Toast doubles down after Small Streamer Drama & shares his advice
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- Опубліковано 5 вер 2024
- Disguised Toast addresses the backlash from his small streamer statements regarding the OTV Minecraft server and shares some actual streaming advice
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company : why should we hire you?
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Wow. That's the best way to put it...
Purrfect
Pretty much truth
Sums it all
Hahahaha, THIS IS TOO GOOD
I think people don’t know that there’s a difference between being a good streamer and a good gamer. If you are a good gamer, that means you can play games, but if you are a good streamer, you can promote your content, your streams must be enjoyable just like the gameplay, like there’s a reason if you can’t gain more views.
Also being bad doesn't mean you can't get good... Toast isn't there to be a teacher to streamers. Although some might get good eventually, some can't for some reason.
And those with potential are basically the ones that can get good, fast. A potential to blow up usually.
these small streamers don't understand ... like being a streamer is more than just being good at the game even I don't think that otv & friends are really pro gamers or even they knew that they're pro but pretend they don't because content creation is their main priority. Look at Sykkuno, he has potential but he's not serious and trolling all the time because he knew, at the end of the day contents come first.
It could also be that no one has heard of you. iirc on a moistcritikal video, there was a small streamer that charlie hosted and that streamsr is now a lot more popular.
@@amylimna a lot of the small streamer arent even good at the games.
@@ACE112ACE112 But that comes back to the point Toast makes about people having potential.
Because that streamer wouldn't have gotten so popular if the streamer itself wasn't a good streamer.
Can't believe people are actually mad that they can't get into a server which was clearly created by a group of friends for their friends. It's actually quite funny tho
And they attacked him for that. Lol
@erumitsu anybody who's just rose to fame should expect that these cancel cultures or haters or bashers are gonna come at you. And that's cringey asf. Why don't they just mind their own business and butt out in someone else's life.
@@diesincringe4243 That's already a sign that they don't deserve success as a streamer
@@itsauguste who did you meant that they don't deserve success? You mean toast? Lol. He deserved everything he has rn.
@@diesincringe4243 I'm obviously referring to the small streamers that got pissed by toast's statement. If they're pissed off at toast for not accepting them just because they're "small streamers", they don't deserve any fame or success at streaming at all.
“They hated him because he told them the truth”
is it the truth though? or is it what toast and his followers believes is the truth?
Its the truth lmao. Like in every aspects of life thats true.
@@janderson7459 it's the truth. Not even a fan of toast though. He only said those words to share his advice that these small streamers is still "small" streamers bcuz their content is garbage asf. He meant that to improve morw to make good content if you want to blow up. If they find it offensive then it's on them. Toast doesn't give a fck.
@@janderson7459 we can think for ourselves thank you..
Toast is Jesus isekai'ed
The thing about Disguised Toast is he speaks actual facts in blunt way. ffs , he's old enough to talk topics like this.
facts
the thing with toast is he is great with half truths as an example his among us gameplay.
he is great at manipulating and controlling people ie his viewers like you with subtle lies baked in a half truth. DW even friends that knows his tactics fall for his lies. it makes it all the easier to manipulate his fans that barely know him.
@@janderson7459 butthurt by truth person here fellow humans^
@@janderson7459 manipulate? Lol. It's clear as day that he's spitting facts. Did you even heard what he said? Small streamers are still small coz they are a bad streamer and doesn't have a good/interesting content. He did say that to improve their content if they want to blow up like him. It's on them if they took it as an offense. And this is not an Among us gameplay so you're words doesn't mean shit.
@@janderson7459 Push the Emergency Button guys. Let's vote now yes.
Why are we in the Among Us Gameplay.
Toast always acts like an “asshole” because he wants a healthy community and no suck ups or people that try to get to know him personally. Kinda like Ludwig with the “I’m not your friend” scenario. It’s smart and it also helps.
@@zaynxt6293 almost all of the non core OTV group is a suckup
I dont think its because of that, toast is very sincere with everything. When you are like that, you can only live fairly if you hold others to the same standard and demand sincerity. Things like being politically correct, don't go well with that way of living. Being politically correct for the sake of being politically correct lacks any kind of honest intentions. You should do good things because there is a reasoning behind it, not because everyone told you so.
