Can a Movie Change the Law?

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  • Опубліковано 23 бер 2024
  • The 1961 film VICTIM isn't just a tense thriller. It was crafted to serve as a stealthy challenge to a British law that criminalized the very existence of homosexuals. It was a law that many had tried - and failed - to overturn. But at the dawn of the swinging sixties, a new challenge emerged. VICTIM brought together an unlikely team of writers, producers, and a matinee idol named Dirk Bogarde with a secret private life. Together, they’d use this movie to take on some of the most powerful figures in the British empire … and confront a moral panic that had gripped England since the reign of Henry the 8th.
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  • @zosko1
    @zosko1 Місяць тому +1297

    Arthur Gore (Lord Arran) who successfully introduces the decriminalisation bill into the house of lords also unsuccessfully fought to end badger culling in the UK. When asked why his effort for homosexual decriminalisation was successful but his effort to stop killing badgers failed, he replied: "There are not many badgers in the House of Lords"

    • @NemesisOgreKing
      @NemesisOgreKing Місяць тому

      @.@

    • @reelqueerreact
      @reelqueerreact Місяць тому +72

      a BANGER

    • @neilgodwin6531
      @neilgodwin6531 Місяць тому +97

      The days when politicians and peers could not only form coherent sentences but had a sense of humour

    • @yorgivon-schmourgeussborgi
      @yorgivon-schmourgeussborgi Місяць тому +57

      This is funny, because my gay they bff calls the gay male version of a cougar, badgers. Lol

    • @zosko1
      @zosko1 Місяць тому +16

      @@yorgivon-schmourgeussborgi haha that's a pretty cool coincidence!

  • @justicefool3942
    @justicefool3942 Місяць тому +739

    6:27
    "Homosexuality was ruining British Theater"
    I literally had to stop the video because I was laughing so hard at such an absurd statement.

    • @MrBarneyDinosaur
      @MrBarneyDinosaur Місяць тому +177

      All of this water is ruining my local swimming pool.

    • @SarastistheSerpent
      @SarastistheSerpent Місяць тому +124

      Saying homosexuality was ruining theatre is like saying Italians were ruining pizza, or the Japanese were ruining Sushi

    • @ThreadBomb
      @ThreadBomb Місяць тому +81

      ​@@SarastistheSerpent Also reminiscent of Nazis complaining about Jews in classical music, when many of best musicians and composers were Jewish.

    • @frankpeter6851
      @frankpeter6851 Місяць тому +6

      I guess they meant that if you remove the lurid pathology aspect from homosexuality, in effect, you ruin the magic trick.

    • @littlemiss_76
      @littlemiss_76 Місяць тому +21

      I found that was hilarious too. Clearly, they forgot about Shakespeare's time. :D

  • @wereoctopus
    @wereoctopus Місяць тому +369

    One interesting aspect of Victim you didn't quite touch on is its effective demonstration of intersectionality between class and sexuality. The well-to-do gay characters have the means to pay off the blackmailers, but Barrett (the young working-class man pursued by police at the beginning) has to resort to theft.

    • @tarryfingert
      @tarryfingert Місяць тому +46

      Also; the law wasn't seriouesly considered by politicians until it impacted people they knew (that's flattening the issue significantly) but in that era of British history, politicians were pretty much entirely from the upper classes. The House of Lords certainly was, and to some extent still is.

    • @MattBaume
      @MattBaume  Місяць тому +130

      That's true, there's a class dimension to this film that I think many Americans would miss. It reflects what happened with Montague -- many people looked down on him more for hooking up with a "lower class" person than for being bisexual!

    • @wereoctopus
      @wereoctopus Місяць тому +27

      @@MattBaume you might be right -- I haven't seen Victim yet. My partner told me about it a few years ago, commenting on the class aspect.
      Also, the mystery of the opening chase sequence, who the 'victim' is and of what crime, was heightened by the film's marketing. In Jenni Olson's _The Queer Movie Poster Book_ (Chronicle Books 2004), she writes:
      "This lavender-hued campaign offers a brilliant pitch as it appeals to the prurient interests of the general public and manages to insinuate its subject matter… without ever actually saying what the film is about. (A booming voiceover in the film's preview trailer gives us a hint, asking provocatively, "What crime linked an aging hairdresser and a famous star of the theatre?") Note the imprint of Bogarde's grimacing face and the torn effect on the title-both conveying the tortured psychology of the homosexual."
      The poster reads "A scorching drama of the most *un*-talked-about subject of our time!" (emphasis not added).

  • @YodaMan.
    @YodaMan. Місяць тому +354

    "protect the children" mmhmm... hearing that a lot these days too.

    • @queenannsrevenge100
      @queenannsrevenge100 Місяць тому +28

      We the general public have memories like goldfish. The good news is that we could just recycle pretty much every progressive film of the past 60 years and possibly have the same effect 👍

    • @safiremorningstar
      @safiremorningstar Місяць тому +23

      Yes look at Harry Potter that last book said it all, in the irony is that when she said the Dumbledore was gay all gay people that I knew was like yeah she's saying that there is a gay character in her book wow et cetera et cetera and I said no she's a homophobe and you can tell by the way she's written it. Maybe it's because I am autistic and I pay attention to details very my new details and I didn't like the comments that Snape makes to Dumbledore at all it bothered me to the point where I realized what nobody else was realizing, and when I came in out and said that look she's not pro-gay she's anti-gay and you can tell by this line don't think she's suddenly saying she's pro-gay she's not she's very much not she's a homophobe and nobody would listen to me until about 2 years later when she made a comment and about it the whole thing and came out as being anti gay and one of those very gay people came out to me and said you were right I don't know how we didn't see it and I said I noticed things because at a very young age my father made me realize what prejudice is and how you can tell by what people say and what they don't say. And then that person asked me if I was gay, and I said no I'm not but doesn't mean I'm blind either. I know it's going to say that I edited this but I didn't I can't I use voice to text because my hands do not work so not having been said I wanted to add this little blurb and that is at the time when I was asked I said no I was not because of the fact that I didn't have a term for what I was I would have to wait something like 10 years to find out there was a word for what I was and that word was asexual, up until that time there were at least three boxes you could tick in the 1980s they were just coming out with the third box making it more publicly known that there was such a thing as bisexual but they were still no term for people like me so you have to pick what about you felt most appropriate with. Even if none of the current boxes really fit you. It's what I really liked that animation the point., and why I recommended it.

    • @dwa22204
      @dwa22204 Місяць тому

      If you’re not a grooming pervert, you don’t have anything to worry about.

