Age of Sigmar Battle Report: Ironjaws vs Sylvaneth: Bloodtoofs vs Gnarlroot!!

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  • @naofumi1723
    @naofumi1723 11 місяців тому +34

    Spoiler Shield

  • @tmkpainting3734
    @tmkpainting3734 11 місяців тому +6

    Holy moly ! Just thought I’d take a look to see if there was any new vids and bam! Not only a new vid but Ironjawz! So pumped , looking forward to this battle! Thanks guys 😊🙏

  • @Kyokot1
    @Kyokot1 11 місяців тому +2

    Just fyi, you can't use spiteswarm hive in your opponent's hero phase. It reads, "At the end of a player's hero phase, if a Sylvaneth Wizard or Sylvaneth Hero in THAT player's army is within 9" you can use it. Which basically only comes up in the mirror match.

    • @Cptbaron
      @Cptbaron 10 місяців тому

      No you are incorrect… it’s “at the end of a players hero phase”
      They were using it correctly. 👍

    • @Jacoooify
      @Jacoooify 10 місяців тому

      ​@@Cptbaronno they weren't :)

  • @gregoiremichelet
    @gregoiremichelet 11 місяців тому +2

    Nice battle report !
    I am an Orruk player but starting a sylvaneth army right now so feels good to see them both on the field !
    A few questions:
    - Why not take Vesperal Gem if you have one important spell to cast per turn ?
    - How can you teleport the Kurnoth hunters behind the 6 pigs unit on turn 4: you can teleport to these wildwoods even if you didn't cast them from a spell ?

    • @BattleshockWargaming
      @BattleshockWargaming  11 місяців тому +2

      Vesperal Gem is good and i take it alot but i figure with the 3d6 cast and the extra primal dice i didnt need it, Given the choice between that and the greenwood gladius i am taking the sword as it makes durthu an actual hammer
      The Kurnoths teleported through the overgrown terrain feature that was in that back corner.

    • @gregoiremichelet
      @gregoiremichelet 11 місяців тому +1

      @@BattleshockWargaming makes sens !
      I need to get some experience on this and i am still struggling to choose which seasoning i need !
      Thanks for the feedback
      Otherwise, overgrown terrain feature need to be completely outside of enemy territory right ? Wasn't this one partially in the orruk territory ?

  • @Rakaizulu
    @Rakaizulu 11 місяців тому +6

    Really warming up to your batreps, especially with the great matchups!

    • @BattleshockWargaming
      @BattleshockWargaming  11 місяців тому +1

      Thank you for the comment and for the support of the channel!

  • @aarongensch3798
    @aarongensch3798 11 місяців тому +1

    Not sure if it makes a big difference but heroic willpower doesn’t allow you to dispel a endless spell on your opponents turn only your turn and it was the red stick one so he didn’t have the arcane tome

    • @BattleshockWargaming
      @BattleshockWargaming  10 місяців тому +1

      Good catch! Thanks for watching our channel, we appreciate you taking the time to comment 😉

  • @HistoritorJimaldus
    @HistoritorJimaldus 4 місяці тому +1

    Those Triple snake eyes for the treelord 😢😢😢

  • @Stryder467
    @Stryder467 11 місяців тому

    I normally don't cheer for a faction based on their player's fashion choices, but Mike, you can't take the sky from me. Sylvaneth for the win on this match. Jokes aside, I do love both of these factions here, and both are on the short list for my secondary faction collection, competing with Nurgle and Khorne as I paint my KO to completion.
    TWO nine inch charges back-to-back by the Sylvaneth. That is crazy. No rerolls. Looking at a 30% chance on both of them. Getting both at the same time? Probably a 20% probability. Even with that stroke of good fortune, however, it came down to the Round 5 Priority Roll. Good game, gentlemen. I'll rendezvous with you at the next battlefield.

    • @BattleshockWargaming
      @BattleshockWargaming  11 місяців тому

      Glad you like that firefly reference your the only person to have commented on it. All the factions on your shortlist are great to collect, KO were perhaps the most challenging paint job i have recently done so if you are looking for a painting project go for that. Sylvaneth are my personal favorite and i highly recommend them
      That double 9 inch charge was very unlikely to happen but if you are on the backfoot you might as well go for it.

  • @christinesmith7566
    @christinesmith7566 11 місяців тому +2

    Great battle report guys!! I'm happy everytime I see dem trees on the table, they are so gorgeous!