@@JuicerNation If you think of it logically, it is a very very good strategy by him it's not like he has lost his moral will to help others but he has problems with small streamers that are primarily clout catchers, remember when toast started the hype of Among Us he invited alot of streamers like the Three Amigos (Sykkuno,Valkyrae and Toast), 5up,Hafu,DK, And many more along with it is Tina. Tina was part of small streamer community and toast found potential on her.
@@user-kw9zx9vv6h the point toast made wasnt wrong, its just his phrasing
@@Ryan-to1pr I know.
I think people need to understand that this is just the way he talks lol. The dude’s blunt to almost EVERYONE. Especially Yvonne XD
if toast was honest he would call yvonne a leech. she got extremely lucky to be where she is today. she was hired to manage otv and schedule content then she just streamed all day and didn't do her job but since she was lily's friend they couldn't just kick her plus its bad PR at this point since people like her. when toast and scarra said she couldn't get a cat she went on the forums to petition fans to back her up(she is smart, she knows her power, and knows how to use it).
even poki said on stream they had a problem with adding a house manager since they all ended up trying to be full time streamers.
@@janderson7459 lol you are honestly one of the worst human in earth. Kewk
@@janderson7459 wasn't it explained that the reason she wasn't able to do her job back then was because she was trying to get away from a certain someone after what that person did lol
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I guess you never knew someone named Fed then eh ?
@@janderson7459 Forgot about Fed?
Whats wrong with his statement? If your only merit is youre a small streamer then no, you arent entitled to anything
yeah as a small streamer, literally nothing is wrong with his statement, people just don't like the hard truth lmfao
Right? And theyre angry about it. Theyre weird
I think he just sound more arrogant (and I know he isn't. He just tends to sound arrogant to those not used to him). I think his argument is right but I think his response sucked (if his goal was to slam them into submission, good job. If his goal was to sincerely convince them, nope). Lot's of unnecessary ad hominem.
you have to be a small streamer that's friends with his friends.
@@janderson7459 more like you need to be a good friend to their friends in the first place. Not being friends now that they are popular now cause you feel like they can boost your popularity.. Start being smart dumb,, ^
Sugarcoating is not part of Toast's vocabulary... and I respect that
I mean what do you expect it's the otv and FRIENDS server they wont invite random people unless they're funny or a good rper take burn for example he's hilarious
burn has +3k viewers most of the time there is a lot of good small streamers that haven't got their chance yet his take is literally dogshit
@@MMRRSasuke did you watch the video? He agrees but if you’re a small streamer you shouldn’t just wait there and ask for a shoutout or wait to be invited to a server to get exposure/grow. If in the OTV Minecraft server they invited random small streamers 99% of them would actually be boring af and a bad streamer. The chance of the 1% of good small streamers to get a shoutout is just as low as you touching grass.
@@MMRRSasuke why u dont watch small streamer . I tried once and got insta bored no cam no one talks they just blast non copyright music . And when they see people are watching they instantly start saying hey follow me sometimes they just type it on chat . And burn ye he has 3k viewers but he started from 0 made his own content . Another example are gta rp streamers that got popular because the rp was good. And getting on the wl server was hard sometime u have to wait 10/12h just to get in . And once u are in u have to think what is the best way to approach other streamer not just stream snipe them or trying to contact them 20x times cuz if u do that they will just block you. Make your own content be funny be different dont rely to other streamer.
@@MMRRSasuke Care to explain what part of his take is "dogshit"?
If your whole identity revolves around being a small streamer and whine to someone they didnt pick you because you are a small streamer means you have nothing else to offer.
@@eldenlord2798 I freaking love your comment on this LMAOOO. The people who disagree with Toast's take clearly didn't finish the whole video or understood what he meant at all
I'll be honest I like Toast's personality, straight facts and bluntness over his among us content. Not saying his among us content is bad, but these clips are more preferable for me.
i honestly fucking hate his among us content. it was good at first, but as time went on, i began to miss his old content. not to mention the younger fanbase that was brought over
@@chashubokchoy8999 "but as time went on, i began to miss his old content" yea, Toast knew as well. The game only had so many fresh new kinds of interactions, after a while there's not much else to explore. They tried with mods and proximity chat which did freshen up the vids a little, but after a while it still got stale and that's just the way it be for any kind of game with insufficient depth.
