Soma Labs Flux - Highly Expressive New Instrument - Sonic LAB Presentation

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  • Опубліковано 6 чер 2024
  • Soma Laboratory's unconventional design is a major factor in why their instruments are so unique. We take a look at the latest instrument Flux - which takes a lot of inspiration from the no touch approach of the original Theremin. However with the use of small magnets in each had there are five control axis per hand and up to 16 controllable parameters.
    The instrument is loosely based on the Terra synthesis concept and features 37 digital algorithms which are treated like individual instruments with their own timbral characteristics.
    The right hand controls the pitch, dynamic, octave and tilt (for timbral control) and the left hand controls more of the timbral character with a considerable amount of tonal range possible.
    We talked with Vlad Kreimer who gave us an over view of how Flux works.
    The first batch of production units will be going out later this year and the price they are aiming for is in the region of 1000 Euros + tax
    More information at
    somasynths.com/flux/
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    00: 00:00 start
    00:00:28 Playing example
    00:01:31 Overview
    00:03:20 synth engine
    00:07:30 Pitch and dynamics
    00:12:54 polyphony
    00:18:28 external control
    00:19:45 bass
    00:20:40 UI
    00:24:52 the magnets
    00:25:38 percussive mode
    00:26:40 other sizes?
    00:28:09 price
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  • @ClifBratcher
    @ClifBratcher 25 днів тому +36

    Props to the spider at 13:36

  • @hb3393
    @hb3393 25 днів тому +24

    The world is a better place with people like Vlad in it. Such a huge fan of his and Soma's work

    • @TheNimasan
      @TheNimasan 21 день тому

      Agree to 100%

    • @TheNimasan
      @TheNimasan 21 день тому

      Love this man. His instruments play a major role in my life❤

  • @experimentsinanalog
    @experimentsinanalog 20 днів тому +3

    Vlad is a genius. He's done so much to push the envelope of expressive electronic instruments. This looks absolutely amazing to play.

  • @brokengadget7519
    @brokengadget7519 25 днів тому +7

    Im glad that things like this exist and there are people like Vlad who have the know how to bring their artistic vision to life.

  • @attichatchsound-bobkowal5328
    @attichatchsound-bobkowal5328 25 днів тому +9

    Kind of disappointed this isn't housed in a log 😊. Kidding aside, props to Vlad for forging his own uncompromised creative path! I do agree with those concerned about the magnets. Seems solutions would be pretty simple.

    • @HIFI1965
      @HIFI1965 24 дні тому +2

      Log version is an extra 2 bills.

  • @HAntonRiehl
    @HAntonRiehl 24 дні тому +2

    Looking so beautiful, and sounding great! Can't wait to get one of these into my studio to start learning it!

  • @DoctorRevers
    @DoctorRevers 25 днів тому +2

    Wow man. Clap clap clap.
    That flip gesture brilliant. The whole thing looks amazing.

  • @bitegoatie
    @bitegoatie 23 дні тому

    I love seeing new instruments - any new products, in fact - from Soma. The creativity and depth of thinking here about instruments, performance, and art never fails to inspire me.

  • @matthewtunnicliffe201
    @matthewtunnicliffe201 25 днів тому +5

    Vlad is going to bankrupt me. I'm still saving up for the Terra.

    • @Ben_______x
      @Ben_______x 23 дні тому +2

      Terra is incredible. It fast making all my others look so limited. I get beautiful expressive tones from it. It’s the first synth to make me want to ditch my vintage synths.

    • @matthewtunnicliffe201
      @matthewtunnicliffe201 23 дні тому

      @@Ben_______x Cheers Ben. I look forward to getting one in the not too distant future.

  • @AntonMochalin
    @AntonMochalin 22 дні тому +1

    I think they should also make quantization to a scale tones instead of semitones for the rest of us so too speak - or did I miss him mentioning this feature?