    • @meganegan5992
      @meganegan5992 Місяць тому +24

      @@safiremorningstar She never put it in the books explicitly, and again it was only implied when she had a whole movie to spend on that relationship. It was meant for brownie points, not for any genuine exploration of his character.
      My bet is that 3, 4 years down the road, she'll retcon it again, and he always had a lovely wife and kids juuuuust off-screen.

    • @richardlee2642
      @richardlee2642 Місяць тому +15

      Reminiscent of Anita Bryant…

  • @OuterGalaxyLounge
    @OuterGalaxyLounge Місяць тому +234

    Dirk Bogarde's greatness as an actor is too often ignored. This is a great film and incredibly brave for everyone involved.

    • @AndImsomelady-fq6cw
      @AndImsomelady-fq6cw Місяць тому +15

      He is so underrated, at least here in the u.s.

    • @flashrobbie
      @flashrobbie Місяць тому +16

      2 Baftas from 5 nominations and an Outstanding Contribution award, Knighthoods in England and France, 2 Honorary Doctorates, London Film Critics Lifetime Award, British Film Institute Fellowship, first English person to be President of the jury of the Cannes Film Festival.

    • @AndImsomelady-fq6cw
      @AndImsomelady-fq6cw Місяць тому +5

      @@flashrobbie that’s good to hear. I had the criterion streaming service and they had a whole collection of his movies. All of them were great.

    • @gloriamontgomery6900
      @gloriamontgomery6900 Місяць тому +6

      His subtlety was amazing. He could convey so much with just his expressions

    • @raymondwolken7975
      @raymondwolken7975 20 днів тому

      This was my favorite film although he’s had many great films. He had a wonderful life amid beautiful people, ❤😊

  • @FreyasArts
    @FreyasArts Місяць тому +106

    When I outed myself to my grandma, she surprised me by telling how she remembers sitting in on her sister and her sister's fellow law students passionately discussing the best arguments for legalisation of gay people in the 60s in Germany.
    This especially surprised me since my mom had reacted very negatively to my outing, but my gran got really angry at my mom instead and said she'd protect me against her daughter and should the worst case scenario happen and my mom actually follow through with her threat of throwing me out, I'd always have a place at my grandma's house ❤️

    • @liamwinchesterchasten2229
      @liamwinchesterchasten2229 25 днів тому +8

      I'm glad you have your Grandma in your life.

    • @brettbarney4927
      @brettbarney4927 7 днів тому +3

      It's not often that I get verklempt reading UA-cam comments. Thank you for that personal reminder that minds can be changed and that good-hearted allies are scattered among us everywhere.

    • @RevShifty
      @RevShifty 3 дні тому +1

      She sounds like a wonderful woman and an amazing grandmother. I'm glad you had her at a time like that.

  • @tyrant-den884
    @tyrant-den884 Місяць тому +310

    in the book Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde, it is widely accepted by academics that when Henry's friends bring up his new friend Hyde, whom he is mysteriously giving a lot of money, and ask if he's in any trouble: they are asking if Hyde is lover who is blackmailing him.

    • @jacquelinecallejas1390
      @jacquelinecallejas1390 Місяць тому +7

      Something I found interesting because it was the 70s and IIRC made for tv, not movie theatres ,is that in the Jack Palance version of Dr Jekyll and Hyde, Hyde frequents both male and female prostitutes .

    • @legendswarble2845
      @legendswarble2845 Місяць тому +8

      I remember reading that story and wondering if I was meant to think Hyde was his lover. I thought, for the time, I was perhaps supposed to read it as a secret son, but it just looked like everyone around thought Jekyll was gay or was reacting in shock to discovering it.

  • @markastoforoff7838
    @markastoforoff7838 Місяць тому +111

    Mentioned was Alan Turing, I had never heard of him until the past few years or if I did in school it wasn't mentioned that he was gay nor what happened to him in the aftermath. It's horrible that a man who was so crucial in breaking the Enigma Code and saving countless lives and helping to shorten WW2 was treated in such a fashion for the mere crime of being born not straight.

    • @mikeb6389
      @mikeb6389 Місяць тому +11

      Yes, it took a long time for Alan Turing to be posthumously pardoned by Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth in 2013.

    • @roodbennett
      @roodbennett Місяць тому +7

      2013 Geezuz Kriste! How kind of Her Majesty! SERIOUS sarcasm. She could have done so SO MANY YEARS EARLIER!

    • @sarahgoldberg6614
      @sarahgoldberg6614 Місяць тому +1

      And now the post Brexit student exchange scheme is named after him.

    • @RadikAlice
      @RadikAlice Місяць тому +7

      A sad but poignant example of why the system will always chew you and spit you out,
      no matter how high on the ladder you are. They'll use whatever excuse is most acceptable

    • @omp199
      @omp199 Місяць тому +2

      Not true. Alan Turing was not convicted of the crime of "being born not straight". Being born not straight has never been a crime in the UK (or anywhere else to my knowledge). He was convicted of the crime of "gross indecency". Of course, "gross indecency" should never have been a crime in the first place, but you should really be honest and tell people what he was actually convicted of.

  • @gnocchidokie
    @gnocchidokie Місяць тому +182

    Every video of yours ends with me crying in thanks to our badass gay ancestors. I wouldn't have had the courage to star in a gay movie in 2005, let alone 1960. I feel like I owe them a great deal of gratitude, and your videos allow me to do that vicariously through your research and honoring of their work. Thank you.

    • @marienbad2
      @marienbad2 Місяць тому +11

      Thank god I am not the only one who cries at Matt's videos! They are such emotional rollercoasters, but in the end I cry and am happy as well in a way.

    • @hotdog1214
      @hotdog1214 Місяць тому +11

      I know how you feel. Matt's videos really delve into gay history in a way that no google or Wikipedia search does, really brings it to life and yes it is very touching to hear about our predecessors and how they paved the way for not only themselves but all of us who followed. I'm with you, in thinking that I wouldn't have the bottle to do as they did, they are indeed worthy of our applause, respect, thanks and some tears; its very humbling.

    • @Fuchswinter
      @Fuchswinter Місяць тому +4

      I just came to say this - the world is a scary place even now, but I cannot imagine the joy and rage and relief when those laws were overturned due to these incredible, brave people. We owe them to keep fighting.