@@chashubokchoy8999 yeah same it’s getting repetitive man
Toast is speaking nothing but straight facts! It may be a harsh reality and lesson that you're content is not doing so well, but that leaves open a door for improvement that people forget to catch on.
An additional problem is people not knowing how to improve because they aren't able to see their flaws
A lot of people lacks listening/reading comprehension skills.
@@diesincringe4243
True , but maybe it’s not comprehension skills but they just want something to get triggered at
Yea i agree, low views = bad
@@majikwaffle9436 low views for years = bad*
*You dont expect handouts.* Majority of OTV and Friends have been streaming for over 3+ years. They had to grind to make a name for themselves. Now, these small streamers who havent even been streaming for that long are pressed because the guy was blunt with his honest take. Also, if you've been streaming for a long while but havent reached that 100 viewer mark, obviously something needs to change and be improved upon. But if you glorify your brand as a "small streamer" and expect this to be your source of income, then you are *A BAD STREAMER* (Not a bad person, just bad at your job). Yes, a few of their friends got instant fame but the keyword here is "friends" whom they have known for quite a while, but majority of them amassed large followings on their own. Imagine, CORPSE, *a faceless guy with an unknown identity,* already had over 2 million on YT before being affiliated with the Pewds group and OTV. He didnt need big names to have an audience. He didnt even need a face. All that was purely individual effort. Now, tell me do you think being affiliated with big names are the only prerequisites to making it big? *HELL TO THE NO.*
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spot on
Yes
solid point 👌
yeah seans and Pewds Have Been Streaming For a long Time Lol
hahaha
For those people who gets triggered by what Toast has said, I suggest you watch Ryan's take on Toast's statements. He basically dumbed down the whole point of Toast for your sensitive asses :)
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I was just about to comment this too. Thanks.
When you get big,at any field, people will always try to drag you on a drama or make you look bad somehow.Even if you are good from your side,some people will always hate you or try to pull you down.The cancellation drama was like that too.
Life,happens.
That's not the point but that's true.
They are trying to make a drama out of this so their names would end up on the search engines and youtube algorithm. good thing toast didnt even mention a single name.
the way he says things can be easily misinterpreted. you have to really understand what he's trying to say because it's true! just because you're small and an aspiring streamer doesn't mean you deserve to be part of the server. you're deluding yourself by pushing the narrative that your life is some inspiring story where you can achieve all your dreams. but you're not working hard at achieving these dreams? especially if you want to be invited to a server based on the sole fact that you're a small streamer. and if you do have potential you don't want to be invited just because you're a small streamer. you'd want to be invited because of your potential.
I really really don't think someone can misinterpreted what he says. The only people can misinterpreted this are people who isn't good at english and kids below 12. Its so clear and well said. Its just harsh, blunt and real
@@ameameame well, obviously a lot of the small streamers misinterpreted what he said. they might not be the brightest, which is likely if they're quick to attack toast without thinking what he said through, but i'm sure a lot of them are over 12 and speak english fluently. someone who's a small streamer who's passionate about gaming and has big dreams could think he's being elitist and that his server is exclusive only to streamers who have a big following. they fail to recognize that being a big streamer takes charisma and skill and that's something some people have to learn because they're not born with it. so if they ignore that fact they would see toast as an insensitive snob which he's not!
He deals with invites so his friends don’t have to. It seems like he is frustrated with all the spam and harassment by small streamers to get into a server. Everybody thinks they’re going to be the one in a million that Otv picks out of the crowd but Toast is making it clear that nobody will be
@@sealtrain8252 so true i always see comments of his among us livestreams telling him they'd play when they're short a member. very delusional
Actually what he is saying can't be misinterpreted. It can only be taken offensively which is what they did. If you actually listen to his words, you understand his mindset which is right.
lmao the salty streamers coming at toast clearly didn't comprehend his take
I was very happy when Toast kept inviting 5up to play Among Us with them. I watched him when he was a 1k Andy, I'm so happy he blew up :)
the thing with 5up is he always had the connections but never used it because he didn't like clout chasing and waited till a game he is good at to come out.