  • @ingolf7411
    @ingolf7411 25 днів тому +4

    Owning a Lyra-8 and an Enner ... crazy, weird but wonderful instruments 👍

  • @eamfos
    @eamfos 25 днів тому +1

    He is a magician...but he just uses music instruments !
    Instruments build to last forever.
    Thank you Vlad...thank you for giving me those opportunities.
    You managed to change my view on music.
    I own two RoATS and one Lyra - 8 ...and i really want to play with them everyday.

  • @AngryPhotoGuy
    @AngryPhotoGuy 25 днів тому +3

    I love this guy, and I wish I had the cash to be able to justify purchasing one of his instruments. This and the Pulsar 23 both seem very immediately playable, fun, interesting, and rewarding instruments.

    • @AngryPhotoGuy
      @AngryPhotoGuy 25 днів тому

      Also, that spider dropping down for a visit is pretty funny.

  • @davejarett908
    @davejarett908 19 днів тому

    The musical boundaries this instrument can singlehandedly annihilate is flat out awe inspiring. I cannot wait to get my hands on one of these.

  • @deaftone
    @deaftone 24 дні тому +1

    Amazing instrument! wow

  • @MrVoonix
    @MrVoonix 25 днів тому +9

    It looks amazing. But I personally much prefer to be able to touch the surface and be able to control the parameters with touch pressure, with x-, y-and z-axis movement, etc. Why? It gives a perceptible feedback about what you are doing like with any other instrument except the theremin. A theremin is often perceived as one of the hardest instruments to learn, because you don't have a haptic feedback.
    The advantage of the theremin and this is of course that it looks beatiful to play the sound by moving your hands in the air.

    • @bojangprodoktschns5428
      @bojangprodoktschns5428 25 днів тому +1

      But here you actually can have contact with the surface.
      When playing lap steel for instance the hand holding the bar is "split" with the non grabby part anchoring the hand for more controlled vibrato (and muting the strings behind the bar). I guess a similar way of playing would be possible here.
      Part of the fun with these MPE devices is that you can invent your own gestures of expression.

    • @MrVoonix
      @MrVoonix 25 днів тому +1

      As another example how import haptics are: It took Apple a long time to figure out how one should control the user interface of Vision Pro. All the methods they tried were missing some haptics (and they didn’t want to use controllers as these are impractical in many usecases). Many other VR glasses were also using some hand gestures that are hard to learn, give no feedback and aren't recognized that well. That’s why they ended up with selecting elements by looking at them and the user tapping its fingers. By tapping your own finger you have the important haptic feedback. - Even the pinching/zooming of pictures/websites works like that by tapping the fingers on both your hands and moving them apart.
      Many describe the interface so easy to learn that they managed it in like 5 minutes and that it felt as intuitive as using your smartphone.

    • @jamaharon
      @jamaharon 21 день тому

      More important is to actually try things before having such a substantial opinion about them, but it's an empty suggestion to whoever prefers to be right.

    • @MrVoonix
      @MrVoonix 21 день тому

      @@jamaharon You are absolutely right. Im talking about my opinion of having haptics vs. playing something in the air (which I tried with theremine).

  • @spridgejuice
    @spridgejuice 25 днів тому +1

    This looks and sounds wonderful. I imagine I'd really be interested in editability though - that said I've made just the one patch for Osmose so I may well overestimate my appetite for complicated patch editing these days

  • @madcapmodular8147
    @madcapmodular8147 25 днів тому +2

    Amazing

  • @andyjones760
    @andyjones760 24 дні тому +3

    Vlad must get one of these to Gregoire Blanc, who for me is the best theremin player in the world. Pretty handy on the Continuum as well.

  • @Michael-xr5yx
    @Michael-xr5yx 23 дні тому

    So glad there will be a breakout box for external control. Amazingly elegant control solution for a whole bunch of continuous parameters at once. Looks awesome. Didn't catch if he said when they expect to have it ready for sale?

  • @Farold_Haltermeyer
    @Farold_Haltermeyer 21 день тому

    So much fun!

  • @petdoe8938
    @petdoe8938 24 дні тому

    Stunning

  • @troyjlandry
    @troyjlandry 24 дні тому

    This is a gorgeous sound machine

  • @banksideleopards2791
    @banksideleopards2791 24 дні тому +1

    Bravo!