  • @Polyphemus47
    @Polyphemus47 Місяць тому +100

    "Public opinion in the 1950s was strongly opposed to homosexuals." I know that only too well. I was born in 1947, and began having 'crushes' on boys in my classes in about 3rd grade. Being raised in a Fundamentalist "Christian" environment, I never heard anything but disdain if the subject ever arose among the adults. I didn't screw up the courage to 'come out' until my mid-20s, having escaped the church and my family and living on my own. I've never heard of this film before, so it's quite a revelation. Since you were able to include excerpts, I'm hoping it's available somewhere online.

    • @MattBaume
      @MattBaume  Місяць тому +39

      Yup it's streaming in the US on whatever HBO is called now, and also there's a beautiful Criterion Collection release (a lot of libraries have that version so it's pretty easy to find for free!)

    • @lastyeehaw715
      @lastyeehaw715 Місяць тому +16

      It's also here on UA-cam

    • @susanmorano405
      @susanmorano405 Місяць тому

      I was just gonna say, available here​@@lastyeehaw715

    • @tytn9978
      @tytn9978 Місяць тому +17

      Interesting! I don't think I even heard about "homosexuality" until I was in university in the 1970's, and even then, it was presented as something negative. I do wonder how different MY life might have been had I understood at the time who I was, and had I had the courage to BE who I was. I can't say now that I regret my life, because I have enjoyed being a parent, but I regret not understanding and then not accepting the "inner-me" and I do still wonder what possibilities I have missed out on.

    • @missnaomi613
      @missnaomi613 Місяць тому +7

      @@tytn9978 It's never too late. 🙏❤🏳‍🌈

  • @johnnimbus8761
    @johnnimbus8761 Місяць тому +173

    Great essay of Victim and the UK laws and the impact on DB's career. A decade later John Hurt made The Naked Civil Servant but his career continued across his life. A sign that change indeed happened.

    • @DenkyManner
      @DenkyManner Місяць тому +16

      He said in interviews he was warned not to do it because of the impact it would have on his career. Thankfully he didn't listen, and that it wasn't at all true

    • @geofftayloruk
      @geofftayloruk Місяць тому +10

      Difference being that John Hurt wasn’t Gay irl….

    • @ThreadBomb
      @ThreadBomb Місяць тому +15

      @@geofftayloruk OTOH I'd say Naked Civil Servant is a much "queerer" film than Victim. The central character is flamboyantly out, attracted to men, involved in the gay scene and having sex. Extraordinary in a made-for-TV 1975 movie. I hope Matt makes a video on it.

    • @frankpeter6851
      @frankpeter6851 Місяць тому +1

      ​@@ThreadBombit is a very good adaptation

    • @neilgodwin6531
      @neilgodwin6531 Місяць тому +2

      Dirk played a similar character in the adaptation of Mann's Death in Venice

  • @BrettWhitmarsh
    @BrettWhitmarsh Місяць тому +102

    Matt, the online library Queer liberation Library just recently featured your book. They’re a fantastic free library for anyone in the US.

  • @TheWildwest666
    @TheWildwest666 Місяць тому +133

    I'm so hyped for this, baby. Victim is a movie that's stuck with me for a long time and to see someone of Matt's stature cover it is exactly what it deserves.

  • @matthewrobinson2172
    @matthewrobinson2172 Місяць тому +49

    My favourite exchange in the film comes between two policemen discussing the law. The younger of the two expresses support for keeping homosexuality banned, whilst the senior of the two expresses how the law creates blackmail victims.
    “I can see you’re a true puritan”
    “There’s nothing wrong with that sir”
    “Of course not. There was a time when that was against the law you know.”

  • @colinneagle4495
    @colinneagle4495 Місяць тому +119

    It's beyond me why anyone would turn to Henry the Eighth of all people for moral leadership in determining appropriate romantic relationships, but what do I know

    • @neilgodwin6531
      @neilgodwin6531 Місяць тому +9

      In those days the King WAS the law. No one 'turned to him'

    • @colinneagle4495
      @colinneagle4495 Місяць тому +19

      @@neilgodwin6531 Does someone need to explain to you what jokes are?

    • @sodadrinker89
      @sodadrinker89 Місяць тому +13

      It's also funny the church he founded didn't allow divorce for a very long time.

    • @CareelBay
      @CareelBay Місяць тому

      @@colinneagle4495🤭🤭🤭

    • @QPRTokyo
      @QPRTokyo Місяць тому +1

      @@sodadrinker89 Remember Henry VIII was Anglo Catholic. He was just following the Roman Catholics.

  • @SylviaRustyFae
    @SylviaRustyFae Місяць тому +150

    I love how so many stories about gay activism start with a woman from an older generation wantin to make a real change to society for the better
    Its a constant reminder of the fact that things arent so black and white as the generational divide usually makes folks see such things as old ppl and their views; or even the nonqueers and their views... A reminder that no matter who one is that they can make a great change for the better for the rights of others; and also a reminder as to why women are put first in the LGBTQ+ acronym, given all they, esp lesbians durin the aids crisis, did for the betterment of our slice of society
    Its also a reminder of why intersectional fights for rights are always the best way forward; bcuz we have allies we dont know about in communities we're not in, and siblings as well, no matter what hateful biases may exist that wud stop one seein their own among anothers kind

    • @CanelaAguila
      @CanelaAguila Місяць тому +17

      It's somehow easier to stand up for groups that you're not in, because the fight isn't so personal. Before I left Twitter I was happy to see a lot of (mostly straight) men pick up the defense of women in tech, which I am one of. For me as a lesbian woman it is easier to pick up the trans defense. It is very hard to defend your own right to, quite literally in some cases, exist.

    • @mikeb6389
      @mikeb6389 Місяць тому +6

      @@CanelaAguila Yes, it took a long time for Alan Turing to be posthumously pardoned by Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth in 2013.

    • @mikeb6389
      @mikeb6389 Місяць тому +2

      Oops, sorry wrong thread. YT won’t let iOS Safari edit or delete my comment.

    • @HighHolyOne
      @HighHolyOne Місяць тому +1

      ​@@mikeb6389 Quite apropos!

    • @WinstonSmithGPT
      @WinstonSmithGPT Місяць тому

      What the fuck are you on about? You know zero about actual history. Zero.

  • @slc2466
    @slc2466 Місяць тому +70

    Dirk, who had risen to #1 among British Box Office stars, really was a rock star for daring to do "Victim" (ditto Sylvia Syms for jumping onboard early).

  • @stregalilith
    @stregalilith Місяць тому +135

    It wasn’t until the 1980s when so many gay men in the film industry had died that many people first became aware of the fact that so many of their beloved films were created-written, directed, choreographed, acted, edited-by gay men and that the locations and scenes where they were played out and brought to life by gay production designers and crafts people. Without gay people and gay culture it would be a gray colorless humorless and heartless world❤️🥀😢👏

    • @AndImsomelady-fq6cw
      @AndImsomelady-fq6cw Місяць тому +24

      It would be a hot mess of uninspired John Wayne movies.

