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Russia has secured the land bridge across the Donbas and is in full possesion and control of the area and the Crimea. It is over my friend Ukraine lost and now we have Israel. Speaking of that they have world class intelligence and arms, the iron dome and the IDF. It is almost like they let it happen. Geopolitics the ultimate chessboard!
Ukraine faces the IT junior dilemma. You need the entry-level position(western arms) to get 5 years experience(success on the battlefield), but you need 5 years of experience before they'll give you the entry-level position ...
Those who support Ukrainian deaths, and Russian deaths aswell, will have no problem turning on you when the same government demands it. So everyone keep cheering for ukrainy until you get sent to the front line yourself to die in the dirt for NOTHING but bankers money and psychopath politicians :)
not really, thats bad comparison. for example, many Western military "experts" were saying that patriot system is too complicated for Ukrainians and they gonna need years to learn how to use it. but in the same week when Ukraine recived it - they for the first time in the world managed to shoot down russian hypersonic missiles, that considered "invincible" before that.
@@Adam4ik3579 but it is true that Ukraine gets new toys after some significant achievements. In Ukraine there are even memes about amount of killed Russians and “milestones”, like 10k 20k 50k 100k and claimed rewards
Not all "Western" countries waited for months for United States to start the effort. It was actually led by Poland, Czechia and the Baltic states. Only the tanks were not western made. But it was the countries of Central and Eastern Europe that waited FOR THE WEST to realize what is going on and get the ball rolling.
None of those nations are great defense powers (Poland just recently got strong) and none of those nations have defense manufacturing of significance. Ukraine needed the West to help them survive. US, UK, GER, FRA etc. Poland gave the highest per capita, but Ukraine would still lose. It has been the West with Ukraine (and that's when they decide to give as little as they have) or nothing and Russia spends 5 to 10 years in Ukraine, but ultimately wins. POV American
The US started the effort before the invasion even began. There is a reason why Javelins were taking out Russian tanks on day 2. The problem since then has been the fits and starts manner of providing weapons. No we're not going to send them ok now we will ... rinse wash repeat for every weapons system.
History repeats itself, if the bear finally wakes from all your poking, most eastern nations will join them like we did the soviets in Ww2. Except poland, they get fucked no matter what, Germans or Russian, they really hate the poles fore some reason.
The question of, “Does the West really want Ukraine to Win?” The majority of people in U.S. in particular, don’t care. We want politicians to stop spending out money on a war between two authoritarian states. This war was entirely avoidable, NATO admitted that they provoked Russia, and they even boasted about it. The only people gaining from this war are the military manufacturers, and the politicians whom they pay to keep voting for more spending of taxpayer money. Money that just goes right back to the military industrial complex. Both sides take money from their citizens to fund their war, then they send those same citizens into a war they never wanted. I don’t get how the U.S. still pretends to be the good guys, as we destabilize yet another region of the world, without any attempts at peace talks.
The West really wants Ukraine to win and Russia to lose, but win/lose in a certain way. The West (some of it anyway) wants Russia to make an active decision to pull out of Ukraine rather than be kicked out, which might leave Russia angry enough to make trouble in other ways (escalate perhaps). I’m not sure this thinking has much merit but it is what some think.
Actually, what they want is balkanization, since it allows them to consolidate more power covertly. Western people should be revolting against their corrupt governments, but judging from the comment section, they are more than happy with sending all of Ukraine to the slaughter... A nation sacrificed to cover up the atrocities of Epstein in Crimea...
@@antonbatura8385 Those in the West with the "pull out" preference are probably thinking more about their own blood. Might not work out that way though.
@@antonbatura8385 Sure, and to the west that is a cost they are willing to pay. They remember the 90's when Russia imploded, and how much grief that was securing all from nukes to scientists, so they don't run around the world spreading terrible weapons or information. Why is Russia a member of the ISS? Because the US payed for everything so to keep Russian rocket scientists at their jobs, and not looking for work in NK, Libya, Iraq, Iran etc. Nobody wants a repeat, because no body can be sure we will succeed this time too.
@antonbatura8385 despite the rhetoric, the decision makers don't really care about Ukrainian lives, they only think in terms of political goals, if they did, they'd permit airstrikes like in Kosova in the 90s a year ago
The Holland Minister of Defense Kaisa Ollongren described it the best. "Supporting Ukraine is a cheap way to ensure that Russia does not pose a threat to the NATO Alliance" The ukrainian people are being used.
@@eoricusaudeles4505 Bro, if Ukrainians wanted to join Russia, NATO wouldnt say a word. The only reason NATO is involved is because they saw that Ukraine wants to fight this war. Its true, they have some interests here but I promise you, if Ukraine votes to join Russia tomorrow, the west will be mad but ultimately they wont do anything serious about it.
I do think the old saying, " don't assume malice when you can assume stupidity, " applies to the rate of flow of aid. The Ukrainian allies don't seem to understand that there's no upside to half-commiting. Either send the right amount of proper aid...or don't. Don't send tanks designed for combined arms warfare when you dilly-dally about sending aircraft. Don't sanction oil sales if you cannot get Saudi Arabia on your side.
@ekaterinamitroshina1992 no its not. If we just trickle in the weaponry, it helps Ukraine to hold on but it doesn't help them win. From a utilitarian standpoint, we just throw our resources into a woodchipper, a little at a time. Send in the equipment, at the right time, and the right amount and Ukraine could win decisively. Going back to those Abrams, we only sent in enough for one battalion. Is Ukraine going to go toe to toe with Russia successfully with that? If the USA had authorized the handover of F-16's at the same time, and Ukraine could do some form of combined arms doctrine, what would the effect of that assistance be? Instead, they get the tanks now and the airplanes...eventually? How do you plan based on that.
😂 like don't send main battle tanks to a country where the average bridge can't hold a semi truck or don't send main battle tanks to a country where 90% of the ground is bottomless bogs or don't send main battle tanks to a country that will need a bridge laying vehicles every 200 yards making tanks rocket magnets because they will be stopped more than they will moving. Ukraine isn't a NATO country and we are under no obligation to help. Understand Biden ran away from Afghanistan, a place where we died and were helping, to run away and fund a country no better than what we are told Russia is, nuke them both!!
Whenever someone asks the question “Does the West really want Ukraine to win?” I always ask what would the west have to gain from Ukraine losing because the west would lose a strategic partner in the region, look weak and unable to protect our allies, Russia would be emboldened to try this sort of stunt again upon regaining their strength, pro putin elements in the west would also be strengthened (think Orban and the like) and all of this is without taking China into account as they are most certainly watching to see if they can potentially get away with an invasion of Taiwan and how they should potentially go about said invasion if it were to happen.
Well I would argue that Ukraine losing stops a break up of Russia which is widely stated would be bad. The hope is for Ukraine to bloody Russia so much that it can no longer act as a military power but still take Ukraine. A pyrrhic victory. That's my opinion anyways.
Ukraine was always a buffer country. Never an ally, lucky for the West a change of government happened in 2014, since then the West has built ukraine up for the war to come, it came probably sooner than we thought, either way ukraine losing makes no difference to the west. Most other countries of importance are in NATO, so they are protected. We are prepared to pay money for Ukrainians to die for the west, just not too fast or slow, just at a speed that bleeds Russia. The west will support ukraine for a while yet, but it'll come down to money, how much are we willing to pay to keep this going, morals don't come into this and never have.
first of all the ruZZians spread this question, [and more] and idiots repeat it../ is just that ''the West'' is not one country... and western leaders are not autocrats [...the screaming majority...] so it's a slow machine when it comes to decisions../ [that's what put-in is calling ''weakness'' ] but even slow as it is, arming a Nation is not an easy, or a fast thing... especially when you're not at war already... but is happening... we all adjust!
@@eblevinda Good luck relying on NATO protection in a hybrid war. What would NATO do against some groups of pro-russian armed separatists in Poland or Baltic states? Bomb the shit out of Bialystok and Vilnius?
usa ia a money hongering country to keep the war for longer their ammunation will be sold cause ukraine will buy them, the ammunations is not going out their in the hands of ukraine soldier for free, the ammunations are being paid by the ukrainian government, likewise if the war end later then usa will be benifittted because usa will be supplying ukraine weapon, now question is why others are not helping beside usa ? maybe becasue usa would be saying that they dont want the war to escalate which other country think is right but if they dont escalate the war and end in lesser time period that wont be benificial for the usa. because once again their ammunation wont be needing them. What i think is other countries need to understand that usa is just a cash grab country and they will go any length to make their economy bigger by any means necessary
Why would anyone want an endless proxy war to end? My astonished confusion comes from people being alive during the last 30-50 years, looking at this and seeing something different than anything else that came before... Honestly the memory holing is strong, and the absolute retardation of "historians" taking a biased view in the immediate and/or re-visioning things in the moment to suit their bias. Crazy!
@@kelleychilton2524 - You mean "they could not* care less about Ukraine". And of course you're completely right, I'm not sure most Americans could place Ukraine on the map.
The further from the front a country is the less they want Ukraine to win and the more they want to punish Russia as much as possible. I'm sure the ex-Soviet or ex-Warsaw Pact countries empathize enough to prefer a strong and intact Ukraine but honestly even as close as Germany and France doesn't really care about Ukraine's state after the war and the US certainly just wants the weakest Russia possible, whatever the means.
To be fare, I'm more interested in kicking Putin thoroughly. This ultimately means a Ukrainian victory is the best bet for a thorough thrashing. But, if Ukraine could bleed Putin longer... well... good. Also, I am of the opinion that us not getting involved in Crimea was our attempt at realpolitik. And he said thanks but I'm going for more and so I'm extra inclined to make sure he remembers his blunder. Don't mistake realpolitiking with weakness. Edit: Also, I want some extra cathartic revenge for his meddling in our 2016 elections. He's got a phenomenally good miss and disinformation campaign apparatus and I only see it getting better going forward. So, to disrupt that we need him to have instability at home. This also insures continued optics showing how weak authoritarians are which can help us and Europe ablate their far right parties.
@@RaveYoda*To be fair 🤦🏼♂️ To be fare = to be food, dinner, you sound ridiculous! Didn’t bother to read the rest of your comment, your credibility is shot when you can’t even proofread the first sentence you write. SMDH.
I know. I saw one of these episodes more than a year ago but didn't realize it was part of a series until last week. So now I've watched nearly all of them lol. Awesome to see what's happening month by month.
As beneficial as the west's support has been, in unquestionable that delays and bickering over equipment have delayed Ukrainian maneuvers and hurt them in the long run. Imagine if Ukraine had gotten all the tanks they needed while the Surovikin Line was less built up? Imagine if they had gotten DCPIM munitions when Wagner was sending waves of light infantry through Bakhmut?
You have to imagine it because in the real world, only so much can be shipped and new systems learned in a given amount of time. Ship heavy tanks, then the Patriots and M777s have to wait until later.
Lmao you clearly never been in the military. You can’t just send equipment. It requires training of those equipment, then you have to be careful for we can only support in a defensive front, or it technically can be used as a reason for declaration of war.
@@cattraknoffthats a russian Desinformation Kampagne. So first of all think about it. Ukraine has no border with palastine. Every weoppen that would go above like single digets nummers would have to be Transportet trough a ship or railway system trough many countrys. Why? Why not sell it to bulgaria, romania, slowakia. There will be some small amount of korrupt trading with these countrys. Ukraine is a aktiv warzone and many people have no jobs thanks to the russians. But anything at scale would be jumped open by the international press
Oh no.. they want Russia to lose. Slowly. Painfully. They want to bleed Russia till it buckles from the inside out. LikeAfghanistan. Like how Russia has done for us in our little non wars. Like... Afghanistan. Question is what happens now with Isreal going to shit. I seriously wish Europe would get their crap together. It is literally their backyard. America has to worry about China. Europe doesn't have to worry about anyone really except Russia.
Oh no.. they want Russia to lose. Slowly. Painfully. They want to bleed Russia till it buckles from the inside out. LikeAfghanistan. Like how Russia has done for us in our little non wars. Like... Afghanistan. Question is what happens now with Isreal going to shit. I seriously wish Europe would get their crap together. It is literally their backyard. America has to worry about China. Europe doesn't have to worry about anyone really except Russia.
Oh no.. they want Russia to lose. Slowly. Painfully. They want to bleed Russia till it buckles from the inside out. LikeAfghanistan. Like how Russia has done for us in our little non wars. Like... Afghanistan. Question is what happens now with Isreal going to shit. I seriously wish Europe would get their crap together. It is literally their backyard. America has to worry about China. Europe doesn't have to worry about anyone really except Russia.
Worst case scenario for russia, they lose the kherson kharkive and zaporizia oblast. They will never lose crimea, donbass and luhansk. So in reality, even if it ends up like this, putin can still claim victory ..
You can see that this video is made for western audience. There is no word anywhere that Poland gave away about 1/3 of its equipment for free!!! Not to mention the 10 billion euros spent on helping refugees
@@michaelillingworth6433 what about the crimean kids trafficked between 99 and 04? Because that was the cause of the war of 2014 ultimately... But keep ignoring the Epstein and state dept connection, I'm sure those flags are really helping heal the trauma while they sacrifice an entire countrys young generation to sell more munitions.
How pepole have short memories... 9:10 yes and Poland pledged leopards, even without German consent, together they preasured Germany that cringed and gave in after US joined and pledged Abrams tanks. So it was Uk and Poland while the rest followed, not the other way arround. Im amazed how quickly pepole can twist facts...
I think this video shows an accurate perspective of how long it's taken the west to supply equipment when it's needed. Being an American, I'm more than a little aghast by how long it's taking us to provide the needed weapons to Ukraine. Having said that, I can only imagine the hand wringing that comes with trying to figure out what technology can be shared with a country with the fear that the technology could end up in enemy hands either willingingly or unwillingly. Many of our weapons also require a long supply chain that's hard to maintain by other countries. Also, we're trying to figure out how to maintain enough inventory in case a second conflict in the world breaks out. Happy to see the F16s going over to Ukraine. What I think we should also do is start building factories in the U.S. to mass produce all different types of loitering munitions (thousands per month) and supply those to Ukraine. We desperately need that level of production in place anyways for other future conflicts.