    • @BattleshockWargaming
      @BattleshockWargaming  11 місяців тому

      Thank you Christine, Michael was happy to get his beloved trees back on the table!

  • @kyloroux3988
    @kyloroux3988 11 місяців тому +2

    Are you allowed to tap the Spiteswarm Hive on the Ironjawz turn? the current wording is terribly written, but it seems to me you can only use it on your own respective turn, and the rules is just written strangely to deal with Sylvaneth vs Sylvaneth situations...it would be amazing if I am wrong because I would LOVE to use the rend reduction ability off-turn for added defense;0

    • @BattleshockWargaming
      @BattleshockWargaming  11 місяців тому +1

      Agreed, the wording is pretty terrible lol. The way we look at the warscroll, it has offensive and defensive traits to it: one with the intention of being used in your turn to deliver a unit into combat, and one to help reduce damage in the opponent's turn. We have played it this way since the battle tome release, but unfortunately it is open to interpretation. Always best to check with your opponent :)

    • @kyloroux3988
      @kyloroux3988 11 місяців тому

      ⁠@@BattleshockWargaming Thank You!! Much appreciated: currently kicking iff our first battle with the new GHB, IJ vs Sylvaneth…Durthu already failed his first 6” charge: He is clenching his buttcheecks as Mike would say😂

    • @RoomSevenFifteen
      @RoomSevenFifteen 11 місяців тому +3

      As written, you cannot do it. Likely not rules-as-intended but it is rules-as-written. Contacted rules team multiple times via email to request an FAQ but no one cares enough lol. It allows your opponent to use YOURS in a mirror match though.

    • @Brushedbym
      @Brushedbym 11 місяців тому +1

      Is written pretty bad but you can’t use it in the opponent hero phase

    • @Cptbaron
      @Cptbaron 10 місяців тому

      @@Brushedbymit is written “at the end of a players hero phase” you absolutely can use it…

  • @salsathe4th
    @salsathe4th 11 місяців тому

    Great battle report! Those swords def should have killed more pigs but that was a clutch save roll.
    With Khorne and Seraphon being two of the top armies now. I am moving more away from the ancient plus warsong spiteswarm combo into a celestant prime or gotrek as a 3rd hammer/pinning piece. Also death still being very good, them having a ward for the warsong bomb hurts. The branchwych always has the same mortal would bomb spell and you will most likely be running her up the board to cast blizzard anyways.
    I also have been trying the burgeoning to help against other armies mortals output which is a big issue with sylvaneth.
    Without the warsong, you need to either keep the branchwych alive or go heartwood/oakenbrow and do overshadow.
    I have found getting spells off very hard this season so I dont get to summon many trees nor get the chance to cast through them. So I am trying out Radiant spirit over spellsinger to protect your castle from spell bombs a little.

    • @BattleshockWargaming
      @BattleshockWargaming  11 місяців тому

      Radiant Spirit seems like a good choice in this season. Seems like there is a build of kuroth hunters with 6 up wards all with a 4+ spell ignore just walking to the mid board ready to rumble. That might be something i have to try

    • @envaya9838
      @envaya9838 10 місяців тому

      I see Celestant Prime pop up a lot in lists atm, how does he help against Khorne/Seraphon? Do you still take Durthu or does CP replace him?

  • @gammafighter
    @gammafighter 11 місяців тому

    That was a pretty good showing for Sylvaneth considering how poorly they rolled and how well the Ironjawz rolled.

    • @BattleshockWargaming
      @BattleshockWargaming  11 місяців тому +1

      Thank you, At least in the game it didnt feel like the dice were one sided. There were more than a few times that the tree lords had a tough time punching the damage through

  • @ProjectDelta8
    @ProjectDelta8 8 місяців тому

    I am a big fan of your Sylvaneth paint scheme. It looks like a much brighter version of mine

    • @BattleshockWargaming
      @BattleshockWargaming  8 місяців тому +1

      Thank you my friend i am really glad you enjoy it. I was going for something really bright and punchy

  • @Solitayre_sedai
    @Solitayre_sedai 11 місяців тому +1

    That was such an entertaining battle report. The roll off at the end was tense!

  • @phacelessgod
    @phacelessgod 11 місяців тому +1

    I run a similar sylvaneth list with a few tweaks. Well played sir

    • @BattleshockWargaming
      @BattleshockWargaming  11 місяців тому +1

      Thank you! I think this list would be a tad better with a dryca or lady of vines but i was pleased with the acoytes battalion to help get those big spells off!

