Everybody Should know this... Sizing Your Earth, Adiabatic Equation Checking for Thermal Constraints

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  • Опубліковано 6 сер 2024
  • How to size your earth or CPC of a circuit. Want to save money by installing a smaller Cable. Check your earth for thermal constraints. Have a design problem or doing an inspection and test or even a BS7671 update course this will help. Apply the Adiabatic equation to a circuit in a simple breakdown of the calculation and application.
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  • @peterjones2761
    @peterjones2761 2 місяці тому +3

    I didn't realise that if i run the same size cpc (16mm) alongside a 2c x 16mm SWA it need not be calculated. Thats almost 30 mins of my life I won't get back.
    Good video though. Never had luxury information like this in the late 70's, struggled like hell at college in the days when the lecturer guy would clip you round the head if you didn't get it right first time.

    • @sparkyhelp3997
      @sparkyhelp3997  2 місяці тому +1

      Glad you liked it, happy days at college...

  • @timhoward7037
    @timhoward7037 2 роки тому +6

    This is the best video I've ever seen on the subject. Finally, something I can give to trainees that they stand a hope of understanding. Thanks hugely!

    • @sparkyhelp3997
      @sparkyhelp3997  2 роки тому +2

      Many thanks, I have produced it for the guys I teach, I just need them to look at it... Please share like and subscribe.

    • @thesilentgamer4210
      @thesilentgamer4210 8 місяців тому

      hello sir, im curious, why you choose .1 for disconnection time? not 5 seconds? can you help to explain sir or anybody know

    • @Davidhughes9467
      @Davidhughes9467 8 місяців тому

      ⁠@@thesilentgamer4210He uses the figure in the chart and lines it up in the graph against seconds.

  • @mikegmarshall
    @mikegmarshall Рік тому +3

    Without a doubt the best detailed explanation of this I have seen. Thanks!

    • @sparkyhelp3997
      @sparkyhelp3997  Рік тому +1

      You're very welcome! Please Like, Share and Subscribe.

    • @mikegmarshall
      @mikegmarshall Рік тому +1

      @@sparkyhelp3997 Done 👍👍

  • @paulbradbury4612
    @paulbradbury4612 Рік тому +2

    I'm trying to brush up on my cable calculations and this video is concise and clear. It answers my question re. plucking a t value out of the table on the time current characteristics for the adiabatic calculation. Not easy information to come by it seems. Shame it has so few viewings/ thumbs up. It makes me think electricians are familiar with the theory already or they ignore it... Mmm, I wonder which?

    • @sparkyhelp3997
      @sparkyhelp3997  Рік тому +1

      Many thanks, glad it helped.
      Please Like, Share & Subscribe - maybe the viewing figure will go up in time!

  • @leonbryce8384
    @leonbryce8384 21 день тому +1

    Great video, very clear and precise only thing I spotted and can be quite confusing 9:27 there’s a typo in the calculation

    • @sparkyhelp3997
      @sparkyhelp3997  21 день тому +1

      Many thanks, the values are all rounded up/down. But thankyou all the same - hopefully you find it useful, please share with like minded people or maybe even like and subscribe.

  • @peanutpotion
    @peanutpotion 3 місяці тому +1

    Great videos thanks alot

    • @sparkyhelp3997
      @sparkyhelp3997  3 місяці тому +1

      Glad you like them! Please share with like minded or maybe even like and subscribe.

  • @t33bee8
    @t33bee8 2 роки тому +1

    Great video. Thanks

    • @sparkyhelp3997
      @sparkyhelp3997  2 роки тому +1

      Glad you liked it please like, share and subscribe. Thankyou.

  • @Alex-qb8no
    @Alex-qb8no 2 роки тому +1

    very simple to follow, thank you

    • @sparkyhelp3997
      @sparkyhelp3997  2 роки тому +1

      You are welcome! Please Like Share & Subscribe.

  • @user-wx2rm9yl2j
    @user-wx2rm9yl2j 5 місяців тому +1

    Awesome

    • @sparkyhelp3997
      @sparkyhelp3997  5 місяців тому +1

      Many Thanks, Glad you liked it, please share with like minded people or like and subscribe.

  • @user-iq8eh4yb3q
    @user-iq8eh4yb3q 2 місяці тому +1

    This is a great video, I have one query - what happens to the I^2 value if the circuit breaker or fuse is current limiting. Does the device operating in 0.1 second not limit the fault current in the circuit to the value shown in the table?
    Apologies if this has been asked already but I’ve read 2 books to revise for a 2396 exam a they don’t seem to answer the question.

    • @sparkyhelp3997
      @sparkyhelp3997  2 місяці тому +1

      Thankyou, please share with like minded people. Protective devices do not limit current - on the contrary they will disconnect quicker (for a thermal device that is) the more current that passes through (let through energy = I^2xt). It will be the ohmic value that will limit current. Hope you liked and subscribed. Again many thanks.

