+Chris Peters atta boy. Been running it all day. Need a little more draft to run it hotter but the stove is steady around 500. I've found that if I throw a piece of pine on top of it I can get it around 800 no problem just by creating more draft from the hotter chimney.
Morning Jim. Very cool of your boss to let you use the shop. It must have been great working in shirt sleeves. Looking forward to seeing how it works out. Timber framing is how I found your channel, but I enjoy all your videos. Have an awesome Sunday.
Morning Jim, Definitely want to see the new coal grate in action. Fitting it, loading it, lighting it, and how much tending it takes as compared with hard wood fire 🔥. Thanks for sharing.
My wood insert burns 24/7 during the winter. I had it installed two years ago. Travis Industries makes it and i heat my whole house with minimal help from my gas furnaces. Pack it at 10 PM and there are hot coals to easily restart in AM. My house is 3400 sq ft and I enjoy cutting the wood and feeding the fire. Family loves the comfort of the fire, as well.
Hi Jim, John from Putnam County. I've burned coal for years. We have a coal supplier in Brewster that used to have every size of coal. I usually get stove coal - once I got a bunch of boulder size lump coal. To fit it in the stove I had to break it with a hammer. I found this coal burned very hot because it had coal oil in it. ONE thing to check is the need for fire brick. My stove is made with 1/4" boilerplate. I got it from a factory that was discontinuing them. Even though it's made from boilerplate steel, the firebox is lined with firebrick. Anthracite burns hotter and leaves you with less clinkers than Bituminous coal. Good luck with staying warm - woke up to 2 degrees down here.
+nyjohn12 -3 here today. My stove is brick lined. Once the house heats up today I'm going to try it out. I figure it'll take a few hours get it burning, we'll see.
Interesting Jim. I like how you think. Have a problem, figure out a way to fix it. I've always wondered if you could get an older stove and burn coal in it. Guess I'll have to find one that vents from the bottom. Be sure to share the results. Tim
Hi Jim. It should work. I grew up in PA. Always liked hard coal, soft coal has more klinkers doesn’t burn as well in my opinion. The good news is it is warming up here the bad news calling for freezing rain. Headed your way. Looking forward to the updates.
Coal is dirt "dirt cheap " I really appreciate your humor. My catalyst stove was expensive but goes 12 hours on a load of wood. Burns really clean, good for air quality.
+Michael VanGundy out of curiosity, what kind of stove do you have? As for dirt cheap, the way firewood prices are going around here it's cheaper to burn coal if you bought it by the ton.
Good job Jim and morning to you sir good luck with this one hope it works for you I can’t see why it shouldn’t. Nothing worse than getting up two or three times a night at my age I have no choice have to shake the mig torch not fun. Cheers bud interesting as usual
Grandpa had a big stove in the basement. He cut tons of wood to use most of the season, but when he really had to run the stove hard he had a coal room in the end of the basement and could load it up to make it thru the whole night. He would burn wood because it was almost free, just some gas for the saw and a chain now and then, all the firewood he cut was from loggin or the forest service cleaning up firebreaks and cutting roadways for the loggers. But he bought coal really cheap as he was in the coalfields of southwestern Virgina. Lived in that house over 50 years and dad put grandpa in an oil stove for his 90th birthday and paid for all the oil it used. But grandpa still built a fire and kept it off most of the time. If the stove is good and hot most of the time the ash will be very little. Don't throw it out, keep it and put it on your garden spot it will help build the soil up. I don't know what minerals is in coal ash but grandpa just spread it out all winter long and then tilled it under in the spring. It might help with the pH of the soil.
It would be cool to see if that works. I have to go see if our tractor supply store in Canada sells Cole. I have not seen it there before. But when I go there I tend to get distracted. The cold can stop any time now. Have a good one man
we cant get it here unless we have it shipped in from BC or SK it 7$ cnd a ton at the mine for 2" grated so {(peace up to 2") when I was selling the heatmaster SS outdoor furnaces that are made to burn wood or coal, they even have a port on the back for an auto auger, I had it shipped in by B train truck, from BC it is farther away then sk but much better coal i.e btu sk coal is to much moisture sold in a 1 ton tottes
We throw a piece of lump coal in the burn barrel out on the desert at night before bed. She burns good and hot. Gives us an easy start up in the morning to get timber going for breakfast. Good luck. I hope it works out.