@@TheRealDrJoey NATO precipitating this is a crock of shit. If you were in an Eastern European Country, would you want to join the wealth and Markets available in the EU, or would you want to join a shitty Russian led Bloc, especially when Russia is so large as an individual Nation, it actually needs nothing you produce? And Putin personally has invaded Georgia, South Ossetia, Chechnya and Crimea. Hungary, Slovakia and the Czech Republic all have people alive today who remember Soviet Invasions during uprisings of the 50's and 60's. NATO causing this is a fantasy only even considered in America, because Europe is too close to the Past.
@mjk Good point about the loitering munitions. Another thing to consider is the USA's Exports. The USA's single biggest Exports are Petroleum Products and now LNG, and before this War you barely exported LNG. I've recently been in Europe. Everyone is considering what support might make Putin use a Nuke, so everything supplied to Ukraine has to be considered. But Corporations in America are making huge Profits the longer this War goes on. And while individual consumers hate paying more for 'Gas', your Government gets a percentage of that as a Tax for Road Repair, yes? America's Economy grew at 2.0% 1st quarter this year, and 2.1% last quarter. Make no mistake, high Oil prices are helping some segments of your economy. I honestly do not believe this is why America has not gone all in - But never forget, in times of Flux, there's always someone still winning. And the Boards of Chevron and ExxonMobil have a lot more ability to whisper into Congressional Earholes than a few Ukrainian Refugees do. It's not THE reason, but it's a reason. Another thing is - The Invasion of Afghanistan cost America's Federal Budget more than double that of all the Aid given to Ukraine so far, in terms of the percentage of the Budget. And Afghanistan diminished neither Russia or China. For half that cost the USA is crippling Russia for a generation. And China is realising it could not withstand these Sanctions. And so far, NATO hasn't committed a single Soldier. That's got to make a lot of other Countries what the hell happens when you do. Again, not THE reason, but a reason.
I wish they had been delivered 6 months ago when they would have made a difference. The Russian minefields and fortifications so mature now that maneuver war is impossible. The onset of the mud season will compound this. I sincerely hope I am wrong.
Perun has an AMAZING channel. He knows how to break down the money trail, for sure. He was showing serial numbers of artillery shells we gave Ukraine from Vietnam era. Media was sure we were giving up all our newest and shiniest things.
Avoiding escalation is all about nukes. If it wasn't for those, Ukraine would have gotten intervening forces to help kick the Russians out from the start.
@@johanmetreus1268 partially agree, but I wasn't talking sending troops. They are not gonna use nukes, to use nukes one needs balls. It is for that reason of not having those they pick up fights with those far below their weight still claiming they "fight NATO". Countless times have they threatened "if the West/Ukraine does X - its a red line for us", then X happens and nothing. They bluff
@@sjonnieplayfull5859 What does he even gain if he pushes the button? A global catastrophy that the human race will never recover from? What's the point?
Everybody talks about oh this proves the Russian army isn’t that strong like they didn’t invade Finland before the second world war to the same result as what’s happening right now, and the only thing that they did was allow them to modernize and reform the Russian army into a force that could take a punch from the Wehrmacht. There’s so many similarities actually, including the Russian military political instability that, as well as a surge in China makes the world look like 1930 more and more every day
The goal of the West is to weaken Russia and maintain America's position as the world's sole super power. A long drawn out war serves this interest well as Russia will burn through its blood, weapons, and treasure for little strategic gain. When Ukraine is destroyed America will allow Russia to rule over its ruins. It will cost too much to rebuild Ukraine. Let Russia bankrupt itself in rebuilding.
Most Nato leaders certainly do NOT want Russia to win a complete victory. That has a lot of consequences that would be really bad for Nato countries, and to some extent the rest of the world. But from a realpolitik point of view, there is not a lot to be gained for Nato countries from assisting Ukraine in crushing Russia on the battlefield. Not only does that come at an economic cost that is difficult to justify to their own populations, it also comes with a risk of destabilizing the global military landscape. Realistically, there are no easy ends to this war as long as both the Ukrainian and Russian populations remain willing to continue the fight. Nato will provide enough equipment to make sure Kiev stays Ukrainian, but willingess to provide enough for Ukraine to maintain an advantage is far less certain. If Ukraine fights with the determination that Afghanistan has (against both the USSR and the US), I believe most of your territories will be returned. If the opposite is true, the border may end up being the Dnipr river.
They don’t want Ukraine to win (though defining that may be hard). But they don’t want Ukraine to lose. Ukraine is a pawn, and this is the reality of geopolitics. “The strong do what they will, and the weak suffer what they must.”
Heeyy brother! I rarely comment on your channel simply because, i press the like button but also because history is quite fascinating and I truly enjoy your content. All of your "ancient wars" vids should I say because I always find channels on here to be biased when it comes to this current conflict (not even gonna start with the middle east one) And tbf to see you start questioning the narrative is somewhat reassuring. I'm not totally insane yet 😂🙏
@@KingsandGenerals not exactly what I meant, what I mean (I'm not sure why I have to explain this) is that pushing one or the other narrative is biased. I'm not one for debates, just pointing out that questioning what we are being told is something we should all do and im glad you are doing it. Not sure why you feel this way brother. I wasn't attacking you or anyone else. Edit: I will refrain from commenting again. Hope y'all have a good day.
You should do a video talking about how the donations of weapons to Ukraine from the United States have stimulated the US’s weapons industry dramatically; like when Ukraine received HIMARS, and after the world saw how effective they were, Poland alone ordered 500 HIMARS for their own army. Basically, Ukraine is the ultimate weapons advertisement show, as live combat is showing the quality of US weapons and therefore generating huge revenue for the US. Not to mention that the US is, by proxy of Ukraine, dismembering the Russian military at no human life cost to themselves; Aka an excellent deal for the US. This is important, since the U.S. is the most important ally to Ukraine and with the slow increase in support for ending Ukraine support, the Americans really need to see why it’s in their own interest to keep up support.
Yes and all those profits go to the rich and in no way shape or form help us or the world to make it any better. We're getting a great price for killing humans yes you're right about that.
Are you seriously supporting the military industriL complex? I can't believe you consider it a good thing to sacrifice an entire countrys young generation just so some americans have more blood money. And then they wonder why the west is hated and white people are seen as brutes in powdered wigs... Could you all stop destroying countries for once?
@@adamcuneo7189 I would say this alone encapsulates what the main issue with U.S. involvement in the Ukraine war is; A priority problem. What do the American *people* have to gain from (best case scenario) Russia meeting Ukraine at their "cede no land" policy criteria? There's only so much we can do for another country's people (even if they were HISTORICAL allies, unlike Ukraine) while costing our own people their purchasing power and the ability to pay for fuel, utilities, food, or a home, much more the struggles of our more impoverished side of the socioeconomic spectrum. Keep our hands out of Ukraine and keep our hands from going further into the Israel-Palestine pot. Right now is the time for a temporary national focus at the very least.
@@adamcuneo7189- Keep in mind a lot of the material we have sent Ukraine was scheduled for decommissioning/ disposal. When I was active duty in 1980s, use to be tasked with taking production lots of artillery shells from 1950-70s and expended them at the range to verify viability. The first lots of ammunition and anti amour rockets we sent Ukraine were probably stocks that we the tax payers had bought and stored years ago and were due to be disposed of in the upcoming years. M113 armored personnel carriers were obsolete, the tracked HIMARS launchers were also on the way out of inventory. Keep in mind that for every Russian tank Ukraine destroys, that one less tank the US Army has to build. At the rate Russia is loosing military aircraft, the USAF may not need as many combat aircraft. Not to mention, US military contractors are getting additional orders from other countries which keeps production lines going and allows US taxpayers to save by lowering overall equipment costs. Doubt the total cost of aid to Ukraine has exceeded the cost of a few new USN destroyers which pencil out at $1.2bn. PS - Agree that USA is spending too much but Ukraine is cheap insurance
Very good question. If only the US had sent Ukraine fighters jets, as quickly as it has sent them to Israel, due to the Hamas terrorist attack this past week.
Israel is very different because… 1.Israel already has modern fighter jets. 2. Has been an rather strong ally of the United States for the past 50ish years. 3. Is not fighting a nuclear power. In fact, Israel is fighting an enemy (Hamas) that doesn’t have the capability to have air defenses or good relations with the other country it borders- that being Egypt.
If West did not want Ukraine to win? Best thing would be to do nothing! Doing nothing costs West 0 dollars and requires for them to not lift a finger! But instead West took millions and millions of Ukrainian refugees (my family also houses and gives work to one family and their friends) and sent billions on top of billions of dollars of aid in humanitarian and lethal aid to Ukraine, many Western volunteers also went to help in humanitarian and military efforts, West also trains tens of thousands of Ukrainian soldiers (I saw a team of them being trained to operate Leopards in my brigade during my service), made Russia the most sanctioned country on the planet and provides intelligence for Ukraine! These are the things I know about! Who knows what other forms of aid are provided! Everything short of full military intervention have been provided for Ukraine! It shows in results too! Russias "military operation" narrative is crushed in all but Putins fantasy world! Russia lost its claims near Kyiv, lost claims near Kharkiv, lost Kherson and claims North of it and are now slowly but surely losing the defense line they prepared a year preparing in the Southern part of occupied zones! Russia is begging countries like North Korea, Iran and China for aid in stuff as basic as artillery shells! One would think Russia would prepare a massive stockpile of those if the plan was for an extended war! Ukraine did not have the luxury of preparing for this war! Ukraine was a poor country with not enough money to prepare for a large conventional war! Russia has been running the war largely with pre-war stocks! They have not yet had to start crafting and paying for everything from small arms ammunition to Jets! The war has been following this trend of Russian strenght slowly diminishing and their claims in Ukraine being taken away despite their best efforts to resist! Meanwhile Ukraine has only grown in strenght! I do not see how Ukraine could lose the war at this point! The fighting is on a way smaller frontline, Russian professional army got mauled before Ukraine even had modern tanks or HIMARS, initiative is firmly in Ukraines grasp and they are advancing daily! Something extremely dramatic would have to happen if Russia would ever even be able to reverse the tide of this war!
@@Avinashm7 How could they not win? Ukrainian army is stronger at this point! We have seen the effects of that in Kharkiv and Kherson! Wagner was the only one able to fight them but now Wagner is gone
yes, Ukraine will not lost war already, thats 100%, but neither won it.... if we not gain control of our part of Black Sea, our economy is fucked in future.. and many more Sending 8-16 Himars, or 14 tanks for 1000km active frontline and more than 2000km other front lines with hostile neighbors do you think is enough? Yes, we are thankful for every help, but how would you feel when your house in on fire and you know that your neighbor have fire hydrant but giving you only couple buckets of water to contain this fire from destroying your house? Thats basically how I feel about western help Sanctions: Kyrgyzstan receiving imports from Germany Grew x3 from 2021 level, I wander why and export to Russia Grew x3, interesting, right? (thats only one example how those sanctions work) and do you think Germany doesn't know about it? :)
@@yuriyseliuk4120 Its hard to say how the war will end because its war and unpredictable! Anything could happen! But if this current trend continues like it most likely will if not tipping to being more favorable for Ukraine? Ukraine will 100% survive and will 100% WIN! Win as in FORCE Russians out of the country or force them to die! Ukraine already has access to Black Sea through Odesa and is making daily progress towards Sea of Azov! If that advance continues? They will eventually reach the shore and cut off any railway to the Southern part of the front! Russia already stopped using commercial ships to supply the Southern part of occupied zones due to one of them being struck by drone boats and put out of service! Kerch bridge is damaged as we speak by missiles and drone boats including the railway on it and will likely be damaged further in the future! Only reliable way to supply the South aka. Any claims of Russia that have shoreline with Black Sea? Is through railways going through the region that Ukraine is constantly advancing in with the specific goal in mind to cut those railways! Sending 8-16 HIMARS had enough effect to make Russians stop concentrating ammunition stockpiles after dozens of them got blown up which makes it harder to supply big artillery concentrations! Might be thats part of the reason that Russians use 1/4th of the artillery they used to use in first year of the war, made Russians move their airforce back after multiple airfields got hit and many planes got destroyed on the ground and destroyed many Russian command posts forcing them to be moved further back! Even that does not seem to be enough now that Ukraine has Storm shadow missiles! Recently a command post in Sevastopol got hit resulting in death or wounding of 30 Russian commanders! Even if Russian Admiral survived? Thats still 30 commanders killed or wounded! Russians are not safe anywhere in the occupied zones! West has provided way more than 14 tanks at this point! Maybe 14 of the most modern and most famous have been provided like Leopards, Challengers or M1 Abrams! But hundreds on top of hundreds of tanks that Ukraine knows how to operate without training from the West has been provided! America and Britain toured countries that had old Soviet tanks and purchased them to send to Ukraine! They went to Africa, Middle East, Balkans and likely many others to buy their Soviet stocks so they could help Ukraine to get weapons they knew how to use! Its only recently when Ukrainians have been trained to use Western tanks that Western tanks are starting to be provided! While that number is not enough? Ukraine is receiving more and more and more all the time! Thats the miracle of being supported by more than 45 countries including top countries like US, Germany, Britain, France, Poland and many others! I would feel awful if my house is on fire and my neighbor has a hydrant but gives just a couple buckets! But right now those couple buckets are what is not only containing the fire but slowly extinguishing it! Those couple buckets are what Ukraine itself has asked for and what they have used to so far not only survive but turn the tide of the fight! More could always be sent but you gotta understand that Ukraine is not in NATO! Ukraine is not in EU! All of this aid is being given to a country that others have no obligation to help! How would you feel if you are asked out of nowhere to give alot of your stuff to a country that you got no pre-existing deals to help? All of this aid is being given largely based on what Ukraine has asked for! And so far? It has been extremely effective! Sanctions to Russia are focused on harming its war industry and economy by preventing them access to items such as microchips used to craft weapons such as missiles and military grade computers! In November 21st 2022 a single US dollar was worth 59 Russian Rubles! Just recently in beginning if October 2023? Russian ruble broke the 100 mark! One US dollar is now worth over 100 rubles and the trend has continued constantly with little change since 2022! Exports to Russia might grow! But it will difficult for them to have a long term war if they are not able to design new weapons in large enough scale to defeat the weapons provided to Ukraine by most of the worlds leading military powers! Especially if their currency is constantly losing value! No sanction is gonna topple a country! Just look at North Korea! But what sanctions do is take certain options from the table from a country! Say Russia not being able to wage a war that costs them by some estimates 1 billion US dollars every day! Imagine that in rubles! Not being able to uphold a military large enough to defeat or even resist a country supported by half the damn globe while manufacturing weapons of its own after pre-war stocks uninevitably run out! Russia is a massive country with a massive army! That will have its effects! Survival of Ukraine from the first year of war is a miracle in itself! That was back when the sheer scale of foreign aid had least effect because it did not yet get to speed! Now that aid is in motion, West is focused on the situation and Ukraine is armed to the teeth! There is no realistic way in which Russia is able to sustain fighting this violent and expensive while large part of their war chest was captured and frozen in first day of the war in foreign banks, large part of the professional army they had was destroyed and pushed back without any realistic advantages for long term war being gained and now large part of the pre-war equipment either having been destroyed, used or captured by Ukraine! The longer this war goes on? More blood Russia will have to bleed! More money they have to expend in increasing amounts due to inflation and more stronger Ukraine gets! I have paid attention to this war since the first day and it has been continuous trend of Ukraine getting stronger and smarter while Russia gets weaker in comparison and seems to not learn from their mistakes! War will not end soon purely because of the fact that Russia had a large army with deep pockets when it comes to equipment! But it will only get more painful to them from this point! There is two ways Russia would not lose! Either Ukrainian resolve breaks? Or then Russia uses nukes! First seems impossible since a Gallup done in October 2022 says that over 91% of Ukrainians want to fight until all occupied territories including Crimea are reclaimed and Russia is DEFEATED! 26% say they want Ukraine to take back its land including Crimea and then negotiate with Russia! Less than 10% seems interested in any ending that seems to favor Russia! This can change of course but so far Ukrainians are putting up a fight that is pushing the Russians back daily! As far as Ukrainians economy goes? Its fucked! Absolutely! But its best to be fucked economically rather than physically by an occupier! Ukraine will be rebuilt in any case! Most likely with massive amounts of funding from around the world! This war is without a doubt the most broadcasted and most one sided when it comes to narrative! Even Russias allys are hesitant to take Russias side because of how bastardly the Russians have conducted themselves! Especially after mass graves and proof of mistreatment of civilians and POWs have been discovered and videos of those events have been recorded by Russian soldiers themselves! Russia is the number 1 enemy in the world right now! Hence why they are the most sanctioned and why so many are supporting Ukraine
@@yuriyseliuk4120 1. Countries look out for their own interests. 2.Ukraine is not receiving help out of kindness. 3.Suing some Eastern European countries over grain is a bad idea if you want their support. 4. The rhetoric of some Ukrainian officials is infuriating. It’s like they expect an obligation or something.