  • @thomasyon4332
    @thomasyon4332 23 дні тому

    Have you ever seen an interview between a genius and a hero?!. A big hope to heard Soma in Classical and Jazz. Also Happy 800th, I ll tell you one day what you Nick mean to me, or us, it was a long way, enjoyable, and an ouverture to the world.

  • @Daphoid
    @Daphoid 24 дні тому

    I love people that want to try new things; not just at the high high end of boutique pricing; but at a middle ground of "alright it's not entry level, but if you save up for a while you could reasonably get one perhaps" - all the while just loving with that do. This is stuff built by people who love sound and creation. Not the bottom line and quotas and such.
    I'm sure there'll be a lot of stuff added to my text file of wishlist things, some I may never get - but on the list this goes! I just bought a Pulsar 23 on sale recently so Soma is definitely a brand of interest to me.

  • @stephenBlacker
    @stephenBlacker 21 день тому

    Love this thing.

  • @aqueous5099
    @aqueous5099 24 дні тому +19

    1000 euros is just insanely affordable for such cutting edge technology. Even if it isn’t quite that cheap in the final production run, it’s so generous of Vlad to even aim for that price point. He really is setting the standard way above the mainstream. Vlad has already become a legend. I think he might be the greatest modern synth engineer. And depending on what instruments he produces going forward, he could really surpass all the Greats. I know this is a big claim. But he could create the greatest synth of all time. I’m so excited to see where he goes from here on out. This journey is just so inspiring.

    • @kimbopslayer562
      @kimbopslayer562 24 дні тому +1

      I disagree, it's a piece of wood and some metal pieces/sensors, and a raspberry pi equivalent processor. Cool, but I could buy a real obx clone for less.

    • @aqueous5099
      @aqueous5099 24 дні тому +4

      @@kimbopslayer562 this instrument clearly isn’t for you. Because all your criticisms are hollow, aesthetic, and pedantically technical. The interface, expression, and most importantly sound is what a musician considers. For pure sound design, of course this isn’t the kitchen sink of unlimited possibilities. But it’s quite ignorant to obsess over a hardware synths computational power. They are not PCs. They’re programs. They don’t need excessive power, they’re efficient, designed to do exactly what is intended and nothing more. If you don’t like the sound or interface, totally fair. But many of us are impressed with this very unique and enthralling style of performance and expression.

    • @kimbopslayer562
      @kimbopslayer562 24 дні тому

      @@aqueous5099 keep drinking your own kool-aid

    • @Ben_______x
      @Ben_______x 23 дні тому +1

      I completely agree. I have pulsar Lyra and terra and they are all great. Terra in particular is one of the best synths I’ve ever bought / played. Vlad and his team are amazing.

    • @MrThecarrott
      @MrThecarrott 23 дні тому

      Vlad is already in history and we are so lucky

  • @Waldemar_la_Tendresse
    @Waldemar_la_Tendresse 19 днів тому

    In terms of inventiveness and design, Vlad Kreimer has once again proven with this instrument that he is in the top league. I don't think anyone would want to play a simple theremin now. I also find his philosophy and statement about the display very interesting. The disadvantage is, of course, that you need a computer for editing, but in principle he's right: an instrument shouldn't need a display.

  • @cresshead
    @cresshead 25 днів тому +1

    TY has one on order of course...

  • @TRaddcliff
    @TRaddcliff 16 днів тому

    Nice cameo by the spider on the black drop sheet. 😬
    I could not NOT look at it. RIGHT BY HIS HEAD.

  • @aquaticborealis4877
    @aquaticborealis4877 22 дні тому

    This would be a godsend to people with arthritis

  • @mraymond77
    @mraymond77 23 дні тому

    Can’t wait to play the Jurassic park theme on this in the style of the classic recorder rendition.