The way Toast describe Abe's case is probably the same with 5up. He was friends with streamers for years, probably before a few of them blew up, but he stayed in the background, did his own thing and was their friend first and foremost. Then when he started getting popular, he already had the connections to help grow that popularity even more.
@@norahr14 top 0.01%
Yeah 1k streamers aren't that small. There is a lot of them that get less then 1k.
@@quz1ree 1k view is a lot. I mean even 100 viewer is alrdy a lot when you think about it.
People who say 200 viewers is not a lot should imagine those 200 sitting in a room together.
Toast gives us facts and reality that's why I always listen to his word. I also agree with what he said about those type of small streamers who just says "small streamer here" like they just want to be pitied to gain viewers which is not what a good streamer does.
Lmao he’s so blunt about shit, that’s my streamer
Now we realize how important it is to throw the duty of handling players invite to Toast because if others like poki were to handle they might broke under pressure or ruin their images.
yeah which is exactly why Toast took charge of the invites on the otv mc server cause if we look at it when the rust server came out, abe was in charge of the invitations and etc, practically everyone and their mothers were invited and or joined cause Abe struggled to say no cause he didn't wanna hurt anyone. Toast however can blatantly tell a streamer no and explain why he said no, he can handle the hate and he handles everything smoothly, people say that Toast isn't caring and etc but he literally does a lot of things and or sacrifices himself a lot to make sure his friends doesn't get hurt by viewers or other streamers/their communities.
This is weird because their group is literally otv AND FRIENDS it’s the otv AND FRIENDS server
Otv and small streamer?
to get to the server, you have to be Friends of OTV regardless of who you are. But to be friends to them, you need at least that Long term connection or small streamers which potential got acknowledge such as the one in the GTA Server.
This is a good wake up call to basically track back where it's goin wrong. It takes a looooot of time and effort but eventually you will get there
I feel like a random small streamer asking to join server is like a random dude just come to your house and say, "Hey I see you don't use your couch that often, so let me sleep there for free"
Omg i love Toast so much bc of this LMAO. He’s the type of friend EVERYONE needs in their friend group. He doesn’t sugarcoat things and say you’re doing good when evidently you’re not and instead pours you the cold bucket of truth so that you’d wake the fvck up and get your shit together. So that you’d be better. And I respect Toast for that.
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Sykkuno: "I'm just a small streamer for fun" 😏😏
I dont get why people are mad... they already invited Sykkuno and he's a small streamer for fun.
Sykkuno fans just can't help themselves going around everywhere to get a chance to mention his name with same old meme.
@@purpur4775 At least it somewhat makes sense as it relates to the video. You should see the random ones that sound like they commented under the wrong video.
@@purpur4775 LOL I don't even watch sykkuno just know the meme and thought it'd make sense here
It's like Ryan said, Toast just stating the truth but in his own way of explaining (more bloody)
if what he says offends you, if this is what triggers you... then there's no hope for you. because this type of shit should be programmed into you already if you are anywhere near the awareness of what hard work and diligence means.
But I was born with malfunction :(
Talk should start just talking videos in his UA-cam channel. All the things he’s saying is some real facts and he can talk in a way that can interest people.
Those people meddling with other people business and attacking them have no life other than bringing others down
And big streamers have no other life than acting like victims for views because someone said mean things about something you said lol.
@@paulgotik Defending yourself and saying the truth about the small streamer means acting as a victim? Are you that dumb bruh?
Guess you got hit very hard huh...
@@paulgotik can you point out where exactly in the video Toast acted like a victim? All he said was he was not backing down and explained further
The fact that small streamers demanded invites and pitied themselves as if they're entitled to something makes me so happy that toast told them how it is. Your contents trash. Up your game man. If they want us to watch their content then make something that we would enjoy and laugh over. AND YES I know some small streamers definitely have potential but we haven't recognized them yet and untill then we will wait for you.
this highkey reminding me of vtweeters getting mad at mori calliope for calling them out for their bs LOL
i mean its harsh but mans got a point, kinda had to get used to it bc everyone is overly HR talky and catring to each person whos listening but i appreciate the raw honesty
is like when a big streamer raids a small streamer with the same category and suddenly in just 5-30 mins all of them gone, no matter how many viewers they suddenly have from instant boost, viewers will always look at the streamer unique "value". if they don't have it, they just look at the left screen and then click their favorite one.
