10000% agree with Peter. 3 weeks of intensive searching, drones, dogs, divers, land searching then attention comes away from the river, all of a sudden her body is found on the river bank next to a secluded road. all those twists and turns amd shallow areas. I refuse to believe she drowned and travelled that far. I honestly believe she was killed and placed in the location she was found
I'm afraid I agree with you as well, I think it seems far too likely that her body was put back in the river after someone thought that the police had finished searching there. Her poor family.
On the day of News of Nicola's body having been found, that Monday the 18th Feb, early morning hours around 1.30am I had watched a Documentary on Netflix called "Unsolved Mysteries", what a coincidence, not knowing that next morning I would hear that Nicola's body had been found waiting identification, which made me think circumstances of her disappearance looked so similar. In this Unsolved Mystery, a man called Pat had disappeared without a trace except his boat was found 9 miles off shore, the local police searched the area around where he would have been likely to have travelled, but nothing was found and then weeks or days later his body surfaced, where it was anticipated, not 9 miles off shore where his boat was found without any trace of him. Nicolas case has very similar tones, an abduction, rape and murder and then dumped could not be ruled out, only an expert performing the autopsy could determine along with forensics. That said alone, I offer my heart felt condolences to her family and friends, who all tried in vein to find her alive, I too was very hopeful that she would be found well. Deeply saddened that she is no longer with us.
It,s just so unbelievable that the reeds we're never searched. ! A most likely place where a body would end up. Why why didn't they search the reeds and river bank. ?
Peter Faulding is not at fault, he offered his services for free to the family, he couldn’t even get his boat in that far, but he did try, Thank you Peter Faulding for everything you did for that family..
He loves himself he's bigged himself up and made him look a joke , ive lived my life along that river since i was a small boy and my friend drowned in that river so i know it well , the reeds are the first place to look, my Dad was a farmer along that river if we lost sheep or cows they always turned up in the reeds sometime 3 or 4 weeks later, its a dark danc evil river.
@@brendan1522 Thanks sorry to hear about your friend. Obvious it’s going to get trapped in reeds Anything would that’s floating in the water will get trapped in them for that idiot to think Nicola was going to stay in open water it was never gonna happen. You made a perfect description that clown thank you.
I think Peter did a 100% thorough job. It WAS NOT his place to search reeds at the higher level, OR reeds in the water - (he would have made police aware from the start that his equipment could NOT see through reeds) but to use his specialised equipment at lower levels, which he did. It was the police and police diver’s responsibility to search the reeds at ALL LEVELS full stop! Searching ANY reeds was NOT Peters department. I can’t believe how easily people “turn”! Peter did this out of kindness. Poor bloke, I really feel for him.
Peter is 100% at fault because he openly said on tv that there was no body in that river since him and and his team had searched it all and would have found a body if there was one in there. Never once did he explain that a body could still be in the reeds areas of the river because his equipment wasn’t able to search them. The police would have been better off not bringing him in, seeing that in the end it was armchair detectives that found Nicola’s body, not him or his team. He did no good and plenty of harm
@@hampter_gaming404 rubbish, this guy is full of BS, my friend fell in a river, same kind of search and he turned up four weeks later two miles away. She was in the river.
I believe Peter did his best with his expertise. People have discredited him. There is more to this case than meets the eye. Much love to Nicola's family. God bless you all.x
I find it strange that her body only traveled 1 mile in 3 weeks. And that mile was inspected multiple times. And on the day she went missing the river was only 2 feet deep where her phone was found. And where her body was found was only 10 meters from a road. Easiest place where somebody could have dumped her body in the river. Something just isn't right with all this.
The police will know a lot of that from tests. It's not far at all from where her phone was to past the weir. So the depth where her phone was is likely irrelevant.
It was only 2 ft deep at the very edge near the bench and was much deeper in the middle. She will also have travelled further than you think because that part of the river is tidal so it's possible to move some distance in and out with the tides. It was high tide at Fleetwood at 10.20am the morning she went missing and a bit later at the location where she was found at approx 11.30am.
I may be wrong, but Peter seems like such a genuine, genuine guy. I'm on his side with all this. I could be wrong though. I do see and feel a genuine guy in him. Peter is only one I trust at moment. I think he and his team did their very best. I just hope all truth comes out for Nicola, her parents and her children. This whole case has fascinated me and it's upset me more than I thought it would. Feels like I knew Nicola...just so so sad.
I also think Peter Faulding is a decent guy, and doesn't deserve the criticism he is getting! BUT he didn't do himself any favours at the start of this investigation with his boastful claims, I think it wound people up!
@@headbobgunpants4858 let the police do their thing? cover up child abuse gangs, murder women, and employ rapists? lol. did yo9u just wake up from a coma?
I found a body in the Thames near Chiswick many years ago & it's a sight I will never unsee. I did have contact with the police afterwards and the autopsy revealed exactly what had happened to the gentleman. He had been in the water for approximately 4 weeks so I was surprised by the findings after such a time frame. Science has moved on & I wish for a definite conclusion with Nicola and hopeful her family can put to rest all the speculation and accusations from some of the public, media, etc. once and for all.
@@flowerjpotter1629I really don't know, but I expect these things are released into the public domaine as soon as the Coroners's report comes through. This was in the mid-80s - so before the internet.
My Dad found our tortoise dead and we ahd this conversation- (I was 13 at the the time- : he said death and the smell of death is something you never forget. Its built into humanity effectively. After 4 weeks ........ I found a dead rat recentlly........I can only sympathise.
You'd see a body from a mile away in some reeds. Someone put the body there to look like she drowned. They need to do a postmortem for marks on the body, dna ect ASAP. This is looking more like a murder then a accident. Why would she go in the water for a start, why would she leave her phone in a obvious place, why wouldn't she of call for help or told someone like the husband or the police what happened before she decided to risk her life in the water. The whole thing makes zero sense. It's clearly a murder/rape. Her body disappeared for 3 weeks and all of a sudden it appears by a river after they finished looking for her in it. Wake the hell up. The police should be shamed for not doing there part not this guy who went above and beyond for this women.
I believe she was put in the river, after the river search was called off. Plus the area was not sealed off or monitored 24/7. I hope that the post mortem is a thorough job, with full integrity, and not just a bish bash job cos they suspect it's suicide. I don't believe she was an alcoholic, she drove her kids to school, took the dog walkies and called and texted people. Unless someone pretended to be her. She did not leave her girls and kill herself. God please help her children, and expose and hurt who ever hurt her. RiP✝️
@@SL-ud7tf She could have fallen in due to a stroke, heart attack or some other such medical occurrence. Just a year ago, my brother fell into a moderately deep drain and died. The autopsy revealed he had a heart attack which is why he could not get himself out. He was never diagnosed for heart problems.. It happens.
That point of the river where she was found is right next to the road. I think she was put there later. If she had gone into the river by the bench the dog would be waiting anxiously by the river edge, maybe even gone in after her being a Springer Spaniel. Willow would not have been running about by the kissing gate looking for her.
This too disturbing that this lady was not found by the authorities yet supposedly she’s been found by a local person, my heart goes to her family. 😢😢😢 tragic loss
I am in complete agreement and feel sympathetic towards Peter especially as he has apparently been taken off 'the experts' list' Poor guy, he did his utmost to find Nicola. Something does not ring right with her body not being found after such extensive searches by Peter and police. May the truth be out after the inquest.
There must be something more to the case! I’m aware of her relationship with alcohol, but certainly, if she was drunk, she wouldn’t have the energy to get her girls ready for school and then go on a walk? And if it was suicide, why in a river? It really doesn’t add up. I hope further details are added onto the case, and I hope this poor woman gets the justice she deserves ❤
@Typharius Agreed, most people who attempt suicide without much thought or prior planning, fail more often than not. Those who really mean it will spend time researching it, not wanting to suffer, they will find ways to achieve it with minimal suffering. Cold, dirty water would NOT be my chosen way to go if I were that way inclined. It's highly unlikely if suicide was her intention, she would have taken her beloved dog with her either.
Not true high functioning alcoholics who develop huge tolerances to alcohol (not suggesting she fell into this category) can absolutely get their kids ready for school and go on a walk
Just because she has a few problems doesn't mean she wanted to top herself or even if she had some thoughts of it from time to time it's easy to presume that she killed herself!
Obviously an autopsy will determine how long Nicola was in he water. Peter has helped as much as he could. Only time and real evidence will tell. RIP dear Nicola
I like Peter. He has been honest and open throughout and I trust that he and his team searched that part of the river thoroughly. They're professional and they know what theyre doing. The police have had 3 weeks to find Nicola's body IF it had been there the whole time. I personally think she has been put there by someone quite recently and hidden in the reeds. I've suspected foul play from the start but obviously we are all speculating and will know the truth at some point. It's all very sad. RIP Nicola 😥 ❤
@@nickright7747 Well said. These - mostly women- people are too easily impressed by a smooth talking, self declared expert with a big ego, who would rather come up with absurd speculations before admitting he made a mistake.
So lets get this straight.. Advanced search teams went up and down that shallow river with with state of the art sonar equipment, river mapping systems, divers, search teams, dogs the lot. The river was searched thoroughly and she popped up only 1 mile away where she allegedly fell in and floated during that time and got caught up next to some weeds?
Such a relief this poor lady was found. The story is strange, somehow my instincts are saying there was likely someone else involved in her disappearance. Heart breaking for her family and her little girls, bless them. RIP Nicola.
Your 'instincts?' Who are you, Miss Marple? For goodness sake, you are exactly the type of person the family have been commenting about in their statement. Causing unnecessary distress with theories and wild unfounded speculation. Give it a a rest
@@johnricketts4732 the person on the screen is literally an expert. saying that the police are wrong. and if they are wrong. that could possibly also meen she was murdered. so do you get why this is kinda important.
The police were in that water very quickly on the same day NB went missing and I believe a body will sink before floating. So she wouldn’t have made it to the point she was found with out being spotted. It’s all very odd, but I’m just heartbroken for those poor little girls. 😢
I agree. I also think they would have found Willow in the river, or by the bank of the river wet and barking in distress at the water. Spaniels are great swimmers and love the water. If he's beloved owner fell in he would have gone in too. There is no way he would have been found dry. He's harness was found off, this mean Nicola took it off to allow him to get into the water. I use to do this with my dogs, take collars & harness off so they could get in the water. I believe the water is shallow by the bank? I live next to the river Thames. I use to take my dogs down to the river for a swim. This river is very small compared. I just don't get how she could have drowned? Not unless she went to the bank, slipped and banged her head to a point it knocked her out. But its all grass and mud a slip and bang of the head would not knock a person out. I haven't seen any stones etc. Its seems to set up. Her phone the harness, her body not found for three weeks, the dog dry and not barking at the river? I just feel something is off.