    • @euansmith3699
      @euansmith3699 Місяць тому +11

      @@AndImsomelady-fq6cwJust a bunch of chaps in chaps? 🤔

    • @dickpiper5339
      @dickpiper5339 Місяць тому

      ​@AndImsomelady-fq6cw John Wayne was a coward who refused to fight in WWII claiming he had a family to support. A family he actually abandoned while having an affair with a woman from Mexico. He also lied to gat out of a second military call

    • @hank0365
      @hank0365 Місяць тому +2

      "Gay culture" is a sharp knife that slices apart a mixed fruit pie.

  • @MJBiddy1
    @MJBiddy1 Місяць тому +66

    Was lucky enough to see Victim on the big screen at the BFI one pride season. My then gf and I gained a catchphrase from it and recommended our friends to watch.

  • @benjaminxue4017
    @benjaminxue4017 Місяць тому +52

    thank you for bringing this gem into modern light. As a country which recently just decriminalised homosexuality (Singapore, in 2023), this hits so many levels. A lot of the same moves and themes were still being felt by the local LGBTQ community as recently in the early 2020s. Thank you Matt.

    • @acecat2798
      @acecat2798 6 днів тому +1

      Congratulations-- I'm sure it's been a hard road. Decriminalization is an incredibly important and difficult step, and I'm so glad for LGBTQ Singaporeans that you made it. I hope that more rights become protected under law, and that public opinion changes as well. Keep up the good fight, and show each other love. It's a long road to liberation.

  • @cassylow9418
    @cassylow9418 Місяць тому +50

    I analysed this film for a module at university.... absolute classic and the story was phenomenal....you can imagine that happening in real life....people's lives destroyed because they were trying to hide who they were 😢

  • @KnightsAndDarths
    @KnightsAndDarths Місяць тому +60

    "I WANTED him!" Ooh Daddy that's passion 🔥

  • @euansmith3699
    @euansmith3699 Місяць тому +51

    Dirk Bogarde *AND* Dennis Price; truly a film blessed by the casting gods.
    Thanks for another great video, Matt; you are a real treasure.

    • @neilgodwin6531
      @neilgodwin6531 Місяць тому +5

      And Sims, Attenborough, and a host of great (and already well known) character actors like Norman Bird.
      Incidentally, Hermione Baddeley was the sister of Angela, loved by millions as Mrs. Bridges, the cook in Upstairs Downstairs for so many years

    • @lizzieallen2284
      @lizzieallen2284 Місяць тому

      Syms @@neilgodwin6531

  • @lyylski
    @lyylski Місяць тому +45

    It's actually interesting it's taken this long to talk about Bogarde. I would actually enjoy a full length video of his career since despite being a bit of a lower profile later on, he still had some great performances like the one in The Night Porter and the villain in Modesty Blaise.

    • @wookong1723
      @wookong1723 Місяць тому +7

      !! The Servant as well! It even got him a BAFTA nomination so I don't think Victim hurt his career that much in the end haha. Not to mention he served as Jury President at Cannes as well.

    • @robertwilloughby8050
      @robertwilloughby8050 Місяць тому +2

      Accident was very good (if a bit arch) as well, in fact it's a bit of a favourite of mine. Bogarde is excellent in that picture.

    • @neilgodwin6531
      @neilgodwin6531 Місяць тому +2

      Death in Venice is a good adaptation of the novel, I studied it for A level German and our teachers took us to the cinema to watch it.
      Bogarde is stunning as the aging vonAschenbach

    • @fruzsimih7214
      @fruzsimih7214 14 днів тому +1

      Bogarde played his best roles after Victim.

    • @acecat2798
      @acecat2798 6 днів тому +1

      I just saw Modesty Blaise for the first time! Now that's an LGBT movie. (A mixed bag, but one that feels like it's for LGBT people first and foremost). Bogarde-as-Gabriel is my favorite.

  • @y_fam_goeglyd
    @y_fam_goeglyd Місяць тому +41

    Dirk Bogarde has long been one of my heroes.
    (I'm a straight female, but have been an ally for 40 or so years, since I was a late teen. Turns out two of my 4 kids are part of the LGBTQIA+ community, as are any number of all my kids' friends.) He was an outstanding actor, but his whole life was fascinating and in many cases, heroic. And let's be honest, to an innocent teen who had no clue about homosexuality, he was simply _gorgeous._ 😂
    This is an excellent film - and an excellent story told by you, Matt, so thank you. You mentioned Polari a few times, and as an amateur linguist, it's a subject which has long fascinated me.
    Back in the 1950-60s (a bit before my time! Thank the gods for repeats in a sort of "golden oldies" dedicated channel), there were two BBC radio shows; Beyond Our Ken, and Round the Horne. Kenneth Horne being the titular host. In them they had two regular characters, played by Kenneth Williams & Hugh Paddick (whose openly gay relative, Brian Paddick, became Deputy Assistant Commissioner of the Metropolitan Police); Rodney & Charles, and later Julian & Sandy (Rodney & Sandy were Williams' characters), a pair of extremely funny men in both shows.
    It wasn't so obvious in the R&C sketches, but frankly Julian & Sandy were outrageously camp and used Polari. On the BBC, when being gay was still illegal! Talk about balls... AFAIK the writers were straight but very sympathetic. Being a comedy show they naturally had many jokes aimed at them, but they had equal opportunity to turn the tables. The writers got pilloried by the cast most weeks 😅.
    What is really funny - when you know what is _actually_ being said - is that the audience found the strange way of them speaking to be hilarious. While those who know Polari realise that the actual jokes were going straight over the audience's heads!
    I won't go on, but if you want a subject (for which you'll probably need an older gay Brit to explain the cultural references - not pop culture, but national) to sink your teeth into, I can't recommend these shows enough. (RTH came on basically like the next season of BOK, with some similar but different characters such as the aforementioned.) Though you might want to centre it around Kenneth Horne, despite him being straight. He was _very_ protective of the whole cast, and Kenneth Williams in particular, saw him as a father figure when he (though certainly out to some if not all the regular cast) was deeply in the closet. His story is utterly heartbreaking at times.
    So much for me not going on. Thanks again and at least read the Wikipedia articles. I've got Williams' authorized biography, Born Brilliant, and it's a hell of a read at times.