The fact that small streamers feel entitled into Abe’s server... he don’t know them , he don’t like them, and they have no credentials. Lmao
So basically build a brand outside of streaming first then once you have a fan base, start streaming... that's what i got out of this.
its the easiest way yeah
That is actually quality advice. If twitch has the discovery problem, then counter it by going somewhere that is less of a problem, like reddit and tiktok. I hope the small streamers take note instead of being butt hurt lol.
So basically. You gotta earn your place, is what toast is saying😂. Blunt as ever ig, he do be speaking straight facts tho💪🏽💀
There are people who actually pay to get advices like this. And this dude giving them out for free and gets hate?
I know right every time I hear a content creator like Toast give advice I listen because they have done this for years
It’s 4am rn but sleep can wait...Toast and this clip channel is more important 😌
10:45 here just woke up
3pm, just woke up🤣🤣😅😅
5:55AM, still awake LOL
The actually good small streamers are somewhere on twitch growing their channel and not begging Toast entry into the smp lmao
toast got a point
100% Agree I'm small streamer trying to build my own brand I don't need to appease people that don't even know you and impress other streamers I don't give a shit what anbody says I'm focusing on myself and no one else.
Lesson 1: Shut up
Lesson 2: Be better
Lesson 3: Stop expecting things
Lesson 5: Popular streamers are like Popular musicians. You aren't watching garage bands on youtube
Even musicians say its who you know and luck.
Fuck, I love his forwardness. It's refreshing to hear this realistic viewpoint.
he has a point tho, if making the name "small streamer" be your brand then that just means that you are not doing enough or you're not striving to be a big streamer at all. i mean it sounds wrong for him to say that you are not a good streamer but he is just speaking facts, and the truth hurts tbh. idk why so much people now a days are just expecting hand outs from others that are more successful then them just because they helped other small streamers in the past lol.
Honestly really happy you are posting this kind of stuff and are sticking by your guns. I think it is important that people understand how much work goes into getting really any form of success. I know not backing down can be difficult backlash wise, but thanks for saying it and I can’t wait for the new content to drop.
In the famous words of breach "if u are not getting shot at, you are doing something wrong."
he's only speaking facts. Now replace the whole "knowing someone" with "being a girl" and you get what every female streamer that's accused of being succesful only for being female has been saying for years. The people getting mad that others are succeeding are almost exclusevely young men in their late teens up to mid 20's that are getting almost no views and blame it on others "it's not my fault i'm not succeeding it's cause those girls or those friends from someone or this good looking dude are stealing my views" instead of noticing:
wait this streamer learnt how to use : photoshop to make their own overlays, emotes, etc they've learnt how to use tiktok and other social medias to bring in people, they've learnt to interact with chat.
it's a guarantee that when i see someone say this kind of stuff they are one or more of those things:
-they haven't put work into their overlay or emotes or bio
- they're not trying to be untertaining
- they're not researching how to improve themselves
- they sit there not talking because no one is chatting
- they think you can still get views by simply being found on twitch (this was true 6/7 years ago but not anymore)
-they're delusional and think streaming and making cash is easy
- they think all they need is luck to become popular
I can feel so hard for Toast on this cus personally I also just say what people need to hear rather than what they want to hear and they're sometimes very far apart from each other and it fucking sucks sometimes, but nobody's helping you by just echoing back your hopes and dreams at you. Reality is brutal and the truth about it isn't always fun to hear but if you truly want to succeed in not just streaming but life in general, that is indeed the path you'll have to go through. It's not going to be fun or easy for most of us but it is the way to get things done.
People always take Toast's statements out of context. It's like they don't even finish listening to the whole thing. We honestly need more people like him: honest and doesn't sugarcoat.
I hear straight FACTS!!!
I just need a Toast podcast every week where he just talks about everything under the sun and gives us straight facts..
He has a good point though, what do you want him to do? Give you a handout based purely on the fact that you aren't successful?