I'm really looking forward to this subzero weather to break. Congrats on 5k. I know what you mean about screaming children. One of the reasons I am eager to build my workshop is I want a stress free place to work. Another bad thing about this weather. 3 kids stuck inside the house full of energy. Take care man. Hope the stove works out.
It was a flop, ended up getting a coal stove. No looking back now. The grate actually worked but I couldn't get the coal bed deep enough to last any length of time.
New to the channel.....just stumbled upon it......reading through comments I see you were not pleased with the grate and bought a coal stove. Any insight/recommendations on a stove? Been burning wood all my life. Currently burn a US stove.... Clayton 1500 from tractor supply since 2008. Takes 30" log. Been poking around at coal or wood/coal combos.......reviews appear to be conflicting although informative! THOUGHTS?????🇺🇸
Hitzer is about the best but they are expensive. The nice thing is is that they burn wood well too. Coal this year is incredibly expensive where I live in the northeast.
Jim, can the wood stove take the heat as produced from coal. My concern would be that the metal may crack or the metal will oxidize at a much higher rate than would be considered acceptable.
+To Rauscher its possible. I run this stove at 800 to 900 all winter, it's run like that for 30 years. It is brick, I wouldn't even attempt it otherwise.
TheTradesmanChannel 2017 that's hotter than I ever ran my stove, however I live in California in a much warmer climate than you and the stove was made out of steel, not cast iron.
Good morning Jim, twenty below here this morning. Great project! I have a Classic wood stove by Central Boiler. I've had it for twenty one years and your project is giving me ideas! My stove has a large air vent to the side, about four or five inches up from the bottom of the wood box which is opened by a solenoid when the water temperature reaches a certain level. The stove works great and is one of the best decisions I have ever made in my life. Only problem is, I'm getting older and cutting twelve cords of wood each year is reaching my limits. Your coal idea is very interesting and I was wondering if it would work in my stove? I'm looking forward to the outcome of your project. What kind of stove are you adapting? Thanks for another great video.
+John Collado it's an old Lopi woodstove that beings air from the bottom. By next year I plan to put a Hitzer stove in. If I get the house warmed up enough today I'm going to fire it up.
Morning Jim! You seem to be aware of most of the problems of changing a wood-burner to Coal already, but be careful .... Anthracite burns HOT and it can warp and even crack the walls of your wood-burner! I have a small (5KW) multi fuel burner in my main room and you are right the airflow needs to come from below on Coal and above for wood. There is usually a griddle grate to allow the ash to drop into the dustpan, but this is just a "proof of concept"! One other thing to watch for is if you have been burning wood at low temperatures it can cause the chimney to act as a condenser and condense Creosote out of the wood smoke ...... which can cause chimney fires! In the UK the fire brigade would just pump water down the brick chimney to put it out, but with your wood constructions it may be a bit more of a sphincter test for the home owner ;O) Also all coals are not equal! You can get coal with a high tar content that may not be too good for this type of fire ...... but I will stop telling you stuff you probably already know! I expect to see a video that starts off with you lighting her up, stoking her up, banking her down ..... and then changing to the Mrs filming you with your feet up dozing off in comfort ;O) May I sugest this as your background track to that video? ua-cam.com/video/eawL6aJ2nBc/v-deo.html .... It is probably an English Thing!
