, simply awesome.
Hi Manuel. Can you sell me you Roland G6? +258 843773772 whatssap me please.
@@mnjgaziteteclista2332 sorry, I sold it a little over a year ago. Great synth!
All I can say is amazing. Great video. Thank you.
It's the most superb Rig I saw up til now. Not to big not to small. I have two questions: can you specify the connection between Kronos and korg nano for trigering samples? And if not asking you too much can you make a simple demo live with a real song in a stage real situation. Here the old man apreciates Ok. Peace to all of you.
Thank you! The Kronos recognizes the NanoPad natively. All I did here is route the NanoPad through the MIDI router and program one of the NanoPad's rows to a different MIDI channel in order to trigger samples from the VST host. Here's more info: www.korgforums.com/forum/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?t=109067&sid=d8dfd740d8cb4ae6f7149eced1a34edb
I'll try to find a live video, cuz I won't use this right again in a couple of weeks.
Thanks for sharing. Always love seeing other keyboard players live setups.
Nice Rig! Glad to see the MIDI4+ serving you well for your MIDI.
That little sucker is the central nervous system of my setup! 🙌
Very impressive!! Dude, You rock!
Thanks!!! ✌️
Hi. How did you connect the MULTIPLE devices under the seaboard to the surface pro? Thanks
covid lockdown be fun inside your home studio
Awesome!! Thanks for sharing!
Excellent setup and explanations
this set up is CRAZY!! Im sooo jealous!! how often do you disassemble and reassemble?
Thanks! Sometimes several times a week 💀💀💀, typically once or twice a week.
Hola Manuel. Un gusto encontrarte por acá y ver que te dedicaste a la música! Increíbles tus equipos. Felicidades y saludos, Toño Solis (ex oberturo)
Qué onda, Toño! Cada vez se pone un poco más canija la cosa, pero ahí le seguimos rascando a ver qué sale. :) Por ahí tengo unos videos de Obertura... los debería de poner aquí en UA-cam. 😬
Now that is how you should be using technology to make your life easier!!!
Cool setup✌🍺👍
I played the Royal Grove in the late 70s. We always enjoyed ladies night!
The cover photo of this video is actually The Grove!
Nice rig. You sparked a few ideas for my own. I'm interested in where you found the little tray in front of the Roli holding the NanoKontrols. That is exactly what I need!
I made it myself. 😃 Went to the hardware store and scavenged.
Your rig is quite inspiring!
Thanks!!! ✌️
love the stand. would be great to get one!
It's a K&M Spider Pro. I got lucky and found it on sale for a little over $200.
It’s a shame you cant strip the features you don’t use
How do I get in touch with you please
A mouth watering setuo!!
Manuel, what experience do you have with Surface 5 Running cantabile? A lot of people say that the Surface is getting very hot...I Plan to expand my rig and run Session Horns over cantabile/ Kontaktplayer for some songs (no Banking tracks) and do some routings. Do you think it runs stable without failure?
I haven't had any problems, but I don't use too many plugins simultaneously. I have 8 VST instruments and 3 or 4 VST effects loaded at any given time, but I only use 2 or 3 instruments simultaneously at most.
Would have liked to see a run through of the Fantom X and G setup...im using a Fantom X7 and G6....still have no reason to update though.
Im running a Juno G and have no reason to update.....This video seems like a shit load of money for no reason.
Fantastic rig! I've watched this several time, just to see how you put it all together. Question: what is the performance or combi you are using for the guitar on "Fight for your Right"?
Thanks! It's a VST by MusicLab called RealLPC, processed through Native Instruments Guitar Rig.
thanks for this video! I'm just starting out and I'm not finding this quality of gear 'rig run down' if you will, out there ... cheers
I'm glad you found it useful! :)
What are your contingency plans in the event that a major piece of gear goes down during a gig? Do you have any redundant equipment?
I so wish I did! An A/B system would be great, but the type of shows that I do don't justify it. I typically have the Kronos set up with enough splits to get me out of trouble.
It's the same as spike edney uses on the queen tour?
I'll have to look it up. :)
Great setup! Thanks for sharing. What are you using the XR18 for? I see that you mix the 3 sound sources into 2 ch in your DI rack & I guess that goes to FOH. So whats the XR18 role here?
The XR18 is for band practices and multitrack recording. I actually now mix all my synth stuff on an XR12 first, which is what I use for monitoring purposes.