There you go. Those 9 dislikes are from those small streamers. Lol
Its growing. Now at 55 .🤭
How come I can't see the dislikes counter anymore?
@@felizardodelizojr.2377 Welp they do are the "99% of Twitch" so not surprised. Lol
Well small streamers aren’t small because they’re bad streamers, it’s because of one or more of these reasons.
1) Their channel is relatively new (as in became active 1 month - 1 year ago)
2) They don’t have connections with other streamers.
3) Their content is not in a fast-growing style.
None of these have anything to do with wether a streamer is bad at streaming.
Toast, that's why you are Lawful Evil.
You have real principles and law in life and you give advices in a blunt and harsh way.
But I applaud you for that.
I was a small streamer too before, but your advices were eye-opener for things.
Someone watched the video twice. Idk. Someone. XD
@@kenjiroumiyamoto1432 I watched thrice. Who was the someone?
@@msblackrose999 I mean themselves probably?
honestly all the people missing the point don't have what it takes to be successful anyways. if they can't take honest and true criticism, it means they're not open to learn and improve themselves. if you're at the bottom, you're not gonna rise up from crying about how unfair the world is.
and yes sometimes it really is unfair, sometimes talented people just never make it because they lack the opportunities, connections, timing, and resources. it's hard to make it as a streamer nowadays, and if you've tried everything and it didn't work out, maybe you should just accept it and move on. it's impossible to demand a push from bigger streamers cause it's not their job to sort through thousands of people to see who has potential and is genuine and deserves it.
I think people think streaming or content creation is easy, so we should help each other get big. Like no to all of that. Streaming is still a job and no matter how much a person may like it, it is still stressful and dealing with people, let alone putting your opinions and life on the internet. Alex Myers just said he created his own living hell with content creation bc you can never stop and expect your fan base and money to still be there. That's so bad for your mental health, so props to Toast for making those boundaries and speaking the truth like always.
Put in the hard work then maybe. No hand outs. Plain and simple. People get hurt easily now a days. Keep being blunt toast.
I am a very small content creator, so small I don't really update often. I have the mindset that if a small streamer without a consistent schedule gets invited to the OTV server then they're in for a world of hurt. Sure you'd get a sizeable following nearly instantly but can they keep up with that following? Will they be able to entertain that many people? 80% can't! I have seen dozens of streamers on Twitch fail after a bump of 35 viewers out of nowhere. They get so nervous they stop talking as much and fail to read chat. I fit the exact criteria that Toast is describing: I am a bad small streamer. I am indeed s**t at streaming, I know I am! I agree with everything.
well, sometimes small streamers are good streamers, they are small because they fail to advertise their stream and personality.
A good streamer is more than just streaming
I like toast for being real, it's hard to be real with most people
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Them taking offense just proves that they're part of the bad streamers that toast is talking about lmaooo
Why don’t the angry streamers assume that they are the ones with potential?
It would be a privilege for Toast to call my content trash. Id be getting direct feedback from someone who undoubtedly knows how to make content.
I love Toast! Knew his name during his Hearthstone days, and have been watching him since TFT. I have started streaming 2 weeks ago, and these comments will help me greatly!
He's kinda like a sports coach you know, for streamers. He's blunt and straightforward with his words which will probably annihilate your pride, but he's absolutely true.
No person is going to want you in their group if the only thing you present to them is the fact that you provoke a sense of pity (like being lesser known, having 0 viewers while having streamed for a year, etc.).
You are fully right and it felt like you're talking directly to me! ("YOU'RE GARBAGE!" 😢😂) I am one of these
he's not generally talking to all small streamers tbh.. context is people are demanding to be invited to their otv mc server because their selling point is being a 'small streamer'
People who under 18 should not allow to stream tbh
Main minecraft streames already gone then lol
Tommy and tubbo be like
Do you mean that they make up most of the small streamers so they shouldn't stream or is it something else?
