The Best Washer Dryer EVER? The Ultimate GE 2-in-1-washer Dryer Combo Test & Review
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- Опубліковано 27 лип 2024
- I bought a $2,500 washer-dryer combo and tore it down so you didn't have to!
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I purchased a GE Profile Ultrafast 2-in-1-washer Dryer Combo to test and review for my viewers. In this video, we run 2 different loads of clothes through it to test GE's claims on wash times. Also, I take the machine down to the key components to discuss why this machine works, and what devils are in the details of what may be the fastest-selling machine in history.
Timeline of Video:
00:00 - Introduction
01:29 - Wash & Dry Test
03:46 - Results of Wash & Dry Test
06:18 - Teardown of the GE 2-in-1 Washer Dryer Combo
06:57 - The Benefits of the GE Heat Pump Design
09:02 - The Drawbacks of the GE Heat Pump Design
10:32 - One RADICALLY GREAT thing about this Unit
12:39 - Re-Assembly and Test #2
13:34 - GE SmartHQ Features and Failures
15:09 - 18lb Test Results & Drum Temperature
16:20 - Opinion: Is This Unit Worth It?
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If you have any other questions, I'd be happy to answer them in the comments, or future videos. Please understand that there's probably a few things missing from this video due to time constraints, rather than any intention, so I'll be following up with a lot more content in the future!
Really appreciate you answering my question I loved the tank and fix my own washing machines for quite some time I got two in the garage. This machine I think I'm going to purchase because this is going to work perfect for my basement. Then I can terminate the vent hose and complete rig job that I did so it ends up going into my garage which is not good. Say play the guitar as I can't have that moisture going into a water bucket or anything like it was set up prior to me moving in here so I'm going to purchase that for sure I don't know the cost of it but I think you left the link in the bottom I'm going to take a look at it thank you
@@bopitbull3957 just note that this thing unboxed is 302lbs, so make sure you have a REALLY GOOD dolly to put it in a basement. This is, by far, the heaviest thing I've ever seen in my life. Feels like a pure brick of concrete really lol
This is an affiliate link with a lot of trackers! Be careful people!
Nice unit, but there are enough time sinks in life w/o adding more stuff that can be reduced/avoided by buying a different set.
@@bensappliancesandjunk I have a commercial dolly that can handle it no problem.
I'm a little surprised how much you got stuck on the filter. Like you pointed out, if you don't clean that in a regular dryer, you're going to have an issue, so that doesn't make this unit any different to a regular dryer. On my regular dryer, I clean the lint filter after every load. I'd treat this unit the same way.
Im with you! having a lint screen thats not cleaned every load is a huge pet peeve for me
I clean mine every 6 months or so.
I thought you were supposed to check and clean the lint trap after every load? At my last home my roommate owned the washer/dryer and his Samsung had a reminder to check the lint trap between every load. My Maytag dryer has a bit larger lint trap. I check it, but it really only needs cleaning every other load that goes through it.
@@OWENROTHLERNERlol wtf
One of the huge benefits of this unit is that it's ventless. I mean you can put this sucker just about anywhere. I'm surprised that wasn't mentioned. If it was i missed it .
Wow I'm a HVAC mechanic who specializes in heatpumps and uses them to heat my home and never would have thought of this ever though it makes perfect sense, genius!
I purchased this washer and to put it simply, its amazing. It's saves space, its quiet, and it gets clothes clean. The convenience of just putting a load in first thing in the morning or before you go to bed and have it completely finished when you come back or wake up CANNOT be overstated. Typically, im a top load washer guy because I like lots of water to wash towels, blankets, and really dirty stuff. I cannot say that this washer cleans as effectively as a top loader when washing the same volume of clothes so I just do smaller loads with the "more water" and "extra rinse" settings on and things come out fresh and clean. There is also a "more dry" setting as well, to help things get very dry. This washer is like having a laundry service, it allows me to do other things while my clothes go from dirty to completely clean and dry. Also, no venting or 240v outlet needed... what?!! Since time is our most valuable resource... this washer/dryer is well worth the money.
Did you have to vent the dryer outside as you do aregular dyer. We use a gas dryer, which is very efficient.
The video showed a water drain line NOT a dryer vent hose.
I’m going to purchase this bad boy
@@raymari7658 No, it has no vent. Kinda neat!
There is no dryer vent. Clothes are effectively rotated and dehumidifed.@@raymari7658
You know you’ve reached middle age when you find yourself watching UA-cam videos about washing machines.
I'm 23 please don't say that.
hahshahahah im 17
@@ninjaknight-jn9ky dang im 21
I got this machine for ~$2,000 during a 4th of July deal. We have very limited space and were planning on getting a Miele or Bosch stacking set until we saw this come out. The bigger capacity was really the big selling point for us vs the Miele and Bosch's. We've had it running for about a month now and no complaints. We are diligent with filter cleaning but we do have 2 dogs and 2 cats so hopefully it keeps running well for us. I'm a very handy person so if it comes down to it, I should be able to take it apart and thoroughly clean it every few years if that's what's needed. Our normal sized loads are typically 2 hours or so to wash and dry, but we have had a load or two that stayed at the "1 minute" mark for 30 minutes or so before it finally finished. We really like that it's one-and-done and that you can't forget to move a load from the washer to the dryer now. Regardless of how long it takes to dry, we still save a ton of time ultimately because it starts drying as soon as the washing is done.
I think you dodged a bullet on the Miele. I had a set that lasted 22 years and replaced with a new set of Mieles. My wife absolutely hates the new Miele, the heat pump dryer sucks. I had limited room at my cabin just enough for the miele but the wife hated the Miele so much we didn't want another one. This fit the area perfect and totally love it. It dries so much better then the Miele. Probably won't last as long but half the price of the Miele.
Thanks for your comment about GE washer. I’m redoing my kitchen and now will definitely make a place for this washer/dryer to avoid going in the basement.
