Pt.3 of 3 How To Choose A Rifle - Stainless vs. Carbon Steel(Blued) Barrel

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  • Опубліковано 15 вер 2024
  • How To Choose A Rifle - Pt.3 of 3 - Stainless vs. Carbon Steel(Blued) Barrel. While at the Remington Headquarters in Madison, N.C. we discuss the difference between choosing stainless or carbon steel (blued) barrels. Watch Parts 1 and 2 of How To Choose A Rifle @ www.mentorquest.tv

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  • @fredstah714
    @fredstah714 8 років тому +2

    Carbon steel brake rotors is the choice for high end sports cars. Carbon steel runs much more colder and have high heat tolerance. Im pretty sure it's the same with these carbon steel barrel. Correct me if I'm wrong.

  • @roderickp1389
    @roderickp1389 5 років тому +8

    This guy needs to learn a bit more about steel. S.S. doesn't corrode as easily as due to chromium. S.S.'s have at least 10.5% chromium and show passivity in oxidizing environments. He is somewhat right in declaring this is associated with low carbon as some tool steels have high chromium content but also high carbon content and therefore oxide easily. The chromium when in contact with oxygen produces chromium oxide which much like aluminum oxide doesn't expand and flake away like rust (iron-oxide). This thin film layer protects the remaining mass from oxidizing. However, S.S. are still prone to corrosion from pitting in certain environments (chloride based), crevice corrosion, intergranular attack, and galvanic corrosion.
    Furthermore, they have a wide range of hardness which can be conducted through cold rolling and heat treatment so their machineability is similar to carbon steels, and addition of different alloys such as nickel, but welding is more difficult.
    Its more expensive due to the addition of alloys such as chromium and nickel.
    Source: Engineering Materials Properties and Selection 9ed

  • @evangraham
    @evangraham 10 років тому +2

    For tactical uses, would you recommend stainless or carbon steel for your barrels?

    • @jayfizzle6184
      @jayfizzle6184 8 років тому +4

      you should just use whatever your Quartermaster, armorer or Pd issues you.

    • @evangraham
      @evangraham 8 років тому +2

      Luckily i know the answer now
      For your common carbine, a carbon steel barrel
      For a precision rifle, a stainless steel barrel

    • @toddhayslett8269
      @toddhayslett8269 7 років тому +2

      stainless steel will wear faster than a 4150 carbon steel barrel with chrome lining especially when hot.... and if you dump magazines it will eat up the throat.. this is why all machine gun barrels are carbon steel,, that being said i have ss barrels with thousands of rounds that are still accurate

    • @evangraham
      @evangraham 7 років тому +2

      i know what i need to know now

    • @greenlawnfarm5827
      @greenlawnfarm5827 7 років тому

      I think its a craft shoot. But stainless is shiney and if its long and hard and gets wet then it glisins in the light more.

  • @ElRealista7
    @ElRealista7 5 років тому +4

    stainless doesnt rust thats the most important for me.

    • @paralyzdtheory
      @paralyzdtheory 3 роки тому

      Yes, I cheaped out and got a blued 10/22 to save money, but now I'm getting rid of that barrel to buy a stainless. It's cheaper to start with stainless bc blued guns are a forever rust pit.

  • @scottborst5430
    @scottborst5430 6 років тому +3

    As a machinist it has cut different styles of Steel and different styles of stainless steel sorry to say this but b*******. It takes more time to cut a stainless steel barrel because it's gummy it gums up the tools and everything else and nearly lost my job because the plates had have been five tenths of a thousand tolerance when I machine them on the lathe machine. But when I moved him over to the mill they started a warp due to the drilling process making it hot because it was gumming up the drill. 410 or 416 stainless has low carbon rate 316 stainless has near no carbon if I'm correct on that. Your Chrome Moly barrels are going to be harder to machine than 316 or 410 stainless. What makes stainless steel stainless steel is the nickel content into it.

  • @DMX-PAT
    @DMX-PAT 6 років тому

    Thanks for your video, I think I can see why this is a bit of a dilemma...The gun manufacturers make high carbon and stainless barrels. Both are good, but stainless is more costly to produce and as a result requires higher price to make a profit. Yet by doing this they do not make as much off their regular carbon only steel barrels because which they can't sell for a premium as it's very clear they are inferior to the stainless steel one's. In essence they have to sell stainless at a close to cost rather than selling them for a premium they choose focus more on their carbon steel barrels as they make a larger profit form them due to their low production costs...or something like that?

  • @JamesPiccone
    @JamesPiccone 3 роки тому +2

    Stainless steel is not harder than carbon steel WTF

  • @mikerobertson5241
    @mikerobertson5241 8 років тому

    Can only speak form my experience , but the carbon steel shoots more consistently when cold.
    First shot from a cold stainless barrel , wide of the mark.

    • @toddhayslett8269
      @toddhayslett8269 7 років тому +1

      depends on the quality of the barrel... all bench rest barrels are made of ss

  • @speltwrong9009
    @speltwrong9009 4 роки тому +1

    Wait carbon steel is harder than stainless for sure

  • @battmarr
    @battmarr 7 років тому

    Carbon steel has better heat dissipation, where as stainless will provide slightly better accuracy. So it kinda depends on what your asking it to do.

  • @ryanramin9793
    @ryanramin9793 10 років тому +15

    Guy clearly knows nothing about steel...thinking stainless is harder than carbon steel.

    • @Tqtrpiypuu
      @Tqtrpiypuu 10 років тому +6

      Lee Harvey Oswald Yes stainless steel is indeed tougher to machine it is harder on equipment although it doesn't take heat treating as well so untreated a stainless steel is harder but in general carbon steel will be harder after heat treating. All said there are unlimited alloys of each and it really depends on what your comparing to what. The real question is what is better for a rifle and the only advantage I can say for certain is stainless steel is much more rust resistant.

    • @DickCheneyXX
      @DickCheneyXX 9 років тому +2

      +Ryan Ramin Stainless is a lot harder to machine...

    • @dangerousdon7750
      @dangerousdon7750 8 років тому +1

      have you ever had to cut or drill stainless?

    • @greenlawnfarm5827
      @greenlawnfarm5827 7 років тому

      The soft steel shaft can flex but a hard stainless rod is more rigid. You must lube it proper. Wax on. Wax off.

    • @get-the-lead-out.4593
      @get-the-lead-out.4593 5 років тому +1

      ryan ramin,
      you clearly don't have personal experience with stainless and carbon steel barrels... my dad has been a machinist for over 40years at Timet Metals where they produce titanium for places like Boeing, and we have worked on both types of barrels whereby there's a significant difference in hardness when machining them

  • @antonditt1661
    @antonditt1661 7 років тому +1

    Every time you remove your barreled acton form the stock and put it back, it will not shoot on the same spot again.

    • @greenlawnfarm5827
      @greenlawnfarm5827 7 років тому +1

      Yes it will. Even if you take the scope off. Its not a big deal.

    • @greenlawnfarm5827
      @greenlawnfarm5827 4 роки тому

      @B4 freedomfighter Maybe a small difrence. But not that much mostly.

    • @greenlawnfarm5827
      @greenlawnfarm5827 4 роки тому

      @B4 freedomfighter 1 mm is not alot if you think about it mathimatically. It depends how far it is.

    • @greenlawnfarm5827
      @greenlawnfarm5827 4 роки тому

      @B4 freedomfighter Its the same thing! That is how they say it in Europe.

    • @greenlawnfarm5827
      @greenlawnfarm5827 4 роки тому

      @B4 freedomfighter Are you talking about a real gun?