OK thanks. I had the same idea some time ago but still haven't implemented it. Another question: I see the keytar dongle connected to the computer directly instead of being connected to the iConnect. Maybe thats not possible... Then doest it mean that you are not able to play the kronos from the keytar?
@@zalovitch actually, I don't use that dongle anymore, as its range is really poor. I am using an old, discontinued wireless MIDI system from the UK - can't remember the name right now, but there are similar solutions out there. And yes, that wireless MIDI system is connected to the iConnect. :)
Thank for your answers. They have been very useful
Very impressive rig. Thanks. I have a Kronos 88 and the nanopad. Some days ago I bought the seaboard rise 25. So far I worked without an extra computer. I want to use Kronos Sounds with the seaboard. Can you give some advice, how to run the Kronos-Sounds with the seaboard and to use the possibilities of the seabord? There is a video for an Exi-Sound, but I didn't succeed in the HD1-Sounds. Especially I couldn't get the aftertouch. I would like to control a sax or a cello with the seaboard.
Sorry, I have never attempted to play the Kronos sounds with the Seaboard, as I don't have the need for it, and I'm sure it would be quite a lot of programming work due to the multi-channel nature of the Seaboard.
Hi, I'm following your videos. Could you tell me how to use Korg nanokontrol with the iPad, as I'm trying to connect to control my xr18 and I can not.
I don't know how I missed your post. I don't use the NanoKONTROL with the iPad; I use it with a Surface Pro. I would also love to find a way to use something like that to control an X Air mixer, as I have both the XR18 and XR12.
Maybe it's my age, but there's no amount of money that would make me want to pack all that up, load it, unload it, set it up, perform, pack it, load it, unload it, unpack it, set it up then repeat, Nice gear though. :).
A roadie would be nice. 😂
I agree with you, that's a lot to pack up. However there definitely is a price where I would bring all 12 or so keyboards I own! I haven't gotten that price yet though! 😂🤣😂🤣
I would also like to know which app you use on your iPad to track the lyrics.
I use BandHelper. Amazing app.
OMG !!! What's the price for such an installation ???
I'm guessing about $12,000. I'll have to add it all up next time I set it up. 😬
@@ManueldelaTorre Waouwww nothing to do with my 2nd hand Korg Krome 61 @600€ LOL ( kind regards from Belgium )
That's allot o cash to play Ice Ice baby and Rappers Delight.
I play in 4-5 different bands. ;) Interestingly, though, that band is one of 2 that makes the most money.
@@ManueldelaTorre that's because crap is king,a Grammy is now the equivalent of a third place bowling trophy,and Kanye West has shelves full of em,and he can't sing a note or play an instrument. I get it I was a musical whore for 42 yrs, I'd need a calculator to count how many times I had to play Brown eyed Girl ya gotta eat.if only R and B and Funk came back Brick House packed the floor Everytime,anyways good luck I like your setup I just have a bunch of old boards collecting dust.mini Moog with ribbon and hold sample box,farfisa mini,fast 4, Wurlitzer e piano,2 dx7s, Juno Korg dw 6000,Korg m1,R D 300, Korg x5D,Hammond C3 all relics like me
What is the software program on the ipad
BandHelper. Excellent app.
Hi Manuel, I'm considering getting an Alesis Vortex II. Can you tell me if you can plug the dongle directly into the Kronos as well ? Does that work ?
kpm75 I have not personally attempted this, but according to Alesis support, you're not supposed to connect the USB dongle directly to a synthesizer. I don't think it would damage the port, but I could be wrong.
Hi Manuel, what I would like it to do is just duplicating the Kronos keyboard, some forums say that works just plugging the dongle in the Kronos does exactly that. Would you mind trying if that's the case indeed ?
@@kpm75 it works. :)
Got mine some days ago, and indeed it works but not flawless... Quite often you get notes not getting their midi note-off command, so they keep hanging. Wired there's no problem, but using the dongle I wouldn't risk using it in a live situation.
@@kpm75 the wireless system is not very strong. I was dealing with the same issue, so now I connect the dongle via a little USB extension cable, and place it clear of interference. Works much better, but I still don't wander too far.
if trent reznor saw this in 95. oh the cringe
seems complex
Excelente trabajo amigo! Que aplicaciones usas en tu iPad pro?
Gracias, Roberto. Para tocadas en vivo, principalmente uso BandHelper, y las aplicaciones de las consolas Behringer XR18 y X32 para ajustar monitores.