@@pauljones8796 I have the newer Miele washer and dryer the TX1680WP is the dryer model.
I upgraded from two LG front loaders. Dryer was electric. I got them for a real bargain from PC Richards at the scratch and dent warehouse with minor blemishes.
I think they are great but like your Mrs. my GF hates them. Only because of the capacity. She was used to washing and drying larger loads. Anyway they worked well in my opinion. She wanted me to put the old ones back in. When the GE one and done came out not to long after I bought the Mieles I bought it.
Took a little while for her to get used to it but I believe she likes it now.
@@raybod1775 just note (which wasn't in the video) that the height is non-conventional. This is a good bit taller than most washers at 48"
You have 2 dogs and 2 cats in very limited space? 😅😅😅 Hair City on that coil. Lolol good luck.
Our Admiral front load combo from the late 50's worked perfectly and tirelessly for years of 2-4 loads a day. In those days we washed EVERYTHING after 1 use and ironed EVERYTHING including tea towels and diapers.
I just wanted to Thank You for this channel! I've worked for Lowe's for just over a year and your channel has been instrumental in my learning about appliances! I have repeatedly been thanked for being so knowledgeable by customers and that is thanks to you and your channel!
I have done additional research but your channel still remains my best source. I suggest your channel to every customer to check out before believing me if they have any doubts at all! Thank you, thank you, thank you!❤
Awww that's great! I'm so glad to help you out!
This is an amazing review video... A FULL TEARDOWN?! Brother you are working hard to make high quality videos for us! Thank you very much.
You've helped me help many people with cheap or free appliances. Another thanks to the people that put appliances on the roadside with a note of whether it works and or what the symptoms are.
Thank you for the review! For a more realistic stain test, let the stains dry for at least 24 hours before washing; it's easy to remove still moist stains.
An interior designer friend claimed that mustard was the hardest common stain to remove from fabric. So perhaps you'll add a dollop of mustard to your ketchup next time? =)
Next video is an inside-the-drum test with clothes that have had stains for 24hrs btw
Moist stains! Yes!
That’s a problem....it’s going to dry thevstains in!
Thanks for this, it's pretty neat. I work for GE Appliances in one of their logistics sections, so it's cool seeing someone test and break down a machine that customers could call in about.
LMAO ya you going to get a lot of calls on this one. "appliance tech"
Outstanding review, Ben! My sister's dryer unit conked out recently, and she and I were in the market to split the cost on replacing it and the matching washer (both are nearly 15 years old). Browsing through an RV supplies site, I saw a blurb about "combo washer/dryer" units and was curious about how they worked. Thanks a million for the breakdown and explanation on the technology. Keep up your awesome work!
I’ve been anxiously waiting for this video! Your content has given me so much valuable information that I’ve been able to pass along to customers and help them be better informed and prepared for their purchase.
This video has helped tremendously, thank you so much!!! Very excited to show this to my coworkers!
I've seen a few other reviews of this machine, but to be honest, yours was the one I was waiting for. I've been watching your channel for a while now and I trust and value your knowledge, opinions, and deep dive, detailed analysis of all the appliances. I also appreciate your jokes, references and fun, sweet compliments of your wife.
A couple of things I don't believe you mentioned are that 1) it uses a standard electric plug, not the giant 220 dryers usually do, and 2) no venting.
Overall, this seems like a great machine and a cool innovation, if overpriced (but then, it is still new to the market and might come down over time, hopefully). If I ever have that kind of money to burn, this one is on my short list. Thanks for your review!👏
Overpriced? I seen it on sale for $2k. That is about the same for a washer and dryer. Some power companies give you a rebate as well.
@@Ice_Solid I've heard you can get a tax credit/rebate for $600-700 on the machine over.
@@Ice_Solid Definitely a good point! A friend of mine recently bought one and was eligible for a rebate from her electric company. You're right, it really isn't much different in cost than buying a nice washer and dryer separately. Only gripe was that, at the time she bought hers, there was a sales tax holiday on appliances, but with a price cap. Separate washer and dryer would've each fallen below the cap, but the combo unit was over. Obviously a very specific case though.
@mrs.antihero This was a surprise to me too! My friend recently bought one for a space that did not have a vent provision, so that was a big plus! Unfortunately there was only a 220v outlet there, and we weren't prepared for that.
I find it weird that it is just recently the 2-in-1 washer dryer seem to be hitting the US market. It has been in use in some countries 15-20 years ago, so I think of it as an old innovation.
Even as a child I always wondered why washer/dryer combos weren't more prevalent. It seems like such an obvious thing to want. It does both jobs in half the space. Yet it's pretty rare to see them. Even when trying to find some online I only see around 4, this ge being one of them.
Washer/Drying combos are very common in Europe and have been for decades. When I used to travel to Europe 20-25 years ago, no one that I can recall had both a separate washer and drying. They were all combo units in order to save space. I did have a friend who also had a separate dryer, but their washer was a combo unit. I don't know why they're not more popular here. They're much more efficient with both using less electricity and usually less water. But the tech isn't new, and GE is decades behind other brings from Samsung, LG and others.
@@BradM73Japan and Korea too
In the US leaving the dampness is seen as a problem, it's why vents are so common. They are also known to have maintenance problems. So you have a high maintenance high cost machine with worse quality drying.
@@MINIMAN10000 I've not known that to be the case in my experience. And because everyone (or at least most people) has dual washer/dryer combos in the EU, they're not uncommon and less expensive to repair. But generally they weren't very problematic. It wasn't unusual for a load of laundry to take 3 hours there, but they are more power efficient and still get the job done. It's a common misconception in the United States and Canada that combo units are some new technology. They're not.
As a maintenance person all I can say is the more complicated the appliances the less time they're going to last.