That women died somewhere else and placed into the River later. It’s virtually impossible to walk into a shallow sandbank on route to a narrow river and drown yourself. The guy who found her phone and dog on that sandbank knows a lot more than he is suggesting.
Presumably the autopsy has to ascertain whether or not foul play caused Nicola death or if it was a tragic case that she drowned. Either way it’s heartbreaking for the families and friends. Rest in peace Nicola 💔
There was a similar case in Canada in the early 2000’s when a young man named Joe Grozelle went missing in Kingston Ontario. He was finally found by a passing motorist who spotted him floating when they were driving over the causeway. There was a convergence of waterways where Joe was found. To this day no one knows what happened to him.
Yes, the mystery is that if Nicola wasn't coming back from her walk she wouldn't have bothered with her fit bit and she probably wouldn't have bothered to phone her boss or her friend about a playdate. She wouldn't have bothered to enter a teams call with the other mortgage advisers.
People should hold …options…give the police more time to do their very difficult job…technology is a good thing but now media grabbing easy opportunities to make quick profits fromthis tragedy ,making police job unnecessary more difficult. Sincerely my hart is in pain knowing lovely lady is desist poor very young children at home never,never gone be hugged by beautiful mom.That very tragic sad sad unfortunate tragic ending …Please respect family wishes ….to mourn in private…..Rest in peace Nicola ❤
He failed to find anything, said she definitely wasn't in the water, gave the family false hope and fired rumours about a "decoy phone". Brilliant Job!
@@moggpiano8043 e hasn't failed her, he hasn't failed anyone, the people who failed the family are those who spread rumours, even the lady who accused paul being out at 10.30pm with one his little girls on the path of where nicola was found in the river and the family had not long be told nicola had been found, they are the kind of people who are failers and need to back off.
My heart goes out to Nicola’s family and loved ones. I know it may sound terrible but I’m glad that they finally found Nicola and that her family can have some closure one day. My cousin drowned in a dam 12 years ago last month. He was 17 and his body never found despite extensive searches. For us as a family it was heartbreaking that we couldn’t have a proper burial.
Peter Faulding came on TV 📺 this morning and he doesn't know whete Nicola went into the water, he even said she must have gone into the river elsewhere. I was shocked! 😲 Peter overstated his claim regarding the weir, in my opinion. Nicola went over the weir and I would suggest she went over it that very morning she took her own life. Nicola dove into the river to die, she went to the bottom which is 12 feet deep in one frantic effort, then she didn't have any oxygen left to come up, and passed out, then drowned. That's how people commit suicide in deep water, they head for the bottom until they run out of air, then its over. I feel bad just writing this! It's terrible 😞 The body was then carried away as the river, while slow, it's current is still very powerful. Peter has to step back, acknowledge his mistakes and move on.
I was saying to my mum yesterday that I strongly suspect she was put in the river once the river had been searched. I’m sure this will all come out during the post-mortem but I don’t believe she was in the river for three weeks. I think she was taken and then unfortunately put in the river once the searches were over. Such a sad story and my thoughts are with her family and friends.
On the one hand that's plausible; on the other hand there was a lot of activity in the area and depositing her body there without being seen would be very difficult.
@Dizzy Daydream Why take the chance when you can dump her body literally anywhere else without any risk? That area will be crawling with the public and police.
@@geoffpoole483 Plus a post mortem will show how long she had been in the water. So, if she had only been put there at the weekend that would be massively different from a body that's been in a river for 3 and a half weeks.
@@thenanlife1141 Indeed. Given how suspicious the police have been during this whole situation, why should we expected the coronrer's report to be any more logical or transparent?
Key Evidence Nicola did NOT go in the water at the Bench if the bench is more than 200 meters from Allotment lane. Why did the Police not see this correlation? Between 9:10 to 9:20, Richard Fife seen a strange Man dressed in Black heading towards Nicola at ALLOTMENT LANE. He was about 6'1 and around 45 yrs of age. AROUND 9:35 Veronica Claeson who was in her back yard that backs onto allotment lane heard a short scream, an element of surprise kind of scream. Could it be possible Veronicas watch was off by a few minutes? Nicolas Fitbit recorded Nicola covering a distance of 5438 steps between 8 am to 9:30 am. The last 15 minutes of activity on Nicolas Fitbit from 9:15 - 9:30 recorded Nicola ONLY COVERING 200 METERS OF DISTANCE, which could very well eliminate the polices theory she went in at the bench if it is more than 200 meters from allotment lane. Nicolas Fitbit detected Nicolas Heart Rate rising at 9:22. The time frame by Richard Fife seeing Nicola & the strange Man In Black between 9:10 to 9:20, correlates with the Man in Black, which would explain bruising on both sides of Nicolas arm. Was she grabbed a struggle pursued then held under the water? More likely Penny found the phone ,lead & Willow on or near allotment lane,then had someone take it to the bench area. Someone go walk that walk and message me please with the distance.
I believe it is a tricky case and everyone tried to do their best with the information that was available. Nicola was found, now it's up to the coroner. I just hope it goes swiftly and accurately for the sake of the family and the community. My heart goes out to them during this tragedy. 💛💛💛💛💛
there is no way she randomly ended up there. she was killed, and dropped off in that specific area just recently. my god, this case is just infuriating. no way is this an accidental drowning. someone murdered her.
Why would a killer dump her body where it's already been searched? No requirement to incriminate yourself when they all think she is in the sea and the cops have basically said as much? It would be pointless. Maybe if they cops had Said they are treating it as a murder inquiry then a killer might want to move the body but even then, put her in the river? Seems moronic
There's something very fishy about this case, why wasn't the search successful and the body not found then, why suddenly dog walkers stumble upon a body weeks later? Where was she before this??
Her discovery is suspicious. That small river is very easy to search and only has that one 'snag' point to catch anything. Search teams, from all sides, would have scoured every inch of the river when looking for her. Notice too how it's close to a road and those bushes would also hide anyone placing a body there. It's obvious now that she was originally put somewhere nearby such as a caravan or other property. When things settled a little, her body was placed by the single bush. Whoever did it has local knowledge.
Do you know the area Jack? It's not that easy to search that river and the tides in Morecambe Bay can be very extreme and fast flowing. Also a teenager went missing in the same river in 1978 and his body was found two months later 7 miles away in one of the many streams that branch off from the river two months later so saying a search would be easy is not correct.
Ive got a terrible relationship with alchohol and im not laying upside down in a puddle why didnt they focus in her being a good mum or a good worker twisted!., she was arranging playdate for her and her kids, making plans walking her dog and enjoying her affluent existence. Do you think she randomly threw herself in the river or was drunk at 9 am i dont.
2 ft of water, she is a swimmer, the search was endless. Go figure. Someone did say they thought that she was murdered. Still makes no sense a dry dog, and being a working person would not leave her phone like that.
Let's say you were her and wanted to end it all, dropping your kids off and seeing them one last time sounds like a good start to the day, you join a work group call so everything seems fine on the surface and she's not physically taking part in the call just listening in, she's at work not missing perfect cover ! She takes the dog and leaves her phone on the bench because she wants people to know she's gone and what happened to her, Locals find the phone and dog and recognise her photo with her husband know somethings up and calls the school and authorities ! Doesn't that seem more realistic than jack the ripper ? Outside chance she fell in accidentally, but attacked ? Kidnapped ? Nah ..
One other point to consider, if Nicola had meant to harm herself, wouldn’t she just have driven a little further to Morecambe bay which is known to be a dangerous, treacherous piece of water. Why a river where many visitors, and dog walkers frequent? This is most probably a very tragic accident.
With drowning, the body would sink, then rise a couple of weeks later as gases built up inside, and drift along until it got snagged up in reeds... just as has happened. Wait for the post mortem results before you jump to wild conclusions. None of this speculation does any good, particularly for the lady's family.
I said from day one she was abducted and she’s now been put back into the river. Nobody would convince me they have “missed her” during there search. She’s been put back in, plus right next to the road. I don’t think the police will even give the autopsy results out because the police have come under too much scrutiny. She was murdered
She fell your honour! A mother doesn't go into a river on purpose in the middle of a work meeting, come on! Taken, killed and later dumped in the river. Nicola Bulley did NOT commit suicide.
There’s no way a random murderer would have the balls and knowledge to outsmart all these experts and police and put a body back in the river without being seen or heard.
The Police have a vested interest in exonerating themselves from any accusations of poor service, they'll be breaking their necks to find a scapegoat,the diver guy is most likely the target, however like many i feel there was foul play involved. The location of the body is very convenient for a quick efficient dumping. I simply can't believe the police would overlook searching reeds.
Nicola's body was found just a few metres from the road. The only area the road goes close to the river is where Nicola's body happeend to be. Clearly it had been dumped there a few hours before it was found.
@@harveysmallwood729 because if the body is never found it could mean the police turn it into a murder investigation, potentially someone who killed her panics and decides to dump the body into the water and now the case is closed because she just drowned. It’s all speculation and forensics will have an answer, by the way I’m not saying that’s what I believe I’m just trying to justify why it’s at very least even if it’s 1% chance and that it happened to be at the only place the river goes next to a road something that should be “looked into”
No one walks the dog, takes the dogs harness off, while leaving the mobile phone on the bench and then getting into the river. The police are involved as far as I can see, they were too adamant she was in the river
I thought it was callous of sky news to wait on the river bank and pick people of like the man who found the phone..he didnt agree on an interview like the rest of the town..they just wanted to be left alone and then they had the cheek to criticise armchair detectives yet they 'doorstepped' locals
The man who found Nicola was a medium called Jason Rothwell, I find it a bit odd that the press by enlarge are ignoring that a medium found her, and they are still having a go at members of the public who took it upon themselves to try and find her, if Jason had not set out to find her, she would still be missing. And I believe Peter, she was not in the river, she was either in the reeds, or dumped there, and given the site is just beside a road, there is a strong possibility it was a dump site.
Agree, not a word of thanks from anyone to the people who found her. Because it scuppers their "Reee! public and psychics getting involved!" mantra, just a bit, doesn't it?
I might have some psychic qualities and I thought she was kidnapped or escaped herself via CCTV blindspot but now feels very bizarre that the body has turned up in the same river they originally were looking at and then broadened away from. I felt like the body had been planted there, as it all feels convenient timing, and didn't even know there was a road nearby until now, but hopefully we''ll have the answers soon. I don't even want to offer any further theories now but I'll just say the number 45 did pop up the other day and just learned her age is 45
@@Stallzyx It is only a matter of feet between where she was found and the road, I would say 20 feet at the most, also, it is a very narrow road, and where she was found is the only spot with a small lay-by, where one can park and not block the road.