Ukrainians were very peaceful people before 2022. We believed if we wouldn't threaten anyone, no one would threaten us. Even after 2014 most of the society couldn't believe Putin would start the war (including me). Indeed, why would anyone want to start the war? In 1994 we gave up the third in the world nuclear arsenal in exchange of vague promises of help and support. Again, we were pacifists. Almost no one could believe our "brothers" would want to attack us. The few "believers" were considered freaks. Several years later Russia has bought up many our weapons as energy debts repayments. Some of the missiles we are currently bombarded with were in fact sold to Russia by Ukraine. In addition to this, after 2014 there were mysterious fires in the ammunition depots in Ukraine... Next, according to the Minsk Treaty we were not allowed to buy weapons, while Russia was buying high tech weapons components in western countries (like tank sights from France) through corruption schemes. And still most of us remained pacifists. One of the reasons Zelensky was elected was his promise to end the war in Donbass (created and sponsored by Russia) by coming to an agreement with Putin. It turned out that the terms of the agreement were to give autonomy to the Donbass region and in this way to give them legal rights to influence all Ukrainian political decisions. That was unacceptable, so the war started. Yes, now we are beggars and our pacifistic illusions cost us dearly. P.S. Buying up our weapons is not the only way Russia was preparing for the attack. The other ways include propaganda, bribing and recruiting of politicians, officials and defence plants directors (Motor Sich Plant), bloggers and mass media. "Svoboda" political party considered as radical nationalists was sponsored by Russia. It's goal was "rocking the boat" of the Ukrainian society. However , it didn't have much support and after rising the entry barrier in 2014 didn't enter the parliament. That was almost a miracle we were able to withstand the attack in the first months of the war. As someone said "There should be movies about our resistance. People cut down trees to block roads, set tank columns on fire, chased runaway occupants in forests. Young guys, men, grandpas..."
Its unfair to call them beggars. We have to worry about where the money comes from the ukranians have to worry avout the continuation of their country.
Actually, the answer to this question is easier than it seems: the Russian military budget for the year 2024 is about $110 billion USD. Are Ukraine's Western allies willing to pledge at least an equivalent amount in support? So far, it doesn't look like it.
An obvious reason (that is far too often, and perhaps systematically overlooked) for Ukraines allies to want to draw out this, and actually most conflicts, is that it is good for the shareholders.
15:22 "Any instability in Russia carries a threat of nuclear weapons going loose" - No, the OPPOSITE happened in the USSR breakup. The countries which left the USSR didn't want to be nuclear. The US made sure the weapons were given to the ONLY dangerous one. The one that said to President Clinton "Just give Europe to Russia" WHILE DEMANDING THE WEAPONS! "P562 Declassified Documents Concerning Russian President Boris Yeltsin · Clinton Digital Library"
They do, but the EU lacks courage, it's also compromised by Turkey and Hungary. I think the question is, does the EU have the will and the commitment to win, they've dropped the ball badly so far. I'm Australian and without the US, who probably shouldn't need to get so involved, Ukraine would have fallen already.
And guess what? 80 years of US presence in Europe and EU's dependence on it, is the reason EU lacks courage. We should've kicked the subversive non-European state out of Europe the moment the Soviet threat ceased to exist. Without the US, I very much doubt Russia would've ever even felt the need to invade Ukraine.
only if the valuation is taken as it's original cost, rather than its current depreciated value. Many of the materiel sent was destined for the scrap heap anyway, so the cost is negligible
Great video covering the topic and the real issues involved! Too many take a simplistic analysis rather than actually addressing the issues. The primary question is what does victory look like in this war? For Ukraine, the answer is a total victory over Russia, retaking all their territories. For the West, the answer is undefined. Biden for example has given nebulous statements for what is a victory. If we consider the situation at the beginning of the war, the fact that Ukraine survived as a state and has pushed Russia back to the eastern part of the country would be considered as a massive victory. If we consider the current status quo and consider Ukraine to be a military and economic equal to Russia, then victory look more like kicking Russia out completely. The Ukrainian offensive has shown that for a total territorial victory is unlikely in the short term. Either the West will have to significantly increase aid to Ukraine for the long term, negotiate a long term settlement, or negotiate a ceasefire, turning it into a frozen conflict. There is a real risk of escalation in this conflict, even if you think it’s a small risk it’s one the West has to navigate. The last big issue is the US needs to pivot to deterring war between China and Taiwan.
If US stops being committed to helping stop war in Europe it can forgot about Europe participating in an armed conflict between the US and China over Taiwan
The surprised from all the us weapons, training and equipment from 2014 til now is gone, from Russia's full retreat to 1/4 of the country's land taken and fortified it is now a ucran meat grinder, seeing now all the new Russian drone footage kamikaze bombing tired and unresponsive german sol... I mean ucrainain soldiers, really showcase the massive failed offensive to win back a surrounded town. There is no victory for ucran, can't wait for them to pay back all the bills and that joo to run back to Israel with a shittruck of money.
China is dependant on importing it's energy and food. Over 80% is via shipping that goes past Western ally nations. The West including the Philippines, Japan, Australia, the US can shut down imports into China and grind it to a halt and send it back a decade without firing a drone. I expect that this would lead to Chinese retaliation which would cause insurance for shipping goods to become so expensive few ships would sail to China even without the blockade. Taiwan is harder to invade than the UK. No nation other than the US is capable of invading the UK so the idea that Taiwan is incredibly vulnerable isn't true if we are willing to commit to its defence and to blockading ships inbound to China. We don't need to pivot to Asia. China is collapsing and it's population is set to halve this century and it's economy is dealing with massive debt and citizens who don't trust their government.
Not sure why the US will not give Ukraine the M1128 Mobile Gun System. That is basically a Stryker with a turret that has a 105mm gun. The US Army has turned them all in and they will be replaced with the new M10 light tank. The US Army had 142 of the M1128 which have , I assume been put into storage. The US military will never use these mobile gun systems - so I do not see why they can’t be given to Ukraine - the storing of these items just costs the US money. These are not a tank replacement but they are good at attacking bunkers which is just what they have to do to retake the parts of Ukraine that Russia is occupying.
Do not make the same mistake of overestimating leadership that we did for putin. just like many people thought putin was this brilliant mastermind who always had a deeper plan and every apparent defeat was part of a calculated gamble, no, he's a megalomaniac old dude who thought nobody would dare stand up to the russian army. in the same way, our leaders are unlikely to be brilliant geniuses that could get ukraine to win, but choose not to because of some cold calculus. no, they got in charge through a popularity contest where the winner is the one who can pin more screw-ups on his rivals than his rivals can pin on him. they want to keep their advantage in this popularity contest by appeasing different sides of the electorate. many of them are out of their depths and afraid. many simply have no balls, no spine; having a spine push you to take risks, if you risk you will screw up sometimes, and it will be used by your opponents against you. if you risked three times, and twice it paid off, and once it went poorly, it may be good for the country, but for your popularity it will be a net loss. our leaders don't have a grand master plan to bleed russia as much as possible by fine-tuning the help to ukraie to just enough that russia can keep fighting if it makes more sacrifices. no, they are acommittee of scared, confused men who are trying to minimize their potential losses.
We should never have got involved. I don't know what it is about the UK, some kind of determination to be relevant since the collapse of the Empire, but it seems like there's not a conflict going in which we don't have to prance about onstage internationally flinging money and resources we don't possess about. And it wouldn't be so bad if we weren't bankrupting ourselves paying back debt interest, everything crumbling, nothing working, etc.
the US hasn't directly aided a belligerent against russia since Afghanistan and then it was just stinger missiles and little more so as to mitigate directly antagonizing a nuclear rival. what aid has been given by the US is frankly astonishing in speed and generosity relative to history. viewing the aid relative to Ukraine's stated needs is the wrong way to view this and sets an expectation that is unrealistic when considered next to past instances of US direct military aid to foreign countries, short of "lend-lease" that is, and the current conflict is not on the scale of ww2 presently. the US has never stated it would provide an entire military for ukraine, it's foolish to expect it, and its foolish for the US citizenry to allow it. for its not on America's doorstep Russia lands on if Ukraine falls. ergo the European nations that barely or not at all met their UN military contribution percentages have to show some personal fortitude and make a decision to ensure Ukraine repels russia or let their borders be the next to be infringed upon. distaste for conflict does not absolve the possibility of conflict coming to you. this is not a case of "passing the buck" as it is reasonably dubious as to the "buck" being the responsibility of the US to begin with. frankly; the russian incursion into ukraine is the fault of russian backwardsness and almost equally the fault of Russia's western neighbors to form a better diplomatic relationship with russia after the fall of the USSR. this was foolish on a monumental level.
The Russian incursion is the fault of US mindlessly pushing for more NATO expansion regardless of the Russian threats and regardless of the consequences. If we had kicked NATO out and built a European alternative that truly drove the collective European interests, I very much doubt any of this would've happened. It was the US that saw cooperating Europe as a threat to their own great power influence over Europe.
To anyone casually watching from the west: with respect, it's not a gift. Ukrainians pay with their lives to stop Russian expansion and limit Russian influence
I think the main problem is, that without a massive reduction of Russia's military arsenal a possible end of their colonial empire will lead to a very dangerous situation there. Especially because of the large nuclear arsenal, which may be used to gain territory from the follow-up nations.
They already lost their empire when regions the size of EU declared their independence, and Warsaw pact ceased to exist. Now the only one creating an empire is the US, with their proxies all over the world, including Europe.
@@goldbullet50 You may have seen under the last US adminstration that Europe isn't an US proxy at all. Only the renewed fascist threat in Europe has revived the "braindead" NATO. Todays Imperium of Russia maybe split. That's actually a dangerous development, for the reasons mentioned above. Europe isn't as united in it's goals as you do describe in addition, and decision making is slow. At least all 53 member nations of the European Council have made clear that Munich' 38 won't be repeated. An important step.
@@goldbullet50 by having military bases to station 100-1000 troops in random countries across the world for.. little to no reason sometimes, is definetly not how empires were forged. Trust me, the era of empires is long gone. Empires used to manage thanks to their ability to do mini-genocides , the inability of others to learn about it and the lack of humanity from the world to care about it even if they knew. Revolts were happening in empires all the time, but they were getting BRUTALLY crushed. In a way that if it is done today, the world is gonna be mad at you. Look at israel for example. A little strip of land by terrorists, and they can't shake them off becouse they hide behind civilians. Back in the true era of empires, this wouldn't matter... they would butcher them all. And by butcher them, i don't mean 5-10k dead in a 2m population. i mean 90% of the population.. POOF gone.
@@goldbullet50 they have as big an empire as they are able to, with Belarussia as a thrall state. They've also invaded Georgia, and now this latest effort in Ukraine seeks to put them under the russian boot. Putin is attempting (albeit incompetently and barbarically) to recreate a dead empire
@@stonem0013 Are they though? Is there any actual evidence of any empire rebuilding operation? Can't countries have a war with their neighbors WITHOUT trying to build an empire?