As of right now I got 2 combos to fix/ replace?? Never seen them before and I don't like them. I think the early appliances was the best ones... they lasted 30+ years.... none of this new stuff last that long at all
Fantastic review! Thanks for going so in-depth to explain how it works. We don’t need a new machine (yet!), but when we do, I’d like to think I’ll come back and use the links you’ve provided. Again, thanks for showing all the details. Love it!
I know in my area, the city requires peak electrical load calculations before you can get a permit to install a high wattage EV charger in your garage. This unit would allow you to reduce that peak by 5000 watts from a standard electric dryer, which might make a significant difference in the size of EV charger allowed. A typical 200A service for a home would be able to supply 38400 watts for a continuous load (80% of 200A at 240V), so saving 5000 real watts is actually about 13% of the total load capacity.
Oh wow, that is a FANTASTIC point. Thank you for mentioning it!
What draconian communist hellhole is that?
While this MAY not be the best solution, you should know that it is sometimes possible to call up the city power company and request an upgraded power line. 400A is quite possible, and when I tried it, it was free - HOWEVER, you'll need a new panel (and subpanel and breakers) which means you pay out significant cash, but the end result is a massive increase in capacity. I'd make an argument it is money well spent since it would probably improve both the usability and sale price of the house.
@@LFTRnow Good news there are tax rebates now as part of the IRA act to replace your panel. So it's a lot cheaper at the moment.
“Oh, I got rid of my dryer. It’s not good for the environment, you know? I air dry now” me after hearing about this permit bs
I saw this on sale at Costco and was tempted, but my current washer and dryer work just fine. I'm glad to see it getting good reviews, though, and hopefully it or a successor model will still exist when I'm next on the market. In addition to the energy and space savings and the ability to throw clothes in whenever and take them out fully dry, without needing to remember to swap machines before mold starts growing, using something like this could also save you energy with your HVAC. A normal dryer exhausts a lot of moist air, which needs to be made up in some way. The makeup air ends up leaking in through every crack in your home's envelope. So essentially you are exhausting conditioned air and letting in unconditioned air, increasing your heating load in the winter and your cooling load in the summer. If you've put effort in to air-sealing your home, a heat pump dryer of some sort can take your improvements to the next level.
I'm not sure how it could be exhausting a lot of damp warm air entirely unless we're talking about just radiant heat from the surface of the machine because if you have your vent properly connected and it properly cleaned out there's not going to be much in the way of heat transference. Or you know just make sure you keep the laundry room door shut lol
@@AdmiralStoicRum You missed his point. A vented dryer works by pulling air from inside your house (conditioned air, that's been heated or cooled by your HVAC to comfortable living temperature) and running it through the heating element, then through the dryer drum to absorb moisture, then out the vent to the outside of your house. This causes the air pressure inside your house to drop as air is vented outside. As the air pressure inside your house drops below the air pressure outside your house, air from outside pushes its way inside through bathroom & kitchen vents, and gaps and cracks in walls and around windows and doors in order to equalize the pressure between outside and inside. This air that comes into your house from outside is almost certainly either too hot or too cold depending on the season, which increases the load on, and energy use of, your HVAC system.
I think the biggest drawback is that you cannot wash more clothes until the first load is done drying. So over the course of 5 hours you'll only have two loads done. Normally I'm putting a 4th load in the washer at around the 5 hour mark.
@@AdmiralStoicRumA normal dryer sucks a LOT of are from wherever it is and blows it out of the side of the house. This thing only drains the WATER out of the recirculating air and dumps it down the same drain that the washer uses.
Thanks for the review Ben, I purchased this machine on sale at Costco, i think around $1900 as a July 4th promo. So far I’m happy with it, it seems like a well engineered machine
Super appreciate the teardown man! Amazing time and effort!
I completely agree with bopitybull. I must be an old timer. I dry all of my clothes, which is typically three loads. Afterwords, I take the filter out and clean it. The dryer has lasted 30 years and operated flawlessly. The only reason I’m buying new is I’m moving and need electric vs gas. I think you hit the nail on the head when you said all people want to do is put things in and turn the switch without ever having to do anything more. I can’t remember any time that my father would replace some thing unless he tried to fix it first. Back in the day you could do that but not anymore.
You definitely gave me peace of mind. We hope to age in place and negotiating the stairs to reach washer/dryer in the basement has become a bit dicey. We bought, this machine as a compromise to solve aging mobility issues. We figured it cost less than a full remodel of a room in our home. We were able to place it in our climate controlled all season room. Re: filter, I faithfully am used to cleaning it after each load anyway.
I just bought one of these units I do commercial HVAC for a living and when I came across this unit the heat pump triggered my curiosity. I couldn’t be happier with it’s performance and loved seeing the tear down in this video now I don’t have to tear mine apart to see how it ticks 🤣
Thank you for a very informative and interesting test, tear down, and review. Keep up the great work!
Ben, I love your channel so much. I've been looking EVERYWHERE online trying to find a repair guide or teardown of this unit and I couldn't find anything! I desperately wanted to know more about the internals of the machine. Otherwise, I have no idea what I'm buying, If the parts are quality, or how repairable it is. This is the first video I found that actually opens up the unit. I absolutely love your channel. Thank you so much.
Yep it's why I did it. I'll be tearing it down almost to nothing next week and document what isn't in this video.
been waiting for a real appliance repair man to cover this unit! All the other videos seemed so sponsored that I couldn't trust what they had to say
Hope you enjoyed the review. I have no clue who is or isn't sponsored on this unit. I had probably 3 dozen people SPECIFICALLY ask me to review this one. And that's an incredible amount for any single, speciifc unit that isn't may a general brand one like "Review a Speed Queen!". In hindsight, I wish I could have been the first ever to review it, and I'd have been open, honestly, to not paying the $2,500 to review it and get it gifted, but that's not what happened but certainly everyone will be better off for it I think.