    • @NaciMahmut-rf5xf
      @NaciMahmut-rf5xf Місяць тому +1

      The limiting of the current is being done for the conductors by the disconnection of supply before the fault current can damage the cables.
      If your exam is on the 13th, I’ve been told to brush up on your earth & bonding knowledge.
      & there might be a LV transformer diagram to draw. Don’t know which one tho.
      All this is rumours of course.
      Good luck.

    • @sparkyhelp3997
      @sparkyhelp3997  Місяць тому +1

      @@NaciMahmut-rf5xf Good Luck

  • @bentebbit7439
    @bentebbit7439 4 місяці тому +1

    At 4:40 when calculating the fault current, wouldn't you multiply Uo by Cmax?

    • @sparkyhelp3997
      @sparkyhelp3997  4 місяці тому +1

      No you use Uo as it is Zs=(Uo X 0.95{Cmin})/Ia - this is used to find the Max Zs of protective devices. Hope that helps. Please share with like minded or maybe even like and subscribe.

  • @Teebile
    @Teebile 2 місяці тому +1

    Hi following on from Zs assistance ( Thank you)
    If Zs is 0.396 ohms
    Then If is 230/0.3960 = 580.81A
    If we apply the equation as above
    With a 0.1 disconnection time we end up with 183.67/115 = 1.597 mm
    This exceeds the 1.5mm CPC selected
    (2.5/1.5 was selected )
    Would cable choice be 2.5mm/2.5mm

    • @sparkyhelp3997
      @sparkyhelp3997  2 місяці тому +2

      Yes it is indeed, but you would need to verify it as the fault current would go up wit ha 2.5/2.5

    • @NaciMahmut-rf5xf
      @NaciMahmut-rf5xf Місяць тому +1

      Check what your protective device log says about the fault current & how quick it operates.
      When you divide your viltage by Zs, check your answer against the current requirement for disconnection to find your t value in the equation.

  • @Mogsoni
    @Mogsoni Рік тому +1

    I'm sizing for a distribution circuit , do I not use standard 5 secs or do what you have done with app 3 ?

    • @sparkyhelp3997
      @sparkyhelp3997  Рік тому +1

      Please Like Share & Subscribe.
      If you use 5 seconds this will show the conductors heating up in the longest disconnection time (presuming you circuit does disconnect at 5 seconds). Presuming your fault current is accurate and it does disconnect in the time indicated and the size determined is larger than the design size, then all will be good. Or you could determine the actual fault current based on your design and calculate the fault current to determine the size of conductor.
      Choice is yours - all academic if the conductors are oversized.

  • @dennisfowler7873
    @dennisfowler7873 2 роки тому +1

    i am very baffled about his formula...so...in order to ascertain fault current we would need to have an existing earth conductor...so why are we calculating the size when we already install the circuit...in reality we would have to ascertain the fault current...and thats only possible for the distribution circuit...could u correct me if im wrong

    • @sparkyhelp3997
      @sparkyhelp3997  2 роки тому +2

      You would be required to design the circuit before installation, this will ascertain if the designed cable is adequate before going to the expense of buying and then installing the wrong cable. Its all in the design. hope that helps.

  • @BULLEAD
    @BULLEAD 2 роки тому +1

    Could you tell me if it is acceptable to use this equation to ascertain wether or not an existing 6mm csa bonding conductor on an TNS supply system is adequate?

    • @sparkyhelp3997
      @sparkyhelp3997  2 роки тому +1

      HI see this video - as bonding is partly sized in accordance with the incoming supply size - ua-cam.com/video/TkL8vBAeC_c/v-deo.html

  • @michaelcostello6991
    @michaelcostello6991 7 місяців тому +1

    At 6:55 in table it says for 0.1 to 5 secs. Why do we pick 0.1 secs ?

    • @sparkyhelp3997
      @sparkyhelp3997  7 місяців тому +1

      Hi Because the fault current that flows will disconnect the protective device in 0.1Second (see graph App 3)
      Hope that helps, Please Like, Share & Subscribe.

    • @michaelcostello6991
      @michaelcostello6991 7 місяців тому +1

      And what fault current gives 5 seconds . Thats what confuses me. Table says 0.1 to 5

    • @sparkyhelp3997
      @sparkyhelp3997  7 місяців тому +1

      It's a circuit breaker type B & C will disconnect in 0.1 sec if they meet the design fault current threshold see this video to help your understanding:
      ua-cam.com/video/caWAevix9a0/v-deo.html

  • @Potato96780
    @Potato96780 2 роки тому +1

    Why are you going across at 6:34?