Yeah but he sued people for copying his work when that work is pretty different than the source he thinks it was taken from. Incredible hulk for example.
@@amsbeats841 I can’t remember the specifics of the Hulk case, but The Terminator one is blatant in the extreme. He was also right to oppose sharing texts online without permission. He further in the ‘70s took a major TV network to court for stealing his and Ben Bova’s script and won at great monetary cost to himself.
Harlan Ellison knew what he was saying. Ellison knew all about computers, he wasn't a close minded idiot. Ellison understood better than most the great helpful things the internet could provide humanity, but what he also understood was that individual people did not have the self-control and responsibility to regulate the internet's powerful trappings.
Bit ironic Doctorow is calling Harlan Ellison a "mixed bag" as a writer. A person yes, but I have read both and Doctorow doesn't hold a candle to Ellison as a stylist. He also seems to be utterly unaware that most of the "worst" things Ellison has said were meant sardonically.
@@audreyharris7643 Well I don’t like Apple (I’m talking abt fruit) but I know I need to eat to live better, the internet is the same, if your brain can’t get that, I think you are scrolling too much lmao
@@jeffthewolf4589 I do get it there's just a documented trope of irony of the message against something being done through what it's against. I'm not saying the message is wrong it's just funny
No. The worst writing advice Corey ever received was, “Why don’t you collaborate on a novel with Charles Stross.” What an absolute waste of two decent writers.
yeah the "DR." should have taken Harlan's advice because there are so many problems now since the dawn of the internet age. Tik Tok has ruined our society at this point.
@@bigbrotherishere you can't really judge the majority of youths today based on what you see on tik tok. I went back to school recently, and some of these kids are brilliant and ambitious and eloquent. It's surprising. One of the things the internet has done is highlighted the worst in society. You can't take it at face value.
i feel so out of place being here being 18 and all its like when you're a child and you can't understand taxes yet and your parents are talking about them but the internet did nothing it its own creators that made it into a place of entertainment and stupidity it came from a platform where you can share just about anything to a place of chasing trends to be relevant its kinda like alcohol in a sense you try it once or thrice and you can't just help yourself but to taste that again that escape from reality and responsibility sadness, anger and sorrow it is a drug to a temporary paradise made easy to consume just like what the internet today is
@@ZiggyStardustKittyYep. TikTok reflects & magnifies the worst, and though I don’t doubt social media, short form content etc (yes I recognise the irony of highlighting this here, hah) has shortened attention spans, it comes down the parental - plus teacher - oversight & influence.
You got the best advice from the best fantasy writer of all times and you’re talking about him like a Neanderthal who took it like it was nothing of value
@seaminer5894 that's not an opinion, I've never met someone who legitimately doesn't understand what an opinion is lol. A bit concerning in all honesty?
First off,You should have taken his advice. The internet is a waste of time with Tik Tok and social media streaming television. The Glass Teat has surely evolved. second off, I have kept up with Harlan's website and everything about him as an ultrafan for years before he died. And not once did I see a blog post or a public statement, a youtube video or even hear any gossip that he ever mentioned you or anything you have ever said and done. And i ask this question: who are you? and why do you matter? And as far as terrible things that Harlan did, yeah that's called living life. And its also fighting back bullies who will always exist in our lives. Harlan is the goat, and in my informed opinion, this clown who is running his mouth about a man who's been dead for 5 years, hasn't the right to even lace Harlan's boots, let alone comment on the man and his work! third and finally, it is bad juju to disrespect the dead. It's even worse when you're a writer who disrespects the goat. My name is Jacob Pittman, and you Dr. can kindly suck my balls, you bugfuc mother.
Doctorow is one of the most prominent figures involved in movements such as the Open Source/Free Software movement and the Collective Commons movement. He is a figure of international importance, and has worked across a number of different countries to help shape systems that operate outside the bounds of traditional Intellectual Property law. He is also a highly successful author. Who exactly are YOU? What are YOUR credentials on the matter?
@@circeciernova1712 I'm just a guy on the internet. I have no credentials on the matter of this man until this video where he name dropped one of the most prolific sci fi authors ever for clout. I will be very well known in just a few short years once my novels are released. No disrespect towards you intended btw if you like him. But i really don't like this guy. He either worded his response wrong, or simply did not consider the nuance of Harlan's words on this matter. the internet on a technological level is an amazing accomplishment, that has devolved into the very same glass teat that was once television, sucking the life from us. What are your thoughts?
What does that got to do with the fact that this interview is stupid and speaks ill of the dead? and people will long remember Ellison, before they remember this hack in the video. @@circeciernova1712
@@circeciernova1712 lol that’s not even big deal, he is just a guy of power saying things that smart people know aren’t facts at all, just opinions, and these things are of his interest, as you said, he is in the technology/ai and software development industry so obviously he won’t agree with something that is against his world, you guys need to stop putting some humans on the top when they hadn’t even did anything of enormous value, and yeah this is abstract but it’s pretty obvious he isn’t Donald Trump. Alas you call him a great writer? I guess you’re not quite a reader then lol most of his books are like coach stuff and basic informations concepts or whatever, while Harlan, is on another level, he brought an entire category of literature, if you disagree with that I can’t stand your ignorance because whoever defends this guys is fuc*** up
Doctorow is another one of those people who's opinion of himself far outweighs his ability. And the fact that his voice is totally the voice you would expect from a dude who is wearing that mask is too perfect.