I hope I tried to be fair and even-handed on this with what I could do in a single video, though. There's a lot to like on this, but also a few things to dislike, and I think that people will gloss over the problems, but also not admit to why those problems could exist and how to solve them, too.
I have never seen such a thorough review - GREAT JOB!!!
Just bought one of these for our new home due to the fact the laundry room is much MUCH smaller than our old one so we need something compact this review as well as reading comments on different videos has let me learn a lot about this machine and I am excited for it to come so I can finally do my laundry myself again 😅
Ben. I thank you so much for spending your time to bring this info to us. It's very very helpful. Thank You
My pleasure!
I would like to have seen those stains put on cotton clothing, and leave them on to dry for a week, then I would be impressed. You used a lot of synthetic clothing, and wash fairly fast without letting the stains absorb into the clothing.
Omg he did a great job...you can't do every stain
@@daveklein2826I mean... If we're trying to test the machine in real world conditions, instantly washing with "stains" on synthetic fibers is like playing t ball for washing machines.
Awesome review. I hopefully won't need another washer/ dryer for a while. But its nice to see more competition in the combo space. This unit seems very compelling if it lasts a decent amount of time.
I am an HVAC instructor, and I have had one of these for close to a year now. Still working well and biggest issue is drying and we have found if you use the settings bulky for bedding, jeans for jeans it works better. We clean filter every load, but there was a large build up on left side wall where it come out of fan I did get it out with a refrigerator condenser brush
I already bought one when I outfitted my new cabin with all appliances. Home Depot had a Fourth of July sale in that machine was $2,000 and I got another 250 off for the bulk purchase. I will not get it until the middle of September but I am looking forward to it especially now that you've given it a good review.
It also has secondary energy savings in that you're not taking your warm or cold air out of your house and exhausting it outside.
Re, warm air - yes, this is 100% a great point that I didn't get to keep in the original script. Since its not drawing ambient air in to heat up and throw away, you get extra savings. Its hard to quantify how much of a savings that is, though.
@@bensappliancesandjunkhey, my contractor just called me about putting in cabinets next to the washer and I need to know is that door reversible? Can't find any information on GE's website.
@@Leonardokitedoor is not reversible. The inside glass is angled to improve air flow; GE said they made it not reversible to optimize drying. Since you don’t have to move laundry from machine to machine the door swing is probably fine in most spaces. One of the designers said all this in a video interview on another appliance channel, but seemed to realize they need to take door swing into consideration on future models.
@@RedErin thank you for that response sir 👍😉
@Leonardokite absolutely not reversible as per the 95 page GE manual for the washer
Thanks for the review, I appreciate the detail in regards to energy and water consumption, and especially construction and repairability!
I helped a close friend pick out and install this model about three weeks ago. She bought an older house and due to space constraints was limited to either this or a stacked combo unit. Her objection to the stacked unit was capacity, she wanted to be able to wash a queen sized comforter. I nudged her towards this, the tech and efficiency was appealing to me. Seeing this video prompted me to reach out and ask her opinion on it, now that she's been living with it for a few weeks.
She says she's mostly happy with it, more pros than cons. She likes the way the clothes come out, says they feel nicer than coming out of a traditional dryer, never misshapen, shrunken, or wrinkled. I can attest to that too, I was with her when she ran the first load after install. The energy savings will likely be a big positive in the long run too, we're in Florida and she's had some very high electric bills this summer running AC in a house that's not well sealed (it's almost 100 years old.)
Cons are that the barrel occasionally smells musty, though it is in an unconditioned space and the high ambient humidity may be a factor. I suggested that she may try leaving the door open when it's not in use to help prevent that. She does say that the lint trap needs more frequent cleaning than a traditional dryer, as noted in your review, but the machine gives a reminder before starting a cycle and it's not really an issue. Minor pet peeve is that the controls are very sensitive, and she finds her self accidentally pressing buttons while it's running just by leaning against it trying to reach things stored above. I'm going to dig into the manual and see if there's a button lock function.
Biggest concern before purchase was losing time by only having one unit, as in you can't start a second load in the wash while the first load is drying, as you would with separate machines. In practice she says this has not really been as big of a hindrance as expected, being able to start a load and go to bed or leave the house without having to wait around and move it to the dryer makes up for it in her use case. She also thinks that the larger load capacity in this machine is a pretty fair trade off compared to having stacked units with smaller capacity. Overall she is happy with the purchase.
Great to hear, thanks for sharing! And yes, there is a control lock feature!
Thank you for making these videos and keeping us informed about our purchases😊
Traditionally, (European) washer driers had the limitation that they could roughly dry half the maximum load of the wash, so if the maximum wash load was say 9kg, the recommended dryer load would be 4.5kg. Whilst this may sound inconvenient, it is generally better to dry similar fabrics together - cottons, polycottons etc. I was amazed that on your second load the washer managed so well when the drum was so full - impressive.
The second test was more or less a max-capacity torture test to vet what really happens when its loaded down. It was rather impressive.
Are current washer (which just broke) and dryer are two different brands. Our washer was 5.2 cubic feet and I don’t know what the dryer is but it is larger. We could not stuff the washer full because even with the dryer being larger it would still put too much strain on it when that many items in the dryer. Also the vent pipe for our dryer goes all the way across our house so it puts even more strain on it, we don’t think it is going to last much longer but it has lasted longer than 2 washers at this point. If it does fail we might get a ventless dryer.
Yep, we solved that! Dry what you wash, pound for pound, or as Europe would say, kg for kg! 🗺
@@geappliancesDidn't expect an appliance brand to be lurking in the comments, haha.
When's it coming to Canada?
@@ulogy They finally released an appliance that is getting good reviews. Of course they're going to hang around and bask in it. lol
First reviewer to talk about load size. Terrific. I am amazed that a full wash load was able to dry as well as it did although looking really wrinkled. Looks like a half load is the way to go like other combo units. Comparison to other combo units like the LG, Siemens and Whirlpool might be nice.