Even if this poor woman was suffering from menapause symptoms, and did have an issue with alcohol, as someone below has said she couldn't have gotten her children to school, took the dog out and been participating in a conference call/meeting if she were in an intoxicated state. This statement by the police seems to many people a despicable way of somehow excusing whatever gaps there were in the way they handled the investigation and blaming the victim in all of this, which is as bad as saying if a woman goes out wearing a short skirt she should expect to be raped which takes all responsibility for that heinous act away from the rapist, it shows that society has a long way to go in terms of actually learning when to keep their opinions to themselves and taht would have been all that was in this case this womans issues with menapause/alcohol were irrelevant to the way this was handled.
This faulding guy comes along with his super duper high tech investigative equipment to tell the public that she was not in the river.His equipment probably picked up her phone signal, which was on the bench and still active. So how can he say that she was was DEEFFINATLEY not in the river
I believe what Peter Faulding says. He could have walked away and gone underground, but he hasn't. He has sat and looked everyone in the eye and didn't avert his look at anytime. This falls squarely on Lancashire Police's shoulders.
@@frontenac5083 I believe that Peter Faulding had his wings clipped by Lancashire police for being honest and open. Also, this was a fast moving case, and of course things change, hence why his story changed.
@@frontenac5083 You really have this pathetic obsessive agenda to totally discredit Peter Faulding don't you? with you posting something sarcastic every time a person posts in defence of Peter Faulding or is critical of the Police investigation which was by the way totally botched in the first place. Your one man crusade to post against everyone who you don't agree with will just consume you for all eternity as most people are in support of him, also some people still think Paul Ansell had something to do with Nicola's disappearance in the first place and the fact that the body was found in an area that had already been searched 3 times by the Police (which you conveniently forget in your rants against Peter Faulding) has people already speculating that the body had been dumped there quite recently rather than the body had been in the water for 3 weeks solid, especially as it's close to a road. The autopsy report will reveal whether she really did die through accidental drowning or not, and if not then we would know something was never right in the first place.
@@shaukanto6406 "The autopsy report will reveal whether she really did die through accidental drowning or not, and if not then we would know something was never right in the first place." ...and if it does? What does it say about your hero Peter who categorically stated that she was not in the water and it should be a LAND search?
I honestly think he interfered with the investigation, I think that is criminal. He should never have claimed she was not in the river when she was found in the river. He may be playing word salad by saying she was in the reeds but the reeds grow in the river. Clout chaser in my eyes.
@@radicalcartoons2766 Because they believed she may be in that river until the diver said he doesn't believe she is in there. Paul started to question what he once thought. Giving false hope to him and his family. I think they asked him, I don't think anyone was begging. Bit of a sad way to put it.
It's like a portal opened up and took her and then eventually put her back, that river was searched and searched with the best sonar in the world and drones, police dogs, members of the public passing by everyday then all of a sudden she turns up in a place that had already been searched where a member of the public just happens to find her on a walk, all the people on social media going down there and filming themselves searching for her and no one saw her for weeks until one day she's just there for a member of the public to come across, if it turns out the autopsy says she was in the river all the time then the police have a lot to answer to because they dropped the ball on this one
So the police have said she was in the river the whole time, but if they were right they have a lot to answer for? Armchair detectives spouting nonsense to make themselves feel big. It is not a simple process to find a body in a river, the police knew that, all the experts except the self publicising Faulding knew that, they get stuck under branches and in reeds and they move with the water. It's not a swimming pool
surprised the police and an organised mass of volunteers [a big fail imo] didnt clear all the branches / dead reeds/ bracken from the river side -- with weed eaters/ brush cutters; a branch was partly over the river, and NB was under it
Let’s not forget that this man offered his help about 3 days after the search started and he was refused and everyone including him found it strange. Now she apears after so much search? Well she better have water of that river in her lungs otherwise a killer is free. Things did not add up and still don’t
Surely Nicola's body will have evidence of how long it was in the water....I think an independent corner should be appointed by the family to do the autopsy not the police
I know the area well having walked along the river many many times. Anyone who believes that Nicola magically "fell in" to the river, ended up just a mile down river, at the point nearest to Rawcliffe Rd, is on another planet. None of this makes sense. IF, as the police are suggesting, Nicola was feeling down/depressed, and we all know how that feels, then we're expected to believe that she took her dog for a walk and made a zoom call before then, suddenly, deciding to end it all. Rubbish. Painful to have to make such a conclusion, but that's the fact. The Police are beyond incompetent, as innumerable investigations demonstrate. They're more interested in covering their own miserable behinds than getting at the truth. There are so many questions that must be asked. So so often, the truth is very much closer to home than we would like to admit. True, this has become a circus, but we live in a social media world and that's not going to change. But the reason it became a circus is that the scene around the bench was never secured, the official version makes zero sense, the public was allowed to trample up and down the river RIGHT PAST where the body was later placed (which is, I suggest, what happened), interviews were given that clearly did not add up, and a good deal more. The reason the Police were searching six miles down river is exactly because they didn't believe, for a second, that she would be around a mile away from the alleged last sighting. So many assumptions, so much incompetence and failure. Sadly, we cannot trust the authorities. Britain 2023.
Not too sure about judging the police just yet. We don't know what they already suspect and are following up. They will give nothing away because of the risk to ongoing enquiries, especially if they suspect foul play. It's a question of watch this space.
I still think Nicola did fall in the river at the spot near the bench...I think Nicola got up off the bench put her phone down to put Willows harness and lead back on, I think Willow could have jumped up in a playful way and Nicola lost her balance fell backwards and hit her head on the stones she was either knocked out or she could not get back out. And that's the reason Willows harness and lead was found near the edge and not on the bench. And that's also the reason Willow stay in that spot.
@@xaiano794Of course 🤦♂️ an expert team of professional underwater searchers would never consider that a body could move with the flow of the water. Case solved, well done
Because she must have been placed there afterwards, look on Google maps, you can see how accessible the location is from the quiet little road that runs alongside the river. My fear is that the post mortem will show 'unexplained ' or 'misadventure' and before people jump on me, there is no reason for her to enter the river on her own and the river was thoroughly searched before poor Nicola was found. Yes I am being an arm chair sleuth but nothing adds up here.
Oh Peter ? It's 9 months later and you're claiming you found her in the river ? You're doing that to distract from the independent report that came out yesterday and that exposes exactly how opportunistic your behaviour was at this time. Shameful.
'Our remit was not searching the riverbank or the reeds, just under the water' . That's pretty crap excuse because bodies float on the surface, especially after few weeks.. so visually checking the riverbank or the reeds should have been mandatory.
Peter Faulding is intelligent, compassionate, professional, and a man of integrity. He has been exceptional in his work. He has been doing his best to help the family. The incompetent police have blundered enormously. They should have informed Peter Faulding of the information that they realeased to the public when he was taken on board for the investigation. He would have done things differently as he is the expert. Withholding pertinent information from him has been detrimental to the case. Thank you, Peter, for all that you have done and all that you continue to do to assist. We need more people like you.
If Nicola wasn't in the river when they searched it then where has she been all that time? It will be interesting to see how long her body has actually been in the water, it should be pretty easy to tell if it's been there for three weeks or just a few days. There's a strong possibility there has been foul play here and it's far from a closed case unless police do a cover up which is also a possibility. It might be up to the family to come out and reveal the truth.
This is by far the best interview I’ve seen regarding this case. Full credit to the GB news presenter for asking questions that were precise and to the point.
I totally agree the police rely in the public. They cannot pick and choose a freind within a couple of days when Nicola was missing started a Go Fund Me for a target for £100 000, who on earth thinks that's normal?😵
I’m sorry but I can see them already coming out and saying she killed herself which I find highly doubtful seeing as she bothered to join a work conference call just before doing it, no one that’s suicidal would ever do that
As a suicide survivor I'm sure she would have left the dog at home. I don't think she'd want to stress her dog even more. Also someone else in comments has said she'd put her fitbit and she was on a current phone/teams meetings and didn't end the call. I know even though I just wanted to die immediately I couldn't have done it if I hadn't put my dogs into kennels. I had visions of them dying a very slow lonely death. Sorry to be morbid but I don't think suicide is likely. 💔
Because that is what Fraudling has done all along-even 2 weeks ago he was making unsubstantiated claims on TV that there was foul play at work. But i suppose by keeping quiet he doesn't get the publicity to promote his newly published book
However, the phone on the bench with unfinished teams call and the abandonment of Willow may have been a final goodbye message like goodbye I can't carry on!
Because yet again the point where body was salvaged was not cordoned off and no forensic search was conducted. After the body was clumsily salvaged with a lack of equipment and lack of manpower, after the police and the body and all the police cars had left on Sunday, a member of the public found, on the site, by the submerged tree on the bank, a fragment of bluish cloth from a coat which looked like the coat NB had been wearing. And shown on youtube. If 2 months from now an autopsy discloses either marks inconsistent with drowning or declare the body not immersed for 3 weeks, then it will be too bloody late to do a forensic check on the site where the body was recovered. That had to be done on the day and was not done. That's the answer to yr Q "Why not wait on the coroner's findings..." Those findings have already been compromised by police mishandling - - and that's not bad p-r, that's bad operations.
I said to my partner yesterday that Nicola was placed there after the search, this case makes no sense. Police know more but not saying. Very strange. This is even worse for the family. London
Peter I think is great actually. He was helping. Everyone should wait to hear the coroners report. But, simple solution here, go back on the sonar video's footage. Work your way back from that point in the river, ! Study the footage, surely this has already been done?
respect for Peter?? hahaha. He is nothing but a wannabe big time Charlie pretending to be an expert, when he is really yet another fraud offering the world, but delivering sweet f all. He failed miserably whilst consistently making woeful assumptions.
Peter Faulding and his crew missed her. Human error as well as bungled. Pathetic excuses to save his reputation. She accidentally drowned after falling; her clothes pulled her under.
There’s no way that this specialist team who searched the water would’ve missed the body in the reeds when they were at that point in the water where Nicolas body has been found..after all the two dog walkers spotted the body easily enough didn’t they..all very strange
Local migrants seem good for it, the reason why her body wasn't found is they hadn't dumped it yet. They are always dragging woman and children off the streets and when they fight back or they fear punishment they do this.
The sonar guy emphasised several times it wasn't his job to search in the reeds, he would have been watching the monitor observing the river bed as they went passed that spot. The view of reed beds from water level is much different than the view from higher up on the banking looking down
I don’t believe she was there either, I think foul play unfortunately, this whole case and the police response has been utterly bizarre and so many protocols missed. RIP beautiful lady ❤
Why weren't the reeds searched. The dumbest search. Drove past the reeds but did not search why. Wouldn't a body get trapped in reeds failings are not being admitted.