Knowing how we use the Internet most of the time... I think he made a pretty great point
Rule 34 has entered the chat
“Copyright maximalist” is such a gross term for someone who wants to protect their own created work from theft.
Yeah but he sued people for copying his work when that work is pretty different than the source he thinks it was taken from. Incredible hulk for example.
@@amsbeats841 I can’t remember the specifics of the Hulk case, but The Terminator one is blatant in the extreme.
He was also right to oppose sharing texts online without permission.
He further in the ‘70s took a major TV network to court for stealing his and Ben Bova’s script and won at great monetary cost to himself.
"Cannibalistic murderer" is such a gross term for someone who just really enjoys good meat
@@circeciernova1712 You people really are that dim aren’t you?
@@circeciernova1712 False equivalency
Harlan Ellison knew what he was saying. Ellison knew all about computers, he wasn't a close minded idiot. Ellison understood better than most the great helpful things the internet could provide humanity, but what he also understood was that individual people did not have the self-control and responsibility to regulate the internet's powerful trappings.
the glaze 🙏
How is it glazing @thosewhoknowskullemoji
Harlan Ellison is not a terrible person; he was a great writer and outspoken and passionate about a lot of things. There was no BS with him.
Well there was the whole copyright thing
Bit ironic Doctorow is calling Harlan Ellison a "mixed bag" as a writer. A person yes, but I have read both and Doctorow doesn't hold a candle to Ellison as a stylist. He also seems to be utterly unaware that most of the "worst" things Ellison has said were meant sardonically.
And Harlan was right
Complaining about the Internet on the Internet will never stop being funny
@@audreyharris7643still right😂
@@audreyharris7643 Well I don’t like Apple (I’m talking abt fruit) but I know I need to eat to live better, the internet is the same, if your brain can’t get that, I think you are scrolling too much lmao
@@jeffthewolf4589 I do get it there's just a documented trope of irony of the message against something being done through what it's against.
I'm not saying the message is wrong it's just funny
I would be rolling in my grave if this guy wrote a brave obituary about how to grieve your "mean high school teacher". Give me a fucking break.
Listen to AM when he talks about computers.
There are a lot of AMs in the world, or is this advice meant for the 'in' crowd?
@@vanleeuwenhoek Harlan wrote I Have No Mouth And I Must Scream and voiced the evil computer AM in the 1995 video game adaptation of the same name.
@@aracattack8096 thanks. peace
@ To you as well, sir.
No. The worst writing advice Corey ever received was, “Why don’t you collaborate on a novel with Charles Stross.” What an absolute waste of two decent writers.
I love how all the comments are ubiquitously praising Ellison lol good to see that people are still cool
Internet killed the iq level and attention span of majority of it's users
yeah the "DR." should have taken Harlan's advice because there are so many problems now since the dawn of the internet age. Tik Tok has ruined our society at this point.
@@bigbrotherishere you can't really judge the majority of youths today based on what you see on tik tok. I went back to school recently, and some of these kids are brilliant and ambitious and eloquent. It's surprising. One of the things the internet has done is highlighted the worst in society. You can't take it at face value.
@@ZiggyStardustKittyExcellent point, well said.
i feel so out of place being here being 18 and all
its like when you're a child and you can't understand taxes yet and your parents are talking about them
but the internet did nothing
it its own creators that made it into a place of entertainment and stupidity
it came from a platform where you can share just about anything to a place of chasing trends to be relevant
its kinda like alcohol in a sense
you try it once or thrice and you can't just help yourself but to taste that again
that escape from reality and responsibility
sadness, anger and sorrow
it is a drug to a temporary paradise made easy to consume just like what the internet today is
@@ZiggyStardustKittyYep. TikTok reflects & magnifies the worst, and though I don’t doubt social media, short form content etc (yes I recognise the irony of highlighting this here, hah) has shortened attention spans, it comes down the parental - plus teacher - oversight & influence.
Ive never met someone that looks like this who I didn't instantly hate
What are you on about?
He’s wearing a mask. You know he’s insufferable.
You got the best advice from the best fantasy writer of all times and you’re talking about him like a Neanderthal who took it like it was nothing of value
And he was right, just you don't get it
You are complaining about the Internet on the Internet.
Do you need me to explain the contradiction?
@@finlaytemple1744 Nah I couldn't care less about your opinion
@seaminer5894 that's not an opinion, I've never met someone who legitimately doesn't understand what an opinion is lol.
A bit concerning in all honesty?