Makes me wonder how dryer sheets work with this.
I just came across this washer looking for parts for my ge space saver. It says they come out a little damp but dry really fast after fluffing. So folding them and not letting them sit in the basket would get rid of the wrinkled look.
This is fantastic... I live in apartment where we get the smell of toxic dryer sheets into our apt.. I was looking into how to better seal off the backflow... But this solves the problem completely by allowing me to block off the vent entirely! I've noted this video for when I purchase and will check back to see if there are newer units you've reviewed. *edit* I got mine! It's 300 lbs!!! thank god for installation service.
Just got mine delivered yesterday. I washed today and I really like the feel and style of this beast
This is brilliant stuff. Giving Consumer Reports a run for their money with stuff like this. Plus you let your sense of humour come through. :)
10:20 pretty interesting to see LG compressor in a GE machine! Also I too am a fan of GE being repair friendly, as I had a GE microwave break just after warranty. Even though it was entirely the fault of GE (faulty connection), it was great of them to include a schematic that helped with the troubleshooting.
Thanks for the review, this unit is fantastic, especially for energy efficient new construction without gas. Definitely going to get one myself in the future, unless something similar comes out that is not made in China 😀
I think all monopolies try to help each other fleece out of consumers. Fyi no matter how rival it may seem. iPhone still uses Samsung displays😅
We had one of these at a rental and had no plans to do laundry until we saw it. When we initially purchased our washer dryer set we debated if we should get a combo but most reviews online said they were too under powered. This one performed admirably. Seriously considering selling our washer and dryer to get this.
Very well done video and personally thank you for a very well thought out edit. Much appreciated.
Great, great review. I've definitely been intrigued with this GE Profile One and Done, specifically because this would simplify our kids doing their own laundry. Obviously the price is a big issue. If a premium washer costs $1000, add a ~$300 dehumidifier, and air plumbing, it's not hard to see economies of scale (and hopefully competition) bringing the pricing down. Right now they are trying to take advantage of first to market with an efficient & practical large capacity combo unit, taking the pricing of a premium washer/dryer set at ~$2K and then adding whatever premium they can up to their 'MSRP' of $2900. It sold for $2K around the 4th of July, and I think I'll wait until Labor Day to see if we see a return to that more enticing pricing.
The best points of this are:
1. not having to switch laundry between two machines and the space savings of a combo unit
2. 115V electricity(no special wiring needed)/low wattage consumption/ventless efficiency which improves overall home efficiency.
3. large practical capacity and reasonable cycle times
The drawbacks:
1. New to market with unfamiliar complexities/longevity concerns
2. Pricing is getting out of hand
3. loss of pipelining efficiency where you can cycle full loads through a washer and dryer set in ~ an hour per load.
The front end loaders have been out for years and the prices are still pretty steep.
It's Labor Day, and I see this machine going around $2,500 ;(
Yeah? Easy to just throw the components together? Make one then
I have a combo front loader(Midea) with a heat pump dryer. It does not dry towels fully, and I have read online that this is usual for a smaller unit. In 10 years of use I have only had to replace the drain pump. Other than being slow(4 hours for wash + dry of 5kg clothes) my only complaint is that it has always been noisey. However, it is far more gentle at drying than my old skool Simpson dryer from the 80's. That thing might never die but it turns everything to cardboard. I only ever use it for towels.
Very impressed with thoroughness of review lol. Was not expecting the taking apart of machine
I'm very excited to see future models of these combo units by the time I need a new one.
UA-cam randomly suggested your video. One of the best washer dryer reviews I’ve ever seen! We have basically the washer only part of this one from GE. Based on our standard dryer use, I would guess this is saving 1 to maybe 2 kWh per wash and dry cycle. Not a lot by itself, it would add up over the years. The peak wattage used is certainly less as the standard dryer hits 6,500 watts on low heat mode. I understand you are getting two units for the price of one, but would really want to see some kind of sale on this to buy it. Our GE washer is only a few years old so not exactly in the market anytime soon….or at least I hope not.
These have already been on sale for as low as $2,000... Down from their initial MSRP of $2,899. I also have been told what wholesale on these machines is currently. There's a hefty margin on them through retailers, so the real-world price on this has a LOT of wiggle room. GE dealers are making heaps of cash right now which is rare, because appliances have notoriously bad markups.
@@bensappliancesandjunk Do you think $2000 is a fair price for this machine? I was able to get a local appliance store to quote me $1999, which is near the lowest I’ve seen, with the exception of Costco offering it for $1700 for a couple days.
If you are watching this, your age is showing.
Facts 😂😂😂 can't lie as I've gotten older things like this excite me 😂😂😂
28. Was excited for this video too. Then I’m like Jesus last year I wanted a pressure washer, I must be getting older
Haha bloody hell!! 🤦🏼♂️ definitely old .. dammit!!
😂 I can take that as a compliment. I can finally afford a washer dryer at this price.
Yet here you are
It always makes me smile to hear Ben compliment his wife. It is such a breath of fresh air to ear. I’m just so sick of people making jokes about how they hate their spouse. Like if you don’t like them, why did you merry them?
We literally just saw this at Lowe’s today and came across your video. I truly appreciate your FULL evaluation of it…can bet this will be our new wash/dryer. 😂
Glad it was helpful!
Thanks for the info. I just bought a new washer and dryer this year, and settled on an LG pair, but this combo unit caught my eye. The reason I didnt go for it was the price, and I feel like being the first model, its bound to have bugs and issues that will be worked out in later models. So when my new ones kick the bucket (hopefully not for a decade or so) il definitely consider an all in one unit (it'll probably be the standard by then anyway).
Worth noting is these heat pump combo units have been standard in Europe for at least a decade. I wouldn't worry too much about it being new and unproven tech.