    • @phacelessgod
      @phacelessgod 11 місяців тому

      @BattleshockWargaming I actually take drycha instead of Durthu and still scythes over swords for the consistency. I've been taking the command entourage to give all my casters the extra spell and the rest in 1 drop. Warsong Gets vesperal gem and takes treesong and either the horde clear spell or the spell that brings models back. I'm still playing around with the last 1-200 points since the battlemage is getting nerfed. I'm trying the knight zepheros for extra mobility and guarantee surround and destroy.

  • @redluke8119
    @redluke8119 8 місяців тому

    Good stuff! Any chance of a Kharadron vs Tzeentch battle?

  • @raylendt
    @raylendt 11 місяців тому +1

    Absolutely EPIC. Great job guys.

    • @BattleshockWargaming
      @BattleshockWargaming  11 місяців тому +1

      Thanks very much :) We had a blast playing this one. Next week's video is super good as well. Meatfist vs Fyreslayers 😉

  • @charliebonta4932
    @charliebonta4932 11 місяців тому +2

    Let’s go trees!!

    • @BattleshockWargaming
      @BattleshockWargaming  11 місяців тому +1

      Got to love the Sylvaneth, Michael was excited to bring them out again this report!

  • @scott813
    @scott813 11 місяців тому

    Can't wait to see these Ironjawz led by a BIG PIG!

    • @BattleshockWargaming
      @BattleshockWargaming  11 місяців тому +1

      Its going to be a right proper Luau when the big pig shows up!

  • @sareth90
    @sareth90 9 місяців тому

    I think Michael had to tp the tree-revenants on the point by turn 2, he would have scored 2 more points in the end.

    • @BattleshockWargaming
      @BattleshockWargaming  9 місяців тому

      This definitely would have helped with scoring the primary :) thanks for watching!

  • @Cptbaron
    @Cptbaron 10 місяців тому

    Also FYI you CAN use Spiteswarm hive in your opponents turn.

  • @nullfaktor590
    @nullfaktor590 9 місяців тому

    Nice battle report, thanks :)
    I have a question about the visibility of spiteswarm hive at around 45:00: In core rules 1.2 it states, endless spells are no models for rules purposes. The wyldwood terrain rules (17.1.4) state, that visibility between two “models” is blocked. So you should be able to see the endless spell, right?

    • @BattleshockWargaming
      @BattleshockWargaming  9 місяців тому +1

      good question, This was addressed in a main rule book FAQ.
      17.1.4 WYLDWOOD TERRAIN
      Q: Do wyldwood terrain features and Awakened Wyldwood faction
      terrain features block line of sight to endless spells or invocations in
      the same manner as they would block visibility between models?
      A: Yes

    • @nullfaktor590
      @nullfaktor590 9 місяців тому

      @@BattleshockWargaming ah thanks :)

  • @GarouGames
    @GarouGames 11 місяців тому

    Those black matte dice look amazing.

  • @voice9893
    @voice9893 11 місяців тому

    Thats a question that has been comming Up. 26:36 can you Just remove the trees because they are Not impassible? Ive been playing that the Stump doesnt allow Units to fit, but this mostly Blocks alarielle which is stupid. You clearly Played them as you can move throught them and stand on top of them (Not the roots only). What we're the Tournament Rules for awakend wyldwood that you went to?

    • @BattleshockWargaming
      @BattleshockWargaming  11 місяців тому

      Each Tournament can be a bit different, in most cases infranty can not walk through a tree they have to walk around, Problem with the wyldwoods is its really difficult for michael to fit his great big hands in there without basing everything all to heck. It makes it easier on use to remove the trees so that we can actually move the models,
      Now for the Maw Crusher it has fly so it effectively ignores the vertical distance moving up and over a tree and can basically land right on top of it. This situation could be resolved by marking the position of the model and then moving the maw crusher off to one side which would be the "correct tournamewnt way" but we want you to see the model and the combat so sometimes we remove the trees

    • @voice9893
      @voice9893 11 місяців тому

      @@BattleshockWargaming thank you for the honest answer.
      Does that mean If you fly Like alarielle you could Land on the wyldwood If your Base will be in Balance? Or you mean simply flying over the Stump?