Great comment matey👏🏻would u advise me about a SMOKELESS coal stove I NEED for my workshop....thinking bout using a 47 kg propane gas tank OR a 1/4” steel plate construction..... Any advice about dimensions in the context of MAX heat output? Baffle or not? Air inlets? Obviously I’d like to get it right.....TIA🤙🏻🤙🏻🤙🏻
@@charlescampbell1319 I assume you want the opinion of Jim on this one? ;0) Good designs are not as simple as you might expect .... and it Will smoke even if you use smokeless coke! One of the key things is to get the fire fed from below through a grille. This will erode over time so the bigger the better, but you want to be able to riddle it. Another thing is to keep the actual burn contained and not to allow the heat out too much. This is usually done with Fire Bricks which are almost always flat ..... so a plate build might be good for that aspect (if you are a good welder). If I were to be totally honest I would advise copying the dimensions from one that works well already. Remember there is a Big difference between Coal burner and a wood burner ..... few designs work well with both fuel types
Some great comments here... at first I was concerned that burning coal would coat your chimney with a powder that could ignite or start a chimney fire. That would be my concern. Can't wait to see the results...
Interesting to say the least. Kinda miss you freezing your jewels off. hehe. Coal, what is this coal you are talking about? Around here there is absolutely no coal to be found. I've been into Tractor Supply, Orschlens, Lowes, HomeDepot, and other farm related businesses and have NEVER seen a bag of coal. Must be a northern thing. Lots of silly bundles of oak flitches for $4 per, but never coal. Will be waiting for the firing up in the wood stove. Nice to see you not freezing for a change, Jim. Keep warm.
Hmm...using one of dem girly welders in a warm shop huh. j/k, its cold up there and I like migs too. Interesting project, so does it work? Coal can be frustrating to learn, its almost backwards of burning wood. Keep the bed deep and the ash clear and you will be warm and happy.
My dad had a coal furnace and I believe it was cast iron. They got rid of it in the 70's. I would think in your line of work there might be a few still around.
I have not seen your stove, but you are on the right track, your also wright you will not get a month out of it never mind a season but again depending on the wood stove design, if it is light gage you will see some funny bending if you don't put some heavy plates in it, finnaly sitting at warmer temp of -10 an snow, next 5 days should be only -10 to -15..
brick lined,, you be good then, your frame I think will be the only problem, but like you said, it testing only, if you put one more leg on each side in the middle it be go to town, I would have made the main frame out of 2x3x3/8 wall tube.. the pipes are good don't cap the tubs or pipes, air cooled though
stove would probably burn hotter .. it is not so much the stove, it is the type of coal, bentonite coal has the best BTU, the moisture is the lowest of all other coals and has the longest burn time, 1 ton of it is equal to 1.68 cords of birch dry, bentonite coal cost 7$ ton at the BC MINE cut split cord birch 170$ cnd, bentonite coal 1 ton burn time that of 2.47 cords birch
I was SOO busting your chops regarding the crappy working height on the table/cart. Tell the boss he needs better RAISED working surfaces to prevent back injuries.
Hi Jim just a couple of observations, as kids we used to have coal fires in the Uk until the Clean Air Act banned its use, don’t worry I’m not going all environmental on you just to make the point it was along time ago. Wasn’t anthracite the clean burning high temperature coal used in steam engines? Ours came small size like you showed, very hard and black delivered in hessian sacks it burned very hot and relatively quickly, my folks originated from Midlothian in Scotland, up there the family got coal delivered as lump coal very large brown rocks (lignite? My memory fades) often 6-10” in size, relatively soft, it burned slowly with jets of flame coming out of it as some volatile substance vented off as it burned. Don’t know if you get the choice but Large lumps will burn slower than the small pieces you showed. Isn’t anthracite the blacksmithing coal of choice crushed to small chips?
+Graham Monaghan good morning and I very much enjoyed your comment. Anthracite is a very clean burning coal whereas bituminous coal is soft, dirty burning and preferred by blacksmiths. This is just an experiment to see how it works.
Buying it like that is $600 per ton, that's pretty expensive. I don't know where you're at but you can buy coal where I'm at for $30-$85 per ton depending on the quality. And you're going to want to use lump coal for what you're wanting to do because that small stuff will burn up way to fast where you are wanting it to burn all night!