    • @AndyG13GLA
      @AndyG13GLA Місяць тому +4

      It would be brilliant if Matt researched “Round The Horne” & “Beyond Our Ken”. I’ve got many of them recorded on old reel to reel, some on cassette tape & even CD. Some of the “Julian & Sandy” sketches are even available on Spotify where the actors camp it up & use Polari. It might be a struggle for Matt, Americans & even younger Brits or English speakers to get to grips with Polari & why it was so important a part of communication between gays when being gay was illegal.
      Whilst I’m of an age where the age of consent was 21, older gay people passed on this cultural history to us younger gays. It was decades before the law decriminalised being gay & finally allowed gay marriage. Until then many gay people didn’t have the equivalent rights of heterosexual couples in many areas from property rights, pension rights, medical rights for information relating to their partners, & many other areas.
      Hopefully Matt will look into the cultural importance of RTH, BOK & Julian & Sandy. It could make an interesting show.

    • @stephenpalmer9375
      @stephenpalmer9375 Місяць тому +3

      @@AndyG13GLA I 100% agree. There was always a tacit secret understanding between the British public and gay stars - Kenneth Williams, Charles Hawtrey, Freddie Mercury, Frankie Howerd, Paul O'Grady, Eddie Izzard, Stephen Fry, Graham Chapman (of Monty Python), Julian Clary - to name a few - all seem to have been accepted, or actually taken to the very heart of the nation... despite the prevailing nature of 'public opinion'

    • @marienbad2
      @marienbad2 Місяць тому +1

      @@AndyG13GLAYou can get a torrent of all the Julian and Sandy sketches if you know where to look.

    • @marienbad2
      @marienbad2 Місяць тому +4

      "Oh hello, I'm Julian and this is my friend Sandy"
      I think the audience knew. They were out of work "actors" who set up random businesses always called Bona something. The audience knew they were really a gay couple, it was pretty blatant for the time. There was an interview with the guy who was head of bbc radio comedy at the time and he was asked about it. They said did he know they were gay and was it right for them to "promote" it. He said it was funny, and his job was to put on funny stuff, so he left it on as he found it funny.
      I agree when you say "talk about balls." Seriously that is some big pair to do something like this. WIlliams was a master of Polari as well, he was fluent!

  • @ethanhorn6093
    @ethanhorn6093 Місяць тому +42

    Ah yes, another Matt Baume video to make myself cry over... wonderful. In this installment you got me with in the first five minutes...

    • @marienbad2
      @marienbad2 Місяць тому +4

      He suckers us in and then, bam! your crying your damn eyes out! He is such a great presenter and his videos hit hard. He has such a great way of discussing and describing things that you can't stop watching even as the tears run down your face!

    • @gerardmackay8909
      @gerardmackay8909 Місяць тому +2

      I thought it was just me. I could weep for those persecuted men from Alan Turing all the way back to Oscar Wilde. Matt is a quite brilliant presenter.

  • @nononame113
    @nononame113 Місяць тому +13

    Victim is a superb film. I think sometimes it's underappreciated because it gets seen as a 'film about an issue'. It's brilliantly written and acted, and Bogarde is outstanding in his portrayal of a man living a double life. It should make any list of 100 best films.

  • @elvisneedsboats3714
    @elvisneedsboats3714 Місяць тому +71

    “What’s it matter to you?” There’s not much more to say, is there.

    • @marysue7165
      @marysue7165 Місяць тому +4

      I've been saying the same words over our current craziness on the topic of abortion. I can't understand their desire to control everyone's genitals

    • @omp199
      @omp199 Місяць тому

      @@marysue7165 Then you are simply being dishonest. Why is that? Are you so certain that your position is wrong that you feel the need to lie in order to defend it?

  • @wookong1723
    @wookong1723 Місяць тому +28

    Terence Davies too was deeply impacted by this film and wrote about Dirk Bogarde's performance in the film as being a turning point for British Cinema as a whole and I couldn't agree more. Speaking of, would love to see something from you on the extensive filmography of Davies! What a wonderful director, what a massive loss for the world.

  • @Serai3
    @Serai3 Місяць тому +63

    Hey, Midnight Express brought two countries to the diplomatic table. No reason this film couldn't change the law. Art can do a lot!

    • @mrkiplingreallywasanexceed8311
      @mrkiplingreallywasanexceed8311 Місяць тому +2

      For a really long time, my favourite film! Going round the mill grind with the Englishman "Oxford was my alma mater", the Swedish guy offering to soap him up in the shower and the blind fury with Rifki who sneaked on him for having contraband cos he was jealous! The denouement with the commandant who had got his belt out to deliver a thrashing and ended up impaled on the coat hook..... The years of corrupt, dragging Turkish justice and that filthy prison and its inmates was a TRULY gripping ride from the tense opening scenes at the airport, the shyster lawyer with his beads and fly swatter, the sclerotic judge bemoaning his "hands are tied by Ankara" - and who can forget John Hurt as the heroin addicted long term resident - right through to him walking out in the prison guard uniform. Christ it still gives me chills, truly dramatic, dark, sexually charged, could have happened to anyone type thing..... Saw it over and over!🙂🔥❤

    • @otsoko66
      @otsoko66 27 днів тому

      @@mrkiplingreallywasanexceed8311 Although in real life (it was 'based on a true story'), he DID have an affair with the Swedish guy, and did not kill the commandant. It was a classic example of straight-washing a story.

  • @Rockpirate101
    @Rockpirate101 Місяць тому +51

    My goodness this is important work. You’re giving us back our voice after years of queer silencing and being swept under the rug. Thank you ❤

  • @MaryMoodymegumimom
    @MaryMoodymegumimom Місяць тому +21

    Well done, Matt. I'm really happy that you covered Victim. It was one of the movies that helped my dad understand me.

  • @dudleydiehl6850
    @dudleydiehl6850 Місяць тому +18

    Wow, I had never heard about this movie, and your broadcast tells a story that far precedes Stonewall. Thank you very much for your in-depth reporting. We all walk on the trials of so many that precede us and cleared a path that while it seemed treacherous to us, it was so much more open to our fresh footprints.

  • @jamesryan360
    @jamesryan360 Місяць тому +12

    Turned this vid off after a couple of minutes and immediately tracked the movie down on yt. Great stuff cheers. I'll watch the rest of yours when it's over (25 minutes to go)

    • @MattBaume
      @MattBaume  Місяць тому +4

      Aw that's awesome, Victim kind of fell off the radar over the decades, so I'm glad to shine a spotlight on it!