Gracias amigo¡ tienes Facebook?
@@Roberto.Arista.Briones sí. Bajo el mismo nombre, ubicado en Lincoln, Nebraska, USA.
Manuel de la Torre no te encuentro¡ :-(
@@Roberto.Arista.Briones facebook.com/manueldelatorre
You set this rig up at gigs? Good grief! Kronos weighs a ton.
Yes, and yes. 😂😭
jesus christ man..........I wish that I was as rich as you. Didnt even mention that Fantom 6.....Let me get that from ya bro.
Not rich at all, just a little crazy. 🥴
I have a brother who lives in Omaha. He's a sound engineer. You've probably worked with him.
What's his name?
Много говорит!
I had to pay so much attention to try to understand how you set up everything
That is a serious pros rig I am a English semi retired keyboard player singer I do not like gigging any more as when I was pro I preferred. Residency type gigs
I have heard ridiculous comments like can we have the music without the wires and the boxes
I only have a Yamaha still haven't figured out dual voicing. My bass player fortunately has 2 keyboards
No better reason to buy something other than “it’s just sexy”
Awesome setup, brother! “I’m too lazy to type!” Amen! I feel you!😂
Great sound SWAM! but... I advise you to use CAMELOT by SWAM ;)
wow! impressive!
I'm wondering how did you learn all these things? These synchronizations, coordination and connections are so complicated. I'm a tech guy, but I can't learn the Kronos settings.
I've been dealing with synths and MIDI since I was 12. That's... 32 years. 😬
Rocking bro
That Pyle conditioner is going in my next build. Wall warts be darned- great find. . You have a very sophisticated controller integration system. I like your use of the small MIDI controllers and the iConnect to manage the routing. Thanks for sharing your setup
Pretty happy with the Pyle so far; super convenient and relatively affordable.
Complicated as can be, but well-explained.
where is the music? from nebraska territory
Sadly Nebraska doesn't have a particular music genre like some other states do. :'(
Nice rig, everything has a purpose and a place. Great rundown on what you have and how you use it. Thanks & cheers!
Thank you!
Nice rig!
w o w 😮
So, do you break this all down and take it places?!
Pretty much every weekend. Takes me about 30 minutes each to set up and tear down. 20 if I'm in a hurry, but I don't like being in a hurry. 😛
Nice rig. I also have a Kronos but it's a 73 key first generation. Above that I have a King Korg and above that my old Wavestation EX. On the other side of my room I have a Korg Triton Por x, my ancient Minikorg and my old Polysix.. Here's a quick video tour if you'd like to see. ua-cam.com/video/mNxqBAaHyRY/v-deo.html
Nice Nice setup. I am a Kronos player also and I have several questions about your setup. Is it possible to reach you via email or phone for some possible paid consultation?
Really great walkthrough, thank you very much!
Amigo Bendiciones! Podras hacer tu video en español, seria de mucha ayuda! Feliz Año Nuevo
Si tengo tiempo, me lo aviento. :)
Gracias amigo! Feliz año nuevo lleno de amor, éxito, dicha y la bendición de Dios!
You are rich bro👍
I wish! 😬 I've just "invested" in gear over the years, and I'm a full-time musician.
Dude!!! Really? Duuuude!!! That’s a friggin crazy impresive awesome setup man!!!
I haven’t been this impressed in a long loooong time.
Dudeeee!!! ...
Dudeeee!!!
Thanks! 😃 I need to do a video update, because it recently got a little crazier. 😈
Do you have videos of you playing live?
They're kind of all over the place, mostly posted on Facebook under different band pages. There may be some here: ua-cam.com/channels/ek25wGXMaJBZOvEGDTzkQQ.html
Some older stuff here with different setup but similar gear.
ua-cam.com/users/Mosynth
Live rig. I'm thinking "What do you haul around? If you can set that up in a couple hours you are my idol. Very serious rig. That Roli rules
Thanks! Everything is optimized for live shows, so setup takes about 30-45 minutes. :)
That setup is no joke!
I just need a roadie now. 😛
@@ManueldelaTorre you seriously do. Idk how you move that around for shows!