I am on the verge of buying one of these. I heard about it recently and you are a trusted source of info. I am very much looking forward to future videos on this from you. I'm in Canada so I can't seem to find them in stock anywhere yet. But we are usually behind when it comes to new things coming to market.
This is the fastest selling appliance in history. Encompass is doing a training class on this at their GA facility. They asked me to crate this exact machine up and ship it to them, because GE THEMSELVES couldn't find a machine to let them train on, its THAT hard to find right now in the US.
If you wait for a national holiday, you’ll likely get it for $600-$800 off USD. I’ve seen them around the 2k range when on sale.
Exciting! We can't wait! The UltraFast isn't available in Canada yet, but we're looking at you, 2024!
@@geappliances can I get notified when it is on the market here by an email list or something?
Just buy a speed queen and thank me later this is going to be a nightmare for ge
I really appreciate the breakdown especially taking it apart. I might be using your link to buy this today
I will be honest.I would wait for my Samsung video to come out.You may want to take a look at that one as well before you pull the trigger on the ge
I love that you opened it. Thank you.
Replaced my broken GE 13-year-old washer, and got rid of my GE dryer same age. Bought this new all-in-one. Works great for single person like myself. I like how it dries and doesn't make my clothes burnt stiff like my old manual-dial dryer. Usually done within 2hrs, sometimes 2hr30min but that is fine with me. A big load of towels, or jeans, or a queen mattress will take the most time to dry. Otherwise the quick wash comes in handy too. I'm not going back to two machines. GE has a winner here with this machine.
I bought a 'scratch and dent' Maytag commercial washing machine for a little over $600...including tax, delivery and taking my old machine away. It's simple to use and has several load sizes and settings.
I don't use a dryer, since I have an outdoor rotary dryer and also a large indoor clothes rack in the laundry room.
Ben gave the Maytag commercial a good review...and it's been in stores for a while, so people have bought them, used them and are happy with them.
If I was considering buying this new GE unit, I'd want to wait until they've been bought and used a while, since it's a pretty expensive investment...more than a separate washing machine and dryer would cost.
Thanks for the great effort on this unit. One thing though, normally when I do the wash I make sure that fabrics match so that towels and such are NEVER mixed with normal clothing.
Fantastic review thanks for the smallest details, tearing it down and explaining how it all works
A consideration: not having to move the clothes from washer to drier means easily washing clothes at night while you sleep. Who cares if it takes 2 to 4 hours if you just wake up to finished clothes? Doing this will save my household (that washes and dries every day) at least $270 a year alone on electricity. Probably saves more since some days are multi-load days. And I'm in Texas where rates are cheap.
THIS is a great point!!!
Great video. I would never put as much in as you did on your second test. My wife would KILL ME for abusing her washer.
We've had our Profile for about 3 months. So far, we love it.
Now 9 months still good?
Good video, I like your trustworthy in-depth thoroughness, thanks!
There is two things I do like about this washer one you can start it in the middle of the night and it’s ready when you wake up or you get home from work so the time factor not a problem. Also, this has a federal tax credit of 30%. Up to $600 so that brings down the cost of the machine.
I had an LG combo I bought in California and overall I loved it. Keeping in mind it did require a little more maintenance and care.... A majority of the time I just used the wash mode and let the clothes air dry outside on a line. I got the combo because hookups in apartments were limited.
That's another great use case for units like these. Apartments without proper hookups, or wanting to run it where there's no 240v receptacle. Honestly with copper and labor costs the price premium of one of these could easily be less than getting a new 240v receptacle installed, doubly so if it's a long distance to the breaker panel.
Thank you for posting this. Very helpful. We are having one delivered today.
Thanks for all your reviews!
[See my reply in Jan 13 2024 update post] Best video I've seen so far on this machine. I got one in August 2023 and love it. There are some problems - as you mentioned - the maintenance of the lint component is key. I have to clean the filter after EVERY wash - even after self-clean (I get the prompt). Sometimes there will be a few items that stick to the drum at the end of the cycle. I also clean the pump filter every week or two, but I still get notifications about changing the lint filter. My vacuum cleaner can't even get the filter compartment completely clean. All that aside, I am totally in love with this Groovy Combo.
Do you have to change filter??how long the filter last and how much is cost?Ty
@@nomankh6717 I recently got a message from the app that I needed to replace the foam filter and there was a link to purchase it at GE for around $12. Not bad except, when I clicked the link, the filter was out of stock and there was a message saying it's estimated to be available by Dec 2024!
@@theboonog Oh dec 24 still long time,do u recommend to purchase?because m in the market to buy still confuse 😬
@@nomankh6717Although this machine has fallen a bit short of what I was led to expect from two interviews I watched with the designer, I still love my Groovy Combo. I am beginning to get concerned that the unit I purchased may be defective. It doesn’t dry well and stopped drying completely last week. I unplugged/replugged it, and it dried the load when I re-washed it. I’ve been diligent about following the maintenance instructions so I can’t see I’ve failed in any way to cause this. At some point when I can find the time I’ll contact GE to have it checked out. But being able to skip that load move from washer to dryer more than makes up for the maintenance. It also does a stellar job at removing lint from clothes.
@@theboonog Thank you….is groovy combo lasted longer and low on maintenance?
If cost savings is a priority, put up a decent clothes line!! It's the best!
I have an lg 2 in 1. I'm a full time solo parent of an 11 year old. I love that machine so effing much it's unreal.
I run a tub clean cycle more often than I would with a regular washer machine, but other than that I don't do anything different. Mine has a slightly smaller capacity than I would prefer, doing large blankets isn't really an option. Nice to see a larger capacity 2 in 1 on the market :)
Oh! I also use super high spin cycle, low temp setting on the dryer for clothes, normal dry setting for towels and other stuff. A full load, including cool down time(which I consider to be part of the drying process), takes about 5-6 hours depending on the size and contents.