@@marshmellowd3640 Half of what you said and also a good amount of streamers are kids, and kids don't really think of logical things...that's what the comment meant I believe
thank you toast, you actually gave me a good starting point for streaming without bullshitting for 15 minutes first
To all the people who might have/haven't got offended with this video or are new here, know that he won't change himself for you. Also more information down below
This guy's Toast
Wasn’t talking like that when he had the tommy pickles haircut
I do agree with Toast. it is not easy to entertain and gain audience. it takes time to build yourself throughout the years. I made my own UA-cam channel since last year, and I realized the difficulty to attract audience. I am still working, and was planning to gain side income here and there. But, as long as I enjoyed of what I am doing, I am satisfied, and hopefully the effort will produce results. I record and edit everything by myself btw. Enjoy what you are doing, and don't expect too much
Thank you for the medicine Disguised Toast Dad. I just started streaming, just like twice a week of some video games but i want to do more of like art and crafty fun stuff. I've been watching advice videos and just other streamers in general to get some ideas of what i find fun or nice about watching someone and this advice is going in that mental notebook too. There's always room for improvement.
Wholeheartedly agree. The mindset of "being small" as a reason for you to gain special treatment is not the way to grow bigger. Regardless of whether you have the potential or not, if you aren't seeing growth in your life that's not because you haven't been given a chance from someone higher up on the ladder, it's because there is something that can be improved on. This is literally Toast's way of saying "don't limit yourself to being a small streamer, be more." In content creating specifically, there is so much more work done behind the scenes (trends, research, connections, community, interactions, etc.) that getting acknowledged by a bigger creator is irrelevant unless you can demonstrate why you were and should be acknowledged. Be inspired and put in the work! If you're doing it right then your day will come.
Wow what a bad person he is! how dare he say that and look down to us small streamers?! Im out here fighting for my LIFE! Im gonna go bitch about it on Twitter and cry instead of taking his GOOD advice and improving my streams to become a BETTER streamer.
I get that small streamers can be small for a reason, and I get everything he’s saying, but the fact that he said small streamers are bad streamers is just such a cocky thing to say. Every streamer who got famous mostly got famous because of luck, very little of it was skill. There are studies of how the most skilled people will almost never get chosen because they won’t get lucky enough. I do get what he’s trying to say, but I feel like he could’ve phrased it better. He always talks about his hard work, but even with how good his content is, the algorithm made it 99% luck, maybe more. FYI, I don’t even stream or make youtube videos, so I’m not biased.
The advice here is so next level. Don't sleep on this stuff.
I've tried watching a few "small streamers". They are extremely boring to watch. They hardly even talk to the stream. Especially if they are playing a game and they are 100% invested in the game and don't ever talk to stream, they don't attempt to talk about anything. Why are you streaming if you're not interacting with your chat at all?? At least people like Sykkuno actually talk all the time.
Honest, straightforward advice.
Very reapectable.
I agree with this and feel getting all desperate will only decrease any chance by pushing others away
Toast is like the Dave Chappelle of the streamer community. Unapologetic and straightforward. Keep it 100 Toast!
So glad this is on youtube, I had to go when this stream happened and I needed to know what was going down
So pretty much one or more of 3 things are necessary for stream success:
1. Be good. Be stupidly good, like, one of the best, or better. It’s hard, but simple. The more talented you are, the more interested people get.
2. Be popular. Do something that gains recognition. Usually, it’s something no one else does. Not just niche, but interesting and fresh. Don’t just fallow fads either. Do something truly original, or creative like drawing or music.
3. Be funny. Be an entertainer. You can do whatever you want, whether it’s gaming, or just chatting with your audience, and if you’re hilarious, people will want to tune in. Especially if you have an attitude and confidence.
Consider yourself lucky if you reach more than 10 views, and if you reach between 100-200, you can consider collaborating with other streamers. Just keep in mind, you should absolutely start with other streamers like yourself, at your viewer level, and feel free to speak well about other streamers. Twitch publicity is something of a two-way street. If you say something good about someone, the attention you attract to those people are bound to return two-fold back to you.
Just know the essential component to collaborating is knowing the other streamer, having good synergy, and having a good time.
And stream what YOU want. Don’t let people call you out for having a dead stream if it’s Minecraft instead of League of Legends. You don’t have to have a lot of viewers to have a good stream. Just having fun is enough every now and again.
I was about to write a similar comment on what you can do! I had like to add 1 more point to your comment, something what Toast said but didn't elaborate.