Sometimes i do ask myself the same. Does europe really want ukraine to win? Im hopefull it does. But the dark thought crosses my mind regularly these days. Could it be that nato just want ukraine to keep up the fight at the lowest cost possible to bleed out the russians long term? Just giving them enought to not break, but also not win. Making the war just bloodier. Trading ukrainian citizens willingly for russians.
ukraine produces so much grain for the world. purely based on that fact i think the west would rather ukraine stay its own nation and not under russian control. russia already controls large oil and gas reserves so imagine the power they'd have with all that grain
There is another major factor regarding the west's support of Ukraine that ties into the focus on China: India. The west is trying to avoid antagonizing India to obtain their help against China, but India is an ally of Russia, so directly aiding a belligerent of Russia must be done carefully.
They are not an ally, but rather partners, and not equals at that. At the moment, India is taking an advantage over Russia in oil prices under sanctions.
Why should others be heavily funding a country not part of Nato ? spending incredible ammounts over a war that has nothing to do with them ? Intervention in lots of other conflicts are mute .. but somehow this one is special ...
American aid to Ukraine is 3.5% of the defense budget and 3/10 of one percent of the total budget It would finance the government for 27 minutes This alone has destroyed over 50% of Russia's army and made the world a safer place
This might sound like a silly reason but there is the possibility that individual US military branches don't want to give up their equipment or miss training quotes. This conflict has also exposed how behind US arms production is since the cold war
@@adamhbrennanI think they meant that our ability to convert to a total war economy is severely diminished as opposed to the days of old. Our manufacturing base isn’t what it used to be. In WW2 you could take a tractor company and have them start producing state of the art semiautomatic rifles. Hell, even in the 90’s when one of the gulf wars started, the military had an old artillery barrel turned into a bomb, shipped halfway across the planet, and dropped onto its target in like two weeks. Our military industrial complex is indeed bloated, but that bloat is exactly why we won’t be efficient.
Good morning. I would like to know your general analysis on what impact Ukraine making weapons with the US will be. It's a recent development, but I think it's important. Thanks.
To people talking about how the west is failing it’s important to keep things in context. Compare it to WW2, where Hitler was free to rampage until 1939, even then France and Britain did very little to stop Germany even when they had a perfect opportunity to make a difference. It took the US another 2 years to get involved and plenty of nations like Sweden and Turkey stayed neutral to the end. Compare that to Ukraine, when aid started on day 1. The EU cut off Russian gas within a year and the military aid being sent every month is only getting more advanced. I know it’s falling short of what a lot of people want but historically speaking, we are improving from our history, not failing
Well said sir! What do these fools want, us to abandon our allies, while allowing fool regimes to run wild? Sooner or later those wackos will affect us in some way, it's always easier to fight on the front foot.
@@somebody2344 Germany cut off Russia gas which used to make up 40% of its energy supply. They’ve been sending a lot of aid lately too. More even than the US in some aid packages. United 24 made a post on it
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They do but basically Western countries tend to be apprehensive about aid to Ukraine,Americans for example modified HIMARS missiles so they wouldn't strike deep into Russian territory.
Just imagine of a western made system would strike a russian nuclear weapons site? Like a nuclear ICBM silo or a radar system vital to russian early warning systems? That's a big no-no.
yes the west is like this one chick you had in highschool, who was a slut but she didn't want to end her relationship and be called a slut. So instead of fucking with others, she was just sucking everyone's dick but always refused to go further cus "she has a boyfriend". That's the west right now. We want to hurt you russia but.. just a little, not all the way.
No, the west want to pin Russia down next to their doorstep just like western geopolitics in supporting Israel to pin down Arab countries and Iranian theocratic regime or with Taiwan and China situation. It's really clever honestly.
I trained with the M60 tank. The U.S should have at least given some of the most advanced M60 tanks. They would have been quite useful. The Kremlin will always threatened and try to manipulate with fear.
IIRC, the US no longer has stocks of Pattons. Present stocks of Pattons are mostly in Turkey in the form of the Sabra. For various reasons involving Greece and Turkey death staring each other, those are simply not up for donation.
@@eggtarts286 There's a lot of them still in service in Saudi Arabia, Taiwan, and Egypt (the three largest operators aside from Turkey). The US still uses the chassis in a specialized support role, there are several hundred being used as bridge-launching vehicles (M60 AVLB), though even those are being phased out gradually.
To bounce off of what the others have said, the U.S. doesn't hoard tanks to the degree that Russia does. We have more than enough Abrams. The older models can, relatively easily enough, be upgraded to modern standards as needed.
Excellent coverage overall ... a couple of tweaks... 16:19 Arestovych "30 Kadryovs" - does Arestovych want to keep Putin in power, as this suggests? What is the context of this quote? 16:56 "The legitimacy of Putin’s power relies on stability, decent living standards" - ONLY IN MOSCOW AND ST PETERSBURG - 25% of Russians don't have indoor plumbing, most have only enough money for food and clothes (as you illustrate in the next frame - that is not recent. 18:04 Russia’s influence has intensified politically in may countries, not waned. And, if Russia is weakened, how is Putin going to stay in power?
It is not the west’s responsibility to support Ukraine. ANY AID that is given is already more than what is owed. It astonishes me that Ukraine is chastising anyone about not giving enough charity.
@@saldownik thing is, there will always be a "world policeman" as power vacuum is never left empty for long. Question is: do you want it to be USA or China?
We keep expecting Russia to react logically and come to terms. That is stupid. Russia will never do that. Russia is already falling apart, we need to support Ukraine and help them WIN, not drag things out because we lack resolve and lack a spine or a coherent strategy. The faster Ukraine wins, the faster we can face China and only China
Complex topic, and I don't think there's one answer to the title question. But even at the start I noticed a certain kind of narrative from the naturally worked up Ukrainian diplomat in my country that I thought was a bit unfortunate. I won't get into details, but there are narratives that I'm convinced work, and others less so. You might think that childishness can't possibly have any bearing on such a grave concern, but you'd be wrong. I think Ukraine should repress any hint of being entitled or miffed, even if they have that right in many ways (EG the 94 denuclearization treaty). Better then to help the west come to the realization "by itself" that it has little choice and that Ukraine holding the russians was a gift that is returned simply by it aligning with western interests. russia (no typo) was already a problem before the invasion. A lot of movers and shakers know these things of course, but alas we're thankfully not living in autocracies. Every decision is bound to be a bumpy road, even the most obvious ones, even on a national level as we all probably know. But on the new state budget in my country, Ukraine is closing in on the budget size for the entire social sector, so that's not nothing. We wouldn't have budgeted like this if the west was planning on abandoning Ukraine. Slava.
This war is an economic boon, except for Russia. America gets to sell old stock at inflated prices on credit that will have to be paid back for tens of decades. All that while funding and budgeting a whole new series of stockpile developments. Other countries like Poland are buying anything America says will work. With all the global economy failing how wouldnt war help?
Ukraine have mostly diesel trains Ivan for those military transportations, electrical maybe for civilians usage transfers between cities (so called electrichka)
Russia's primary objective is to secure Crimea by controlling the eastern bank of the zaporizhzhia river and control the banks of the sea of Azov securing their only warm water port. Anything more than that is simply icing on the cake and additional bargaining
That's not true, what was the whole battle of Kyiv and Kharkiv for then a distraction? Kyiv and Kharkiv are no where near the sea but Russia tried to take it anyway. And if it was a distraction what was a poorly planned one that caused the death of tens of thousands of troops and material.
@@Blub_525Yep thousands of some of the best trained and elite soldiers too. Russia is doing a big brained move wasting away their elite VDV Paratroopers. You have to laugh at all these pro Gremlin supporters.
Your argument can be continued endlessly: War 1 - Russia simply wants to get strategic Crimea. War 2 - Russia simply wants a land corridor to Crimea. War 3 - Russia simply wants to protect the land corridor to Crimea by protecting it with a buffer territory. War 4 - Russia simply wants to bring the border to the eastern bank of the Dnieper. War 5 - Russia simply wants to secure the space between NATO and its border. Russia had Crimea in its hands and nothing threatened it.
@@Blub_525 again, Russia will push as far west as possible up to and including complete control of Ukraine. But as mentioned above any gains beyond the primary objectives I've outlined are simply bargaining tools meant to be used to codify the primary gains.
Before the invasion there was nothing special about Ukraine or Zelensky, not an expert but I believe the country was looked upon unfavorably because of rather hefty amount of ethnic based nationalism and the integration of former neo-Nazi groups into its military. Ukraine's current popularity could be looked upon as enemy of our enemy is a friend of convenience. Russia is worse so Ukraine is considered positive only in relation to Putin's Russia. With that in mind one can imagine that just enough aid being sent to bleed Russia dry. In addition one cannot give Ukraine enough aid to outright win. Russia needs to be bled badly enough that Putin is removed internally and Russia decides to end the war. One does not push a nuclear power into a corner.
Im for continuing support for Ukraine. I understand its criticism however of western countries concerned about their own stockpiles and amount of money it is costing. But if Russia is to conquer Ukraine or at least part of it it's basically guaranteed that Russia will continue its agreesion towards its neighbors either way. This is the west's chance to significantly weaken a geopolitical rivial while insuring new allies at the same time.
Russia clearly only wants a small portion of Ukrain to have port access. They have it. Any means of prolonging the war from the Ukrainians is futile and only brings more death to their people; I dont know why you'd want that for Ukraine. Ukraine should surrender and make a deal to keep what land and sovereignty they have left. There's no evidece to prove that Putin in Russia wants any more land grab than he already has and it honestly doesn't make sence for him to want that.
I don't care. I'm tired of my country pouring billions upon billions of dollars into some eastern European country that has no previous relationship to my country apart from sending gold digging mail order brides.
@@ulrichleukam1068 Because top brass of Russian Federation want their Russian Empire back, with all territories included. Because Putin toting himself as another "great leader" aka conqueror of everything. It is all over russian propaganda.
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Ukraine needs more troops more than anything. They should at best sue for peace.
Russia has secured the land bridge across the Donbas and is in full possesion and control of the area and the Crimea. It is over my friend Ukraine lost and now we have Israel. Speaking of that they have world class intelligence and arms, the iron dome and the IDF. It is almost like they let it happen. Geopolitics the ultimate chessboard!
@KingsandGenerals… American developed M142 HIMARS is pronounced (hi-mars), not (he-mars).
Ukraine faces the IT junior dilemma.
You need the entry-level position(western arms) to get 5 years experience(success on the battlefield), but you need 5 years of experience before they'll give you the entry-level position ...
that's so true for so many jobs right now.
Those who support Ukrainian deaths, and Russian deaths aswell, will have no problem turning on you when the same government demands it. So everyone keep cheering for ukrainy until you get sent to the front line yourself to die in the dirt for NOTHING but bankers money and psychopath politicians :)
Haha exactly
not really, thats bad comparison. for example, many Western military "experts" were saying that patriot system is too complicated for Ukrainians and they gonna need years to learn how to use it. but in the same week when Ukraine recived it - they for the first time in the world managed to shoot down russian hypersonic missiles, that considered "invincible" before that.
@@Adam4ik3579 but it is true that Ukraine gets new toys after some significant achievements. In Ukraine there are even memes about amount of killed Russians and “milestones”, like 10k 20k 50k 100k and claimed rewards
Not all "Western" countries waited for months for United States to start the effort. It was actually led by Poland, Czechia and the Baltic states. Only the tanks were not western made. But it was the countries of Central and Eastern Europe that waited FOR THE WEST to realize what is going on and get the ball rolling.
They’re also a lot closer to Ukraine than the US. And have a vested interest in keeping Russia as far away from their own people as possible.
None of those nations are great defense powers (Poland just recently got strong) and none of those nations have defense manufacturing of significance. Ukraine needed the West to help them survive. US, UK, GER, FRA etc. Poland gave the highest per capita, but Ukraine would still lose. It has been the West with Ukraine (and that's when they decide to give as little as they have) or nothing and Russia spends 5 to 10 years in Ukraine, but ultimately wins.
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They are all part of NATO, and should be considered firmly a part of the West at this point. But I see your point.
The US started the effort before the invasion even began. There is a reason why Javelins were taking out Russian tanks on day 2. The problem since then has been the fits and starts manner of providing weapons. No we're not going to send them ok now we will ... rinse wash repeat for every weapons system.
History repeats itself, if the bear finally wakes from all your poking, most eastern nations will join them like we did the soviets in Ww2. Except poland, they get fucked no matter what, Germans or Russian, they really hate the poles fore some reason.
There's a difference between wanting Ukraine to win and not wanting Ukraine to lose.
Yes, we know what true American intervention looks like: Gulf War 1991. What we're seeing here is 'Lets screw Russia'
The question of, “Does the West really want Ukraine to Win?” The majority of people in U.S. in particular, don’t care. We want politicians to stop spending out money on a war between two authoritarian states. This war was entirely avoidable, NATO admitted that they provoked Russia, and they even boasted about it. The only people gaining from this war are the military manufacturers, and the politicians whom they pay to keep voting for more spending of taxpayer money. Money that just goes right back to the military industrial complex. Both sides take money from their citizens to fund their war, then they send those same citizens into a war they never wanted. I don’t get how the U.S. still pretends to be the good guys, as we destabilize yet another region of the world, without any attempts at peace talks.
@@TannerDLinkRussia invading in 2014 surely was not the first move of agression by an authoritarian country seeking expansion
@@TannerDLink calling Ukraine an Authoritarian state at minimum is a bad joke my man
@@TannerDLink Well said.
The West really wants Ukraine to win and Russia to lose, but win/lose in a certain way. The West (some of it anyway) wants Russia to make an active decision to pull out of Ukraine rather than be kicked out, which might leave Russia angry enough to make trouble in other ways (escalate perhaps). I’m not sure this thinking has much merit but it is what some think.
Actually, what they want is balkanization, since it allows them to consolidate more power covertly. Western people should be revolting against their corrupt governments, but judging from the comment section, they are more than happy with sending all of Ukraine to the slaughter... A nation sacrificed to cover up the atrocities of Epstein in Crimea...
This kind of thinking has a very real cost in Ukrainian blood.
@@antonbatura8385
Those in the West with the "pull out" preference are probably thinking more about their own blood. Might not work out that way though.
@@antonbatura8385 Sure, and to the west that is a cost they are willing to pay. They remember the 90's when Russia imploded, and how much grief that was securing all from nukes to scientists, so they don't run around the world spreading terrible weapons or information.