+Clyde Acor thank you for the info. I can get it for $225 a ton up here. Buying it a bag at a time is a lot more expensive. I'm just trying it out to see how it does.
I thought about coal whenI lived in Minnesota but found out the sides of my stove weren’t thick enough done be careful I have heard coal can burn through lite steel easily.
There's not a damn thing wrong with your welding Jim. I see much worse daily sadly from people paid to do it. Also, for what it's worth, I can' run mig for crap. It seems like it's easy, but really getting in there with adequate penetration is very difficult. Mig only looks pretty most of the time and welds aren't jack unless you're a true master at it or running some nice fluxcore or dualshield that actually gets in there. Frankly, there's a reason why it's not used much at all on critical welds, i.e. pressure vessels, pipe, etc...
hay is for horses, sure I get a mouth full every day, still don't care for it... back to watch now, still no water in tapes but pugged off for now, until I can get between the floor
Morning Jim I'm really looking forward to seeing the results and hearing how well it works out for you. Nice project!
+Gary W good morning
That's what keeps us going. I really enjoy the videos. Thanks
There is more to life than trimmer frame, good video stay warm be safe.
That's awesome because I want to try something similar. Thanks for the great vid.
Nice work Jim, can't wait to see how it works. You know who to call if you need that coal analyzed!
+Chris Peters atta boy. Been running it all day.
Need a little more draft to run it hotter but the stove is steady around 500. I've found that if I throw a piece of pine on top of it I can get it around 800 no problem just by creating more draft from the hotter chimney.
Good day Jim,
Good luck with your experiment. Stay warm.
Morning Jim. Very cool of your boss to let you use the shop. It must have been great working in shirt sleeves. Looking forward to seeing how it works out. Timber framing is how I found your channel, but I enjoy all your videos. Have an awesome Sunday.
+Robert Weiland you have a good Sunday too Bob.
Morning Jim,
Definitely want to see the new coal grate in action. Fitting it, loading it, lighting it, and how much tending it takes as compared with hard wood fire 🔥.
Thanks for sharing.
+Thomas Russell good morning
My wood insert burns 24/7 during the winter. I had it installed two years ago. Travis Industries makes it and i heat my whole house with minimal help from my gas furnaces. Pack it at 10 PM and there are hot coals to easily restart in AM. My house is 3400 sq ft and I enjoy cutting the wood and feeding the fire. Family loves the comfort of the fire, as well.
+HumbleHeart there is no heat like it.
Hi Jim, John from Putnam County. I've burned coal for years. We have a coal supplier in Brewster that used to have every size of coal. I usually get stove coal - once I got a bunch of boulder size lump coal. To fit it in the stove I had to break it with a hammer. I found this coal burned very hot because it had coal oil in it. ONE thing to check is the need for fire brick. My stove is made with 1/4" boilerplate. I got it from a factory that was discontinuing them. Even though it's made from boilerplate steel, the firebox is lined with firebrick. Anthracite burns hotter and leaves you with less clinkers than Bituminous coal. Good luck with staying warm - woke up to 2 degrees down here.
+nyjohn12 -3 here today. My stove is brick lined. Once the house heats up today I'm going to try it out. I figure it'll take a few hours get it burning, we'll see.
I guess it's true - go south for warmer weather.
+nyjohn12 you got that right.
Interesting Jim. I like how you think. Have a problem, figure out a way to fix it. I've always wondered if you could get an older stove and burn coal in it. Guess I'll have to find one that vents from the bottom. Be sure to share the results. Tim
Hi Jim. It should work. I grew up in PA. Always liked hard coal, soft coal has more klinkers doesn’t burn as well in my opinion. The good news is it is warming up here the bad news calling for freezing rain. Headed your way. Looking forward to the updates.
Coal is dirt "dirt cheap " I really appreciate your humor. My catalyst stove was expensive but goes 12 hours on a load of wood. Burns really clean, good for air quality.
+Michael VanGundy out of curiosity, what kind of stove do you have? As for dirt cheap, the way firewood prices are going around here it's cheaper to burn coal if you bought it by the ton.