    • @jamesryan360
      @jamesryan360 Місяць тому +2

      @MattBaume I'd never heard of it. I love discovering old movies. I've always been an outsider and loner myself, guess that's why I love this channel bro. I think I've watched all your videos so far. And it helps that u seem to be the coolest dude in the world(haha ok that's enough ass kissing, I just love the content on this channel

  • @cuppapablo
    @cuppapablo Місяць тому +19

    Sorry I missed the UA-cam pre-show. I had caught a case of the gay.
    Not only was it well acted and written, but so beautifully shot. My god the camera work and lighting.

    • @CareelBay
      @CareelBay Місяць тому +2

      “a case of the gay”?! And what do you do to treat that then?! 😉 🤭

  • @binkle76
    @binkle76 Місяць тому +25

    Great video, Matt. Some lawmakers in FL could learn a lesson from this movie...

  • @EveEsquire
    @EveEsquire Місяць тому +65

    Absolutely brilliant! The fact England said “homosexual” before the US in 1964 in THE BEST MAN is eye opening and a revelation of our own repression.

    • @queenannsrevenge100
      @queenannsrevenge100 Місяць тому

      Britain ended legal slavery before the U.S. did, and even enabled gay marriage before the U.S. - so them having another freedom first like homosexuals openly in films is not surprising. The only thing the U.S. DID get to first was women's sufferage. 😆

    • @gerardmackay8909
      @gerardmackay8909 Місяць тому +2

      The first time a man was referred to as ‘gay’ on US mainstream TV was the Mary Tyler Moore show around 1970/71. Rhoda is telling her mother on the phone her new male neighbour isn’t dating material. She lists several reasons and her mother dismisses them all till finally an exasperated Rhoda shouts ‘MOM he’s GAY!!!’ This was filmed before a live audience and the shocked gasps and screams were incredible.

  • @susanmorano405
    @susanmorano405 Місяць тому +7

    I love that movie. When Dirk Bogarde loses it with his wife -- superb acting, totally believable breakdown.

  • @KravKernow
    @KravKernow Місяць тому +12

    I didn't know she also did Sapphire. That's such a great film too.

  • @garycolton6522
    @garycolton6522 28 днів тому +4

    Victim is a very bold and daring movie….excellent!.

  • @darrensellers
    @darrensellers Місяць тому +20

    Brilliant video. As a UK viewer loved the UK content. I also loved the Golden Girls video you did, one of my favourites.

    • @AndImsomelady-fq6cw
      @AndImsomelady-fq6cw Місяць тому +6

      You Brits were years ahead of the us in lots of social issues. Hell MTV banned a queen video in the late 80s because they were wearing dresses.

  • @kassemir
    @kassemir Місяць тому +24

    It's actually wild that this law was on the book all the way in to 1978.
    Like, that means there are like lots, and lots of gay people who are still alive today who was at one time or another imprisoned.
    Actually pretty scary. I also feel like some sort of reparations would have been just, as going to prison for years will absolutely wreck your life, both socially and financially.

    • @itsgonnabeanaurfromme
      @itsgonnabeanaurfromme Місяць тому

      Gay people are being murdered for being gay in countries like mine today. You guys need to remember that civil rights aren't as advanced as in your countries

    • @wereoctopus
      @wereoctopus Місяць тому +4

      Here in Australia, decriminalisation happened state-by-state, starting with South Australia in 1975 and ending with Tasmania in **1997**. I don't know what typical sentencing was like though.
      In the United States, 14 states still had sodomy laws in force until 2003, when the Supreme Court ruled them unconstitutional in Lawrence v. Texas. 12 of them still haven't actually repealed said laws.

    • @neilgodwin6531
      @neilgodwin6531 Місяць тому +7

      Until I was 11, in 1967, it was illegal to be gay. Full repeal of anti gay law came gradually. The age of consent was 21 until much later. At 19, I technically broke the law or my 21 year old partner did. The age was reduced to 18, then the Labour government finally equalised the age of consent at 16 at the turn of the millennium

    • @wereoctopus
      @wereoctopus Місяць тому +2

      @@neilgodwin6531 yeah, in my state of NSW, homosexuality was decriminalised in 1984 (a few years before I was born) but it took until 2003 for age of consent to be equalised (to 16, from 18).
      At the time, NSW had no exception for partners close in age, though that would likely affect sentencing, and/or police discretion in choosing whether to lay charges in the first place.
      Additionally, it wasn't until 2014 that people in NSW with historical anti-homosexual convictions could get them expunged.

    • @okamiseven
      @okamiseven Місяць тому

      Texas had sodomy laws until 2003

  • @ReddNSlymmProductions
    @ReddNSlymmProductions Місяць тому +13

    What a refreshing video! I am completely new to "VICTIM" and is now on a must watch list, thank you for bringing this to light, Matt :)

  • @t.p.mckenna
    @t.p.mckenna Місяць тому +28

    I always counsel that major societal changes cannot be attributed to one-off events. Nothing was going to change until Wolfenden's report - advocating the decriminanlisation of homosexaul acts - and even then, it would be not be till eleven years later that legislation was passed to make that happen, and even then even then, only in England & Wales. Scotland and Northern Ireland having to wait till much later.

    • @omp199
      @omp199 Місяць тому

      It's sad how far one has to scroll through comments to find people who know what they are talking about! Thanks for this comment.
      According to the UK Parliament website, though, Wolfenden's report was published on 5th September 1957, and the Sexual Offences Act received Royal Assent on 21st July 1967. So, just under ten years!

    • @t.p.mckenna
      @t.p.mckenna Місяць тому +1

      @@omp199 I stand corrected there as I've rounded up somewhat, but my overall point stands. The Wolfenden process started back in 1954. Decriminalisation, what's more, only came by the narrowest of definitions - no more than two males 'at it' - in private. I can't remember the exact wording, but I'm sure the expectation was the bedroom, lest a couple start getting it on in the kitchen. What if the gas man came in to read the meter. What indeed!! Then there was all the police intimidation of the bars and cruising spots. I wasn't cautioned once as last as 2003! As I say, change comes mighty slowly which is why I'll always pipe up when someone says 'this is the X which changed everything'.

    • @cerysfrost3215
      @cerysfrost3215 4 дні тому

      @@omp199 21st July is my birthday, and I never knew that. Section 28 (banning local authorities in the UK "promoting homosexuality") was repealed in Scotland in 2000 and England in 2003, which I find shockingly late.

  • @JordyBoothy
    @JordyBoothy Місяць тому +5

    As a filmmaker/animator it's really empowering to hear how fiction has been a force for real social change. Great video as always!