Good review, we just got one, due to venting issues where the laundry room is located and now have more room. I failed at folding the first load too. So far 2 loads, one with heavy items little over 2 hrs, a smaller load in about 1:30. Quiet machine too, has some noises but over all quiet
Great video as always, Ben! We just did a test of this new unit ourselves and we found it to be great! It surpassed our expectations in terms of performance.
I've had one since first introduced and have well over 100 loads so far. It uses some AI logic to learn your laundry habits such that now a normal cycle comfortably runs in under two hours, typically 1:50. I use a handheld vac to clean the filter after each use so it's quick and easy.
I think a dustbuster or cordless stick vac in the laundry room would make cleaning a breeze. And if you have a utility tub/sink in there, even better for the foam filter.
My son just bought one so we can give our opion soon. Great video.
Oh my god a review channel that tears down appliances. Instant subscription from me 👍
I bought this machine and it is awesome and dries just fine. I washed a king-size quilt and it washed and dried it perfectly and I did not have to take it out like my old dryer.
5 years on the heat pump unit. Cost to replace or repair is $$$$.
@@gilrose12345It's a dehumidifier. Everyone who's owned a dehumidifier will tell you that they last at least 40 years in a basement lol. This is not a "heat pump" like in HVAC where you have hundreds of feet of coper line that some apprentice used stay-brite 8 on that leaks inside walls lol.
@donovanlewis3053 I have tried nearly every hp dryer on the marker and they perform poorly overtime! Especially the 120 volt ones. HPD's need to be 240 volts - like in Europe.
@@dregenius Actually it is a heat pump dryer and its very complex. To replace that entire unit alone would cost you $1,500 with labor. Good luck doing that 6 years +
@donovanlewis3053 GE added a large fan to make up for the lack of power due to the 120 volt. My new Beko 4.5 cubic ft 240 volt hp dryer does a great job in just 40 minutes- all jeans and cotton towels!
Thanks, Ben. Here in UK (and continental Europe) heat-pump dryers seem much more common. It's surprising US hasn't bothered much with them given the money-saving (though elec is MUCH cheaper in US than Europe, where it's approaching 40 cents/Kwh here). I have an LG HP dryer and washer and have found them fine. My only concern about a combi is that it could overall be less reliable than sep units (if my dryer breaks I can still wash). Although, as you say, common fail points are electrical on modern washers, sooner or later the bearing goes on front-load washers, and at £2000 / $2500 I'd absolutely require a separatable drum to facilitate bearing replacement (the problem with modern FLs is sealed drums, preventing otherwise serviceable washers being repaired, thus the criminality of scrapping for the sake of a small, cheap part). I'd also like to see replaceable spiders at this price (assuming it could degrade, as notoriously happened with Samsung washers only a few years old).
For that cost I think I'd prefer to stack an LG washer and LG HP dryer, which at UK prices would be c £11-1200 / $14-1500 for both. But for people less geeky, who want seamless washing/drying, this looks good and your judgement is reassuring. I wonder what Consumer Reports' evaluation will be?
Best wishes, Marcus
wow, that's 4x more per kWh than a lot of places in the US.
@@bluearcherx Yes, it even more expensive in Germany. In UK it reduced a little recently to 30pence / 38 cents - so there's a great incentive here to save on drying costs.
Ours is 9 cents per kWh where I live in the US. Can't imagine paying that much for electricity.
So true.
Imagine having actual healthcare. Or infrastructure that isn't falling apart. You get what you pay for generally, and we are cheap as hell. We get paid cheap as hell, and we spend a lot on cheap garbage that will just end up in a landfill.
I just wanted to say thanks for a great review and great content. I already ordered one on a promotion in July but it hasn’t been delivered yet. Your review definitely reassured me about my purchase.
Oh dang, July order and still not in stock?
@@bensappliancesandjunk Costco had a really good deal going for them: $2k which included installation and haul away of old appliances. My guess is that they got so many orders they couldn’t fulfill them all and mine is on back order.
Ben, you are an inspiration. so cool to see you channel taking off, congratulations !
Thanks so much!
@@bensappliancesandjunk I Just purchased your “Washer Bomb” dig it, thank you for your awesome content
I have a washer/dryer combo made by Marathon Laundry. The main difference with it is the dryer is vented like a regular dryer instead of having a dehumidifier. Overall, it's a good machine. The reason I bought it was because I live in a 240 sq ft former lawnmower shed. So space, or lack there of, was key. It still takes longer than a normal dryer would, but it gets the job done. Plus you can easily program more drying time into your washing/drying recipe.
Did you get it at auction?
I hope it gives you good service, since it appears they are defunct and everything went to auction in August 2023.
@@blaydCA
That explains why they aren't answering emails. I'm not surprised to hear it though.
It works ok. But I honestly wouldn't buy it again if I had it to do all over.
The first machine they sent me looked like a prototype model. It looked very different from their advertised model. It had trouble getting heat from the heating element into the tub.
I complained about it and a little over a year later, they sent me their newest model.
It works much better, but it still doesn't dry as well as a regular dedicated dryer.
For those of us that like to start a second load in the washer while the first is in the dryer, an all in one unit would actually make laundry take longer. I guess you could always buy two of these 😂
Yeah the real genius would be a double machine that automatically loads the clothes into the second machine and starts it
Especially when one wash and dry cycle is 4.5 hours.
And then takes them out, folds them and puts them away 😂
That’s actually what I’m thinking- getting two.
Seems like it would be great for an RV with the standard 110 outlet. Great video, we saw one in Lowe's today, amazing how this stuff pops up in your feed.
Looks like I gotta watch more of your videos. Efficiency and having only 1 to do both sounds good to me.