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Dutch West with a 24 " box. I've never seen coal. Good luck with your dirt burner.
Found the issue with your van.. right there on the front in the middle of the grill.
Hope your Friday is going well and keep up the good work!
+NCSU4x4 hey Jimmy
TheTradesmanChannel 2017 hey Jim.
Good morning Jim. Definitely be interesting to see how that works out. Big warm up tomorrow. Huge Tom hugeeeeeega! Hahaha. Stay warm brother!
+Adirondack Harold maybe my nuts will drop again
Jim you got to do what you got to do. Keep battling on
+Douglas Mungham hello Doug
Jim are the family all back to full health now, have you thought about insulation in the barn and what type
+Douglas Mungham foam board insulation with rockwool in the ceilings.
Cool and no I don't miss freezing my ass off in the apple I am a Oklahoman now spent 42 yrs of my life in hudson ny. Great video bub
Good job Jim and morning to you sir good luck with this one hope it works for you I can’t see why it shouldn’t. Nothing worse than getting up two or three times a night at my age I have no choice have to shake the mig torch not fun. Cheers bud interesting as usual
+David Chadwick hello David. It's good to hear from you.
Hay love child ....that comment was hilarious...thks for the laugh out loud....
+Lorne Lepage anytime. Good morning.
Grandpa had a big stove in the basement. He cut tons of wood to use most of the season, but when he really had to run the stove hard he had a coal room in the end of the basement and could load it up to make it thru the whole night. He would burn wood because it was almost free, just some gas for the saw and a chain now and then, all the firewood he cut was from loggin or the forest service cleaning up firebreaks and cutting roadways for the loggers. But he bought coal really cheap as he was in the coalfields of southwestern Virgina. Lived in that house over 50 years and dad put grandpa in an oil stove for his 90th birthday and paid for all the oil it used. But grandpa still built a fire and kept it off most of the time. If the stove is good and hot most of the time the ash will be very little. Don't throw it out, keep it and put it on your garden spot it will help build the soil up. I don't know what minerals is in coal ash but grandpa just spread it out all winter long and then tilled it under in the spring. It might help with the pH of the soil.
+gary kidd great story, thanks for sharing.
coal ash is toxic, do NOT put it on your garden!
Great video!!! You are a sharp person
+Paul Tanner thanks Paul, I just think a lot about different things.
It would be cool to see if that works. I have to go see if our tractor supply store in Canada sells Cole. I have not seen it there before. But when I go there I tend to get distracted. The cold can stop any time now. Have a good one man
+cheap homesteading good morning.
we cant get it here unless we have it shipped in from BC or SK it 7$ cnd a ton at the mine for 2" grated so {(peace up to 2") when I was selling the heatmaster SS outdoor furnaces that are made to burn wood or coal, they even have a port on the back for an auto auger, I had it shipped in by B train truck, from BC it is farther away then sk but much better coal i.e btu sk coal is to much moisture sold in a 1 ton tottes
Wow Jim, looks like someone got some new boots from Santa.... lol
We throw a piece of lump coal in the burn barrel out on the desert at night before bed. She burns good and hot. Gives us an easy start up in the morning to get timber going for breakfast. Good luck. I hope it works out.
I'm really looking forward to this subzero weather to break. Congrats on 5k. I know what you mean about screaming children. One of the reasons I am eager to build my workshop is I want a stress free place to work. Another bad thing about this weather. 3 kids stuck inside the house full of energy. Take care man. Hope the stove works out.
+Dillons Woodworks good morning. I love my kids but I hate commotion, my skin crawls in crowds.
TheTradesmanChannel 2017 I'm the same way. I'm a bit of a Hermit. My wife hates it
Hey Mr. Tradesman,
Did your coal conversion grate work?
It was a flop, ended up getting a coal stove. No looking back now. The grate actually worked but I couldn't get the coal bed deep enough to last any length of time.
Hello Jim, A science experiment show today. Looking forward to see how it works.
How can you tell between a coal
And a wood parlor stove . I would like to know .