  • @CakeboyRiP
    @CakeboyRiP Місяць тому +7

    Sometimes i wish i could have been at those first few screenings of movies like this to see the reaction of the public myself

  • @marytaylor9398
    @marytaylor9398 Місяць тому +15

    I'm straight and I absolutely love your series Matt! This video in particular is very touching. I love Victor/Victoria and To Wong Foo. Will you ever do a video on those films?

    • @Uiiiiuybn
      @Uiiiiuybn Місяць тому +5

      Victor Victoria, YES!

    • @caranook
      @caranook Місяць тому +2

      Victor Victoria is one of my all time favourite films, I need matt to cover it!

    • @lastyeehaw715
      @lastyeehaw715 Місяць тому +1

      I think he already did a video of Wong Foo some years ago!

    • @marytaylor9398
      @marytaylor9398 Місяць тому +1

      @@lastyeehaw715 I thought he did too, but I can't find it anywhere.

    • @lastyeehaw715
      @lastyeehaw715 Місяць тому +2

      @marytaylor9398 Never mind, I was thinking of his video on Priscilla Queen of the Desert. In which case: seconded! A To Wong Foo video would be cool

  • @LavenderLinguist
    @LavenderLinguist Місяць тому +5

    My graduation gift was a framed print of the Wolfendon Report translated into Polari. Thank you Matt, for shedding light on a part of my country's queer history I hadn't heard of before. It filled me with pride to see the poster you flashed up at 35:31 was for a meeting to change the law in Deansgate, Manchester - the city I was born in, and the part of it where I now live

  • @jvar_DC09
    @jvar_DC09 Місяць тому +14

    Bravo, Matt 👏👏👏
    SN: If there was anything positive that came out of the JS plagiarism mess, it was the exposure to simply beautiful and authentic content from creators such as you ❤

  • @MildMisanthropeMaybeMassive
    @MildMisanthropeMaybeMassive Місяць тому +5

    36:25 “He looked too old…no one wanted to hire an old man.”
    I can believe that. Max Von Sydow wore age makeup for _The Exorcist_ and he said afterward he was offered less leading man roles because everyone thought he was really that old.

  • @markmh835
    @markmh835 Місяць тому +6

    What an enjoyable coincidence. Just last week I dusted off my VHS copy of "Victim" (and the VCR for that matter) to watch it for the first time in a few years. And then you step forward with this in-depth history and analysis. God bless you! You made an already great movie even better. A remarkable and important film! 😊👍❤🌈

  • @ireallydidntwanttomakeanac575
    @ireallydidntwanttomakeanac575 Місяць тому +10

    I do hope that there is more British Media coverage coming on this channel, there is a whole lot to say about it.

  • @fanorama1
    @fanorama1 Місяць тому +4

    Such a groundbreaking film. Dirk was brave to tackle this role at the time.

  • @ThomasBaxter
    @ThomasBaxter Місяць тому +7

    I've never been this late to a new Matt Baume video before. FOUR HOURS?!
    I need to re-examine my life choices.

  • @thekiss2083
    @thekiss2083 Місяць тому +2

    Referencing the Eagle AND the Star Wars prequels is why you're my favorite video essayist

  • @Bazroshan
    @Bazroshan 24 дні тому +4

    There is a moment when Mel's (Bogarde's) clerk says 'I have never doubted your integrity and I see no reason to doubt it now' or words to that effect, I burst into tears at that moment because of the simplicity of the clerk's response. This calm, rational response is the opposite of the emotional, horrified response of the newspaper-reading public.

  • @ianfoster6601
    @ianfoster6601 Місяць тому +5

    Damn, mate. I've been enjoying your channel for a while now, but this is the first one that's made me cry. Excellent work, mate.

  • @picahudsoniaunflocked5426
    @picahudsoniaunflocked5426 Місяць тому +3

    19:19 "...or in your real life..."
    I just recovered a Prussian early memory of seeing a Pride sign or t-shirt that said "1 in every 9 of you is one of us".
    Dirk Bogarde's a wonderful actor. He's great in A Bridge Too Far, one of my favourite movies.

  • @EricWardDesign
    @EricWardDesign Місяць тому +6

    Matt...Thank you! I have mentioned this movie to my 'gay circle' and cocktail gatherings over the last couple decades since I accidentally discovered it; generally,my fellow gay men's lack of knowledge about this film has astonished me. Your much deserved 'celebration' of its brave example is a beautifully well-crafted, and succinct, homage. Finally!

  • @zoinomiko
    @zoinomiko Місяць тому +3

    I had to stop watching halfway through this and go find the movie. What an incredible, masterful piece of work, and not only for its impact. Thank you for this insightful look into such an important piece of media. ~excited new subscriber

  • @jaredbaratta8589
    @jaredbaratta8589 Місяць тому +90

    Look at the way England fucked over Alan Turing. THE IMITATION GAME should be your next review.

    • @darrensellers
      @darrensellers Місяць тому +6

      Speak to Dermot Turing on camera about Alan Turin, he researched him for his book on him and gives great insight.

    • @avi111986
      @avi111986 Місяць тому +3

      That's a good idea. Seconded!

    • @flashrobbie
      @flashrobbie Місяць тому +12

      he should but should mention the petition, pardon, apology, Alan Turing Law which retrospectively pardons men previously prosecuted, Alan Turing Year, Alan Turing Day, the statues, stamps and coins - all of which happened before the movie. And he should speak to John Graham-Cunningham who started that petition.

    • @douglasjohnson4382
      @douglasjohnson4382 Місяць тому +10

      That movie is largely fictional.

    • @neilgodwin6531
      @neilgodwin6531 Місяць тому

      ​@@flashrobbieIt should not have been a pardon, that implies guilt. They broke the law in the same way Schindler broke the law. It was a bad law, victims should have been totally exonerated.
      That said, Gordon Brown put Turing on a banknote, and streets have been renamed after him

  • @wwh484
    @wwh484 Місяць тому +2

    Have gone back to this film over and over again since discovering it more than 30 years ago. Still amazed it was made in 1961. Upon viewing your piece, ordered your British Board of Film Censors t-shirt IMMEDIATELY. Thanks!

  • @LouiseBrooksBob
    @LouiseBrooksBob Місяць тому +4

    3:32 "Celebrated actor John Gielgud." Not how most people are used to seeing him. 😂

  • @wildcatso
    @wildcatso Місяць тому +3

    I've just bought the dvd online because of your comments on this groundbreaking film. Thank you.