4- Advertise about yourself on other platforms too other than Twitch. Make a youtube channel if you can and upload content. If you aren't really good with editing and stuff, you might wanna learn it. If you aren't ready to actually do youtube for whatever reason, I feel a welcome video can it be all too. Make accounts on Instagram, Twitter and Reddit. Post short gameplays, interact with other favourite content creators(can be lucky in the long run) and interact with people around the same viewership as you. You might wanna scroll down Valkyrae's feed to get an idea. As Toast mentioned in the video, use Reddit for experimenting stuff. And twitter could be asking people to hop on to your stream, post your schedule and achievements on there.
If you're really serious about the Twitch game, you might wanna see Poki's video about Tips/Tricks to grow your following, its a 43 minute video I guess. Also don't expect any monetary support in the 1st year of your streaming journey. Thank you!
What you said ^
literally everything he said is true, sucks to see people that can't take criticism and actual good advice and get angry about it.
He said if you are small then you are probably bad, which just sounds like survivor ship bias. Plenty of small good streamers never blow up. Twitch is like a lottery. You have to be good to get a ticket, and you have to be lucky enough to win.
He said it as a generalization, but then clarified that it isnt the case 100% of the time. I agree that plenty of small streamers never blow up, hell i've known a bunch, but he is right that a lot of small streamers just stream and expect growth. Twitch is nowhere near like it was back in 2011, where you could stream and grow. Like Toast said, you have to expand your reach to as many platforms as possible. Being a good creator gets you the ticket, but expanding your reach is like getting more tickets, and therefore more chances to have your discovery point. However, once you get that discovery, it is the creators job to either continue what they are doing or adapt their content to grow with them as they grow.
"They are not getting a chance because they are small, they are getting a chance because they have potential"
I wholeheartedly agree with Toast, it's easy to be offended by it though, I think it would be good if he gave pointers on how to BE a better streamer in general. The stuff he said was very helpful though.
the 121 dislikes are the angry small streamers
Basically it takes both skill and opportunity. A bad streamer can't succeed regardless of opportunities given. But it's hard for a great "entertainer" to go mainstream without that initial boost of fame. Toast suffers a little from "winner bias", like many self-made millionaires his reasoning is "Well I made it without help, therefor everyone can".
And that's of course true to a degree, you can farm them opportunities yourself and be lucky enough to gain that mainstream appeal over time. But then there's streamers like Tina and Sykkuno who without that initial boost would never have made it.
Is there a timeline where Toast didn't get the initial traction and fizzled out as a streamer or stayed as a 500 viewer Andy? Of course there is. Assuming "I would always make it because I'm built to succeed" doesn't necessarily hold a truth. 🤔
This Guy spits FACTS! I remember when i discovered twitch the first stream I ever tried to watch was a small streamer because I want to discover a good stream even with no viewers but they are irritating and ask for donations so I left after about a minute or two 😒
Maybe the streamers are small because they spend their energy being upset about Toast instead of channelling their energy for, you know, the content.
This is why I like Toast, he’s honest about what he thinks and he doesn’t back down from his beliefs about things when people start giving him crap for it.
I’d also include small streamers that aren’t quote on quote “bad” that have smaller target audiences such as playing a smaller game. I am a smaller content creator, yet I am the biggest content creator for the game I play.
lmfao the audacity of these small streamers i cant mwkwkwkwkw
Just came across this & I agree. You could still be a small streamer & get an invite. Like Toast could come across a smaller streamer & recognise their humour or talent or whatever, then invite them.
Bruh I would rather have someone more “successful” than me to criticize and tell me the FACTS rather than a person telling me you’ll do great just keep going when clearly I’m doing something that won’t make my content and fan base bigger
"A lot of my friends started out as small streamers... for fun."
I just straight burst out laughing OMEGALUL
If some of the small streamers are getting angry, grow up, stream more and play games more. Build you own audience not grabbing from other streamers. Toast can literally do whatever he wants with his game and invite whoever he wants to add to the game. If you are small and he grabs you don't abuse the fact that you were small and now boosted because of it. I agree with his statement before he had to clarify, I'm a small streamer barely stream as it is, but i still get views from the people who follow me and tune in, I don't need to join in a big streamer just to get views.