New to the channel.....just stumbled upon it......reading through comments I see you were not pleased with the grate and bought a coal stove. Any insight/recommendations on a stove? Been burning wood all my life. Currently burn a US stove.... Clayton 1500 from tractor supply since 2008. Takes 30" log. Been poking around at coal or wood/coal combos.......reviews appear to be conflicting although informative! THOUGHTS?????🇺🇸
Hitzer is about the best but they are expensive. The nice thing is is that they burn wood well too. Coal this year is incredibly expensive where I live in the northeast.
@@TheTradesmanChannel thank you for ur thoughts.......upstate new york here......not sure where in northeast ur at.
Morning Jim, very interesting. MK
+Michael Kroeger we'll see, might work...might not. Worth a try.
Awesome video
Jim, can the wood stove take the heat as produced from coal. My concern would be that the metal may crack or the metal will oxidize at a much higher rate than would be considered acceptable.
+To Rauscher its possible. I run this stove at 800 to 900 all winter, it's run like that for 30 years. It is brick, I wouldn't even attempt it otherwise.
TheTradesmanChannel 2017 that's hotter than I ever ran my stove, however I live in California in a much warmer climate than you and the stove was made out of steel, not cast iron.
+To Rauscher this is brick lined steel
TheTradesmanChannel 2017 OK Jim. It sounds like you know what you are doing much better than I.
+To Rauscher don't say that, all perspectives are good.
Nice to be in a heated shop for a change....how's the coal working for you?
+exroyalcanadian not bad, need the right stove for it.
I'll be curious to see if the mig welds hold up to that kind of heat. Looking forward to an update.
+NKY Homesteading I'm not sure how this thing will do yet but it will be interesting to see.
Love your channel so far. Been following for a little over a month.
+NKY Homesteading glad you like it, I enjoy making the videos.
can't wait to see what happens ...... oh wait I can I was so late getting to this vid headed there now
Good morning Jim, twenty below here this morning. Great project! I have a Classic wood stove by Central Boiler. I've had it for twenty one years and your project is giving me ideas! My stove has a large air vent to the side, about four or five inches up from the bottom of the wood box which is opened by a solenoid when the water temperature reaches a certain level. The stove works great and is one of the best decisions I have ever made in my life. Only problem is, I'm getting older and cutting twelve cords of wood each year is reaching my limits. Your coal idea is very interesting and I was wondering if it would work in my stove? I'm looking forward to the outcome of your project. What kind of stove are you adapting? Thanks for another great video.
+John Collado it's an old Lopi woodstove that beings air from the bottom. By next year I plan to put a Hitzer stove in. If I get the house warmed up enough today I'm going to fire it up.
Good luck, looking forward to that video.
Morning Jim!
You seem to be aware of most of the problems of changing a wood-burner to Coal already, but be careful .... Anthracite burns HOT and it can warp and even crack the walls of your wood-burner! I have a small (5KW) multi fuel burner in my main room and you are right the airflow needs to come from below on Coal and above for wood. There is usually a griddle grate to allow the ash to drop into the dustpan, but this is just a "proof of concept"!
One other thing to watch for is if you have been burning wood at low temperatures it can cause the chimney to act as a condenser and condense Creosote out of the wood smoke ...... which can cause chimney fires! In the UK the fire brigade would just pump water down the brick chimney to put it out, but with your wood constructions it may be a bit more of a sphincter test for the home owner ;O) Also all coals are not equal! You can get coal with a high tar content that may not be too good for this type of fire ...... but I will stop telling you stuff you probably already know!
I expect to see a video that starts off with you lighting her up, stoking her up, banking her down ..... and then changing to the Mrs filming you with your feet up dozing off in comfort ;O)
May I sugest this as your background track to that video? ua-cam.com/video/eawL6aJ2nBc/v-deo.html .... It is probably an English Thing!
Great comment matey👏🏻would u advise me about a SMOKELESS coal stove I NEED for my workshop....thinking bout using a 47 kg propane gas tank OR a 1/4” steel plate construction.....