The body was found quiet near to the road .would a person take that chance yes a mentally disturbed person would . In plain sight as they have no self awareness . Just my opinion
You are going to lose. Autopsy will show 3 weeks in the water. It still confuses me how people don't understand rivers. Bodies can take weeks to be found, it is literally in the news all the time!
@@Shaungreener1 mate, you're the sheep. Don't you find it ironic how everyone that thinks like you uses the exact same terminology? "You're a sheep" they all bleated.
I think for myself and don't really believe what the media tells me but you people call us conspiracy theorist.. once you realise the bias in the media
Lancashire Police need to specify: 1. How many days Nicola's body was in the water. 2. if there was evidence of violence on Nicola's body 3. If Nicola's body was weighed down or tethered at the point of discovery. The 10 Jan 23 call to the police may have been staged anticipating an ("assisted") disappearance on 27 Jan 23. This sounds horrible, but so is the gruesome demise of Nicola in the river. We need this information to nail any third party if they are involved, and to be fair to Nicola's loved ones. Nicola had children. So the suicide theory is very unlikely.
I agree. Sonar cannot see into reeds. BUT even to me it is obvious a reed bed or tree with branches in the water is the perfect snag point. Are they also saying Divers DID NOT search in the reed beds?? YES or NO ? SOMEONE SHOULD ASK THIS QUESTION OF THE POLICE !!
He’s an expert at passing the buck. She was under the water, that was his remit. The fact she was in the reeds is irrelevant. What the land team were meant to go in the river to check the reeds. Absolute nonsense
How can divers search in reed beds clever clogs? The key word is “divers”. You can’t dive under a reed bed can you it’s essentially land. So to answer your stupid question NO divers did not dive into the reed bed to search for her that is a job for police teams.
@@mikeymike621 Mikeymike621. I was having a rubbish day until I read that...cheered me right up😁😅 Here is a picture for you to do some colouring in Mikey. 🐻❄ enjoy.
I’ve been following this case since the beginning. I’ve also recently found AD and his channels. I’m of the opinion Question everything even if I turn out to be wrong. But I’m careful what I share publicly as there is people out there who are looking to attack you online and use what you say against you. I’ve been watching Peter Faulding since he offered his expertise. At first I was hopeful he would find her after all he has the equipment and the expertise in this field. Then when he didn’t find her after saying he would if she was indeed in the river, I was a thinking hmmmm is he doing this for the publicity and talk is cheap. But now reading the backlash he is getting public and after listening to an interview he did after she was found, I’m more of the opinion something isn’t right. He has recordings from his time searching on the river, now he is off the case and under review. Am I reading into this too much? Or is there a cover up going on? “She was not in that part of the river the day we searched. Yes, where she was found, we drove past with a sonar and it was crystal clear, nothing, no sign.” “The top part above the Wyre is non tidal it flows one way, once you get over the Wyre it’s a tidal river, every 6 hours there is a turn of the tide…so anything lodged can go out and back in, what I find very strange is she hasn’t gone very far, I would have expected her to go further in 3 weeks.” Peter Faulding
I said this all along , she was never in there whoever killed her used the river as a scapegoat because the police constantly said she drowned in the river
No "thank you" from anyone for the two members of the public who found her, one of whom is a practicing psychic on Facebook. If it wasn't for them, who knows how long the family would have had to wait. Seems to me that the criticism of public involvement is unwarranted.
Well, we won't know how long Nicola was in the water until the autopsy report is made public. That in itself could tell investigators a lot about the circumstances involved in her death.
If Mr. Faulding didn't find her body in that area where her body was found,that means her body wasn't there. I think that her body was put into that area by her murderer as the police were so adamant that she went into the river. It is the perfect way for the murderer to hide the fact they killed her. I hope that an autopsy is performed to determine her actual death.
She was in the reeds and Peter had already said many times now the sonar does not work on reeds so no they wouldnt have found her there anyway. Waders were supposed to be checking those areas so either the Police didn't check properly or she was put there at a different point
@@woowah32 Even if the autopsy confirms it wasn't a murder, some of the numpties on here will claim the results are wrong. They are so desperate for the police to be wrong. It's really bizarre.
@MsSmartmonkee Why would anyone go to the trouble of placing a body into water where there was most likely a strong police presence when they could have put a body anywhere else where there would be a no police presence?
10000% agree with Peter.
3 weeks of intensive searching, drones, dogs, divers, land searching then attention comes away from the river, all of a sudden her body is found on the river bank next to a secluded road.
all those twists and turns amd shallow areas. I refuse to believe she drowned and travelled that far. I honestly believe she was killed and placed in the location she was found
I also agree with you both. Definitely foul play. It's very sad. I hope the truth will be found.
Very strange
I'm afraid I agree with you as well, I think it seems far too likely that her body was put back in the river after someone thought that the police had finished searching there. Her poor family.
On the day of News of Nicola's body having been found, that Monday the 18th Feb, early morning hours around 1.30am I had watched a Documentary on Netflix called "Unsolved Mysteries", what a coincidence, not knowing that next morning I would hear that Nicola's body had been found waiting identification, which made me think circumstances of her disappearance looked so similar.
In this Unsolved Mystery, a man called Pat had disappeared without a trace except his boat was found 9 miles off shore, the local police searched the area around where he would have been likely to have travelled, but nothing was found and then weeks or days later his body surfaced, where it was anticipated, not 9 miles off shore where his boat was found without any trace of him.
Nicolas case has very similar tones, an abduction, rape and murder and then dumped could not be ruled out, only an expert performing the autopsy could determine along with forensics.
That said alone, I offer my heart felt condolences to her family and friends, who all tried in vein to find her alive, I too was very hopeful that she would be found well. Deeply saddened that she is no longer with us.
It's a mystery indeed
Lets just wait for the autopsy. It should tell us how long she had been in the water,and whether she drowned. Very tragic case
I'm glad someone on here has some common sense
they might not be able to tell the cause of death after such a long time in the water, which is frustrating as then the speculation will never stop
Exactly.. shouldn't they wait for the autopsy? Speculation does nothing.
It,s just so unbelievable that the reeds we're never searched. ! A most likely place where a body would end up. Why why didn't they search the reeds and river bank. ?
Or did they, but the info. isn't very clear coming out.?
Peter Faulding is not at fault, he offered his services for free to the family, he couldn’t even get his boat in that far, but he did try, Thank you Peter Faulding for everything you did for that family..
He loves himself he's bigged himself up and made him look a joke , ive lived my life along that river since i was a small boy and my friend drowned in that river so i know it well , the reeds are the first place to look, my Dad was a farmer along that river if we lost sheep or cows they always turned up in the reeds sometime 3 or 4 weeks later, its a dark danc evil river.
@@brendan1522 I agree with you.
He failed, simple as that.
@@brendan1522 Maybe you should have gone and had a look Brendan.
Your knowledge and expertise was badly needed.
@@brendan1522
Thanks sorry to hear about your friend. Obvious it’s going to get trapped in reeds Anything would that’s floating in the water will get trapped in them for that idiot to think Nicola was going to stay in open water it was never gonna happen. You made a perfect description that clown thank you.
I think Peter did a 100% thorough job.
It WAS NOT his place to search reeds at the higher level, OR reeds in the water - (he would have made police aware from the start that his equipment could NOT see through reeds) but to use his specialised equipment at lower levels, which he did.
It was the police and police diver’s responsibility to search the reeds at ALL LEVELS full stop!
Searching ANY reeds was NOT Peters department.
I can’t believe how easily people “turn”!
Peter did this out of kindness.
Poor bloke, I really feel for him.
Peter is 100% at fault because he openly said on tv that there was no body in that river since him and and his team had searched it all and would have found a body if there was one in there. Never once did he explain that a body could still be in the reeds areas of the river because his equipment wasn’t able to search them.
The police would have been better off not bringing him in, seeing that in the end it was armchair detectives that found Nicola’s body, not him or his team. He did no good and plenty of harm
@@cultfiction3865no I think she was placed there after.
@@hampter_gaming404 rubbish, this guy is full of BS, my friend fell in a river, same kind of search and he turned up four weeks later two miles away. She was in the river.
He did it out of self aggrandisement, and a book to sell. I bet the family regret involving him.
@@hardlines2635 Sorry to hear that Pat. Yes that is the usual pattern of this sort of thing.
I believe Peter did his best with his expertise. People have discredited him. There is more to this case than meets the eye. Much love to Nicola's family. God bless you all.x
……yes, Joanna, I totally concur that there’s more to be revealed in the goodness of time……
She wasn't in the water while the divers searched . She was put in the water when they finished searching
I find it strange that her body only traveled 1 mile in 3 weeks. And that mile was inspected multiple times. And on the day she went missing the river was only 2 feet deep where her phone was found. And where her body was found was only 10 meters from a road. Easiest place where somebody could have dumped her body in the river. Something just isn't right with all this.
The police will know a lot of that from tests. It's not far at all from where her phone was to past the weir. So the depth where her phone was is likely irrelevant.
It was only 2 ft deep at the very edge near the bench and was much deeper in the middle. She will also have travelled further than you think because that part of the river is tidal so it's possible to move some distance in and out with the tides. It was high tide at Fleetwood at 10.20am the morning she went missing and a bit later at the location where she was found at approx 11.30am.
Start with HMG and security services
Definitely a killer on the loose in that town. Something doesn't add up at all.
@@Gazzab6 but where she was found she wouldn't have got as far as the tidal part to be swept out and back in again as the sonar man said.
I don't get how the dogs could not smell the body if she was there all along
Maybe she wasn’t ..🤷🏻♂️
Exactly 💯
They would of!
@@sinceresong9907 would have.
@@TheLuminousOne Really? People got time.
This man is an expert in his field. He knows his stuff. People should listen to him.
How do you know that?
@@owlinthewoodBecause Peter told us so 😂
Peter now tells us he seen the body. Which version of Peter should we believe?
I certainly don't believe peter
@@lorriegreen7110 you did at first 🤣
I may be wrong, but Peter seems like such a genuine, genuine guy. I'm on his side with all this. I could be wrong though. I do see and feel a genuine guy in him. Peter is only one I trust at moment. I think he and his team did their very best. I just hope all truth comes out for Nicola, her parents and her children. This whole case has fascinated me and it's upset me more than I thought it would. Feels like I knew Nicola...just so so sad.
You are indeed wrong.
He's a complete self-serving fool.