@@frankieseymour3324 takes me about 30 minutes. A little worse than a drummer. 😂
This is very useful. I've been watching so many videos of keyboard rigs. But I always wondered how the routing would go like. Appreciate if you could explain the rack routing. Thank you
I will try to remember to make a video of the rack itself next time I set it up. :)
cool rig. what do you use to keep everything together on the K&M's 2nd level/tier for all those controllers (Roli, nano* and KM scratch keyboard)? thanks in advance.
I velcro'd them all to 2 pieces of flat metal I cut to size at a hardware store. 😬
so cool that someone uses cantabile, i'm sick of people with mainstage for play live with plugins
Cantabile is legit! ✌️
Any videos of this rig being used in a live setting?
I have the footage. I guess now I should actually post it here. 🤦♂️
Not quite live, but you can see it in action in some of my videos here: m.ua-cam.com/channels/ek25wGXMaJBZOvEGDTzkQQ.html
Nice rig, thanks for sharing!
Thanks for sharing! I like the Kronos sound (but I don't like the feel of the keys), and I use Cantabile too, good stuff.
It took a while to get used to the keys after playing a Fantom X6 and G6 for several years.
You are a Genius and great explanation
wow how rich are you :)
Not rich at all. I got no kids. 😁 These are my babies. Kidding aside, I am lucky enough to make decent money performing.
I use different instruments, equipment and apps too. I mostly produce my own work by myself and often have trouble integrating everything together and getting everything synced and hooked up properly... It's my biggest problem!!! How did you get so good at making all that stuff work in connection with everything else?
Years and years and years. And years. 😜 And a decent amount of trial and error.
I didn't study any of it formally; I've just been dealing with synths (and MIDI, which is a big part of the setup) for a long time.
Do you have videos of your gigs?
A few people have asked. I mostly upload them on Facebook. I guess I should upload some here. :)
@@ManueldelaTorre do you have a Facebook page that fans can seem them or is it just private?
@@alancummings5651 since I play in four or so different bands, they are kind of all over the place. You may find some under my personal profile which is pretty much all public. Just search for Manuel de la Torre in Lincoln, Nebraska. ✌️
Sebord isn’t really practical. That’s why it never caught on.
It is a very specialized device, and it isn't cheap. That said, it can do absolutely amazing things, and I simply couldn't give it up. I think a lot depends on the type of music you're playing. Wind instruments and strings are phenomenal, and synth leads are also pretty amazing, especially since you can do everything with one hand (vibrato, pitch bend, aftertouch).
Hola, muy bueno el video, te consulto, que tipo de teclado es el de arriba? Pareciera cubierto de goma
Es un Seaboard Rise 49, de ROLI.
Loved the L shaped USB connectors! Could you please share which brand are those? My OCD will thank tou immensely😀
They're just cheap cables and adapters from Amazon. Brands include StarTech, Cerrxian, Wpeng, SinLoon... really just random brands. Whatever is cheap and has good reviews.
Tks!!!
What is the app on the Surface Pro? It seems it is the same functionality as Mainstage. Is that how you are routing all the Midi devices?
It is Cantabile Performer, and it is indeed a (very powerful) VST host. It is fully optimized to be used with a touchscreen, btw.
And yes, that program - in combination with the iConnectMIDI4+ - takes care of all the MIDI routing.
A la verga, me intimida todo tu setup, pero muy chingón, felicidades!
Ya lo cambié un poquito... Nuevo video próximamente. :)
Manuel, that is a seriously world class rig, WELL DONE. The Amount of thought and hours of work . . . Amazing. PS Do you do rig design consulting for touring acts??
Thanks! I don't, but maybe I should? 😬 I just do this for myself. Actually, I need to make a new video, cuz some things have changed since...
@@ManueldelaTorre I'd love to see where your at now
@@ManueldelaTorre Yes please that will be so welcomed by so many! Thanks in advance!
Chow..
Nice rig! What do you use to bundle the cables at the back of your Kronos? Lookes like a material out of textile?
1/2" Side Entry Cable Wrap... www.amazon.com/dp/B00RM11RTI?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share
I use different diameters, btw.
I know a lot of musicians use Mac on stage because of reliability. How reliable is this setup, because you are using Windows machines for most of your sounds.
I haven't had any major problems. I have never gigged with a Mac, so I can't compare, but I have never liked the idea of having a laptop onstage. The VST host I use is fully optimized for touchscreen, and I give that a lot of value. If Apple finally came out with a MacOS tablet, and MainStage was optimized for it, I would probably consider that route.
