I meant to mention this. I asked the question and they told me it's quiet and you pretty much won't hear it. The bottom of the pump is rubberised to reduce vibrations and the outlet pushes water against the sump glass so you won't get loud splashing. Although i'd imagine you'll still hear a quiet trickle. My impression is it'll be very quiet indeed, but i'll reserve judgment until i've tested it as i'm sensitive to sound!
@@ReefDorkXtra it looks like the tmc small footprint dc return pumps so if you can find out if its dc then well know how quiet it is, if always fitted soft silivone tube under and around my pumps to eliminate vibration noise too
Whatever happened to the Osmolator 2.0 they were bringing out? It was supposed to feature a quiet pump. I heard it was coming a year ago and then they said Supply chain issues were slowing it down. Haven’t heard anything since. I would buy a pump over buying the Red Sea system. I do like the connectivity to ReefBeat though. It looks like another good piece of equipment from them.
@@FoolOfATuque sounds like it's finally on its way - Tunze showed it off at Reefstock last week. They didn't say anything about noise in the video I saw so I wonder if it's actually gonna be quieter...
@@ReefDorkXtra I guess time will tell. If it’s quieter than they are going to sell a lot of pumps I think. I would love the Red Sea one, because I already have the doser and filter roller. I’m already invested in the Tunze though and it’s only a year old.
Red Sea is on a roll! They're going to have a solution for everything Neptune Apex does here very soon it looks like! I think the price is actually right in line with where it should be. The temperature monitoring and leak detection add a lot of value in my opinion.
What is mind-blowing is the snake oil scheme of the saltwater industry: you can DIY the same setup for a fraction of the cost using a pair of STM microcontrollers (6 dollars each), water pumps, silicone tubing, water level and temperature sensors (not even 2 dollars each), and your own titanium/aluminum framework. This includes an ATO (Automatic Top Off) system, an automatic sump with dual outlets, and other components-all for just 600 dollars compared to the 2,500-dollar snake-oiled 350 Red Sea Reefer G2+.
Glad that RedSea is coming out with a product to fix there problem with the reefmat. While I love the reefmat. Every time it spins to clean mat the water level gets higher in the back of the sump. My Tunze ATO alarms on me. This is a never ending cycle. RedSea to the rescue.
in need of picking up a new top off and glad to see tis product final hit the market. I like me the Red Sea products so looking forward to seeing this in performance. thanks for a great video. very informative
Great video Alex. I think in comparison cost wise they are quite close you can get the tunze one from Charterhouse for £180 but if this one is quieter then I’d go for this for sure
Stuff like this is kind of keeping me from getting a aquarium controller. They need a PH probe now. I already have the Dose and that would be perfect to add in.
When you say the safety cutoff sensor knows when you have turned your return off, I’m guessing you have to have a red sea return for that benefit? If no red sea return then the ato needs to be turned off when doing water changes etc?
You can put a pH probe in your DT but I wouldn't want it anywhere it will see light as it'll grow algae. And probes are delicate so not easily cleaned. And you'd want it away (upstream) from your dosing outlet.
My current ato has been unreliable so I'm holding out for the red sea ato, I hope. Do you think the sensor would fit in the return section of an all in one aquarium?
I need a reef hack! My water storage is about 6 meters from my display tank and I would like to put the pump in that area but I don’t think the wire will reach the controller. How do I extend the cable from the pump to the control panel if even possible?
the temp will change when it tops off because sensor is sensing colder water being dispensed from the ato lmao the sensor needs to be placed different in my opinion
Don't know I'm afraid - the leak sensor can detect freshwater and that uses the same sensor as the level sensor so it probably does, but I can't be sure
Hey Reef Dork Is this just the system for detecting water level and controlling refill? Does it include RO water reservoir? I’m interested in setting up ATO with remaining room in cabinet and curious about how all that works (Refilling a 5 gallon reservoir every few days or what)
That's it - no reservoir. Space in sump is pretty tight for a reservoir but you can either use the existing red sea reservoir or baffle a section in the sump. Easier option is to install a container in a cupboard somewhere
For my reservoir I use a trigger systems sapphire ATO. It looks good enough to just sit next to my tank, but you don’t need such an expensive one. You do want an ATO, because it prevents salinity swings by replacing evaporated water.
It will be interesting to see how noisy the pump is compared to the tunze ?
I meant to mention this. I asked the question and they told me it's quiet and you pretty much won't hear it. The bottom of the pump is rubberised to reduce vibrations and the outlet pushes water against the sump glass so you won't get loud splashing. Although i'd imagine you'll still hear a quiet trickle. My impression is it'll be very quiet indeed, but i'll reserve judgment until i've tested it as i'm sensitive to sound!
@@ReefDorkXtra it looks like the tmc small footprint dc return pumps so if you can find out if its dc then well know how quiet it is, if always fitted soft silivone tube under and around my pumps to eliminate vibration noise too
Whatever happened to the Osmolator 2.0 they were bringing out? It was supposed to feature a quiet pump. I heard it was coming a year ago and then they said Supply chain issues were slowing it down. Haven’t heard anything since. I would buy a pump over buying the Red Sea system. I do like the connectivity to ReefBeat though. It looks like another good piece of equipment from them.