I also think Peter Faulding is a decent guy, and doesn't deserve the criticism he is getting! BUT he didn't do himself any favours at the start of this investigation with his boastful claims, I think it wound people up!
@tonyanastasio6959 I agree with you.
There’s still so many unanswered questions about this strange case . RIP to Nicola
I think Peter did a good job..and the body was put there after search
I agree with Peter. I hope he stands strong whilst the police try to cancel him because he's ruined the narrative . He's breaking down the BS
i think this is very odd , I can't see how teams of people missed a body lying in the weeds that a dog walker spotted - such a tragedy
Saddos on this channel just love a conspiracy theory, don’t they?
@@MKRM27 you're right, but so's Blue... We should all just let the police do their thing.
@@headbobgunpants4858 let the police do their thing? cover up child abuse gangs, murder women, and employ rapists? lol. did yo9u just wake up from a coma?
Peter himself said at 1:10 that he can’t see into the reeds.
@@MKRM27 You have a conspiracy theory that they are making up conspiracy theories here.
I found a body in the Thames near Chiswick many years ago & it's a sight I will never unsee. I did have contact with the police afterwards and the autopsy revealed exactly what had happened to the gentleman. He had been in the water for approximately 4 weeks so I was surprised by the findings after such a time frame. Science has moved on & I wish for a definite conclusion with Nicola and hopeful her family can put to rest all the speculation and accusations from some of the public, media, etc. once and for all.
Well done, it sounds like a terrible ordeal for you.
Do you recall how long it took for the findings to be made public ?
@@flowerjpotter1629 most autopsy are at least 6-8 weeks unless rushed or something comes up. Also depends state of the body.
@@flowerjpotter1629I really don't know, but I expect these things are released into the public domaine as soon as the Coroners's report comes through. This was in the mid-80s - so before the internet.
My Dad found our tortoise dead and we ahd this conversation- (I was 13 at the the time- : he said death and the smell of death is something you never forget. Its built into humanity effectively.
After 4 weeks ........
I found a dead rat recentlly........I can only sympathise.
It's mad innit, adult finds a body it's a traumatic event. Kids find it it's a local attraction with sticks to poke.
You'd see a body from a mile away in some reeds. Someone put the body there to look like she drowned. They need to do a postmortem for marks on the body, dna ect ASAP. This is looking more like a murder then a accident. Why would she go in the water for a start, why would she leave her phone in a obvious place, why wouldn't she of call for help or told someone like the husband or the police what happened before she decided to risk her life in the water. The whole thing makes zero sense. It's clearly a murder/rape. Her body disappeared for 3 weeks and all of a sudden it appears by a river after they finished looking for her in it. Wake the hell up. The police should be shamed for not doing there part not this guy who went above and beyond for this women.
Well said!
I believe she was put in the river, after the river search was called off. Plus the area was not sealed off or monitored 24/7. I hope that the post mortem is a thorough job, with full integrity, and not just a bish bash job cos they suspect it's suicide.
I don't believe she was an alcoholic, she drove her kids to school, took the dog walkies and called and texted people. Unless someone pretended to be her. She did not leave her girls and kill herself. God please help her children, and expose and hurt who ever hurt her. RiP✝️
@@SL-ud7tf She could have fallen in due to a stroke, heart attack or some other such medical occurrence. Just a year ago, my brother fell into a moderately deep drain and died. The autopsy revealed he had a heart attack which is why he could not get himself out. He was never diagnosed for heart problems.. It happens.
Agree.
Do you know the area because if you don't you can't be that sure. Also the find of the body proved what they thought due to how she was when found.
That point of the river where she was found is right next to the road. I think she was put there later. If she had gone into the river by the bench the dog would be waiting anxiously by the river edge, maybe even gone in after her being a Springer Spaniel. Willow would not have been running about by the kissing gate looking for her.
This too disturbing that this lady was not found by the authorities yet supposedly she’s been found by a local person, my heart goes to her family. 😢😢😢 tragic loss
My heart goes out to her 2 children.
What about her partner or is he irrelevant ?
All of family
Same and all of her loved ones. So sad xx
@@iniquity123 her partner hasn't even made a statement yet not even for someone else to read out. Her parents etc have.
I am in complete agreement and feel sympathetic towards Peter especially as he has apparently been taken off 'the experts' list'
Poor guy, he did his utmost to find Nicola. Something does not ring right with her body not being found after such extensive searches by Peter and police. May the truth be out after the inquest.
the inquest said accidental drowning.
There must be something more to the case! I’m aware of her relationship with alcohol, but certainly, if she was drunk, she wouldn’t have the energy to get her girls ready for school and then go on a walk? And if it was suicide, why in a river? It really doesn’t add up. I hope further details are added onto the case, and I hope this poor woman gets the justice she deserves ❤
Doubt she was drunk 24/7 as she drove the car to school before taking the dog on a walk .
I agree with you 100%!
@Typharius Agreed, most people who attempt suicide without much thought or prior planning, fail more often than not. Those who really mean it will spend time researching it, not wanting to suffer, they will find ways to achieve it with minimal suffering. Cold, dirty water would NOT be my chosen way to go if I were that way inclined. It's highly unlikely if suicide was her intention, she would have taken her beloved dog with her either.
Not true high functioning alcoholics who develop huge tolerances to alcohol (not suggesting she fell into this category) can absolutely get their kids ready for school and go on a walk
Just because she has a few problems doesn't mean she wanted to top herself or even if she had some thoughts of it from time to time it's easy to presume that she killed herself!
Obviously an autopsy will determine how long Nicola was in he water. Peter has helped as much as he could. Only time and real evidence will tell. RIP dear Nicola
I like Peter. He has been honest and open throughout and I trust that he and his team searched that part of the river thoroughly. They're professional and they know what theyre doing. The police have had 3 weeks to find Nicola's body IF it had been there the whole time. I personally think she has been put there by someone quite recently and hidden in the reeds. I've suspected foul play from the start but obviously we are all speculating and will know the truth at some point. It's all very sad. RIP Nicola 😥 ❤
Rumour a bloke went to blackpool Victoria hospital and said he did it and dumped the body in the river ? Attention seeker or nut case.
Definately ! He’s a truth full and honest man and he knows his stuff !!
Exactly! I believe Peter… there is something very wrong with this case.
If Peter couldn't find her, that's one thing, but his incessant meddling with things outside his remit was inexcusable.
@@nickright7747 Well said. These - mostly women- people are too easily impressed by a smooth talking, self declared expert with a big ego, who would rather come up with absurd speculations before admitting he made a mistake.
So lets get this straight.. Advanced search teams went up and down that shallow river with with state of the art sonar equipment, river mapping systems, divers, search teams, dogs the lot. The river was searched thoroughly and she popped up only 1 mile away where she allegedly fell in and floated during that time and got caught up next to some weeds?
Yep.tell me a body wasn't dumped.
Psychic found her? Jeez....
Such a relief this poor lady was found. The story is strange, somehow my instincts are saying there was likely someone else involved in her disappearance. Heart breaking for her family and her little girls, bless them. RIP Nicola.
I agree, she was put there later. I’m anxious to find out if there was water in her lungs. She may not have drowned.
Your 'instincts?' Who are you, Miss Marple? For goodness sake, you are exactly the type of person the family have been commenting about in their statement. Causing unnecessary distress with theories and wild unfounded speculation. Give it a a rest
forensic will find out
Does the media not understand that this is just what the family don't want. Let the poor lady rest.
@@johnricketts4732 the person on the screen is literally an expert. saying that the police are wrong. and if they are wrong. that could possibly also meen she was murdered.
so do you get why this is kinda important.
The police were in that water very quickly on the same day NB went missing and I believe a body will sink before floating. So she wouldn’t have made it to the point she was found with out being spotted. It’s all very odd, but I’m just heartbroken for those poor little girls. 😢
Nice to know there are intelligent people out there.
It would have sunk but then refloated after 5 days. So why wasn't she seen by that diving expert in his boat
Saddos on this channel just love a conspiracy theory, don’t they?
I agree. I also think they would have found Willow in the river, or by the bank of the river wet and barking in distress at the water. Spaniels are great swimmers and love the water. If he's beloved owner fell in he would have gone in too. There is no way he would have been found dry. He's harness was found off, this mean Nicola took it off to allow him to get into the water. I use to do this with my dogs, take collars & harness off so they could get in the water. I believe the water is shallow by the bank? I live next to the river Thames. I use to take my dogs down to the river for a swim. This river is very small compared. I just don't get how she could have drowned? Not unless she went to the bank, slipped and banged her head to a point it knocked her out. But its all grass and mud a slip and bang of the head would not knock a person out. I haven't seen any stones etc. Its seems to set up. Her phone the harness, her body not found for three weeks, the dog dry and not barking at the river? I just feel something is off.
She was probably murdered and put back in the river, similar thing happened near me
That women died somewhere else and placed into the River later. It’s virtually impossible to walk into a shallow sandbank on route to a narrow river and drown yourself. The guy who found her phone and dog on that sandbank knows a lot more than he is suggesting.
Presumably the autopsy has to ascertain whether or not foul play caused Nicola death or if it was a tragic case that she drowned. Either way it’s heartbreaking for the families and friends. Rest in peace Nicola 💔
Away from her mbl unless as i thought a work colleague called and lured her away to the river area et etc why he mbl still on bench this is big issue.
Personally I don t believe she drowned !
@@lindsayives4915 Elegantly put
@@thesaint8400 🤣
@@thenanlife1141 your personal beliefs matter very little until the autopsy
They can tell if she died in the water and when.
What kind of work these men do is amazing& I believe this man, it’s just awful, the job is hard enough without having this interrogation now ❤🙏
Same could be said about the police.
@@richardthomas175 yes that’s very true Richard, gods bless all the men& women who serve to keep us safe
There was a similar case in Canada in the early 2000’s when a young man named Joe Grozelle went missing in Kingston Ontario. He was finally found by a passing motorist who spotted him floating when they were driving over the causeway. There was a convergence of waterways where Joe was found. To this day no one knows what happened to him.
Yes, the mystery is that if Nicola wasn't coming back from her walk she wouldn't have bothered with her fit bit and she probably wouldn't have bothered to phone her boss or her friend about a playdate. She wouldn't have bothered to enter a teams call with the other mortgage advisers.
@@dianamincher6479 Yes exactly sound's like foul play if you ask me.