Why is Russia a member of the ISS? Because the US payed for everything so to keep Russian rocket scientists at their jobs, and not looking for work in NK, Libya, Iraq, Iran etc.
Nobody wants a repeat, because no body can be sure we will succeed this time too.
@antonbatura8385 despite the rhetoric, the decision makers don't really care about Ukrainian lives, they only think in terms of political goals, if they did, they'd permit airstrikes like in Kosova in the 90s a year ago
The Holland Minister of Defense Kaisa Ollongren described it the best.
"Supporting Ukraine is a cheap way to ensure that Russia does not pose a threat to the NATO Alliance"
The ukrainian people are being used.
Just as everyone is. Welcome to the human race.
Yes, we were used as a cheap human meat shield from Russia. But we are not complaining. Life is overrated after all
@@eoricusaudeles4505 Life is what you make of it - only problem I find is the human race and that issue is that it's full of people.
Don't go around thinking a state has any concern about foreign casualties, unless they affect them.
@@eoricusaudeles4505 Bro, if Ukrainians wanted to join Russia, NATO wouldnt say a word. The only reason NATO is involved is because they saw that Ukraine wants to fight this war. Its true, they have some interests here but I promise you, if Ukraine votes to join Russia tomorrow, the west will be mad but ultimately they wont do anything serious about it.
I do think the old saying, " don't assume malice when you can assume stupidity, " applies to the rate of flow of aid.
The Ukrainian allies don't seem to understand that there's no upside to half-commiting. Either send the right amount of proper aid...or don't.
Don't send tanks designed for combined arms warfare when you dilly-dally about sending aircraft.
Don't sanction oil sales if you cannot get Saudi Arabia on your side.
This is the most underrated comment in here.
Little aid is better than no aid. Poor harvest is better than none.
@ekaterinamitroshina1992 no its not. If we just trickle in the weaponry, it helps Ukraine to hold on but it doesn't help them win. From a utilitarian standpoint, we just throw our resources into a woodchipper, a little at a time.
Send in the equipment, at the right time, and the right amount and Ukraine could win decisively.
Going back to those Abrams, we only sent in enough for one battalion. Is Ukraine going to go toe to toe with Russia successfully with that?
If the USA had authorized the handover of F-16's at the same time, and Ukraine could do some form of combined arms doctrine, what would the effect of that assistance be?
Instead, they get the tanks now and the airplanes...eventually? How do you plan based on that.
@jlopez0941 I would agree with you but that assumes a level of intelligence and forward thinking that I doubt politicians have these days.
😂 like don't send main battle tanks to a country where the average bridge can't hold a semi truck or don't send main battle tanks to a country where 90% of the ground is bottomless bogs or don't send main battle tanks to a country that will need a bridge laying vehicles every 200 yards making tanks rocket magnets because they will be stopped more than they will moving. Ukraine isn't a NATO country and we are under no obligation to help. Understand Biden ran away from Afghanistan, a place where we died and were helping, to run away and fund a country no better than what we are told Russia is, nuke them both!!
Whenever someone asks the question “Does the West really want Ukraine to win?” I always ask what would the west have to gain from Ukraine losing because the west would lose a strategic partner in the region, look weak and unable to protect our allies, Russia would be emboldened to try this sort of stunt again upon regaining their strength, pro putin elements in the west would also be strengthened (think Orban and the like) and all of this is without taking China into account as they are most certainly watching to see if they can potentially get away with an invasion of Taiwan and how they should potentially go about said invasion if it were to happen.
Well I would argue that Ukraine losing stops a break up of Russia which is widely stated would be bad. The hope is for Ukraine to bloody Russia so much that it can no longer act as a military power but still take Ukraine. A pyrrhic victory. That's my opinion anyways.
Ukraine was always a buffer country. Never an ally, lucky for the West a change of government happened in 2014, since then the West has built ukraine up for the war to come, it came probably sooner than we thought, either way ukraine losing makes no difference to the west. Most other countries of importance are in NATO, so they are protected. We are prepared to pay money for Ukrainians to die for the west, just not too fast or slow, just at a speed that bleeds Russia. The west will support ukraine for a while yet, but it'll come down to money, how much are we willing to pay to keep this going, morals don't come into this and never have.
first of all the ruZZians spread this question, [and more] and idiots repeat it../ is just that ''the West'' is not one country... and western leaders are not autocrats [...the screaming majority...] so it's a slow machine when it comes to decisions../ [that's what put-in is calling ''weakness'' ] but even slow as it is, arming a Nation is not an easy, or a fast thing... especially when you're not at war already... but is happening... we all adjust!
@@eblevinda Good luck relying on NATO protection in a hybrid war. What would NATO do against some groups of pro-russian armed separatists in Poland or Baltic states? Bomb the shit out of Bialystok and Vilnius?
usa ia a money hongering country to keep the war for longer their ammunation will be sold cause ukraine will buy them, the ammunations is not going out their in the hands of ukraine soldier for free, the ammunations are being paid by the ukrainian government, likewise if the war end later then usa will be benifittted because usa will be supplying ukraine weapon,
now question is why others are not helping beside usa ?
maybe becasue usa would be saying that they dont want the war to escalate which other country think is right but if they dont escalate the war and end in lesser time period that wont be benificial for the usa. because once again their ammunation wont be needing them.
What i think is other countries need to understand that usa is just a cash grab country and they will go any length to make their economy bigger by any means necessary
Why would anyone want an endless proxy war to end? My astonished confusion comes from people being alive during the last 30-50 years, looking at this and seeing something different than anything else that came before... Honestly the memory holing is strong, and the absolute retardation of "historians" taking a biased view in the immediate and/or re-visioning things in the moment to suit their bias. Crazy!
Thanks
Maybe yes, maybe not. I don't think they care that much. Look what happend to Afeganistan.
stupid comparison, Afghanistan never had their proper government and military and many other institutions
@@kelleychilton2524 - You mean "they could not* care less about Ukraine". And of course you're completely right, I'm not sure most Americans could place Ukraine on the map.
@@mattiabosio3983 - Well, Russia making war in Europe is our problem. lol
The further from the front a country is the less they want Ukraine to win and the more they want to punish Russia as much as possible.
I'm sure the ex-Soviet or ex-Warsaw Pact countries empathize enough to prefer a strong and intact Ukraine but honestly even as close as Germany and France doesn't really care about Ukraine's state after the war and the US certainly just wants the weakest Russia possible, whatever the means.
To be fare, I'm more interested in kicking Putin thoroughly. This ultimately means a Ukrainian victory is the best bet for a thorough thrashing. But, if Ukraine could bleed Putin longer... well... good. Also, I am of the opinion that us not getting involved in Crimea was our attempt at realpolitik. And he said thanks but I'm going for more and so I'm extra inclined to make sure he remembers his blunder. Don't mistake realpolitiking with weakness.
Edit: Also, I want some extra cathartic revenge for his meddling in our 2016 elections. He's got a phenomenally good miss and disinformation campaign apparatus and I only see it getting better going forward. So, to disrupt that we need him to have instability at home. This also insures continued optics showing how weak authoritarians are which can help us and Europe ablate their far right parties.
@@RaveYoda*To be fair 🤦🏼♂️ To be fare = to be food, dinner, you sound ridiculous! Didn’t bother to read the rest of your comment, your credibility is shot when you can’t even proofread the first sentence you write. SMDH.
@@RaveYodawake me up when that happens , if not just another bs from both side zzzzz
I'm not sure if you know but Germany partly is a former Warsaw Pact state.
@@sonogamirinne7172 Yeah keep sleeping it's good for you.
It's just great to see they keep up with this series
not like the war has ended
I know. I saw one of these episodes more than a year ago but didn't realize it was part of a series until last week. So now I've watched nearly all of them lol. Awesome to see what's happening month by month.
@@gussampson5029yup
As beneficial as the west's support has been, in unquestionable that delays and bickering over equipment have delayed Ukrainian maneuvers and hurt them in the long run. Imagine if Ukraine had gotten all the tanks they needed while the Surovikin Line was less built up? Imagine if they had gotten DCPIM munitions when Wagner was sending waves of light infantry through Bakhmut?
You have to imagine it because in the real world, only so much can be shipped and new systems learned in a given amount of time.
Ship heavy tanks, then the Patriots and M777s have to wait until later.
Yes it’s other countries fault that other countries have shit supplies and troops they can’t defend there own borders so it’s other countries problem
Lmao you clearly never been in the military. You can’t just send equipment. It requires training of those equipment, then you have to be careful for we can only support in a defensive front, or it technically can be used as a reason for declaration of war.
@@cattraknoff🙄🤡 Cry and cope harder! Nobody is fooled by your BS…🤦🏼♂️
@@cattraknoffthats a russian Desinformation Kampagne. So first of all think about it. Ukraine has no border with palastine. Every weoppen that would go above like single digets nummers would have to be Transportet trough a ship or railway system trough many countrys.
Why? Why not sell it to bulgaria, romania, slowakia. There will be some small amount of korrupt trading with these countrys.
Ukraine is a aktiv warzone and many people have no jobs thanks to the russians. But anything at scale would be jumped open by the international press
It's not so much that they don't want Ukraine to win; it is being afraid of what will happen if Russia loses.
Oh no.. they want Russia to lose. Slowly. Painfully.
They want to bleed Russia till it buckles from the inside out. LikeAfghanistan.
Like how Russia has done for us in our little non wars. Like... Afghanistan.
Question is what happens now with Isreal going to shit.
I seriously wish Europe would get their crap together. It is literally their backyard. America has to worry about China.
Europe doesn't have to worry about anyone really except Russia.
Oh no.. they want Russia to lose. Slowly. Painfully.
They want to bleed Russia till it buckles from the inside out. LikeAfghanistan.
Like how Russia has done for us in our little non wars. Like... Afghanistan.
Question is what happens now with Isreal going to shit.
I seriously wish Europe would get their crap together. It is literally their backyard. America has to worry about China.
Europe doesn't have to worry about anyone really except Russia.
Oh no.. they want Russia to lose. Slowly. Painfully.
They want to bleed Russia till it buckles from the inside out. LikeAfghanistan.
Like how Russia has done for us in our little non wars. Like... Afghanistan.
Question is what happens now with Isreal going to shit.
I seriously wish Europe would get their crap together. It is literally their backyard. America has to worry about China.
Europe doesn't have to worry about anyone really except Russia.
Proxy wars is a fine art of the greedy, be it Syria, Libya, Afghanistan, Vietnam.. war contracts keep flowing
Worst case scenario for russia, they lose the kherson kharkive and zaporizia oblast.
They will never lose crimea, donbass and luhansk.
So in reality, even if it ends up like this, putin can still claim victory ..
You can see that this video is made for western audience. There is no word anywhere that Poland gave away about 1/3 of its equipment for free!!! Not to mention the 10 billion euros spent on helping refugees
If it wasn't against Russia, I honestly doubt anyone would give half a shit about Ukraine.
Like in Armenia and Azerbaijan.
Depends on what winning means
We need to include the return of all the Ukrainian children in this.
Slava Ukraine
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@@SD-mi2vca Russian state collapse should be the goal of the west
@@SD-mi2vc Please educate me, what is unit 731.
@@michaelillingworth6433search it up. My comment will be deleted if I describe what they did
@@michaelillingworth6433 what about the crimean kids trafficked between 99 and 04? Because that was the cause of the war of 2014 ultimately... But keep ignoring the Epstein and state dept connection, I'm sure those flags are really helping heal the trauma while they sacrifice an entire countrys young generation to sell more munitions.
Subscribed because of this series. Felt weird getting all this high quality content for free lol
How pepole have short memories...
9:10 yes and Poland pledged leopards, even without German consent, together they preasured Germany that cringed and gave in after US joined and pledged Abrams tanks.
So it was Uk and Poland while the rest followed, not the other way arround. Im amazed how quickly pepole can twist facts...
I think this video shows an accurate perspective of how long it's taken the west to supply equipment when it's needed. Being an American, I'm more than a little aghast by how long it's taking us to provide the needed weapons to Ukraine. Having said that, I can only imagine the hand wringing that comes with trying to figure out what technology can be shared with a country with the fear that the technology could end up in enemy hands either willingingly or unwillingly. Many of our weapons also require a long supply chain that's hard to maintain by other countries. Also, we're trying to figure out how to maintain enough inventory in case a second conflict in the world breaks out. Happy to see the F16s going over to Ukraine. What I think we should also do is start building factories in the U.S. to mass produce all different types of loitering munitions (thousands per month) and supply those to Ukraine. We desperately need that level of production in place anyways for other future conflicts.
@@TheRealDrJoey Sure looks that way when you believe the Russian lies that get spread everywhere.
@@TheRealDrJoey NATO precipitating this is a crock of shit. If you were in an Eastern European Country, would you want to join the wealth and Markets available in the EU, or would you want to join a shitty Russian led Bloc, especially when Russia is so large as an individual Nation, it actually needs nothing you produce? And Putin personally has invaded Georgia, South Ossetia, Chechnya and Crimea. Hungary, Slovakia and the Czech Republic all have people alive today who remember Soviet Invasions during uprisings of the 50's and 60's. NATO causing this is a fantasy only even considered in America, because Europe is too close to the Past.
@mjk Good point about the loitering munitions. Another thing to consider is the USA's Exports. The USA's single biggest Exports are Petroleum Products and now LNG, and before this War you barely exported LNG. I've recently been in Europe. Everyone is considering what support might make Putin use a Nuke, so everything supplied to Ukraine has to be considered. But Corporations in America are making huge Profits the longer this War goes on. And while individual consumers hate paying more for 'Gas', your Government gets a percentage of that as a Tax for Road Repair, yes? America's Economy grew at 2.0% 1st quarter this year, and 2.1% last quarter. Make no mistake, high Oil prices are helping some segments of your economy. I honestly do not believe this is why America has not gone all in - But never forget, in times of Flux, there's always someone still winning. And the Boards of Chevron and ExxonMobil have a lot more ability to whisper into Congressional Earholes than a few Ukrainian Refugees do.
It's not THE reason, but it's a reason.