@@finlaytemple1744 Bye bye
@@seaminer5894 I sincerely hope you get help
Shame on this person.
What's wrong with being a "Copyright Maximalist". Come up with your own material.
I think it's because of how it can be abused
First off,You should have taken his advice. The internet is a waste of time with Tik Tok and social media streaming television. The Glass Teat has surely evolved. second off, I have kept up with Harlan's website and everything about him as an ultrafan for years before he died. And not once did I see a blog post or a public statement, a youtube video or even hear any gossip that he ever mentioned you or anything you have ever said and done. And i ask this question: who are you? and why do you matter? And as far as terrible things that Harlan did, yeah that's called living life. And its also fighting back bullies who will always exist in our lives. Harlan is the goat, and in my informed opinion, this clown who is running his mouth about a man who's been dead for 5 years, hasn't the right to even lace Harlan's boots, let alone comment on the man and his work! third and finally, it is bad juju to disrespect the dead. It's even worse when you're a writer who disrespects the goat. My name is Jacob Pittman, and you Dr. can kindly suck my balls, you bugfuc mother.
Doctorow is one of the most prominent figures involved in movements such as the Open Source/Free Software movement and the Collective Commons movement. He is a figure of international importance, and has worked across a number of different countries to help shape systems that operate outside the bounds of traditional Intellectual Property law. He is also a highly successful author.
Who exactly are YOU? What are YOUR credentials on the matter?
@@circeciernova1712
I'm just a guy on the internet. I have no credentials on the matter of this man until this video where he name dropped one of the most prolific sci fi authors ever for clout.
I will be very well known in just a few short years once my novels are released.
No disrespect towards you intended btw if you like him.
But i really don't like this guy. He either worded his response wrong, or simply did not consider the nuance of Harlan's words on this matter. the internet on a technological level is an amazing accomplishment, that has devolved into the very same glass teat that was once television, sucking the life from us.
What are your thoughts?
What does that got to do with the fact that this interview is stupid and speaks ill of the dead? and people will long remember Ellison, before they remember this hack in the video. @@circeciernova1712
@@circeciernova1712 lol that’s not even big deal, he is just a guy of power saying things that smart people know aren’t facts at all, just opinions, and these things are of his interest, as you said, he is in the technology/ai and software development industry so obviously he won’t agree with something that is against his world, you guys need to stop putting some humans on the top when they hadn’t even did anything of enormous value, and yeah this is abstract but it’s pretty obvious he isn’t Donald Trump. Alas you call him a great writer? I guess you’re not quite a reader then lol most of his books are like coach stuff and basic informations concepts or whatever, while Harlan, is on another level, he brought an entire category of literature, if you disagree with that I can’t stand your ignorance because whoever defends this guys is fuc*** up
Dude he literally knew Harlan, he's got nore right to speak on him that you, absolute lobotomite
Harlan was awesome and man, do I miss him. This dickweed, on the other hand, will not be missed.
Almost like you never heeded the dangers of AI
Wonder if he read Harlen Ellison's
" i have no mouth but I must scream".
Probably not.
@@pavlemarjanovic1896 exactly my point !
Unfortunately, we didn't listen to him. He was right. Maybe it was the damn phone.
He was right.
What are the terrible things he has done?
You can find out if you watch the full episode!
@@bwblondon Can't be that terrible if you're using them as a hook for a dumb interview.
General prickishness and assault.
@@zeltzamer4010based. You’re a pussy.
It's the best advice. Besides, it's not about talent today. It's a popularity contest
And there's a reason why harlan is remembered but no one has heard of this jagoff.
Doctorow is another one of those people who's opinion of himself far outweighs his ability. And the fact that his voice is totally the voice you would expect from a dude who is wearing that mask is too perfect.
No one denies that Harlan had an outrageously high amount of self-esteem. But he worked hard, and he earned it. He deserved his pride.
Can’t wait for you to revisit this
Why is this person who looks and speaks like the reddit app personified wearing a mask during a podcast
He was right!
I heard this guy out and I agree with these comments... Terrible how?
Cory is gross 😂
😂 im afraid he was right
So the addicts says Harlan was right, but they can't leave UA-cam?
The truth is the truth
That mask is bad advice.
Hey this guy is also a fan Of Stannis Baratheon. A bad deed does not wash out a good nor a good one the bad.
He should be glad Harlan Ellison still isn't alive. The Klaus Kinski of sci-fi writers 😅
Who are they interviewing?
A nobody lol.
nice mask
Nice face diaper
Yeah I was wondering if the guy was sick or something. Other than that what the hell is he wearing it for? Is someone else in the room sick?
His worst piece of advice is we’re a mask that says on the packaging, not effective against viruses or disease.
If he himself is sick, then he is protecting others from his spit droplets 💦
@@ralsharp6013 He, in fact, is not.
@@thehmcwas someone else sick?
Harlan Ellison was the real life Rick Sanchez.
Cry about it...