Any advice about dimensions in the context of MAX heat output?
Baffle or not?
Air inlets?
Obviously I’d like to get it right.....TIA🤙🏻🤙🏻🤙🏻
@@charlescampbell1319 I assume you want the opinion of Jim on this one? ;0)
Good designs are not as simple as you might expect .... and it Will smoke even if you use smokeless coke!
One of the key things is to get the fire fed from below through a grille. This will erode over time so the bigger the better, but you want to be able to riddle it. Another thing is to keep the actual burn contained and not to allow the heat out too much. This is usually done with Fire Bricks which are almost always flat ..... so a plate build might be good for that aspect (if you are a good welder).
If I were to be totally honest I would advise copying the dimensions from one that works well already.
Remember there is a Big difference between Coal burner and a wood burner ..... few designs work well with both fuel types
Couldn't have said it better Dave.
@@TheTradesmanChannel 5 Years!
Tempus Fugit!
@@totherarf thanks very much for the reply.....AND great advice👏🏻👏🏻
Some great comments here... at first I was concerned that burning coal would coat your chimney with a powder that could ignite or start a chimney fire. That would be my concern. Can't wait to see the results...
+Mike Scheve anthracite doesn't soot from all I've read. I do plan on a new stove for next year that is made for coal.
Interesting experiment. Never know until one tries.
Interesting to say the least. Kinda miss you freezing your jewels off. hehe.
Coal, what is this coal you are talking about? Around here there is absolutely no coal to be found. I've been into Tractor Supply, Orschlens, Lowes, HomeDepot, and other farm related businesses and have NEVER seen a bag of coal. Must be a northern thing. Lots of silly bundles of oak flitches for $4 per, but never coal. Will be waiting for the firing up in the wood stove. Nice to see you not freezing for a change, Jim. Keep warm.
+Tynyyn good morning Terry. I needed a break from being cold. It was nice to work in a heated shop.
Hmm...using one of dem girly welders in a warm shop huh. j/k, its cold up there and I like migs too. Interesting project, so does it work? Coal can be frustrating to learn, its almost backwards of burning wood. Keep the bed deep and the ash clear and you will be warm and happy.
+Craig F I don't want to spoil the next video but I was able to get the coal to burn.
My dad had a coal furnace and I believe it was cast iron. They got rid of it in the 70's. I would think in your line of work there might be a few still around.
Nice band saw Jimmy. Tell Logan to get the damn thing fixed
+pokketmyrocket that thing was a pain in the ass, throwing the blade every time I turned around.
I have not seen your stove, but you are on the right track, your also wright you will not get a month out of it never mind a season but again depending on the wood stove design, if it is light gage you will see some funny bending if you don't put some heavy plates in it, finnaly sitting at warmer temp of -10 an snow, next 5 days should be only -10 to -15..
+Arnold Romppai it's a well made stove, 1990 Lopi. It's brick lined top to bottom as well, drafts from the bottom.
brick lined,, you be good then, your frame I think will be the only problem, but like you said, it testing only, if you put one more leg on each side in the middle it be go to town, I would have made the main frame out of 2x3x3/8 wall tube.. the pipes are good don't cap the tubs or pipes, air cooled though
+Arnold Romppai good idea. It's been going 10 hours so far, I like it. A proper coal stove would probably burn hotter but it has been very steady.
stove would probably burn hotter .. it is not so much the stove, it is the type of coal, bentonite coal has the best BTU, the moisture is the lowest of all other coals and has the longest burn time, 1 ton of it is equal to 1.68 cords of birch dry, bentonite coal cost 7$ ton at the BC MINE cut split cord birch 170$ cnd, bentonite coal 1 ton burn time that of 2.47 cords birch
as long as the draft is coming from under that is, and your is
I was SOO busting your chops regarding the crappy working height on the table/cart. Tell the boss he needs better RAISED working surfaces to prevent back injuries.
Good evening. I like my benches tall, I hate hunching over.