Another thing is - The Invasion of Afghanistan cost America's Federal Budget more than double that of all the Aid given to Ukraine so far, in terms of the percentage of the Budget. And Afghanistan diminished neither Russia or China. For half that cost the USA is crippling Russia for a generation. And China is realising it could not withstand these Sanctions. And so far, NATO hasn't committed a single Soldier. That's got to make a lot of other Countries what the hell happens when you do.
Again, not THE reason, but a reason.
Why should I care about Ukraine ?
@@veylis1212
You shouldn't. Ukraine is just a roadblock in the way of Russia getting at your country. You really should do your own fighting.
One correction i want to make, is that the first Abrahams have now been delivered a few weeks ago at time of the realase of this video.
I wish they had been delivered 6 months ago when they would have made a difference. The Russian minefields and fortifications so mature now that maneuver war is impossible. The onset of the mud season will compound this. I sincerely hope I am wrong.
This channel and perun are THE ABSOLUTE PINNACLE of top tier quality war content
Perun has an AMAZING channel. He knows how to break down the money trail, for sure. He was showing serial numbers of artillery shells we gave Ukraine from Vietnam era. Media was sure we were giving up all our newest and shiniest things.
@@DarkSygil666Oh yeah, thanks for reminding me about that!
Avoiding escalation by delaying all the military help to Ukraine emboldens ruZZia to play for long, thus...escalating even more
Avoiding escalation is all about nukes. If it wasn't for those, Ukraine would have gotten intervening forces to help kick the Russians out from the start.
@@johanmetreus1268 partially agree, but I wasn't talking sending troops. They are not gonna use nukes, to use nukes one needs balls. It is for that reason of not having those they pick up fights with those far below their weight still claiming they "fight NATO".
Countless times have they threatened "if the West/Ukraine does X - its a red line for us", then X happens and nothing. They bluff
@@johanmetreus1268every day there is the chance Putin will push the button. More days, more chances
@@sjonnieplayfull5859 What does he even gain if he pushes the button?
A global catastrophy that the human race will never recover from?
What's the point?
What I want to know, is how you got that water to look so good! 6:45
Everybody talks about oh this proves the Russian army isn’t that strong like they didn’t invade Finland before the second world war to the same result as what’s happening right now, and the only thing that they did was allow them to modernize and reform the Russian army into a force that could take a punch from the Wehrmacht. There’s so many similarities actually, including the Russian military political instability that, as well as a surge in China makes the world look like 1930 more and more every day
3:56 What is a He Mars? I'm pretty sure everyone on the planet calls them Hi Mars?
We, Ukrainians, have the same question unfortunately
Thank you for this analysis, pretty accurate description of situation
The goal of the West is to weaken Russia and maintain America's position as the world's sole super power. A long drawn out war serves this interest well as Russia will burn through its blood, weapons, and treasure for little strategic gain. When Ukraine is destroyed America will allow Russia to rule over its ruins. It will cost too much to rebuild Ukraine. Let Russia bankrupt itself in rebuilding.
The longer the war goes on the weaker Russia gets.... Its in the US' advantage just to give ukraine enough weapons to not collapse
@@Novusod Your argument is self-contradictory nonsense.
Most Nato leaders certainly do NOT want Russia to win a complete victory. That has a lot of consequences that would be really bad for Nato countries, and to some extent the rest of the world.
But from a realpolitik point of view, there is not a lot to be gained for Nato countries from assisting Ukraine in crushing Russia on the battlefield. Not only does that come at an economic cost that is difficult to justify to their own populations, it also comes with a risk of destabilizing the global military landscape.
Realistically, there are no easy ends to this war as long as both the Ukrainian and Russian populations remain willing to continue the fight. Nato will provide enough equipment to make sure Kiev stays Ukrainian, but willingess to provide enough for Ukraine to maintain an advantage is far less certain. If Ukraine fights with the determination that Afghanistan has (against both the USSR and the US), I believe most of your territories will be returned. If the opposite is true, the border may end up being the Dnipr river.
They don’t want Ukraine to win (though defining that may be hard).
But they don’t want Ukraine to lose. Ukraine is a pawn, and this is the reality of geopolitics.
“The strong do what they will, and the weak suffer what they must.”
Heeyy brother! I rarely comment on your channel simply because, i press the like button but also because history is quite fascinating and I truly enjoy your content. All of your "ancient wars" vids should I say because I always find channels on here to be biased when it comes to this current conflict (not even gonna start with the middle east one)
And tbf to see you start questioning the narrative is somewhat reassuring. I'm not totally insane yet 😂🙏
Yeah, you are unbiased, people with others opinions are biased.
@@KingsandGenerals not exactly what I meant, what I mean (I'm not sure why I have to explain this) is that pushing one or the other narrative is biased. I'm not one for debates, just pointing out that questioning what we are being told is something we should all do and im glad you are doing it. Not sure why you feel this way brother. I wasn't attacking you or anyone else.
Edit: I will refrain from commenting again. Hope y'all have a good day.
@Sle3pyNinj4 its always good to voice your opinion.
@@HFFCANADA its getting hard to voice anything without vexxing anyone :/ anyways i appreciate you my friend 🤜🤛
You forgot to mention that A LOT of people in America DO NOT want to give Ukraine aid, thus making it politically unwise to go all out.
You should do a video talking about how the donations of weapons to Ukraine from the United States have stimulated the US’s weapons industry dramatically; like when Ukraine received HIMARS, and after the world saw how effective they were, Poland alone ordered 500 HIMARS for their own army. Basically, Ukraine is the ultimate weapons advertisement show, as live combat is showing the quality of US weapons and therefore generating huge revenue for the US. Not to mention that the US is, by proxy of Ukraine, dismembering the Russian military at no human life cost to themselves; Aka an excellent deal for the US.
This is important, since the U.S. is the most important ally to Ukraine and with the slow increase in support for ending Ukraine support, the Americans really need to see why it’s in their own interest to keep up support.
i agree and whan to add that ukaraine is on the fore front of drone warfare. leaps ahead of america american can learn from that.
Yes and all those profits go to the rich and in no way shape or form help us or the world to make it any better. We're getting a great price for killing humans yes you're right about that.
Are you seriously supporting the military industriL complex? I can't believe you consider it a good thing to sacrifice an entire countrys young generation just so some americans have more blood money. And then they wonder why the west is hated and white people are seen as brutes in powdered wigs... Could you all stop destroying countries for once?
@@adamcuneo7189 I would say this alone encapsulates what the main issue with U.S. involvement in the Ukraine war is; A priority problem.
What do the American *people* have to gain from (best case scenario) Russia meeting Ukraine at their "cede no land" policy criteria? There's only so much we can do for another country's people (even if they were HISTORICAL allies, unlike Ukraine) while costing our own people their purchasing power and the ability to pay for fuel, utilities, food, or a home, much more the struggles of our more impoverished side of the socioeconomic spectrum. Keep our hands out of Ukraine and keep our hands from going further into the Israel-Palestine pot. Right now is the time for a temporary national focus at the very least.
@@adamcuneo7189- Keep in mind a lot of the material we have sent Ukraine was scheduled for decommissioning/ disposal. When I was active duty in 1980s, use to be tasked with taking production lots of artillery shells from 1950-70s and expended them at the range to verify viability. The first lots of ammunition and anti amour rockets we sent Ukraine were probably stocks that we the tax payers had bought and stored years ago and were due to be disposed of in the upcoming years. M113 armored personnel carriers were obsolete, the tracked HIMARS launchers were also on the way out of inventory. Keep in mind that for every Russian tank Ukraine destroys, that one less tank the US Army has to build. At the rate Russia is loosing military aircraft, the USAF may not need as many combat aircraft. Not to mention, US military contractors are getting additional orders from other countries which keeps production lines going and allows US taxpayers to save by lowering overall equipment costs. Doubt the total cost of aid to Ukraine has exceeded the cost of a few new USN destroyers which pencil out at $1.2bn.
PS - Agree that USA is spending too much but Ukraine is cheap insurance
Very good question. If only the US had sent Ukraine fighters jets, as quickly as it has sent them to Israel, due to the Hamas terrorist attack this past week.
Well now at least we know that the us likes Israeli jews over the jew (Zelensky) in Ukraine
Israel is very different because…
1.Israel already has modern fighter jets.
2. Has been an rather strong ally of the United States for the past 50ish years.
3. Is not fighting a nuclear power. In fact, Israel is fighting an enemy (Hamas) that doesn’t have the capability to have air defenses or good relations with the other country it borders- that being Egypt.
@@graceneilitz7661 actually the israel-palestine war, has more chances of fucking up the global peace than the ukranian war.
One of my favorite channels
9:38 - King Théoden of Rohan sympathises with this statement
If West did not want Ukraine to win? Best thing would be to do nothing! Doing nothing costs West 0 dollars and requires for them to not lift a finger!
But instead West took millions and millions of Ukrainian refugees (my family also houses and gives work to one family and their friends) and sent billions on top of billions of dollars of aid in humanitarian and lethal aid to Ukraine, many Western volunteers also went to help in humanitarian and military efforts, West also trains tens of thousands of Ukrainian soldiers (I saw a team of them being trained to operate Leopards in my brigade during my service), made Russia the most sanctioned country on the planet and provides intelligence for Ukraine! These are the things I know about! Who knows what other forms of aid are provided!
Everything short of full military intervention have been provided for Ukraine! It shows in results too!
Russias "military operation" narrative is crushed in all but Putins fantasy world! Russia lost its claims near Kyiv, lost claims near Kharkiv, lost Kherson and claims North of it and are now slowly but surely losing the defense line they prepared a year preparing in the Southern part of occupied zones!
Russia is begging countries like North Korea, Iran and China for aid in stuff as basic as artillery shells! One would think Russia would prepare a massive stockpile of those if the plan was for an extended war! Ukraine did not have the luxury of preparing for this war! Ukraine was a poor country with not enough money to prepare for a large conventional war!
Russia has been running the war largely with pre-war stocks! They have not yet had to start crafting and paying for everything from small arms ammunition to Jets!
The war has been following this trend of Russian strenght slowly diminishing and their claims in Ukraine being taken away despite their best efforts to resist! Meanwhile Ukraine has only grown in strenght!
I do not see how Ukraine could lose the war at this point!
The fighting is on a way smaller frontline, Russian professional army got mauled before Ukraine even had modern tanks or HIMARS, initiative is firmly in Ukraines grasp and they are advancing daily!
Something extremely dramatic would have to happen if Russia would ever even be able to reverse the tide of this war!
@@Avinashm7 How could they not win?
Ukrainian army is stronger at this point! We have seen the effects of that in Kharkiv and Kherson!
Wagner was the only one able to fight them but now Wagner is gone
yes, Ukraine will not lost war already, thats 100%, but neither won it.... if we not gain control of our part of Black Sea, our economy is fucked in future.. and many more
Sending 8-16 Himars, or 14 tanks for 1000km active frontline and more than 2000km other front lines with hostile neighbors do you think is enough?
Yes, we are thankful for every help, but how would you feel when your house in on fire and you know that your neighbor have fire hydrant but giving you only couple buckets of water to contain this fire from destroying your house?
Thats basically how I feel about western help
Sanctions:
Kyrgyzstan receiving imports from Germany Grew x3 from 2021 level, I wander why and export to Russia Grew x3, interesting, right? (thats only one example how those sanctions work) and do you think Germany doesn't know about it? :)
@@yuriyseliuk4120 Its hard to say how the war will end because its war and unpredictable! Anything could happen! But if this current trend continues like it most likely will if not tipping to being more favorable for Ukraine? Ukraine will 100% survive and will 100% WIN! Win as in FORCE Russians out of the country or force them to die!
Ukraine already has access to Black Sea through Odesa and is making daily progress towards Sea of Azov! If that advance continues? They will eventually reach the shore and cut off any railway to the Southern part of the front!
Russia already stopped using commercial ships to supply the Southern part of occupied zones due to one of them being struck by drone boats and put out of service! Kerch bridge is damaged as we speak by missiles and drone boats including the railway on it and will likely be damaged further in the future!
Only reliable way to supply the South aka. Any claims of Russia that have shoreline with Black Sea? Is through railways going through the region that Ukraine is constantly advancing in with the specific goal in mind to cut those railways!
Sending 8-16 HIMARS had enough effect to make Russians stop concentrating ammunition stockpiles after dozens of them got blown up which makes it harder to supply big artillery concentrations! Might be thats part of the reason that Russians use 1/4th of the artillery they used to use in first year of the war, made Russians move their airforce back after multiple airfields got hit and many planes got destroyed on the ground and destroyed many Russian command posts forcing them to be moved further back! Even that does not seem to be enough now that Ukraine has Storm shadow missiles! Recently a command post in Sevastopol got hit resulting in death or wounding of 30 Russian commanders! Even if Russian Admiral survived? Thats still 30 commanders killed or wounded! Russians are not safe anywhere in the occupied zones!
West has provided way more than 14 tanks at this point! Maybe 14 of the most modern and most famous have been provided like Leopards, Challengers or M1 Abrams! But hundreds on top of hundreds of tanks that Ukraine knows how to operate without training from the West has been provided! America and Britain toured countries that had old Soviet tanks and purchased them to send to Ukraine! They went to Africa, Middle East, Balkans and likely many others to buy their Soviet stocks so they could help Ukraine to get weapons they knew how to use!
Its only recently when Ukrainians have been trained to use Western tanks that Western tanks are starting to be provided!
While that number is not enough? Ukraine is receiving more and more and more all the time! Thats the miracle of being supported by more than 45 countries including top countries like US, Germany, Britain, France, Poland and many others!
I would feel awful if my house is on fire and my neighbor has a hydrant but gives just a couple buckets! But right now those couple buckets are what is not only containing the fire but slowly extinguishing it! Those couple buckets are what Ukraine itself has asked for and what they have used to so far not only survive but turn the tide of the fight!
More could always be sent but you gotta understand that Ukraine is not in NATO! Ukraine is not in EU! All of this aid is being given to a country that others have no obligation to help! How would you feel if you are asked out of nowhere to give alot of your stuff to a country that you got no pre-existing deals to help? All of this aid is being given largely based on what Ukraine has asked for! And so far? It has been extremely effective!