My current washer & dryer are over 10 years old (washer probably close to 15), so I’ve been keeping my eyes out for replacements. This unit would be great for us as a senior couple with a small laundry room. I only do 2-3 medium loads per week, so even at $2500, the cost per load over the next 10-15 years would be minimal. Definitely keeping this one on my short list, & looking forward to your continued reviews on it! Thank you!
I've owned 2 of LG'S versions (moved n left in the home). LOVE them!
Clothes come out clean fresh and dry! Now if they would put them away lol😂
No filter to clean...just occasionally a basket to dump out.
Keep your old appliances. They will a lot longer than anything you will buy today...
@@megadan66 The biggest issue is the low water washers. But low water is not really a concern with a side load washer. For top load washers, the only one I know of that is any good is the ge 4.2 cu ft that has the water level knob. Most new top washers have no water select knob and want to tumble your clothes with barely any water in the drum with the level set by autosensing.
Plus with an all in one side load, you can put it on a stand that sets the door height at the level of your chest. No bending over to reach anything.
This washer dryer will not last more than 5-7 years.
@georgeoh5361 haha quite the pessimist. I'm going with 10.
Good job on your review. I just did the training class with GE yesterday and a teardown. It is an impressive machine, but I would disagree with you about a DIY capable heatpump module change out. It is a difficult repair and requires at least 2 people.
Required to replace refrigeration components in any other appliance:
- torch set
- refrigerant gauges
- bottle of refrigerant
- refrigerant recovery machine/recovery bottle
- vacuum gauge
- vacuum pump
- copper fittings
- solder
- copper tubing (various sizes)
- tubing cutters, various other hand tools
- soldering/brazing skills
- knowledge of recovery/recharging process
- *EPA certification*
Required to replace this module:
- hand tools
- a friend
- a case of beer
How the fk is THAT not "DIY"?
Excellent review! No one else goes as deep.
Lowes had a great special on this. I ordered one and I'm supposed to get it on Monday. Thanks.
This sounds like a great combo. I believe this runs on 120 volts so that's a big plus for energy usage!
HP dryers use at least 50% less energy than traditional ones and 'cos they dry at lower temp they're kinder to fabric, though they do take longer.
120 volts does not use less total electricity than a 240 volt appliance. Ohm's law...
@@PlumbNutz I guess I didn't make my point very clearly. Having a heat pump that runs on 120v allows the unit to run at a much higher efficiency and thus use less energy.
I plan to do exactly as you suggested. Buy one of these and keep the old pair for big loads and such. I am surprised by your loads. The thought of mixing all of those disparate items made by brain hurt! Guess I am old school. I do a load of towels, I never throw one towel in with a load of casuals.
It really has to do with the fact I'm an idiot and don't really do a lot of washing myself. That and I grabbed literally what I could at my shop for the first test, minus the clothes I bought for this & future tests.
Great review.
But many people might understand that because it is a heat pump and a 120-volt system. You do not need a vent or a 240-volt power supply. All you need is a standard AC outlet and plumbing for the washer. So if you have an old washer setup in your garage but not a dryer setup you can replace the old washer with this.
Excellent review and tear down. This 2-in-1 is on my list to buy soon and this helped. Also, there are people who don't clean the filter out every use? That blows my mind.
Thanks so much for going more in depth than any other reviewer! All dryers clog with lint somewhere. As we saw, the filter compartment needed to be cleaned. But how much lint is getting past the filter and can you get at it to clean it? How much does a new sealed system cost? I need to buy a new combo soon!
The UltraFast creates less lint than average dryers because it's easier on clothes! Plus, the unit will notify you on the control screen AND through phone notifications, once connected to the SmartHQ app. Easy peasy! 😝
@@geappliances Thanks for this response. It's great that the UltraFast creates less lint! But should some lint get past the filters, is there a way to access and clean the evaporator and/or condenser coils?
Not having a dryer vent is a huge plus. I'm one of the ones with a 650. I'm the guy that had an IC take the control board out which shorted the drain pump. Been working great since I repaired it. This looks like a good unit.
Great video! I did look at GE’s (quick) video about this machine and they do state that some of the clothes will feel a bit damp and all you’d need to do is shake it out a bit. Not sure if that really works, but that’s what they said. Other than that, I’m pretty interested in this being my new All-in-One machine, but I have to convince my husband first…or maybe I’ll just get it because that’s what I want😂…and he’ll have to deal with it. Side Note: the machine (from what GE states) will give you a warning about cleaning the filter, and it will NOT let you do any clothes until the filter has been cleaned.
Another note about efficiency. Yes, it uses vastly less electricity from start to finish.
It also doesn’t vent to the outside of your house like a normal dryer. A normal dryer blows a lot of air outside of your house which means an equal amount of air must be sucked in from the outside. Who cares? Well, it is likely that you used energy (gas, electricity, oil, propane, etc) to heat or cool that air in your house, just for it to be pumped out of your house and unconditioned air sucked into your house that you now have to pay to condition. Depending on the temperature of the outside air, this could lead to additional significant energy savings.
I can't imagine that this machine would work for a large family, but it might be nice as a second unit in the master suite, or as a primary machine in a vacation home or ADU.
Aka people who leave their clothes in the washer or dryer because they’re not responsible
I really love the idea, but I think I’m gonna stick with my speed queen set👌🏼🤷🏻♂️ now if speed queen makes a 2 in one I might be interested🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
This isn't a machine you'd want to replace 2 current machines for. But is absolutely head & shoulders better than anything else thats a single/combo unit I tink.
Thank you, this makes so much more sense to have all in one machine
I've got the GE GFW550 washer, and have been highly impressed with how dry clothes come out. Much dryer than any others, in my experience. Very high speed spin cycle, like 1500 RPM. That's part of the "trick" of the dryer combo, imo. I like it, except 2 things. Warranty "requires" GE specific hose set, which can not be sourced anywhere, second GE goes into great length to hide "Made in China".