@@ManueldelaTorre I guess I've been a victim of confusion, because I honestly thought Mac for live use only, because it's sturdy.
Interesting to see someone using a Windows and it's reliable. Was there ever a day the rig "broke" and refused to work?
@@tonylancer7367 I have had to restart one of them a couple of times, but I attribute that to the fact that I use it for many many things other than music, so there's a bunch of processes running all the time. The older Surface Pro 2 that I use exclusively for Bitwig sequences has never given me any trouble.
Hey man this video is AMAZING thank you for being transparent! One question what was the name of that electric guitar and how do you have it setup sound wise? Is it running through any effects and such?
Thanks! The electric guitar is Music Lab RealLPC, and it is being processed through Native Instruments Guitar Rig 5.
Awesome it sounds so good so real
@@BrotherBishop300 it takes a little time, but it's totally worth it in my opinion.
Takes time to load? And I’m on the MusicLab website which guitar is it? They have 5 different types they offer.
@@BrotherBishop300 I meant it takes time to play it proficiently. :) The guitar is RealLPC.
Hi, which vst for realtime timestrectch in Cantabile do you use ( launch from nanopad )? Very coll rig...
Thanks! I use Native Instruments Kontakt as a sampler; it works very well!
@@ManueldelaTorre Thanks a lot ! Some videos of your live perfs ?
@@jbreizh5379 I guess I should upload some of those. 😬
@@jbreizh5379 you can see a few videos (not live perf, though) if you search for manueldelatorremusic here on UA-cam.
What amplification would you use in a full Band Rehearsal? Great Rig!
Thanks! When rehearsing without a main PA, I use a Bose S1 Pro, which is the same speaker I use for small solo shows.
@@ManueldelaTorre Cool!
Hey, Manuel. I must say, pretty impressive rig! I would currently need some music technology help, is there any way I could directly contact you? Thanks
Absolutely. manueldelatorremusic@gmail.com, 402-840-5144. Fair warning: I do this for a living (teaching/consulting), but if I am unable to help you, then you have no obligation to pay. I am fully set up to offer remote consulting.
@@ManueldelaTorre Thank you, I will get in touch soon.
@@ManueldelaTorre Hi! I have sent a mail to your email. Please check, thank tou
@@ManueldelaTorre Hi! I have sent a mail to your email. Please check, thank you
How do you also make the seaboard and Kronos to be controlled from the surface pro as well? Thanks
If you're referring to the old Surface Pro 2 running Bitwig, all MIDI communications are taken care of by the iConnectMIDI4+. Basically everything talks to everything. :)
@@ManueldelaTorre Hi. Thanks for the reply! How do you connect the nanoPad and nanoKontrol to the Kronos and Bitwig or Cantabile Software? Also, how do setup the scenes and stuff? You are just genius! Any chance I could directly message you please? Thank you so much!
@@joysree5998 2 of the nano devices are connected to the newer Surface Pro, and 1 directly to the iConnectMIDI4+. I offer online music technology lessons if you're interested. 😉
@@ManueldelaTorre I will be 100% interested if you can breakdown the rig you have in this video. Did you connect the nano devices to the Surface pro directly and connect the iConnectMIDI4+ to the Surface Pro as well? Thanks.
@@joysree5998 one of the Nano devices is connected to the iConnectMIDI4+. The other 2 nanos to the Surface Pro 5, and then that Surface Pro 5 to the iConnectMIDI4+.
I need to see this hip hop band!
There's a little bit of content here: facebook.com/lancasterghettoblaster
Nice rig! What’s the app you use with the Surface? I’m intrigued. Thanks in advance!
Cantabile Performer, it's a great VST host.
The other Surface (the first one I mention in the video) runs Bitwig Studio, a program extremely similar to Ableton Live.
Manuel de la Torre ...thanks a lot for your answer. Do you prefer Bitwig to Ableton?
Also, do you have or can recommend videos about how to set up tracks/samples and control them as you do?
I do prefer Bitwig for two main reasons: it is highly optimized for touchscreens, and you can open multiple projects at once and have them in tabs like an internet browser.
How the heck do u move it around?! Pretty cool rig!
Nicely packed in the back of my SUV. AND I used to also pack a guitar, violin, and extra rack case for another musician. 😬 It was like playing 3D Tetris.
@@ManueldelaTorre Nice! I imagine it was quite hard moving it around
@@joaobaptistabrandao not really, just a little time-consuming.