People should hold …options…give the police more time to do their very difficult job…technology is a good thing but now media grabbing easy opportunities to make quick profits fromthis tragedy ,making police job unnecessary more difficult. Sincerely my hart is in pain knowing lovely lady is desist poor very young children at home never,never gone be hugged by beautiful mom.That very tragic sad sad unfortunate tragic ending …Please respect family wishes ….to mourn in private…..Rest in peace Nicola ❤
@@dianamincher6479 strange that two canoes were found nearby where she was found, seeing as it’s such a secluded stretch
@@Buddhavibez also strange how it took the body to travel one mile in three weeks and all the experts couldn't find it in that time Very fishy
Peter you are a gentleman and you offered your help for free. I am sorry people are against you now.thank you for your work!🙏👍🏼
Amen!
I know how Nicola was missed and it wasnt Peters teams fault.
You did a brilliant job Peter. The autopsy will reveal the truth. Rest in peace nicola a beautiful lady who was in the prime of her life.
Indeed. A tragedy for her family, may her soul find rest in God. 🙏
He failed to find anything, said she definitely wasn't in the water, gave the family false hope and fired rumours about a "decoy phone".
Brilliant Job!
@@moggpiano8043 e hasn't failed her, he hasn't failed anyone, the people who failed the family are those who spread rumours, even the lady who accused paul being out at 10.30pm with one his little girls on the path of where nicola was found in the river and the family had not long be told nicola had been found, they are the kind of people who are failers and need to back off.
My heart goes out to Nicola’s family and loved ones. I know it may sound terrible but I’m glad that they finally found Nicola and that her family can have some closure one day. My cousin drowned in a dam 12 years ago last month. He was 17 and his body never found despite extensive searches. For us as a family it was heartbreaking that we couldn’t have a proper burial.
She was a drunk
Bless you and your family 🙏. I can't possibly imagine how difficult that has been for you all x
@@IBTU
And you are a heartless monster.
Peter Faulding came on TV 📺 this morning and he doesn't know whete Nicola went into the water, he even said she must have gone into the river elsewhere. I was shocked! 😲
Peter overstated his claim regarding the weir, in my opinion. Nicola went over the weir and I would suggest she went over it that very morning she took her own life.
Nicola dove into the river to die, she went to the bottom which is 12 feet deep in one frantic effort, then she didn't have any oxygen left to come up, and passed out, then drowned. That's how people commit suicide in deep water, they head for the bottom until they run out of air, then its over. I feel bad just writing this! It's terrible 😞
The body was then carried away as the river, while slow, it's current is still very powerful.
Peter has to step back, acknowledge his mistakes and move on.
@@fernfreeman1729 I can't believe he's still parading around his stupid meaningless opinions like anyone is supposed to care. He's so boring.
I was saying to my mum yesterday that I strongly suspect she was put in the river once the river had been searched. I’m sure this will all come out during the post-mortem but I don’t believe she was in the river for three weeks. I think she was taken and then unfortunately put in the river once the searches were over. Such a sad story and my thoughts are with her family and friends.
On the one hand that's plausible; on the other hand there was a lot of activity in the area and depositing her body there without being seen would be very difficult.
@Dizzy Daydream
Why take the chance when you can dump her body literally anywhere else without any risk? That area will be crawling with the public and police.
@@geoffpoole483 Plus a post mortem will show how long she had been in the water. So, if she had only been put there at the weekend that would be massively different from a body that's been in a river for 3 and a half weeks.
I do agree
@@thenanlife1141 Indeed. Given how suspicious the police have been during this whole situation, why should we expected the coronrer's report to be any more logical or transparent?
Key Evidence Nicola did NOT go in the water at the Bench if the bench is more than 200 meters from Allotment lane. Why did the Police not see this correlation? Between 9:10 to 9:20, Richard Fife seen a strange Man dressed in Black heading towards Nicola at ALLOTMENT LANE. He was about 6'1 and around 45 yrs of age. AROUND 9:35 Veronica Claeson who was in her back yard that backs onto allotment lane heard a short scream, an element of surprise kind of scream. Could it be possible Veronicas watch was off by a few minutes? Nicolas Fitbit recorded Nicola covering a distance of 5438 steps between 8 am to 9:30 am. The last 15 minutes of activity on Nicolas Fitbit from 9:15 - 9:30 recorded Nicola ONLY COVERING 200 METERS OF DISTANCE, which could very well eliminate the polices theory she went in at the bench if it is more than 200 meters from allotment lane. Nicolas Fitbit detected Nicolas Heart Rate rising at 9:22. The time frame by Richard Fife seeing Nicola & the strange Man In Black between 9:10 to 9:20, correlates with the Man in Black, which would explain bruising on both sides of Nicolas arm. Was she grabbed a struggle pursued then held under the water? More likely Penny found the phone ,lead & Willow on or near allotment lane,then had someone take it to the bench area. Someone go walk that walk and message me please with the distance.
I believe it is a tricky case and everyone tried to do their best with the information that was available. Nicola was found, now it's up to the coroner. I just hope it goes swiftly and accurately for the sake of the family and the community. My heart goes out to them during this tragedy. 💛💛💛💛💛
there is no way she randomly ended up there. she was killed, and dropped off in that specific area just recently. my god, this case is just infuriating. no way is this an accidental drowning. someone murdered her.
Some people seem to be desperately hoping it was a murder just to prove the police wrong. It's just so weird.
@@chriswilkinson7636 no we want justice. And so easy to leave it alone.
@@marvinlewis5591 If the evidence doesn't suggest it was murder then that's all the police can go off.
Why would a killer dump her body where it's already been searched? No requirement to incriminate yourself when they all think she is in the sea and the cops have basically said as much? It would be pointless. Maybe if they cops had Said they are treating it as a murder inquiry then a killer might want to move the body but even then, put her in the river? Seems moronic
I believe so too
There's something very fishy about this case, why wasn't the search successful and the body not found then, why suddenly dog walkers stumble upon a body weeks later? Where was she before this??
Her discovery is suspicious. That small river is very easy to search and only has that one 'snag' point to catch anything. Search teams, from all sides, would have scoured every inch of the river when looking for her. Notice too how it's close to a road and those bushes would also hide anyone placing a body there.
It's obvious now that she was originally put somewhere nearby such as a caravan or other property. When things settled a little, her body was placed by the single bush. Whoever did it has local knowledge.
Yep
Oh yeah 👍 correctly stated
Spot on.
Do you know the area Jack? It's not that easy to search that river and the tides in Morecambe Bay can be very extreme and fast flowing. Also a teenager went missing in the same river in 1978 and his body was found two months later 7 miles away in one of the many streams that branch off from the river two months later so saying a search would be easy is not correct.
SERIOUSLY? why won't this guy go away?
Ive got a terrible relationship with alchohol and im not laying upside down in a puddle why didnt they focus in her being a good mum or a good worker twisted!., she was arranging playdate for her and her kids, making plans walking her dog and enjoying her affluent existence. Do you think she randomly threw herself in the river or was drunk at 9 am i dont.
2 ft of water, she is a swimmer, the search was endless. Go figure. Someone did say they thought that she was murdered. Still makes no sense a dry dog, and being a working person would not leave her phone like that.
Let's say you were her and wanted to end it all, dropping your kids off and seeing them one last time sounds like a good start to the day, you join a work group call so everything seems fine on the surface and she's not physically taking part in the call just listening in, she's at work not missing perfect cover !
She takes the dog and leaves her phone on the bench because she wants people to know she's gone and what happened to her,
Locals find the phone and dog and recognise her photo with her husband know somethings up and calls the school and authorities !
Doesn't that seem more realistic than jack the ripper ?
Outside chance she fell in accidentally, but attacked ? Kidnapped ? Nah ..
@@gtt8428 It does sound plausible
To be fair, if she fell and hit her head on a rock as she went in, it wouldn’t matter if she could swim.
@@luns486 yes sure, but she would have been spotted in this shallow part of the river straight away...
One other point to consider, if Nicola had meant to harm herself, wouldn’t she just have driven a little further to Morecambe bay which is known to be a dangerous, treacherous piece of water. Why a river where many visitors, and dog walkers frequent? This is most probably a very tragic accident.
IF this was drowning, she didn't die in the reeds. This case is totally suspicious STILL.
With drowning, the body would sink, then rise a couple of weeks later as gases built up inside, and drift along until it got snagged up in reeds... just as has happened. Wait for the post mortem results before you jump to wild conclusions. None of this speculation does any good, particularly for the lady's family.
You do know bodies move in rivers?
Bodies rise after a few weeks .
Total trust and support to Peter Faulding... I share 100% his feedback
I said from day one she was abducted and she’s now been put back into the river. Nobody would convince me they have “missed her” during there search. She’s been put back in, plus right next to the road. I don’t think the police will even give the autopsy results out because the police have come under too much scrutiny. She was murdered
She fell your honour! A mother doesn't go into a river on purpose in the middle of a work meeting, come on! Taken, killed and later dumped in the river. Nicola Bulley did NOT commit suicide.
There’s no way a random murderer would have the balls and knowledge to outsmart all these experts and police and put a body back in the river without being seen or heard.
@@mikeymike621totally. Who is going to risk carrying a body all the way back to the crime scene ?
The Police have a vested interest in exonerating themselves from any accusations of poor service, they'll be breaking their necks to find a scapegoat,the diver guy is most likely the target, however like many i feel there was foul play involved.
The location of the body is very convenient for a quick efficient dumping.
I simply can't believe the police would overlook searching reeds.
@@mikeymike621 so what happened then?
Nicola's body was found just a few metres from the road. The only area the road goes close to the river is where Nicola's body happeend to be. Clearly it had been dumped there a few hours before it was found.
Why would you dump the body in a river that is being continuously monitored and searched by the police when you could dump it literally anywhere else
@@harveysmallwood729 To cast doubt on any foul play
Yep!
@@harveysmallwood729 because if the body is never found it could mean the police turn it into a murder investigation, potentially someone who killed her panics and decides to dump the body into the water and now the case is closed because she just drowned. It’s all speculation and forensics will have an answer, by the way I’m not saying that’s what I believe I’m just trying to justify why it’s at very least even if it’s 1% chance and that it happened to be at the only place the river goes next to a road something that should be “looked into”
that's very possible. They may have thought all searches of The nearby to rd was stopped. All focus had moved towards the sea.
No one walks the dog, takes the dogs harness off, while leaving the mobile phone on the bench and then getting into the river. The police are involved as far as I can see, they were too adamant she was in the river
She was put in the river
The media complaining about the social media attention, is like Jimmy Saville complaining about Prince Andrew.
😂😂😂
I thought it was callous of sky news to wait on the river bank and pick people of like the man who found the phone..he didnt agree on an interview like the rest of the town..they just wanted to be left alone and then they had the cheek to criticise armchair detectives yet they 'doorstepped' locals
suspicious isn't it? :/
More like Jimmy Savile to Gary Glitter. Andrew didn’t get found guilty of anything and Guiffre wasn’t remotely a child.