  • @Thorthon20
    @Thorthon20 11 місяців тому

    The Orks go down to the woods today…

  • @Dino-xz9dd
    @Dino-xz9dd 11 місяців тому

    Are you guys planning on trying out the new IJ stuff? I'm really curious to see what you think about them

  • @manugrebaut3624
    @manugrebaut3624 9 місяців тому

    My favorite battle report for the moment ❤❤❤❤ amazing

    • @BattleshockWargaming
      @BattleshockWargaming  9 місяців тому

      This was a very fun one! Michael was not used to playing an army that could reach out and touch his Sylvaneth. Hope you enjoyed :)

  • @eliassanchez2805
    @eliassanchez2805 11 місяців тому

    Awesome game! Hoping to see you guys pick up some of the new Ironjawz!

  • @shendu1337
    @shendu1337 11 місяців тому

    dont forget that durthu has 2x 3 Damage root attacks aswel besides his sword. makes it far less painfull when you roll miss:p

    • @BattleshockWargaming
      @BattleshockWargaming  11 місяців тому +1

      Oh man i hope i didnt forget that because i for sure know Durthu has those massive
      impaling talons!

  • @familytributestudios
    @familytributestudios 11 місяців тому

    Really good batreps. Looking forward to Big Pig soon.

  • @AgresteNebuloso
    @AgresteNebuloso 10 місяців тому

    Why did the waaaagh attack first?
    Should not be Sylvaneth turn?

    • @BattleshockWargaming
      @BattleshockWargaming  10 місяців тому +1

      Ironjaws have a special rule called smashing and bashing. If they destroy a unit in the combat phase, they get to immediately activate another unit

  • @Cptbaron
    @Cptbaron 10 місяців тому

    Amazing game! Loving your bat reps!

    • @BattleshockWargaming
      @BattleshockWargaming  10 місяців тому

      Thank you so much!! We appreciate your viewership. Thanks for taking time to comment and hope to see you in our Discord and in the comments for future videos :)

  • @hans8102
    @hans8102 11 місяців тому

    Again great battle. Well played too!

    • @BattleshockWargaming
      @BattleshockWargaming  11 місяців тому

      Thank you for the kind comment and for supporting our channel!

  • @mayzkuro
    @mayzkuro 10 місяців тому

    why are there so few terrain pieces in aos? i just started out 40k this year and wanna get into aos as well. just wondering

    • @BattleshockWargaming
      @BattleshockWargaming  10 місяців тому

      The terrain is more sparse because AOS is true line of sight, so 95% of the time you can still see your target with missile weapons. Also, the game is much more heavy on melee. Almost every army also has faction terrain, which brings it up to 10 pieces, some of which are obnoxiously large (cough...Seraphon..Cough...Bonereapers) We also never exceed the 8 piece limit for match play, because it makes it more difficult for our viewers to see what is going on during heads up and action shots. We always include 2 LOS blocking, 2 Impassable and/or cover/garrison for the 4 remaining pieces.

  • @AgresteNebuloso
    @AgresteNebuloso 10 місяців тому

    What is primal dice?
    And what did you do at 23:05?

    • @BattleshockWargaming
      @BattleshockWargaming  10 місяців тому +1

      Primal dice are dice you use to modify cast, unbind and dispell rolls. It is part of generals handbook 2023 matched play rules. Michael's cast had an ability to unbing on 3d6 once per battle at the time stamp you provided. He then used primal dice to modify it.

  • @ayframe4202
    @ayframe4202 10 місяців тому

    bro those dice were unkind to the Sylvaneth...holy crap

    • @BattleshockWargaming
      @BattleshockWargaming  10 місяців тому +1

      What you meant to say was "damn that Ironjaws player is sooo good at warhammer lol

    • @ayframe4202
      @ayframe4202 10 місяців тому

      @@BattleshockWargaming @BattleshockWargaming No offense met, IJ still had to play well but it felt like Sylvaneth were hamstrung by all those 1s

  • @TheDeathbrlnger
    @TheDeathbrlnger 9 місяців тому

    Which color did u guys use for tree guys white look gorgeous

    • @BattleshockWargaming
      @BattleshockWargaming  9 місяців тому

      its a dry brush of various greys and then ends with corax white drybrush and chunky white scars highlights it was actually quite easy.

  • @mikek2662
    @mikek2662 11 місяців тому

    great battle report !