  • @valdir7426
    @valdir7426 24 дні тому

    looks promising. I have a DIY ribbon controller that I like but I fear this would end up tiring to have to hold your hands in the air with precise movements

  • @_robespierre
    @_robespierre 22 дні тому

    this must be midi2 out, otherwise how to capture the range of expression? incredible

  • @mikegeary8056
    @mikegeary8056 18 днів тому

    DOPE

  • @NathanielPrinceCoulter
    @NathanielPrinceCoulter 25 днів тому

    I need some sort of pushback, that’s why weighted keys are preferred. Dynamic haptic feedback may scratch that itch. I guess it’s all in the settings as the gestures could in theory provide that feedback. I think I would need to try it in a creative context to make any kind of meaningful critique.

  • @kosmikmusa
    @kosmikmusa 23 дні тому

    Amazing work.
    For the price this is really good... and midi and cv out this is....
    I don´t know what to say.
    I know what I need to buy now.

  • @danselmix
    @danselmix 24 дні тому

    25:53, like when you hit the bar on the Ondes Martenot
    in fact this instruments looks like a cross between that and a Theremin

  • @MayzMatthiasYzebaert
    @MayzMatthiasYzebaert 24 дні тому +2

    Beautiful & so innovative & €1000 ?! Even as a non-performer I am tempted.
    This thing will sell! Soma = Amazing.

  • @cresshead
    @cresshead 25 днів тому +1

    Q. spare magnets? .. i can see these getting lost very quickly.

  • @nagchumpalot
    @nagchumpalot 24 дні тому +2

    Very cool.. But to me it just sounds like drunk Elephants.. 😂 I like that Vlad is doing his own thing though great for the experimental and sound track people.

  • @MikkelGrumBovin
    @MikkelGrumBovin 22 дні тому +1

    This dude is not ....from around....here.... 💫😉

  • @EricMorello
    @EricMorello 24 дні тому

    Like that a spider decides to drop down and join the party at 4:10.

  • @eliasramirez9599
    @eliasramirez9599 6 днів тому

    Johnny Greenwood enters the chat

  • @grandmasterjo1
    @grandmasterjo1 24 дні тому +1

    €1000. I’m surprised and so was Nick 🤪.
    I thgt it would be inthe €2.5 K category
    This guy is too much of a genius and a gentleman.
    Playing it would be a challenge though

  • @jonbirchartist
    @jonbirchartist 17 днів тому +1

    No promises I know, but the kind of price area he's aiming at is quite amazing. Vlad is a bonafide genius and appears not to be a greedy man. This is so impressive.

  • @jasoneboles
    @jasoneboles 24 дні тому

    My jaw dropped a bit when he said 1000 Euro.

  • @danselmix
    @danselmix 24 дні тому

    great instrument!
    I can see Hans Zimmer buying serial #0001

  • @JDSoundsets
    @JDSoundsets 24 дні тому +2

    When I heard their target price my eyes nearly popped out........ in a good way for a change haha ;wow;. Can't wait to get one ugghh :)

  • @bojangprodoktschns5428
    @bojangprodoktschns5428 25 днів тому +1

    Like it or not, it definitely takes some balls to play this.

  • @jumpstar9000
    @jumpstar9000 24 дні тому +1

    It's a nice piece of art to have in a high end home. More practically it's much better to use 3D cameras and vision processing similar to Kinect. I did some experiments a couple of years ago to prove the concept works. That was using a Luxonis OAK-D module. Sure, it would need quite a bit of work to turn into a solid product, but it is cetainly doable. That way you dont need any magnets and every finger and orientation can take part in controlling CCs. Don't get me wrong. I do like it and it's great to see people working on these kinds of human interface devices.

    • @GizzyDillespee
      @GizzyDillespee 24 дні тому +1

      Haken already makes the Continuum with independent CCs per finger, but using Hall effect sensors instead of visual tracking. It's not 100% perfect - for example, if 2 fingers come within about a semitone of each other, they combine into 1, as far as the sensors are concerned. So, a visual tracking system could have some playability advantages over these other types of sensors. FSR arrays are another technology people use for this purpose (for example, in the Embodme Erae Touch). There have also been IR and sonar sensors used for such a purpose. I think the technology for polyphonic optical sensors is just getting there. Resolution, without errors, is important to the player. Good luck to any developers who are considering this route.