@danicali they should of cordoned of the area then
The man who found Nicola was a medium called Jason Rothwell, I find it a bit odd that the press by enlarge are ignoring that a medium found her, and they are still having a go at members of the public who took it upon themselves to try and find her, if Jason had not set out to find her, she would still be missing. And I believe Peter, she was not in the river, she was either in the reeds, or dumped there, and given the site is just beside a road, there is a strong possibility it was a dump site.
@@MissJensk1 it is true he is a medium , look it up instead of not believing that
Agree, not a word of thanks from anyone to the people who found her. Because it scuppers their "Reee! public and psychics getting involved!" mantra, just a bit, doesn't it?
I might have some psychic qualities and I thought she was kidnapped or escaped herself via CCTV blindspot but now feels very bizarre that the body has turned up in the same river they originally were looking at and then broadened away from. I felt like the body had been planted there, as it all feels convenient timing, and didn't even know there was a road nearby until now, but hopefully we''ll have the answers soon. I don't even want to offer any further theories now but I'll just say the number 45 did pop up the other day and just learned her age is 45
@@Stallzyx It is only a matter of feet between where she was found and the road, I would say 20 feet at the most, also, it is a very narrow road, and where she was found is the only spot with a small lay-by, where one can park and not block the road.
What nightmare fuel to be a diver searching underwater for a body. RIP Nicola 😥🌹
Don't worry.
No diver has come even close to a dead body in this case.
@@frontenac5083 who lifted her out then.
WHAT IS ''NIGHTMARE FUEL''
I still think there is something strange about this Case!
Even if this poor woman was suffering from menapause symptoms, and did have an issue with alcohol, as someone below has said she couldn't have gotten her children to school, took the dog out and been participating in a conference call/meeting if she were in an intoxicated state. This statement by the police seems to many people a despicable way of somehow excusing whatever gaps there were in the way they handled the investigation and blaming the victim in all of this, which is as bad as saying if a woman goes out wearing a short skirt she should expect to be raped which takes all responsibility for that heinous act away from the rapist, it shows that society has a long way to go in terms of actually learning when to keep their opinions to themselves and taht would have been all that was in this case this womans issues with menapause/alcohol were irrelevant to the way this was handled.
Dan.... For 3 weeks ive followed this and tonight yours was the best. Tactful and direct and just what some are thinking
RESPECT to Peter faulting. Strong man. 💪 Truth is like a sword.
*faulding
@@danrowe4068 ah ha
This faulding guy comes along with his super duper high tech investigative equipment to tell the public that she was not in the river.His equipment probably picked up her phone signal, which was on the bench and still active. So how can he say that she was was DEEFFINATLEY not in the river
I believe what Peter Faulding says. He could have walked away and gone underground, but he hasn't. He has sat and looked everyone in the eye and didn't avert his look at anytime. This falls squarely on Lancashire Police's shoulders.
Oh, do you?
What part?
Faulding has completely different tune every day...
@@frontenac5083 I believe that Peter Faulding had his wings clipped by Lancashire police for being honest and open. Also, this was a fast moving case, and of course things change, hence why his story changed.
@@frontenac5083 You really have this pathetic obsessive agenda to totally discredit Peter Faulding don't you? with you posting something sarcastic every time a person posts in defence of Peter Faulding or is critical of the Police investigation which was by the way totally botched in the first place.
Your one man crusade to post against everyone who you don't agree with will just consume you for all eternity as most people are in support of him, also some people still think Paul Ansell had something to do with Nicola's disappearance in the first place and the fact that the body was found in an area that had already been searched 3 times by the Police (which you conveniently forget in your rants against Peter Faulding) has people already speculating that the body had been dumped there quite recently rather than the body had been in the water for 3 weeks solid, especially as it's close to a road.
The autopsy report will reveal whether she really did die through accidental drowning or not, and if not then we would know something was never right in the first place.
@@shaukanto6406
"The autopsy report will reveal whether she really did die through accidental drowning or not, and if not then we would know something was never right in the first place."
...and if it does? What does it say about your hero Peter who categorically stated that she was not in the water and it should be a LAND search?
I honestly think he interfered with the investigation, I think that is criminal. He should never have claimed she was not in the river when she was found in the river. He may be playing word salad by saying she was in the reeds but the reeds grow in the river. Clout chaser in my eyes.
It was the family who begged him to help the search!
@@radicalcartoons2766 Because they believed she may be in that river until the diver said he doesn't believe she is in there. Paul started to question what he once thought. Giving false hope to him and his family. I think they asked him, I don't think anyone was begging. Bit of a sad way to put it.
It's like a portal opened up and took her and then eventually put her back, that river was searched and searched with the best sonar in the world and drones, police dogs, members of the public passing by everyday then all of a sudden she turns up in a place that had already been searched where a member of the public just happens to find her on a walk, all the people on social media going down there and filming themselves searching for her and no one saw her for weeks until one day she's just there for a member of the public to come across, if it turns out the autopsy says she was in the river all the time then the police have a lot to answer to because they dropped the ball on this one
So the police have said she was in the river the whole time, but if they were right they have a lot to answer for? Armchair detectives spouting nonsense to make themselves feel big. It is not a simple process to find a body in a river, the police knew that, all the experts except the self publicising Faulding knew that, they get stuck under branches and in reeds and they move with the water. It's not a swimming pool
Agree
What if someone put her IN the river after the river was searched?
Jins
surprised the police and an organised mass of volunteers [a big fail imo] didnt clear all the branches / dead reeds/ bracken from the river side -- with weed eaters/ brush cutters; a branch was partly over the river, and NB was under it
To me is seems suspicious.I don’t think she been in the water all that time
My heart goes out to the family xxx. I totally have faith in Peter and his expertise
Let’s not forget that this man offered his help about 3 days after the search started and he was refused and everyone including him found it strange. Now she apears after so much search? Well she better have water of that river in her lungs otherwise a killer is free. Things did not add up and still don’t
Surely Nicola's body will have evidence of how long it was in the water....I think an independent corner should be appointed by the family to do the autopsy not the police
I know the area well having walked along the river many many times. Anyone who believes that Nicola magically "fell in" to the river, ended up just a mile down river, at the point nearest to Rawcliffe Rd, is on another planet. None of this makes sense. IF, as the police are suggesting, Nicola was feeling down/depressed, and we all know how that feels, then we're expected to believe that she took her dog for a walk and made a zoom call before then, suddenly, deciding to end it all. Rubbish. Painful to have to make such a conclusion, but that's the fact. The Police are beyond incompetent, as innumerable investigations demonstrate. They're more interested in covering their own miserable behinds than getting at the truth. There are so many questions that must be asked. So so often, the truth is very much closer to home than we would like to admit. True, this has become a circus, but we live in a social media world and that's not going to change. But the reason it became a circus is that the scene around the bench was never secured, the official version makes zero sense, the public was allowed to trample up and down the river RIGHT PAST where the body was later placed (which is, I suggest, what happened), interviews were given that clearly did not add up, and a good deal more. The reason the Police were searching six miles down river is exactly because they didn't believe, for a second, that she would be around a mile away from the alleged last sighting. So many assumptions, so much incompetence and failure. Sadly, we cannot trust the authorities. Britain 2023.
A lot of truth in this
Not too sure about judging the police just yet. We don't know what they already suspect and are following up. They will give nothing away because of the risk to ongoing enquiries, especially if they suspect foul play. It's a question of watch this space.
Yes
I agree 👍
you living in the area makes you a water expert?its fine having doubts but your acting like your 100% sure on this
Some thing is very wrong with this case.
I still think Nicola did fall in the river at the spot near the bench...I think Nicola got up off the bench put her phone down to put Willows harness and lead back on, I think Willow could have jumped up in a playful way and Nicola lost her balance fell backwards and hit her head on the stones she was either knocked out or she could not get back out. And that's the reason Willows harness and lead was found near the edge and not on the bench. And that's also the reason Willow stay in that spot.
Her lead was not found
At the point where Nicola was found, Peter searched and found nothing. I believe him!
So it's impossible for bodies to move with the flow of the river?
Well, yeah.... that's one thing he said you can have confidence in.
@@xaiano794Of course 🤦♂️ an expert team of professional underwater searchers would never consider that a body could move with the flow of the water. Case solved, well done
Me too Diana! Any overhanging reeds/branches I feel he would have checked as this could have kept Nicola in one spot!
@@xaiano794 but just a mile in 3 weeks in a "fast flowing" river? Just 80 yards a day? 10 feet per hour? Sounds suspicious to me.
Because she must have been placed there afterwards, look on Google maps, you can see how accessible the location is from the quiet little road that runs alongside the river.
My fear is that the post mortem will show 'unexplained ' or 'misadventure' and before people jump on me, there is no reason for her to enter the river on her own and the river was thoroughly searched before poor Nicola was found.
Yes I am being an arm chair sleuth but nothing adds up here.
Trust Peter impeccably.
Oh Peter ? It's 9 months later and you're claiming you found her in the river ? You're doing that to distract from the independent report that came out yesterday and that exposes exactly how opportunistic your behaviour was at this time. Shameful.
'Our remit was not searching the riverbank or the reeds, just under the water' . That's pretty crap excuse because bodies float on the surface, especially after few weeks.. so visually checking the riverbank or the reeds should have been mandatory.
Yes but that is what the police should have done. Peter was only given specific orders from them to just do the water
Peter Faulding is intelligent, compassionate, professional, and a man of integrity. He has been exceptional in his work. He has been doing his best to help the family. The incompetent police have blundered enormously. They should have informed Peter Faulding of the information that they realeased to the public when he was taken on board for the investigation. He would have done things differently as he is the expert. Withholding pertinent information from him has been detrimental to the case. Thank you, Peter, for all that you have done and all that you continue to do to assist. We need more people like you.
Bloke deserves a smack in the mouth at least .
If Nicola wasn't in the river when they searched it then where has she been all that time? It will be interesting to see how long her body has actually been in the water, it should be pretty easy to tell if it's been there for three weeks or just a few days. There's a strong possibility there has been foul play here and it's far from a closed case unless police do a cover up which is also a possibility. It might be up to the family to come out and reveal the truth.
I Know how .
This is by far the best interview I’ve seen regarding this case. Full credit to the GB news presenter for asking questions that were precise and to the point.
I understand the family want their privacy, but THE WORK MUST CONTINUE !
100 %.
Justice MUST be done.
Nicola was not a drunken suicide !!!! NO WAY!