Sanctions to Russia are focused on harming its war industry and economy by preventing them access to items such as microchips used to craft weapons such as missiles and military grade computers!
In November 21st 2022 a single US dollar was worth 59 Russian Rubles!
Just recently in beginning if October 2023? Russian ruble broke the 100 mark!
One US dollar is now worth over 100 rubles and the trend has continued constantly with little change since 2022!
Exports to Russia might grow! But it will difficult for them to have a long term war if they are not able to design new weapons in large enough scale to defeat the weapons provided to Ukraine by most of the worlds leading military powers! Especially if their currency is constantly losing value!
No sanction is gonna topple a country! Just look at North Korea!
But what sanctions do is take certain options from the table from a country!
Say Russia not being able to wage a war that costs them by some estimates 1 billion US dollars every day! Imagine that in rubles!
Not being able to uphold a military large enough to defeat or even resist a country supported by half the damn globe while manufacturing weapons of its own after pre-war stocks uninevitably run out!
Russia is a massive country with a massive army! That will have its effects! Survival of Ukraine from the first year of war is a miracle in itself!
That was back when the sheer scale of foreign aid had least effect because it did not yet get to speed!
Now that aid is in motion, West is focused on the situation and Ukraine is armed to the teeth!
There is no realistic way in which Russia is able to sustain fighting this violent and expensive while large part of their war chest was captured and frozen in first day of the war in foreign banks, large part of the professional army they had was destroyed and pushed back without any realistic advantages for long term war being gained and now large part of the pre-war equipment either having been destroyed, used or captured by Ukraine!
The longer this war goes on? More blood Russia will have to bleed! More money they have to expend in increasing amounts due to inflation and more stronger Ukraine gets!
I have paid attention to this war since the first day and it has been continuous trend of Ukraine getting stronger and smarter while Russia gets weaker in comparison and seems to not learn from their mistakes!
War will not end soon purely because of the fact that Russia had a large army with deep pockets when it comes to equipment! But it will only get more painful to them from this point!
There is two ways Russia would not lose!
Either Ukrainian resolve breaks? Or then Russia uses nukes!
First seems impossible since a Gallup done in October 2022 says that over 91% of Ukrainians want to fight until all occupied territories including Crimea are reclaimed and Russia is DEFEATED! 26% say they want Ukraine to take back its land including Crimea and then negotiate with Russia!
Less than 10% seems interested in any ending that seems to favor Russia!
This can change of course but so far Ukrainians are putting up a fight that is pushing the Russians back daily!
As far as Ukrainians economy goes? Its fucked! Absolutely! But its best to be fucked economically rather than physically by an occupier! Ukraine will be rebuilt in any case! Most likely with massive amounts of funding from around the world!
This war is without a doubt the most broadcasted and most one sided when it comes to narrative!
Even Russias allys are hesitant to take Russias side because of how bastardly the Russians have conducted themselves! Especially after mass graves and proof of mistreatment of civilians and POWs have been discovered and videos of those events have been recorded by Russian soldiers themselves!
Russia is the number 1 enemy in the world right now! Hence why they are the most sanctioned and why so many are supporting Ukraine
@@yuriyseliuk4120
1. Countries look out for their own interests.
2.Ukraine is not receiving help out of kindness.
3.Suing some Eastern European countries over grain is a bad idea if you want their support.
4. The rhetoric of some Ukrainian officials is infuriating. It’s like they expect an obligation or something.
Ukraine really embodies what we mean with the sayings "don't look a gift horse in the mouth" and "Beggars can't be choosers".
The Uks aren't entirely bums in this situation, they give something 🔙
Ukrainians were very peaceful people before 2022. We believed if we wouldn't threaten anyone, no one would threaten us. Even after 2014 most of the society couldn't believe Putin would start the war (including me). Indeed, why would anyone want to start the war?
In 1994 we gave up the third in the world nuclear arsenal in exchange of vague promises of help and support. Again, we were pacifists. Almost no one could believe our "brothers" would want to attack us. The few "believers" were considered freaks. Several years later Russia has bought up many our weapons as energy debts repayments. Some of the missiles we are currently bombarded with were in fact sold to Russia by Ukraine.
In addition to this, after 2014 there were mysterious fires in the ammunition depots in Ukraine...
Next, according to the Minsk Treaty we were not allowed to buy weapons, while Russia was buying high tech weapons components in western countries (like tank sights from France) through corruption schemes.
And still most of us remained pacifists. One of the reasons Zelensky was elected was his promise to end the war in Donbass (created and sponsored by Russia) by coming to an agreement with Putin. It turned out that the terms of the agreement were to give autonomy to the Donbass region and in this way to give them legal rights to influence all Ukrainian political decisions. That was unacceptable, so the war started.
Yes, now we are beggars and our pacifistic illusions cost us dearly.
P.S. Buying up our weapons is not the only way Russia was preparing for the attack. The other ways include propaganda, bribing and recruiting of politicians, officials and defence plants directors (Motor Sich Plant), bloggers and mass media. "Svoboda" political party considered as radical nationalists was sponsored by Russia. It's goal was "rocking the boat" of the Ukrainian society. However , it didn't have much support and after rising the entry barrier in 2014 didn't enter the parliament.
That was almost a miracle we were able to withstand the attack in the first months of the war. As someone said "There should be movies about our resistance. People cut down trees to block roads, set tank columns on fire, chased runaway occupants in forests. Young guys, men, grandpas..."
Its unfair to call them beggars. We have to worry about where the money comes from the ukranians have to worry avout the continuation of their country.
@@jonesjack6088 Thank you kindly.
@@jonesjack6088They are beggars.
The definition of a beggar is someone/something that asks for something without giving anything in return.
Actually, the answer to this question is easier than it seems: the Russian military budget for the year 2024 is about $110 billion USD. Are Ukraine's Western allies willing to pledge at least an equivalent amount in support? So far, it doesn't look like it.
Please stop covering politics. We subbed for a history channel
Excellent video and analysis, thanks
"Less than half of what he hoped for" okay I see you there
An obvious reason (that is far too often, and perhaps systematically overlooked) for Ukraines allies to want to draw out this, and actually most conflicts, is that it is good for the shareholders.
Maybe this is just me, but I would prefer if you didn’t do any more videos on current events!
Thanks a bunch for this point of view.
15:22 "Any instability in Russia carries a threat of nuclear weapons going loose"
- No, the OPPOSITE happened in the USSR breakup. The countries which left the USSR didn't want to be nuclear. The US made sure the weapons were given to the ONLY dangerous one. The one that said to President Clinton "Just give Europe to Russia" WHILE DEMANDING THE WEAPONS! "P562 Declassified Documents Concerning Russian President Boris Yeltsin · Clinton Digital Library"
It all reminds me of a saying about WWIII. Basically, NATO and the Soviet Union were going to fight that war to the last German.
@@kelleychilton2524 of course you speak BS, Boris!
Except that NATO did not exist during WWII. Nice try Ivan
@@sjonnieplayfull5859He said WW3, learn to read and think before commenting NAFObot
They do, but the EU lacks courage, it's also compromised by Turkey and Hungary. I think the question is, does the EU have the will and the commitment to win, they've dropped the ball badly so far. I'm Australian and without the US, who probably shouldn't need to get so involved, Ukraine would have fallen already.
And guess what? 80 years of US presence in Europe and EU's dependence on it, is the reason EU lacks courage. We should've kicked the subversive non-European state out of Europe the moment the Soviet threat ceased to exist. Without the US, I very much doubt Russia would've ever even felt the need to invade Ukraine.
The EU is soft.
They were meant to be an economic alliance.
Not a military one.
Indeed, what's the point of have 10k tanks if you won't send even 1% of them to an ally fighting Russia. What are they saving them for?
“Small amount of equipment pledged” lol literally 10’s of billions of dollars
only if the valuation is taken as it's original cost, rather than its current depreciated value. Many of the materiel sent was destined for the scrap heap anyway, so the cost is negligible
16:35 cringed from seeing the cherry-picked quotes of that scammer (my opinion on that man). Arestovich is such a joke…
Great video covering the topic and the real issues involved! Too many take a simplistic analysis rather than actually addressing the issues. The primary question is what does victory look like in this war?
For Ukraine, the answer is a total victory over Russia, retaking all their territories.
For the West, the answer is undefined. Biden for example has given nebulous statements for what is a victory.
If we consider the situation at the beginning of the war, the fact that Ukraine survived as a state and has pushed Russia back to the eastern part of the country would be considered as a massive victory.
If we consider the current status quo and consider Ukraine to be a military and economic equal to Russia, then victory look more like kicking Russia out completely.
The Ukrainian offensive has shown that for a total territorial victory is unlikely in the short term. Either the West will have to significantly increase aid to Ukraine for the long term, negotiate a long term settlement, or negotiate a ceasefire, turning it into a frozen conflict.
There is a real risk of escalation in this conflict, even if you think it’s a small risk it’s one the West has to navigate.
The last big issue is the US needs to pivot to deterring war between China and Taiwan.
If US stops being committed to helping stop war in Europe it can forgot about Europe participating in an armed conflict between the US and China over Taiwan
The surprised from all the us weapons, training and equipment from 2014 til now is gone, from Russia's full retreat to 1/4 of the country's land taken and fortified it is now a ucran meat grinder, seeing now all the new Russian drone footage kamikaze bombing tired and unresponsive german sol... I mean ucrainain soldiers, really showcase the massive failed offensive to win back a surrounded town.
There is no victory for ucran, can't wait for them to pay back all the bills and that joo to run back to Israel with a shittruck of money.
China is dependant on importing it's energy and food. Over 80% is via shipping that goes past Western ally nations. The West including the Philippines, Japan, Australia, the US can shut down imports into China and grind it to a halt and send it back a decade without firing a drone. I expect that this would lead to Chinese retaliation which would cause insurance for shipping goods to become so expensive few ships would sail to China even without the blockade. Taiwan is harder to invade than the UK. No nation other than the US is capable of invading the UK so the idea that Taiwan is incredibly vulnerable isn't true if we are willing to commit to its defence and to blockading ships inbound to China. We don't need to pivot to Asia. China is collapsing and it's population is set to halve this century and it's economy is dealing with massive debt and citizens who don't trust their government.
Not sure why the US will not give Ukraine the M1128 Mobile Gun System. That is basically a Stryker with a turret that has a 105mm gun. The US Army has turned them all in and they will be replaced with the new M10 light tank.
The US Army had 142 of the M1128 which have , I assume been put into storage. The US military will never use these mobile gun systems - so I do not see why they can’t be given to Ukraine - the storing of these items just costs the US money. These are not a tank replacement but they are good at attacking bunkers which is just what they have to do to retake the parts of Ukraine that Russia is occupying.
Do not make the same mistake of overestimating leadership that we did for putin.
just like many people thought putin was this brilliant mastermind who always had a deeper plan and every apparent defeat was part of a calculated gamble, no, he's a megalomaniac old dude who thought nobody would dare stand up to the russian army.
in the same way, our leaders are unlikely to be brilliant geniuses that could get ukraine to win, but choose not to because of some cold calculus. no, they got in charge through a popularity contest where the winner is the one who can pin more screw-ups on his rivals than his rivals can pin on him. they want to keep their advantage in this popularity contest by appeasing different sides of the electorate. many of them are out of their depths and afraid. many simply have no balls, no spine; having a spine push you to take risks, if you risk you will screw up sometimes, and it will be used by your opponents against you. if you risked three times, and twice it paid off, and once it went poorly, it may be good for the country, but for your popularity it will be a net loss.
our leaders don't have a grand master plan to bleed russia as much as possible by fine-tuning the help to ukraie to just enough that russia can keep fighting if it makes more sacrifices. no, they are acommittee of scared, confused men who are trying to minimize their potential losses.
We should never have got involved. I don't know what it is about the UK, some kind of determination to be relevant since the collapse of the Empire, but it seems like there's not a conflict going in which we don't have to prance about onstage internationally flinging money and resources we don't possess about. And it wouldn't be so bad if we weren't bankrupting ourselves paying back debt interest, everything crumbling, nothing working, etc.
the US hasn't directly aided a belligerent against russia since Afghanistan and then it was just stinger missiles and little more so as to mitigate directly antagonizing a nuclear rival. what aid has been given by the US is frankly astonishing in speed and generosity relative to history. viewing the aid relative to Ukraine's stated needs is the wrong way to view this and sets an expectation that is unrealistic when considered next to past instances of US direct military aid to foreign countries, short of "lend-lease" that is, and the current conflict is not on the scale of ww2 presently.
the US has never stated it would provide an entire military for ukraine, it's foolish to expect it, and its foolish for the US citizenry to allow it. for its not on America's doorstep Russia lands on if Ukraine falls. ergo the European nations that barely or not at all met their UN military contribution percentages have to show some personal fortitude and make a decision to ensure Ukraine repels russia or let their borders be the next to be infringed upon. distaste for conflict does not absolve the possibility of conflict coming to you.
this is not a case of "passing the buck" as it is reasonably dubious as to the "buck" being the responsibility of the US to begin with.
frankly; the russian incursion into ukraine is the fault of russian backwardsness and almost equally the fault of Russia's western neighbors to form a better diplomatic relationship with russia after the fall of the USSR. this was foolish on a monumental level.
The Russian incursion is the fault of US mindlessly pushing for more NATO expansion regardless of the Russian threats and regardless of the consequences. If we had kicked NATO out and built a European alternative that truly drove the collective European interests, I very much doubt any of this would've happened. It was the US that saw cooperating Europe as a threat to their own great power influence over Europe.
To Ukraine: with respect, "never look a gift horse in the mouth."
To anyone casually watching from the west: with respect, it's not a gift. Ukrainians pay with their lives to stop Russian expansion and limit Russian influence
Intriguing.
Who in the west is criticizing the west for not doing more?
Dylan Burns
3:16 That is my favorite clip that isn't a farmer driving off with a piece of Russian equipment.
I think the main problem is, that without a massive reduction of Russia's military arsenal a possible end of their colonial empire will lead to a very dangerous situation there.
Especially because of the large nuclear arsenal, which may be used to gain territory from the follow-up nations.