    • @jumpstar9000
      @jumpstar9000 24 дні тому

      @GizzyDillespee Great comment! Right. I've seen examples with Hall sensors and a wearable glove before. I don't know if that is what you are talking about. In any case, thank you for the overview of the things you are aware of. With the vision system, it may be that you need multiple cameras. Although having said that, I don't know if you have seen some of the recent experiments using machine learning models that are able to extract 3D information from regular cameras. They are exceptionally good. I'm sure skeletons would be no problem. Ultimately I think we will need a pretty high framerate. Maybe 100Hz could work. That was another problem with my experiments. It was good enough for CC controls but it wouldn't be good enough for playing a piano for example. I'm fairly convinced that a model that trained specifically for reconstitution of the end effectors (fingertips) could get quite speedy on relatively low end hardware. Well anyway, exciting stuff that the future holds. I am very much looking forward to seeing it all as well.

  • @worblyhead996
    @worblyhead996 19 днів тому

    This and the Eagan Matrix and Bob's your uncle

  • @LordoftheBadgers
    @LordoftheBadgers 25 днів тому +1

    The magnets are black. And small. And I am a clumsy idiot.
    Please can we have a loop or something to go round my fingers? Seriously Vlad!

  • @nathanbell6962
    @nathanbell6962 25 днів тому

    Vlad the impaler!

  • @positronalpha
    @positronalpha 19 днів тому

    I will not buy this, because I'm not an instrumentalist and it'd be a complete waste under my inept hands, but I'm very happy that it exists.

  • @mechanicom
    @mechanicom 24 дні тому +3

    The demo sounded painful.

  • @MikhailMedvedev
    @MikhailMedvedev 25 днів тому

    very arachnophobic video))

  • @GroomLakeAll-stars
    @GroomLakeAll-stars 24 дні тому

    You have to applaud the innovative interfaces Vlad creates…but I have one major problem with all his products…the SOUND! Thin, brassy, odd sounding…most products have the same kind of whiny vibe. Tried a load of them. They’re not for me.

  • @unspecialist
    @unspecialist 24 дні тому +2

    there is a big difference when you listen to this video without looking at all the flare and sorry, love his stuff but this one has more cool factor than musicality or even ambient range. pass

  • @CamberGreber
    @CamberGreber 25 днів тому +1

    No haptic feedback = Gimmick!

  • @jumpingman8160
    @jumpingman8160 25 днів тому +5

    Sounds... bad.
    Also those magnets are perfect for a child or pet to accidentaly choke on.

    • @MrVoonix
      @MrVoonix 25 днів тому +5

      Sound is subjective. And a guitar plectrum can also be choke on. And many parts of other instruments.

    • @jumpstar9000
      @jumpstar9000 24 дні тому +3

      ​@MrVoonix I remember this one time at Bandcamp

    • @paulatreides0777
      @paulatreides0777 24 дні тому

      All the better reason never to have children.

  • @vexdata2445
    @vexdata2445 24 дні тому +1

    this is a russian product! enough to support russian business! shame!

    • @jameshodson3450
      @jameshodson3450 24 дні тому

      imbecile, what is your Russiaphobia actually based on? Mainstream media is absolutely full of shit, do yourself a favour and investigate what's really going on it the world, it's never been easier to actually decipher facts from fiction.

    • @asynchronicity
      @asynchronicity 24 дні тому

      @@jameshodson3450Russophobia is a Kremlin created propaganda term, gtfo🤦‍♂️

    • @designhappens8157
      @designhappens8157 24 дні тому +1

      sonicstate department... lol!

    • @1963pyros
      @1963pyros 24 дні тому +3

      Everything moved to Poland shortly after invasion.

    • @GroomLakeAll-stars
      @GroomLakeAll-stars 24 дні тому

      Clown

  • @spumspumspum
    @spumspumspum 2 дні тому

    The world is a better place with people like Vlad in it. Such a huge fan of his and Soma's work