I totally agree the police rely in the public. They cannot pick and choose a freind within a couple of days when Nicola was missing started a Go Fund Me for a target for £100 000, who on earth thinks that's normal?😵
I’m sorry but I can see them already coming out and saying she killed herself which I find highly doubtful seeing as she bothered to join a work conference call just before doing it, no one that’s suicidal would ever do that
@Stitch Yep, agree 100%
Maybe that's what tipped her over the edge. I've left some meetings very unhappy sometimes.
As a suicide survivor I'm sure she would have left the dog at home. I don't think she'd want to stress her dog even more. Also someone else in comments has said she'd put her fitbit and she was on a current phone/teams meetings and didn't end the call. I know even though I just wanted to die immediately I couldn't have done it if I hadn't put my dogs into kennels. I had visions of them dying a very slow lonely death. Sorry to be morbid but I don't think suicide is likely. 💔
If someone is going to commit suicide no one will know they will act normal and that’s a fact I know
Yeah I think this too. Since they strategically let out her personal information days before… very fitting.
Why not wait on the coroner's findings rather than speculating or add to speculations .......
Because that is what Fraudling has done all along-even 2 weeks ago he was making unsubstantiated claims on TV that there was foul play at work. But i suppose by keeping quiet he doesn't get the publicity to promote his newly published book
Because people will comment on anything about her, and engagement means money. Same as it's been the whole way through.
However, the phone on the bench with unfinished teams call and the abandonment of Willow may have been a final goodbye message like goodbye I can't carry on!
Because the coroner will do what is expected...........
Because yet again the point where body was salvaged was not cordoned off and no forensic search was conducted. After the body was clumsily salvaged with a lack of equipment and lack of manpower, after the police and the body and all the police cars had left on Sunday, a member of the public found, on the site, by the submerged tree on the bank, a fragment of bluish cloth from a coat which looked like the coat NB had been wearing. And shown on youtube. If 2 months from now an autopsy discloses either marks inconsistent with drowning or declare the body not immersed for 3 weeks, then it will be too bloody late to do a forensic check on the site where the body was recovered. That had to be done on the day and was not done. That's the answer to yr Q "Why not wait on the coroner's findings..." Those findings have already been compromised by police mishandling - - and that's not bad p-r, that's bad operations.
No way have the police done the right thing!!!!!!!!!
I said to my partner yesterday that Nicola was placed there after the search, this case makes no sense. Police know more but not saying. Very strange. This is even worse for the family.
London
Sorry that your partner has to put up with your moronic shit :(
Yes I believe that's what happened
🙋🏻♀️I fully appreciate what Peter & his professional team did for the family over the difficult moments 🙏🏻
Peter I think is great actually. He was helping. Everyone should wait to hear the coroners report. But, simple solution here, go back on the sonar video's footage. Work your way back from that point in the river, ! Study the footage, surely this has already been done?
2:42 he asked the question everybody is thinking... it is a valid question and not speculation at this point.
If he is saying she definitely wasn't in there originally there is still along way to go with this tragedy
But now he claims he did find her🤔
Rest in peace Nicola this is so sad my heart goes out to friends and family
I think Peter suspects Nicola has been murdered...
Lots of respect for Peter.
Peter Faulding appears to be a Jeremy Dewitte type character....
respect for Peter?? hahaha. He is nothing but a wannabe big time Charlie pretending to be an expert, when he is really yet another fraud offering the world, but delivering sweet f all. He failed miserably whilst consistently making woeful assumptions.
Some people *_think_* they are Napoleon.
Peter Faulding and his crew missed her. Human error as well as bungled. Pathetic excuses to save his reputation. She accidentally drowned after falling; her clothes pulled her under.
There’s no way that this specialist team who searched the water would’ve missed the body in the reeds when they were at that point in the water where Nicolas body has been found..after all the two dog walkers spotted the body easily enough didn’t they..all very strange
Local migrants seem good for it, the reason why her body wasn't found is they hadn't dumped it yet.
They are always dragging woman and children off the streets and when they fight back or they fear punishment they do this.
Saddos on this channel just love a conspiracy theory, don’t they?
@@idiottwiceover6311she did? You sounds like a suspect
@Richard Fox No, based on the expert speaking in this clip, who SEARCHED THAT PORTION OF THE RIVER.
You haven't even watched it!
The sonar guy emphasised several times it wasn't his job to search in the reeds, he would have been watching the monitor observing the river bed as they went passed that spot. The view of reed beds from water level is much different than the view from higher up on the banking looking down
I don’t believe she was there either, I think foul play unfortunately, this whole case and the police response has been utterly bizarre and so many protocols missed. RIP beautiful lady ❤
just another tik tok detective
Saddos on this channel just love a conspiracy theory, don’t they?
and you think they dumped the body in the exact place the police were looking? you tiktok detectives really are deluded
Too many people watching David Paulides books
Why weren't the reeds searched. The dumbest search. Drove past the reeds but did not search why. Wouldn't a body get trapped in reeds failings are not being admitted.
OH SHITE!!!! He's going there!!!! Peter is suggesting the death is NOT suicide and the body was dumped after the searching was done. WOW!!!!
That's probably what happened
What the majority of the public are secretly thinking...🤫
Why would she take her dog who she loved with her ? Also as a swimmer , as she was , it is difficult to drown yourself
The body was found quiet near to the road .would a person take that chance yes a mentally disturbed person would . In plain sight as they have no self awareness . Just my opinion
If I were a betting man, she has been put there very recently. Sad and tragic news 😢
You are going to lose. Autopsy will show 3 weeks in the water. It still confuses me how people don't understand rivers. Bodies can take weeks to be found, it is literally in the news all the time!
based on your expert knowledge of rivers and water flow.
It's not Peters fault
How on earth did they not thoroughly search the reeds and riverbed whilst searching the river! I dont get it.
Facts, these sheep believe anything. Do t know what it is but there's something not right with any of this. Maybe sometibg will come out.
@@Shaungreener1 mate, you're the sheep. Don't you find it ironic how everyone that thinks like you uses the exact same terminology? "You're a sheep" they all bleated.
the only way you would get in reed beds is if the water is higher , they are like a wall,
I think for myself and don't really believe what the media tells me but you people call us conspiracy theorist.. once you realise the bias in the media
Not being funny, but if I were the husband, I would have searched the river banks personally myself, all the way to the sea.
Lancashire Police need to specify:
1. How many days Nicola's body was in the water.
2. if there was evidence of violence on Nicola's body
3. If Nicola's body was weighed down or tethered at the point of discovery.
The 10 Jan 23 call to the police may have been staged anticipating an ("assisted") disappearance on 27 Jan 23. This sounds horrible, but so is the gruesome demise of Nicola in the river.
We need this information to nail any third party if they are involved, and to be fair to Nicola's loved ones. Nicola had children. So the suicide theory is very unlikely.
The Diving Expert should not answer any more questions.
I agree. Sonar cannot see into reeds. BUT even to me it is obvious a reed bed or tree with branches in the water is the perfect snag point. Are they also saying Divers DID NOT search in the reed beds?? YES or NO ? SOMEONE SHOULD ASK THIS QUESTION OF THE POLICE !!
He’s an expert at passing the buck. She was under the water, that was his remit. The fact she was in the reeds is irrelevant. What the land team were meant to go in the river to check the reeds. Absolute nonsense
How can divers search in reed beds clever clogs? The key word is “divers”. You can’t dive under a reed bed can you it’s essentially land. So to answer your stupid question NO divers did not dive into the reed bed to search for her that is a job for police teams.
@@mikeymike621 Mikeymike621. I was having a rubbish day until I read that...cheered me right up😁😅 Here is a picture for you to do some colouring in Mikey. 🐻❄ enjoy.
I’ve been following this case since the beginning. I’ve also recently found AD and his channels. I’m of the opinion Question everything even if I turn out to be wrong. But I’m careful what I share publicly as there is people out there who are looking to attack you online and use what you say against you. I’ve been watching Peter Faulding since he offered his expertise. At first I was hopeful he would find her after all he has the equipment and the expertise in this field. Then when he didn’t find her after saying he would if she was indeed in the river, I was a thinking hmmmm is he doing this for the publicity and talk is cheap. But now reading the backlash he is getting public and after listening to an interview he did after she was found, I’m more of the opinion something isn’t right. He has recordings from his time searching on the river, now he is off the case and under review. Am I reading into this too much? Or is there a cover up going on?
“She was not in that part of the river the day we searched. Yes, where she was found, we drove past with a sonar and it was crystal clear, nothing, no sign.”
“The top part above the Wyre is non tidal it flows one way, once you get over the Wyre it’s a tidal river, every 6 hours there is a turn of the tide…so anything lodged can go out and back in, what I find very strange is she hasn’t gone very far, I would have expected her to go further in 3 weeks.” Peter Faulding
I said this all along , she was never in there whoever killed her used the river as a scapegoat because the police constantly said she drowned in the river
It does indeed seem very odd and will be interesting to see how long she was actually in the river.
No "thank you" from anyone for the two members of the public who found her, one of whom is a practicing psychic on Facebook. If it wasn't for them, who knows how long the family would have had to wait. Seems to me that the criticism of public involvement is unwarranted.
Perhaps the police and Nicola's family have thanked him. Not everything has to be done publicly. That's been half the trouble with this case.
Well, we won't know how long Nicola was in the water until the autopsy report is made public. That in itself could tell investigators a lot about the circumstances involved in her death.
If Mr. Faulding didn't find her body in that area where her body was found,that means her body wasn't there. I think that her body was put into that area by her murderer as the police were so adamant that she went into the river. It is the perfect way for the murderer to hide the fact they killed her. I hope that an autopsy is performed to determine her actual death.
She was in the reeds and Peter had already said many times now the sonar does not work on reeds so no they wouldnt have found her there anyway. Waders were supposed to be checking those areas so either the Police didn't check properly or she was put there at a different point
Nah, they’ll probably just not bother with an autopsy ….🙄
@@woowah32 Even if the autopsy confirms it wasn't a murder, some of the numpties on here will claim the results are wrong. They are so desperate for the police to be wrong. It's really bizarre.
@MsSmartmonkee
Why would anyone go to the trouble of placing a body into water where there was most likely a strong police presence when they could have put a body anywhere else where there would be a no police presence?
@@chriswilkinson7636 Absolutely, they will just see it as a good excuse to make a conspiracy theory.
There is something not right about this case .... I dont think this was an accident I think she was murdered ...
I agree. Careful though, you will get a lot of backlash from gaslighters and flying monkeys for saying that 👍
She was gang-raped by a group of six Arabian men.
Exactly❗️ and there are some dodgy Freemasons / Satanists ring in the police and that town who are covering it up❗️😱
Judging by the Coverage id have to agree something is off
Peter gives up his time for nothing and gets treated like this?? Well done Peter 👏 for your help in this enquiry