They already lost their empire when regions the size of EU declared their independence, and Warsaw pact ceased to exist. Now the only one creating an empire is the US, with their proxies all over the world, including Europe.
@@goldbullet50
You may have seen under the last US adminstration that Europe isn't an US proxy at all.
Only the renewed fascist threat in Europe has revived the "braindead" NATO.
Todays Imperium of Russia maybe split.
That's actually a dangerous development, for the reasons mentioned above.
Europe isn't as united in it's goals as you do describe in addition, and decision making is slow.
At least all 53 member nations of the European Council have made clear that Munich' 38 won't be repeated.
An important step.
@@goldbullet50 by having military bases to station 100-1000 troops in random countries across the world for.. little to no reason sometimes, is definetly not how empires were forged.
Trust me, the era of empires is long gone.
Empires used to manage thanks to their ability to do mini-genocides , the inability of others to learn about it and the lack of humanity from the world to care about it even if they knew.
Revolts were happening in empires all the time, but they were getting BRUTALLY crushed.
In a way that if it is done today, the world is gonna be mad at you.
Look at israel for example.
A little strip of land by terrorists, and they can't shake them off becouse they hide behind civilians.
Back in the true era of empires, this wouldn't matter... they would butcher them all.
And by butcher them, i don't mean 5-10k dead in a 2m population.
i mean 90% of the population.. POOF gone.
@@goldbullet50 they have as big an empire as they are able to, with Belarussia as a thrall state. They've also invaded Georgia, and now this latest effort in Ukraine seeks to put them under the russian boot. Putin is attempting (albeit incompetently and barbarically) to recreate a dead empire
@@stonem0013 Are they though? Is there any actual evidence of any empire rebuilding operation? Can't countries have a war with their neighbors WITHOUT trying to build an empire?
Sometimes i do ask myself the same. Does europe really want ukraine to win?
Im hopefull it does. But the dark thought crosses my mind regularly these days. Could it be that nato just want ukraine to keep up the fight at the lowest cost possible to bleed out the russians long term?
Just giving them enought to not break, but also not win.
Making the war just bloodier. Trading ukrainian citizens willingly for russians.
great video as always
ukraine produces so much grain for the world. purely based on that fact i think the west would rather ukraine stay its own nation and not under russian control. russia already controls large oil and gas reserves so imagine the power they'd have with all that grain
ATACMS' range 150km were supplied. F-16's are beening prepared.
I remember when this used to be a history channel
Well, it's not about future conflicts, right? History is being made while we watch
It still is. The history is just being made as the videos are.
Not to mention all the other series on different topics they still make.
Cap, this channel always talked about wars not just history
There is another major factor regarding the west's support of Ukraine that ties into the focus on China: India. The west is trying to avoid antagonizing India to obtain their help against China, but India is an ally of Russia, so directly aiding a belligerent of Russia must be done carefully.
They are not an ally, but rather partners, and not equals at that. At the moment, India is taking an advantage over Russia in oil prices under sanctions.
Why should others be heavily funding a country not part of Nato ? spending incredible ammounts over a war that has nothing to do with them ? Intervention in lots of other conflicts are mute .. but somehow this one is special ...
Exactly. Considering how it is eerily silent as well on the actions of one of its member, Turkey, in Eastern Europe, Western Asia, and Middle East.
Mute? Like Ann Frank?
American aid to Ukraine is 3.5% of the defense budget and 3/10 of one percent of the total budget
It would finance the government for 27 minutes
This alone has destroyed over 50% of Russia's army and made the world a safer place
Thank you from Odesa 🥰
This might sound like a silly reason but there is the possibility that individual US military branches don't want to give up their equipment or miss training quotes. This conflict has also exposed how behind US arms production is since the cold war
That’s ridiculous; the US military industrial complex is extremely bloated.
@@adamhbrennanI think they meant that our ability to convert to a total war economy is severely diminished as opposed to the days of old. Our manufacturing base isn’t what it used to be.
In WW2 you could take a tractor company and have them start producing state of the art semiautomatic rifles.
Hell, even in the 90’s when one of the gulf wars started, the military had an old artillery barrel turned into a bomb, shipped halfway across the planet, and dropped onto its target in like two weeks.
Our military industrial complex is indeed bloated, but that bloat is exactly why we won’t be efficient.
Good morning. I would like to know your general analysis on what impact Ukraine making weapons with the US will be. It's a recent development, but I think it's important. Thanks.
To people talking about how the west is failing it’s important to keep things in context.
Compare it to WW2, where Hitler was free to rampage until 1939, even then France and Britain did very little to stop Germany even when they had a perfect opportunity to make a difference. It took the US another 2 years to get involved and plenty of nations like Sweden and Turkey stayed neutral to the end.
Compare that to Ukraine, when aid started on day 1. The EU cut off Russian gas within a year and the military aid being sent every month is only getting more advanced.
I know it’s falling short of what a lot of people want but historically speaking, we are improving from our history, not failing
Are they helping? Is this why Germany has increased its purchases of fertilizers from Russia?
Well said sir! What do these fools want, us to abandon our allies, while allowing fool regimes to run wild? Sooner or later those wackos will affect us in some way, it's always easier to fight on the front foot.
@@somebody2344 Germany cut off Russia gas which used to make up 40% of its energy supply. They’ve been sending a lot of aid lately too. More even than the US in some aid packages. United 24 made a post on it
france and britain had a defensive pact with poland explicitly for if germany attacked them@@GothPaoki
Aid to Ukraine, proper one started in day 90 my man :) or you want to count those 2000-3000 manpads as significant help for 2200km of frontline
Make a documentary about the Palestinian-israeli conflict.
The Military Industrial Complex is laughing their way to the bank!
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Give me some of that COPIUM!
Wait….was the AFU Beach Party in Crimea cancelled ?!
No I believe they've had two so far
Not a mention of TB2s from Türkiye, which made a difference on the battlefield
yes, but just in the beginning of the war
As the video mentions, when they needed it the most@@sachavskyi
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They do but basically Western countries tend to be apprehensive about aid to Ukraine,Americans for example modified HIMARS missiles so they wouldn't strike deep into Russian territory.
Just imagine of a western made system would strike a russian nuclear weapons site? Like a nuclear ICBM silo or a radar system vital to russian early warning systems? That's a big no-no.
yes the west is like this one chick you had in highschool, who was a slut but she didn't want to end her relationship and be called a slut.
So instead of fucking with others, she was just sucking everyone's dick but always refused to go further cus "she has a boyfriend".
That's the west right now.
We want to hurt you russia but.. just a little, not all the way.
No, the west want to pin Russia down next to their doorstep just like western geopolitics in supporting Israel to pin down Arab countries and Iranian theocratic regime or with Taiwan and China situation. It's really clever honestly.
I trained with the M60 tank. The U.S should have at least given some of the most advanced M60 tanks. They would have been quite useful. The Kremlin will always threatened and try to manipulate with fear.
IIRC, the US no longer has stocks of Pattons. Present stocks of Pattons are mostly in Turkey in the form of the Sabra. For various reasons involving Greece and Turkey death staring each other, those are simply not up for donation.
The US isn't ready to share that technology with Russia and China.
@@eggtarts286 There's a lot of them still in service in Saudi Arabia, Taiwan, and Egypt (the three largest operators aside from Turkey). The US still uses the chassis in a specialized support role, there are several hundred being used as bridge-launching vehicles (M60 AVLB), though even those are being phased out gradually.
To bounce off of what the others have said, the U.S. doesn't hoard tanks to the degree that Russia does. We have more than enough Abrams. The older models can, relatively easily enough, be upgraded to modern standards as needed.
Great content! This is what I feel too
should never have given them anything
That was my theory from the very first "help package" it's a droplet, not a flow of weapons/ammo,
Excellent coverage overall ... a couple of tweaks...
16:19 Arestovych "30 Kadryovs" - does Arestovych want to keep Putin in power, as this suggests? What is the context of this quote?
16:56 "The legitimacy of Putin’s power relies on stability, decent living standards" - ONLY IN MOSCOW AND ST PETERSBURG - 25% of Russians don't have indoor plumbing, most have only enough money for food and clothes (as you illustrate in the next frame - that is not recent.
18:04 Russia’s influence has intensified politically in may countries, not waned.
And, if Russia is weakened, how is Putin going to stay in power?
It is not the west’s responsibility to support Ukraine. ANY AID that is given is already more than what is owed. It astonishes me that Ukraine is chastising anyone about not giving enough charity.
It's not charity you buffoon: it's in the West's strategic interests for Ukraine to win.
Who is the world policeman wannabe again?
@@saldownik thing is, there will always be a "world policeman" as power vacuum is never left empty for long.
Question is: do you want it to be USA or China?
@@oleksandrshymanskyi1129 Depends on how stingy will those be on their 'charity'.
We keep expecting Russia to react logically and come to terms. That is stupid. Russia will never do that. Russia is already falling apart, we need to support Ukraine and help them WIN, not drag things out because we lack resolve and lack a spine or a coherent strategy. The faster Ukraine wins, the faster we can face China and only China
The answer is No.
Complex topic, and I don't think there's one answer to the title question. But even at the start I noticed a certain kind of narrative from the naturally worked up Ukrainian diplomat in my country that I thought was a bit unfortunate. I won't get into details, but there are narratives that I'm convinced work, and others less so. You might think that childishness can't possibly have any bearing on such a grave concern, but you'd be wrong.
I think Ukraine should repress any hint of being entitled or miffed, even if they have that right in many ways (EG the 94 denuclearization treaty). Better then to help the west come to the realization "by itself" that it has little choice and that Ukraine holding the russians was a gift that is returned simply by it aligning with western interests.
russia (no typo) was already a problem before the invasion. A lot of movers and shakers know these things of course, but alas we're thankfully not living in autocracies. Every decision is bound to be a bumpy road, even the most obvious ones, even on a national level as we all probably know.
But on the new state budget in my country, Ukraine is closing in on the budget size for the entire social sector, so that's not nothing. We wouldn't have budgeted like this if the west was planning on abandoning Ukraine. Slava.
Great video keep it up you're doing amazing things 😁👍
“Hi-Fi” is not pronounced “Hee-Fee”, just as HIMARS is “Hi-Mars” not “Hee-Mars”
This war is an economic boon, except for Russia. America gets to sell old stock at inflated prices on credit that will have to be paid back for tens of decades. All that while funding and budgeting a whole new series of stockpile developments. Other countries like Poland are buying anything America says will work. With all the global economy failing how wouldnt war help?
In a word. Yes. No other outcome is acceptable.
I personaly am not a fan that this channel covers current events because they are to loaded and dividing to have any sense of rational oppinion on it.
Power plants are not civilian targets, if your trains run on electricity.
Ukraine have mostly diesel trains Ivan for those military transportations, electrical maybe for civilians usage transfers between cities (so called electrichka)
Russia's primary objective is to secure Crimea by controlling the eastern bank of the zaporizhzhia river and control the banks of the sea of Azov securing their only warm water port.
Anything more than that is simply icing on the cake and additional bargaining
That's not true, what was the whole battle of Kyiv and Kharkiv for then a distraction? Kyiv and Kharkiv are no where near the sea but Russia tried to take it anyway. And if it was a distraction what was a poorly planned one that caused the death of tens of thousands of troops and material.
@@Blub_525Yep thousands of some of the best trained and elite soldiers too. Russia is doing a big brained move wasting away their elite VDV Paratroopers. You have to laugh at all these pro Gremlin supporters.
The Russian is already pulling their navy out of Crimea. Clearly, it's value is overstated.
Your argument can be continued endlessly:
War 1 - Russia simply wants to get strategic Crimea.
War 2 - Russia simply wants a land corridor to Crimea.
War 3 - Russia simply wants to protect the land corridor to Crimea by protecting it with a buffer territory.
War 4 - Russia simply wants to bring the border to the eastern bank of the Dnieper.
War 5 - Russia simply wants to secure the space between NATO and its border.
Russia had Crimea in its hands and nothing threatened it.
@@Blub_525 again, Russia will push as far west as possible up to and including complete control of Ukraine. But as mentioned above any gains beyond the primary objectives I've outlined are simply bargaining tools meant to be used to codify the primary gains.
Before the invasion there was nothing special about Ukraine or Zelensky, not an expert but I believe the country was looked upon unfavorably because of rather hefty amount of ethnic based nationalism and the integration of former neo-Nazi groups into its military. Ukraine's current popularity could be looked upon as enemy of our enemy is a friend of convenience. Russia is worse so Ukraine is considered positive only in relation to Putin's Russia. With that in mind one can imagine that just enough aid being sent to bleed Russia dry.
In addition one cannot give Ukraine enough aid to outright win. Russia needs to be bled badly enough that Putin is removed internally and Russia decides to end the war. One does not push a nuclear power into a corner.
Im for continuing support for Ukraine. I understand its criticism however of western countries concerned about their own stockpiles and amount of money it is costing. But if Russia is to conquer Ukraine or at least part of it it's basically guaranteed that Russia will continue its agreesion towards its neighbors either way. This is the west's chance to significantly weaken a geopolitical rivial while insuring new allies at the same time.
Russia clearly only wants a small portion of Ukrain to have port access. They have it. Any means of prolonging the war from the Ukrainians is futile and only brings more death to their people; I dont know why you'd want that for Ukraine. Ukraine should surrender and make a deal to keep what land and sovereignty they have left. There's no evidece to prove that Putin in Russia wants any more land grab than he already has and it honestly doesn't make sence for him to want that.
I don't care. I'm tired of my country pouring billions upon billions of dollars into some eastern European country that has no previous relationship to my country apart from sending gold digging mail order brides.
You forget to question: why is RU invading Ukraine? and why would they want to agress neighbouring NATO-countries?
@@ulrichleukam1068 Because top brass of Russian Federation want their Russian Empire back, with all territories included. Because Putin toting himself as another "great leader" aka conqueror of everything. It is all over russian propaganda.
What neighbours? the next countrys are in NATO and their no crossing that line, otherwise Ukraine wouldn't want to be in NATO so much.
where are the series on ancient and 19th century warfare, no one wants to see this, this is on the news as well.