@@FoolOfATuque sounds like it's finally on its way - Tunze showed it off at Reefstock last week. They didn't say anything about noise in the video I saw so I wonder if it's actually gonna be quieter...
@@ReefDorkXtra I guess time will tell. If it’s quieter than they are going to sell a lot of pumps I think. I would love the Red Sea one, because I already have the doser and filter roller. I’m already invested in the Tunze though and it’s only a year old.
Red Sea is on a roll! They're going to have a solution for everything Neptune Apex does here very soon it looks like! I think the price is actually right in line with where it should be. The temperature monitoring and leak detection add a lot of value in my opinion.
What is mind-blowing is the snake oil scheme of the saltwater industry: you can DIY the same setup for a fraction of the cost using a pair of STM microcontrollers (6 dollars each), water pumps, silicone tubing, water level and temperature sensors (not even 2 dollars each), and your own titanium/aluminum framework. This includes an ATO (Automatic Top Off) system, an automatic sump with dual outlets, and other components-all for just 600 dollars compared to the 2,500-dollar snake-oiled 350 Red Sea Reefer G2+.
Glad that RedSea is coming out with a product to fix there problem with the reefmat. While I love the reefmat. Every time it spins to clean mat the water level gets higher in the back of the sump. My Tunze ATO alarms on me. This is a never ending cycle. RedSea to the rescue.
Just ordered one! Can't wait. Thanks for this vid!!
in need of picking up a new top off and glad to see tis product final hit the market. I like me the Red Sea products so looking forward to seeing this in performance. thanks for a great video. very informative
Just got one of these with my 350 g2+. And the reefmat500 🎉. Going to run it from a 25l jerry can in cabinet
Very well presented video, Alex!
I think we’ll wait until you’ve tested it out before we grab one! ;)😂
Great video Alex. I think in comparison cost wise they are quite close you can get the tunze one from Charterhouse for £180 but if this one is quieter then I’d go for this for sure
Stuff like this is kind of keeping me from getting a aquarium controller. They need a PH probe now. I already have the Dose and that would be perfect to add in.
Nice - prefer the gravity fed ATO that RSRs come with - love those
I hated mine 😅
When you say the safety cutoff sensor knows when you have turned your return off, I’m guessing you have to have a red sea return for that benefit? If no red sea return then the ato needs to be turned off when doing water changes etc?
No, it's based on water level so it'll work with any return pump
Can you put the probe in the main section of the tank if you have a smaller aquarium or does it have to go in the sump?
You can put a pH probe in your DT but I wouldn't want it anywhere it will see light as it'll grow algae. And probes are delicate so not easily cleaned. And you'd want it away (upstream) from your dosing outlet.
This seems to be a good choice for a AIO tank, time will tell.
great vid as always
Hey nice job!
Will this work on my red sea max e 170 AIO with no sump?
Don't see why not
Hello Alex how are you? How does the red sea ato works afther a year of testing? Kind regards Kim
Really good - it makes more noise than I'd like but otherwise I have no complaints
@@ReefDorkXtra thank you 😊
My current ato has been unreliable so I'm holding out for the red sea ato, I hope. Do you think the sensor would fit in the return section of an all in one aquarium?
Depends what size but Red Sea say it fits in the Max Nano if that helps.
@@ReefDorkXtra Thank you that should be helpful.
I need a reef hack! My water storage is about 6 meters from my display tank and I would like to put the pump in that area but I don’t think the wire will reach the controller. How do I extend the cable from the pump to the control panel if even possible?
Not sure if you can, but check what connectors they use when it's released and see if you can get a male to female extender.
the temp will change when it tops off because sensor is sensing colder water being dispensed from the ato lmao the sensor needs to be placed different in my opinion
this work with freshwater?
Don't know I'm afraid - the leak sensor can detect freshwater and that uses the same sensor as the level sensor so it probably does, but I can't be sure
Need to be able to buy extra sensors so we can use it to create new Rodi and salt water
Hey Reef Dork
Is this just the system for detecting water level and controlling refill?
Does it include RO water reservoir?
I’m interested in setting up ATO with remaining room in cabinet and curious about how all that works
(Refilling a 5 gallon reservoir every few days or what)
That's it - no reservoir. Space in sump is pretty tight for a reservoir but you can either use the existing red sea reservoir or baffle a section in the sump. Easier option is to install a container in a cupboard somewhere
For my reservoir I use a trigger systems sapphire ATO. It looks good enough to just sit next to my tank, but you don’t need such an expensive one. You do want an ATO, because it prevents salinity swings by replacing evaporated water.
Are you calling the Tunze osmolator reliable? 😐
😅 For the most part, yes! Although my 3 do sometimes give me a headache!
Red Sea please make us a controller to compete with Neptune Apex
Just more stuff to buy and go wrong
@reefdork maby u should put ur leak sensor next to your ro di unit 😱🤭🫣
100%!