  • @alexander3699
    @alexander3699 Місяць тому +1

    Thanks so much, Matt for covering this gem of a film! It’s been part of my movie library and the commentary provided further its legacy and awareness for others to see!

  • @davidfisher6528
    @davidfisher6528 Місяць тому +8

    I love your content, and this, I did not know even existed. Thank you for showing it. Our arms are forever wrapped around you here in Kennewick Washington, Washington state on the mighty Columbia river.

  • @yuckmouth
    @yuckmouth Місяць тому +1

    Excellent work, Matt Baume. Well done! I thank you and your co-workers for all the great work you're doing.

  • @barbraseville8984
    @barbraseville8984 Місяць тому +2

    This is a beautiful story. Thank you for your diligence and dedication to preserve these stories!

  • @TheLovelyTraveler
    @TheLovelyTraveler Місяць тому +1

    Thank you for the work you do Matt. Your essays are incredibly well researched, your scripts and presentation engaging and entertaining and your production value is superb. I'm always excited to see you've posted a new video. Thanks again and keep up the great work!

  • @AdamBlack
    @AdamBlack Місяць тому +3

    Wow, Matt. I just want to thank you for introducing us to such a great movie. I've never heard of it, ( which surprises me becuase I took an Avante Garde film class. )
    Every scene here sounds compelling and well acted. I was surprised the film doesnt end at his suicide. That First act seems like a movie in itself.

  • @sep.s
    @sep.s Місяць тому +4

    Thank you for the captions ❤

  • @jayfrank1913
    @jayfrank1913 Місяць тому +2

    Thanks for another great production, Matt! It's always worth the wait.

  • @LydiaKrow
    @LydiaKrow Місяць тому +3

    I just love these in-depth examinations of movies! I especially love the way you introduced this and build the same suspense the filmmakers wanted you to feel - very clever!

  • @albertmarnell9976
    @albertmarnell9976 Місяць тому +2

    Beyond well done Matt Baume and crew! Thank you!

  • @lukemauerman3734
    @lukemauerman3734 Місяць тому +3

    Great video, Matt. I remember seeing "Victim" on TCM a few years back; knew it was bold but didn't think about the ground-breaking risks they were taking. But I do remember realising that blackmail back then must have been a horrible and constant danger

  • @phalseyv
    @phalseyv Місяць тому +2

    Thank you so much for spotlighting this film! I fell in love with Victim when I first saw it a few years ago but I haven’t been able to find much discussion about it on the internet. Your videos are always fantastic, so entertaining and well-researched and I’m so glad you’re calling attention to this very compelling and historically important film.

  • @samgradyfilm
    @samgradyfilm Місяць тому +4

    Oh this is great. Always enjoy your work. That Paul Lynd retrospective was fascinating. Great channel!

  • @myrrhis01
    @myrrhis01 Місяць тому +4

    The amount of learning I am taking away from this . . . Amazing! Thank you so much!

  • @zopizopi5054
    @zopizopi5054 Місяць тому +3

    I hadn't heard about this film. Thanks so very much for a very interesting and informative video.

  • @72PRODIGALSON
    @72PRODIGALSON Місяць тому +3

    YES!!!!!!!!! Another Matt Baume video! These are ALWAYS great! Thanks, Matt! We appreciate all your hard work!

  • @MrAtncc1701
    @MrAtncc1701 Місяць тому +1

    I love these videos, thanks, Matt! So glad to see a new one!!

  • @HigherIdeas
    @HigherIdeas Місяць тому +6

    Your channel is such an interesting intersection of Media History, Gay History, and so many heroes taking risks to overcome unjust laws. Always fascinating to watch, full of interesting facts. Congrats on coming up with something really unique, and IMO a helpful service for society. It's important to be aware of the past, to understand the mistakes of the present.

  • @user-fc7is6jo2e
    @user-fc7is6jo2e Місяць тому +2

    Thank you for making and sharing this very important topic.

  • @MrAsmontero
    @MrAsmontero Місяць тому +1

    Oh man, I love this channel! Thanks, Matt!

  • @jonatantomaz7058
    @jonatantomaz7058 18 днів тому +3

    I just watched the movie. It's a masterpiece!!! Thank you for sharing all this content. Made me think about all the other places where those laws still exist

  • @zetacrucis681
    @zetacrucis681 Місяць тому +2

    Thank you for making this video. I didn't know about this film. Alan Turing, genius, my heart cries out for you. Unforgivable.

  • @mr.harrison817
    @mr.harrison817 Місяць тому +3

    Such a fantastic video essay, Matt. Always so informative, well researched and entertaining. Thanks for covering a British perspective too!

  • @tiago161
    @tiago161 Місяць тому +5

    Your commentary is brilliant. Thank you!

  • @ciaran3207
    @ciaran3207 Місяць тому +1

    Another amazing retrospective Matt. Thanks for doing these. So interesting and important to see the work done by a brave few to contribute to the freedoms we enjoy today. Appreciate your hard work.

  • @PosthumousAddress
    @PosthumousAddress Місяць тому +1

    I was *so* hoping you'd mention Wolfenden, because it meant you really had carefully researched the era and the politics of it.
    Great video as always

  • @ronaldbomiajr117
    @ronaldbomiajr117 Місяць тому

    Thanks for this Matt! Thoroughly enjoyed this wonderful, informative video. ❤

  • @jameslawson6245
    @jameslawson6245 Місяць тому

    Thank you Matt Baume for this one! And all that you do For OUR Community! I Always Share!

  • @ChicaG-vg7pj
    @ChicaG-vg7pj Місяць тому +1

    Fascinating video! TY for featuring the movie, one I'd never heard of before.

  • @keithmockett3810
    @keithmockett3810 Місяць тому +1

    Matt Love your videos! This one in particular had me in tears! Cheers Chum! xxx

  • @lgbition
    @lgbition Місяць тому +1

    You made such a great historical research ! Very good analysis. 👏🏽 ❤

  • @isabelsoares4942
    @isabelsoares4942 Місяць тому +1

    Just introduced your channel to a friend who loved it

  • @CroobieLetter
    @CroobieLetter Місяць тому +6

    This might be your best video yet!

  • @tomlidot4871
    @tomlidot4871 Місяць тому +2

    Didn't this hit the spot! What a great piece. I never knew about this film nor it's impact. Thanks Matt.

  • @epg644
    @epg644 Місяць тому +6

    It on MAX presently. Fantastic film. See it. And another great treatment by Matt Baume!

  • @nicholaspjames
    @nicholaspjames Місяць тому +2

    Brilliant explanation of this film and the huge impact it had. Thank you Matt Baume.