  • @pablo2583
    @pablo2583 11 місяців тому

    Good game but I'm shocked that you still use Spiteswarm Hive in an opponent's turn when you can't :)

    • @BattleshockWargaming
      @BattleshockWargaming  10 місяців тому

      This was brought to our attention and we agree :) I would have loved to kill that tree lord on the charge with mawcrusha, and the rend reduction made a difference there. 😀

    • @Cptbaron
      @Cptbaron 10 місяців тому

      @@BattleshockWargamingI just checked the rules - you can use spiteswarm hive in your opponents hero phase… it’s at the end of “a players hero phase”

  • @TheDeathbrlnger
    @TheDeathbrlnger 9 місяців тому

    Guys how do u manage to fit everyone in two battalions (sylvanet) i thought we cant put durthu and ancient to the regiment

    • @BattleshockWargaming
      @BattleshockWargaming  9 місяців тому +1

      Not everyone is in those two battalions, Durthu is outside of a battalion. this list is 4 drops total.

    • @TheDeathbrlnger
      @TheDeathbrlnger 9 місяців тому

      @@BattleshockWargaming ty sir

  • @m.kessler2836
    @m.kessler2836 11 місяців тому

    Go Orruks Go !!! Waaaaaaagh !!!

  • @voice9893
    @voice9893 11 місяців тому

    Voting for sylvaneth because its my Army 🙂. Lets Hope the trees Fightlast and Lots of 6s on the swords piteswarms Not Rolling 1 and

  • @HuckleBeary55
    @HuckleBeary55 9 місяців тому

    You guys are the reason I can't find any pigs to buy......

  • @SquishyFishies
    @SquishyFishies 11 місяців тому

    ironjawz without +1 to wound/hit from big wag hh just feels bad haha sooo many 2's

    • @BattleshockWargaming
      @BattleshockWargaming  10 місяців тому

      I want to try big waaagh, the cumulative bonuses look very interesting. Question: what will you use to fill out your battleline now that msu for ard Boyz is 10 models? I'm interested to see what people do

    • @SquishyFishies
      @SquishyFishies 10 місяців тому

      @@BattleshockWargaming hi I'm currently running gobsprak (super easy battle tactic and just amazing threat for little wizards, wurgog, 2x chanters, big hand of gork ironjawz wizard and usually megaboss on foot but considering the small big pig. Battleline is 2x groups of 10 with choppas big group of 10 brutes then 6x lil pigs.

    • @SquishyFishies
      @SquishyFishies 10 місяців тому

      @@BattleshockWargaming the new ardboys are just amazing honestly could go 3x 10 or even 2x choppas 10 and a big reinforced of spears.

    • @SquishyFishies
      @SquishyFishies 10 місяців тому

      I'd recommend a ardboys big boss if you going heavy into ardboys the rally is super strong feels like khorne bloodwarriors or chaos warriors now just slightly more hitty with the 3x attacks and +1 damage from the warchanter. Even considering reinforced blob of those new naked Orks with the D3 damage or 3 mw on 6's

  • @Kerldogg13
    @Kerldogg13 11 місяців тому

    WAAAGH!!

    • @Kerldogg13
      @Kerldogg13 11 місяців тому

      Michael withe the triple double ones on the ancient is CRAZY

    • @Kerldogg13
      @Kerldogg13 11 місяців тому

      SUPER fun game, guys! Thank you!

    • @BattleshockWargaming
      @BattleshockWargaming  11 місяців тому +1

      Thank YOU Commander Kerley!

  • @Nikita88885
    @Nikita88885 11 місяців тому

    лучшие ребята,захожу сразу лайк ставлю.топ контент братья ✊

    • @BattleshockWargaming
      @BattleshockWargaming  11 місяців тому +1

      Спасибо за ваш комментарий и поддержку

  • @MrMagual82
    @MrMagual82 11 місяців тому +1

    Why are AoS miniatures so damned ugly? Fantasy models were billion times better looking.

    • @olafolafsson2755
      @olafolafsson2755 11 місяців тому +2

      Finally a moment to bring back the "ok boomer" thing ;)

    • @MrMagual82
      @MrMagual82 11 місяців тому +1

      @@olafolafsson2755 Isn’t it past your bedtime? The jerk store called. They’re all out of you.

    • @BattleshockWargaming
      @BattleshockWargaming  11 місяців тому +1

      I sadly never got a chance to play warhammer fantasy but they were some of the first models that I saw when i was a boy and always wanted. Bretonians are a faction that I thought the models looked amazing at the time. Im very curious to see what GW does with the Old World