Hi Jim just a couple of observations, as kids we used to have coal fires in the Uk until the Clean Air Act banned its use, don’t worry I’m not going all environmental on you just to make the point it was along time ago. Wasn’t anthracite the clean burning high temperature coal used in steam engines? Ours came small size like you showed, very hard and black delivered in hessian sacks it burned very hot and relatively quickly, my folks originated from Midlothian in Scotland, up there the family got coal delivered as lump coal very large brown rocks (lignite? My memory fades) often 6-10” in size, relatively soft, it burned slowly with jets of flame coming out of it as some volatile substance vented off as it burned. Don’t know if you get the choice but Large lumps will burn slower than the small pieces you showed. Isn’t anthracite the blacksmithing coal of choice crushed to small chips?
+Graham Monaghan good morning and I very much enjoyed your comment. Anthracite is a very clean burning coal whereas bituminous coal is soft, dirty burning and preferred by blacksmiths. This is just an experiment to see how it works.
cool Jim
+Rich Parker good morning
Just get a coal stove with an over fire.
Buying it like that is $600 per ton, that's pretty expensive. I don't know where you're at but you can buy coal where I'm at for $30-$85 per ton depending on the quality. And you're going to want to use lump coal for what you're wanting to do because that small stuff will burn up way to fast where you are wanting it to burn all night!
+Clyde Acor thank you for the info. I can get it for $225 a ton up here. Buying it a bag at a time is a lot more expensive. I'm just trying it out to see how it does.
TheTradesmanChannel 2017 ya I kinda figured that's what you were doing. I guess it pays to be surrounded by coal mines. ;-)
I thought about coal whenI lived in Minnesota but found out the sides of my stove weren’t thick enough done be careful I have heard coal can burn through lite steel easily.
+Ronald Pietrowski I'm putting an extra layer of brick around the grate. My stove is brick lined.
Just a heads up, coal fires can burn hotter than wood and your chimney may not be rated for coal...
+John R good morning. My chimney is rated for it, I had to look it up but I'm good to go...I hope.
With all the sawdust you make why not make a sawdust heater? They are reported to have a very long burn time.
+Sean Not-telling I'm actually building a large sawdust burner for the shop, I started it last winter in between barn work.
There's not a damn thing wrong with your welding Jim. I see much worse daily sadly from people paid to do it. Also, for what it's worth, I can' run mig for crap. It seems like it's easy, but really getting in there with adequate penetration is very difficult. Mig only looks pretty most of the time and welds aren't jack unless you're a true master at it or running some nice fluxcore or dualshield that actually gets in there.
Frankly, there's a reason why it's not used much at all on critical welds, i.e. pressure vessels, pipe, etc...
+Rk Stewart hey there. It is easy, but I like the stick much better.
I just hate having such little control over the weld, especially when it comes to heat input and deposition
+Rk Stewart I agree, with a stick or rig the guy holding the rod controls it all.
show off and make a shaker grate
I don't think momma is gonna like the soot.
+yacrafter momma is just tired of waking up to cold house. From what I've seen the anthracite coal burns without making soot.
I just remember as a kid my gramma cleaning the house all the time because the clinker made such a mess.
+yacrafter i believe it.
5:07. We call that technique the “Bruce Jenner”
Ha!
No you don't you just need a bed of wood coals
I have figured that out, I didn't know much about burning coal when I made this one.
No time to watch now warmed up an pipes showed water running every were. But yes a wood stove can. As a class A welder I have done many
+Arnold Romppai hey Arnold
hay is for horses, sure I get a mouth full every day, still don't care for it... back to watch now, still no water in tapes but pugged off for now, until I can get between the floor
5 yrs old video with zero follow up.I’d say it didn’t work
There was a followup and it did not work worth a damn.
@@TheTradesmanChannel ….sorry I looked but never found it! Sorry it never worked out! You put a lot into that grate,
I ended up putting in a proper coal stove, we love it.
@@TheTradesmanChannel …awesome ! I’m looking at an Ashley coal right now.
You will live it, no heat like it.